[17:08] i've recently had this epiphany about phones and tablets... ill soon only buy android-based stuff from Google. i.e. my next phone will be the nexus 4 (assuming they dont upgrade to the "nexus 5" or something). [17:09] adom: what was this epiphany? [17:10] i have a GS3, which is one of if not the most popular Android phones out there, yet we still have to wait long periods of time before updates and upgrades are pushed to us. [17:10] Oh, You're going to just buy everything unlocked from Google, you mean? [17:10] I mis-read [17:11] yes. if you have a Google product, such as the Nexus line, you get updates immediately. also big projects such as Touch are geared toward Nexus products first because they are ground zero for Android development. [17:11] yup [17:12] that's why when I finally ditched my Palm Pre2/HP TouchPad, I decided to move to native Google [17:12] and as an added bonus, they dont come preloaded with T-Mobile/AT&T/Verizon bloatware crap that you can't install [17:12] they're just pure Android [17:12] * marcoceppi nods [17:12] Palm to Google must've been a big switch [17:13] anything you miss about Palm or hate about Google? [17:13] it was drastic to say the least [17:13] I love'd the WebOS workflow [17:13] I still do, I just have to learn to adapt [17:14] Multi-tasking, no java, UI, ease of app development [17:15] i see [17:15] i havent done any phone/tablet development [yet] so i dont know the constraints you have to deal with [17:15] Well, I'm not a Java programmer so I'm really not going to write apps for Android [17:16] I wrote apps for the WebOS platform because their app market place was severely lacking [17:17] i'd like to a few simple ideas i have for android into app form in some way [17:17] but its just one of those "if i have the spare time maybe i'll dabble" things that we never get around to [18:01] I had a Palm Pre. I loved it but their marketing department was full of fail. What a shame. [18:01] They didn't even gracefully carry PalmOS apps forward.