[00:00] <Random832> what does it say if there isn't one
[00:00] <MestreLion> who, xdg-open?
[00:00] <Random832> yes
[00:00] <Random832> what does it actually do, on your system, if you run it on the same file that popped up the thing in nautilus
[00:01] <huhu> http://pastebin.com/2bDuqHjx, this is what it syas, dr_willis, yeats
[00:01] <sparkss> all I edited in menu.lst was the kernel line to point to a device rather than the uuid
[00:01] <MestreLion> Random832:  "gvfs-open: file:///home/rodrigo/wine/teste.mdb: error opening location: No application is registered as handling this file"
[00:01] <sparkss> and I can still boot in kernel 3.2
[00:01] <Random832> ah
[00:01] <harris> how do i make libreoffice look like microsoft office
[00:01] <Random832> i was wondering if maybe the nautilus thing worked by registering itself as a handler for */*
[00:02] <wilee-nilee> harris, I see nothing on the web other then icons.
[00:02] <sparkss> I dont understand
[00:02] <chaord> wilee-nilee: sorry for the delay, thanks much for the help!  no partial upgrades, got it ;)
[00:02] <harris> on the web?
[00:02] <MestreLion> Random832: while Nautilus goes a step further... it offers to search for "instalable" apps that can handle the file, and interacts with apt
[00:02] <she_dyed> sparkss: is /root or / on /dev/sdg1
[00:02] <wilee-nilee> chaord, Good, enjoy. ;)
[00:02] <Aww> harris, have a look at WPS Office
[00:03] <harris> Aww, i dont know how to make it english
[00:03] <MestreLion> Random832:  it finds a package whose .desktop file handles that mime-type and asks if the user whants to install such package
[00:03] <sparkss> its /
[00:03] <sparkss> UUID=b3e4d55e-d29a-4007-8238-fb65ac52846a / ext3 relatime,errors=remount-ro 0 1
[00:03] <sparkss> thats my fstab
[00:04] <MestreLion> Random832: which is a *very* clever and convenient behavior that I want to invoke programatically
[00:04] <Random832> hmm no ida
[00:04] <Random832> *idea
[00:04] <Aww> harris, try this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2121775
[00:04] <yeats> huhu: so you were using LVM before?  I'm confused
[00:04] <Aww> not sure if it will work, but worth a try
[00:04] <MestreLion> Does anyone?
[00:05] <sparkss> if I google this, I get around 30 pages of mixed results, but no one has solved the issue
[00:05] <MestreLion> Does anyone? I would like to know how to programatically invoke the same dialog that nautilus does when user double-clicks a file that has no handler installed
[00:06] <MestreLion> sparkss: menu.lst? ext3? Are you really running ubuntu?
[00:06] <huhu> yeats, yes. full disk encryption, messud up upgrade, messed. why is there no volume to mount?
[00:06] <Aww> harris, I just tried it, it works :)
[00:06] <harris> ok hopfully
[00:06] <sparkss> yes I am
[00:06] <sparkss> I only use ext3 for my main o/s
[00:06] <sparkss> ext4 for everything else
[00:07] <yeats> huhu: so you're on a 12.10 live CD and you're trying to rescue your data?
[00:07] <MestreLion> sparkss: and where is menu.lst coming from?
[00:07] <huhu> 11.10, yeats
[00:07] <sparkss> however, im trying to resize2fs an ext4 file system larger than 16TB
[00:07] <harris> why is the download take so long Aww
[00:07] <sparkss> and this is only do-able with kernel 3.7 and aboive
[00:07] <sparkss> menu.lst is coming from my /boot/grub/menu.lst
[00:07] <sparkss> on my system
[00:07] <yeats> huhu: ok, so have you installed lvm2 and cryptsetup already?
[00:07] <huhu> this the 1 i had,....yeats
[00:07] <MestreLion> sparkss: that is grub one, Ubuntu does not use since 2009
[00:07] <huhu> yes
[00:08] <Aww> harris, not sure, I think it only took a few seconds to download for me, but I have a pretty fast Internet connection
[00:08] <sparkss> well
[00:08] <sparkss> im running ubuntu 12.04 right now
[00:08] <sparkss> with kernel 3.2
[00:08] <sparkss> with grub1
[00:08] <harris> is there a terminal code Aww
[00:08] <FloodBot1> sparkss: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:08] <yeats> huhu: so what is the output of 'lvdisplay'?
[00:08] <sparkss> uname -a
[00:08] <sparkss> Linux homeserver.net 3.2.0-40-generic #64-Ubuntu SMP Mon Mar 25 21:22:10 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[00:08] <Aww> harris, terminal code for?
[00:08] <MestreLion> sparkss: which you installed and configuredyourself
[00:08] <harris> to install wps
[00:09] <sparkss> you really must think im a newbie lol, which I am not
[00:09] <Aww> harris, not sure
[00:09] <huhu> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo lvdisplay   No volume groups found, yeats
[00:09] <MestreLion> sparkss: I'm sure you are not. No newbie would be able to replace the default grub2 with grub one and still be able to make it run
[00:09] <bean> is the a crypted lvm you're trying to mount, sorry, just reading for first time.
[00:10] <sparkss> I started this ubuntu with 8.04
[00:10] <dr_willis> i cant even imageine why you would want grub1. ;) but im not paying attention.. im at work.
[00:10] <sparkss> and have upgraded each LTS revision
[00:10] <sparkss> which is why im still on grub1
[00:10] <sparkss> but I don't believe grub to be the problem
[00:10] <yeats> huhu: what is the output of 'sudo fdisk -l'?
[00:10] <tmus> MestreLion, from what I can see, xdg-open is the way to go - even from an app... Simply "system" it, or whatever works for your exact needs
[00:11] <MestreLion> sparkss: that is precisely my point... your system seems very different from the default for an IRC channel to be able to help you
[00:11] <harris> Aww, does this
[00:11] <wilee-nilee> harris, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/03/wps-office-for-linux-looks-like-microsoft-office-but-isnt
[00:11] <harris> wget -c wdl.cache.ijinshan.com/wps/download/Linux/unstable/wps-office_8.1.0.3724~b1p2_i386.deb
[00:11] <harris> thats what we are trying
[00:12] <tmus> MestreLion, If your're building a "gnome" app, have a look at g_app_info_launch_default_for_uri()
[00:12] <dr_willis> wilee-nilee:  makes me wonder what MS's legal dept thinks of that.
[00:12] <MestreLion> tmus: not. I use xdg-open a lot already. But it merely opens a file or not. It does not open a dialog offering to install packages that handle a file type
[00:12] <huhu> yeats thx, here: http://pastebin.com/tcZM9Fvm
[00:12] <Aww> harris, yeah thats were I got my copy
[00:13] <MestreLion> tmus: well, I'm using a mix of bash and python, so any metho of invoking that dialog in either language would be fine
[00:13] <wilee-nilee> dr_willis, Hehe yeah, seems like a waste of time, but I don't actually customize my setup with visual stuff much.
[00:13] <harris> where does this download to Aww
[00:13] <Aww> harris, depends on where you used the wget command
[00:13] <harris> terminal
[00:13] <dr_willis> yep... its a terminal command. ;)
[00:14] <Aww> harris, check your home folder
[00:14] <harris> ok
[00:14] <dr_willis> your terminal can be cd'd to anywhere you want harris  and it would download there...
[00:14] <yeats> huhu: try 'sudo mkdir /mnt/lv' then 'sudo mount /dev/mapper/MYTAG /mnt/lv'
[00:14] <MestreLion> tmus:  g_app_info_launch_default_for_uri() is the function that ends up being called when xdg-open is used... but it does not show any GUI dialog suggesting to install packages
[00:14] <she_dyed> sparkss: so stuck on device not found? hey try the grub command line
[00:16] <she_dyed> sparkss: if you make this work you're my hero
[00:16] <she_dyed> sandwich
[00:16] <MestreLion> tmus: I would like to know which method/component/plugin/whatever Nautilus uses to search apt package database and suggests packages for files that have no configured apps
[00:17] <MestreLion> I'm not sure if this is a Nautilus/Gnome thing or an Uuntu-only feature
[00:18] <tmus> MestreLion, right... Hmmm... looking around
[00:18] <huhu> yeats, thx, it *seemed to work, but how can I access it in nautilus?
[00:18] <yeats> huhu: try navigating to /mnt/lv
[00:19] <MestreLion> I think it is "session-installer"
[00:20] <huhu> yeats, ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ /mnt/lv bash: /mnt/lv: Is a directory
[00:21] <yeats> huhu: 'cd /mnt/lv'
[00:21] <MestreLion> tmus: or at least session-installer is a piece of the puzzle. it is the one that installs the selected package
[00:22] <Aww> harris, did you get it too work?
[00:22] <huhu> oops, of course yeats, thx, now i have the problem that my home directory is encrypted on top!^^
[00:23] <sparkss> she_dyed: what did you mean earlier, I was eating
[00:23] <yeats> huhu: does it not prompt you for the encryption password?
[00:23] <she_dyed> sparkss: so are you stuck on device not found? hey try the grub command line
[00:23] <she_dyed> the good thing about grub1
[00:23] <MestreLion> tmus: Random832: PackageKit!!!! :D
[00:23] <sparkss> yes, but its working with kernel 3.2, boots perfectly fine
[00:23] <she_dyed> uh huh
[00:24] <she_dyed> thats progress
[00:24] <tmus> MestreLion, that makes sense
[00:24] <sparkss> yeah, but this is where I have been at for close to 3 hours....
[00:24] <sparkss> usually updating a kernel is a 10 minute process
[00:24] <huhu> yeats, no. ubuntu@ubuntu:/mnt/lv/home$ cd XXX bash: cd: xdardovv: Permission denied
[00:25] <huhu> yeats, no. ubuntu@ubuntu:/mnt/lv/home$ cd XXX bash: cd: XXX: Permission denied
[00:25] <huhu> ^^
[00:25] <bean> huhu, become root and try, it's probably a permissions problem.
[00:29] <huhu> bean; ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo ecryptfs-mount-private ERROR: Encrypted private directory is not setup properly
[00:29] <gg__> can anyone link a guide on bitcoin mining for ubuntu?
[00:29] <gg__> a working guide? tried a few but failed with 404s
[00:29] <sparkss> gonna try grub2
[00:30] <gg__> er, specifically "E: Unable to locate package bitcoin"
[00:30] <gg__> anything I may be overlooking?
[00:30] <huhu> bean yeats, there is a readme, saying: THIS DIRECTORY HAS BEEN UNMOUNTED TO PROTECT YOUR DATA.  From the graphical desktop, click on:  "Access Your Private Data"  or  From the command line, run:  ecryptfs-mount-private
[00:31] <huhu> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo ecryptfs-mount-private ERROR: Encrypted private directory is not setup properly, yeats, bean
[00:32] <sparkss> ok, same issue with grub2 folks :/
[00:33] <dr_willis> so that sort of narrows it down to the kernel itself?
[00:33] <sparkss> I also tried kernel 3.8
[00:33] <sparkss> stable
[00:33] <sparkss> same issue there :/
[00:33] <dr_willis> about the only way i could think of to Prove that however.. would be to try a clean install (perhaps in virtualbox) and try to recreate the issue
[00:34] <sparkss> what are the chances that (2) stable kernel releases built/compiled and distrod on ubuntu.com are borked?
[00:34] <dr_willis> you said they came from a ppa i thouight
[00:35] <user0000001> hello...  i just installed ubuntu 12.04, and when installing, somehow the resolution was turned up high i think, some icons on the top right got really big, as did my mouse...  i have since finished installing, and restarted and am using ubuntu, but in certain applications the mouse icon is really big
[00:35] <sparkss> they are still stable kernels
[00:35] <user0000001> i dont know what it is
[00:35] <sparkss> according to kernel.org
[00:35] <huhu> yeats, bean : do you think this might help?
[00:35] <huhu> yeats, bean : do you think this might help?http://nerdbynature.de/s9y/?192
[00:35] <dr_willis> sparkss:  if they messed  up or frogot an option.. it would make sence...
[00:35] <dr_willis> sparkss:  or theres some config issue and its not the kernels..
[00:36] <sparkss> I mean, thousands of people are clearly having the same issue
[00:36] <sparkss> according to googles search indexing
[00:36] <dr_willis> ive compiled kernels in the past and messed up things befor.. the fact they are 'stable' dident matter.
[00:37] <dr_willis> basic trouble shooting  - is it a kernel issue.. or a non kernel issue..     how to test to prove one way or the other - would be the logical step
[00:37] <user0000001> ...including when i am in xchat and firefox, if i hover over a link the mouse icon gets HUGE
[00:37] <sparkss> hmm
[00:37] <yeats> huhu: I would probably try something like that, yeah
[00:38] <huhu> yeats, you sure?
[00:38] <wilee-nilee> user0000001, How about a screenshot in a imagebin.
[00:38] <sparkss> my head hurts
[00:38] <dr_willis> sparkss:  if thousands of people are having the same issue.. sounds like it may be a deeper issue then this channel may  be abble to handle.
[00:39] <dr_willis> I wonder if the kernel channel may  know more. it may be affeccting other disrtos also
[00:39] <yeats> huhu: this might help too: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1642790
[00:40] <sparkss> good point
[00:40] <user0000001> ok wilee-nilee
[00:40] <huhu> yeats, im on a live cd, those guys werent i think...
[00:41] <bean> huhu, i think this guy was: http://goshawknest.wordpress.com/2010/04/16/how-to-recover-crypted-home-directory-in-ubuntu/
[00:41] <user0000001> wilee-nilee, it is hard to get the screenshot to show the mouse being big
[00:41] <yeats> huhu: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ubuntu-mounting-your-encrypted-home-from-livecd/
[00:43] <huhu> yeats, which one on the last link ... too confiused,., thx
[00:43] <wilee-nilee> user0000001, use the prtsc key I wonder if you do not have orca running it is a app for disabilities basically.
[00:44] <yeats> huhu: the link I just shared has you chroot into your previous system - I would probably try that method first
[00:45] <huhu> yeats: root@ubuntu:/# ecryptfs-mount-private ERROR: Encrypted private directory is not setup properly
[00:45] <yeats> huhu: try the instructions at that link
[00:45] <user0000001> wilee-nilee, is there a terminal command to show all the apps running
[00:45] <user0000001> ?
[00:46] <huhu> all? tells about usb etc, yeats
[00:46] <wilee-nilee> user0000001, YOu can install htop and see everything and search for stuff and close as well among other tools
[00:46] <bean> huhu: the part about adding your user, and "su - username"
[00:46] <yeats> huhu: were you going to copy your data somewhere? if so, a USB is probably a good option if you have one
[00:47] <user0000001> wilee-nilee, i dont think i have orca running...  i just openned it, and then it was reading the screen, and then i hit quit
[00:47] <huhu> bean ,yeats, what script/link r u talking about exactly?
[00:47] <user0000001> i looked in  universal access as well
[00:47] <user0000001> :(
[00:48] <huhu> yeats, i have another hd to copy it
[00:48] <wilee-nilee> user0000001, This is not an area of expertise really, and I suspect without a visual sort of hard to track down, or a definitive description.
[00:48] <bean> huhu, i think this guy was: http://goshawknest.wordpress.com/2010/04/16/how-to-recover-crypted-home-directory-in-ubuntu/
[00:48] <yeats> huhu: ok, well, then no need for USB then, right?
[00:49] <huhu> yeats, yes, i will need one, cuz its anexternal hd
[00:49] <Kawobei_work> hey how get into a user account on Ubuntu touch developer preview on Nexus 10
[00:50] <huhu> bean what is "goshawk" there? just a random name?
[00:50] <Kawobei_work> there are accounts to use but all password protected
[00:50] <bean> your username on the hard drive
[00:50] <anguiish> Hey guys; would it be possible to modify unity's music dash previews to keep playing the rest of the song instead of just stoping when the user closes the dash?
[00:50] <goshawk> huhu,  ?
[00:50] <huhu> ok thnks bean
[00:50] <bean> huhu, your username on the hard drive, like that you used to log in with
[00:50] <goshawk> huhu, what the problem is
[00:50] <Crckh34d> why would u wanna do that>
[00:50] <huhu> yeats, yes, i will need an usb, cuz its anexternal hd where im going to rescue copy my stuff
[00:50] <Crckh34d> try JACK,
[00:51] <Crckh34d> with a 5.1 soundcard
[00:51] <yeats> huhu: ok
[00:51] <bean> huhu, okay, so follow those instructions.
[00:52] <user0000001> okay wilee-nilee , i am in dconf-editor...  can you please go in there and go to org>gnome>desktop>interface and tell me what value you have for cursor size?  mine is 48
[00:52] <user0000001> or someone else
[00:52] <huhu> bean, it says enter NEW unix pw
[00:52] <user0000001> ohh i just clicked set to default and it changed to 24
[00:52] <bean> correct, use the same password you had when it worked
[00:52] <user0000001> i bet that will do it!!!!!
[00:52] <user0000001> this must be a bug
[00:53] <bazhang> !touch | Kawobei_work
[00:53] <user0000001> but the problem is fixed!!!!!!
[00:53] <user0000001> yay
[00:53] <sparkss> ok, I just noticed something
[00:54] <sparkss> the grub config appears to be right, however, when its booting, I noticed that the UUID has changed ( just a tiny bit)
[00:54] <huhu> nean, thx, now it says, Enter the new value, or press ENTER for the default, really dunno if im comprehending this fully, dont wanna mess it up..
[00:54] <sparkss> not sure if this is normal
[00:54] <huhu> bean, thx, now it says, Enter the new value, or press ENTER for the default, really dunno if im comprehending this fully, dont wanna mess it up..
[00:54] <bean> just hit enter all the way through
[00:55] <huhu> bean, sure? (thx)
[00:55] <wilee-nilee> user0000001, I don't have that installed, honestly you are better talking to the channel.
[00:55] <bean> huhu, yeah, just hit til you're back at a prompt
[00:56] <sparkss> changing to /dev/sdg1 didnt work
[00:56] <sparkss> :(
[00:57] <Rb26> hello World! I need help trying to install XFREE86 scalable fonts?
[00:57] <Kawobei_work> bazhang: which account does that password work for
[00:58] <huhu> bean: 	Full Name []:  	Room Number []:  	Work Phone []:  	Home Phone []:  	Other []:  Is the information correct? [Y/n] y root@ubuntu:/# /home/xdardovv# su xdardovv bash: /home/xdardovv#: No such file or directory root@ubuntu:/# cd home/xdardovv bash: cd: home/xdardovv: No such file or directory root@ubuntu:/# ecryptfs-mount-private ERROR: Encrypted private directory is not setup properly root@ubuntu:/#
[00:58] <bazhang> Kawobei_work, use the #ubuntu-touch channel for support please
[00:58] <Kawobei_work> ok, no one talking in there at all
[00:58] <Runemoro> It's taking a VERY long time to install linux-headers packages with dpkg -i
[00:58] <bean> huhu, can you please pastebin that stuff instead?
[00:58] <bazhang> Kawobei_work, so be patient
[00:59] <Kawobei_work> you know finally got it on, all excited
[00:59] <huhu> sure bean w8
[00:59] <harris> Aww, it just got done downloading sorry went out to work on shot put
[00:59] <Aww> Ah, Okay
[00:59] <Runemoro> !!! It just Ctrl-C'd by it's self!
[01:00] <huhu> bean, http://pastebin.com/V0jZtpsa
[01:00] <harris> what do i do now the first code says no file or directory
[01:00] <Aww> harris, you installed it right?
[01:00] <Rb26> Hi!  I need to install xfre86 scalable fonts in ubuntu.  I use a software called Hyperworks. I need to use the scalable fonts because the current  GUI fonts makes it almost impossible to use it. Help Anyone?
[01:01] <harris> downloaded the deb
[01:01] <bean> huhu try "su - xdardovv"
[01:01] <bean> it should put you on a prompt
[01:01] <Aww> harris, yeah now you need to install it
[01:01] <harris> how
[01:01] <Aww> just double click it and Ubuntu Software Center should open
[01:02] <huhu> bean, thx, just had the same "idea" just without the hyphen
[01:02] <sparkss> why can I not figure this out people!
[01:02] <Aww> or in whatever package manger you have
[01:02] <bean> huhu: did that give you a prompt?
[01:02] <huhu> bean, nope
[01:02] <huhu> root@ubuntu:/# su xdardovv xdardovv@ubuntu:/$ ecryptfs-mount-private ERROR: Encrypted private directory is not setup properly
[01:02] <junkNown> Ohhh boy. I just installed steam for ubuntu. Now unity will not launch after I rebooted. How can I fix this?
[01:03] <huhu> bean: root@ubuntu:/# su xdardovv xdardovv@ubuntu:/$ ecryptfs-mount-private ERROR: Encrypted private directory is not setup properly
[01:03] <bean> huhu sudo ecryptfs-mount-private
[01:04] <huhu> bean xdardovv@ubuntu:/$ sudo ecryptfs-mount-private [sudo] password for xdardovv:  xdardovv is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.,,,strange message!
[01:06] <jdelgado> @huhu you tried to execute sudo on a user without sudo privileges
[01:06] <bean> oh, huhu, lets add your user to sudoers, type exit, and get back to the root prompt, then type "sudo adduser <username> sudo"
[01:07] <dysto> hello, I am trying to strip down ubuntu 10.04.4 to make a bootable flashdrive to run armory bitcoin wallet from, and have made it to the point of chrooting into the extracted squashfs.. now I can't purge packages with aptitude..
[01:08] <junkNown> Is it possible Unity would have broken because steam tried to install drivers for the built in graphics in my i7 2600k?
[01:08] <huhu> bean: "root prompt" is where im @ root@ubuntu?
[01:08] <[snake]> Hello, I accidentally updated my linux kernel to version 3.8.7 and now everything is squished(my display I mean) and my Additional Drivers has A LOT of extra drivers and everything. basically, I need to know if I can change it back, please and thankyou.
[01:08] <bean> huhu, yep "adduser username sudo"
[01:09] <dysto> I get " dpkg: warning: 'ldconfig' not found on PATH. "
[01:09] <dr_willis> dysto:  look for where ldconfig is at and add it to your  PATH perhaps?
[01:10] <passerine> junkNown, no idea but once installed some lib without noticing that it would remove something for me, until the next day when I started up to a black screen, and had to boot the DVD, mount and found the cause in /var/log/apt.
[01:10] <dysto> dr_willis: how do I computer? lol
[01:10] <huhu> bean: http://pastebin.com/r0tNqMC1
[01:11] <bean> huhu, sudo ecryptfs-mount-private
[01:11] <huhu> bean: same: xdardovv@ubuntu:/$ sudo ecryptfs-mount-private [sudo] password for xdardovv:  ERROR: Encrypted private directory is not setup properly xdardovv@ubuntu:/$
[01:11] <junkNown> It's weird, I can open terminal, and other things from terminal. But can't resize windows, no unity interface, can't move windows.
[01:12] <dysto> dr_willis: seriously, how do I add things to PATH.. and where is it?
[01:13] <bean> huhu, try sudo ecryptfs-recover-private
[01:13] <dr_willis> dysto:  err.. you  are doing this project and you dont know the basics of the shell?
[01:13] <dr_willis> export PATH=$PATH;/add/other/dir
[01:13] <bean> its a : not a ;
[01:14] <[snake]> lol, my resolution is 1600x1200 but my actual monitor's resolution is 1368x768
[01:14] <huhu> bean : THX, semms to work now, still loading, THXTHXTHX! :sudo ecryptfs-recover-private INFO: Searching for encrypted private directories (this might take a while)...
[01:14] <dr_willis> junkNown:  that is a way  way to common issue.. and can happen for many reasons sadly
[01:14] <[snake]> it's displaying 1600x1200 I mean.
[01:14] <dysto> dr_willis: I know, I'm crazy. Thank you. :) is there a resource page where I can rtfm?
[01:14] <dr_willis> junkNown:  compiiz is crashing or failing for some reason its not seeing the 3d drivers. or somthing like that.. ive never seen a  general reason, or a standard fix
[01:15] <dr_willis> dysto:  the bash abs and other docs are online.. at 10000's of sites
[01:15] <junkNown> :(
[01:15] <dr_willis> !abs
[01:15] <dysto> thank you so much. :D
[01:16] <[snake]> anyone can help me with my kernel? I have the old kernel still I think. It has a bunch of old versions, I just need help with knowing exactly what to do.
[01:16] <dr_willis> dysto:  you may  be beter off starting with the mini cd/install and adding what you need.
[01:16] <[snake]> cause of grub mostly I think
[01:16] <dr_willis> [snake]:  use the latest kernel that works.. and keep like one or 2 older ones for backup. just in case.
[01:16] <[snake]> dr_willis, I'll repost my original question for you to see.
[01:16] <[snake]> Hello, I accidentally updated my linux kernel to version 3.8.7 and now everything is squished(my display I mean) and my Additional Drivers has A LOT of extra drivers and everything. basically, I need to know if I can change it back, please and thankyou.
[01:17] <dr_willis> updated the kernel how?
[01:17] <dysto> dr_willis: I thought of that too, I will try that. I just need gnome and armory, and there is a zip for armory that has all it's dependencies and a script to install them all.
[01:17] <dr_willis> the kernel version shouldent be affecting whats shown in the 'addational drivers' tool as far as i know either.
[01:18] <dr_willis> dysto:  id just use lubuntu if its going to  be a sitting in the corner all day sort of machine.
[01:18] <huhu> bean, do you know what it exactly will do after this prompt? Try to recover this directory? [Y/n]:
[01:19] <[snake]> dr_willis, I am using the latest one from kernel.org. I compiled it according to the readme. apparently the last command I used out of the three actually installed it.
[01:19] <bean> huhu, it will try to read the dir
[01:19] <dr_willis> [snake]:  and why are you doing all this?
[01:19] <[snake]> let me take a photo of my additional drivers it used to only display my nvidia
[01:19] <dysto> dr_willis: I want to have it installed on a flash drive, but not as a live system. so I can boot from the flash drive from most any machine and do offline transactions. that way I don't need a dedicated machine, just the flash drive.
[01:19] <dr_willis> [snake]:  there some special feature of the  newer kernel you need?  there are ppa's for newer kernels i belive.. but ive never needed to mess with them
[01:19] <huhu> bean thx: INFO: Success!  Private data mounted read-only at [/tmp/ecryptfs.yNfwzWza].
[01:20] <dr_willis> dysto:  sounds like another reason to use lubuntu, instead of ubuntu . ;) smaller insrtall sizew
[01:20] <bean> huhu, nice!
[01:20] <junkNown> Well here is the last 2 things that apt installed, one of which made Unity break (i can still ctrl-alt-t to terminal an open programs). I'm running a Raedon HD6950 wit prop drivers (or at least before this), and I have an i2600k processor. http://pastebin.com/SJhMSHmW
[01:20] <[snake]> dr_willis, I did not expect it to install, I was just messing around haha. the point is that I need to change back to my old kernel.
[01:20] <huhu> bean wo can I thank you?
[01:20] <dr_willis> [snake]:  select the older kenrrels from the grub menu.
[01:21] <bean> huhu, *shrug*
[01:21] <dysto> dr:willis: right, I was going to use xubuntu. I like xfce. :) but I also don't want to have compatibility issues. I guess the only real difference is the interface? as long as I use 10.04, right?
[01:21] <huhu> bean *how
[01:21] <[snake]> dr_willis, oh. that's convenient.
[01:21] <bean> huhu, no need to.
[01:21] <[snake]> how do I get the grub menu?
[01:22] <[snake]> dr_willis, it doesn't really matter anymore, but here is that picture of my Additional Drivers: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=317b0bc&s=6 I'll google the grub thing
[01:23] <[snake]> thanks
[01:23] <[snake]> cya
[01:24] <dysto> dr_willis: my initial effort was to install ubuntu to the flashdrive, uninstall all the stuff I didn't need, install armory, update everything, then I dd the flashdrive partition to an img file, tried to write it back to the flashdrive, and no love. :(
[01:28] <huhu> bean, maybe a jke for u?
[01:29] <bean> huhu, that's alright
[01:30] <huhu> bean, another question: how can i find out whther i can intall the 64bit version of ubuntu12.04 on my hardware?
[01:30] <dejavue> huhu, what kind of processor do you have?
[01:31] <huhu> dejavue, sth like a 2.3 dual
[01:31] <huhu> ...ghz
[01:31] <bean> huhu, "cat /proc/cpuinfo" and pastebin it
[01:32] <dejavue> 2.3 ghz dual, but what kind of cpu chips?
[01:33] <huhu> bean, http://pastebin.com/KxfbfFh8
[01:33] <dejavue> huhu, amd athlon, athlon64, intel 64, etc etc
[01:33] <huhu> dejavue pentiumiii i guess
[01:33] <dejavue> pentium-3 can not run a 64-bit os
[01:34] <huhu> dejavue Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 3.00GHz
[01:34] <bean> pentium D
[01:34] <dejavue> yes then, you can run a 64 bit, probably
[01:34] <bean> you can.
[01:34] <bean> thats a 64 bit chip
[01:34] <huhu> dejavue, bean, already d/l the 12.04 64 bit live dvd, which doesnt boot
[01:35] <Brotox> who's pro in irc commands here ?
[01:35] <PartTimeLegend> Does anyone know of  ruby/c++ solution that publishes gpg public keys in a directory?
[01:35] <bean> huhu, what error does it give?
[01:35] <bean> Brotox, not really related to this channel
[01:35] <Brotox> i've kicked myself from my own channel, how can i get back as op ?
[01:35] <Brotox> :d
[01:36] <dejavue> huhu, some of intel's early 64-bit chips were not very compatible, that why I said "probably"
[01:36] <huhu> bean, no error, just didnt load it when i was trying to boot it, "no operating system " or sth,
[01:36] <PartTimeLegend> brotox /j #freenode
[01:36] <bean> Brotox, usually you'd have registered the channel with chanserv, and chanserv would op you.
[01:36] <jdelgado> @brotox go to your channel, then run /chanserv op #<your chan> brotox
[01:36] <huhu> dejavue. might be an early 1
[01:37] <Brotox> u rock jdelgado !!
[01:37] <Brotox> thanks
[01:37] <dejavue> huhu, you can try a 32-bit version, if it boots, that was the problem, if not then you have another problem
[01:38] <huhu> dejavue just figured out howto get rif of this problem, thx to bean and yeats
[01:38] <dejavue> huhu, 32 or 64 only matters if you have more than 4gb ram
[01:38] <jdelgado> @brotox No problem pal, glad to help.
[01:38] <huhu> dejavue, the 11.10 32bit just booted right afterwards (livecd)
[01:39] <dejavue> then that was the problem
[01:39] <huhu> dejavue, do u have a command to show this?
[01:39] <dejavue> show what?
[01:39] <huhu> my ram sizes
[01:40] <dejavue> it's in your dmesg output
[01:40] <bean> huhu "free -m"
[01:41] <huhu> bean dejavue, on live cd, dows it matter?
[01:41] <bean> no
[01:41] <cajun> i'm trying to install ubuntu on an older computer that isn't supporting CD install.  I did a net install from GRUB to install 12.10. However, when it loads after login, I don't get the GDM. I get the wallpaper and that's it. How can I fix this?
[01:41] <bean> cajun, how much ram does the older computer have
[01:42] <cajun> I honestly don't remember.
[01:42] <huhu> http://pastebin.com/FiRjGqhi bean dejavue
[01:42] <[snake]> cajun, if you use ctrl alt f1 you can access a terminal. if that doesn't load then your computer is working VERY hard to display more.
[01:42] <cajun> It used to run 9.04 just fine until I somehow messed up up during an upgrade to 9.10
[01:42] <huhu> bean dejavue, so no more than 4 gb...
[01:42] <dr_willis> cajun:   also whats the video  card. theres common issue/problem where compiz/unity dosent fully load due to driver issues. but a differnt desktop like Lubuntu may work fine
[01:42] <bean> huhu, yep, 3.2 GB
[01:43] <dr_willis> cajun:  if its a lower end machine. Lubuntu may be a better desktop to use anyway. You can install it via 'sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop;
[01:43] <cajun> i'll give that a try.  The video card is a GEForce.  Not positive of further details on it. It's probably 10 yrs old or so.
