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Squirmmorning people05:52
magespawngood morning 05:55
magespawnhey Squirm 05:55
Kilosmorning drubin_ and others06:23
Kiloswb drubin_ are you well?06:23
Kilosaw stupid konversation taking minutes to show who is awawy06:24
Kiloshi whoever else is here06:24
Squirmhello Kilos06:38
Squirmdoes anybody know how I can mount an ntfs partition within an image I made using dd? I know the start and end of the partition06:39
Kiloshiya maiatoday 06:48
maiatodayhi Kilos06:49
inetprogood mornings07:00
inetproKilos: eish, ek sukkel vanoggend met 8ta07:01
Squirmusing dd and skip07:02
Kilosbell hulle en kerm inetpro 07:02
inetprolooks like Telkom/8ta is either having problems or they are making massive changes07:02
inetprocan not login to recharge my account07:02
Kilosthey were talking about going lts or something like that07:03
inetproeven USSD seems down, at least earlier this morning when I tried07:03
Kilosdidnt you read what mage said a few days back07:03
inetproKilos: no07:03
Kilossomething about them going live07:03
inetproyou guys where talking more than I could take in 07:03
Kilosmagespawn: hi tell the pro07:03
Kilosmagespawn: ping07:04
inetproKilos: no worries, have work to do now anyway07:04
Kiloshe knows the whole story, but is you fone and talk to a data tech he will try help you07:04
inetproKilos: please check whether you can login to check your balance07:04
Kilosill get mage to post a link07:05
Kilosok sec07:05
Kilosyes i can 07:06
Kilosusing prepaid manager applet i think it is called07:06
Kilosshows airtime balance not data balance07:06
Kilosinetpro: ^^07:06
Kilosneed to put sim in fone for data balance07:07
inetproKilos: when you have a chance, please check... but no rush07:09
inetproI could not even check with the sim in phone earlier07:09
inetproI can not even login07:10
Kilosi will do it now07:10
Kilos-yes inetpro iget replies from *188#07:15
* Kilos- cries about the wires 2g special i cant use07:16
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inetproKilos: you can07:20
Kilosyessir inetpro 07:20
inetproyou just have to visit McDonalds07:20
inetproor many of the other outlets07:20
Kilosi dont have wireless hardware on pc07:20
HawkiesZAinetpro, I checked my balance this morning from my phone and I can log in to the site :/07:21
HawkiesZAAnd the site shows all  my balances07:21
inetproguess I will have to troubleshoot later this evening07:22
HawkiesZAHave you tried turning it off and back on again?07:23
* HawkiesZA runs away07:23
inetproHawkiesZA: I have07:23
tonberryE352have you tried percussive maintenance?07:23
HawkiesZAThat was my next suggestion too07:23
inetpropercussive maintenance?07:23
Kiloswhats that07:23
tonberryE352hit it until it starts working07:23
Kilosoh hit with hammer07:23
HawkiesZASee how it bounces07:24
tonberryE352the scary thing is it occasionally works07:24
tonberryE352usually a bad solder joint somewhere07:25
Kilosjust put the sim in a fone and check balances then put back in modem07:25
* Kilos waits for i have07:25
Kilosor ai!07:25
HawkiesZAI put the SIM in the phone and use the phone as a hotspot :D07:25
HawkiesZABut I also have more phones than sense07:26
tonberryE352was it in a modem or some form of router? If you are really bored you could code something to scrape the ussd menus07:27
Kiloswe need to give suggestions when he is home by the pc again, or he will forget07:30
Kilosold age you know07:30
* Kilos ducks07:31
SquirmHawkiesZA: you can send one of your Android powered smartphones07:33
Squirmit'll level out the phones/sense07:33
inetprosorry guys07:37
* inetpro busy trying to get some work donw07:37
inetprodone as well07:37
inetproI think my account must be locked or something like that07:37
inetproI sent an email to social@8ta.com07:38
trenderevenin :)07:40
Kiloshi trender 07:44
* inetpro needs to make time to purchase the 10+1007:45
inetpro2+1 is just not enough for me anymore07:45
tonberryE352get the 60+6007:45
trenderyou guys talking in code :) ?07:46
inetprotonberryE352: no, that only gives you 5MB per month07:46
tonberryE3525gb is plenty07:46
tonberryE352and another 5 at night07:46
inetproeven 5 is not enough for me07:46
tonberryE352use it up in 6 months07:47
tonberryE352buy another07:47
tonberryE352or if you are torrent crazy go for the cellc 50+15007:47
tonberryE352about the same price07:48
