[00:44] <pcarrier> hey! do you have some up-to-date documentation about how the official AMIs are produced, or even better, how to tune the process to produce custom AMIs? I'm assuming lp:~ubuntu-on-ec2/vmbuilder/automated-ec2-builds is still used, but I'd like to be sure.
[00:48] <sarnold> pcarrier: this looks related: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEC/Images#Building_Your_Own_Ubuntu_Cloud_Guest_images
[00:48] <sarnold> pcarrier: (I started from http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/ and followed likely-looking links..)
[00:49] <pcarrier> sarnold: ok, so you expect that to be up-to-date, thanks
[00:50] <pcarrier> I mean, everything but one sentence refers to 11.10 or older
[00:50] <sarnold> pcarrier: I hope so :) it at least knows about precise..
[00:51] <pcarrier> sarnold: well, it does indeed barely pass that criteria
[00:51] <sarnold> hehe
[00:51] <pcarrier> sarnold: but you see my point.
[00:51] <sarnold> yes.
[00:51] <pcarrier> sarnold: I'd rather hear "here's how we baked our latest batch of images, hoy hoy! enjoy while it's hot!"
[00:52] <pcarrier> not sure what I was going for with this quote.
[00:52] <sarnold> pcarrier: hehe, it make sense anyway :)
[00:55] <ia0001> hello
[00:55] <ia0001> anyone know why im unable to view flash videos on ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[00:55] <ia0001> i updated all the flash stuff
[00:56] <sarnold> ia0001: servers don't typically have a graphical web browser installed, nor the flash player.. but if you've chosen to install those components, you'll also need to install the flashplugin-installer package
[00:57] <ia0001> ok i  installed that
[00:57] <ia0001> and its not working
[01:34] <jgdovin> hi all
[01:35] <jgdovin> so, while trying to fix my screen not being able to allocate ptys i screwed up /dev/pts perms
[01:35] <jgdovin> and now regular users get "must be connected to a terminal" when trying to run screen inside an ssh session thats already established
[01:43] <jgdovin> any help would be loved :)
[01:46] <sarnold> jgdovin: here's hoping this is useful to you :) http://paste.ubuntu.com/5714797/
[01:46] <sarnold> devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,noexec,nosuid,gid=5,mode=0620)
[01:51] <ai9371> someone please help flash player is not working
[01:51] <ai9371> on ubuntu 12.04 LTS server
[01:51] <ai9371> could it because somewhting to do with 32bit system.. it works fine on my ubuntu 12.04 desktop
[02:52] <billy_ran_away> Ugh, can someone please tell how in the hell I start a RAID array in degraded mode?
[02:52] <billy_ran_away> State : active, degraded, Not Started
[02:52] <billy_ran_away> http://cl.ly/OKh1
[02:57] <scjr> Hey I'm having some linux-general-pae depependancy problems (stemming from not having enough space to configure a new kernel I think) anyone know any easy fixes? - http://pastebin.com/1mdfP10j
[03:37] <patdk-lap> did you run, apt-get update?
[05:25] <Shadow__X> hello I am running ubuntu 12.04.2 in a virtual machine on esxi. I have not been able to get cpu frequtils to work under ubuntu. this is what cpu freq lists http://pastebin.com/7nvmm0Wi also the cpu is an amd fx 8320
[05:46] <[LE]> I'm trying to setup an openvpn server on a VPS running Ubuntu 12.10, and I'm able to connect to the server from my windows machines. But cant seem to figure out the routing part with iptables
[05:48] <[LE]> this is the only entry I have in the firewall: "iptables -A FORWARD -i tun0 -o venet0:0 -j ACCEPT
[05:48] <[LE]> "
[08:31] <Syria> Hello, I have a remote VPS, I usually create an ssh tunnel and browse internet using it with command "ssh -D 'port' user@host" my question is can I apply these settings system wide? I am talking about the socks proxy and port settings.
