[15:17] <AndrewMcC> A few weeks ago a work colleague asked me to fix her daughter's laptop. Replaced the dead hard drive but she didn't have the recovery media so I installed Ubuntu. Weeks later she still hasn't found the recovery CD and has no interest in doing so. :)
[15:19] <czajkowski> yay
[15:49] <tdr112> not too bad at all
[16:46] <airurando> got news today that my small op, originally scheduled for Friday 19th, has been postponed until Friday 26th.
[16:46] <airurando> This reduces my chances of attending the release party
[16:46] <airurando> :-(
[16:46] <zmoylan> ah, bugger, that eliminates i'm guessing the release party for you
[16:46]  * airurando is not happy
[16:47] <airurando> still have a glimmer of hope zmoylan
[16:47] <zmoylan> and also an extra week with internal metalwork annoying you
[16:47] <airurando> they said id be fit for work on the following monday
[16:48] <zmoylan> i was told there'd be an instant improvement after hip surgery.  doctors view of their work may not be the same as patients.  they have different variables for measuring results.
[16:48] <airurando> zmoylan indeed but they are only taking out i screw leaving 2 plates with multiple screws in as well as 2 extra pins
[16:48] <zmoylan> fun for holidays when you have to go through metal detectors
[16:49] <airurando> *1screw
[16:49] <airurando> Actually I've been told that the modern metalwork doesn't set the detectors off in 95 percent of cases
[16:50] <zmoylan> which will only complicate things as it will only happen when you're in a hurry or have hands full with something else.
[16:51] <airurando> exactly
[16:51] <airurando> i just know I'll be one of the 5 percent
[16:53] <zmoylan> hmm. i read that as only rarely would metal detectors detect the metal so a 1/20 chance of a machine detecting it rather than only 1/20 people would have the problem.
[16:54] <zmoylan> have you checked with android phone metal detector?
[17:17] <airurando> didn't know there was one.
[17:22] <zmoylan> the star trek tricorder app uses the digital compass as a metal detector.  only works for metals that affect magnetic fields (ferrous metals) but can be useful.  app no longer in play srore but available for sideloading online.
[17:25] <airurando> downloaded the smart tools co. metal detector app which works as you said above.  no spike when i place it near the plates.
[17:26] <airurando> not a surprise .
[17:26] <airurando> what metals do airport detectors detect?
[17:27] <zmoylan> all, when they are turned on.  they don't want it too sensitive but some women report that the underwire in bras can and sometimes can't set them off which is an indication of the amount of metal
[17:28] <airurando> but are they ferrous based?
[17:28] <airurando> is aluminium detected
[17:28] <zmoylan> yes
[17:29] <airurando> hmmmm
[17:29] <zmoylan> metal detectors generate a more powerful but smaller field than earth and detect variations in that.
[17:29] <airurando> magnetic field?
[17:30] <airurando> if so how does aluminium alter it?
[17:31] <zmoylan> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metal_detector#Discriminators
[17:32] <airurando> can't pretend to understand it but I accept it!
[17:34] <zmoylan> then again the human skeleton is calcium which is a metal
[17:35] <slashbel> you can usually get a bit of metal through… buckles on shoes, the fly on your trousers and the metal frame of glasses
[17:35] <zmoylan> they have to have a sensitivity level but this can vary.  airurando now with internal bling may or may not set it off
[17:38] <airurando> slashbel: zmoylan: I'll have to forsake the buckle, zipper and other external bling to compensate.
[17:38] <airurando> :-)
[17:38] <slashbel> just set the alarms off ☺
[17:38] <airurando> ha!
[17:38] <airurando> would be fun
[17:39] <airurando> I've asked my wife the hypothetical Q
[17:39] <airurando> if we're at the airport on the way to sun and I get stopped what do you do?
[17:39] <airurando> she head off was the answer
[17:40] <slashbel> how much metal do you have?
[17:41] <airurando> 2 plates with associated screws and a couple of of screws not associated with the plates.  One plate 20cm ish and the second less than 10 cm but it is a T plate.
[17:42] <airurando> looting at the scars maybe first plate is more 15 cm ish
[17:43] <slashbel> i would have thought it would be a fairly common occurance at airport security
[17:43] <airurando> aye
[17:43] <slashbel> how's the healing process going?
[17:43] <airurando> I'll get a letter from my GP and keep it with the passport
[17:44] <airurando> healing grand I think.
[17:44] <airurando> Back to work now
[17:44] <slashbel> good good
[17:44] <airurando> looking forward to getting the one screw out
[17:45] <slashbel> airurando: you're presuming airport security can read English
[17:45] <zmoylan> airurando: you're presuming airport security can read ftfy
[17:47] <airurando> I wouldn't be as well travelled as you gents
[17:47] <airurando> I'm sure my english letter will suffice in most cases for me.
[17:48] <slashbel> airurando: I was thinking of France or Spain
[17:51] <airurando> google translate! or whatever the bloody online translation thingys are
[17:51] <slashbel> you should be grand ☺
[17:52] <airurando> aye, as you said slashbel probably not an issue at all as im surely not the first
[17:54] <slashbel> yep, i used to get a few funny looks taking a gnome for airport security
[17:58] <slashbel> through airport security*
[17:58] <slashbel> airurando: just don't try and take that harmless bottle of water through, and everything should be fine ☺
[17:59] <airurando> good tip!