Lil-|^RedA little wave of hello comes from Lil-|^Red06:35
bigcalmGood morning peeps :)07:54
Lil-|^RedOT | Morning bigcalm. I left the radio on in the bedroom last night. | Awoke at 5.30am on the wrong planet... facepalm.08:23
mungbeanquiet today. everyone must be at maggies funeral08:41
brobostigonmungbean: unfortunatly not, i have the other evil to go to, the jobcentre.08:43
mungbeanarrgh gpu hangup killed my machine again08:48
mungbeanwhat a plague this bug is08:49
MooDoono at work08:49
mungbeani check irc before email nowadays ;_08:50
mungbeantesting some commands on irssi to hide the joins/quits08:51
mungbeanhope it works08:51
JamesTaitGood morning all, happy World Haemophilia Day!09:18
popeymungbean: i check irc from bed before I get up these days09:53
mungbeanjacked into the matrix09:53
popeyi use the irssi notifier which pings notifications to my android phone09:53
popeyindeed, in my pants too09:53
mungbeanhow to hide joins/quits in irssi?09:54
mungbeanthought i'd don ei t but not worked09:54
mungbeandidn't' work for me09:54
Seeker`in all other channels he just uses /ignore Seeker`09:56
mungbeanignore -channels #ubuntu-uk * JOINS PARTS QUITS NICKS09:57
mungbeanlike that?09:57
popeyi think so, not done it for a while09:57
mungbeanwaits for someone to leave09:58
Seeker`mungbean: how will you know if they've left?10:04
mungbeanhas anyone left lately?10:05
mungbeansince 10.57?10:05
mungbeanworks then \o/10:06
davmor2Morning all10:06
bigcalmMorning davmor210:10
bigcalmdavmor2: I'm guessing that if you're not at the LUG tonight, you're unlikely to be at the Lighthouse tomorrow?10:10
davmor2bigcalm: indeed not.  Too much to do too little time10:11
bigcalmdavmor2: story of life for many people10:11
davmor2bigcalm: week before the release, it's always organised chaos :)10:13
bigcalmdavmor2: organised you say? :P10:13
davmor2Yeah there are people managing the chaos, so that's organised right?10:13
MooDoomorning davmor210:14
Seeker`So, I requested a new pc at work 7 weeks ago. I was originally told it would take 'up to 10 days' as there were a couple of special requirements. I still haven't received it -_-10:14
davmor2MooDoo: me even owlda mucka10:16
Seeker`Pretty sure that I can order and receive a PC in < 24 hours10:16
MooDoodavmor2: pah10:16
Seeker`Not entirely sure how someone can drag it out for 7 weeks10:17
bigcalmCurrent wallpaper made me titter http://wallbase.cc/wallpaper/114964610:20
davmor2bigcalm: haha10:25
kvarleyHow do I tell which NVIDIA proprietary driver I need to select in "Additional Drivers"?11:40
kvarleylspci -v reports "NVIDIA Corporation G98 [GeForce 9300M GS] (rev a1)"11:41
popeywhat options do you have?11:43
kvarleypopey: http://en.zimagez.com/full/7c31858ba4ac134c329a618ec91320d47da3d694e0bba5106924c0fb25bf0a9d19ceba43d9a8a40c4ab983ab8c3176b15e80c930dabe7cb0.php11:47
kvarleyI was considering the top one, what just curious what the 310 and 173 and 304 numbers mean? Are they chipset codes?11:47
popeythat doesnt look like ubuntu11:48
popeyis it xubuntu or something? very grey11:48
kvarleypopey: It's XUbuntu, but it's using the same tool as Ubuntu uses11:48
popeyI'd choose the first one11:48
directhexkvarley, the numbers are driver series11:48
kvarleyI'll ask in #xubuntu if it's more appropriate, I just know lots of friendly people are present in this loco :)11:49
directhexkvarley, basically when nvidia give up on keeping every old chip supported in their latest driver, they dump it. the last working version stays in the archive, and gets occasionally patched up11:49
popeyno that wasnt my point11:49
kvarleydirecthex: This is an old laptop, Acer Aspire 6930. Is there an easy way to find out what series the gpu in this laptop is from?11:50
