=== MistaMike|away is now known as MistaMike === MistaMike is now known as MistaMike|away === bazhang_ is now known as bazhang [03:42] Has anyone gotten a chance to test Mir? How stable is it? [03:44] looking for help for 13.04... I regretfully upgraded and now I cannot start firefox [03:44] hey, i installed 13.04 on my virtualbox on ubuntu 12.04. it installed fine and then when i reboot, the login screen shows up. then theres a black screen and it says 13.04 has encoundtered a problem [03:45] this should be almost bugless considering its being released in a few weeks [03:45] a week* [03:45] it's horrible [03:46] I cannot start firefox... muon comes up with crash messages [03:46] I am using kubuntu, though [03:46] I went to #kubuntu but bots sent me here [03:46] kdef, try reinstalling [03:47] :-( [03:47] It is recommended that you do a clean install as opposed to doing an upgrade, as it leads to dependency issues. [03:47] I customized everything and now gotta re-install? [03:47] no reinstall firefix [03:47] why have upgrades at all then? [03:48] so every time there is a new edition, you have to re-install? [03:49] mathor, I hear ya though... that's what I've usually done but tired of it... it's absurd :( [03:49] you all are not critically reasoning. ;) [03:49] vwade, I'm afraid its' a bug... I already found my bug is a kde bug... for muon and many others reporting same problem [03:50] so remove kde? [03:50] also, chrome tabs at the bottom become corrupted... cannot read text on the tab [03:51] lol why so many bugs when this is released in a week [03:51] theres some serious work to be done [03:51] i cant even boot [03:51] really? [03:51] login* [03:51] at least something shows up [03:51] and you're trying an upgrade of ubuntu 13.04? [03:51] no [03:52] virtualbox [03:52] fresh [03:52] the login shows up [03:52] then i enter pass and press enter [03:52] oh well [03:52] then black screen [03:52] and ubuntu crashes [03:52] I don't think it's a good test on virtualbox really [03:52] too many variables [03:52] virtualbox rarely boots stable stuff for me correctly [03:53] you have the right extension pack? I think it's difficult to assess what's wrong [03:53] aww [03:53] now i need to live boot [03:53] o well [03:53] it was worth a shot [03:53] thanks [03:53] guys [03:53] I don't think I helped.. no need to help me ;) [03:54] i mean, to thank me [03:54] lol [03:54] cannot type ;) [03:54] did u try removing kde? [03:54] no [03:54] idk what it is, a quick google told me its a addon gui [03:54] i didn't [03:54] try it [03:54] it's the DE [03:55] wahts that lol sorry im a noob [03:55] only been using ubuntu for 2 days [03:56] desktop environment [03:57] like unity is the DE for ubuntu [04:03] o [04:03] ok [05:38] im having trouble backing up using ubuntu one [05:38] getting a bad request error === _Bauer is now known as Bauer1 === nyuszika7h_ is now known as nyuszika7h [07:55] Good morning [09:04] glitch: unable to set colours as desktop background [09:35] hi all, I'm trying to install amd drivers on ubuntu 13.04, using "The Fan Club", but I have an error when it tries to create the deb file after the download, it says: Failed to build Ubuntu Deb installation package The application will now close what can I do? [09:38] with beta drivers seems to work === quem_ is now known as quem [11:16] Hey all === cjohnston_ is now known as cjohnston [13:40] woot one more week === knitt1 is now known as knittl === hggdh_ is now known as hggdh [14:19] i made the mistake of installing evolution and uninstalling it. it left something call evolution-alarm-notify on my system. how do i get rid of this error? [14:58] no audio after some updates the other day, using HDMI (driver nvidia-313-updates). known issue? [14:58] in sound settings it's not even listed as it was before [15:05] problem went away after installing v3.8.7-raring kernel from http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ [15:08] hmm, I'm not getting any sound in my browser, not chrome, not firefox. Also not in totem [15:08] anyone an idea? [15:08] VLC works fine [15:08] spotify too [15:10] Ian_Corne, got pulseaudio ? [15:10] err, I guess so [15:10] I didn't do anythign special :p [15:10] it's installed [15:11] Spotify and vlc also work fine side by side [15:11] so it's not the old only one app can use the sound [15:12] the symptoms seem the same as mine, without