trenderjust get a wifi telescope and lick some hotspots :)07:48
tonberryE352wifi has its limits...07:49
trenderso get a few telescopes and bridge them then :)07:49
tonberryE352the internet bundles get cheaper07:50
tonberryE352good wifi antennas cost money07:50
trenderyea but the savings are great in the long run :)07:50
tonberryE352depends on if the bundles get cheaper in a few years or not07:51
trenderespecially if you live in stupidville near 20 coffee shops07:51
magespawnKilos: pong07:58
Kilosohi magespawn can you give that info on 8ta going live for the pro please07:59
Kilosor telkom08:00
Kiloshe says you talk so much he hasnt got time to scroll back so far08:01
inetproKilos: it's not magespawn who talks so much08:02
Kilosoops you saw that08:02
magespawnwas just about telkom going live with their LTE network, something like a 1000 base stations would have it, but i forget the date08:02
Kiloswas april i think you said08:03
magespawnyes just cannot recall the exact date08:05
Kilosnp ty magespawn 08:10
HawkiesZAMaaz, It doesn't work08:28
MaazLook buddy, doesn't work is an ambiguous statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Does it waste its time on IRC all day long? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing.08:28
HawkiesZAThank you, Maaz08:28
MaazHawkiesZA: Okay :-)08:28
inetproMaaz: HawkiesZA ++ [I like it]08:33
magespawnwhat happens if you define "it"?08:37
magespawnMaaz define it08:37
Maazmagespawn: It \It\ ([i^]t), pron. [OE. it, hit, AS. hit; cf. D. het. [root]181. See {He}.] The neuter pronoun of the third person, corresponding to the masculine pronoun he and the feminine she, and having the same plural (they, their or theirs, them). [1913 Webster]  Note: The possessive form its is modern, being rarely found in the writings of Shakespeare and08:37
MaazMilton, and not at all in the original King James's version of the Bible. During the transit…08:37
magespawnwhat is the best mirror to use while the one at tenet is down?09:24
trender!seen xyz 09:28
trendermaaz: help09:29
Maaztrender: I can help you with: looking things up, remembering things, delivering messages, decisions, games, monitoring things, browsing the internet, conversions, silly fun stuff, calculations, system administration, software development and south african stuff.09:29
MaazAsk me "help me with ..." for more details.09:29
trendermaaz: help with monitoring things09:29
Maaztrender: I use the following features for monitoring things: coffee, http, icecast, meeting and ping09:29
MaazAsk me "how do I use ..." for more details.09:29
trendermaaz: define mask09:36
Maaztrender: Mask \Mask\ (m[.a]sk), n. [F. masque, LL. masca, mascha, mascus; cf. Sp. & Pg. m['a]scara, It. maschera; all fr. Ar. maskharat buffoon, fool, pleasantry, anything ridiculous or mirthful, fr. sakhira to ridicule, to laugh at. Cf. {Masque}, {Masquerade}.] 1. A cover, or partial cover, for the face, used for disguise or protection; as, a dancer's mask; a09:36
Maazfencer's mask; a ball player's mask. [1913 Webster]  2. That which disguises; a pretext or su…09:36
trendermaaz: define benefactor09:36
Maaztrender: Benefactor \Ben`e*fac"tor\,n. [L.] One who confers a benefit or benefits. --Bacon. [1913 Webster], benefactor n 1: a person who helps people or institutions (especially with financial help) [syn: {benefactor}, {helper}]09:36
trendermaaz: define cancer09:38
Maaztrender: Sign \Sign\, n. [F. signe, L. signum; cf. AS. segen, segn, a sign, standard, banner, also fr. L. signum. Cf. {Ensign}, {Resign}, {Seal} a stamp, {Signal}, {Signet}.] That by which anything is made known or represented; that which furnishes evidence; a mark; a token; an indication; a proof. Specifically: (a) A remarkable event, considered by the ancients as09:38
Maazindicating the will of some deity; a prodigy; an omen. (b) An event considered by the Je…09:38
trendermaaz: define sign09:38
Maaztrender: Sign \Sign\, n. [F. signe, L. signum; cf. AS. segen, segn, a sign, standard, banner, also fr. L. signum. Cf. {Ensign}, {Resign}, {Seal} a stamp, {Signal}, {Signet}.] That by which anything is made known or represented; that which furnishes evidence; a mark; a token; an indication; a proof. Specifically: (a) A remarkable event, considered by the ancients as09:38
Maazindicating the will of some deity; a prodigy; an omen. (b) An event considered by the Je…09:38
trendermaaz: define cancer09:39