[08:34] <Shadow__X> Syria: you can put it in to your browser
[08:35] <Shadow__X> Syria: i know that OS X makes system wide proxys very easy but iirc windows wasnt as easy for system wide
[08:35] <Syria> Shadow__X: Some applications doesn't allow you to use any proxies.
[08:36] <Shadow__X> then you might want to try openvpn or another type of vpn
[08:37] <Syria> Shadow__X:  Someone told me that I can do it from the terminal, iptables thing!
[08:37] <Shadow__X> probably but i am not entirely sure how
[08:37] <Shadow__X> a vpn would be a good idea though
[08:38] <Shadow__X> that would allow you to secure all of your traffic
[08:38] <Syria> Shadow__X:  Is it easy to configure my server and change it into a VPN server?
[08:39] <Shadow__X> Syria: this seems pretty complete https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenVPN
[08:39] <Syria> Shadow__X:  Thank you
[08:39] <Shadow__X> Syria: so it would depend on how comfortable you would be following that
[08:39] <Syria> Shadow__X:  I will read it now,
[08:40] <Shadow__X> since it is a vps i would take a snapshot before you do anyting
[08:40] <Shadow__X> if you can take snapshots that is
[08:40] <Syria> snapshot of what? Are you talking about a backup?
[08:41] <Shadow__X> snapshot of the server
[08:41] <Shadow__X> and yes a backup
[08:41] <Syria> Shadow__X:  Thnx again, I will start working on it now.
[08:42] <Shadow__X> Syria: make a backup before you do anything
[08:42] <Shadow__X> and if your vps gives you access to snapshots make one of those as well
[08:48] <Kekke>  Hello everyone, I have an ubuntu server running LAMP, in apaches /var/www I have sub directories with users, i.e. /var/www/kekke/www/, this www folder is owned by the user Kekke with the group sftpuser, my group sftpuser gives the users access to the folder through sftp (their home dir is set to /var/www/user/www/). But when I install joomla to the www folder, I get all files/folders as unwritable, if I manually change them to 77
[08:48] <Kekke> if I however change the user owning the /user/www folder to www-data I get the correct permissions, but that makes my user unable to sftp to their dir, what do I need to achieve correct permissions on every new user I add?
[09:07] <shmoon> hello friends
[09:07] <shmoon> in the chroot tutorial i read to do this /proc /var/chroot/hardy/proc none rbind 0 0 - is it really good to do this, is it safe? can affect environment outside chroot
[09:09] <andol> shmoon: Whatever that is a good idea really depends on the purpose of the chroot.
[09:10] <shmoon> andol: just want to execute few binaries, but still in general, if something wrong happens there it'll affect the /proc outside, so it shouldnt be a good thing to do
[09:11] <shmoon> the tutorial also mentions to do a mount on /dev
[09:11] <shmoon> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot - i am a beginner trying to understand
[09:14] <andol> shmoon: Well, if you are worried about something being on purpose malicious I wouldn't mount /proc in the chroot. On the other hand, most regular userspace programs won't accidently fail in a fashion which will cause problems with procs.
[09:14] <andol> shmoon: Yet, to be on the safe side and not having to worry, how about instead going for a virtual test machine?
[09:14] <catphish> i notice that some libraries have moved from /usr/lib to /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu, is there a good way to determine the actual location of an installed library?
[09:15] <catphish> (programatically)
[09:17] <shmoon> andol: no idea how to set thyose up, chroot seemed easy
[09:23] <catphish> actually my question is unnecessary, libraries can always be specified by relative path
[11:44] <Deleteyrself> shut up and listen some http://anonpt.caster.fm/
[12:44] <vrturbo> whats the best was to test hard disk perfomance from the cli
[12:46] <patdk-wk> vrturbo, define hard disk performance
[12:46] <vrturbo> read , write speed
[12:46] <patdk-wk> well, that was a given
[12:47] <patdk-wk> bandwidth or latency performance?