[01:43] <dr_willis> cajun:  i via 'sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop'
[01:43] <huhu> bean dejavue so a 64 bit installation is not worth it? i mean, not worth  a try?
[01:43] <dr_willis> 10 yrs old? id definatly be using lubuntu
[01:43] <bean> huhu, not really
[01:44] <huhu> bean, ok. thoght i might be faster than using the pae kernel...
[01:44] <[snake]> dr_willis, would you know if ubuntu has a config file for the kernel that I could use -oldconfig when compiling with?
[01:44] <bean> huhu, no
[01:44] <dejavue> huhu, 64-bit only matters at all if you have more than 4gb ram. If you have more 4gb and you try to use 32-bit you will either not see all the memory or sometimes crash instantly
[01:45] <androidfr33k> I have to use 64 bit to build android roms  jeally bean (jb) needs to be built in 64 bit environment
[01:45] <cajun> i got the terminal window
[01:45] <bean> androidfr33k, likely
[01:46] <DummyBook> hello
[01:46] <dr_willis> [snake]:  no  idea. ive not needed to mess with the kernel in years. i think there is some  /proc/file that shows what confoig  was used for the currently running kernel
[01:46] <DummyBook> where is the decaut download folder on ubutu?
[01:46] <DummyBook> defualt
[01:46] <dejavue> you can't just cross compile with 64 bit libraries?
[01:46] <dr_willis> but ive  not seen/looked for it in ages
[01:46] <androidfr33k> Dont always go by memory
[01:46] <KatsumeBlisk> DummyBook: your home directory
[01:46] <[snake]> cajun, oh that's good. I wonder if there is a text install mode. though you might rather get the lubuntu live cd image. you're in a live cd right?
[01:46] <KatsumeBlisk> DummyBook: so Downloads in your home directory.
[01:46] <DummyBook> KatsumeBlisk: thank you, for some reason mine was "hidden"
[01:46] <androidfr33k> You have to have 64 bit install
[01:47] <xMopxShell> Hi - how can I add secondary or more IPs to eth0 in the /etc/network/interfaces file? To get the same result as running `ip addr add 192.168.10.10 dev eth0`
[01:47] <bean> xMopxShell, same way, but eth0:1 as the name of the interface.
[01:47] <cajun> nope.  i can run the ubuntu 9.10 live  cd, but it just won't install. it will run in the special graphics mode though
[01:48] <xMopxShell> bean: that's a different (depreciated) method.
[01:48] <dejavue> then I stand corrected, huhu, if you are planning on compiling android roms, you need 64 bit
[01:48] <bean> xMopxShell, not that i'm aware of?
[01:48] <[snake]> cajun, oh ok. then as dr_willis said. use sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop to get the lubuntu desktop. idk why I thought you were in live cd???
[01:48] <cajun> lubuntu installing now.  the term window is on ubuntu 12.10 full installation
[01:48] <huhu> dejavue, nope , evn dunno ehat they do
[01:48] <cajun> it's ok snake
[01:48] <[snake]> ok cool :)
[01:49] <[snake]> :P
[01:49] <cajun> still installing...no errors
[01:49] <[snake]> yep, that might take a bit of time cajun
[01:50] <dejavue> huhu, if it won't boot 64, the choice is made for you
[01:50] <huhu> deajvue, thx
[01:51] <huhu> is a live cd going to hibernate after a certain time?
[01:51] <cajun> i used the livecd to get the files onto the computer so that I could perform the net install. The really strange thing is that despite burning the CD at the lowest speed, the old PC just wouldn't accept it. The "official" 9.10 live CD is accepted. I'm just so confused by all that. At least I'm getting something now. Thanks to the help of this channel.
[01:51] <ai9371> someone please help flash player not working
[01:52] <ai9371> on ubuntu 12.04 LTS server
[01:52] <[snake]> cajun, glad to hear that we could help you :D
[01:52] <[snake]> ai9371, did you install the restricted extras?
[01:52] <HoNgOuRu> how do I format a hdd ??
[01:52] <HoNgOuRu> help
[01:52] <ai9371> [snake] yeah i did that
[01:52] <ai9371> still no working!
[01:52] <ai9371> please help!
[01:52] <[snake]> ai9371, go to adobe's site I guess.
[01:52] <ai9371> i did that and i Downloaded 11.2
[01:53] <[snake]> ai9371, did you reboot?
[01:53] <ai9371> it just takes me to package manager where it is already installed
[01:53] <ai9371> yes i rebooted
[01:53] <[snake]> ai9371, how many times?
[01:53] <sheldor> is there a way to edit the Network Manager Wifi connections (the password namely) in the console direclty? (without wpa_supplicant)
[01:54] <[snake]> HoNgOuRu, I like using cfdisk myself. idk if it's available with apt-get. but most users might just use disk utility
[01:55] <[snake]> HoNgOuRu, do you know how to open disk utility?
[01:56] <huhu> alright, dejavu, bean, dr_willis, yeats, thx for helping me out. time is running. 4 am am gotta be up in 3h. hope the live cd system wont suspend the session when i meet the Zs
[02:05] <cajun> will i be able to use this old computer to watch online videos from hulu and netflix once lubuntu is installed?
[02:06] <bean> cajun, hulu yes (probably), netflix is a bit more complicated.
[02:07] <bean> !netflix | cajun
[02:08] <cajun> thx bean.
[02:10] <sheldor> guys
[02:10] <sheldor> how can i get e4fsprogs
[02:10] <sheldor> its not in the repos
[02:11] <dr_willis> !find e4fsprogs
[02:11] <dr_willis> perhaps its under a similer name
[02:12] <a_b0y> is ubuntu optimized for touch screen?
[02:12] <dr_willis> !find e4fsck
[02:12] <bean> e2fsprogs probably
[02:12] <bean> !find e2fsprogs
[02:12] <bean> !info e2fsprogs
[02:12] <dr_willis> google hits for e4fsprogs show its a package for redhat. that has various extg4 tools. and names so  not go conflicet with the ext2 tools
[02:13] <bean> e2fsprogs has all the utils
[02:13] <dr_willis> i see no mentionof any such package on ubuntu or debian
[02:13] <dr_willis> bean:  makes sence to me. ;)
[02:13] <dr_willis> a_b0y:  the unity desktop is designed with touch screens/tablets in mind. no idea how well it actually works on such devices
[02:14] <Jpmh> a_b0y: I produce and maintain a Point of Sale system that uses touch screens and un modified Ubuntu and works VERY WELL
[02:15] <dr_willis> sheldor:  http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/linux/kernel/1036930        gives the answer.. :) it dont exist on ubuntu. use the e2* package
[02:15] <Jpmh> a_b0y: and dr_willis  while it is claimed that unity is optimized for touch screens it does not work as well as standard Gnome with multi-touch
[02:16] <dr_willis> only  touch screen os i use is android. ;)
[02:16] <cajun> thx bean and mr_willis. i'm in now. :)
[02:16] <Jpmh> a_b0y: what do you want to do with a touch screen?
[02:19] <quem> "He who has diarrhea knows the direction of the door without being told." -- Ugandan proverb
[02:21] <BHXSpecter> my system starting acting up and now my system related icons won't show in the launcher...Home folder, terminal, workspaces, trash can, etc are just blank spots on my launcher => http://twitpic.com/cjvs2k/full
[02:23] <dr_willis> BHXSpecter:  try changeing icon themes, then changeing  the theme back perhaps.. could be the icon cache is messed up. ive seen that happen ages ago. but im not sure how to f ix it these days
[02:23] <BHXSpecter> okay I will try that :)
[02:25] <bloodydad> REGISTER 1988519 aramisw@126.com
[02:25] <BHXSpecter> that fixed it
[02:26] <BHXSpecter> was worried it was something worse heh
[02:26] <dr_willis> icon cache would be my guess.
[02:27] <dr_willis> bloodydad:  :) you may  want to query the servicce bots
[02:28] <BHXSpecter> yeah, apparently the Oxygen-gtk theme was causing a crash to occur
[02:28] <BHXSpecter> was bad enough that terminal was even freezing it......just replicated the affect...changed it to Radiance and it fixed it
[02:31] <dr_willis> thats odd.
[02:32] <dr_willis> i tend to use some of the themes from the Webupd8 blog sites ppa
[02:32] <dr_willis> they tend to keep the 'best looking' ones :) dont have to filter through all the poor themes out there
[02:33] <texla> 12.04 After updating using update manager I get manager closed unexpectly ??
[02:34] <dr_willis> try from the terminal - see  if 'sudo apt-get update' and 'sudo apt-get upgrade' give any clearer messages
[02:35] <Guest99959> great
[02:38] <texla> dr_willis, both update and upgrade ran normally
[02:40] <dr_willis> of course now - update manager has nothing to do. ;) so its going tobe hard to see if it crashes now
[02:42] <mote> hi, I'm going to fresh install a laptop by april 19, which version am I going to use? 13.04beta or 12.04? I can't wait till 13.04 release since I need to have a new development machine by that date.
[02:43] <she_dyed> try it out live, see if wireless works,etc
[02:44] <she_dyed> mote  just to make sure all the pieces work
[02:44] <mote> I still plan to use 13.04, im just worried I may have 2 versions of packages install when I upgraded to 13.04
[02:45] <she_dyed> well some people already have the work-in-progress 13.04, just keep updating
[02:46] <she_dyed> so that when it does come out, you have it up and running
[02:46] <she_dyed> k, shower time, cya
[02:46] <mote> if there's no date involve, I would patiently wait till the release. :(
[02:46] <mote> thanks she_dyed !
[02:47] <she_dyed> you're welcome, there's a chatroom for those early adopters
[02:47] <she_dyed> !raring > mote
[02:48] <nevyn> mote: you missed 12.10 as an option ;)
[02:50] <mote> nevyn, it would be just the same with 12.04 since I'm planning to use 13.04 when it will be released. the thing is april 19, 13.04 is not released yet.
[02:51] <Barrylocke> just how involved is the upgrade process from 12.10 to 13.xx?
[02:51] <Barrylocke> ie for me as a user?
[02:53] <b33r> Hi is 13.04 release candidate available for update now?
[02:55] <guestt> hi,   can anyone tell me how to save the audio track from a vidio file ?
[02:56] <zykotick9> guestt: i'm a fan of "mplayer -vo null -ao pcm foo.video" which will create a WAV dump of the video.
[02:57] <guestt> zykotick9  then redirrect the output to a file ?
[02:58] <zykotick9> guestt: it does that automatically
[02:58] <guestt> or is null the filename
[02:58] <guestt> ok
[02:58] <zykotick9> guestt: "-vo null" means, don't bother with video output
[03:04] <scjr> Hey I'm having some linux-general-pae depependancy problems (stemming from not having enough space to configure a new kernel I think) anyone know any easy fixes? - http://pastebin.com/1mdfP10j
[03:04] <KxTwo> Anyone good with Big O
[03:05] <guestt> zykotick9  looks like the output will be bigger than the input     is that normal?
[03:06] <zykotick9> guestt: possibly, WAV is uncompressed audio.  after it's finished you can encode it to something else.
[03:07] <guestt> k thanks.   very helpful.  :)
[03:10] <ai9371> can someone help me with installed flash player tar.gz
[03:10] <ai9371> where do i copy the usr folder to>
[03:13] <AcidRain> whats that software called that handles cron jobs?
[03:13] <AcidRain> i had in on my ubuntu 11 system
[03:13] <AcidRain> something like... system timed project
[03:13] <AcidRain> hell idk
[03:14] <DJHenjin> AcidRain: Cron Jobs are handled by Cron on a linux server
[03:14] <AcidRain> scheduled tasks. thats it!
[03:14] <AcidRain> DJHenjin, ya but this lil gui makes life easy
[03:14] <DJHenjin> lol, i dont use a GUI on my server at all
[03:15] <mladoux> dcron, fcron, vixie-cron, really depends on what you have installed.
[03:17] <she_dyed>  acidrain may  be onto something here
[03:18] <AcidRain> lol.
[03:20] <AcidRain> /usr/local/bin/php /var/www/CronSong.php >/dev/null 2>&1 is this not proper?
[03:20] <quem> any good PPAs out there?
[03:23] <cfhowlett> quem, yes
[03:26] <AcidRain> /usr/bin/php this is right. still wont execute php script
[03:27] <kiyoura> is both php and php-cli installed?
[03:27] <qubit01> +1 kiyoura
[03:28] <she_dyed> AcidRain: the >dev/null sends output to oblivion
[03:29] <she_dyed> to neverneverland
[03:29] <AcidRain> ya nvm. i found an error in coding :/
[03:29] <AcidRain> and i made this like 3 yrs ago lol
[03:29] <she_dyed> ah ok
[03:29] <she_dyed> lol
[03:33] <Liam-> where would i go to get java support, or can i get it here
[03:33] <Liam-> actually, im not generally sure if it is java or not.
[03:33] <cfhowlett> !java|Liam-,
[03:33] <Liam-> i have it installed, that isn't the issue
[03:34] <AcidRain> ya appers i have fixed it
[03:34] <Liam-> i'm running a process that is getting "Killed" randomly. Java doesn't output any errors, but the system shows that it isn't running out of space.
[03:34] <Random832> Liam-: how much system memory do you have?
[03:35] <Liam-> 512mb with 1gb vswap
[03:35] <bigbadben> Hey I am getting a kernal panic when ever I try to connect to my bluetooth mouse can anyone help me?
[03:35] <Liam-> the process is using /very/ little memory
[03:36] <uoker> hello
[03:36] <cfhowlett> uoker, greetings
[03:37] <ayu_> hello everyone
[03:37] <cfhowlett> ayu_, greetings
[03:37] <ayu_> cfhowlett,  i need help
[03:38] <cfhowlett> !details|ayu_,
[03:38] <mathor> How do I encourage my computer science department to encourage open source development?
[03:38] <bazhang> !ot | mathor
[03:38] <ayu_> how to exec a pythoy script in anywhere
[03:39] <ayu_> yes i will try
[03:41] <ayu_> a python script: like this: print 'hello' I put it on my ~/ayu/Desk  ,but I want in anywhere to run it
[03:41] <AcidRain> Apr 16 22:40:01 acidrain-CM1730-CM1830 CRON[20042]: (acidrain) CMD (/usr/bin/php /var/www/CronSong.php >/dev/null 2>&1 # JOB_ID_1)
[03:41] <AcidRain> does this mean it was successful?
[03:41] <she_dyed> ayu_: google for a write up about $PATH
[03:41] <ayu_> I add it to PATH
[03:41] <she_dyed> what
[03:42] <AcidRain> how do i know if the cron job executed?
[03:42] <AcidRain> :/
[03:42] <AcidRain> i should be able to tell cause it should update a few sql tables. but its not doing this
[03:43] <gizmo> ayu_, add "#!/usr/bin/python" to the beggining of the python script
[03:43] <AcidRain> hmm.. it seems to be working now
[03:44] <Shadow__X> AcidRain: http://askubuntu.com/questions/56683/where-is-the-cron-crontab-log
[03:44] <ayu_> yeah,I add it , but it does not work
[03:44] <Shadow__X> look at those logs
[03:44] <Shadow__X> AcidRain: look at /var/log/syslog or use grep CRON /var/log/syslog
[03:44] <AcidRain> Shadow__X, are you the same Shadow__X that created sbx mod for jk?
[03:45] <Shadow__X> AcidRain: no as i do not know what sbx is or jk is
[03:45] <ayu_> any thanks, i search goole
[03:45] <AcidRain> oh, nvm then. thx for the help
[03:45] <AcidRain> :)
[03:45] <she_dyed> did you chmod the program ayu_
[03:45] <ayu_> yeah
[03:45] <ayu_> 777
[03:45] <she_dyed> now the dir its in
[03:45] <Shadow__X> she_dyed: should it be chmod +x ?
[03:46] <she_dyed> even better
[03:46] <she_dyed> 777 is too much power
[03:46] <AcidRain> +x is for execution
[03:46] <ayu_> chmod +x name.py
[03:46] <Rallias> Is it possible to make ffmpeg splice together two video sources side by side?
[03:47] <she_dyed> and the dir has to be
[03:47] <Shadow__X> Rallias: side by side?
[03:47] <Shadow__X> or play right after another
[03:47] <cfhowlett> Rallias, as in dual display?
[03:47] <Rallias> Shadow__X, No, like screen on left, webcam on right
[03:48] <she_dyed> and combine on 1 clip Rallias ?
[03:48] <Rallias> yeah
[03:48] <she_dyed> i'd use recordmydesktop
[03:49] <she_dyed> once i got both running
[03:49] <cfhowlett> Rallias, never seen that in ffmpeg, but I suspect it's possible.  perhaps ask in #ubuntustudio?  also note that ffmpeg is to be dropped in future.  avconv is the suggested replacement
[03:49] <binary_glitch> Rallias, pragmatically or on a one-time basis
[03:49] <[Relic]> I want to wipe/zero out a whole partition of a drive does dd work for that or is there something better?
[03:49] <Rallias> binary_glitch, One time basis, it's for a school project.
[03:49] <binary_glitch> "i'd use recordmydesktop" she_dyed
[03:49] <Rallias> [Relic], dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda1
[03:49] <Random832> no
[03:50] <Shadow__X> [Relic]: you could do what Rallias suggested. It depends on how many wipes/passes you want to do
[03:50] <Random832> just cp /dev/zero /dev/sd(whatever drive)
[03:50] <Rallias> Random832, cp doesn't work on block devices, just files.
[03:50] <Random832> dd is unnecessary, and it's slower unless you specify a block size
[03:50] <Random832> Rallias: untrue.
[03:50] <Rallias> You sure?
[03:50] <Random832> yes.
[03:50] <Random832> I actually know the historical reason that dd is so popular for this among linux users
[03:51] <Rallias> hm... I've always heard otherwise.
[03:51] <Random832> there was a bug in an early version of the kernel that caused cp to misdetect some files as sparse files, and so copying _to_ a device would corrupt any zero block
[03:51] <Random832> from the disk image file
[03:51] <binary_glitch> @Random832, I'm game what's the 'historical' reason??
[03:51] <Random832> since then, it just got in everyone's ideas of how things are done
[03:51] <Random832> binary_glitch: ^
[03:52] <Random832> very early version of the kernel reported file sizes wrong, so cp thought they were sparse files, and _cp_ had a bug when copying a sparse file (or a file it believed it was sparse) to a device
[03:53] <[Relic]> I just wasn't sure if it would do partition rather than the whole drive since all I saw was old small HD stuff so far  :)
[03:53] <Random832> so people used dd as a workaround for writing disk images to disks, and then people kept doing it without remembering why it was done
[03:53] <Rallias> hmm... I was always taught that DD was for block devices and CP was for files.
[03:53] <Shadow__X> there is drakes boot and nuke DBAN that makes it easier and will write random data
[03:54] <Random832> Rallias: it's one of those things everyone does and no-one knows why
[03:54] <Shadow__X> [Relic]: ^
[03:54] <Random832> but dd is actually slower in the default case unless you specify the block size
[03:54] <Random832> since the default is 512 bytes, and cp will use 4k or 32k as appropriate to the destination filesystem
[03:54] <Random832> (i think to devices it defaults to 4k)
[03:55] <Random832> i haven't timed it, dd might be faster if you do like bs=1M, but no-one does
[03:55] <binary_glitch> "there is drakes boot and nuke DBAN that makes it easier and will write random data" Shadow_X ... I also highly recomend this... good for trashing all evidence of things too
[03:56] <bigbadben> anyone here have experience with kernel panics?
[03:56] <binary_glitch> though I wouldn't go as far as to say that there isn't some forensics lab out there somewhere that...
[03:56] <Rallias> bigbadben, For really stupid causes yes... why, what's your trouble my friend?
[03:57] <binary_glitch> kernel panic... I cause them on purpose ... for the fun of it... lol
[03:57] <binary_glitch> but I usually don't bother fixing it..
[03:57] <Rallias> heh.
[03:57] <binary_glitch> just when I wanna change distros...
[03:57] <Rallias> Usually when I cause KP's it's because there's no /proc in the root filesystem.
[03:58] <bigbadben> Rallias, when ever I try to connect my bluetooth mouse I get a kernel panic
[03:58] <Rallias> bigbadben, Are you fully up to date?
[03:58] <bigbadben> yep
[03:58] <Rallias> Did you google your mouse and bluetooth adaptor in conjunction with the term kernel panic?
[03:59] <bigbadben> i am using a cheap bluetooth dongle if that matters
[03:59] <niftylettuce> I'm on Ubuntu 11.10 and having issues with bluetooth, the device connects successfully, but does not show in sound manager
[03:59] <Rallias> I'm going to step out because I have no idea.
[03:59] <niftylettuce> bigbadben: i have a similar issue with a logitech headset
[03:59] <niftylettuce> bigbadben: if you unplug it, it kernel panics haha
[03:59] <Rallias> bigbadben, Is it kernel panic or is it soft panic?
[04:00] <Rallias> Soft panic you can hit ctrl+alt+f1 then ctrl+alt+f7 and recover
[04:00] <Rallias> (I don't know the proper term)
[04:00] <bigbadben> kernel for sure alt f does not work
[04:01] <binary_glitch> drivers and moduals / deamons
[04:01] <Rallias> I guess look for a bug report, if there isn't one file one.
[04:01] <bigbadben> I can make it happen as I please so there should be a way to log it see what is going on?
[04:01] <Rallias> Check /var/log/*
[04:01] <Rallias> I think dmesg works, altho that MIGHT be wiped at boot.
[04:02] <bigbadben> If I can see what the logs say just before it happens I could probably find a solution
[04:02] <Rallias> Well, all the logs are in /var/log
[04:02] <binary_glitch> *human readable
[04:02] <Rallias> I'm thinking dmesg will probably be your best bet, it might be something else in ubuntu.
[04:03] <Jagst3r15> I am trying to check for the existence of bkup directory and if not then create it
[04:03] <Jagst3r15> im trying to use command line for this so not sure
[04:03] <Rallias> binary_glitch, I'm not sure about you, but [01/31/2013 11:59:34] Kernel Panic is fairly readable to me.
[04:03] <Rallias> Jagst3r15, if [ -f /path/to/directory ]
[04:04] <Rallias> that's in bash.
[04:04] <Jagst3r15> okie
[04:04] <Jagst3r15> thanks
[04:04] <binary_glitch> sounds like a typical lack of hardware support...
[04:04] <Rallias> Anyhow, I've done my civic duty, night y'all.
[04:04] <binary_glitch> I was saying there are other places that logs are kept, but they are not human readable...
[04:05] <Rallias> binary_glitch, with a bit of perl, anything's human readable.
[04:05] <Rallias> It's just that you have to smash your face in the keyboard to get the right perl.
[04:06] <bigbadben> binary_glitch, got any ideas?
[04:07] <binary_glitch> they are for your computer to read, ie the computer might say dear self, last time I shutdown, proper procedure was not followed, and I am concerned... so reminder to self, check my file systems next time I boot.
[04:09] <_cb>  #ubuntu
[04:09] <StevenX> Hi everyone. I am using a lubuntu livecd. I have installed lubuntu but I get a flickering screen when I try to boot into it.
[04:09] <StevenX> This is what I am getting.
[04:09] <binary_glitch> Rallias, I'd use c++ but technically anything is human readable with just the brain, the term human readable just means that basically anyone could decipher it if they applied themselves.
[04:09] <StevenX> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5714585A/
[04:10] <StevenX> Can someone please help me.
[04:10] <Shadow__X> paste isnt coming up here
[04:10] <Liam-> this process bug is killing me
[04:10] <Liam-> i have no clue what it'd be
[04:10] <StevenX> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5714585
[04:10] <Liam-> does java store any kind of extensive logs?
[04:10] <Liam-> i looked into /var/log
[04:10] <Liam-> doesn't show much
[04:11] <StevenX> sorry Shadow__X, I had an A in there for some reaosn
[04:11] <wilee-nilee> StevenX, Check that paste is correct nothing there.
[04:11] <StevenX> wilee-nilee, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5714585/
[04:11] <wilee-nilee> thanks
[04:11] <binary_glitch> the 'A' lol
[04:12] <StevenX> binary_glitch, lol
[04:12] <StevenX> now help me ;)
[04:13] <binary_glitch> reading your log
[04:14] <StevenX> binary_glitch, thank you!
[04:15] <binary_glitch> for shits and giggles wanna list info like what display and display card your using, os version etc
[04:15] <binary_glitch> Ubuntu 12.10, quantal, Ubuntu, x86_64
[04:15] <StevenX> OK, let's see if I can get all that info:
[04:15] <binary_glitch> got that...
[04:15] <StevenX> binary_glitch, Lubuntu x64
[04:15] <StevenX> I'll look up my display card
[04:17] <Shadow__X> is there a way to force acpi_cpufreq to load for an amd 8320?
[04:17] <StevenX> binary_glitch, this is my computer. The spec page doesn't show the display card: http://www.samsung.com/us/computer/laptops/NP-QX411-W02UB
[04:17] <Shadow__X> none of my cpu freqs are loading
[04:17] <binary_glitch> looks like you installed on your 640GB SAMSUNG hard dirve
[04:18] <StevenX> binary_glitch, yes; at least that was my intent.
[04:18] <binary_glitch> it's a laptop...
[04:18] <StevenX> it is.
[04:18] <Shadow__X> seems like intel hd 3000 graphics
[04:18] <Shadow__X> yup hd 3000
[04:19] <binary_glitch> oh about the display... you probably, never mind you figured it out
[04:20] <binary_glitch> yeah if your able to boot but have issues with your screen filckering it sounds like a graphic config issue...
[04:20] <binary_glitch> maybe x?? but probably a dirver...
[04:20] <StevenX> binary_glitch, I'm able to boot into the livecd, so I know the system is compatible. But when I try to boot from the HD, the computer just flickers.
[04:21] <StevenX> binary_glitch, how would I go about fixing that?
[04:21] <_cb> Last night I sent Spam. I think it is may machine or evolution and not my account.  What can I check for?
[04:21] <DJHenjin> Im having issues with Ubuntu 12.04 server crashing without warning or explanation.
[04:21] <DJHenjin> could someone help me track down the issue?
[04:21] <binary_glitch> are you talking to us on it now?
[04:21] <DJHenjin> binary_glitch: Talking to me?
[04:21] <StevenX> binary_glitch, yea, I'm on the livecd.
[04:22] <binary_glitch> or a different machine??
[04:22] <_cb> DJenjin have you ruled the machine out?
[04:22] <binary_glitch>  can you come back as same username on a different machine?
[04:22] <DJHenjin> _cb: It is a server i rent from a company across the country, I cannot troubleshoot hardware, but i am assured it is all fine
[04:22] <StevenX> binary_glitch, I don't have a diff. machine available.
[04:22] <Shadow__X> _cb: you could check processes on your machine and check to see if another ip other than yours has sent mail from your email server
[04:22] <StevenX> :-(
[04:23] <_cb> Shadow__X this is on my desktop. I think Evolution is compromised.
[04:23] <DJHenjin> _cb: Worse yet, It is my production machine. It ran fine for 2 months, Then all of a sudden a couple days ago it crashed. rebooted and got everything running again. then it crashed again today
[04:24] <_cb> DJHenjin VM or Phisycal server?
[04:24] <DJHenjin> _cb: Physical dedicated server.
[04:24] <jenenliu> hi guys, there is two video card in my Dell laptop, and I don't know how to install the video driver, can someone help me? thanks
[04:25] <binary_glitch> okay then... you will have to leave us and come back posibly serveral times for me to walk you through what I'd do to truble shoot... also you will have to be able to retain several steps to do during some boot up procidures... unless someone else has a better idea and wants to sep in
[04:25] <_cb> DJHenjin do you do maint or do you have that contracted out?
[04:25] <Shadow__X> jenenliu: nvidia and intel?
[04:25] <DJHenjin> _cb: I personally do software maint.
[04:25] <_cb> How about updates?
[04:25] <jenenliu> no, amd and intel
[04:25] <_cb> DJHenjin How about updates?
[04:25] <Shadow__X> jenenliu: link to laptop?
[04:25] <StevenX> binary_glitch,
[04:26] <StevenX> ok
[04:26] <DJHenjin> _cb: I log in daily to do apt-get upgrade and apt-get updates.
[04:26] <StevenX> what's the first step?
[04:26] <_cb> DJHenjin have you checked disk space on all your partitions?
[04:26] <jenenliu> Shadow__X: I sorry, I am new to linux, what do you mean?
[04:26] <Shadow__X> jenenliu: can you provide a link to the laptop you own
[04:26] <evilytwisted> hi, could someone help me get redshift working where i dont need to sudo it to get it running?
[04:26] <DJHenjin>    / has more than 50% of 20 GB available, /home has only 5 GB used of 2 TB
[04:27] <binary_glitch> okay when you boot try firs pressing tab if it is a single boot machine to bring up the boot options menu (if it doesn't show up automatically for something like 20 ~ 30 sec)
[04:27] <binary_glitch> and selcet recovery mode
[04:27] <_cb> DJHenjin how about other partitions opt? var? ...
[04:27] <StevenX> binary_glitch, it doesn't show up automatically, so I will have to use tab.
[04:27] <StevenX> OK.
[04:28] <binary_glitch> when it actaly starts to boot if it has a sudo progress bar
[04:28] <jenenliu> Shadow__X: what do you need to know, my driver is x.org driver, and blow is my 'lspci | grep VGA' result
[04:28] <DJHenjin> _cb: is there a way i can run the fdisk -l command and have it paste the output to a pastebin site?
[04:28] <jenenliu> Shadow__X:00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[04:28] <jenenliu> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Seymour [Radeon HD 6400M/7400M Series]
[04:28] <Shadow__X> jenenliu: do not paste a bunch of text in the channel. Use pastebin.com or ubuntu paste.ubuntu.com
[04:28] <seamen69> I had a boyfriend named Ubuntu once.
[04:29] <seamen69> he used to "play the bongos" on my ass
[04:29] <binary_glitch> press F2 to bring it back into 'verbose' mode and watch what the screen says... (this used to be the standard boot mode for Linux)
[04:29] <Shadow__X> jenenliu: what model laptop
[04:29] <_cb> DJHenjin if you are not out of space then that rules disk space out. Does your machine crash before fully booting or does it run for a while and then crash?
[04:29] <jenenliu> x86, Dell Inspiron-N4050
[04:30] <DJHenjin> _cb: ran for 2 months, then crashed the first time, then ran for about 2 days and crashed again
[04:30] <StevenX> binary_glitch, OK, so far I know what to do, then
[04:30] <jenenliu> Shadow__X: x86
[04:30] <binary_glitch> if you get that far and it freeses on a message for say 2 min press F7 if it starts flickering again come back and let me know what it last said
[04:30] <StevenX> binary_glitch, ok, thanks, I will try that.
[04:32] <DJHenjin> _cb: I am currently on irssi connected through SSH, in a screen session on the machine in question
[04:33] <_cb> DJHenjin logs don't tell you anything?
[04:33] <DJHenjin> _cb: I am relatively new to troubleshooting ubuntu 12.04, I havent found anything in the logs that stood out to me
[04:34] <she_dyed>  or you may have ignored something we could use
[04:34] <_cb> DJHenjin Assume machine is running now
[04:35] <DJHenjin> _cb:  Yes, It is running
[04:35] <evilytwisted> Could someone help me get redshift working without needing sudo to run it
[04:35] <_cb> DJHenjin what apps are you running on it?
[04:35] <dumnut> hi, i want to change my chatroom name such as ~dumnut@12.13.43.34, i want to cahgne ~dumnut to something else, how do i do that?
[04:36] <Shadow__X> dumnut: /nick newnick
[04:36] <DJHenjin> Apache2, PHP5, MySQL, Zabbix, Java for Minecraft servers, Bind9, Postfix, and all related dep's
[04:36] <binary_glitch> hey all, I'm gonna be afk smoking a cigarette... if StevenX re-joins looking for me... fwd the msg that I'm akf, and will return to help him/her soon. (by name I assume him)
[04:37] <DJHenjin> Alright binary_glitch
[04:37] <dumnut> Shadow__X: yes i know that. but when we log in to a chatroom, the label ~dumnut@12.13.43.34, i want to change that label ~dumnut to something else, how do i do that?