kvarleypopey: Should've said, sorry! :)11:50
directhexkvarley, well, it's a geforce 9300m11:50
kvarleydirecthex: Going with the top option then, thanks11:52
directhexkvarley, the latest driver supports (almost) all cards with an 8xxx model number or above11:52
kvarleydirecthex: Thanks :)11:53
directhexthe 173-series drivers support cards from 6xxx to 9xxx (not all 9xxx cards though, as far as i can see)11:53
directhexthe 96-series drivers do most geforce 2's through to 6xxx11:55
directhexi think support for geforce 1, some geforce 2, and TNT cards, is lost now11:55
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davmor2bigcalm: something wrong13:49
directhexmoo moo moo13:49
bigcalmdavmor2: was unable to get to some sites for a bit and spotify's buffer ran out for a while. All working now13:49
Lil-|^RedQuestion:: Anyone know if this is avail. for ubuntu yet ? http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/doom-3-bfg-edition-pc-steam-download-game-5-1529267?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_content=04172013&utm_campaign=Daily%2BHot13:52
Lil-|^Redsorry for the advert stuff.13:53
directhexLil-|^Red, doom 3 bfg edition will never get an "official" linux binary, but there's a source tree you can build13:56
Lil-|^Redright, thank-you.13:56
bigcalmSpotify needs a service status section on their website13:57
Lil-|^Redtry #spotify  ...least it's logged.13:59
Lil-|^RedSpotify :( .. also avail in Portugal, Poland and Italy. https://plus.google.com/103093000923989045518/posts/EnqTP2nhQC3  )14:02
Lil-|^Rednice playlist/s on that one.14:03
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kvarleyAwesome having android mtp support in 13.04 :)15:12
mungbeangiffgaff are intriducing a 7.50 goodybag too15:35
SuperMattwhat's on that one?15:43
mungbean 200mins, 250mb internet15:43
mungbeanunlmtd txts , free to gg15:43
SuperMattnot bad for catfacts purposes15:43
mungbeani use less than those limits15:44
mungbeancos i'm on wifi at work and home15:44
mungbeani would upgrade to £10 when on holida15:44
SuperMatteven at home I use a lot of my data tariff because I'm in an ooold victorian house with *2* wifi points, and it still doesn't get everywhere I need it15:45
SuperMattand when I'm at work... I don't want to log in to the work wifi with my credentials because I oft want to look at things... not work related15:45
SuperMattthough actually, I mostly use it at work to check if admin areas of our websites are accessable from external IPs15:46
SuperMattwhich they shouldn't be :P15:46
mungbeanyou cold always use the work wifi to vpn to your home server16:03
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mungbeanfor browsing reddit16:03
MartijnVdSmungbean: hmm, browsing reddit ;)16:09
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bigcalmDo 64bit win bins generally work in wine, or should I stick to 32bit versions? This is regarding an update for an application that I'm already running in wine16:14
MartijnVdSbigcalm: what happened when you tried? :)16:14
MartijnVdSI think wine's 64-bit support is still experimental.. but I'm not sure16:15
davmor2bigcalm: 2.4. Does Wine run on 64-bit? on http://wiki.winehq.org/FAQ16:18
bigcalmMartijnVdS: it was more to know if I should waste time downloading a 64bit version :)16:18
bigcalmAh, so I need wine64 to run it16:19
* bigcalm goes for the 32bit bin for simplicity16:19
directhexwine works transparently on 64-bit16:19
directhexit doesn't have support for 64-bit windows apps afaik though16:19
MartijnVdSdirecthex: the FAQ says it could have Win64-support, but it's experimental16:19
directhex32-bit is only useful in 2013 if you have less than 3.5G of RAM in your system16:20