[12:47] <vrturbo> i've got an ssd but I think Im hitting buffer issues
[12:47] <patdk-wk> buffer issues? buffers are bad
[12:47] <vrturbo> 838860800 bytes (839 MB) copied, 0.555752 s, 1.5 GB/s
[12:47] <vrturbo> that can't be right ?
[12:48] <patdk-wk> dunno
[12:48] <patdk-wk> I can't see the command you used to produce that output
[12:48] <vrturbo> if I test with 8gig I get a more believable output
[12:48] <vrturbo> 8388608000 bytes (8.4 GB) copied, 29.5639 s, 284 MB/s
[12:49] <patdk-wk> you should always test with 10x your ram, and/or use direct
[12:49] <patdk-wk> you should also not use /dev/zero, but random
[12:49] <vrturbo> I  have 24 gig on this server
[12:49] <vrturbo> oh wait 8 gig on this one
[12:50] <vrturbo> never tested ssd before, it's a new server so hasn't been put to work yet
[12:51] <patdk-wk> testing an ssd is the same as testing a normal disk
[12:51] <patdk-wk> the only difference I know of, is, they started adding compression into ssd's
[12:51] <patdk-wk> so using /dev/zero will give you higher than normal results
[12:51] <patdk-wk> I have no idea why they haven't done that with normal disks, but it might be half pointless maybe
[12:52] <vrturbo> lets try 10 gig test and doing a sync this time
[12:52] <vrturbo> 10485760000 bytes (10 GB) copied, 38.6364 s, 271 MB/s
[12:53] <vrturbo> just a single sata drive
[14:34] <CalebRipley> Hello, i have trouble with samba since yesterday. All of my maschines are unable to loggin on my PDC. I know that it is unlikely but is it possible that the patch from yesterday caused that?
[14:36] <imjustmatthew_> CalebRipley: I applied the patch and didn't have nay problems so far, but I have a pretty simple setup (Samba as PDC against local users only, no OpenLDAP or MIT Kerbeos)
[14:42] <CalebRipley> I am not quite sure, the patch cve-2013-0454.patch looked pretty harmless but all machines are unable to login since then.
[14:45] <CalebRipley> I am just using the default passwd backend
[14:57] <feisar> hi, I have a script which adds some routing rules, it works fine when run manually but not when called from /etc/rc.local (this is a clean 12.04 install) why might that be?
[15:04] <greppy> feisar: are you giving the full path to the commands?
[15:05] <feisar> greppy: I'm giving the full path to a script which has the commands in (/usr/local/bin/routing)
[15:05] <feisar> ah but that doesn't have the full paths to the commands in...
[15:08] <feisar> ok I'm rebooting the machine...
[15:12] <pdkl> why is my syslog empty?
[15:12] <feisar> greppy: yes, I think that's sorted it, thank you : )
[15:13] <feisar> greppy: (there was also somthing else wrong too when I checked the script so I'm not sure if I needed the full paths, but I'll leave them in)
[16:29] <greppy> feisar: you either need the full paths, or you need to specify a PATH variable in the script.
[18:25] <izanagisan> good afternoon to all
[18:25] <ThatOneRoadie> Long time no see :{
[18:25] <ThatOneRoadie> :P*
[19:17] <keithzg_> Hmphh, trying to do some OpenCL stuff on some remote machines, but even "sudo DISPLAY=:0 fglrxinfo" and I get "error: unable to open display (null)". And any opencl program I run at best segfaults :P
[19:24] <keithzg_> Hmm,  lspci -nnk | grep VGA -A3 seems to show that I'm using the "radeon" kernel module, even though /etc/modprobe.d/fglrx.conf is explicitly blacklisting it.
[20:29] <fluvvell> are there any new "worthwhile" front ends for administering samba with ldap and the like? I'd like to give administration of usernames and passwords to a cabable staff member via a web interface if poss.