[04:37] <Liam-> dumnut: are you saying your ident? that is the username!~ident@(ip/hostname) part
[04:37] <dumnut> Liam-: yes i want to change the ident
[04:37] <Liam-> what client are you using?
[04:37] <dumnut> knoversation
[04:38] <Liam-> i've never used it, but i bet if you check the settings, there will be a username (or ident) setting you can change
[04:38] <Liam-> often times clients will either include it, or use the default system username
[04:39] <akuarius> who teach me rob a bank with back track please?
[04:39] <dumnut> Liam-: ok, i'll check thatt. thank-you for your tip
[04:39] <DJHenjin> akuarius: are you kidding? LOL
[04:39] <akuarius> :) nor ehehe
[04:39] <DJHenjin> akuarius: This is definitely not the place to ask such a question
[04:40] <akuarius> ok sorry :)
[04:40] <akuarius> thats ok im here to learn some ubuntu things :)
[04:40] <_cb> Akuarius try www.fbi.com
[04:40] <akuarius> ahaha
[04:40] <she_dyed> evilytwisted: maybe the command ought to be in /usr/local/bin...
[04:41] <evilytwisted> IM sorry she_dyed ? i dont understand
[04:41] <Liam-> dumnut: also, you'll have to reconnect from irc to refresh that username, fyi.
[04:41] <akuarius> i installed office 2010 on ubuntu but i cant activate any tips?
[04:42] <dumnut> Liam-: ok, thank-you again
[04:42] <she_dyed> wait is that right, thought he wanted to change it
[04:42] <binary_glitch> okay I'm back
[04:43] <Liam-> dumnut: no problem.
[04:43] <DJHenjin> WB binary_glitch he wasn here yet
[04:43] <binary_glitch> kk ths
[04:43] <DJHenjin> NP
[04:44] <FrankieJ> hey, anyone here know about the gedit glitch where it opens a new document tab everytime you open a text file with gedit in unity?
[04:44] <evilytwisted> Could someone help me get redshift to work without needing sudo to run it
[04:45] <binary_glitch> FrankieJ no, sorry I use fxce... never like unity form the first feel, never really checked it out...
[04:46] <DJHenjin> _cb left, fun...
[04:46] <Liam-> so, any ideas why a java process would just randomly stop without outputting any errors? (not a memory issue, that i know of)
[04:47] <FrankieJ> binary_glitch, ok...if not unity, but the gedit glitch still exists?
[04:48] <binary_glitch> oh, also I use different *ware for that too... geany... as I like it for c++ and php
[04:49] <FrankieJ> geany?
[04:49] <Liam-> Geany is nice
[04:49] <binary_glitch> an other text editor like gedit
[04:49] <Eeeeeeeeeeetan>  #mc_ghast
[04:49] <FrankieJ> if i install geany would it overrite gedit
[04:50] <she_dyed> evilytwisted: maybe more
[04:50] <evilytwisted> binary_glitch:  if i may bother you for a few.. i would appreciate it... would you by chance know how to get redshift to work without needing sudo to run it.. Or gtk-redhshift for that matter
[04:50] <binary_glitch> I like it better for the syntax support
[04:50] <she_dyed> !details > evilytwisted
[04:50] <binary_glitch> well, I don't think it would overwirte it, more at you'd have two text editors
[04:52] <Shadow__X> I am trying to enable cpufreq on my machine but i keep getting this problem http://pastebin.com/7nvmm0Wi the cpu is a amd fx 8320 the os is ubuntu 12.04.2
[04:52] <binary_glitch> never used redhshift, but I know how to make an app run as root by default (usually without having to enter the root pass) in a *buntu enviro
[04:52] <binary_glitch> and it's farily simple
[04:54] <evilytwisted> alright ty
[04:54] <binary_glitch> also I can give you a root desktop without a root account (on a one time basis, though you can do it over and over) ... ... ... but I'd advise against it
[04:54] <FrankieJ> geany doesnt work with sudo? how else can i edit with full permission?
[04:54] <binary_glitch> if either of those are helpfull let me know and I'll explain them
[04:55] <evilytwisted> binary_glitch:  ty for a quick response.. But now im seem to having problems with geoclue itself.. not just redshift..
[04:55] <an0n> How to install xmonad on ubuntu 12.04?
[04:56] <binary_glitch> Frankie, CLI (terminal) sudo -i
[04:56] <binary_glitch> then cd to your document
[04:56] <binary_glitch> and use geany form there
[04:56] <FrankieJ> binary_glitch, thx
[04:57] <binary_glitch> or gtk-sudo
[04:57] <Liam-> can't you just sudo geany?
[04:57] <vladimir> hi
[04:57] <Liam-> works for me..
[04:57] <vladimir> anybody help me?
[04:57] <FrankieJ> yea it works Liam-...i fail
[04:57] <Shadow__X> an0n: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ubuntu+xmonad&l=1
[04:58] <Soggy> Hello Everyone!
[04:58] <binary_glitch> or use sudo -i then exo-open --launch FileManager
[04:58] <wilee-nilee> vladimir, For help you post the problem.
[04:58] <binary_glitch> that will give you a root filemanager
[04:59] <binary_glitch> any app open by clicking in that will be ran as root
[04:59] <Soggy> Can someone help me with searching for this solution on the forums because I'm having difficulties.. I'm trying to install Ubuntu server 12.10 and it's erroring around 65%-75%
[04:59] <vladimir> I can not connect to the channel #ubuntu-ru
[04:59] <an0n> Shadow__X: thanks
[05:00] <binary_glitch> so you can righ-click and choose the app you want, if it doesn't work you can try an other...
[05:00] <she_dyed> vladimir: why not
[05:00] <Soggy> vladimir is that a channel for support?
[05:00] <vladimir>  Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services
[05:00] <DJHenjin> vladimir: you need to /mg nickserv register
[05:00] <wilee-nilee> vladimir, I can, do you have to be registered maybe?
[05:00] <vladimir> im newbies
[05:01] <DJHenjin> sorry /msg nickserv register
[05:01] <Shadow__X> Soggy: make sure the image passes the checksum
[05:01] <binary_glitch> vladimir ...  I was just going to tell him it's * /msg not /mg lol
[05:02] <vladimir> speack russian???
[05:02] <yeahuyen> does anyone know how i can set geany as the default text editor in ubuntu?
[05:02] <Soggy> What happens if it doesn't pass the checksum?
[05:02] <binary_glitch> not I, vladimir
[05:02] <vladimir> mmmmm...
[05:03] <Shadow__X> Soggy: then the download is bad and you need to redownload
[05:03] <binary_glitch> geany is my prefered app for that ... trying to remember...
[05:03] <dodo3773> yeahuyen: In your file manager don't you have an "open with" in your right click context menu or something similar?
[05:03] <vladimir> describe the order that I need to do
[05:03] <Soggy> ah, well what I'm trying to accomplish is a webserver for use to develop websites with
[05:03] <binary_glitch> yes
[05:04] <Soggy> So was giving ubuntu a try
[05:04] <dodo3773> yeahuyen: A couple other ways: Uninstall all the other text editors or use xdg-mime or similar.
[05:04] <binary_glitch> yeahuyen, right click a txt file or .cpp or .php or whatever you want to make it the default app for
[05:04] <vladimir> i have KVirc
[05:04] <vladimir> connect with freenode
[05:05] <alakoo> is there a way to introduce gnome system tools onto my left panel (in unity), I downloaded the package through synaptic but can't find it now
[05:05] <she_dyed> vladimir: but you still need to register
[05:05] <binary_glitch> then slect open with other application...
[05:05] <Shadow__X> Soggy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM
[05:05] <Soggy> guess it's time to go back to google, thanks a bunch though Shadow__X !
[05:05] <dr_willis> alakoo:  find an app in 'dash' and pin it to the panel
[05:05] <vladimir> on freenode?
[05:05] <Soggy> oh right on
[05:05] <Shadow__X> Soggy: i am not saying that is definitely your problem but something to check into
[05:06] <binary_glitch> then make sure the check box at the bottom of the resulting window for make this the default app is checked... done
[05:06] <she_dyed> vladimir: yes, so you can identify and goto these channels
[05:06] <vladimir> how i do it?
[05:06] <alakoo> dr_willis: yeah but dash can't find it
[05:06] <dr_willis> !identify
[05:06] <dr_willis> alakoo:  what app?
[05:06] <she_dyed> thank god automatic is spelled correctly
[05:07] <Shadow__X> Soggy: if you downloaded the iso through bittorrent then it handles the checksum for you. if you download through firefox you can install the addon downthemall and after you start the download right click the download and click options there you can enter the checksum. after the download is done it will check for you
[05:07] <Soggy> Shadow__X: ah yes well I will give this a shot and continue to try and try till I get it right
[05:07] <alakoo> dr_willis: gnome system tool, you know, the pre-unity place for settings etc
[05:07] <Soggy> Oh I downloaded off chrome
[05:07] <alakoo> I'd like to *involve* it in unity, not return to old gnome
[05:07] <binary_glitch> dodo3773, did you know about my solution to yeahuyen's quesion?
[05:07] <Shadow__X> Soggy: before you go any further just check the checksum of your iso then go from there so you can narrow things down. you can use other apps to compare the checksum
[05:07] <binary_glitch> kk never mind
[05:07] <binary_glitch> lol
[05:08] <dr_willis> alakoo:  not really.  :) with the switch to gnome3 im suprused it still in the repos. check the package files to see what binarys it includes. and if it has a .desktop file
[05:08] <Soggy> sweet thank you!
[05:09] <dr_willis> !info galternatives
[05:09] <passerine> binary_glitch, i was going to mention select-editor but i'm not really sure if it's useful.
[05:09] <dr_willis> the alternatives system - lets you define default apps also. ;)
[05:10] <t3hb055nueb> using the software center, I cannot purchase steam....
[05:10] <dr_willis> t3hb055nueb:  i just go to the steam site and download the .deb
[05:10] <t3hb055nueb> link?
[05:10] <dr_willis> google.com perhaps?  im on my phone
[05:10] <passerine> dr_willis, is that new?
[05:11] <dr_willis> passerine:  its the same package/software  as in the software center.
[05:11] <vladimir> Thank you for verifying your e-mail address! You have taken steps in ensuring that your registrations are not exploited.
[05:11] <dr_willis> steam is a rather.. odd program on ubuntu in how it works.
[05:11] <vladimir> what next?
[05:12] <dr_willis> vladimir:  you should really be asking for Identification help in #freenode
[05:12] <t3hb055nueb> are there any steam games that are free for a lower end pc?
[05:12] <dr_willis> vladimir:  identify to nickserv when you connect.. basically
[05:12] <binary_glitch> passerine, if your here thinking of ways you can help ppl, than you are doing your part... the way I see it, we are eachother's tech support... if we don't share what we know than were all screwed at some point.
[05:13] <shmoon> i am just trying to understand something basic about filesystem type like ext, ntfs, fat. is it something hardware specific or something decided by operating system. sorry fi the question si vague.
[05:13] <Shadow__X> shmoon: operating system and what it supports
[05:13] <dr_willis> the hard drive dosent care what filesystem its partioned/formated to. ;)
[05:13] <Shadow__X> shmoon: you can have ext3 ext4 ntfs  partions on the same drive but if you boot into windows you will only see ntfs unless you install driver
[05:13] <shmoon> Shadow__X: so the operating system decides what file system type to use to store data in the hard disk ?
[05:13] <Shadow__X> s
[05:14] <dr_willis> shmoon:  differnt OS's support differnt filesystems - correct
[05:14] <shmoon> ok makes sense, thanks :)
[05:14] <dr_willis> if theres an OS out that supports more FS's then linux.. im not sure whata it would be.. ;)
[05:14] <shmoon> can i install windows and ubuntu into same parittion ?
[05:15] <Shadow__X> anyone know how to fix cpufreq? http://pastebin.com/7nvmm0Wi
[05:15] <dr_willis> its amazeing how many fs's linux supports..
[05:15] <binary_glitch> shamoon, well this may not be the most approperate channel for that, un-like others, I won't shun you for asking here, rather I'd advise your find a better channel... but I'll be happy to explain what I know about the subject
[05:15] <dr_willis> shmoon:  same partition? not really. thats what partions are for.. to seperate things out
[05:15] <shmoon> ah ok, thanks dr_willis
[05:15] <Shadow__X> shmoon: afaik there is a package that will let you do that but if you want to learn about linux you can use livecds to get you started
[05:16] <Shadow__X> shmoon: the whole operating system will run from a cd
[05:16] <dr_willis> shmoon:  typical dual boot install setup -- a windows partion,  a linux partion for /  and a partion for linux swap.
[05:16] <binary_glitch> so to expound on what has already been sayed about it ... most OS's support a range of file systems
[05:16] <dr_willis> shmoon:  you can play with linux in virtualbox and partion virtual drives  :) if you want to experiment..
[05:16] <TryX> Hey sorry I have a question about xfire. How can i set it that I can join certain channels automatically instead of typing /join all the time?
[05:17] <dr_willis> TryX:  most chat clients have on connect settings to handkle that
[05:17] <dr_willis> never heard of xfire
[05:17] <dr_willis> !info xfire
[05:17] <binary_glitch> some files systems have different fetures that may make them more desireable than others for a given task...
[05:17] <TryX> I cant seem to find that option dr_willis
[05:18] <dfcnvt> Hi
[05:18] <Shadow__X> i am trying to get cpu freq working to save on power and energy usage if that helps
[05:18] <TryX> ah nm found it!
[05:18] <TryX> Hey
[05:19] <creftos> hey so I'm having issues seeing local java applets in my web browsers. It says that my security settings don't allow me to see them. How do I fix this?
[05:19] <Shadow__X> creftos: go to the security settings in your browser
[05:19] <binary_glitch> you can decide between ext, ext2, ext3, ext4, v-fat, fat16, fat32, ntfs, etc based on the feature-set and limitations of each...
[05:19] <dfcnvt> Any of you know which webcam program that comes with frameless window on the desktop? It's for recording my desktop, I want my webcame to be frameless.
[05:19] <creftos> Shadow_X: I have, there's nothing about java in there.
[05:20] <Shadow__X> creftos: which browser
[05:20] <creftos> Shadow_X: firefox
[05:20] <dr_willis> dfcnvt:  i belive with compiz settings in the ccsm tool you can set specific windows to be frameless.  or other tweaks. (transparencey and so forth)
[05:21] <dfcnvt> I'll check it out.
[05:21] <dr_willis> dfcnvt:  check the windows rules plugin. 9 (i think thats the name)
[05:21] <Shadow__X> creftos:
[05:21] <Shadow__X> creftos: http://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/use-java-plugin-to-view-interactive-content
[05:21] <Shadow__X> creftos: http://docs.oracle.com/javase/7/docs/technotes/guides/jweb/client-security.html
[05:21] <binary_glitch> I'd use 'RecordMyDesktop' lol
[05:21] <binary_glitch> it's a default app in most *buntus that I've tried
[05:22] <dr_willis> bbl
[05:22] <dfcnvt> dr_willis: I'm on Window Rules... Which one will be frameless?
[05:23] <binary_glitch> the app it's slef isn't framless, but it doen's record it's own frame
[05:23] <binary_glitch> so the out come is framless
[05:23] <binary_glitch> * frameless
[05:23] <dr_willis> dfcnvt:  no idea.  thats where i do many other tweaks in the past. if it exists i would think its in there.
[05:23] <dr_willis> i seem to recall seeing it in some plugin.
[05:24] <dfcnvt> binary_glitch: I am using my recordMyDesktop for my project.
[05:24] <dr_willis> ive also seen other window managers that have a similer feature.   sawfish lets you selecct differnt themes/fframes for differnt windows. but thats a bit overkill i imagine
[05:25] <dr_willis> bbl.
[05:25] <creftos> Shadow_X: Thanks, but I'm still having trouble. I can see java applets that aren't stored locally, but I'm trying to see local ones.
[05:25] <shmoon> if i move some files from a ubuntu (ext3) to windows (ntfs) - are there some bad implications?
[05:25] <Shadow__X> creftos: not sure
[05:25] <t3hb055nueb> Is it my pc or is www.google loading s*low?
[05:25] <dfcnvt> I think I found some on youtube.
[05:25] <dfcnvt> borderless
[05:25] <dfcnvt> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1Pv94V9nhY
[05:25] <dfcnvt> .title
[05:25] <FloodBot1> dfcnvt: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:25] <Capprentice> If  I install multiple backend for akonadi it it going to work any faster on Ubuntu 12.04 ?? Or it start conflicting with each other (mysql vs postgresql) ?
[05:25] <creftos> Shadow_X: There's also no java control  panel under the security tab of my preferences
[05:26] <creftos> Shadow_X: ok, thanks anyway
[05:29] <wilee-nilee> shmoon, What kind of files?
[05:29] <Capprentice> Anyone using KDE apps on Ubuntu ? Have installed Nepomukserver and akonadi console ?
[05:29] <shmoon> simple files, i wonder if there can be bad implications or not, like some metadata getting lost?
[05:30] <wilee-nilee> shmoon, As a dual booter I have a share partition, for media and documents and that is it, no operating system type files.
[05:31] <wilee-nilee> shmoon, The share is a NTFS
[05:31] <t3hb055nueb> is www.gmail.com down?
[05:32] <aeon-ltd> t3hb055nueb: no
[05:32] <wilee-nilee> t3hb055nueb, nope it shows here.
[05:32] <dfcnvt> I got it, window decoration, 'Grab' the webcam program then invert it. It will becomes borderless.
[05:32] <dfcnvt> Thanks dr_willis
[05:32] <Capprentice> t3hb055nueb, install klinkstatus and check it urself ;)
[05:35] <Capprentice> What is video/x-surface decoder?
[05:35] <t3hb055nueb> strange, I can connect to any webpage besides www.gmail.com... even goodle
[05:35] <t3hb055nueb> google
[05:35] <orion_> hey
[05:35] <binary_glitch> NE1 know what DE Zorin OS uses? just curious...
[05:35] <binary_glitch> hey]
[05:36] <Capprentice> t3hb055nueb, check if you have backlisted the domain within the browser. What browser you are using ?
[05:36] <orion_> trying to install ubuntu on UEFI box along side windows 8, with an SSD and a Nvidia Titan.  Having a very hard time.  What version of Ubuntu is most likely to work for me - be at this for a few days...
[05:36] <MMelanie> Hola:3
[05:36] <MMelanie> hola
[05:36] <MMelanie> hola
[05:36] <TryX> werd
[05:36] <binary_glitch> bueno
[05:37] <wilee-nilee> !uefi | orion_
[05:38] <binary_glitch> MMelanie, for English press 1, para Espanol marke numoro 2
[05:39] <Ari-Yang> I have a question, how do I accurately test my frame rate? I heard that you can't really test it with glxgears....
[05:40] <MMelanie> laputamadre hay alguien bo?
[05:40] <binary_glitch> Y si esta pencando... si, hablo Espanol... pero no tiengo nolegia que usa me keyboard para preducia los lettres correcto
[05:40] <MMelanie> Holuuuuuuu :3
[05:41] <wilee-nilee> !es | MMelanie
[05:41] <alakoo> dr_willis: found an easier way, just installed classicmenu-indicator :)
[05:41] <Capprentice> hey speak english guys !
[05:41] <Capprentice> of go to regional channels.
[05:42] <binary_glitch> well he needs to watch his language in more than one way!
[05:43] <Capprentice> binary_glitch, do you have nepomuk server installed ?
[05:43] <binary_glitch> and ubottu was just directing us to the correct channel for Ubuntu in spanish
[05:43] <MMelanie> hello
[05:43] <binary_glitch> Hi
[05:44] <Capprentice> Where are all the ubi experts are gone ?! wtf.
[05:44] <binary_glitch> No, I have a few servers but not nepomuk
[05:44] <binary_glitch> Apache for most of my usage
[05:44] <wilee-nilee> !language | Capprentice
[05:44] <dr_willis> Capprentice:  it is almost 2 am in the usa. :) so this may  be a slow time
[05:44] <MMelanie> alguien habla español? estoy como una tonta desde el google traductor
[05:45] <MMelanie> alguien habla español? estoy como una tonta desde el google traductor
[05:45] <MMelanie> someone speaks Spanish? I'm like a fool from the google translator
[05:45] <Capprentice> dr_willis, oh I see. Here in India , its 11.15 AM :)
[05:45] <Cuken> Has anyone setup a succesful ZFS nas off of ubuntu server?
[05:46] <t3hb055nueb> link?
[05:46] <dr_willis> setting up a file server should be  fairly easy.. not sure how zfs figures into it. ;;)
[05:46] <dr_willis> !zfs
[05:47] <binary_glitch> I don't see Capprentice's mal language... if it's an abreviation like wt* that's the offince... how can it offend, If you know what it means.... um- hello (sarcasm) and if you don't than you will not be offinded would you...
[05:48] <dr_willis> keeping the channel kid friendly..  it was really a unneeded  abbrevation.
[05:48] <t3hb055nueb> Capprentice: how?
[05:48] <wilee-nilee> binary_glitch, the channel does not accept acronyms for swear words
[05:48] <izx> How to disable mDns service in ubuntu?
[05:49] <dr_willis> !info mdns
[05:49] <dr_willis> izx:  use upstart or the sysv scripts to tell it to not run, or uninstall it perhaps?
[05:50] <[LE]> Can any one help me in settng up a simple iptable to make my ubuntu server act as internet gateway
[05:50] <shmoon> hi dr_willis moving files from ntfs (windows) to ext3 (ubuntu), i wonder if there can be bad implications or not, like some metadata getting lost?
[05:51] <keith_> ububtu12-10 AMD 64. Firefox crashes when trying to login to internet banking ANZ Australia. Any help?
[05:51] <binary_glitch> yeah I get that but offence to acronems that include curse words (depending on interpitation) is not something that has ever made since to me, and I'm a father of 4 and a simi religious man...
[05:51] <dr_willis> shmoon:  i dont know what metadata ntfs has.. ive never had an issue moveing stuff from ntfs to ext2/3/4
[05:51] <shmoon> dr_willis: what about vfat to ext3 ?
[05:52] <binary_glitch> like what about rtfm.... it's often refered to as  Read The Friendly Manual
[05:52] <shmoon> i remember few weeks ago i moved data from windows (usb drive seems like usb is vfat) to my ubuntu and ost all permissions data
[05:52] <shmoon> the data on windows was previously moved from old ubuntu version only
[05:52] <shmoon> was basically upgrading ubuntu, so taking backups
[05:53] <dr_willis> shmoon:  any permissions.ownership and so forth of the files would be lost once you moved them to ntfs. since  ntfs dosent support the features
[05:53] <shmoon> oh
[05:53] <dr_willis> you dont chown/chmod files on a ntfs/vfat.
[05:53] <shmoon> i guess its same with moving to vfat
[05:54] <binary_glitch> I can see WTF and often interpret it as Why The For-mentioned
[05:54] <shmoon> aha so whats a better way of dealing with such problems?
[05:54] <dr_willis> binary_glitch:  let it drop man.. no one really cares.. its the channel rules..
[05:54] <dr_willis> shmoon:  tar them to an tar archive..  that will keep all linux info
[05:54] <aeon-ltd> why the face?
[05:54] <binary_glitch> true
[05:55] <shmoon> ah ok dr_willis sounds great
[05:55] <shmoon> thanks
[05:56] <shmoon> dr_willis: hm maybe they're not kept without -p, --preserve-permissions ?
[05:57] <dr_willis> you would need to use the right options to tar to tell it to keep them all i belive.
[05:57] <shmoon> hehe ok
[06:02] <binary_glitch> well I think I solved SteveX's issue... he never re-joined... it's been hours... (would have been nice to hear a 'it worked thx man') lol... well I'll be in #defocus if anyone needs me...
[06:09] <SecretFire> how do I pull up the system log in gedit through terminal?
[06:13] <yitz_> gedit file
[06:13] <passerine> SecretFire, gedit /var/log/syslog
[06:13] <SecretFire> ok thanks
[06:14] <SecretFire> I am having problems with xubuntu 12.10 randomly logging me out, I pastebin'd my dmesg output. Can someone help me figure out why this is happening? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5715157/
[06:18] <Tulipmillionaire> yo!
[06:18] <Tulipmillionaire> Can I donate to the Ubuntu project in bitcoins?
[06:18] <Savior> wow, there are a few people on here, good to see
[06:20]  * Savior waves
[06:20] <passerine> I don't know SecretFire, can you correlate it with anything by timestamp?  (If you have timestamps?  I don't see them.)
[06:21] <SecretFire> passerine : I don't quite understand
[06:21] <SecretFire> passerine : I have heard that it could be due to me having nvidia or x crashing
[06:22] <tiao> quit
[06:22] <passerine> ciao tiao
[06:23] <SecretFire> passerine : is there another system file I should be looking at?
[06:24] <passerine> SecretFire, maybe since it was random then knowing when it happened could help.  That's another possibility, too.
[06:25] <Test00> Hi everyone!
[06:25] <passerine> SecretFire have you looked in /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[06:26] <SecretFire> no i will though and in apport.log
[06:26] <passerine> hi Test00
[06:27] <SecretFire> passerine : Here are some timestamps http://paste.ubuntu.com/5715180/
[06:27] <SecretFire> it was x crashing
[06:28] <SecretFire> x is a wooly mammoth on toothpicks
[06:28] <passerine> now there's an image
[06:28] <SecretFire> what can i do with it?
[06:29] <wilee-nilee> with a feather boa ;)
[06:29] <SecretFire> it all happened at 10:57...lol
[06:31] <passerine> I don't know, maybe other logs can say if anything else happens just before it?
[06:31] <SecretFire> like the x log
[06:32] <linucs> Question guys
[06:32] <euroford> hi all, how to install firefox 32bit edtion in 64bit ubuntu?
[06:32] <linucs> Why is Ubuntu/Linux so slow compared to Windows? I'm talking about the interface
[06:33] <Lartza> linucs, It should be the opposite
[06:33] <Bodsda> linucs: seriously?
[06:33] <Lartza> linucs, Or maybe lack of drivers or Compiz effetcs that make it seems slow?
[06:33] <Lartza> *, or
[06:33] <SecretFire> windows sucks
[06:33] <linucs> Lartza. It's advertised that Linux is much faster, but when it comes to GUI, hell no
[06:33] <Test00>  that may be unity
[06:33] <Korbit> My password stopped working today so I tried changing it and I'm getting an error "Authentication token manipulation error" How do I fix this?
[06:33] <linucs> I've tested it on nvidia/amd cards with open and closed drivers
[06:33] <linucs> It's slow.
[06:34] <euroford> what's the package name of 32bit firefox in 64bit ubuntu?
[06:34] <Lartza> linucs, I can relate to that Ubuntu is not probably the fastest when it comes to desktop usage but it's certanily not slower than Windows
[06:34] <Bodsda> linucs: processor will also play a part - as will what DE you use
[06:34] <Lartza> I haven't used Unity though
[06:34] <rypervenche> linucs: So go back to Windows?
[06:35] <Bodsda> euroford: check this out - it's old, butshould still work - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1535867
[06:35] <linucs> rypervenche. I am on Windows, but I'd really like to use Linux. I can't since it's much slower when it comes to GUI
[06:35] <euroford> Bodsda: thanks
[06:35] <Lartza> linucs, If you want to stay in the Ubuntu game try Kubuntu or Xubuntu maybe to compare, otherwise there are lots to try from Debian to Gentoo, I myself prefer Arch and Gentoo
[06:35] <Bodsda> np
[06:35] <Lartza> linucs, Define slow?
[06:35] <Bodsda> +1 Gentoo
[06:35] <rypervenche> linucs: lol, it's only slow if you make it slow
[06:35] <linucs> laggy, choppy
[06:35] <rypervenche> +2 Gentoo
[06:35] <yitz_> Arch FTW
[06:35] <linucs> slow flashplayer performance
[06:36] <linucs> that's what I mean by slow
[06:36] <rypervenche> linucs: Adobe flash is not Linux.
[06:36] <MarkPit> linucs sounds like something is wrong, i am using ubuntu on a 5 year old laptop and it runs fine
[06:36] <Lartza> flashplayer performance is Adobe's fault
[06:36] <Lartza> linucs, Define laggy and choppy, that is pretty general still
[06:36] <linucs> MarkPit. I guss you never run Windows then
[06:36] <SecretFire> passerine : I replicated the error by running x
[06:37] <Korbit> I'm getting the error "Authentication token manipulation error
[06:37] <MarkPit> linucs i run windows more than linux
[06:37] <linucs> Lartza. When moving windows around? Minimizing? The cpu usage is crazy, and it lags
[06:37] <Lartza> linucs, I run Windows as my main Desktop but prefer Linux much over it, just gaming keeps me in Windows
[06:37] <linucs> On a quad core
[06:37] <kiwitinker1> just installed a game package with apparent success but it has no shown in menu?
[06:37] <Korbit> " when trying to change my password as root on the recovery console. The filesystem is mounted as rw. How do I fix it?
[06:37] <random_> Hi I am getting the following error while running sudo apt-get install for various packages, would be great if someone could suggest a fix http://paste.ubuntu.com/5715195/
[06:37] <Lartza> linucs, That definetly sounds like a driver issue, or an issue in Compiz or Unity
[06:38] <Lartza> linucs, Default desktop should be 3D accelerated so no CPU usage from Window handling
[06:38] <passerine> SecretFire, that's probably a good thing.  It's the ones that can't be replicated that are hardest to debug.
[06:38] <linucs> God no. I know how to install drivers. Like I said. OPen and Closed drivers, VSync on, SLOW. laggy
[06:38] <linucs> It's not smooth
[06:38] <linucs> I've used many DEs.
[06:38] <Lartza> linucs, Yeah I heard you, but something is definetly wrong and it should not be like that
[06:38] <kiwitinker1> nor do I know where it installed the game, how do I find it please?
[06:39] <SecretFire> passerine : http://paste.ubuntu.com/5715196/
[06:39] <Lartza> I only get slow performance in VirtualBox, for obvious reasons
[06:39] <Bodsda> Korbit: it sounds like the problem is that it's actually mounted ro - http://askubuntu.com/questions/91188/authentication-token-manipulation-error
[06:39] <linucs> Kde, Xfce, Gnome. Using opengl acceleration in gnome and kde, It's still not smooth
[06:39] <random_> Hi I am getting the following error while running sudo apt-get install for various packages, would be great if someone could suggest a fix http://paste.ubuntu.com/5715195/ Need it ASAP
[06:39] <ThatOneRoadie> Hmm
[06:39] <Bodsda> linucs: try fluxbox
[06:39] <linucs> Bodsda. I'm not really into that kind of DE
[06:39] <Korbit> Bodsda: I've verified that I can create and edit files on the drive. It's definitely mounted as rw
[06:39] <kiwitinker1> what directory would a game package be installed in?
[06:40] <ThatOneRoadie> GRUB Question: I get a message on boot: "Error: no such device: </dev/sda1 UUID> \n press any key to continue..."
[06:40] <ThatOneRoadie> and it boots fine.
[06:40] <ThatOneRoadie> any way to surpress that error message?
[06:40] <passerine> hmm, is that report /var/crash/_usr_bin_Xorg.0.crash readable at all?  SecretFire
[06:40] <Bodsda> Korbit: pastebin the output of  sudo fdisk -l   and   mount  and   sudo blkid   please
[06:40] <kiwitinker1> I'm a total beginner
[06:40] <ThatOneRoadie> the error shows up because the iSCSI drive it boots from hasn't mounted.
[06:41] <Lartza> linucs, I'll have to fire up my virtual machine now that you said Linux is slow ;)
[06:41] <linucs> lol
[06:41] <Bodsda> ThatOneRoadie: remove the entry from /etc/fstab
[06:41] <kiwitinker1> taken many hours to get to this point and now I finally have it installed i cannot find it to run it anyhow
[06:41] <SecretFire> passerine : http://paste.ubuntu.com/5715201/
[06:41] <Lartza> linucs, I don't like Ubuntu but I use it on VirtualBox and one of my servers has Ubuntu and that's why I am here :)
[06:41] <linucs> I'm sorry to say, but it's much slower!. tested on many machines, different distros, DEs. Doesn't even compare with W7's smoothness
[06:42] <Bodsda> kiwitinker1: what game?