bigcalmHuh, 64bit version worked without having to install anything else16:20
bigcalmThat was a surprise16:20
MartijnVdSdirecthex: too bad Windows programs tend to come in 32-bit only16:21
MartijnVdSdirecthex: and IF they come in 64-bit versions, they're marked as "you want the other one", because people still run XP and they don't want complaints16:21
directhexwell, games are 32-bit because they're designed to run in 200 meg of RAM16:22
directhexbecause ps316:22
directhexand apps... well 64-bit apps can't use 32-bit libs and vice versa16:23
MartijnVdSsure but firefox turned of 64-bit builds16:23
directhexwho wants a pluginless browser?16:23
MartijnVdSI'm not sure about latest Office16:23
MartijnVdSdirecthex: \o16:23
directhexoffice 2010+, some apps are available in 64-bit16:23
directhexi.e. excel16:24
MartijnVdSso it's the python 3-problem all over again?16:25
MartijnVdSno libs -> no programs -> no libs16:25
SuperMattI want to program in python3, but many of the libraries I want haven't been updated :(16:25
MartijnVdSSuperMatt: Django works with 3 now!16:26
directhexoffice isn't a product, it's an ecosystem. millions are spent every year on 3rd party plugins for office16:26
directhex32-bit plugins16:26
SuperMattsure, but things like python-daemon don't :(16:26
directhex(especially outlook)16:26
MartijnVdSdirecthex: yeah, I've seen outlook plugins16:26
MartijnVdSdirecthex: I think I cried blood that day16:26
bigcalmThis API I'm working with uses UNIT32 for all timestamps. It's Zigbee and thus uses an offset of 946684800 seconds (1st Jan 2000). But even so, it's used in embedded devices. Not good to be limiting to 32bit :(16:27
davmor2SuperMatt: they are slowly, very slowly16:28
MartijnVdSbigcalm: UINT32, I hope? :)16:28
ali1234why do you need a library to do [close(n) for n in [0, 1, 2]]16:29
bigcalmThankfully, I am unlikely to care in 2068 :)16:29
SuperMattdoesn't help that the daemon PEP is still being decided upon16:29
SuperMattpull your fingers out!16:29
SuperMattI guess I could contribute...16:29
bigcalmMartijnVdS: you're right, it is. Muscle memory :)16:29
MartijnVdSbigcalm: UNIT32 sounds like something from Doctor Who16:30
davmor2MartijnVdS: well UNIT needs barracks too you know16:31
bigcalmDo I want a steak for tea?16:39
bigcalmIt is at a Weatherspoons16:39
bigcalmIn Wolverhampton16:40
neurowell then, you can have a pint with your steak :)16:40
MartijnVdSbigcalm: so go there :)16:40
bigcalmA pint or 2 is inevitable - it's LUG night16:41
neurohaving a scotlug post-meet pint in wetherspoons was always handy, because thursdays were curry nights16:41
bigcalmYeah, we're always a day early for that16:42
neuroi really should start going to scotlug again, haven't been for years16:42
bigcalmTests: 211, Assertions: 2181, Failures: 1, Errors: 1.16:42
MartijnVdSneuro: would they recognise you?16:42
bigcalmTook 35mins to run those tests16:43
neuroi must admit, i'm loving my new job16:43
neurogetting to replace a whole bunch of win2k3 and win2k8 with ubuntu ;)16:44
MartijnVdSneuro: juju deploy ...?16:46
neuroonce i get my head round it, hopefully16:46
davmor2neuro: Landscape it all :)16:47
davmor2neuro: it's not that expensive16:48
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bigcalmThis is why turning up 'on time' is a bad thing. No other bugger does and I'm all on my tod for the LUG18:39
kindercoreanyone from UK18:52
MartijnVdSkindercore: nah, this is the UK channel :)18:53
kindercoreare youfrom di UK18:53
MartijnVdSI'm not, but most other people in here are from the UK18:53
MartijnVdSUnited Kingdom, not Ukraine ;)18:53
kindercorehave you ever checked out your gf feet?18:54
lubotu3Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic18:54