[21:14] <Mark2> Evening all. It's my first time installing ubuntu server onto an old pc for a home server and minecraft server for a few friends. I have a question - should I choose the 32 or 64 bit version of Ubuntu server? The pc has a pentium 4 2.4 Ghz CPU but I don't know if it has a "Prescott"core or whether it supports 64 bit processing. Any advice would be much appreciated!
[21:16] <Mark2> Anyone able to help?
[21:18] <sarnold> Mark2: 32 bit is likely to work everywhere, but 64 bit gives applications larger address spaces, which might be nice for minecraft, I thought I heard that thing sucks down whatever memory you give it..
[21:19] <genii-around> Mark2: If you boot to a livecd, you can do : sudo lshw -C cpu  | grep width     and it will tell you there
[21:21] <Mark2> Thanks guys. sarnold, would it not matter running applications with larger address spaces if the CPU can't handle 64 bit?
[21:22] <sarnold> Mark2: well, if the cpu won't do it, then it just won't go. :)
[21:22] <sarnold> Mark2: (honestly, I've never tried, I do'nt know how far into boot you'd make it, but less than a second sounds right :)
[21:23] <sarnold> Mark2: my comments about the address space were about the relative problems you'd have running 32 bits on a cpu capable of 64 bits -- it's not -so- bad, especially if you've only got 4 gigs of ram or less anyway :)
[21:24] <Mark2> Well I'm planning to put 4gig of Ram in the machine. It currently has a paultry 1GB...
[21:24] <genii-around> If it's a 32bit cpu, then you'll need the PAE kernel for it to see all 4
[21:25] <sarnold> do recent releases even have non-pae 32 bit kernels?
[21:25] <genii-around> sarnold: Lubuntu minimal does ;)
[21:25] <sarnold> genii-around: hunh :)
[21:25] <Mark2> I thought 32 bit systems could use up to 4GB natively.... I don't know lots about this as you can probably tell!
[21:26] <sarnold> genii-around: PAE page tables can't possibly add more than .. 16 bytes? .. to the pagetables in the kernels. that seems like an odd tradeoff to me.
[21:26] <sarnold> yeah, I thought a non-pae kernel ought to do 4 gigs just fine, but that's a spec I've never personally tried. :)
[21:27] <genii-around> Non-PAE ends up seeing somewhere in the area of 3.2G
[21:27] <sarnold> wow. I thoght that was just a windows problem. :)
[21:27] <sarnold> I mean, you'd only ever be able to give an -application- around 3 gigs, but I thought the computer as a whole could use all four.
[21:29] <Mark2> Just another quick question - would the 64bit version of ubuntu just refuse to run on a 32 bit machine? Basically, can I screw things up by trying to install the 64 bit version?
[21:29] <genii-around> Mark2: At any rate, I think the default 32bit kernel has PAE enabled by default now
[21:29] <genii-around> Mark2: Yes, the 64 bit version would just chink out and not install
[21:29] <genii-around> *chunk
[21:29] <Mark2> genii - thanks for the advice!
[21:29] <sarnold> Mark2: the worst is you would waste a cd or dvd burning something that won't boo
[21:30] <Patrickdk> what is the usespace limit for 32bit? 1gig? 2gig or 3gig?
[21:30] <Patrickdk> forget what ubuntu compiles the kernel mode for that
[21:30] <Patrickdk> that is always what I normally cared about
[21:30] <Patrickdk> why I would use 64bit even with 3gigs of ram
[21:30] <sarnold> Patrickdk: afaik, 3204 M
[21:30] <Patrickdk> plus I have some systems that only let you use 2.4gigs of ram, when you have 4gigs cause of bios stuff
[21:31]  * Patrickdk notes dell
[21:31] <sarnold> Patrickdk: though with standard library and executable layout, it'd probably run out of malloc space around 2.5 to 2.7 gigs in
[21:36] <Mark2> I think I just got an answer to my question: "This kernel requires an x86-64 CPU, but only detected an i686 CPU. Unable to boot - please use a kernel appropriate for your CPU"
[21:37] <genii-around> 32bit it is
[21:37] <sarnold> hehe, there you go :) 32 bits.