pulseaudio installed [15:13] I've had it before, but I think it got fixed [15:13] but I'm not sure :p [15:13] Updating right now [15:13] I'll see if it works with that [15:13] my symptoms were , no audio on sites that use flash [15:14] Yes, it's flash [15:14] I don't know anything else that produces sound :p [15:14] but also totem BluesKaj ? [15:14] Ian_Corne: try booting the previoous kernel [15:14] flv files on the pc worked fine , but I had no web audio , all the players worked fine [15:14] I'll try the newer one first, and then an older one [15:25] I screwed things up after updating to 13.04, seems the display driver fglrx doesn't support the ATI graphics card, how to enable open source display driver? [15:27] speedy , alt+f2, type, additional drivers , to bring up any available optional drivers [15:28] BluesKaj, the whole unity is gone, and I get lots of crash reports, I cant event do alt+f2 [15:29] Ian_Corne, check the sound applet [15:30] BluesKaj, gone in the sense of cannot work, there is no top bar, and there are no icons on the left side [15:30] Aha [15:30] bjsnider: [15:30] i don't know what point there woulld be to booting a previous kernel if most audio works. the kernel has nothing to do with flash [15:30] selected a different sound thingy [15:30] and it works now [15:30] Thansk [15:30] oh, it was a thingy problem [15:31] :D [15:31] err [15:31] sound output device? [15:31] yeah, i get it [15:32] sometimes i get the impression people don't know they have a sound applet, or know what it's for [15:33] I can access console to issue commands, I remember there was a way to enable the open source display driver [15:36] speedy_, just remove fglrx [15:37] the server will select the next best driver, which is going to be radeon [15:37] bjsnider, trying that now, thanks! [15:39] bjsnider: well I checked there [15:39] but didn't change the device [15:39] just checked the application specific sound volumes [15:39] and they were fine [15:40] tweaks in there are going to be frequently necessary, as they haven't worked out all the kinks in pulse at this point in time [15:47] yeah pulse is a pita for me but I need it for web audio , otherwise alsa does the job on local media files ...I've experimented by purging pulse and running my local media and it allworks , just audio on sites that use flash. [15:47] don't [15:48] flash uses alsa, not pulse. browsers use alsa too [15:49] if you look at the applet, it says alsa plug-in when flash is using audio [15:50] Hey [15:50] Why is there no compiz-kde package in 13.04? [15:50] bjsnider, I don't have that applet , kde here. [15:51] rymate1234: Because kwin has it's own compositing [15:51] i think kde has an applet [15:51] Maybe I want to use compiz? [15:51] if it doesn't, it's robbing users of control they need' [15:51] And compiz-kde was in 12.04 [15:52] it has kmix , but there's no indicator telling when alsa-plugin is enabled [15:53] bjsnider, ok do you use pulse ? [15:53] of course [15:54] Good afternoon [15:55] if alsa can work with flash like it used to back around 11.04 then I wouldn't bother with it , but alsa no longer works with flash on websites on my setup [15:55] it needs the pulse link [15:56] or layer [15:58] BluesKaj, http://i.imgur.com/3bIVbJ4.png [15:58] "I wouldn't bother with it" , means pulseaudio [15:58] one of those is talking to pulse directly. the other is talking to alsa [16:06] compiz-kde is not in quantal either [16:07] ah [16:07] ok then [16:07] 2nd problem [16:07] kwin compositing doesn't work [16:07] Failed to activate desktop effects using the given configuration options. Settings will be reverted to their previous values. [16:07] Check your X configuration. You may also consider changing advanced options, especially changing the compositing type. [16:07] that's my error [16:08] sounds like maybe your graphics driver has no compositing abilities [16:08] but Minecraft worsk [16:08] *works [16:08] as does compiz [16:08] and gnome-shell [16:09] I'm running ubuntu 13.04 [16:09] well, of course gnome-shell works, being the superior piece of engineering that it is [16:09] ha [16:12] no but srsly hao fix [16:16] Fuck it, I'll use mutter [16:22] !language | rymate1234 [16:22] rymate1234: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional. [16:23] k [16:35] hi guys. Anyone got an idea on this? When using touchscreen input on 13.04, i