[06:42] <linucs> Lartza,. This is not about Ubuntu, Ubuntu would be my last choice
[06:42] <kiwitinker1> why do you call me by my account name?
[06:42] <linucs> I like to have control on what's installed on my system. Arch all the way
[06:42] <ThatOneRoadie> Bodsda: so just yank "UUID=#####  /     ext4" from /etc/fstab?
[06:43] <SecretFire> passerine : it looks like it is having trouble loading drivers
[06:43] <Lartza> linucs, I've never had problems with Arch
[06:43] <Lartza> linucs, I usually use Openbox but GNOME too
[06:43] <Bodsda> kiwitinker1: because it highlights the line for you and shows everyone who I'm talking to
[06:43] <passerine> SecretFire, the lines marked with "(EE)" are errors.  If they can be resolved, it might help, maybe not.  I don't know.
[06:43] <linucs> Well, gnome lags even more than KDE to be honest
[06:43] <Bodsda> ThatOneRoadie: yep, if that drive doesn't exist anymore, there is no point trying to mount it on boot.
[06:43] <Lartza> linucs, GNOME3 yeah maybe
[06:43] <Lartza> linucs, It's the damn Shell...
[06:43] <ThatOneRoadie> Bodsda: Correction: so just yank "UUID=#####  /     ext4  errors=remount-ro 0   1" from /etc/fstab?
[06:43] <linucs> Well, gnome2 is deprecated
[06:43] <ThatOneRoadie> but it does exist
[06:44] <Lartza> linucs, Oh wow
[06:44] <SecretFire> passerine : damn, why does this have to be so complicated?
[06:44] <kiwitinker1> but you would use linuxbaby then, that's what everyone sees is it not
[06:44] <Lartza> linucs, JIggling my Chromium window around in VirtualBox makes all the four cores to 20% in Ubuntu :3
[06:44] <linucs> Lartza, ?
[06:44] <Bodsda> ThatOneRoadie: if thats the one it complains about on boot, then yes. Remove the whole line - or comment it out
[06:44] <ThatOneRoadie> that's what confuses me about the error. GRUB2 thinks that the UUID doesn't exist. Then it mounts the ISCSI drive, poof it exists, then it boots.
[06:44] <linucs> that's crazy
[06:44] <passerine> SecretFire, sorry I didn't see your line before.  Yes, it is.
[06:44] <Lartza> linucs, This is inside VM but yeah it is
[06:44] <SecretFire> passerine : what driver should I use, maybe installing one will fix issue?
[06:45] <linucs> I don't know what to say
[06:45] <Korbit> Bodsda: I can't login on that computer because it won't accept my password, so I'm on the recovery console. How can I get the output of those commands into a text file?
[06:45] <passerine> SecretFire, I think it depends on your video card.  Even then I don't know.
[06:45] <Lartza> linucs, 45% CPU usage measured from Windows when I move a window inside Ubuntu inside VirtualBox :D
[06:45] <kiwitinker1> what's your hidden agenda bodsda
[06:45] <linucs> Linux has always been slow to me when it comes to GUI. Definitely not the HW or drivers.
[06:45] <Lartza> "Idle" is 8-15
[06:46] <Bodsda> Korbit: install pastebinit then pipe it.    sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit
[06:46] <Lartza> WHat command does list the 3D unity supported stuff etc?
[06:46] <linucs> I have no idea.
[06:46] <ali4ever4> how to know the current system statistics ? current RAM , CPU usage any thing like task manager ?! how to get to it
[06:46] <linucs> Could you try the cpu usage of moving windows in Windows?
[06:46] <Lartza> Certainly
[06:46] <linucs> mine reaches 15 % on a quad
[06:46] <Bodsda> ali4ever4: htop
[06:46] <linucs> but it's smooth
[06:47] <Lartza> linucs, Oh hang on it lowers all my windows ;)
[06:47] <Lartza> linucs, Well the thing is mine is smooth on the VM too
[06:47] <ThatOneRoadie> Bodsda: Let me clarify - this is a SAN Boot of Ubuntu. Grub looks like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5715209/
[06:47] <Lartza> Not 100% smooth due to it being virtual but
[06:47] <linucs> Weird.
[06:47] <ali4ever4> Bodsda, well installing it now by apt-get
[06:47] <kiwitinker1> why don't you just say what your problem is bodsda
[06:47] <linucs> Looks like I'm not the only one: http://cboard.cprogramming.com/brief-history-cprogramming-com/10770-linuxs-gui-slower-than-windows.html
[06:48] <Bodsda> ThatOneRoadie: erm... fair enough. Good luck :)
[06:48] <ThatOneRoadie> lmfao
[06:48] <Lartza> linucs, Moving a window in Windows only makes my GPU 5% or slow more in use
[06:48] <Korbit> Bodsda: apt-get gives me the error "Could not resolve 'us.archive.ubuntu.com" I don't think the recovery console is connecting to my network.
[06:48] <ThatOneRoadie> are the search commands required on Grub, or can I strip them out?
[06:48] <Lartza> linucs, I am sporting a i3-540 hyperthreaded dual-core btw
[06:48] <linucs> See? Used less resources than linux
[06:48] <linucs> Thanks for confirming!
[06:49] <Lartza> linucs,  /usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p
[06:49] <Lartza> linucs, Yeah but it's  on a VM I'd have to run this properly to be accurate really
[06:49] <ThatOneRoadie> Korbit: edit /etc/resolv in your favorite text editor. It should be blank. Add: (no quotes) "nameserver 208.67.222.222"
[06:49] <ali4ever4> Bodsda, thanks thats very nice, well chrome browser is killing my RAM i thought it is the reason from the begining
[06:49] <Lartza> linucs, Also no lag apart from the VM lag so that is invalid for me at least
[06:49] <Lartza> Just more resource usage
[06:49] <ThatOneRoadie> Korbit: then save it, close it, and try apt-get again
[06:49] <Bodsda> Korbit: hmm. Got some problems then. run    sudo fdisk -l | grep -i " / "   and see if it's mounted rw or ro
[06:50] <Lartza> Unity 3D supported:       yes
[06:50] <linucs> Lartza, nvidia or Amd Gfx card?
[06:50] <Lartza> linucs, Radeon HD 7750
[06:50] <Bodsda> ali4ever4: by chrome browser, you meant chromium-browser yeah?
[06:50] <linucs> oh no
[06:50] <linucs> Amd is even worse in Linux
[06:50] <Lartza> The most high-end no PSU power cable card
[06:50] <Lartza> :P
[06:50] <linucs> Open source drivers?
[06:50] <Lartza> linucs, Yeah but it uses the vbox driver
[06:50] <Lartza> linucs, vboxvideo
[06:50] <Lartza> :)
[06:50] <Lartza> This is why it's not a fair comparison
[06:50] <linucs> Well, it seems like you need really high end hardware to enjoy computing under linux
[06:51] <ali4ever4> Bodsda, well know i installed Google's chrome browser , is chromium better in RAM managment ?!
[06:51] <Lartza> linucs, I have ran Ubuntu on a Pentium 4 and Nvidia FX5500 128mb with no lag so... no :/
[06:51] <linucs> Lartza. Funny, it lags on my quad core with 7670m
[06:51] <Bodsda> ali4ever4: not but its open source and therefore makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside :)
[06:51] <Bodsda> not=no
[06:52] <Lartza> Also lower than that... P3 I think 866Mhz crunchbanglinux (Ubunut-based) with Openbox and Arch with Openbox
[06:52] <ausnahmefehler> hello everybody. is here anybody that could help me (beginner) with a simple shell script?
[06:52] <linucs> never been smooth,. One of the many things linux is a no-go for me
[06:52] <Bodsda> linucs: I've run a pentium3 with 256mb RAM without any performance problems using puppylinux
[06:52] <ali4ever4> Bodsda, lol thats true  :) but i wanted the same chrome experiance i had on windows :) , any idea of good browser which eats less RAM , is firefox better in this way ?!
[06:52] <Lartza> linucs, There's something wrong about the lag you experience surely
[06:52] <Bodsda> ausnahmefehler: paste away, someone may be able to help
[06:52] <SecretFire> passerine : does this look like the answer http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1921178.html
[06:53] <linucs> Lartza, Maybe too much attention to details. But I can't suffer lag, I'm sorry
[06:53] <Bodsda> ali4ever4: unfortunately, after a while, they all suck at RAM management
[06:53] <Lartza> linucs, Yeah it's fine, I don't judge people ;) I am doomed to using Windows myself so
[06:53] <Lartza> :P
[06:53] <Bodsda> linucs: stay away from win8 then :)
[06:53] <ali4ever4> Bodsda, well thanks a lot for the help
[06:53] <Lartza> Bodsda, It's not lagging
[06:54] <Bodsda> its not working either
[06:54] <Lartza> I have a legit Windows8 even...
[06:54] <Lartza> :D
[06:54] <ThatOneRoadie> Bodsda: Aha, fixed it XD
[06:54] <linucs> Bodsda. Win8 is actually smoother than w7
[06:54] <ThatOneRoadie> just dumped the if-else search from Grub2
[06:54] <Kent-> I dated a guy named "Ubuntu" once
[06:54] <Lartza> linucs, Not buy much really, and for me it uses more resources
[06:54] <Kent-> he used to "play the bongos" on my ass
[06:54] <Bodsda> linucs: oh dear.
[06:54] <ThatOneRoadie> Korbit: any luck?
[06:54] <Lartza> linucs, But it could be like linuxatemyram, to make it more responsive :P
[06:54] <Korbit> Bodsda: fdisk doesn't seem to tell me how the drive is mounted. Did you mean "mount|grep -i "/""?
[06:55] <Bodsda> haha, nice Myrtti
[06:55] <ThatOneRoadie> I feel mistreated D:
[06:55] <linucs> possible
[06:55]  * ThatOneRoadie ducks
[06:55] <Bodsda> Korbit: no, the spaces where important - the end of the line should be something like (rw,someotherstuff,errors=ro)
[06:55] <Bodsda> ThatOneRoadie: how?
[06:56] <ausnahmefehler> Ok. I am doing a little shell script, lets say as an example for dd' ing a harddisk. so the command would be "dd if=xxxx and so on...." Now I wanted to create a menu, that shows me the harddisks (like fdisk -l but with less infos) (sda 320 GB for example) and that lets me choose which harddisk to take. My problem is to get the menu
[06:56] <kiwitinker1> when you add a package where is it installed to?
[06:56] <passerine> SecretFire, there's a lot there and some of it pretty specific.  I have not had much experience with X crashes or graphics drivers in general.
[06:56] <ThatOneRoadie> Bodsda: The if-then-else loop in GRUB2 is only there to speed kernel loading by searching for the drive directly
[06:56] <Bodsda> ausnahmefehler: check out zenity
[06:56] <ThatOneRoadie> it's moot if the drive is not local though, and this drive isn't
[06:56] <SecretFire> hmm
[06:56] <ThatOneRoadie> so out it goes!
[06:56] <Lartza> ausnahmefehler, +1 for zenity
[06:56] <Bodsda> ThatOneRoadie: ahhh. good to know :)
[06:57] <ThatOneRoadie> No errors; It's so fast I don't even see grub
[06:57] <ThatOneRoadie> takes about 30 seconds XD
[06:57] <Bodsda> linux boot loaders ftw
[06:57] <octu> o
[06:57] <Lartza> Bodsda, Oh but did he want a non-GUI?
[06:57] <ausnahmefehler> Bodsda : I should be only for console.. I do not need any X-Server
[06:57] <ThatOneRoadie> from "I'm booting virtualbox" to "and now I'm in Linux, using a hard drive located 4 miles away"
[06:57] <Lartza> Yeah :)
[06:57] <octu> hello
[06:57] <Bodsda> Lartza: I hope not, zenity is awesome for this use
[06:57] <ThatOneRoadie> My pet project is complete :D
[06:58] <ausnahmefehler> how do I cut for example the output of "fdisk -l" so that there remains only disk /dev/sda 320GB
[06:58] <Bodsda> ThatOneRoadie: sweet!
[06:58] <ali4ever4> Bodsda, i would like to how much each network each application is using this don't feel like possible in htop is it ? any good application for that ?
[06:58] <ausnahmefehler> awk does not work because it is in several lines...
[06:58] <Bodsda> ausnahmefehler: some fancy grep and awk commands probably - paste your output and I'll have a look
[06:59] <Lartza> ausnahmefehler, whiptail or dialog are the complicated options
[06:59] <Korbit> Bodsda:  /dev/sda5 on / type ext4 (rw,errors=remount-ro) that's the output from mount. I don't see anything like that in the output from fdisk.
[06:59] <octu> china
[06:59] <Lartza> ausnahmefehler, To show fancy menus that is :P
[06:59] <ausnahmefehler> how do I use this pastebin? I am new to IRC
[06:59] <Bodsda> Korbit: hmm, looks mounted fine to me
[06:59] <Guest97352> i know you guys are going to hate me for asking this one
[07:00] <Bodsda> ali4ever4: search unity for 'system monitor'
[07:00] <Bodsda> Guest97352: don't ask then
[07:00] <ThatOneRoadie> Bodsda: My just-completed pet project: Insert a 1mb cd into any computer. This CD contains iPXE. iPXE chainloads an iPXE script from my SAN Server that loads the ubuntu drive as an iSCSI SAN Device. Grub2 Loads, gets a DHCP-assigned IP, reconnects to iSCSI SAN Drive, then passes that just-connected drive up to kernel. Kernel, without disconnecting, loads iSCSI Drive as / and boots. I now have
[07:00] <ThatOneRoadie> a Persistent Live CD on a 1MB disk
[07:00] <Lartza> ausnahmefehler, http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[07:00] <ThatOneRoadie> f%#k yeah, linux
[07:00] <BlackWeb> Just curious is there a way to setup vsftp to encrypt Usernames, & Password but not Actual date during FTP Transfers? Or if I point the FTP Client to the SSH Port, is it setup that way by Default to encrypt Credentials but Not Data?
[07:00] <Guest97352> Bodsda: its about tpm specific bootloader problems
[07:00] <ausnahmefehler> thank you. here it is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5715230/
[07:00] <Bodsda> ThatOneRoadie: I wish my boss would give me a week to mess about with stuff like that :)
[07:00] <Bodsda> Guest97352: tpm? doesnt mean anything to me
[07:00] <Guest97352> oh :/
[07:01] <Lartza> Bodsda, A Trusted Platform Module is a "Security Chip" which is built in many modern PCs.
[07:01] <ausnahmefehler> And I just want "Disk: sda 2000GB" for example
[07:01] <Guest97352> thats the trusted platform module, used for signing and passing keys along to the OS or whereever
[07:01] <ThatOneRoadie> Now
[07:01] <ThatOneRoadie> total shot in the dark here
[07:01] <ThatOneRoadie> but is there any way to do a full-disk encryption post-install?
[07:01] <Guest97352> Lartza: It's not really built in, surprisingly in a lot of machines
[07:01] <Bodsda> Lartza: how have I not heard about this? /me is googling now
[07:01] <Lartza> Bodsda, I haven't either, googled :)
[07:02] <Lartza> *hadn't
[07:02] <Bodsda> :)
[07:02] <Guest97352> Yeah it's not in many machines, you usually have a TPM connector on your motherboard if its for a workstation or server.
[07:02] <Bodsda> ThatOneRoadie: not for / unfortunately
[07:02] <ThatOneRoadie> damn
[07:02] <ThatOneRoadie> ah well
[07:02] <Guest97352> You have to usually order a tpm chip to add.
[07:02] <ThatOneRoadie> I'll reinstall without touching grub later
[07:03] <Nmbr1> Bodsda/Lartza: tpm is used in many of the newer dell machines. you configure it in the bios and in the case of dell oem configs protects the fingerprint/biometric data store
[07:03] <ThatOneRoadie> for now, I'll firewall the SAN so that only local users can access it. That way internet trolls won't portscan and futz with my drive
[07:03] <Guest97352> If you are interested, look up Intel TXT, and Secure Boot (A very controversal protocol)
[07:03] <Nmbr1> ^ just 1 example
[07:03] <Bodsda> Nmbr1: i've just been building some new dell laptops, and lenovo's - I;ll do some searching when I get to the office
[07:03] <Guest97352> I will say a lot of dell's I've seen in my time in the government had TPM's already on them.
[07:03] <Lartza> Guest97352, Secure boot I've heard of sadly...
[07:04] <Bodsda> +1
[07:04] <Guest97352> Yeah, I'm not sure why a certfificate like that needs to be open.
[07:04] <Guest97352> Anywho my problem
[07:05] <Guest97352> I have a bootloader which has lost its transparency key, used to decrypt the drive.
[07:05] <ali4ever4> Bodsda, got to try nethogs looks like it can show me traffic per application
[07:06] <Bodsda> ali4ever4: ah, per app sorry - I don't know, but thanks for the info - I'll check out nethogs as well
[07:06] <Nmbr1> ali4ever4: you could also use something like untangle's application protocol to log/block application specific network traffic
[07:06] <Guest97352> Could a TPM revoke a key on it's own I wonder.
[07:06] <ali4ever4> Nmbr1: well i didnt get that , i am kind of new to linux world
[07:08] <Nmbr1> ali4ever4: no worries - untangle is a free hardware based firewall that is build on top of an Ubuntu core
[07:08] <Guest97352> I mean doesn't the order of the booting go from UEFI firmware - > UEFI boot management - > tpm exchange - > efi third party - > os bootloader - > kernel?
[07:09] <Lartza> Guest97352, tpm_revokeek clears the TPM revocable Endorsement Key Pair (via the TPM_RevokeEndorsementKey API). This command erases all counters (except the base one), erases the Ek, the SRK, the owner auth and any NVRAM locked to the owner auth. It does not touch the delegation tables or other NVRAM.
[07:09] <Lartza> Would that be enough?
[07:09] <Jordan_U> Guest97352: I very much doubt that your machine has a TPM (note that secure boot does *not* involve a TPM).
[07:10] <Nmbr1> Guest97352: you can also go into the BIOS and turn off/clear the tpm keys and reboot
[07:10] <Guest97352> I can't do that I've already used the tpm for drive encryption :/
[07:10] <ali4ever4> Nmbr1, Thanks will check it out hopefully without breaking down my michine :)
[07:10] <Nmbr1> if you are using biometric authethentication for the OS that is protect by tpm and you don't change the login settings you will screw yourself
[07:10] <Nmbr1> ^ yep
[07:11] <Guest97352> Jordan_U: Don't jump to conclusions I installed the tpm myself, and I configured it :p
[07:11] <Guest97352> Well the problem isn't the passwords, it's the keys.
[07:11] <euroford> the package name of 32bit firefox in 64bit ubunut is firefox:i386
[07:11] <Jordan_U> Guest97352: Sorry. On a separate note, you might want to change your nick.
[07:12] <NotAGuest> Hmm
[07:12] <NotAGuest> I do know where they could be, but if they are overwritten what is the liklihood I could recover them?
[07:12] <NotAGuest> it's a 100MB efi partition
[07:13] <Nmbr1> ali4ever4: if you need any help with it, feel free to ask. it doesn't require much in the way of hardware except you need to nics.
[07:13] <Nmbr1> ^ runs on its own box
[07:13] <Korbit> To reiterate: I am logged into the recovery console as root because my password is not being accepted. / is mounted as rw, and when I try to use passwd to reset my password I get the error "authentication token manipulation error".
[07:13] <ThatOneRoadie> Bodsda: now that headless-SAN-booting is working
[07:13] <ThatOneRoadie> time to buy one of these and kick it into overdrive: http://www.rackmountpro.com/products/storage/jbod/details/&pnum=1JB9ZZZ0ST0
[07:13] <ThatOneRoadie> XD
[07:13] <Bodsda> ThatOneRoadie: got any jobs going?
[07:14] <Bodsda> :)
[07:14] <ThatOneRoadie> noooope :(
[07:14] <ali4ever4> Nmbr1, thanks will be asking a lot when trying it currently nethogs is great for my purpose
[07:14] <ThatOneRoadie> this was a shits-and-giggles free time project
[07:14] <Bodsda> ThatOneRoadie: without a budget?
[07:14] <ThatOneRoadie> AKA "What Sysadmins do when they're bored."
[07:14] <ThatOneRoadie> zero budget
[07:14] <ThatOneRoadie> everything I just did was free
[07:14] <Jordan_U> NotAGuest: I missed the original question. Could you summarize what you're trying to do?
[07:14] <Bodsda> ThatOneRoadie: except now your asking for a few thousand for a disk tray
[07:14] <ThatOneRoadie> from the SAN to the Server (an old ProLiant) to the drives (two 15k RPM SCSI drives)
[07:15] <ThatOneRoadie> yeah, now I want to put it into production XD
[07:15] <Bodsda> :)
[07:15] <ThatOneRoadie> "Everything else is FREE! I just need a big old disk tray and about $18,000 in SAS Disks to populate it!"
[07:16] <NotAGuest> Jordan_U: I guess at this point, I am going to recover the keys that are missing. What would be the best way to find deleted or overwritten keys?
[07:16] <Bodsda> ThatOneRoadie: I'm sure it is "An operational requirement to improve the company's ability to maintain 99.9% uptim whilst also ensuring optimum performance to customers."
[07:16] <ThatOneRoadie> lmfao
[07:17] <ThatOneRoadie> sadly, I've used that excuse this quarter
[07:17] <Bodsda> haha :)
[07:17] <NotAGuest> What kind of cases are you using ThatOneRoadie
[07:18] <ThatOneRoadie> for 10GigE and 10gig Fiber throughout our campus XD
[07:18] <ThatOneRoadie> we have 10gig trunks to every building XD
[07:18] <Bodsda> :( /me has a 1gb backbone
[07:18] <ThatOneRoadie> our main internet line is 1G duplex
[07:18] <NotAGuest> :/ has 50TB array with crappy comcast backbone
[07:19] <Bodsda> 48TB EqualLogic nearlines
[07:19] <ThatOneRoadie> but we also have a 10gig multiplexed loop around the state and a couple of 300meg metro ethernet backups
[07:19] <NotAGuest> What raid controllers do you use?
[07:19] <ThatOneRoadie> NotAGuest: Cases?
[07:19] <NotAGuest> Yeah as in the server cases used to toss drives in
[07:19] <ThatOneRoadie> ah
[07:19] <NotAGuest> like for ex I use norco
[07:19] <simpleuser> Hello there.
[07:20] <Bodsda> hi
[07:20] <ThatOneRoadie> Our SAN guy could tell you more, but we have a few ProLiant systems, a few racks worth of Dell PowerEdge servers
[07:20] <ThatOneRoadie> Pretty much anything in our budget
[07:20] <NotAGuest> ahhh, I build my own
[07:20] <Jordan_U> NotAGuest: I think that's pretty much impossible by design. TPMs are made to store keys securely, so you won't be able to just read blocks of the flash that haven't been overwritten yet like you would with a drive. I guess there is a chance that your TPM will specifically have a feature for restoring recently deleted keys, but beyond that I expect you're out of luck.
[07:20] <ThatOneRoadie> I'm just a lowly NOC Engineer XD
[07:20] <Bodsda> We're a dell shop - everything from 1650's through to R910's
[07:20] <ThatOneRoadie> NOC engineer, sysadmin, handyman, and right-hand to the head of IT
[07:20] <ThatOneRoadie> XD
[07:21] <ThatOneRoadie> and when I'm not doing that, I'm an Audio Engineer for huge concert tours
[07:21] <ThatOneRoadie> think: Green Day or Trans-Siberian Orchestra
[07:21] <NotAGuest> Well that's the weird thing Jordan_U, I have the tpm recovery key, but I'm not sure how to extract the other keys.
[07:21] <ThatOneRoadie> Now that I think about it... I lead an interesting life.
[07:22] <ThatOneRoadie> bahaha
[07:23] <ThatOneRoadie> I just looked at our current network utilization
[07:23] <ThatOneRoadie> I think some people on campus are torrenting XD
[07:23] <k1l> ThatOneRoadie: we have #ubuntu-offtopic for regular chat
[07:23] <ThatOneRoadie> aha
[07:23] <NotAGuest> I was about to sa
[07:23] <simpleuser> Here is my problem : I have many folders, each one containing mp3 constituting an album. Each folder is called "blablabla - Album n°X" where X is a number and the only thing to change between folders. I'd like that every mp3 in these folders has in its album id3tag the name of its folder. Do you think it's possible ? If yes, how ?
[07:23] <xhgordon> Any of you guys know if there is a mac specific ubuntu channel kicking around?
[07:24] <auronandace> !mac | xhgordon
[07:27] <Jordan_U> simpleuser: Yes, using fairly simple bash scripting. I need to leave now but I could write a script to do it for you tomorrow, or someone else could help, or you could research for yourself to find a terminal based mp3 metadata editor and learn some basic bash (#bash and the tutorials linked in its topic are very helpful).
[07:28] <tiao> when i shutdown my ubuntu,it shows "can't open /etc/init.d/ .depend.stop, no such file or directory",what can i do
[07:28] <simpleuser> Jordan_U: ok it seems like a good idea... I'll try to do it... Thanks for your help and advice :). Don't worry i'll do it myself. It's very kind.
[07:33] <tiao> i need help
[07:34] <impossibru> I had a boyfriend named Ubuntu once.
[07:34] <impossibru> he would "play the bongos" on my ass
[07:34] <Oddity> cool
[07:39] <tiao> i've google it ,but the problem still exists
[07:40] <tiao> guys?
[07:41] <contrapunctus> impossibru: err...wat
[07:47] <tiao> hello?
[07:47] <contrapunctus> !ask | tiao
[07:51] <BlackWeb> Has anyone ever got SSL to work with vsftpd
[07:52] <t3hb055nueb> just got a Ti-84 calculator, ubuntu does.. my usb does not recognize it at all.
[07:53] <CodeRunner> anyone have experiance creating a ppp link between a ubuntu machine and a device over a serial port?
[07:56] <CoolCoder> I have a serious issue. I am not sure why my ubuntu says always Disk full. I have 360 GB disc and multipartitioned dual boot on windows 7. Can anyone help me to add more space to my ubuntu root folder.
[07:56] <CoolCoder> http://oi50.tinypic.com/687gwo.jpg
[07:56] <CoolCoder> http://oi47.tinypic.com/foeo8y.jpg
[07:56] <CoolCoder> http://oi50.tinypic.com/2i900.jpg
[07:56] <FloodBot1> CoolCoder: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:57] <dr_willis>  and how big is your /  CoolCoder ?
[07:58] <CoolCoder> can i share the gparted screenshot?
[07:58] <jhattara> CoolCoder: in terminal type df -h and share the output
[07:58] <BlackWeb> Has anyone used SSL with VSFTP,
[07:58] <t3hb055nueb> trying to link my ti 84. got this. [sudo] password for t3hb055:
[07:58] <t3hb055nueb> patching file /lib/udev/rules.d/45-libticables.rules
[07:58] <t3hb055nueb> Hunk #1 FAILED at 2.
[07:58] <t3hb055nueb> 1 out of 1 hunk FAILED -- saving rejects to file /lib/udev/rules.d/45-libticables.rules.rej
[07:58] <FloodBot1> t3hb055nueb: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:59] <BlackWeb> After creating RSA Key then I'm running into the Error 500 OOPS: SSL: cannot load RSA certificate
[07:59] <CoolCoder> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5715337/
[07:59] <dr_willis> CoolCoder:  pasteing text files is better..
[07:59] <BlackWeb> But the Key is there vsftpd.pem
[07:59] <t3hb055nueb> [sudo] password for t3hb055:
[07:59] <dr_willis> CoolCoder:  so you are using a wubi install?
[07:59] <t3hb055nueb> patching file /lib/udev/rules.d/45-libticables.rules
[07:59] <t3hb055nueb> Hunk #1 FAILED at 2.
[07:59] <t3hb055nueb> 1 out of 1 hunk FAILED -- saving rejects to file /lib/udev/rules.d/45-libticables.rules.rej
[07:59] <FloodBot1> t3hb055nueb: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:00] <t3hb055nueb> sry
[08:00] <CoolCoder> yes
[08:00] <t3hb055nueb> Can anyone help me?
[08:00] <dr_willis> you should have mentioned that to begin with. ;)  theres guides out there on resizeing a wubi hd image file.. but i dont use wubi. and i dont reccomend using wubi.
[08:00] <snoppy> hi all!
[08:01] <Nmbr1> dr_willis: +1
[08:01] <Nmbr1> wubi has issues with stability
[08:01] <CoolCoder> dr_willis: Is there any way to resize the root. I am in the middle of so manythings. So cant reinstall this
[08:01] <mattnie> use a live cd and resize it ;)
[08:01] <Nmbr1> CoolCoder: i tried wubi with win7 and would reguarly need to run check disk
[08:02] <dr_willis> CoolCoder:  you dont resize from within the booted wubi setup as far as  i know.
[08:02] <Nmbr1> i would reccomend either a vm or a parallel install
[08:02] <snoppy> hey, people! Yesterday I faced the problem with print screen in ubuntu 12.04
[08:02] <snoppy> Print Screen key doesn't work if a drop-down menu is active
[08:02] <sonofzeus> hi
[08:02] <dr_willis> CoolCoder:  you coul dmake a   ext2/3/4 filesystem within a file and mount it via the loop back featrure.. and have some space to put stuff.. or just move unneeded stuff to the windows drives main partition
[08:02] <snoppy> Does anybody has the same problem?
[08:02] <CoolCoder> Nmbr1: need to reinstall. or there is no way to resize this root?
[08:03] <wilee-nilee> snoppy, You can set a delay and trigger the dropdown
[08:03] <sonofzeus> my lubuntu says connecting but doesnt connect?
[08:03] <CoolCoder> dr_willis: any links to share for help. I am not so experienced in doing this.
[08:03] <sonofzeus> it has lxde core installed
[08:04] <dr_willis> CoolCoder:  on doing what? you can move stuff over to your windows /host/  drive  eaially enough.
[08:04] <wilee-nilee> snoppy, using the screenshot tool.
[08:04] <snoppy> wilee-nilee: hmm... how can I do it?
[08:04] <dr_willis> CoolCoder:  that would be the easiest way to free up some space
[08:04] <snoppy> oh
[08:04] <snoppy> I see
[08:05] <snoppy> now try to)
[08:05] <CoolCoder> dr_willis:  And one more thing i forgot to mention. I have very few additional files. around 3 or 3 gb max on ubuntu
[08:06] <dr_willis> CoolCoder:  move unneeded junk over to /media/sda8  whatever that is. perhaps.. your windows drive is almost full also
[08:06] <dr_willis> CoolCoder:  your ubuntu wubi install is all on 15gb of space.. so 3ggb is like 1/5 of your total space...
[08:07] <dr_willis> i really have to wonder at how your disk is partioned.. having a sda8 is a little.. odd. you have so many little partions
[08:07] <snoppy> wilee-nilee: thanks!
[08:08] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[08:08] <CoolCoder> dr_wills: "your ubuntu wubi install is all on 15gb of space" this is what I am confused. I have added more space while creating OS.
[08:08] <Jpmh> what ap should I use to grab an image using the onboard camera
[08:08] <MonkeyDust> ah wubi
[08:08] <dr_willis> CoolCoder:  i dont know where/how you added more space..
[08:08] <dr_willis> it shows / as being 15gb and 97% full.
[08:08] <mattnie> Jmph: cheese
[08:08] <dr_willis> CoolCoder:  pastebin the output of 'sudo blkid' perhaps
[08:09] <CoolCoder> http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[08:10] <dr_willis> try again. ;)
[08:10] <Jpmh> mattnie: ty - will pull docs
[08:10] <CoolCoder> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5715355/
[08:11] <dr_willis> CoolCoder:  if you look.. you will see that sda8 is linux formated.. but not really being used.. unless you copy stuff to it..