[21:37] <Mark2> *sigh* time to re-download the OS in 32 bit...
[21:38] <Mark2> thanks again for your help! I'll keep an eye out for the PAE thing in case the memory isn't recognised too.
[21:39] <sarnold> cool :) once it is installed, apt-cache search pae will hopefully make it more clear..
[21:48] <Patrickdk> mark2, normally pae works fine, but rarely, a pae kernel won't boot on 32bit cpu
[21:49] <sarnold> Patrickdk: no kidding?
[21:49] <Patrickdk> yep
[21:49] <Patrickdk> I have one next to me :)
[21:49] <Patrickdk> it won't use more than 3gigs of ram, even if installed it won't see it
[21:49] <sarnold> Patrickdk: is it labeled "iNTEL inside! 386/25 SX!" ? :)
[21:49] <Patrickdk> and it won't boot a pae kernel, or 64bit, even with a 64bit cpu
[21:49]  * Patrickdk blames the bios/mb
[21:51] <sarnold> that seems likely
[21:51] <sarnold> what is it? old pentium celeron or something?
[21:51] <Patrickdk> has an intel d 940 in it
[21:51] <Patrickdk> sl95w
[21:52] <sarnold> wow, dual core 4 megs cache 64 bit 3.2 ghz.. I'd expect that to be tolerable. go figure. :)
[21:52] <Patrickdk> no 64bit, no pae, it won't boot
[21:52] <Patrickdk> works on normal 32bit kernel just fine
[21:52] <sarnold> vt-x!
[21:53] <Patrickdk> but only sees 3gigs of ram, doesn't even see the last gig in the bios to count
[21:53] <sarnold> no vt-d though
[21:53] <sarnold> haha, awesome
[21:53] <Patrickdk> msi 945 neo5
[21:53] <sarnold> it even has an execute disable bit! I would expect to even benefit from the pae kernels. man.
[21:54] <Patrickdk> also has 6 bad caps
[21:54] <Patrickdk> but it's been sitting on the shelf for a few years now
[21:54] <sarnold> as a warning to the others?
[21:54] <Patrickdk> as a, I can't believe this crap, I will overcome it sometime
[21:54] <genii-around> Sounds like a BIOS problem
[21:57] <cuken> Is ZFS on linux to a stable enough point to run as the main file system using samba as a nas solution off of ubuntu-server?
[22:01] <blkperl> cuken: they said the latest release is production ready
[22:01] <blkperl> cuken: have backups though
[22:03] <cuken> Thanks blkperl, my google fu has been pretty hit or miss on the actual setup on a new server, do you know of any decent guides/resources for getting that running from scratch
[22:05] <blkperl> cuken: sorry nope. all you need to do though is add the PPA
[22:06] <blkperl> cuken: let me know your how it goes, I'm curious how other people are using it/bugs they've faced
[22:15] <cuken> i will report back with failure reports
[22:47] <izanagisan> quick question: has anyone tried to install Ubuntu Server (12.04) in an IBM x3650 Server? Should I expect compatibility?
[23:41] <jonzobrist> izanagisan, I run Ubuntu 12.04 (and 10.04 LTS) on IBM x3550's (about 50 of them) and have never had any problems
[23:44] <izanagisan> jonzobrist: that's really nice to know
[23:45] <jonzobrist> IBM has huge investments in Linux, and I would expect everything they make hardware wise to run Linux well
[23:45] <izanagisan> by the way, as a complete server and IBM noob, do you happen to know where can I find abundant and clear documentation on their servers?. I also have 1 x3650 M3 in which I want to set up RAID and install Ubuntu Server, but I've been really bad at finding instructions to set the system up
[23:46] <sarnold> izanagisan: have you found this yet? nothing specific to your hardware, but hopefully useful nonetheless: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/
[23:48] <izanagisan> sarnold: hadn't seen that guide. Seems quite conprehensive. Thank you very much