[10:37] <CKLMN> hello , i want to learn how i can contribute to the development
[12:47] <cars10> hi. ask in german or english?
[12:47] <cars10> I need advise on upgrading ubuntu.
[12:48] <coalwater> cars10: well english would probably help more people understand
[12:48] <cars10> ok
[12:48] <cars10> I currently run ubuntu 10.10 with encrypted hd
[12:48] <cars10> and from terrible past experience (suse in the 90s)
[12:48] <cars10> I don't dare upgrading my ubuntu to 12
[12:49] <cars10> should I just upgrade and quit wining like a bitch or is it better to backup EVERYTHING
[12:49] <coalwater> ur worried ur data would become unreadable ?
[12:49] <cars10> ?
[12:49] <geirha> upgrading from 10.10 is long overdue
[12:49] <cars10> I do know that
[12:50] <cars10> it doesn't change the fact that it hasn't been done yet
[12:50] <geirha> it'll also be a long upgrade. you have to upgrade 10.10 -> 11.04 -> 11.10 -> 12.04
[12:50] <cars10> thanks you. that is good to know.
[12:50] <cars10> so there is no way I can go straight to 12.04
[12:50] <cars10> :(
[12:51] <geirha> from 10.04 you can go straight to 12.04
[12:51] <cars10> damn
[12:51] <geirha> because 10.04 and 12.04 are LTS (long term support) releases
[12:51] <cars10> ok.
[12:51] <geirha> and from 12.04 you can upgrade directly to 14.04 when it comes out
[12:52] <cars10> by "long" you mean it would be smarter to backup all stuff and just start a fresh install,right?
[12:53] <geirha> Whether it's smarter or not, I have no answer, but fresh install will probably be faster overall. It's up to you.
[12:53] <cars10> ok. thank you very much for your support.
[12:53] <coalwater> cars10: is the data too big to be backed up ?
[12:53] <cars10> that is the problem
[12:53] <cars10> exactly
[12:54] <cars10> a few TB of VMs
[12:54] <geirha> Then it might be faster to upgrade after all :)
[12:55] <cars10> hehehe,maybe. but as everything is encrypted i am not convinced of that really.
[12:55] <cars10> does upgrading an encrypted machine take "much" longer?
[12:55] <coalwater> how about u try to install a new ubuntu on a small drive, and try to mount the old home without deleting the old ubuntu
[12:55] <geirha> Depends on what's encrypted
[12:55] <coalwater> partition*
[12:56] <geirha> If it's only the homedirs, then it shouldn't have an impact
[12:56] <cars10> nope. each and every HD is
[12:56] <geirha> Even / ?
[12:56] <cars10> ?
[12:56] <isiah> i didnt even know you could encrypt /
[12:56] <cars10> it has this
[12:57] <cars10> decrypt thing on boot
[12:57] <cars10> i did not crypt folders
[12:57] <cars10> just the entire HD as prompted on install some years back
[12:59] <coalwater> i'd still try mounting it on a live cd or another installation, just out of curiousity lol
[13:00] <cars10> i am expecting the upgrade to fail because of the full disk encryption
[13:07] <cars10> thanks though.
[13:40] <murxlaus> hi
[13:40] <murxlaus> can i ask some question about ubdev-killing-events troubleshooting
[13:42] <murxlaus> i having a ubdev-killing event on startup and want to find out which module is causing the problem
[13:42] <murxlaus> can somebody give me an addvice what i can do?
[14:08] <philinux> murxlaus: you might do better on #ubuntu chanel
[14:10] <murxlaus> ok thank.
[16:40] <Phryq> hey, you know how windows becomes 'buggy' when you install too much crap? Can the same happen with Ubuntu?
[16:41] <Phryq> Because both my browsers, firefox and chromium, keep crashing when I try to use youtube
[16:41] <Phryq> maybe I should uninstall some junk?
[16:42] <Phryq> maybe I should get rid of anything not from the official repos?
[23:25] <CaliMac> hey everyone
[23:26] <CaliMac> Do i have to have USB drive formatted FAT16 to install 12.10 from a dual boot hackintosh
[23:39] <isiah_> CaliMac: I very much doubt it
[23:39] <isiah_> what are you trying to do exactly?
[23:45] <CaliMac> i am trying to create a usb drive installer of 12.10 ubuntu desktop x64 so i cna load it onto a seperate hard drive and dual boot my hackintosh running 10.6.8 and ubuntu
[23:46] <CaliMac> Ok, that is a great straightforward fix. ill try it NOW.
[23:46] <isiah_> I get the feeling I just missed something.
[23:47] <CaliMac> I have not been on IRC since highschool in the 90's.  I typed into another channel by accident
[23:47] <isiah_> oh
[23:47] <isiah_> what was the solution?
[23:48] <CaliMac> im going to use disk utility to restore the installer to the thumb drive
[23:49] <isiah_> just wondering if it would be possible to run your mac os in a VM on top of ubuntu
[23:49] <CaliMac> disk utility grey's out the iso and will only let me restore a .dmg file
[23:50] <isiah_> what program are you using?
[23:52] <CaliMac>  mac osx disk utility.  i am googling it now
[23:54] <CaliMac> AWKB