[08:12] <dr_willis> i dont know what you got on sda8 - but its 1/3 full.
[08:13] <CoolCoder> I dont have many stuff to copy. its all the linux files i think. I ahve been using ubuntu for some text file works. But really, can we add those spaces to the ubuntu?
[08:14] <dr_willis> CoolCoder:  you dont merge a partion into a wubi hd file...
[08:14] <dr_willis> CoolCoder:  you need to figure out what you can move over to sda8 to free up space on your  / partition.  somting is taking up 15gb of space..
[08:14] <dr_willis> sudo apt-get clean, and sudo apt-get autoremove   may clean up some space.
[08:14] <Jpmh> mattnie: I grabbed cheese - the man page is worthless - any info on it - I should add I really want to do this from the command line
[08:14] <dr_willis> also i would check /var/logs to remove any old log files
[08:16] <CoolCoder> "also i would check /var/logs to remove any old log files"
[08:16] <CoolCoder> you need file?
[08:16] <dr_willis> if you dont have a need for the old log files, remove them. they can take up a lot of space
[08:17] <CoolCoder> var/log is empty
[08:17] <dr_willis>    thats very very weird that /var/log would be empty
[08:18] <CoolCoder> sorry. not empty
[08:18] <kewel> what is the 'OEM install' on the 12.04 alternate install disc?
[08:18] <CoolCoder> do u mean, i need to clear that log file?
[08:18] <dr_willis> theres dozens of log files in /var/log   see if any are very large.. and remove any old ones.
[08:19] <dr_willis> or if you want to get hard core.. remove them all. ;) but thats a little extreme
[08:19] <CoolCoder> how to remove all log files. i dont want that
[08:20] <dr_willis> you use the rm command.. same as you delete any other file.. 'you dont want what?'
[08:20] <kewel> nm. oem install asks personal questions upon first boot.. as if you bought it that way.  derr
[08:20] <kewel> hi
[08:20] <dr_willis> any file with a .gz or a .2 or .3 extension would be an older log file
[08:20] <dr_willis> and could be deleted
[08:20] <CoolCoder> i dont want log files so far
[08:21] <kiwitinker1> I don't know how to issue a command to start a game in console, I'm in the right directory etc..., I just don't know how you start a command to run. It's a .386 file, I have tried to look for examples elsewhere but it seems something so basic is not thought of to explain
[08:22] <dr_willis> kiwitinker1:  the phrase 'its a .386' file' makes no sence.
[08:22] <CoolCoder> dr_willis: other than wubi, is there any way for dual install?
[08:22] <vlt> kiwitinker1: What does `file <the_file.386` tell you?
[08:22] <CoolCoder> i mean dual boot
[08:22] <dr_willis> CoolCoder:  trhe normal install process does a dual boot setup.
[08:22] <vlt> kiwitinker1: What does *`file <the_file.386>` tell you? Without "< >" of course.
[08:22] <kiwitinker1> nothing, just included it in case someone asked for some reason
[08:22] <dr_willis> theres really no need for wubi unless you CANT repartiion your hd.. which you HAVE done...
[08:23] <dr_willis> kiwitinker1:  if the game name is  'foobar' you can run it with ./foobar   if the file is executable and a normal linux binary
[08:23] <kewel> off to install! later taters
[08:24] <CoolCoder> dr_willis: if i want to remove wubi and install ubnutu, can i get backup everything i have now and restore?
[08:24] <kiwitinker1> including the full stop, i.e "./"
[08:25] <dr_willis> !backup
[08:26] <dr_willis> kiwitinker1:  full stop? err.. thats the exact PATH to the file.  ./  mean 'in the local directory;
[08:26] <dr_willis> kiwitinker1:  or you could do /path/to/whever/the/file/is/foobar
[08:26] <kiwitinker1> thanks, that did it, after more than an hour going no where solved just like that
[08:27] <dr_willis> kiwitinker1:  it may be worth reading some bash guides.. that would have been  mentioned in an early chapter i imagine. ;)
[08:27] <dr_willis> for security reasons the 'current directory' is NOT included in the default path.
[08:28] <kiwitinker1> that will come dr_willis
[08:33] <Syria> Hello, I have a remote VPS, I usually create an ssh tunnel and browse internet using it with command "ssh -D 'port' user@host" my question is can I apply these settings system wide using the terminal? I am talking about the socks proxy and port settings.
[08:37] <dr_willis> you could setup a vpn on the vps i belive...    but ive never done that.
[08:38] <CoolCoder> dr_willis: other than wubi, which one to download to install on windows as dual partition? When i try the download link, wubi is getting
[08:39] <MonkeyDust> CoolCoder  mind : http://www.pcworld.com/article/2033316/ubuntu-13-04-raring-ringtail-drops-wubi-in-final-beta.html
[08:40] <dr_willis> CoolCoder:  you are confuseing terms i think...   WUBI is a special way you can install ubuntu.. its a windows intaller basically that makes a ubuntu virtual hd file..  any ubuntu disrto can do a normal dual boot.. wubi is the 'odd ball' way of doing things
[08:41] <dr_willis> CoolCoder:  i would suggest forgetting wubi even exists and never use it again.
[08:41] <MonkeyDust> CoolCoder  wubi is merely a pseudo-installing
[08:41] <MonkeyDust> CoolCoder  wubi is merely a pseudo-installation*
[08:41] <dr_willis> get a normal ubuntu desktop iso file.. burn it to dvd/cd/usb and boot it and do a normal install
[08:41] <MonkeyDust> CoolCoder  wubi is not "the real thing"
[08:42] <CoolCoder> ok
[08:42]  * dr_willis will be glad when wubi dies.
[08:42] <dr_willis> and right now.. it looks like its in the crosshairs :)
[08:42]  * MonkeyDust already using 13.04, RIP wubi
[08:42] <CoolCoder> that made me *****, Now i think i need to reinstall again. I fear data loss. both existing ubuntu or windows. But i think i have to do it
[08:43] <dr_willis> CoolCoder:  if you feart data loss... MAKE BACKUPS of the data thats imporntant....
[08:43] <dr_willis> really - what data do you have to backup thatss critical?
[08:43] <CoolCoder> ok
[08:45] <dr_willis> your wubi install is on a 15gb partition.. you can back that whole thing up to a $10 usb flash drive
[08:46] <Kekke> Hello everyone, I have an ubuntu server running LAMP, in apaches /var/www I have sub directories with users, i.e. /var/www/kekke/www/, this www folder is owned by the user Kekke with the group sftpuser, my group sftpuser gives the users access to the folder through sftp (their home dir is set to /var/www/user/www/). But when I install joomla to the www folder, I get all files/folders as unwritable, if I manually change them to 777 it wor
[08:46] <Kekke>  I however change the user owning the /user/www folder to www-data I get the correct permissions, but that makes my user unable to sftp to their dir, what do I need to achieve correct permissions on every new user I add?
[08:48] <MonkeyDust> Kekke  #ubuntu-server
[08:48] <dr_willis> Kekke:  i think i saw some examples/questions/answers of doing that on askubuntu.com the other day.
[08:49] <MonkeyDust> Kekke  777 is not a good idea: everyone could change anything and doing so, lock you out
[08:49] <dr_willis> dosent the users need tobe in the  www-data group also?   (ive not had to mess with apache much in the last few years)
[08:49] <Kekke> MonkeyDust: so I've heard
[08:50] <Jpmh> what is the device name of the internal microphone on my laptop?
[08:57] <simpleuser> I have many folders and i'd like that everyone is archived in a rar (or 7z) file called like the folder itself. Do you think it could be possible without making a bash script ?
[09:03] <PoNutz> goodmorning
[09:04] <shmoon> in the chroot tutorial i read to do this /proc /var/chroot/hardy/proc none rbind 0 0 - is it really good to do this, is it safe? can affect environment outside chroot
[09:05] <MonkeyDust> shmoon  is that a server?
[09:05] <PoNutz> If I connect to server with ssh and sometimes without ssh do i still put that key in my ssh config
[09:06] <MonkeyDust> shmoon  and hardy is !eol
[09:06] <shmoon> its a server, iu just copied the line from the tutorial, mine is precsie and quantal
[09:06] <shmoon> MonkeyDust: ^
[09:06] <medwards_> Hey, trying to install aircrack-ng and related tools, but they complain that they've been replaced by iw? How do I run airodump-ng now?
[09:07] <MonkeyDust> shmoon  consider asking in #ubuntu-server
[09:07] <shmoon> its applicable to any environment though
[09:10] <bretolius> i installed rtorrent from apt, but its not generating a .rtorrent.rc file
[09:10] <bretolius> where can I find the default version of that?
[09:11] <bretolius> found it
[09:12] <kiwitinker1>  need to save an edit to a cfg file but it will not let me save because it is owned by root, how can I get around this?
[09:12] <kiwitinker1> right clicking on the .cfg file I get the owner and permissions but cannot change any of these
[09:15] <l057c0d3r> kiwitinker1, what editing program u use
[09:15] <l057c0d3r> try from term  gksu gedit "filename"
[09:15] <l057c0d3r> replace gedit with the text editer u use
[09:15] <dsathe> is it possible to replace an existsing ubuntu installation with ubuntu-gnoem remix ?
[09:15] <dsathe> i want to get rid of all the unity stuff
[09:15] <l057c0d3r> dsathe,  yeah
[09:15] <dsathe> how ?
[09:15] <kiwitinker1> leafpad
[09:16] <l057c0d3r> kiwitinker1, then do gksu leafpad "file"
[09:16] <kiwitinker1> ok
[09:16] <dsathe> l057c0d3r: what would be the cleanest easiest and most fool proof way to do it ?
[09:16] <l057c0d3r> replace file with the file u want to edit..  may have to do full location if not in that folder
[09:16] <kiwitinker1> yep
[09:16] <l057c0d3r> dsathe, hmm..
[09:17] <l057c0d3r> well u could install ubuntu-gnome-desktop
[09:17] <kiwitinker1> does anything go in front of gksu?
[09:17] <l057c0d3r> and ubuntu-gnome-default-settings
[09:17] <dsathe> ah ok
[09:17] <l057c0d3r> no gksu will popup a box for root password so u have root access with leafpad to edit the file
[09:18] <l057c0d3r> dsathe, that will install gnome-shell ext
[09:18] <kiwitinker1> ok
[09:18] <l057c0d3r> dsathe, but that will not remove unity...
[09:18] <dsathe> yeah sort of pointless
[09:18] <dsathe> it ends up installing atruckload of bs
[09:18] <l057c0d3r> you will have an option to choose which you use at login.. by selecting the session
[09:18] <l057c0d3r> then u will also probably have to install gdm  and replace lightdm with it
[09:18] <dsathe> yeah yeah i know , i use gnome shell as default anyway
[09:19] <dsathe> the unity thing off for a leaner system
[09:19] <DJHenjin> _cb been back yet?
[09:19] <dsathe> and lightdm is gone
[09:19] <kratoz> not yet i guess
[09:19] <dsathe> i want to get rid og compiz, unity, ubuntuone
[09:19] <l057c0d3r> dsathe, I will have to look up what all you will have to remove after installing all the gnome stuff though to get rid of unity completely
[09:19] <MonkeyDust> !notunity
[09:20] <l057c0d3r> oh ubuntu one is nice.. i have it on my gnome remix install...  that way when i take pictures on my phone.. they just auto upload to my computer
[09:20] <GrygrFlzr> I can't seem to boot the ubuntu live cd without acpi=off, and it seems to hardware block my wifi. Anyone know how I can boot it without acpi=off?
[09:21] <MonkeyDust> dsathe  or simply install a different DE... logout, change, login
[09:21] <l057c0d3r> dsathe, u could try sudo apt-get remove ubuntuone ubuntu-unity-desktop compiz..  and then do a sudo apt-get autoremove
[09:21] <l057c0d3r> but note....
[09:21] <l057c0d3r> it might break something
[09:22] <toyz> hello
[09:22] <toyz> can someone help me fast
[09:22] <l057c0d3r> i have not done it before.. i just backed up my personal files and did a fresh gnome-remix install..
[09:22] <l057c0d3r> and added the gnome3-team ppa
[09:22] <kiwitinker1> thanks heaps lo37, you are a life saver
[09:22] <toyz> how can i set ip settings (DNS, serever, ip adress etc. ) in slacko
[09:23] <MonkeyDust> toyz  what's slacko?
[09:23] <l057c0d3r> MonkeyDust, right but he watned to remove the other stuff to gain hdd space back i believe
[09:23] <dsathe> http://blogs.operationaldynamics.com/paul/opensource/not-unifed-in-12-10-the-quickening this makes some sense
[09:23] <dsathe> trying it out
[09:24] <toyz> small portable distro MonkeyDust
[09:24] <toyz> MonkeyDust: id downloaded ubuntu but im kind in a hurry now
[09:24] <dr_willis> toyz:  perhaps ask in the slacko support channels.forums
[09:24] <toyz> so pls can you help me ????
[09:24] <MonkeyDust> toyz  this is the ubuntu channel, better ask in the slacko channel
[09:25] <dr_willis> make me wonder how well the disrto is made.. if it dosent use dhcp by default. or have an obvious settings icon/menu item for basic settings like that
[09:28] <carrera> Greetings!  :)
[09:28] <brontosaurusrex> dr_willis, why should it use dhcp by default?
[09:28] <dr_willis> because that would make sence for most people
[09:29] <brontosaurusrex> ok
[09:29] <MonkeyDust> :)
[09:29] <MonkeyDust> toyz  slacko is a puppy fork or so, I read here
[09:29] <dr_willis> reverse the question.. and ask why should it not use dhcp by default... ;)
[09:30] <brontosaurusrex> well, depends on the amount of "finnish" that the distro is after
[09:31] <MonkeyDust> toyz  30+ people in #puppylinux
[09:31] <dr_willis> Puppy linux - is perhaps one of the most odd-ball disrtos out there.
[09:31] <brontosaurusrex> actually i'd go with something that resembles osx here (mountain lion), where dhcp is default, but you can easily just type in your custom ip
[09:31] <dr_willis> it should definatly have some network-config menu item/icon somewhere :) at least most puppy variants do
[09:31] <MonkeyDust> brontosaurusrex  'easy' depends on how skilled the user is
[09:32] <brontosaurusrex> dunno what ubuntu is using this days
[09:32] <brontosaurusrex> MonkeyDust, true
[09:33] <l057c0d3r> kiwitinker1, your welcome
[09:33] <carrera> dr_willis, Hi
[09:36] <MacroMan> Need some help with iptables. I am setting up a very simple set of rules. Allow ssh, http & https like so: http://pastie.org/7628184 but this setup locks out ssh access. Why?
[09:37] <MonkeyDust> MacroMan  looks like "drop all" is the culprit
[09:38] <l057c0d3r> macroman i myself like to use gufw to manage my iptables
[09:38] <dr_willis> so if you only have a ssh and web server going... what is the rules actually blocking?
[09:38] <MacroMan> MonkeyDust, But I'm specifically allowing ssh traffic. My understanding is that when a rule is matched it stops processing
[09:39] <MacroMan> dr_willis, Blocking everything except ssh, http & https.
[09:39] <MacroMan> a basic webserver setup
[09:39] <dr_willis> MacroMan:  right.. and if you dont have any other services going... so whats to block?
[09:39] <MonkeyDust> MacroMan  i guess 'drop all' overrides everything
[09:39] <dr_willis> i guess in case some rogue services get installed? ;)
[09:40] <dr_willis> misconfigured services ment for the internal network
[09:40] <MacroMan> If the rules look OK I'm thinking the port may change from 22 once I'm inside the data centre. It's a brand new server. All I've done is installed a lamp stack.
[09:43] <MacroMan> dr_willis, the whole point in a firewall is to block ports you don't need open. The question should be, why not block everything else?
[09:44] <jrib> MacroMan: does ssh work when you disable iptables?  Those rules should be ok
[09:48] <MacroMan> I can access fine once the tables have been flushed
[09:48] <kishan> can anyone help me there
[09:49] <MacroMan> kishan, Maybe. Ask your question. Don't ask to ask.
[09:49] <kishan> my ubuntu is not updating well so plz help me.?
[09:50] <MacroMan> jrib, I'll get hold of the data centre to see if they have any suggestions.
[09:50] <jrib> MacroMan: and right now sshd is listening on port 22?
[09:51] <kishan> how can u help me..please suggest?
[09:52] <kishan> is anyone dere to help me?
[09:53] <MonkeyDust> !details | kishan
[09:54] <mouthwash> i'm trying to install "ufo: alien invasion" but the download doesn't work, repo is already added to the list. got error failed to download package files. any ideas anybody?
[09:56] <cromag> hi - is it possible to use an internal + pci-e graphics card at the same time in 12.10 ?
[09:57] <snuggl> cromag: multi monitor works quite bad, but it is totally possible as long as its not any hardware limitations
[09:58] <cromag> snuggl: ok - i do have multimonitor right now using the 2 plugs in the pci-e and that works quite fine. I just want an ekstra screen on the internal graphics card as well. Can you point me somewhere perhaps ?
[09:58] <kishan> ok...i have problem while i go  for updating  for blackubuntu
[09:58] <kishan> ver is 12.04
[09:59] <DJones> kishan: blackbuntu isn't a supported version of Ubuntu in this channel
[10:00] <kishan> ok...so from where i can get assistance..friend
[10:00] <kishan> ?????????/
[10:00] <DJones> kishan: You'll probably need to check their website to find their support channels
[10:01] <DJones> !alis | kishan You may find a channel using the service bot,
[10:01] <warren-hill> kishan: try #blackbuntu on server irc.reapersecurity.net for support
[10:01] <kishan> thanks  dude.......
[10:02] <cromag> kishan: #blackbuntu
[10:02] <cromag> http://www.blackbuntu.com/
[10:02] <cromag> ah it's on a different network it seems
[10:02] <kishan> ok  i got it.
[10:03] <cromag> hmm is it a different one ?
[10:03] <kishan> so.....?
[10:03] <kishan> cromag???///
[10:03] <cromag> yes ?
[10:04] <kishan> cromag:  lates ver. of blackbuntu?
[10:06] <keith_> Ubuntu12-10 AMD FX-4170 processor.
[10:08] <AndroUser2> (AndroUser2) Can you tell me why * is used in CSS style sheet #ABC *{}
[10:08] <snuggl> #ABC is an ID, space means child-to, * means all
[10:09] <snuggl> så thats a selector for "All children to the id #ABC"
[10:09] <snuggl> so*
[10:09] <drasko> hi all, how to start udhcpc upon boot, before network interfaces are up *as they have to use it)?
[10:10] <CKLMN> i want to download v.13.10 and i dont know how , can u help me ?
[10:11] <MonkeyDust> CKLMN  you mean 13.04
[10:11] <CKLMN> MonkeyDust, no i mean 13.10 beta
[10:11] <MonkeyDust> CKLMN  you mean 13.04 beta
[10:11] <CKLMN> MonkeyDust, ok i mean 13.04 then ;p
[10:11] <keith_> Ubuntu12-10 AMD FX-4170 processor.  Firefox crashes when trying to log on to ANZ Bank (Australia) internet banking. I have two other banks but have no problems logging on to those. This is the first time I have tried logging onto ANZ. Can anyone offer any help?
[10:12] <MacroMan> jrib, Sorry, was on break. sshd must be listening, because as soon as iptables is flushed I can ssh fine.
[10:12] <jrib> MacroMan: that doesn't imply it's on port 22
[10:12] <mouthwash> if you can't download a package and you've got the repos, is there any fix, or is the package just not there?
[10:12] <MacroMan> Hmm. True. It is just a default installation, but I didn't configure it, so it could be on a different port.
[10:13] <MonkeyDust> CKLMN  scroll down : http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2013/04/05/ubuntu-13-04-raring-ringtail-beta-2-released/
[10:13] <CKLMN> thanks
[10:13] <Lukemob> Hello guys, I have a serious problems getting my wifi usb adaper to work on my pretty new Ubuntu 12.10
[10:13] <jrib> MacroMan: check :)
[10:13] <CKLMN> MonkeyDust, do u know if amd proptietory drivers are fixed on 13.04 ?
[10:13] <AndroUser2> Sorry got disconnected
[10:13] <MacroMan> jrib, but I don't specify a different port to ssh to it. I just do ssh username@255.255.255.255
[10:14] <drasko> hi all, how to start udhcpc upon boot, before network interfaces are up *as they have to use it)?
[10:14] <MonkeyDust> CKLMN  no
[10:14] <AndroUser2> Can you elaborate?
[10:14] <MonkeyDust> CKLMN  i mean: don't know
[10:14] <Lukemob> It's a few days of searching already spent but nothing.. a few people seem to experience same problem, but never got this solved :-(
[10:14] <CKLMN> MonkeyDust, ok thank you for your time
[10:14] <Lukemob> Today I have just found this link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1846181&highlight=netgear+wna1000m
[10:14] <thufir_> lol, I installed ubuntu onto another system but seem to have forgotten, or mistyped, my password.  no gui, just console.  how do I get the available users?
[10:15] <Lukemob> My USB wifi is just Netgear WNA1000M
[10:15] <jrib> MacroMan: check server-side to verify
[10:16] <AndroUser2> Can you please elaborate why * is used in CSS, #abc *{}
[10:16] <sebian> hello
[10:16] <jrib> AndroUser2: /join #css
[10:16] <sebian> do you like sex ?
[10:16] <sebian> there is some woman here ?
[10:16] <MonkeyDust> sebian  wrong channel
[10:16] <sebian> so where ?
[10:16] <jrib> sebian: not here.
[10:17] <Lukemob> Can anybody help me, please.. this is probably the last place where I could get some more info
[10:17] <sebian> telle me where
[10:17] <thufir_> how do I know the "super user" login name?
[10:18] <AndroUser2> Please reply guys, I am stuck with CSS code
[10:18] <Lukemob> AndroUser2, wrong place!
[10:18] <kewel> fresh install of lubuntu 12.04 -- chromium was installed and updated (25).. anyone know how to get flash player working?
[10:18] <MonkeyDust> thufir_  if you mean su, it means switch user ; or do you mean root ?
[10:18] <mattnie> thufir_: isn't it root?
[10:18] <kewel> chmod flashplayerplugin.so?
[10:18] <AndroUser2> Lukemob thanks, do you know the channel where I can ask my issue
 AndroUser2: /join #css
[10:19] <kewel> libflashplayer.so rather
[10:19] <thufir_> there's no root in ubuntu
[10:19] <MacroMan> jrib, Got the support team at the data centre checking now.
[10:20] <thufir_> mattnie: I mean, you can't just login as root.  I tried https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword  but it doesn't work for me.  I just get the login prompt, but don't know the user name.
[10:20] <AndroUser2> Thanks lukemob
[10:20] <jrib> !root | thufir_
[10:20] <thufir_> jrib: I am not trying to get the password, I'm trying to get the ****user**** name
[10:21] <jrib> thufir_: what user name?
[10:21] <MonkeyDust> thufir_  what do you mean by 'super user'? the login name?
[10:21] <jrib> thufir_: ls /home
[10:21] <thufir_> jrib: exactly.  I just installed and forgot the user name I used.  hence, I cannot login as I mistyped, or something, the user name.
[10:21] <becom33> I have a issue with nvidia when I run nvidia-settings it gives me a popup saying run just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root . but when I do that again its giving me the same error
[10:21] <GrygrFlzr> thufir_, by superuser you mean 'root'?
[10:21] <thufir_> GrygrFlzr: I mean the first user you create when you install.
[10:22] <becom33> anyone for me ?
[10:22] <thufir_> I just installed 12.10 a second ago, but forgot, or mistyped, the user name which I created.  How do I find out what that user is?
[10:23] <jrib> thufir_: ls /home
[10:23] <thufir_> jrib: I cannot login.
[10:23] <dsathe> hey l057c0d3r it worked
[10:23] <dsathe> off loaded a load of cruft
[10:23] <jrib> thufir_: use recovery mode or log in as guest if that is available to you
[10:24] <mattnie> thufir_: or use a live cd and look up the user
[10:24] <thufir_> there's no guest.  just console.  I'm trying https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword but I just get console.
[10:24] <dsathe> one problem now , i had it even before the great purge
[10:24] <jrib> thufir_: use recovery mode
[10:24] <mattnie> thufir_: if you have console than "cat /etc/passwd"
[10:25] <dsathe> when i go to empathy accounts and says authorise with google,facebook etc , it just ends up blank , i cannot seem to add my accounts :(
[10:25] <becom33> anyone for me ?
[10:25] <becom33> I have a issue with nvidia when I run nvidia-settings it gives me a popup saying run just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root . but when I do that again its giving me the same error
[10:25] <dsathe> any solution to that ?
[10:25] <thufir_> from recovery mode, there's no /home.  let me boot again into the recovery mode via cd.  there was no /etc/passwd because of how it mounts.
[10:25] <Lukemob> Guys, can anybody help me out with drivers issue, please? I'm wondering about downgrading to 12.04 if that helps..
[10:25] <dsathe> becom33: run 'sudo nvidia-xconfig'
[10:25] <dsathe> you need to run it for it to create a base xorg.conf file
[10:25] <becom33> dsathe, I did and I and rebooted the machine
[10:25] <dsathe> ada
[10:26] <dsathe> aha
[10:26] <jrib> thufir_: how does it mount exactly...?
[10:26] <becom33> still nvidia-settings gives me the same error
[10:26] <thufir_> when I put the cd in,  I get an option to "rescue a broken system" and go from there.  Jrib, it mounts, err, one sec..
[10:26] <dsathe> can you try 'cat /etx/X11/xorg.conf'
[10:26] <jrib> thufir_: I'm not familiar with that, but you can select "recovery mode" from the grub menu without using a cd
[10:26] <l057c0d3r> dsathe, good :-)
[10:26] <dsathe> l057c0d3r: see post about empathy !
[10:27] <dsathe> cant add accounts, i dunno some update a bit back messed it up
[10:27] <becom33> dsathe, no
[10:27] <thufir_> jrib: hmm, ok. I'm in "rescue mode" with the cd at the moment.  let me tell you the output in a sec, and then I'll go back to grub, please.
[10:27] <becom33> :/
[10:27] <dsathe> becom33: that means you xorg.conf file was never created
[10:28] <l057c0d3r> dsathe, i had that issue with facebook a while back.. but it fixed instelf
[10:28] <l057c0d3r> do u have goa installed
[10:28] <l057c0d3r> and gir1.2-goa
[10:28] <dsathe> lemme see
[10:28] <becom33> dsathe, give me a minet let me reboot and come
[10:28] <dsathe> surprissing goa was
[10:28] <l057c0d3r> dsathe, might want to run a sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:28] <dsathe> but mpc accoutn manager was not
[10:29] <l057c0d3r> followed by a sudo apt-get autoremove
[10:29] <dsathe> yeah did that cleared up all conf fikles too
[10:30] <l057c0d3r> and a word of advice stay away from the pre released updates..  they WILL break stuff eventually..
[10:30] <thufir_> I'm in a mode like:  http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-boot-ubuntu-linux-rescue-mode/  and see :  device to use as root file system 1.) /dev/sda 2.) /dev/sa5 3.) /dev/dur2/root and few others.  this is "rescue mode" from a cd.
[10:30] <dsathe> l057c0d3r: anyway i have to use a custom kernel , the default sucks
[10:30] <l057c0d3r> really...
[10:30] <dsathe> atleast for me ,
[10:30]  * l057c0d3r has no problems with the default on his setup.. but everyones system is different
[10:31] <dsathe> compile the kernel for the i7 3rd gen with the righ compiler optimisation cflags, replace cfq with bfs, and put int rt preeempt 1khz with optimisations for the processor at hand
[10:32] <dsathe> ck patches ;)
[10:32] <l057c0d3r> ahh yeah..  probably made it a bit snappier
[10:32] <dsathe> also for my work i need userspace cgroups
[10:32] <dsathe> much snappier
[10:33] <l057c0d3r> dsathe, any luck with that google account
[10:33] <thufir_> I selected /dev/sda and to execute a shell in the installer environment and am at a prompt.  pwd gives / and whoami gives /bin/sh whoami: not found.  so, dunno who I am.  LOL.  cat /etc/passwd give root and installer.  I think I'm in the wrong mountpoint or something?
[10:33] <dsathe> lemme try
[10:33] <l057c0d3r> you will notice that there are two online accounts as well with the gnome remix
[10:33] <dsathe> yeah
[10:34] <dsathe> brb
[10:34] <l057c0d3r> not sure.. but i did a sudo apt-get install ubuntu-gnome-desktop-defaults as well
[10:34] <jrib> thufir_: just use recovery mode on your install's grub menu instead of the cd
[10:34] <l057c0d3r> or something like that
[10:34] <jrib> thufir_: or actually boot the live cd if you prefer like someone else suggested
[10:34] <l057c0d3r> or was it settings-defaults.. i dont know
[10:34] <l057c0d3r> been soooo long now
[10:34] <becom33> ok now I have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf but still nvidia-settings gives me "You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver.  Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server."
[10:34] <becom33> dsathe,
[10:35] <thufir_> jrib: well, I logged into another option and found /etc/passwd and see that I created "super_duper_user" so I should be able to reset that password, I hope :)
[10:35] <jrib> thufir_: ok
[10:36] <becom33> anyone for me ?
[10:37] <thufir_> all fixed.
[10:37] <thufir_> jrib: thanks.  and thanks to all.
[10:40] <Ben`> i have a problem with my ubuntu
[10:40]  * becom33 anyone for me ?
[10:40] <becom33> ok now I have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf but still nvidia-settings gives me "You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver.  Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server."
[10:41] <Ben`> i installed ubuntu but now i can't find my start menu anymore, any help?
[10:41] <l057c0d3r> ha
[10:41] <l057c0d3r> err....
[10:41] <l057c0d3r> unity??  xfce??/ lxde??
[10:42] <Ben`> ubuntu
[10:42] <l057c0d3r> desktop environment..
[10:42] <CKLMN> i want to know how i can help to the development of ubuntu
[10:42] <Ben`> l057c0d3r: windows
[10:42] <MonkeyDust> Ben`  is it with the bar on the left? if yes, that's unity
[10:42] <Ben`> yes i see a bar
[10:43] <Ben`> i want to open start menu with all my programs
[10:43] <MonkeyDust> Ben`  click on the ubuntu icon on to
[10:43] <MonkeyDust> top*
[10:43] <Ben`> ok, one sec
[10:43] <Ben`> thank you MonkeyDust
[10:43] <Ben`> but i don't see all my old programs?
[10:44] <Ben`> i had dreamweaver and internet explorer in my start menu before
[10:44] <CoolCoder> Can i cleanup /var/tmp and /var/cache by deleting all files in it? is it safe? how to do in terminal
[10:44] <MonkeyDust> Ben`  , below, you see smaller icons, explore them
[10:44] <Ben`> ok
[10:44] <CKLMN> i want to know how i can help to the development of ubuntu
[10:44] <MonkeyDust> CKLMN  #ubuntu-app-devel
[10:45] <CKLMN> thnx
[10:45] <Ben`> i still dont see my programs from old start menu
[10:45] <MonkeyDust> Ben`  now's the time to get familiar with the new interface
[10:46] <Ben`> i will try, thank you for tips
[10:46] <MonkeyDust> Ben`  click here and there
[10:46] <Ben`> where is there?
[10:47] <Ben`> oh i found it
[10:47] <thufir_> if I install ubuntu 12.10 server, and then xfce4, how do enable graphical boot and login?
[10:48] <dr_willis> thufir_:  install the xubuntu-desktop package and it should pull in all needed files to do that
[10:48] <dr_willis> thufir_:  lightdm is the gui login manager normally used
[10:49] <CoolCoder> Is it safe to delete all files inside folders /var/tmp /var/cache /var/log ?
[10:49] <becom33> ok now I have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf but still nvidia-settings gives me "You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver.  Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server."
[10:49] <dr_willis> CoolCoder:  i wouldent touch /var/cache
[10:50] <CoolCoder> can delete others?
[10:50] <dr_willis>  /var/tmp is empty here
[10:50] <dr_willis> and you can delete the old log files.