lose focus and can't click on anything in the unity desktop. If I set the onscreen keyboard program to "doubleclick," it properly refocuses on the desktop and selects the action (opening, closing something, minimize etc), but only for that one action. [16:38] hi [16:39] I noticed something I haven't before, ability to link your google account and search everything via the unity dash, was this included in 13.04? [16:41] it is entirely possible I installed something that added this feature but never used it or forgot I had [16:44] Hey guys, how you doing? :) [16:44] anyone know? [16:44] Just did a fresh install of 13.04 cause I switched drives and decided just to start over. But, I am having a couple issues [16:45] First, I would just like to let you guys know that I have a good base of linux knowledge as it has been my primary desktop for the past 12 years. I am not trying to gloat, It is just that I know aroundhere a lot of times people try to go towards the lowest common denominator so to speak. [16:46] So anyway, first issue that software-center completely crashes after starting it. [16:46] I have the output from the terminal with a miny strace I believe [16:47] It's not a HUGE issue for me, because I rarely use it. All my applications and such are installed, removed, configured etc via the terminal using dpkg and apt [16:47] But regardless, software-center is on of the key parts of the distro, I would expect it to work. I will pastebin the error in a second [16:48] Here is the detailed error from launching via terminal: http://pastebin.com/eajDx7eD [16:49] It does launch, and you can see the program for a second or two, and then imediate crash. [16:49] So, if someone can help me out, I'd greatly appreciate it. :) [16:50] My second issue is google-chrome, I have never experienced an issue installing the official chrome package in ubuntu or any other distro, even on 13.04. But right now, it will not install using dpkg or even gdebi (which would pull in any needed dependencies to satisfy it) [16:51] When I go to install via dpkg or gdebi, it says the dependcy package libudev0 is not met. I have tried installing the packaqge by hand, but its installable [16:51] not installable* [16:56] servantes, the second issue is Google's not Ubuntu's [16:56] Ok, great [16:57] its still not the issue I really care for [16:57] servantes, the first, I'm not sure on. Are you launching that from the terminal as a regular user? [16:58] Yes, launching from terminal and the applications menu [16:58] Same problem with both, lemme try giving it elevated perms [16:58] servantes, nah, shouldn't need elevated priviledges. I don't have my 13.04 system here to test though [16:59] i know it shouldnt [16:59] but it could produce something else [17:00] Like I said above, I have plenty of exxperience, and I understand ubuntu channels normally tend to gravitate towards the lowest common denominator user, but its not needed in my case :) [17:00] BTW, I am not trying to offend by that [17:00] Just trying to get by the fluff, and down to business [17:01] servantes, I'm assuming launching 'software-center-gtk3' from the terminal has the same results? [17:01] tgm4883, this is funny, software center works with elevated priv (sudo) [17:01] ill try it [17:02] nope, adding the gtk3 gives the same issue. [17:02] so, im guessing its something in my .BLAH in my ~/ [17:02] like a rouge setting [17:03] i would have no idea what though, im gonna try purging the package and reinstalling [17:03] servantes: are you using the GNOME3 PPA? [17:04] yup [17:04] but it was working after updating to 3.8 [17:04] I did check that [17:05] jbicha, did you find someone with a similar issue or something? [17:05] if so, please let me know [17:05] Software Center crashing is a known issue, but we don't know what's wrong yet; I hadn't seen the sudo workaround yet though [17:05] ok so it is known [17:05] thats nice [17:05] yup, sudo launches it fine [17:05] I believe it works if you ppa-purge the gnome3 ppa [17:06] ppa-purge, unfortunately I am not familiar with what exactly that does, being that I am more pure debian centric [17:06] What does that actually do? [17:06] You dont mean remove the ppa entirely, right? [17:06] yes but ppa-purge helps to do it safely [17:06] ick, nah [17:07] you shouldn't use the gnome3 ppas if you don't know how to use ppa-purge but it shouldn't