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| * snwh breaks the silence | 16:46 | |
| * jedidiah puts it back together again. | 16:51 | |
| snwh | damn | 16:55 |
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| mpt | Lock when idle. Lock on sleep. Sleep locks immediately. | 16:59 |
| mpt | Sleep when idle. | 16:59 |
| mpt | This is like "/!\ The display will turn off before the screensaver activates." all over again. | 16:59 |
| snwh | you forgot sleep on idle | 17:06 |
| mpt | What's the difference between "sleep on idle" and "Sleep when idle"? :-) | 17:06 |
| snwh | I was kidding :P | 17:08 |
| mpt | A shame English doesn't have a common simple word for "inhibit" | 17:11 |
| xnox | mpt: do you mean suspend or hybernate? big difference between the two inhibit methods on UNIX...... | 17:12 |
| mpt | xnox, neither | 17:13 |
| mpt | well | 17:13 |
| xnox | *sigh* | 17:13 |
| mpt | xnox, the equivalent of "Lock Screen" | 17:14 |
| xnox | mpt: on the technical side of things it's actually same as switching to a different user account. Since just like a logged in user it has indicators/launcher/apps/"live wallpaper with information". | 17:15 |
| mpt | "Shorter times are more secure. Phone won’t lock during calls or video playback.” | 17:15 |
| xnox | why not. | 17:15 |
| mpt | xnox, yeah, the equivalent of "Lock Screen", not the equivalent of "Switch User Account…" | 17:16 |
| xnox | you can totally keep the phone call / video playback active, yet require to unlock after one exits. | 17:16 |
| mpt | E.g. if you're playing music and you lock the phone, the music should keep playing. | 17:16 |
| xnox | similarly one shouldn't require to unlock the phone to play public youtube video or to answer a call. | 17:16 |
| mpt | That's a separate problem. :-) | 17:16 |
| xnox | thus after exiting the phone call, you may see the lock screen =) | 17:17 |
| mpt | Yes. | 17:17 |
| mpt | "during" | 17:17 |
| * xnox likes screen turning off during the call though. | 17:18 | |
| * snwh doesn't like screen *locking* during a call | 17:18 | |
| mpt | Yes, but that isn't the same as locking either... | 17:18 |
| xnox | and when the screen is off it's hard to tell if it's "locked or off or something else" | 17:18 |
| mpt | To find out, just take it away from your ear | 17:19 |
| snwh | presumably the screen turns off during a call due to the proximity sensor | 17:19 |
| xnox | snwh: sure but turning off screen based on the proximity/ambience sensor during the call saves piles of battery. | 17:19 |
| snwh | not debating that | 17:19 |
| xnox | mpt: you clearly don't talk on the phone in nightclubs / at night =) it didn't always work on iPhone 3gs requiring me to press the lock button to "wake it up" | 17:20 |
| snwh | sometimes i've made a call via the speaker and still used the phone for other things, so the screen isnt off in that case | 17:20 |
| xnox | snwh: hmm... yeah and not locked either.... | 17:20 |
| xnox | hmm.... | 17:20 |
| snwh | it could go off if idle+during call | 17:21 |
| snwh | should implement a "slam-to-end-call" so you can hang up your phone like the old days –using the proximity/accelerometer– "Smack your phone face-down on the table to end a call." :P | 17:23 |
| snwh | cause hanging up violently has been lost | 17:23 |
| xnox | yeah, some phone did go silent if you flip it (accelerometor or something) | 17:24 |
| * snwh isn't serious :) | 17:25 | |
| * xnox is MUAHAHAH | 17:25 | |
| * xnox off to code that feature | 17:25 | |
| xnox | snwh: the problem with open source is feature creep, but worse off working implementations of feature creep =) | 17:25 |
| snwh | it wouldn't be a feature that would be popular, as slamming your $600 phone isn't ideal :) | 17:26 |
| mpt | https://twitter.com/rohdesign/status/324548858430500865 | 17:26 |
| snwh | that would be hard on the colon | 17:26 |
| mpt | Just posted "Security & Privacy" wireframes (no spec text yet): https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityAndPrivacySettings#Phone | 18:02 |
| snwh | in terms of lock, I've always liked a pattern lock akin to Android | 18:04 |
| xnox | snwh: used to be useless as it used to auto-unlock upon completing the sequence without requiring one to lift the finger, thus one could brute-force by only trying all the 9 spots combinations sans jumps which was less than 4 digit pin. | 20:00 |
| xnox | and smudges on the screen give it away even quicker =) | 20:00 |
| xnox | iphone is more annoying, even with lock it pushes private sms & email on to the lock screen =( | 20:01 |
| xnox | idealy i'd like to pin protect OTP generator | 20:04 |
| snwh | xnox, what? the combinations for a non-jump 9 point pattern are far higher than range of possibilities for a 4 digit pin | 21:03 |
| snwh | well for a lock screen I'm talking, not the sim lock pin | 21:03 |
| xnox | snwh: i'll have to calculate again..... you are quite right. | 21:32 |
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