[10:50] <CoolCoder> ok
[10:51] <CoolCoder> old log giles .1 .2 .3 .... .x right?
[10:51] <CoolCoder> files*
[10:51] <dr_willis> yes
[10:52] <thufir_> dr_willis: thanks
[10:52] <l057c0d3r> becom33, are u sure that u are actually using the binary driver..
[10:52] <l057c0d3r> i know you need generic headers installed
[10:52] <becom33> l057c0d3r, no :/
[10:53] <l057c0d3r> i myself do not know a whole lot about nvidia.. i've always had ati systems
[10:53] <l057c0d3r> have you checked out the binary howto guide
[10:53] <becom33> give me hand if u can
[10:53] <l057c0d3r> !nvidia becnfecn
[10:53] <Ben`> becom33: What happened when you ran `nvidia-xconfig` as root?
[10:53] <l057c0d3r> blah  !nvidia | becom33
[10:54] <Ben64> you need to start the line with the trigger, you can't have it in the middle
[10:55] <Ben`> becom33: pastebin your xorg.conf please.
[10:55] <Ben64> shouldn't even need an xorg.conf
[10:55] <l057c0d3r> heh righ
[10:55] <l057c0d3r> !nvidia | becom33
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> Ben64: some displays need t, especially if they have weird or zero EDID
[10:56] <Ben64> hence "shouldn't"
[10:56] <Inspiral> hey guys, im trying to use jockey to install additional drivers, however, I get 'The program 'jockey-gtk' is currently not installed.' and on apt-get install jockey-gtk i get 'jockey-gtk is already the newest version.'
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> Ben64: my 32" screen sets a fantastically high res then has huge text, makes it unusable, so I control it with xorg.conf (makes reinstalls easier too)
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> Ben64: decent screens will autoconfigure and play right
[10:58] <DJones> Inspiral: Its now included in Software & Updates
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> Inspiral: try:  gksudo jockey-gtk
[10:59] <dr_willis> Inspiral:  you on 12.10? or what ?
[10:59] <Inspiral> 12.10 yes, gksudo doesnt do anything, nor return any ouput
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> Inspiral: try running it from ALT+F2
[10:59] <DJones> Inspiral: Its now included in Software & Updates, jockey-gtk doesn't exist in 12.10
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> !info jockey-gtk quantal
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> DJones: ^
[11:00] <Inspiral> ActionParsnip: gives me command not found, maybe my $PATH is screwed up ?
[11:00] <becom33> Ben`, sorry I got disconnected http://postimg.org/image/95yd27sjt/
[11:00] <DJones> ActionParsnip: Yeah, but it doesn't do anything, it give an error when you try running it & tells you to install it even though you can already have installed it
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> DJones: it still exists
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> Inspiral: what is the output of:  echo$PATH
[11:01] <becom33> thats what happens when I ran `nvidia-xconfig` as root
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> Inspiral: with a space
[11:01] <Inspiral> echo $PATH
[11:01] <Inspiral> /usr/lib/lightdm/lightdm:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/games
[11:01] <Inspiral> looks ok to me
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> Inspiral: looks fine, which video chip do you actually have
[11:01] <l057c0d3r> becom33, did u check out that guide??
[11:02] <Inspiral> radeon hd 4850, I am trying to install via software centre
[11:02] <becom33> l057c0d3r, Im sorry I got disconnected
[11:02] <l057c0d3r> its ok
[11:02] <becom33> sould give me the link again
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> Inspiral: those GPUs have issues in Quantal
[11:02] <l057c0d3r> !nvidia | becom33
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> Inspiral: you'll need the legacy ppa
[11:02] <Inspiral> that might explain the blank screen i had previously then
[11:02] <waqs> hi all
[11:02] <Inspiral> lovely
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> Inspiral: https://launchpad.net/~makson96/+archive/fglrx
[11:03] <Inspiral> will check it out, thanks
[11:03] <waqs> i'm trying to use pantheon-greeter with xubuntu 12.10, but i get a black screen on boot
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> Inspiral: known issue, the xorg in Quantal and Precise hates 2xxx to 4xxx Ati GPUs
[11:03] <waqs> has anyone come across this before?
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> !info  pantheon-greeter
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> waqs: are you using Elementary OS?
[11:06] <waqs> nah, using xubuntu
[11:06] <waqs> i really like the login screen :p
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> waqs: may help http://askubuntu.com/questions/257470/can-i-replace-the-default-login-screen-for-the-pantheon-greeter
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> waqs: I'd ask in the elementary OS channel, we cannot support their packages here
[11:06] <Simone80> ciao
[11:06] <Simone80> 1list
[11:07] <Simone80> !list
[11:07] <Inspiral> so i installed jockey via the software centre and it still it still tells me its not installed so ill check out that ppa ActionParsnip cheers,
[11:07] <DJones> ActionParsnip: In Ubuntu 12.10, jockey-gtk has been superseded by software-properties for managing third-party driver configuration. So, to access this feature, open the terminal and run this command gksudo software-properties-gtk Taken from http://askubuntu.com/questions/234799/i-installed-jockey-gtk-but-how-do-i-run-it (Just for info)
[11:07] <waqs> thank you, ActionParsnip
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> DJones: the package still exists, you said it didn't exist
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> DJones: nothnig about being superceeded or anything like that
[11:10] <DJones> ActionParsnip: Fair enough, it exists, but it appears to be broken and doesn't actually do anything apart from you say its not installed & that you have to install it
[11:10] <DJones> s/you/to/
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> DJones: oh absolutely
[11:11] <nabblet> hi, what's the difference between network-manager-openconnect and network-manager-openconnect-gnome?
[11:12] <DJones> ActionParsnip: Appears the only way to get to it is using the software-properties-gtk package rather than jockey-gtk, although I think jocket-text still works
[11:12] <Inspiral> i ran jockey-text it didnt work
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> DJones: sweet, will remember for later. I just use apt-get personally :)
[11:12] <DJones> :)
[11:16] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> hi BluesKaj
[11:18] <BluesKaj> hi ActionParsnip , how goes it ?
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: not bad, fighting office365 today
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> fun
[11:21] <Solupus> hey guys, how come http://www.wampserver.com/en/ says that apache 2.2.2 isn't supported
[11:21] <BluesKaj> ActionParsnip, do the documents created in office 365 work with libreoffice
[11:21] <Solupus> openssl isnt supported*
[11:21] <histo> Solupus: isn't wamp a windows product?
[11:21] <Solupus> on my ubuntu 12.04 lts i have apache 2.2.22 and openssl is supported
[11:22] <Steeler> !ask
[11:22] <MonkeyDust> Solupus  linux has lamp, better use that -- windows support in ##windows
[11:22] <Steeler> !patience
[11:22] <Solupus> right, but im trying to match production with developing
[11:23] <MacroMan> Is the default behaviour for OUTPUT iptables to DROP?
[11:23] <MacroMan> or to ACCEPT?
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: not sure, its an email system we use at work instead of exchange. Not too bad
[11:26] <nabblet> MacroMan: i think ACCEPT
[11:26] <nabblet> MacroMan: but you can look it up in your system
[11:26] <BluesKaj> ActionParsnip, ok , my MS knowledge is getting worse and worse :)
[11:27] <nabblet> MacroMan: use 'iptables -L'
[11:27] <Nmbr1> MacroMan: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-networking-3/iptables-default-output-policy-179408/
[11:28] <Nmbr1> MacroMan: this is a better link http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2011/03/iptables-inbound-and-outbound-rules/ the default policy for a chain is ACCEPT
[11:31] <basss> hello, is anyone familiar with a software that can monitor services and notify me whenever a service has crashed ?
[11:31] <MonkeyDust> basss  conky maybe ?
[11:32] <muelli> systemd :>
[11:34] <basss> MonkeyDust i just looked at it, its pretty graphical. Does it run on servers  ?
[11:34] <carldani> Hi!
[11:34] <basss> muelli can you link me please ?
[11:34] <muelli> basss: no
[11:35] <basss> muelli thanks
[11:35] <muelli> np
[11:35] <histo> !systemd | basss not sure how this helps?
[11:36] <muelli> otherwise there is the obvious daemontools by djb.
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> basss: nagios
[11:36] <carldani> Is there a way to download outdated security updates? E.g. dnsutils 1:9.7.0.dfsg.P1-1ubuntu0.8 (version directly before the current security update for lucid).
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> basss: could even use ps -ef and make a system to alert if the service is not found running
[11:37] <MonkeyDust> basss  an old link (11.10) http://www.telnetport25.com/2012/01/installing-nagios-on-ubuntu-server-11-10-then-monitoring-windows-and-exchange-serverspart-1configuring-ubuntu-for-the-installation-of-nagios-core/
[11:37] <muelli> carldani: apt-get install dnsutils=9.7.0.dfsg.P1-1ubuntu0.8  might work if that package is still referenced from the index.
[11:37] <basss> MonkeyDust thanks
[11:38] <basss> ActionParsnip just checking it out
[11:38] <MonkeyDust> basss  this is more recent http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1986743
[11:38] <carldani> muelli: that package is not even present on the ftp server anymore, otherwise I'd have downloaded the deb directly.
[11:39] <basss> MonkeyDust great, reading it now
[11:40] <jbates58> hi all. just trying to edit my fstab file (im new to linux) and want to make sure i have it right before doing it. as i have done it before, and it wouldnt boot, and i had to re-image the OS. the string i have entered is:       UUID=<uuid of drive here> /media/Odroid \Storage \Drive ntfs noauto
[11:40] <jbates58> is that correct, i want it so that if i remove the drive, it re-mounts back to the same location
[11:41] <monaco> Hi there I read out there that Ubuntu server is for 5 years does that means after 5 years I need to pay something ??
[11:41] <Ben64> jbates58: probably not
[11:41] <bazhang> !eol | monaco
[11:41] <jbates58> ok. where did i go wrong?
[11:42] <simplexion> jbates58, are you trying to automount a usb drive to the same location?
[11:42] <Ben64> jbates58: i'm not sure if "ntfs" works there, if you want it auto, why noauto?, and what is "\Storage \Drive"
[11:42] <Romordriel> salut
[11:43] <jbates58> yes, but i dont want it to auto mount, as every time it does, it keeps adding an underscore to the mount point, and my download program cant see it, and i end up with /media foull of usless folders
[11:43] <simplexion> @Ben64, ntfs will work there
[11:43] <simplexion> jbates, with automount it should only create the folder while the drive is present
[11:43] <Romordriel> Is there a french guy (or woman) ?
[11:43] <jbates58> i want the drive label to be Odroid Storage Drive, so inorder to have the spaces in linux, i need to use a \ like Odroid \Storage \Drive4
[11:43] <simplexion> If you give the drive a label it should always mount on the same directory
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> jbates58: if you add it in fstab, it will mount the same way each time
[11:44] <monaco> ubottu: aha thank you verymuch
[11:45] <simplexion> jbates58, I think you can place quotes around the path instead in fstab
[11:45] <jbates58> ActionParsnip, thats what i want it to do, so i can plug and unplug at will, and it goes back to the same location, so thatmy downloader con see it no problems after transferring the data off it. but im having heaps of trouble woking out how to do it. i have asked for help before, and everyone justdirects me to the ubuntu guide.
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> jbates58: run:  sudo blkid   and you will get the UUID
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> jbates58: of the USB partition
[11:46] <r4f3> Hello there. Is there anyway of getting 64bit kernel in a host with 32bit kenrel?
[11:46] <jbates58> yep, done i have that
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> jbates58: what file system is the partition using?
[11:46] <jbates58> ntfs
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> jbates58: ok, if you want to share that via samba at any point you will have issues
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> jbates58: just a side note
[11:47] <simplexion> Why, ActionParsnip?
[11:47] <jbates58> i would like to share a folder via samba for a black hole, but i can use a folder on the desktop if need be
[11:47] <simplexion> I've never had issues
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> simplexion: permissions and so forth, it can be an ass
[11:48] <Ovro> Hey guys, I'm about to convert to Linux after many years as a Windows user. ;)
[11:48] <Ovro> Can Steam run Football Manager?
[11:48] <Ovro> That is my only concern. </3
[11:48] <dr_willis> In /etc/fstab you do NOT escape spaces with  \   - not
[11:48] <dr_willis> 'share\ drive'
[11:49] <MonkeyDust> Ovro  http://mybroadband.co.za/news/software/32474-a-windows-users-guide-to-linux.html
[11:49] <Ovro> thanks
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> jbates58: here are some examples: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1980881
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> jbates58: http://codeaweso.me/2009/07/mount-ntfs-partitions-at-startup-with-fstab/
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> jbates58: http://askubuntu.com/questions/34731/howto-auto-mount-windows-partitions-using-etc-fstab
[11:49] <Axylus> can you easily install a normal (non-"live") installation of Ubuntu onto a Flash drive without any major issues? perhaps by booting the installer from a DVD?
[11:50] <Ben64> Axylus: yeah, but its slow
[11:50] <simplexion> jbates58, spaces in fstab require \040
[11:50] <MonkeyDust> Ovro  and this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Valve
[11:50] <dr_willis> /servername/share\040name    /mount/point
[11:50] <simplexion> Yes, Axylus. You should be able to install to a USB. There are plenty of instructions around for doing so
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> Axylus: if you put some of the folders in tempfs it can be made better but copy ing apps from USB to RAM is pretty slow
[11:51] <Axylus> speed doesn't matter. :) and will the installer install the boot loader to the Flash drive without a fuss?
[11:51] <Ben64> Axylus: yep, works fine as long as the computer can boot from usb. but for reals, its slow :)
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> Axylus: then its fine :)
[11:52]  * ActionParsnip wishes Ubuntu had the  toram   cheatcode
[11:52] <dr_willis> Axylus:  i install to external usb/flash/sdcard - same as i would an internal drive.  - it can be sluggish. but useable
[11:52] <Axylus> simplexion, I've only managed to find instructions for performing "frugal" installations. I don't even know whether you can install packages in such installations…?
[11:53] <dr_willis> simplexion:  frugal? Err. thats a term Puppylinux uses... not seen it apply to Ubuntu
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> Axylus: if you have a windows7 install, you can resize your NTFS and free up about 10Gb and then install to that and make a dual boot
[11:53] <simplexion> Do you mean persistent installation?
[11:53] <dr_willis> Axylus:  i boot the cd. plug in the flash.. and partion, install to the flash same as i would a internal hard drive. ;)
[11:53] <dr_willis> a Live-setup - is differnt  however. ;)
[11:53] <r4f3> Hello there. Is there anyway of getting 64bit kernel in a host with 32bit kenrel?
[11:53] <r4f3> Hello there. Is there anyway of getting 64bit kernel in a host with 32bit kenrel?
[11:54] <jbates58> what is ntfs vsntfs-3g?
[11:54] <dr_willis> !ntfs-3g
[11:54] <jbates58> what is ntfs vs ntfs-3g?^
[11:54] <simplexion> r4f3, you will have issues with libraries
[11:54] <Axylus> "frugal" is the term that UNetbootin uses. yes, I think it's the same as a persistent installation
[11:54] <dr_willis> ntfs-3g is newer and has write support jbates58
[11:54]  * rAg3nix good to be back :D
[11:54] <MonkeyDust> r4f3  better describe the bigger picturen what do you want to do?
[11:54] <jbates58> so i will need that one then?
[11:54] <r4f3> simplexion if someone wants desperetaly to do so?
[11:54] <MonkeyDust> r4f3  better describe the bigger picture, what do you want to do?
[11:54] <simplexion> dr_willis, all ntfs in Linux has write support
[11:54] <dr_willis> jbates58:  you will be using ntfs-3g most likely
[11:55] <simplexion> I don't think any distros have ntfs without write support these days
[11:55] <dr_willis> simplexion:  last i looked the old ntfs  did not have write support..  but its been years. ;)
[11:55] <dsathe> l057c0d3r:  hey all well, just had to put an app specific passwrod for google
[11:55] <dsathe> coz of 2 step auth
[11:55] <r4f3> i want to run qemu kvm and install proxmox on a .raw file
[11:55] <Guest37103> hi there
[11:55] <r4f3> i run this and says i dont have 64bit host box
[11:55] <jbates58> itsa 2tb usb drive, that i want sabnzb to save all downloaded files to. then when its full, pull it out, and move them over to my windows machine, empty it, and then plug it back into ubuntu and it keeps on keeping on
[11:56] <simplexion> r4f3, I would be starting from scratch
[11:56] <simplexion> if you want a hypervisor that is
[11:56] <dr_willis> jbates58:  so? write to it with ntfs3g from linux.  and windowsc can read it..
[11:56] <r4f3> simplexion i just want to install proxmox VE in a virtual maschine
[11:56] <simplexion> r4f3, can you convert the physical to a virtual image and redeploy?
[11:57] <simplexion> If you want proxmox in a VM for testing just use virtualbox.
[11:57] <jbates58> i dont know. lol. in new to linux. i have a odroid board, running 24/7 headless, and it runs sabnzb. i want sab to save to the usb drive, then transfer it to my pc and back to the odroid
[11:57] <r4f3> simplexion i want to upload to a cloud appliance
[11:57] <kris-away> I have ubuntu server on one computer, and my desktops run ubuntu and windows... what's a program that i can use to sync my files that's not samba?
[11:57] <Ben64> kris-away: rsync
[11:58] <dr_willis> jbates58:  so whats the issue? You can mount a ntfs filesystem somewhere with ntfs-3g. write to it.. then when done.. unmount it and unplug it..
[11:58] <r4f3> simplexion if i run a vm with ubuntu 64bit in a host ubuntu 32 bit and instal?
[11:58] <dr_willis> kris-away:  rsync, unison, winscp+ssh,
[11:58] <Ben64> jbates58: you can't do that over the network?
[11:58] <simplexion> r4f3, that can't be done
[11:59] <r4f3> why not simplexion?
[11:59] <jbates58> but when i unplug it, and re-plug it, it keeps adding an underscore to the end of the mount point. so then i have to delete tehm all, and modify the save locations in sabnzbd
[11:59] <dr_willis> jbates58:  UNMOUNT it befor unplugging it
[11:59] <simplexion> It is physically impossible to run a 64bit guest on a 32bit host
[11:59] <jbates58> Ben64, i dont want it to go over a network.
[12:00] <jbates58> can that whole unmount/remount thing be auto, so i can just power off, and unplug and then back on?
[12:00] <Ben64> jbates58: much easier than moving a physical drive. whats the point of having a mini linux server if you have to move around devices
[12:00] <r4f3> what would you do simplexion?
[12:00] <dr_willis> jbates58:  if you power down the pc via the right method.. it will unmount it
[12:01] <jbates58> well its a headless download server, consumes about 5W at full load and runs like a trooper. i ue it to download from usenet to an external drive, and then transfer over to my pc.
[12:01] <simplexion> If you need the current setup to continue to run I would try do P2V and install KVM, then you can add your Proxmox appliance too.
[12:02] <r4f3> P2V?
[12:02] <Ben64> jbates58: yeah i got that. but since its a server and runs all the time, it can share files over the network
[12:02] <simplexion> Physical 2 Virtual
[12:02] <kris-away> rsync and unison... i said ubuntu to windows... winscp... i'm currently using vcftpd+gftp/filezilla.. i'm looking for a program like  ubuntuone... but ubuntuone does not have tbs of storage, wheras my server does
[12:02] <r4f3> could we please go in private simplexion?
[12:02] <simplexion> Sure
[12:02] <jbates58> it could, but its faster to remove the drive and use the usb connection. it only has 10/100 lan
[12:02] <dr_willis> you could just have it write to the windows box directly.. and not even use a  removeable hd.
[12:02] <dr_willis> Hmm.. i would think a usb would be slower..
[12:03] <Ben64> 12.5MB/s is faster than anything you'd want to watch
[12:03] <Neptu> hej how i can copy a file to clipboard with only one command?
[12:04] <ekiwok> simplexion it's possible to run 64 bit on 32 bit host via virtualbox
[12:04] <Ben64> Neptu: ctrl+c ?
[12:04] <jbates58> i understand that, but the odroid only has a 8gb sd card for the os, and then a 1tb hdd for files. i want the odroid to download them, and then transfer them to my pc. the pc sucks to much power to run 24/7, otherwise i would let it run and use sab on it.
[12:04] <simplexion> ekiwok, if it runs... it would be pointless
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> ekiwok: assuming the CPU allows it
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> simplexion: not really, SQL benefits greatly fro 64bitness
[12:04] <simplexion> That isn't even a hypervisor
[12:04] <Neptu> Ben64 not that kind of copy
[12:05] <Ben64> jbates58: keep the 1TB attached to the odroid, and share it over the network? :|
[12:05] <ekiwok> simplexion why pointless? you shoud notice there is NO 64 bit virtualbox for windows
[12:05] <jbates58> its pluggedinto the router, and my pc uses wireless adaptor (other end of the house)
[12:05] <simplexion> Sorry ekiwok, I don't see how running a 64bit guest on a 32bit host is possible
[12:05] <jbates58> so way to slow for that much data
[12:06] <simplexion> and if it is, it would basically be a 32 bit guest anyway
[12:06] <simplexion> just claiming to be 64bit
[12:06] <ekiwok> simplexion, it is http://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch03.html#intro-64bitguests
[12:07] <mattnie> jbates58´: what about buying a celeron nas ans let it run 24/7 and do not copy data ^^^
[12:07] <mattnie> so you can encrypt your data and you have no problem with power consumption
[12:07] <simplexion> This: "Since supporting 64 bits on 32-bit hosts incurs additional overhead, VirtualBox only enables this support upon explicit request."
[12:07] <ekiwok> simplexion, it is possible because it all depends ONLY from your processor
[12:08] <jbates58> because i have this already, and it uses less power than any intel (i think 5W at full load), i seriously doubt that i needencryption, and my media server is my pc, which has support for 180tb of storage. this has only support for usb external storage
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> simplexion: if the CPU uports 64bit guest OSes it will allow you to run either, not all 64bit CPUs suppport 64bit guest OSes
[12:10] <simplexion> ActionParsnip: I am aware of that. I see absolutely no reason you would run a 64bit guest on a 32bit host. Seems wasteful.
[12:10] <BluesKaj> 180tb...wow, or is that typo, jbates58?
[12:10] <jbates58> nope.180tb home server pc
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> simplexion: tis a bit weird, but possible
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> simplexion: I'm not seeing how it is wasteful though, what is being wasted?
[12:12] <simplexion> See above, "incurs overheads"
[12:12] <ekiwok> simplexion, there may be a lots of reasons why to run 64 bit guest
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> simplexion: will do
[12:13] <Rodrive> Hi, I just tried to install amd graphic driver, howerver when i want to dual screen i cant (virtual size error) so I added in xorg.conf Section "Screen" Virtual 3840 1080 but when I restart gdm that doesnt work, here is the xorg's log : http://paste.debian.net/250071/. Thanks for reading, and sorry for my english
[12:13] <ekiwok> simplexion, for example when you have to check or do smth that requires 64 bit OS (fe. smth for studies)
[12:13] <simplexion> If you want to virtualise 64bit machines why would you do it on a 32bit host? Seems counter-intuitive
[12:14] <ekiwok> simplexion, because for example my academic class requires to do some 64 bit assembly?
[12:15] <adamk> Rodrive: Pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file too.
[12:15] <simplexion> ekiwok, how terribly does that run?
[12:16] <Neptu> there is acommand on cosolo to copy an entire file to the clipboard or pastebin it?
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> depends what these 'overheads' are, if its something like 10Mb RAM per vm then who cares
[12:16] <jbates58> so, where did i go wrong in the fstab entry? or what do i need to modify? help is greatly appreciated
[12:16] <ekiwok> simplexion, not slower then 32 bit host
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> Neptu: pastebinit
[12:16] <adamk> Neptu: pastebinit /path/to/file
[12:16] <jrib> Neptu: xclip, xclipboard, xclip-pastefile.  Check those
[12:17] <jrib> Neptu: if your final intent is to pastebin, then use pastebinit like others have suggested
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> Neptu: cat /etc/apt/sources.list | grep http | pastebinit
[12:17] <ekiwok> simplexion, you dont feel the difference, processors with virtualisation are usually really powerfull and can handle it
[12:17] <simplexion> ekiwok, how about the memory? Can the 64bit guest use beyond 32bit host restrictions?
[12:17] <Rodrive> adamk: http://paste.debian.net/250080/
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> Neptu: great command, should be default installed imho
[12:18] <ekiwok> simplexion, I haven't checked it but I think it's impossible
[12:18] <kris-away> anyone know a gui program to sync windows over network to cli ubuntu?
[12:18] <simplexion> ekiwok, thanks for correcting me
[12:19] <simplexion> I rarely use 32bit OS these days
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> simplexion: it has its places :
[12:19] <simplexion> It's interesting your can run 64bit guest on 32bit host
[12:19] <ekiwok> simplexion, notice what's the point of installing 32 bit host on computer with 4 GB (or more) RAM ? it's why I never tested it, nowdays my 1 GB ram netbook has 64 bit OS
[12:19] <simplexion> definitely
[12:19] <adamk> Rodrive: Hmmm, not sure why it's crashing. Though I'm not using fglrx at the moment, I have used it in the past with the Virtual option in my xorg.conf file and never experienced a crash from it.
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> ekiwok: PAE gives access p to 64Gb
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> *up
[12:20] <kris-away> pae is slow
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> kris-away: still gives access :)
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> with multiarch too, 32bit should fizzle out quicker
[12:20] <Rodrive> adamk: with the default driver, dual scree worked well
[12:22] <adamk> Rodrive: Yeah, I usually just use the open source radeon driver but, as I said, when using fglrx, dual screen works fine here and I'm not really seeing anything different about your xorg.conf file.
[12:23] <Rodrive> adamk: I am still to noob to operate the crash log, thanks anyway.
[12:25] <GrygrFlzr> I can't seem to boot the ubuntu live cd without acpi=off, and it seems to hardware block my wifi. Anyone know how I can boot it without acpi=off? nouveau.blacklist=1 initiates a kernel panic.
[12:25] <Rodrive> adamk: I changed the driver, because i was trying to get a little bit more fps in some games and I thought with propriatary driver maybe i can win some
[12:27] <kris-away> file shating linux-linux-macos is easy... but I cna't find a program for windows-ubuntu sharing(syncing)
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> kris-away: owncloud, rsync, dropbox
[12:28] <Pici> kris-away: how are you sharing to macos?
[12:28] <kris-away> rsync, which is not a windows friendly thing
[12:29] <Pici> kris-away: works fine for me.  I have a few shares mounted via cifs and I sync things across them.
[12:32] <dr_willis> !info unison
[12:33] <dr_willis> or samba, or winscp+ssh
[12:33] <kris-away> i can't even find unison for indows
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> kris-away: winscp will allow secure transfer to SFTP (installed when you install openssh-server), gret for WAN data transfers and streaming
[12:34] <dr_willis> http://code.google.com/p/winison/
[12:34] <dr_willis> found it on google just now.. there may be other front ends
[12:34] <dr_willis> http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~bcpierce/unison/
[12:34] <kris-away> thanks... man google is getting unusable for searching for things
[12:34] <dr_willis> http://alan.petitepomme.net/unison/index.html
[12:35] <dr_willis> unuseable? I just used it...
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> kris-away: not used it in a while here, I use the duck :)
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> kris-away: plus it poluting links with its own stuff when you copy link addresses
[12:35]  * dr_willis just went to the unison homepage..
[12:37] <dr_willis> all i searched for was 'unison download'  and it was the first hit...
[12:37] <Axylus> I haven't used Linux for quite a few years. do you still need to use proprietary GPU drivers to get hardware acceleration?
[12:37] <dr_willis> Axylus:  depends on your video card.
[12:38] <Axylus> ugh
[12:38] <dr_willis> ugh what? it depends.. always has.. and always will.
[12:39] <Axylus> dr_willis, what are the names of the open-source drivers (so I can check compatibility)? :)
[12:39] <dr_willis> for what video chipset?
[12:40] <dr_willis> ati/amd and nvidia both have open sourced and propiraty versiopns
[12:40] <Axylus> er, I don't know. it's for a friend's computer. just the AMD and Nvidia ones
[12:40] <dr_willis> intel also has built in drivers these days.. and tools to install their latest
[12:40] <dr_willis> !nvidia
[12:40] <Axylus> !ati
[12:40] <dr_willis> and it also depends on how old the video card/chipset is
[12:41] <Axylus> dr_willis, okay. thanks again :)
[12:41] <dr_willis> just HOPE he dosent have an SiS card
[12:42] <bambanx_> a good web panel ? like cpanel but free pls?
[12:42] <ArchBeOS> hey guys, is there any way i can remove icons from unity? there are some apps in there that didnt clean up after themselves...
[12:44] <dr_willis> what apps?
[12:44] <ArchBeOS> wine apps
[12:44] <dr_willis> those are in your users home directory somewhere
[12:44] <dr_willis> like .config/applications or somthing
[12:45] <ArchBeOS> found it ~/.local/share/applications
[12:46] <dr_willis> point to rember is that  the package manager tools do NOT touch files in your home ;) and wine is special also.
[12:46] <dr_willis> bbl
[12:52] <gh_luk> Hello!
[12:53] <waqs_> hi
[12:53] <gh_luk> I am on an lubuntu installation on pentiumIII 556MHz and 256MB RAM.
[12:54] <gh_luk> now i am having the problem, that chromium always tells me it is out of memory. Task manager shows that there is memory left, but CPU is at 100%, allthough the processes running don´t make up even 20%
[12:55] <gh_luk> any suggestions?
[12:55] <anthony_> hi.  I am dual booting, and can't log in to one o.s. that has been installed a long time.  any ideas?  The password suddenly doesn't work
[12:55] <cfhowlett> anthony_, windows installation/wubi?
[12:56] <anthony_> kubuntu (dual booting with Bhodi)
[12:57] <anthony_> cfhowlett: im in bhodi, now. kubuntu won't log in.
[12:57] <cfhowlett> !password|anthony_,
[12:59] <anthony_> cfhowlett:  i will try
[13:00] <oxys> hi folks
[13:00] <cfhowlett> oxys, greetings
[13:01] <GrygrFlzr> Anyone know why I can't boot the live cd without using acpi=off?
[13:03] <MonkeyDust> GrygrFlzr  sure the cd is not corrupt? have you md5 checked it?
[13:03] <GrygrFlzr> yes.
[13:04] <MonkeyDust> GrygrFlzr  and only on that pc? have you tried on another?
[13:04] <GrygrFlzr> have not tried it on any other pcs. should I try to boot it in a VM?
[13:05] <Symmetria> hrm, is the quagga package broken in precise?
[13:06] <cfhowlett> Symmetria, candidate 0.99.20.1 shows up as candidate
[13:08] <Symmetria> cfhowlett *hrm* lemme try apt-get update and try again
[13:13] <GrygrFlzr> MonkeyDust, loads fine in my VM without any special parameters
[13:13] <bambanx_> guys how i can know my fully qualified hostname
[13:16] <MonkeyDust> GrygrFlzr  then it must be hardware related, i guess
[13:16] <GrygrFlzr> it uses Nvidia, so I was told to use nouveau.blacklist=1, didn't do anything
[13:16] <GrygrFlzr> while nomodeset causes a kernel panic
[13:17] <ForgottenEmperpr> hi
[13:18] <MonkeyDust> GrygrFlzr  put all these findings in one line and repeat it every 10-15 minutes, until someone can help
[13:18] <Draxelis> Does anyone use NOD32 on ubuntu?
[13:18] <GrygrFlzr> I did that every 30 minutes, though 15 minutes would be annoying and get me a !patient label
[13:18] <GrygrFlzr> *thought
[13:19] <cfhowlett> ForgottenEmperpr, greetings
[13:19] <ForgottenEmperpr> hey i typed my name wrong lol.. its supposed to be emperor rofl
[13:19] <MonkeyDust> ForgottenEmperpr  type /nick Emperor
[13:20] <ForgottenEmperor> ah thanks..
[13:20] <p0wn3d> gh_luk: You might want to try a distro that is for low resources. Damn small linux comes to mind
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> bambanx_: on the LAN, or the web?