be too difficult to learn how to use it [17:07] Like I said earlier, software-center isnt something I use anyway [17:07] anyway it's bug 1163886 [17:07] bug 1163886 in software-center (Ubuntu) "software-center crashed with signal 5 with the GNOME3 PPA on 13.04" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1163886 [17:07] thanks [17:07] As long as its a known bug, i am fine [17:07] I use dpkg anyway [17:08] And at the moment, if I want a GUI for clicking debs I downloading and install them without terminal, I use gdebi [17:08] Which is hella better than software-center anyway [17:08] Dont get me wrong, software-center is fine, but for installing one package, gdebi is the better tool GUI wise [17:09] No need to open an entire app market to install one package that isnt in that app market/repo anyway [17:09] Just like ubuntu used to use gdebi :) [17:10] jbicha, i appreciate it though. I wouldve looked for the bug, but I was already on freenode, so figured I would popin and ask before I went digging in my browser [17:13] jbicha and tgm4883 have a good day :) [17:16] Dangit, jbicha one more thing [17:16] Cause this a fresh install I hadnt enabled my irc logs, what was that bug number [17:17] Oh wait, nvm. I see I have a small backlog automatically when entering a channel. I see it [17:17] Thanks again :) [17:37] Today, I updated the Mesa packages, and now a game (Tibia) wont work anymore, it segfaults at startup [17:41] Maximum number of clients reached [17:41] what's that error? [17:42] happens whenever I launch a program [18:02] ok [18:02] fixed [18:02] Today, I updated the Mesa packages, and now a game (Tibia) wont work anymore, it segfaults at startup [18:02] akonadi appears to spawn lots of processes [18:03] smallfoot-: report a bug? [18:04] how? [18:04] Tibia is a proprietary game and not in repo [18:04] Mesa has many packages [18:04] idk then [18:27] timo allthonen broke mesa [18:27] it is KernelFreeze, NonLanguagePackTranslationDeadline and shit now [18:27] and he updated mesa [18:27] and now stuff stopps working [18:28] smallfoot-, no cursing here [18:28] ok sry [18:30] and tomorrow is final freeze [18:44] is there a way to execute *.sh files by double clicking in nautilus, like in previous versions of ubuntu ?? [18:59] !find ia32 [18:59] Found: grub-efi-ia32, grub-efi-ia32-bin, grub-efi-ia32-dbg, lsb-core, lsb-cxx, lsb-desktop, lsb-graphics, lsb-printing, ia32-libs-multiarch, lsb-languages (and 2 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=ia32&searchon=names&suite=raring§ion=all [19:25] bazhang, I found a bug in Mesa and it has importance HIGH, I also installed debug symbol libraries ran debugger with backtrace! [19:25] smallfoot-, thanks that's helpful. Mind a few more steps to gather some extra data? [19:26] bryce harrington (famous cool ubuntu guy) said thanks :D [19:26] thats great smallfoot- [19:26] cuz am helpin these duds out fixing ubuntu [19:26] thats what this distro is all about [19:26] yeah!! :D [19:26] am rly proud now! :D [19:33] Hi, can anyone help me on getting my wifi to work with the gui? I got it working via the CLI, but it doesnt show up in Unity [19:34] after upgrading to 13.04, there is no option in "sound manager" for HDMI output (it worked in 12.10, and yes, the cable is connected :) ) [19:54] when upgraded to 13.04 I get no sound from HDMI (no option listed in "sounds"). How can this be solved? [19:56] hello friends [19:56] Anybody using unity tweak tool? I'm finding that the hot corner feature does not work on a dual monitor setup... [20:15] I just went through my sources, swapping them out for their "raring" versions but I noticed that the Steam package has placed a repo in there and that it is for "precise" although I had just been on 12.10 before updating, does this mean steam doesn't have a different repo for 12.10 and 13.04? === mathor is now known as crhrabal === hays_ is now known as hays [20:19] they probably only have a 12.04 repo [20:20] Thats what I'm thinking, ok I'll re-enable that [20:21] you can use precise just fine, the package is just a bash script which downloads more stuff so far I know [20:22] jtaylor, I know, just making sure I have the latest script that points to raring kernel friendly stuff [20:50] leh sigh... I hate it when issues that should seem minor, completely vex me. How can I set up firefox to use pinch to zoom and 2-finger