Maaztrender: Sign \Sign\, n. [F. signe, L. signum; cf. AS. segen, segn, a sign, standard, banner, also fr. L. signum. Cf. {Ensign}, {Resign}, {Seal} a stamp, {Signal}, {Signet}.] That by which anything is made known or represented; that which furnishes evidence; a mark; a token; an indication; a proof. Specifically: (a) A remarkable event, considered by the ancients as09:39
Maazindicating the will of some deity; a prodigy; an omen. (b) An event considered by the Je…09:39
trendermaaz: define kernel09:41
Maaztrender: Kernel \Ker"nel\, n. [OE. kernel, kirnel, curnel, AS. cyrnel, fr. corn grain. See {Corn}, and cf. {Kern} to harden.] 1. The essential part of a seed; all that is within the seed walls; the edible substance contained in the shell of a nut; hence, anything included in a shell, husk, or integument; as, the kernel of a nut. See Illust. of {Endocarp}. [191309:41
MaazWebster]  'A were as good crack a fusty nut with no kernel --Shak. [1913 Webster]  2. A sing…09:41
trenderanybody here ?09:41
trenderanyone alive ??09:41
Squirmpeople are here09:42
Squirmthey just work too09:42
magespawnyup am here09:42
trenderhow do you define the linux kernel ?09:42
SquirmMaaz: google test09:42
trenderis it just some os commands ?09:42
MaazSquirm: "Create Tests for Organizational Training and Certification Programs ..." http://www.test.com/ :: "Speedtest.net - The Global Broadband Speed Test" http://www.speedtest.net/ :: "Test - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Test :: "Personality test based on C. Jung and I. Briggs Myers type theory" http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-09:42
Maazwin/jtypes2.asp :: "Speakeasy Speed Test" http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/ :: "Test your …09:42
SquirmMaaz: google define: kernel09:42
MaazSquirm: "Kernel (computing) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kernel_(computing) :: "Kernel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kernel :: "The Linux Kernel Archives" https://www.kernel.org/ :: "What is kernel? - A Word Definition From the Webopedia Computer ..." http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/K/kernel.html09:42
Maaz:: "Kernel - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary" http://www.mer…09:42
magespawnit is the central part of the os09:43
Squirmtrender: afaik, a kernel is really what interfaces between your OS and your hardware09:43
trenderi was hoping for a simpler explination :)09:44
magespawnin what sort of way?09:45
trenderlike the kernel is a group of files or a TSR09:46
HawkiesZAhttp://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kernel_(computer_science) ?09:46
trenderim just trying to get the full clear simple picture09:46
HawkiesZAAnd then: http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_kernel09:46
magespawnwhat is the best mirror to use while the one at tenet is down?09:47
SquirmI seem to be able to access it09:57
Squirmalthough it has reduced a lot09:57
magespawnSquirm: my updates seem to fail10:16
Squirmnot sure magespawn10:18
magespawnah well scroll back time then, i think somebody metioned it last night10:18
SquirmI can access it on http://mirror.ac.za Haven't tried an update10:19
Squirmchrome is using 30Mb-600Mb per tab10:22
Squirmand I have a lot of tabs open10:22
HawkiesZAkill it with fire10:23
trenderhighvoltage gday10:26
Kilosmagespawn: use the uct one10:31
Kilossec i find it10:31
Kiloshad to type that couldnt copy paste from muon10:34
Kiloshi zeref 10:35
zerefhi Kilos 10:35
Kilosdid you get that magespawn ?10:36
magespawnyup thanks10:37
Kilosi used it last night and got 250kB/s10:37
Kilosup and down around there10:37
trenderis that good speed10:41
trenderKB or kb10:42
Kiloskilo byte10:49
Kilossmall b is bits10:50
Symmetriadid they break the quagga package 13:05
Symmetriain precise?13:05
trenderSymmetria howdee13:06
Symmetrialo trender13:16
magespawnnow it is home time, later all14:48
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Kilosah georgelappies  the georgel is work pc?16:50
Kiloslo highvoltage 16:51
Kiloslong time no see16:51
georgelappieshi Kilos17:15
georgelappiesnope, Georgl is not me :)17:16
Kilosoh my we frightened him away17:20
highvoltagehey Kilos 17:25
Kiloseek here comes the snow already17:27
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nuvolarihi oom Kilos 18:10
Cantidehey nuvolari 18:11