[13:21] <ForgottenEmperor> does ubuntu have any tiny distro like dsl? official or unofficial?
[13:21] <Draxelis> <3 ubuntu <3  :D
[13:22] <cfhowlett> ForgottenEmperor, damn small or puppy linux ...
[13:22] <nabblet> !paste
[13:22] <sgo11> hi, I keep getting the error: "error reading: /sys/devices/virtual/thermal/thermal_zone0/temp". Then I found I didn't have this directory: "thermal_zone0". How to fix this issue? thanks.
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> ForgottenEmperor: you can install the mini ISO then install fluxbox, there is fluxbuntu but it seems dead (although they say its not). Lubuntu is light too
[13:22] <bambanx_> ActionParsnip, web
[13:23] <nabblet> hi, can some1 tell me how to fix the following dmesg messages ? http://pastebin.com/4G6aMh9V i know it got to do something with country codes and frequencies - i moved rom switzerladn to germany recently - what i googled so far did not help
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> bambanx_: I just ping -a'd your IP and got a name
[13:23] <ForgottenEmperor> hmm. i'll try that.. setting up a routing and QoS server starting with a minimal ubuntu config.. dont think any other dlinux ditro can beat the ubuntu repositry
[13:23] <ForgottenEmperor> thanks
[13:27] <ZenoArrow> Hi. I'm having trouble connecting to my *buntu box via SSH on my Windows machine. Port is blocked somewhere along the way. I'm not sure how to proceed. Help!
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> ZenoArrow: are you connecting over the internet?
[13:28] <ZenoArrow> ActionParsnip: Thanks for your reply. This is over a home network router.
[13:28] <ZenoArrow> I've already opened the port on the router.
[13:28] <ForgottenEmperor> hi ZenoArrow.. port problems usually are at the ssh server.. not the client, which, in your case is the windows machine
[13:29] <ZenoArrow> ForgottenEmperor: Thank you for your reply too. Just to clarify, the *buntu box is the server, the Windows box is the client.
[13:30] <ForgottenEmperor> ZenoArrow: yes
[13:30] <ForgottenEmperor> ZenoArrow: so forwarded ports in the router should point to the ip of the linux machine
[13:31] <ZenoArrow> Yes.
[13:31] <ZenoArrow> I've reinstalled openssh on the server, and have checked with netstat that it's listening on port 22.
[13:31] <ForgottenEmperor> ZenoArrow: have you tried conecting via the local network first?
[13:32] <jrib> ZenoArrow: can you "ssh localhost" on the server itself?
[13:32] <ZenoArrow> ForgottenEmperor: That's what I'm trying to do. I don't need to connect to the box over the Internet.
[13:32] <ZenoArrow> jrib: I'll try that now. BRB.
[13:32] <ForgottenEmperor> ZenoArrow so you windows machine and linux machine are on the same LAN?
[13:33] <ForgottenEmperor> ZenoArrow: if the are in the same LAN port fowarding isnt necessary on the router
[13:34] <ZenoArrow> ForgottenEmperor: Yes they are on the same LAN.
[13:35] <ZenoArrow> jrib: Thank you for your tip. I have tried logging in using ssh localhost on the server itself, which was successful.
[13:35] <ZenoArrow> This suggests to me the issue is with the router.
[13:35] <jrib> ZenoArrow: any output from "iptables -L" on the server?
[13:35] <ZenoArrow> jrib: Checking now...
[13:36] <sgo11> hi, I keep getting the error: "error reading: /sys/devices/virtual/thermal/thermal_zone0/temp". Then I found I didn't have this directory: "thermal_zone0". How to fix this issue? thanks.
[13:36] <James_m> Where does Firefox keeps temporary files for youtube videos (if any)?
[13:36] <ForgottenEmperor> ZenoArrow: no i dont think it;s the router.. btw how are you using ssh on your windows machine? cygwin?
[13:37] <ZenoArrow> ForgottenEmperor: Using PuTTY.
[13:38] <ForgottenEmperor> ZenoArrow: isay i dont think its the router because the router (in most cases) does not touch or affect the intra-LAN communication
[13:38] <ZenoArrow> jrib: Running iptables -L (using sudo) I get blank tables. Does this mean the firewall hasn't been setup or something?
[13:39] <bean> ZenoArrow, by default there will be no rules.
[13:39] <jrib> ZenoArrow: that's the default setup; it means you don't have any firewall rules (blocking ssh)
[13:39] <ZenoArrow> ForgottenEmperor: Okay. I just remember setting up port forwarding on the router when I got SSH working before.
[13:39] <ZenoArrow> bean and jrib: Good to know.
[13:39] <miksd> or maybe firewall running on linux machine
[13:39] <ForgottenEmperor> ZenoArrow: see the router port forwarding only comes into play when you are trying to acces your compputer ove the internet
[13:39] <ZenoArrow> Is there any way I can see (from my Windows box) whether the port is available?
[13:40] <bean> ZenoArrow, port forwarding only matters if you're sshing to your public IP
[13:40] <ForgottenEmperor> can you ping each computer from the other?
[13:41] <ZenoArrow> ForgottenEmperor: Ping comes up with "Destination host unreachable", but I've read pinging local machines often results in this error (something to do with ARP).
[13:41] <ForgottenEmperor> ZenoArrow: there's your problem
[13:42] <ForgottenEmperor> ZenoArrow: your computers cant see each other over the same network
[13:42] <ForgottenEmperor> ZenoArrow: check if both are in the same subnet
[13:42] <ZenoArrow> ForgottenEmperor: How do I fix that problem? You've already said that the router shouldn't be blocking traffic on the local network?
[13:43] <ZenoArrow> ForgottenEmperor: Yes, they are both on the same subnet. Client machine on 192.168.1.64, server machine on 192.168.1.81.
[13:43] <ForgottenEmperor> ZenoArrow: and can you atleast pingthe router form both?
[13:43] <ZenoArrow> ForgottenEmperor: Checking now...
[13:43] <ForgottenEmperor> ZenoArrow : which i am guessing must be 192.168.1.1
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> ZenoArrow: can you ping the server by IP?
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> ZenoArrow: can yo u tenet to the socket?
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> ZenoArrow: did you configure a firewall on the server side?
[13:45] <ForgottenEmperor> ZenoArrow: just type "ping 192.168.1.1" in the terminal of each computer (assuming your router is 192.168.1.1)
[13:47] <ForgottenEmperor> ZenoArrow: if you can get the ping to work .. i m pretty sure you won't have an problem SSHing
[13:48] <ActionParsnip> ZenoArrow: also make sure the service is running on the server side
[13:48] <ForgottenEmperor> ZenoArrow: lol
[13:49] <p0wn3d> Channel title should be "Google it first" :)
[13:49] <ForgottenEmperor> hey has anyone here tried running league of legends on wine?
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> p0wn3d: users should think that first, then ask second (imho)
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> ForgottenEmperor: is it in the appdb?
[13:50] <MonkeyDust> !appdb | ForgottenEmperor
[13:51] <murxlaus> hi, i have a udevd-timeout-killing-event on startup and want to find out wicht module is responsible. What can i do?
[13:51] <ForgottenEmperor> actually i was just asking generally if anyone ever tried it and what results they got
[13:51] <hhuo> hi, i'm trying to install riak on ubuntu 12.10 (instructions there http://docs.basho.com/riak/latest/tutorials/installation/Installing-on-Debian-and-Ubuntu/), but I'm getting "W: Failed to fetch http://apt.basho.com/dists/quantal/main/binary-i386/Packages  403  Forbidden" when doing sudo apt-get update
[13:53] <ZenoArrow> I'm back, sorry about that, dodgy power connection on laptop, fixed now.
[13:53] <MonkeyDust> hhuo  what's the output of lsb_release -sd ?
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> hhuo: doesn't seem to support quantal
[13:53] <hhuo> MonkeyDust: Ubuntu 12.10
[13:54] <ZenoArrow> ForgottenEmperor: Was successfully able to ping router (192.168.1.254) from both client and server.
[13:54] <shogunrisk_> Does anyone know how to fix glitchy graphics when using ubuntu 12.10 on a mac?
[13:54] <ZenoArrow> What else can I try?
[13:54] <hhuo> ok so i need to build from source
[13:55] <ZenoArrow> I tried nmap as well on the router, it listed port 22 as 'filtered'. Is this a clue to what's happening?
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> hhuo: http://apt.basho.com/dists/    you could try the Precise deb, the massive clue that quantal wasn't supported is on the link you gave....it doesn't mention it....
[13:55] <ForgottenEmperor> ZenoArrow: hmm so you can ping the router from both but cant ping each other.. hmm
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> hhuo: did that not stick out to you...?
[13:55] <ZenoArrow> ForgottenEmperor: Yes, exactly that. Bit strange eh!
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> hhuo: you could change the .list file to say precise instead of quantal and it may work
[13:56] <ForgottenEmperor> ZenoArrow: have you tried disabling firewall on the windows system.. also another reason might be is that the router might be implementing some sort of client isolation
[13:56] <ZenoArrow> tracert 192.168.1.81 from the Windows machine results in 'Destination host unreachable' also.
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> ZenoArrow: are both systems Ubuntu based?
[13:57] <ZenoArrow> ForgottenEmperor: Okay, will try disabling firewall on the Windows system.
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> ZenoArrow: is the windows system connected to a VPN currently?
[13:57] <ZenoArrow> ActionParsnip: The client is Windows based, the server is *buntu.
[13:57]  * wickedpuppy would have also say vlan ... 
[13:58] <hhuo> ActionParsnip: now update works, but it cannot find the package riak
[13:58] <ZenoArrow> ActionParsnip: Both the Windows system and the server are only connected via a home router, no VPN involved.
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> hhuo: I'd contact the site maintainers
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> ZenoArrow: I suggest you reboot the router, then reboot the clients, some networking logic has broken down somewhere
[13:59] <ForgottenEmperor> ZenoArrow: also u can try wiring both the LAN ports of the two computers together directly, completely bypasing the router.
[14:00] <mattnie> ZenoArrow: Are they connected via wlan?
[14:00] <ZenoArrow> ActionParsnip: I've rebooted both systems before. I'll try disabling the firewall as ForgottenEmperor suggested, then try resetting the router.
[14:00] <ZenoArrow> mattnie: Yes, they are connected via wlan.
[14:00] <mattnie> zenoarrow: there is often the routeroption "allow clients to comunicate"
[14:01] <ForgottenEmperor> ZenoArrow: well in that case.. note that a lot of home WLAN rrouters do implement client isolation
[14:01] <ZenoArrow> mattnie: I'm using a BT Home Hub router, where might I find that setting?
[14:02] <mattnie> zenoarrow: sorry i don't know ^^ but maybe in e. g. "local network" "homenetwork" "wireless" "wlan"
[14:02] <ForgottenEmperor> ZenoArrow: try pointing your browser to 192.168.1.254
[14:03] <ForgottenEmperor> ZenoArrow: another thing you can try that will most definielty work is put the two computers in an ad-hoc wireless network
[14:03] <ZenoArrow> I've turned off Windows Firewall. Tried doing a port scan via nmap on the homehub router, port 22 is still listed as filtered.
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> ZenoArrow: also try telnetting to the socket, it will show it os listening
[14:04] <ForgottenEmperor> ZenoArrow: this way you are bypassing the router
[14:04] <boyxboy77> http://xhotspanishgirls.blogspot.com/2013/04/hot-galleries.html
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> ZenoArrow: if you are connecting over the LAN, then the wan port 22 isn't much use (unless you want access from outside and that is the goal)
[14:05] <ZenoArrow> ForgottenEmperor: If I do that (adhoc network), wouldn't I lose the ability to connect to the Internet? Note that each machine only has one wifi device each.
[14:06] <ZenoArrow> ActionParsnip: Okay, will try telnetting to the socket.
[14:06] <ForgottenEmperor> ZenoArrow: well atleat you can use the ad-hoc to troubleshoot your current situation
[14:06] <ForgottenEmperor> ZenoArrow: if ad-hoc works .. your routers theculprit
[14:07] <ZenoArrow> ForgottenEmperor: True. Will try that after telnet.
[14:07] <ForgottenEmperor> ZenoArrow:and if your router is indeed the root of the problem.. try the manufacurers website or similar source to hel you wit that
[14:08] <akan01n> hi, everytime I reboot the resolution comes back to the original 1440x900, how do I persist ? Ubuntu 12.04
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> akan01n: what video chip do you use?
[14:09] <ForgottenEmperor> akan01n: how many monitors do you have?
[14:09] <ZenoArrow> ForgottenEmperor: I will. Thing is, I've already successfully setup SSH on this router before, I usually only have to make the port available and that's all. It's really strange that it's acting differently this time.
[14:10] <akan01n> I have one, at the moment I have to test so I am running on a VM.
[14:10] <Wraps> What does make my ubuntu to hang on a black screen sometimes?
[14:10] <Wraps> while bootin
[14:10] <Wraps> g
[14:10] <akan01n> test software*, not Ubuntu.
[14:10] <ForgottenEmperor> ZenoArrow: i understand. but something has probably changed. and it seems like a network layer problem to me.. no the OS or firewall
[14:10] <trejiin> I started using an apple trackpad. To adjust the settings I've been using gpointing-device-settings. So everytime I turn the laptop on and turn the trackpad on gpointing-device-settings adds a whole new trackpad to the list, shows 4 now.
[14:10] <trejiin> Any ideas how to stop this from happening>
[14:10] <trejiin> ?
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> akan01n: I have a VM using LXDE, I use xrandr to set the res in the startup, you could add similar
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> akan01n: I use:   xrandr --auto --output VBOX0 --primary --mode 1280x960
[14:12] <she_dyed> trajin what about a script to not do anything when it existxs already
[14:12] <akan01n> ActionParsnip: ok, let me check, I have to create a file called .xrandr ? or the tool will create one for me ?
[14:12] <she_dyed> trejiin: what about a script to not do anything when it existxs already
[14:12] <ForgottenEmperor> akan01n: yes use an xrandr startup script
[14:12] <ForgottenEmperor> akan01n: so it's persistent at every login
[14:13] <akan01n> ForgottenEmperor: ok
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> akan01n: just add it in the startup items. Are you using LXDE too?
[14:13] <trejiin> she_dyed: Not really sure how to do that. I'll have to look into how gpointing-device-settings works.
[14:13] <akan01n> ActionParsnip: no, Parallels Desktop
[14:13] <trejiin> Was hoping for a way to delete the previous ones for now.
[14:13] <she_dyed> trejiin: once you find the 4 getting the name is easy
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> akan01n: in Ubuntu?
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> akan01n: can you run parallels as a DE in Ubuntu?
[14:15] <akan01n> ActionParsnip: yes, Im running Ubuntu with Parallels, flawlessly.. :)
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> akan01n: yes, but which desktop in Ubuntu
[14:16] <ForgottenEmperor> akan01n: what's the host machine? mac?
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> akan01n: Gnome? KDE? LXDE
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> ?
[14:16] <akan01n> ForgottenEmperor: yes
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> akan01n: I you using Unity with the icons down the left side?
[14:16] <akan01n> ActionParsnip: ahnnn.. the defult one from Ubuntu Desktop 12.04L.
[14:17] <akan01n> ActionParsnip: yes
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> akan01n: then that is Gnome, with Unity shell. The fact it is running in Parallels is of absolutely zero value
[14:17] <ForgottenEmperor> akan01n: i think most vms allow you to setup virtual monitor sizes. i might be wrong.. but the problem that your screenresoultion rests at every reboot seems to me that the VM is not detecting the right sized virtual monitor at boot
[14:17] <TvL2386> hi guys, I've just restored an ubuntu-10.04 server to another server (other disks), updated fstab with new uuid's, ran grub-install but the server didn't came up. The kernel command line still has the wrong UUID for the root partition. Where can I change this?
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> akan01n: when someine says "what desktop are you running", you respond "gnome", as that is the desktop environment in Ubuntu
[14:18] <akan01n> ActionParsnip: ahn.. ok! sorry! :P
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> TvL2386: I'd boot to liveCD and you can chroot to the installed OS
[14:18] <TvL2386> ActionParsnip, done that... that's how I restored and ran grub-install and such
[14:18] <hzform> 有人用flashget for linux吗？
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> akan01n: if you make a startup item using the 'startup items' thing in Dash, you can add the command
[14:18] <akan01n> ForgottenEmperor: Im going to check, the resolution is ok, 1440x900, but I want a higher one.
[14:18] <mac_> hy all.. when i run linux and login as ubuntu, only desktop notification show up and slidewall (desktop changer).. :(
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> TvL2386: you could use the old style /dev/sda1 etc in fstab, it does work
[14:19] <genii-around> !ch | hzform
[14:19] <genii-around> Bleh
[14:19] <genii-around> !cn | hzform
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> mac_: Which release are you using?
[14:19] <mac_> 12.04 lts
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> mac_: tried the Unity2D session?
[14:20] <TvL2386> ActionParsnip, The UUID defined in /etc/fstab is the correct one, because I changed it after the restore. The one that's in the kernel command line differs from this one. So it seems fstab is not used as input for that
[14:20] <mac_> not yet
[14:20] <mac_> brb
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> TvL2386: could manually edit grub.conf just to get a boot
[14:20] <ForgottenEmperor> you know this is my first time on the ubuntu IRC channel (or any IRC channel tbh :P) .. and man, have i been missing something!
[14:21] <TvL2386> ActionParsnip, where is it? I've mounted the partition, but running "find . -name grub.conf" comes up empty
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> ForgottenEmperor: its a good support network
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> TvL2386: /boot/grub/grub.cfg   (or similar)
[14:21] <ForgottenEmperor> ActionParsnip: i realized :)
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> ForgottenEmperor: windows has a channel too ##windows
[14:22] <ArchBeOS> hey guys, quick question. any gotchas from upgrading distros? 12.10 to 13.04?
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> ArchBeOS: proprietary video drivers can go funny
[14:22] <TvL2386> ActionParsnip, Ah thanks! I've been blinded by grub.conf (instead of cfg) You are correct... I find the old UUID in there
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> TvL2386: yay, maybe if you boot to the install ok and rerun update-grub it may use the right UUID
[14:23] <ArchBeOS> ActionParsnip: good thing i only use foss :)
[14:23] <ArchBeOS> thans
[14:23] <ArchBeOS> thanks
[14:24] <TvL2386> ActionParsnip, I think it's probably because i updated fstab after running grub-install / update-grub. I forgot it and had to reboot from livecd in order to fix... update-grub probably reads fstab and took the wrong UUID???
[14:24] <mac_> i am now on ubuntu 2d
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> TvL2386: maybe
[14:24] <mac_> sems to work fine
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> mac_: better?
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> mac_: yep, no stupid compiz stinking the place up :)
[14:25] <phorvath> .join #kivy
[14:25] <mac_> am... normal anglesh..
[14:25] <mac_> compiz sux?
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> mac_: the 2D versipn doesn't use COmpiz which is used to make all the pretty effects
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> mac_: imho compiz is a joke
[14:25] <mac_> aha
[14:25] <mac_> imho?
[14:25] <mac_> what those then? if no compiz..
[14:26] <mac_> what then? if not compiz..
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> mac_: imho = in my humble opinion
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> mac_: you are running Metacity, or mutter. I forget which
[14:27] <mac_> yeah.. and a nice one too
[14:27] <mac_> ?
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> mac_: nice one what?
[14:27] <mac_> joek
[14:27] <mac_> joke
[14:27] <mac_> :)
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> ahhhh i see
[14:28] <mac_> so.. got anything better ?
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> mac_: than what?
[14:29] <mac_> so i need to remove compiz? and reinstalled to use it? /than compiz
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> mac_: just leave it installed, ut doesn't hurt aything being there
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> *it
[14:29] <mac_> W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ precise/partner i386 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.canonical.com_ubuntu_dists_precise_partner_binary-i386_Packages)
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> mac_: what is the output of:  grep -R partner /etc/apt/*      please
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> mac_: use http://paste.ubuntu.com
[14:31] <TvL2386> ActionParsnip, I reran update-grub, compared the new grub.cfg with the old one and all uuids where updated! :D THanks!
[14:31] <gordonjcp> afternoon
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> TvL2386: yay :)
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> hi gordonjcp
[14:31] <gordonjcp> has anyone pointed out that Ubuntu bombards the user with homosexual slurs when something crashes, yet?
[14:31] <TvL2386> ActionParsnip, yay indeed! Should have updated fstab at first :)
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> TvL2386: you git there, and you know for next time :)
[14:33] <TvL2386> ActionParsnip, sure do! I've converted an ubuntu10.04 physical machine to a KVM virtual machine
[14:34] <gordonjcp> o_O
[14:34] <adamk> gordonjcp: I've never heard anyone mention that, but I am curious what you're talking about...
[14:35] <llutz> !ot | gordonjcp adamk
[14:35] <gordonjcp> adamk: the crash report collection daemon is called "wh**psie"
[14:36] <mac_> thank u, 2 look at this.. : http://imagebin.org/254353 and http://paste.ubuntu.com/5716091/
[14:36] <drkat> Hello, I have an ubuntu box running 9.1 and it is terrible sluggish. top does not show any CPU/Memory issues but logins are slow, and web sites are serving slow and timing out, CLI is slow to respond as well.  This is a virtual box and VM shows it pegged for CPU, but whats weird is top doesnt show anything
[14:36] <gordonjcp> adamk: oh well, obviously using offensive language is okay if it's the Ubuntu devs doing it
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> mac_: sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/precise-partner.list*
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> mac_: sudo apt-get update
[14:37] <she_dyed> drkat: 9.1?
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> mac_: the partner repo is already defined in /etc/apt/sources.list so you don't need the extra file
[14:37] <grubbed> Ciao a tutti :))
[14:38] <xen> hello i have an huawei e1550 modem with i connect it it connects for a while and then message displays modem disconnected ubuntu 12.04.2
[14:38] <drkat> she_dyed, thats what it shows me on the login
[14:38] <drkat> Im not overly familiar
[14:38] <she_dyed> i believe this is supprt for 12.04
[14:39] <xen> so where should i go for 12.04.1
[14:39] <drkat> well the box cant be upgraded
[14:39] <xen> sory 12.04.2
[14:39] <she_dyed> you'er ok xen
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> she_dyed: this is support for 11.10, 12.04 and 12.10
[14:40] <mac_> aha
[14:40] <xen>  she_dyed : yea m fine
[14:40] <she_dyed> is ther a
[14:40] <she_dyed> !eol
[14:40] <she_dyed> !eol > drkat
[14:40] <xen> will i get help here
[14:40] <pdkl> Is there a good book on 12.10 ubuntu admin?
[14:40] <pdkl> things are different in ubuntu, im a rhce
[14:41] <Pici> xen: here. or #ubuntu-server if you're running server.
[14:41] <pdkl> and i cant figure out how the logs work and etc
[14:41] <she_dyed> xen if a person knows about your problem you can get help otehrwise theres the forums too if you don't have much time
[14:42] <xen>  i have an huawei e1550 modem with i connect it it connects for a while and then message displays modem disconnected ubuntu 12.04.2
[14:42] <Atum_> Is 13.04 out?
[14:42] <drkat> Ok so I'm SOL is what you're saying?
[14:43] <philinux> Atum_: 25th april
[14:43] <xen> please help
[14:43] <she_dyed> try a live disc drkat or liveUSB of a more recent flavor
[14:43] <Atum_> philinux: Ok, thanks.
[14:43] <drkat> ya know I'm gonna go and ... yeah thanks
[14:46] <philinux> Atum_: you might like info here http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=427
[14:47] <Atum_> philinux: I'll check it out, ty
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> Atum_: #ubuntu+1 for any Raring support questions til release day
[14:50] <caroline_> comment faire fonctionner une webcam intégrée sur mini compaq qvp =s
[14:50] <caroline_> ?
[14:51] <GridCube> i've seen this "sudo apt-get install libcupsimage2:i386" hinted as a solution to a problem on 64bits machines and cups problems on debian, will this apt-get :i386 work on my xubuntu 12.10 amd64?
[14:52] <sharinganex> caroline_: en français c'est sur #ubuntu-fr
[14:53] <philinux> GridCube: what printer are u having problems with?
[14:54] <virus> holo
[14:54] <GridCube> xerox phaser 3040 drivers are 32bits http://forum.support.xerox.com/t5/Printing/Phaser-6010-driver-Linux-64-bits/td-p/5244/page/2
[14:54] <Abhi89> hello
[14:54] <she_dyed> sharinganex: am curious, do you still use cp, mv or are there also french equivalents
[14:54] <GridCube> xerox support says 10.0lts is supported but no longer :(
[14:54] <Abhi89> i  need help
[14:54] <virus> ok
[14:55] <Abhi89> how to check graphics memory ?
[14:55] <sharinganex> she_dyed: same commands
[14:55] <she_dyed> thx sharinganex
[14:56] <GridCube> philinux, do you think that that apt-get line, forcing the 32bits, its an option? im not in that machine now to test it
[14:56] <GridCube> i just want to know if i should bother to try
[14:59] <philinux> GridCube: cant see it doing any harm it can alwasy
[14:59] <philinux> always be removed
[14:59] <GridCube> philinux, :) thanks, will have some hope then
[15:00]  * GridCube phews for now, only option he had was to re-install linux
[15:00] <philinux> GridCube: if you really need the printer you could install 32 bit os
[15:00] <GridCube> philinux, yeah, but a reinstall...
[15:00] <philinux> GridCube: good luck hope it works without reinstall
[15:01] <GridCube> me too
[15:01] <GridCube> thanks bro
[15:01] <philinux> GridCube: you could also try a live usb 32 bit and see if that works
[15:02] <GridCube> true that, i do have this netbook runing i386, but its xubuntu 12.04, no 12.10
[15:08] <petey> hey everyone
[15:08] <SonikkuAmerica> Yo
[15:11] <petey> so would you guys reccomend just installing ubuntu on a 16GB flash drive for just quick CLI use?
[15:11] <petey> im not really trying to install anything special but i hate having to install sublime text / IRC every time i boot up
[15:13] <SonikkuAmerica> petey: A 16 GB one?
[15:13] <tmmunq> how's the fglrx driver these days? I want to do opencl on an amd card, but i would prefer to stick with the radeon driver
[15:13] <she_dyed> the minimal CD might be ok for you petey
[15:13] <petey> yeah I mean it's what 4.6GB?
[15:13] <petey> how do I get started without just making a bootable USB?
[15:14] <petey> I'm not looking for persistence am I, just straight up install?
[15:14] <speedy_> I screwed things up after updating to 13.04, seems fglrx doesn't support the card anymore, how to enable open source display driver?
[15:14] <she_dyed> petey but idk, the ones i've used would use up the drive
[15:14] <SonikkuAmerica> speedy_: Ask in #ubuntu+1
[15:15] <petey> she_dyed what do you mean
[15:15] <chiluk> ls
[15:15] <chiluk> sigh
[15:15] <ActionParsnip> chiluk: install sl too :)
[15:15] <SonikkuAmerica> ActionParsnip: lol
[15:15] <ActionParsnip> choo-woo
[15:16] <she_dyed> petey the 12G or so would  remain a waste of space in my case
[15:16] <philinux> petey: a live usb uses about 2 gig
[15:17] <she_dyed> petey if i start paritioning the usb it won't boot on my hw, without plop
[15:18] <Utilisateur> Bonjour, j'ai un problème de pass "system policy" pour éteindre la machine, comment désactiver cette demande de pass inutile ?
[15:18] <petey> im so confused
[15:18] <SonikkuAmerica> !fr | Utilisateur
[15:18] <r4f3> guys, where is termiinal located?
[15:18] <petey> so what's my best option for creating a bootable USB that has saved software on it
[15:19] <chiluk> petey if you are savvy https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot/Examples or  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1288604
[15:19] <chiluk> are my favorite ways.
[15:19] <chiluk> that way you don't have to waste a whole usb stick for one iso.
[15:19] <r4f3> cause the new unity thing wont find anyting
[15:20] <SonikkuAmerica> r4f3: It won't find anything? What do you mean?
[15:20] <chiluk> I'd really like to see Ubuntu move to using loopback mounted isos as the default usb install methoed in the future.
[15:20] <ubuntuaddicted> anyone in here familiar with permissions and transmission-daemon?
[15:20] <petey> chiluk i did the thing you see in the thread already
[15:20] <qubit01> Anyone have a GeForce 650M Graphics card running with  ubuntu ?
[15:20] <petey> that's how im on right now, but i need to be able to save some programs
[15:21] <r4f3> guys, where is terminal located?
[15:21] <r4f3> guys, where is terminal located?
[15:21] <petey> i dont want to keep re downloading the stuff i use on a daily basis
[15:21] <petey> r4f3 top left corner click the dash bar and type in terminal
[15:21] <r4f3> i tried but it doenst appear!
[15:21] <philinux> petey: live usb with persistance maybe
[15:21] <ubuntuaddicted> r4f3, try gnome-terminal
[15:21] <r4f3> how?
[15:22] <r4f3> i can't open terminal to install
[15:22] <TK-999> Ctrl+Alt+T?
[15:22] <petey> i hear there's a problem with persistence isnt there
[15:23] <petey> so it's better off just installing it onto the flash drive like you would on a normal hard drive
[15:23] <philinux> petey: used to be but fixed now
[15:23] <tabeaux> !isitout
[15:23] <SonikkuAmerica> r4f3: Did you just open up the Unity dash or use Alt+F2?
[15:23] <r4f3> i tried unity dash
[15:23] <r4f3> anything i type
[15:23] <petey> philinux: would you have a source?
[15:23] <SonikkuAmerica> tabeaux: Hopefully 2013.04.25
[15:24] <chiluk> petey, sorry I missed the persistence thing..  sorry I only use usb to install
[15:24] <r4f3> it doesnt apear a thing!
[15:24] <r4f3> and ctrl alt T wont wor kalso..
[15:24] <tabeaux> SonikkuAmerica: I heard canonical is going to move ubuntu to rolling release
[15:24] <petey> chiluk: its okay!
[15:24] <sh3llc0d3r> hey there
[15:24] <tabeaux> SonikkuAmerica: If this happens, they pretty much lost all steam
[15:24] <SonikkuAmerica> tabeaux: That isn't what Mark Shuttleworth said is going to happen (at least immediately)
[15:24] <tabeaux> Mark Shutlleworthless :)
[15:24] <ubuntuaddicted> i need help with the transmission-daemon and permissions
[15:25] <radioactive> hey
[15:25] <sgonline> hey its been over 10 yrs since i been on mirc
[15:25] <sgonline> lol
[15:25] <tgm4883> tabeaux, although you may disagree with his decisions, every project needs someone that will make those decisions
[15:25] <chiluk> tabeaux, why is rolling releases such a bad thing>.... also realize it's rolling releases + LTS's
[15:25] <tabeaux> SonikkuAmerica: thanks for the information
[15:25] <philinux> petey: only source is my usb persistant live usb which works. 12.10
[15:26] <tabeaux> tgm4883: I don't disagree, I just think they're being silly
[15:26] <SonikkuAmerica> tabeaux: However, starting with 13.04 the release support schecdule is only 9 months, not 18.
[15:26] <chiluk> tabeaux, it's we... we are a community
[15:26] <tabeaux> chiluk: Because for users, the excitement is in the releases
[15:26] <SonikkuAmerica> so 13.04 EOL will happen before 12.10
[15:26] <tgm4883> tabeaux, this is part of a longer discussion we could have, but it would need to be in #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:26] <SonikkuAmerica> !ot
[15:26] <tabeaux> SonikkuAmerica: ok
[15:26] <ubuntuaddicted> anyone in here use transmission-daemon and the web interface?
[15:26] <tabeaux> tgm4883: Wrong
[15:27] <tgm4883> wtf?
[15:27] <ActionParsnip> SonikkuAmerica: no, 12.10 will EOL 18 months after release, 13.04 will EOL 18 months after its release
[15:27] <petey> philinux: im just wondering how to do it lol
[15:27] <SonikkuAmerica> ActionParsnip: Someone needs to fix Wikipedia then.
[15:27] <ActionParsnip> SonikkuAmerica: 12.04 will EOL 5 years frmo release
[15:27] <chiluk> tgm4883, you've been having a bad few days.