MartijnVdSoh great18:54
MartijnVdSnow he's pming18:54
popeykindercore: stop18:54
kindercorestop what18:54
popeyinappropriate conversations18:55
lubotu3Help!  dgjones, Myrtti, Mez, AlanBell, popey, Gary, Seeker`, Daviey, PriceChild or X3N18:59
MartijnVdShe's still pming.. adding /ignore19:00
mungbeanscientifically proven, best baby relax music http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rKYZ_BGxPM19:03
AlanBellnever gonna give you up . . .19:03
directhexmungbean, lullabies aren't effective with babies. white noise is, since it sounds like the general sounds of outside the womb when in the womb19:04
directhexi.e. sounds of rain, or the ocean, etc19:04
directhexor chainsaws.19:04
davmor2bigcalm: whine whine whine19:05
directhexIn the early days, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1Aw9o-4KUc worked quite well for sending nathan to sleep19:05
AlanBelltop tip, leave a running chainsaw in the nursery to send your child to sleep19:06
MartijnVdSdirecthex: My mother once told me I wouldn't sleep unless he turned on the vacuum cleaner :)19:06
directhexMartijnVdS, that correlates with what i said. seems legit.19:06
MartijnVdSAlanBell: Q: What's red and shrinking? A: A baby with a chainsaw.19:06
marsilainenwhat is the nicest GUI tool for ripping tracks from audio CDs these days?19:11
MartijnVdSI use sound-juicer19:12
MartijnVdSbut rhythmbox can do it as well19:12
MartijnVdSsound-juicer has nice musicbrainz options (to get metadata)19:12
mungbeanive truied all vids, white noise and pink noise etc, cricket, waterfall,but lullaby works best19:12
davmor2mungbean: technically the best is meant to be a dull heart beat.  That's why kids tend to fall asleep when you hold their head near your chest19:14
mungbeani dont have boobs, boobs are required19:15
mungbeani tried faking it but baby knew19:15
MartijnVdSmungbean: eat more ;)19:16
mungbeanhave some catching up to do19:16
davmor2mungbean: female hormone tablets19:17
mungbeanwhat was the "new morse" like?19:23
Myrttimungbean: get a soundboard app on your phone, something like Relax and Sleep on Android, I'm sure they've got both white noise and heartbeat as options, then put the phone on and put it into a pocket or something19:28
amayerif i disable secure boot(uefi) i can boot ubuntu and install it just like the good old days right?19:31
MartijnVdSeven with secure boot on it should work I think? isn't that one of the reasons for the 12.04.2 release?19:31
MartijnVdSUse the last version of Ubuntu. Support for UEFI appeared in 11.10, but has become more reliable in next versions. Support for UEFI SecureBoot appeared in 12.10 and
amayerawesome! ill have to get the most recent iso19:32
amayeri didnt think support came out yet for uefi.19:33
MartijnVdS11.10 supported UEFI19:33
MartijnVdSbut 12.04 and 12.10 (and upcoming 13.04) have better support for it19:33
directhexyou can install in 16-bit 8086 mode, too, if you force legacy-only boot in your firmware setup19:45
directhexi.e. no uefi support needed by os19:45
mungbeandoes lightread app still work?20:34
popeymungbean: did it ever?20:44
ali1234considering that it won first prize in the ubuntu app showdown i would hope so20:58
ali1234but then again looking at the list of judges...20:58
mungbeanused to work for me occasionally21:16
mungbeanah still sort of working21:16
mungbeanthought goog reader was gone away21:17
mungbeanlightread won a comp but bugs werent followed up21:17
mungbeanrunning 1.1.121:17
mungbeanlooks like a ppa might have newer one21:19
mungbeanthats better21:23
Lil-|^RedAnyone got any tasty treats off the Ubuntu Newsletter #312 ? http://bit.ly/11eIYhU23:56

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