Kiloslo nuvolari Cantide 18:11
CantideKilos, o/18:12
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Kiloshi Trix[a]r_za 18:13
nuvolariKilos: ek dink hy's nou weg oom :P18:17
nuvolaridaar's 'n sscript wat die eerste a 'n [a] maak18:18
nuvolarigoeiste, ek kan nie glo dis al woensdag nie18:18
Kilosoh is dit wat daar aangaan18:18
nuvolarijip, net so18:19
nuvolarioom Kilos, het tara al iets gehoor?18:19
Kilosja deerde18:19
Kilossy word oud lyk my18:19
nuvolariaw :(18:20
trenderanybody seen theblazehen ??18:36
trenderthat oke fell off the planet18:36
Kilosnope trender most likely working on something18:37
Kilosthey get busy at timew18:37
Kilostimes too18:37
trenderwhen is school holidays anyhow ?18:37
trenderi think he mentioned school hloiday18:37
trendersorry arg typos18:38
trenderbeen a heavy day mate18:38
trenderstill working at this hour18:38
magespawnevening all18:50
trenderevening mage18:51
Kiloshi magespawn 18:55
inetprogood evening19:04
Kiloshi ThatGraemeGuy 19:06
Kiloslo inetpro 8ta fixed?19:06
inetproKilos: yep, eventually19:06
inetprohad to reset my password19:06
Kiloswhat was the prob?19:07
Kilosoh my19:07
inetproobviously with the sim in the phone to be able to receive a code19:07
inetprostupid that they don't give you the option to send to another number19:07
Kilosthe password on the sim?19:08
inetproa sim in a router can not exactly receive an SMS message19:08
inetproKilos: no, on the 8ta self service site19:08
magespawnwhich router?19:08
magespawnsome of them can19:10
inetpromagespawn: Huawei E96019:11
drubin_Kilos: yp I am good :) how have you been19:11
Kilosgood ty drubin_ 19:12
drubin_good good19:12
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magespawnthe E3551 can recieve, maybe there is a way 19:12
magespawnlots of peeps here tonight, thats good19:14
inetpromagespawn: hmm... interestingly it looks possible, but19:14
inetprowould have to read the SMS messages after connecting via usb 19:15
magespawnyeah so kinda invalidates the point of a wireless router but there we go19:17
Kilosinetpro, install modem-manager-gui19:18
Kilosit shows modem smses19:19
Kilosmaybe it will work there19:19
inetproKilos: no it's not worth it19:19
inetproI'm not interested in SMS messages on that sim unless it's out of the ordinary like today19:20
magespawnyeah i get some wierd ones on my tablet19:23
Kilosnight all sleep tight19:36
Kiloshi superfly 19:37
Kilosnight superfly and all others19:37
trenderhrm anybody alive ???20:13
trenderdoes naybody know about compiling kernels ??20:13
Squirmyou didn't know what a kernel was this morning. Now you want to compile then20:21
SquirmI don't know, maybe it's just me. I haven't seen the code for the kernel and I've been using linux for a few years now :p20:22
Squirmanyway, bed for me. chat tomorrow20:23
trenderwell i need to ask mate i am an engineer im not looking at this from a users perspective20:23
trenderi hate to go down this road but sadly no choice really20:25
Tonberry_have a look at openembedded20:25
Tonberry_its a pain to get working but it does cross compile to almost anything20:25
trenderthanks Ton i think you know where im headed20:26
magespawnlets us know how it goes trender 20:27
trenderi just dont understand all the big words you okes use yet :)20:27
trenderbut the concepts i can get20:27
trenderyea i will get this right it will take me a week hard graft20:28
trenderwindows has made us lazy i need to excersize my mind again20:29
magespawnhelp is all around20:29
trenderyea but first you need to find the words before you know what to ask for :)20:30
magespawnyes learn the lingua franca20:31
trenderi was brought up on apple20:31
trenderin the early days20:31
trenderfirst machines we coded on in tech20:32
trenderappart from those spectrum 48k machines 20:32
trenderthats all there was in the begging for home users20:32
trenderthe Xt machine you could only use with special permission20:33
trendergosh long time20:33
magespawnos x is based on bsd a unix/linux variant20:33
trenderi like the idea of cubieboard now20:34
trenderim itching to make somethng usefull with it20:35
trendernever though id be opening this door it just hit me in the face20:36
magespawnah well, learning new things is good20:38
trenderit keeps you alive20:38
magespawni am off, good night all20:38
trendergnite mage20:38
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