scrolling gestures? [20:51] hi all, could help with installing bumblebee? I've tried several ways and can not get it to work [20:54] mrjoel, ctrl + to zoom, ctrl - to shrink , 2 finger scrolling ? [20:55] I just us the arrow keys [20:55] yes blues :) I'm trying to set up a system with no keyboard or mouse access, just screen (like a tablet basically) [20:57] mrjoel, laptop eh? [20:57] i can drag the scrollbar down to scroll down a page, but it isn't "user friendly", suppose i could have a firefox plugin with zoom buttons, but same thing... wondering if i could do better [20:58] nope, thin client and a 27" monitor [20:58] gonna mount it in a workcell [20:59] Anyone using spotify and recently notice that if you lock spotify launcher to the dock and launch it, it creates 2 icons now [21:26] I do, didn't notice that yet [21:26] I'll check it out tomorow, after fresh reboot with latest updates [21:27] Do you also always get "offline access has been revoked for this device"? [21:28] Maybe it's because I sync to too many devices though === otend_ is now known as otend === hggdh_ is now known as hggdh [22:45] i try again today. i have trouble updating ubuntu 13.04 (amd64). the software updater says this: Failed to download repository information Check your Internet connection [22:46] someone able to help? [22:49] this is what i get in terminal: http://pastebin.com/RjX3fXS7 [22:55] it is a clean install done after the kernel freeze so i presumed most bugs should be sorted out. is it possible to get some support here, or do i have to wait for the final release and download again then? [22:56] how long have you been seeing this? [22:56] can you open the url in a browser? [22:57] yes i tried that yester day. i has been like this since the fresh installation two days ago [22:57] *i=it [22:58] im on raring kubuntu and i have broken HDMI audio with radeon driver on 3.8.0.18 (amd64) it works on other kernels correctly [23:00] proof: http://pastebin.com/giXPPFnu [23:01] i have gotten many updates but there is always this error when i do a manual update [23:01] you could try a sudo rm -f /var/cache/apt/lists/* [23:02] and then apt-get update again [23:03] must leave now, bye [23:05] jtaylor: no difference [23:11] wilee-nilee: hi again. i did not follow you last tip last night as the errors there was different from mine and it was not official Ubuntu solutions [23:13] Guest78104, cool I forget the links I posted by now. [23:14] as i could understand it was not the right solution [23:14] Ah the key problem, I wopuld use the actionparsnip one I have used it twice since then on a double rload of a clone. [23:15] yes [23:18] i find this strange and frustrating. ubuntu is supposed to be solid. but when you encounter errors in something as basic as with the system update and it is so hard to find a official solution or support... hmmmm [23:19] common people like me want simple and secure solutions [23:30] Guest78104, You have run into a glitch that is rather uncommon, so there is no official fix, repos change keys and things can get mixed up on occasion. [23:34] hmmm, ok. ill give it a try :) [23:35] Guest78104, Did you catch the comment on just commenting out the repo in the sources list in #ubuntu as well. [23:36] when i run: "sudo ./fixpackage" i enter password and the cursor just blink and i can write but notting seems to happen. [23:36] sorry [23:36] it started now [23:38] the script did not help [23:38] still get the same error [23:39] Guest78104, Try commenting it out in the sources list open it with gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and find that repo and put # in front of it [23:40] wilee-nilee: whywould i want to comment out official ubuntu repo? [23:42] Guest78104, That link is just to a key, not a update or upgrade [23:43] it errors out so it is not needed basically. [23:46] i dont get what line to comment out [23:46] Guest78104, Copy and paste the whole file to a pastebin [23:46] !paste [23:46] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [23:47] http://pastebin.com/ZFreHxns [23:48] anybody with nouveau getting X crashes? [23:51] Guest78104, I think it is the raring partner, it may not be set up pre-release. deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu raring partner [23:51] I will boot to raring and take a look be right back/ [23:51] ok, tnx [23:55] wilee-nilee: you are right :D