[15:27] <zrzerenato> hi to all
[15:27] <chiluk> tgm4883, at least on irc
[15:27] <r4f3> I type terminal in the dash and -> Sorry there is nothing that matches your search
[15:27] <SonikkuAmerica> ActionParsnip: I knew that XD
[15:27] <philinux> petey start up disk creator
[15:28] <MonkeyDust> ActionParsnip  as of 13.04 : eol 9 months afer release
[15:28] <ActionParsnip> MonkeyDust: oh, is that new?
[15:28] <SonikkuAmerica> ActionParsnip: Here: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/03/ubuntu-to-halve-support-window-for-regular-releases
[15:28] <tgm4883> chiluk, I think I'll just stop talking to people
[15:28] <ActionParsnip> i see
[15:28] <ubuntuaddicted> r4f3, did you try gnome-terminal
[15:28] <chiluk> tgm4883, don't do that.  I enjoyed our conversation yesterday.. I learned something...
[15:28] <r4f3> what do you mean?
[15:28] <r4f3> How to try it?
[15:29] <ubuntuaddicted> r4f3, type in gnome-terminal in the dash search bar
[15:29] <SonikkuAmerica> ActionParsnip: So 13.04 EOL is before 12.10 EOL
[15:29] <ubuntuaddicted> r4f3, what version of ubuntu are you using?
[15:29] <MonkeyDust> ActionParsnip  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases <-- that's 9 months
[15:29] <SonikkuAmerica> 3-month window
[15:29] <tgm4883> chiluk, yea I won't just stop
[15:29] <zrzerenato> ive just installed latest version virtualbox on ubuntu 12.04 and i cannoit find laucher icon. I downloaded latest version from virtualbox.org , an run a .deb package. it isntalled autamaticly, but how do i find the executable file?
[15:29] <tgm4883> chiluk, I'll just be meaner to users that do dumb things
[15:29] <philinux> r4f3: does ctrl alt t do anything
[15:29] <r4f3> ubuntuaddicted same...nothing  that mathces
[15:29] <ubuntuaddicted> r4f3, what version of ubuntu?
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> SonikkuAmerica: seems so in light of new info :)
[15:29] <chiluk> tgm4883, just be meaner to the ones that are trying to pick fights.
[15:29] <r4f3> just installed 12.04 64bit
[15:29] <r4f3> in VB
[15:30] <ubuntuaddicted> can anyone please help with transmission-daemon and permissions?
[15:30] <tush> Creative Elite pro IO Console not working in ubuntu 12.04 64bit
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> MonkeyDust: since my new job I've been outta the loop with all the news and changes
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> ubuntuaddicted: as and see
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> tush: are there any bugs reported?
[15:30] <MonkeyDust> ActionParsnip  now thou knowest what #ubuntu is useful for
[15:30] <she_dyed> zrzerenato: dpkg-query -L virtualbox
[15:30] <tush> ActionParsnip, no
[15:30] <chiluk> ubuntuaddicted, why don't you phrase your question like such ... when I do blah... such and such gives me this error
[15:31] <petey> philinux: is it possible to run the start up disk creator and install it on the same USB it's running from? lol
[15:31] <Kartagis> hi
[15:31] <chiluk> petey I wouldn't advise it
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> petey: i'd say no, not tried it though
[15:31] <tush> ActionParsnip, just console not working, i cant increase and decrease volume from console
[15:31] <Kartagis> I'm trying to hook my laptop to a tv and display from there. what's the easiest way to do that?
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> tush: I suggest you report a bug
[15:32] <ubuntuaddicted> r4f3, on the left side, within the side bar, the icon that has like a black screen is the terminal. i have no idea why it's not appearing when you type in either terminal or gnome-terminal
[15:32] <petey> yeah that's what i figured
[15:32] <Kartagis> as soon as I connect to tv, a sony appears in display settings but I can't navigate to it because my cursor is on the tv
[15:32] <petey> what do you guys reccomend I do then? I only have one USB stick
[15:32] <SARC> I seek advice to troubleshoot a bootup error:  BAR 6: address space collision on of device
[15:32] <r4f3> yeah me neither ubuntuaddicted
[15:32] <r4f3> where is located in the filesystem?
[15:32] <tush> ActionParsnip, its a external I/O console of creative Elite Pro Sound card
[15:32] <zrzerenato> she_dyed: thanks for the answer, but what this shuld do?
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> SARC: have you tested your RAM using Memtest86+ from grub
[15:33] <ActionParsnip> tush: I gathered
[15:33] <she_dyed> zrzerenato: lists where your stuff went
[15:33] <chiluk> petey, install to a hard drive ?
[15:33] <philinux> petey: with a live usb you can still use the remaining space for storage
[15:33] <SARC> ActionParsnip: Yes, I have and it passed
[15:33] <petey> i dont have a hard drive i can install to right now
[15:33] <zrzerenato> she_dyed: it just says it's now installed
[15:33] <ubuntuaddicted> r4f3, most likely /usr/bin/
[15:33] <tgm4883> Kartagis, so the displays aren't mirrored?
[15:33] <tush> ActionParsnip, what you suggest anything to configure or any specific driver needs to be download
[15:33] <petey> philinux: how? every time i load up the USB stick none of the software i downloaded is saved
[15:33] <Kartagis> nope
[15:33] <chiluk> petey ubuntu does not use that much space.. is there any chance that you could repartition the drive.. or resize the partitions?
[15:33] <Kartagis> tgm4883: nope
[15:34] <philinux> petey: it's not persistant then
[15:34] <chiluk> philinix the persistence is in home iirc
[15:34] <petey> philinux: is it possible to make it persistant without going through the process
[15:34] <Kartagis> tgm4883: I should click on 'mirror displays' ?
[15:34] <petey> chiluk: not currently, i would have to do it after work
[15:34] <she_dyed> zrzerenato: thats a big L
[15:34] <ActionParsnip> tush: could check the creative linux site, they may have a guide. Creative stuff is far from easy to setup, or worth it
[15:34] <tgm4883> Kartagis, is the sony tv on the right(direction) side of your other display
[15:34] <r4f3> i got it!
[15:34] <Kartagis> tgm4883: yes
[15:34] <r4f3> i found it
[15:34] <r4f3> thanks anyway!
[15:34] <tgm4883> Kartagis, are you using unity?
[15:35] <Kartagis> tgm4883: no, cairo-dock
[15:35] <petey> be right back, thanks guys
[15:35] <tgm4883> Kartagis, hmm.
[15:35] <Kartagis> tgm4883: I can switch to unity if need be
[15:35] <chiluk> petey you might not be able to do it.  unless you are willing to buy another drive.
[15:35] <chiluk> or find someone with a real install that can reflash your drive
[15:35] <tgm4883> Kartagis, are you able to open the monitors app on the sony screen after you connect it?
[15:36] <chiluk> petey are you using loopback iso's right now or did you use startup disk creator?
[15:36] <Kartagis> tgm4883: nope, only the desktop shows on the tv
[15:36] <cloudgeek> on 12.04 lts, installing vim 7.3.888 using apt-get ! how
[15:36] <ubuntuaddicted> when I add a torrent to the web interface of transmission, the user and persmissions are 116 and avahi and I can't interact at all with it since permission are rwxrwsr-x, what do I have to do so that my user can delete the file?
[15:37] <tgm4883> Kartagis, hmm, not sure then. If you were using unity, i was going to see if you could just move really fast to the other screen since there is a stickiness on the edges
[15:37] <chiluk> ubuntuaddicted, easy way is to use sudo chown a+w <the file>
[15:37] <chiluk> then you can delete it.
[15:38] <ubuntuaddicted> chiluk, i know that, i am speaking in terms so that I can interact with the file without having to chown them everytime I add a new torrent
[15:38] <chiluk> ubuntuaddicted, sorry that should have been sudo chmod a+w <the file>
[15:38] <rymate1234> Yo
[15:38] <rymate1234> I installed compiz fusion from apt-get
[15:38] <rymate1234> Launched it
[15:38] <rymate1234> But the icon isn't appearing in the kde notification tray
[15:39] <chiluk> ubuntuaddicted, check /etc/apache2
[15:39] <rymate1234> *system tray
[15:39] <Gato> anybody know what happend with bumblebee in ubuntu 13.04?
[15:39] <Gato> i cant install it
[15:39] <chiluk> ubuntuaddicted, my guess is that the web based transmission client has some permissions that you can set there.
[15:39] <zrzerenato> she_dyed: in my sftware center it says those package are installed, but doesnt show where, if i run dpkg-query -L virtualbox shows this package is not installed  VBox, VBoxAutostart, VBoxBalloonCtrl, VBoxHeadless, VBoxManage, VBoxSDL, VBoxTunctl, VBoxVRDP, VirtualBox, rdesktop-vrdp, vboxautostart, vboxballoonctrl, vboxheadless, vboxmanage, vboxsdl, vboxwebsrv, virtualbox
[15:39] <chiluk> ubuntuaddicted, I really have never played with it though.
[15:39] <chiluk> ubuntuaddicted, good luck
[15:40] <rymate1234> Ok
[15:40] <rymate1234> Fusion-icon has a segmentation fault on launch
[15:40] <she_dyed> zrzerenato: is it virtualbox, try typing in the searchbar the first few letters
[15:41] <she_dyed> or vbox iirc zrzerenato
[15:43] <zrzerenato> she_dyed: ok i got it.. but which package should i run to execute the program?
[15:43] <dmz> help! :) i can't find add-apt-repository; just built brand new system and instlled python-software-properties and it only has a bunch of locales files
[15:43] <Kartagis> tgm4883: all is okay now, but it's too small :S
[15:44] <TK-999> dmz: The command is not found?
[15:44] <tgm4883> Kartagis, sounds like resolution, which is normal, as you are on a TV now. you should look up dpi settings
[15:45] <Gato> can you help me? how can i install bumblebee on ubuntu 13.04??
[15:45] <Kartagis> tgm4883: I tried 1280x800, got "could not assing CRCT's to outputs"
[15:45] <tgm4883> Gato, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee
[15:46] <dmz> TK-999 nm too many terminal windows open; was on wrong server :)
[15:46] <chiluk> dmz, it looks like something is corrupted.
[15:46] <tgm4883> Kartagis, that is resolution, you need to change dpi
[15:46] <chiluk> because when I dpkg -L python-software-properties   I don't see any locale files
[15:46] <chiluk> dmz, hah
[15:46] <Kartagis> tgm4883: is DPI also on display settings? I don't have it if so
[15:47] <tgm4883> Kartagis, no, you'll need to manually configure it. I don't recall offhand how to do that, but I think it's in xorg.conf
[15:48] <ladislaw> i have both ubuntu and mac connected to wifi.  I'd like to transfer some of the files from my ubuntu machine to the mac. How do i do this?
[15:49] <she_dyed> ladislaw: can they ping each other
[15:49] <ladislaw> let me see
[15:49] <Gato> thank you tgm4883
[15:49] <tgm4883> Gato, yw
[15:53] <ubuntuaddicted> not sure how to handle permissions and owner with the transmission-daemon. anyone else use it?
[15:53] <ubuntuaddicted> the other tricky part is that it's writing data to a NFS shared drive if that matters.
[15:54] <chiluk> ubuntuaddicted, what user ends up owning the file?
[15:54] <ubuntuaddicted> chiluk, no idea, it's a number. 116
[15:54] <ubuntuaddicted> chiluk, group is 126
[15:55] <chiluk> that tells me you are likely using nfsv3.
[15:55] <tgm4883> what user is 116 on the machine that is running transmission-daemon
[15:55] <ubuntuaddicted> tgm4883, how can I find that out? it's more or less a headless server
[15:55] <ubuntuaddicted> im logged in over ssh
[15:56] <tgm4883> ubuntuaddicted, 'cat passwd | grep 116'
[15:56] <chunkyhead> when i click on check updates, it tells me failed to download repos info. help
[15:57] <chiluk> chunkyhead, do you have any extra repos installed that are no longer available?
[15:57] <ladislaw> she_dyed: yes
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> chunkyhead: run:  sudo apt-get update     use http://paste.ubuntu.com to host the output
[15:57] <chunkyhead> chiluk, how do i check that
[15:57] <chiluk> chunkyhead, i guess the first thing would be to determine which repo is failing.
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> chunkyhead: the output of the command I gave will tell us what we needed
[15:58] <chiluk> chunkyhead, if you scroll up in update manager it should tell you which repo is failing.
[15:58] <chunkyhead> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5716316/ ActionParsnip
[15:59] <chunkyhead> chiluk, check pastbin http://paste.ubuntu.com/5716316/
[15:59] <she_dyed> ladislaw: ftp is one option
[15:59] <she_dyed> ladislaw: you might already have something similar installed
[16:00] <ladislaw> like?
[16:00] <chunkyhead> chiluk, ActionParsnip how to fix repos then?
[16:00] <she_dyed> your gui filemanager might be able to 'see' the other machine
[16:00] <she_dyed> and you can copy n paste or drag n drop
[16:00] <she_dyed> ladislaw: ^
[16:01] <ubuntuaddicted> tgm 116 = debian-transmission:x:116:126::/home/debian-transmission:/bin/false
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> chunkyhead: what is the output of:  grep -R distro /etc/apt/*
[16:01] <chiluk> so ubuntuaddicted if I were you I would create a debian-transmission group with the gid of 126 on your machine
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> ubuntuaddicted: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[16:01] <chunkyhead> ActionParsnip, permission denied, shall i run that in sudo?
[16:01] <chiluk> ubuntuaddicted, then add your user to debian-transmission group
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> chiluk: your user will have read access to the files (excepyt the gpg file, this is normal)
[16:03] <chiluk> ActionParsnip, I'll let you handle it, I never use transmission-daemon
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> chunkyhead: ^
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> chiluk: sorry, was wrong target
[16:04] <chunkyhead> ActionParsnip,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5716329/
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> chunkyhead: then you will need to run:  gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list   and swap every occurrence of "[distro]" to "precise"
[16:05] <B-ZaR> could someone help me or point me to a more suitable channel? I'm trying to  connect two wiimotes to my ubuntu 12.04 desktop using the xwiimote/hid-wiimote route. Both pair with the system nicely and one (either one, the one connected first) connects and works as expected, but the other just keeps blinking the LEDs. I've traced the problem using dmesg into "sysfs: cannot create duplicate filename '/class/power_supply/wiimote_battery'". The file seems to be ...
[16:05] <B-ZaR> ... created when the first wiimote is connected and prevents the second from being connected properly. Any ideas? Is this a bug or am I doing something wrong?
[16:06] <chunkyhead> ActionParsnip, can you tell me what exactly is wrong here so i understand waht exactly is it that i am doing
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> B-ZaR: I'd report a bug
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> chunkyhead: you have added some bad lines to the file and it is tripping up the package system
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> chunkyhead: its text find and replace, nothing technical at all
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> chunkyhead: I don't see what isn't to understand....
[16:07] <chunkyhead> no no
[16:07] <chunkyhead> i asked coz i dont remember messing around with sources.list
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> chunkyhead: find '[distro]' and change it for the word 'precise'
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> chunkyhead: well, something or someone has
[16:08] <ubuntuaddicted> chiluk, how do I make sure first that group 126 doesn't exist on the computer that I am mounting the NFS share to?
[16:08] <B-ZaR> ActionParsnip: ok
[16:08] <chunkyhead> i am the only one who uses this pc ActionParsnip yeah i did that saving and updating now let me try
[16:13] <_TryX_> hey
[16:14] <chunkyhead> solved the problem, one more thing when i type sudo shutdown now it gives me this error "disablling power mgmt.. plymouth:26742) WARNING: command line dbus-launch --autolanch=2234alotOfNumbers.....
[16:14] <ubuntuaddicted> chiluk, i added the group named "transmission" and made the group id 126. when I issue cat /etc/passwd | grep 126 nothing appears? do I need to restart the machine for it to show?
[16:15] <ubuntuaddicted> chiluk, i did it through the users and groups GUI
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> chunkyhead: does the system actually turn off though?
[16:16] <chunkyhead>  nope
[16:16] <chunkyhead> it's stuck there ActionParsnip
[16:16] <ubuntuaddicted> ActionParsnip, cat /etc/issue shows Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS \n \l
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> chunkyhead: have you looked online for what this may mean?
[16:16] <chunkyhead> forever unless i force restart ActionParsnip
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> ubuntuaddicted: sweet :)
[16:17] <alnkpa2> hey guys, I'd like to use a package in a PPA that isn't avalaible for the newest ubuntu version, I added the PPA via add-apt-repository. how do i do that?
[16:17] <chunkyhead> ActionParsnip, i didnt know what to google, :P
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> chunkyhead: the error you just pasted is a good start...no?
[16:17] <someoneelse_> Hello. I am using Life USB with Xubuntu, since my HDD was broken. The problem is, pendrive is 8GB big, but the system isn't using this and yells about lack of space when I am trying to apt-get upgrade. Can it be helped?
[16:17] <chunkyhead> yeah will try that thanks haha ActionParsnip
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> alnkpa2: do what, use the add-apt-repository command?
[16:17] <tgm4883> alnkpa2, are you saying that the PPA contains the version you want for the distro you want?
[16:18] <alnkpa2> tgm4883: no, it has the version, but not for the distro
[16:19] <alnkpa2> ActionParsnip: use the package that's not for my distro
[16:19] <PlastikSpork> I am unable to view my Windows shared drives on my network by clicking "Browse Network" and then "Windows Network" in Nautilus.   I am however able to access my windows shared drives by connecting to smb://192.168.1.3 or by mounting the drives permanently through fstab.
[16:19] <tgm4883> alnkpa2, thats not such a good idea usually
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> alnkpa2: do you mean for your release?
[16:20] <alnkpa2> tgm4883: i realize that but like to try
[16:20] <alnkpa2> ActionParsnip: yes
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> PlastikSpork: when you get access to the share, add the location as a bookmark
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> alnkpa2: there is a big difference
[16:21] <alnkpa2> ActionParsnip: sry
[16:21] <chunkyhead> no help on google at all buddy ActionParsnip
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> alnkpa2: the distribution is still Ubuntu, even if it is Precise, Quantal...whatever. Those are releases, a different distro would be Debian, Fedora, Mandriva, Gentoo etc
[16:21] <PlastikSpork> ActionParsnip I ll try that
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> chunkyhead: do you have the latest BIOS
[16:21] <alnkpa2> ActionParsnip: yes, sorry
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> alnkpa2: mixing debs between releases isn't advised, the package will probably install but the results may be weird (or ok)
[16:22] <chunkyhead> ActionParsnip, sorry not fond of flashing BIOS, have lost 2 computers thanks to that. :|
[16:22] <alnkpa2> ActionParsnip: i realize that, i want to try
[16:23] <tgm4883> alnkpa2, although I strongly suggest you don't do this, you would need to activate the repo for that specific release. Please note that this comes with the Oklahoma Warranty. If it breaks, you get to keep both pieces.
[16:23] <PlastikSpork> ActionParsnip:  Awesome!  Thank you very much... works great.... Now why am I not able to browse the network?
[16:23] <Monkey_b> hey guys... my server appears to have some type of malware on it, as my site is receiving complaints about a 'gakmail.htm' malware file in the web server, which ive tried to remove, and keeps resurfacing. i'm not sure whether this is malware sitting on the machine, or something else... any ideas what steps i can take to finding the culprit?
[16:23] <chunkyhead> and ActionParsnip this happened after i restored packages from my old 12.04 install using aptoncd, before that it was working fine
[16:23] <alnkpa2> tgm4883: what would break?
[16:24] <chiluk> ubuntuaddicted, sorry had to shower.
[16:24] <tgm4883> alnkpa2, depends on what you are attempting to install. I'm not going to guess what COULD break. I'm just saying that if anything does, you will be completely unsupported here
[16:24] <alnkpa2> alright
[16:24] <chiluk> ubuntuaddicted, /etc/passwd will only show you userid's
[16:24] <chiluk> cat /etc/group
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> PlastikSpork: no idea, I just use that method, much faster than clicking through the network
[16:25] <alnkpa2> to be verbose, I want to install glc from https://launchpad.net/%7Earand/+archive/ppa
[16:25] <chiluk> ubuntuaddicted, cat /etc/group | grep 126 and make sure your username is listed after the last colon
[16:26] <PlastikSpork> ActionParsnip:  thanks for that tip though works good.
[16:27] <chiluk> ubuntuaddicted, assuming your user is listed in group 126 then you will have to log out and log back in for the new group to take effect
[16:27] <ubuntuaddicted> chiluk, ok, i am doing something so can't log out at the moment. thanks for your help
[16:27] <chiluk> ubuntuaddicted, you are welcome I hope it works.
[16:28] <chiluk> ubuntuaddicted, basically you need to add your user to the group that the file gets created under
[16:28] <chiluk> ubuntuaddicted, then you should be gtg
[16:28] <Monkey_b> is there a way to find out what program created a file?
[16:29] <Monkey_b> something in my system is suspicious and i suspect either malware, or a exploit in the web server or one of the apps its serving
[16:29] <Monkey_b> but i cant be sure
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> Monkey_b: unless its logged (something like tripwire), then no
[16:29] <ladislaw> how would enable folder sharing through a terminal?
[16:29] <Monkey_b> ActionParsnip: if tripwire helps me find out i have no problem installing it
[16:29] <RageRiot> hello, I installed a lib and wish to remove it so I can install the latest release but I'm unsure exactly how. it is called libusb 1.0 so I tried apt-get remove libusb-1.0 but it want to remove alot of other libs as well. sorry noob at work but I gotta start some where :P
[16:29] <tgm4883> chiluk, well, depends on the group. He probably should map users properly
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> ladislaw: you can use /etc/samba/smb.conf to defnie samba shares
[16:30] <alnkpa2> tgm4883: can i find the dependencies before i installed that deprecated package?
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> Monkey_b: I believe it will be able to tell you, it will watch folders for changes and gererate alerts. Check it out first, make sure its going to fit the bill
[16:30] <chiluk> tgm4883, that is mapping them properly since it sounds like he's using nfsv3
[16:30] <RageRiot> btw I installed the lib via downloading, compileing and installing manually
[16:31] <chiluk> tgm4883, if you want to explain how to do it "properly" go right ahead, I figured he just wanted it to work.  That and this is not my day job.
[16:31] <tgm4883> chiluk, eh, perhaps. It depends on which system which users are on. The users probably don't match the UID's on both systems
[16:32] <chiluk> tgm4883, that's not going to matter since the file gets created under the transmission-daemon uid on the server, and gets saved to the nfs share.
[16:32] <chiluk> tgm4883, whatever man, it should work... that's what the guy wanted.
[16:33] <LostInSpace> Hi all - hoping someone can help my rather lost ass :)
[16:33] <tgm4883> chiluk, I still think that is a really bad way to do it
[16:34] <tgm4883> chiluk, security wise, just adding your user to some random group isn't very good
[16:34] <mrjoel> hi guys.  Anyone got an idea on this?  When using touchscreen input on 13.04, i lose focus and can't click on anything in the unity desktop.  If I set the onscreen  keyboard program to "doubleclick," it properly refocuses on the desktop and selects the action (opening, closing something, minimize etc), but only for that one action.
[16:34] <chiluk> tgm4883, It's nfsv3... if you want to do it right he'd have to implement some sort of universal user system on his network
[16:34] <chiluk> tgm4883, that's not going to happen.
[16:34] <auronandace> !13.04 | mrjoel
[16:34] <mrjoel> thanks
[16:34] <chiluk> tgm4883, what security hole is he really opening himself up to?
[16:35] <chiluk> mrjoel have you searched launchpad yet?
[16:36] <tgm4883> chiluk, he would then have access to anything that group also had access to
[16:36] <LostInSpace> I am actually a total newb to Ubuntu. One of my companies now ex employees put it on a work computer and my job is to figure it out and get in to the files he put on the system. I've changed the pass but now when i attempt to log in it loops around. When going to the prompts i get "signature not found in user keyring perhaps try the interactive encryptfs-mount-private" but i cant find any decisive assistance with this error online
[16:36] <MestreLion> Can anyone help me with dbus-send ? I'm trying to use PackageKit... I have a working snippet in python that works, but a similar one using dbus-send does not:  http://sprunge.us/EbAb?bash  help please?
[16:36] <chiluk> tgm4883, which is fine because he's on his NFS server which is where transmission saves it's files.
[16:37] <chiluk> and he wants access to everything that transmissions saves on his nfs server.
[16:37] <tgm4883> LostInSpace, bad news, you can't get it. Looks like it's encrypted
[16:37] <LostInSpace> I was worried that i was going to hit a brick wall on this I have to say
[16:38] <MestreLion> here is also a dbus-monitor result, thy look very similar: http://sprunge.us/LVLf?bash
[16:39] <mrjoel> chiluk, closest bug i could find was https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1099289
[16:39] <tgm4883> chiluk, I still don't think that is fine. It doesn't matter what transmission is doing at this point. If it's marking the files as owned by the transmission group (id 126), but the NFS server has www-data as id 126, he now has access to everything that the www-data group does
[16:39] <Ari-Yang> I have a question, how do I accurately test my frame rate? I heard that you can't really test it with glxgears....
[16:39] <MestreLion> can anyone please sppt why python works but dbus-send does not?
[16:39] <Ari-Yang> I'm ubuntu 12.10
[16:39] <MestreLion> Ari-Yang: frame rate is very application-dependent... it is better to benchmark it in the game/app you want to test
[16:40] <Ari-Yang> what do you mean by 'benchmark'?
[16:40] <chiluk> tgm4883, true.. i'm assuming ubuntuaddicted didn't do anything stupid like just add himself to the www-data group.  since he mentioned that the uid and gid's didn't resolve to anything.
[16:40] <virus> u mark the bench
[16:40] <Ari-Yang> if you mean by using the application's fps test, I don't really have one....
[16:40] <MestreLion> a performance test... isn't what you're looking for?
[16:40] <ubuntuaddicted> chiluk, whahhh?
[16:40] <chiluk> tgm4883, which would mean that that gid is not in use on the server.
[16:40] <chiluk> ubuntuaddicted, read the back chat between me and tgm4883
[16:40] <MestreLion> Ari-Yang: so what exactly you want to measure?
[16:40] <tgm4883> chiluk, ah that is true, I forgot he said that the GID didn't map to anything
[16:41] <chiluk> tgm4883, no worries man.. you caught me yesterday
[16:41] <Ari-Yang> would running lets say a video and checking the system monitor (processes) work?
[16:41] <tony_lech> Hey guys, in 12.10 I have to enter more than one "Additional DNS servers" in my connection's IPv4 settings. What character do I use to separate multiple in that textbox?
[16:41] <Ari-Yang> @ MestreLion I'd like to check my fps while playing a 10-bit video
[16:41] <ubuntuaddicted> tgm4883, chiluk the only group 126 is the transmission one I created
[16:42] <chiluk> ubuntuaddicted, cool that's what tgm4883 feared was not the case.
[16:42] <MestreLion> Ari-Yang: use the player's fps test, if any
[16:42] <chiluk> ubuntuaddicted, you should be fine...
[16:42] <she_dyed> Ari-Yang: am not sure if system monitor gives fps
[16:42] <Ari-Yang> but it doesn't have one...
[16:42] <MestreLion> Ari-Yang: so how can you measure it?
[16:43] <Ari-Yang> I'm not sure, was hoping there was another way but it doesn't look like there is
[16:43] <MestreLion> how would it be? there is no such thing as a "system fps"
[16:43] <she_dyed> what about glxgears Ari-Yang
[16:43] <virus> holo
[16:43] <Ari-Yang> @ she_dyed I heard that isn't really accurate I don't think
[16:44] <she_dyed> yeh but its only effective for comapring against glxgears
[16:44] <she_dyed> lol
[16:44] <MestreLion> she_dyed: that would measure glxhgears's fps, not the "system's" or his 10-bit video's
[16:44] <she_dyed> yes
[16:44] <chiluk> Ari-Yang, you can install glx-spheres from a ppa if you'd prefer that.
[16:45] <Ari-Yang> lets say I get lag on a 10-bit video in fullscreen.... any solutions of fixing that?
[16:45] <MestreLion> Ari-Yang: even if it *was* accurate, it would be completely unrelated to your video playback
[16:45] <Ari-Yang> *nod*
[16:45] <she_dyed> right, onec the clip is loaded, thats it
[16:45] <MestreLion> each player has its own fps, depending on the odec it uses, etc
[16:45] <Ari-Yang> oh, and back on windows 7, I was able to play 10-bit encodes and not get lag in fullscreen, but on ubuntu I do
[16:46] <Ari-Yang> why is that?
[16:46] <she_dyed> different drivers
[16:46] <Ari-Yang> is there a certain setting I have to have enabled/disabled?
[16:46] <Ari-Yang> atm I'm using the open source drivers...
[16:46] <MestreLion> it can be several reasons.... different drivers, different desktop, different player
[16:47] <anonymous> hi
[16:47] <Ari-Yang> I'm not using the proprietary drivers (fglrx) because I get loads of tearing...
[16:47] <Ari-Yang> and I'm not sure if it's something I have to do in my xorg.conf (which doesn't look like I even have one)...
[16:47] <Guest861> im in anonimous legion
[16:47] <MestreLion> Ari-Yang:  so you can try a different driver, or a different player, or different codecs, or a different desktop (unity 2d, for example)
[16:47] <chiluk> Ari-Yang, if you get tearing, have you tried turning on v-sync in the fglrx drivers. *(chiluk is not a fan of amd)
[16:47] <Guest861> fukk
[16:47] <Ari-Yang> atm I'm on cinnamon classic
[16:48] <Ari-Yang> @ chiluk yeah vsync doesn't even work
[16:48] <Ari-Yang> even when enabled
[16:48] <Ari-Yang> afaik 12.10 doesn't have unity 2d
[16:48] <MestreLion> try different players then
[16:48] <Ari-Yang> yeah I tried that, didn't work =/
[16:48] <MestreLion> sometimes VLC can work better than totem for a given media type
[16:48] <chiluk> Ari-Yang, welcome to the world of closed source drivers on an open source OS.. I'll probably get flamed, but I have loved my Nvidia card with vdpau.
[16:49] <Ari-Yang> no, vlc can't even play the video lol
[16:49] <Ari-Yang> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=vuUP6tdx
[16:49] <she_dyed> dont run x, mplayer on framebuffer
[16:49] <Ari-Yang> my opengl renderer ^
[16:49] <chiluk> Ari-Yang, amd has something similar.  I think it's called va-api
[16:49] <MestreLion> but, whatever you do, there is little point trying different settings if you don't have a consistent way of *measuring* it
[16:49] <virus> yea
[16:49] <virus> banshee is good
[16:49] <chiluk> Ari-Yang, you might want to google for va-api 12.10.
[16:49] <virus> try it
[16:49] <Ari-Yang> va-api? a driver?
[16:50] <chiluk> Ari-Yang, va-api is a way of offloading the video decoding onto the graphics card.
[16:50] <Ari-Yang> even when using an open source driver?
[16:50] <chiluk> Ari-Yang, you will need the fglrx drivers,
[16:50] <Ari-Yang> interesting...
[16:51] <Ari-Yang> but wait
[16:51] <chiluk> Ari-Yang, as I said I don't have much experience with AMD... I've sort of avoided them ever since vdpau came out for nvidia
[16:51] <chiluk> Ari-Yang, is there more?
[16:51] <MestreLion> there is a tear-free option in modern fglrx (post-12.6)
[16:51] <chiluk> Ari-Yang, like maybe a free offer?
[16:51] <Ari-Yang> isn't the point of using the fglrx drivers is to use the graphics card?
[16:51] <MestreLion> err.. yes
[16:51] <Ari-Yang> so how come I need va-api?
[16:52] <chiluk> Ari-Yang, yes the fglrx drivers enable things like va-api, but you need to tell the decoding application to use va-api
[16:52] <Ari-Yang> I mean I get loads of tearing even when I enable vsync in catalyst control center
[16:52] <MestreLion> va-api uses more of your GPU
[16:52] <chiluk> Ari-Yang, think of it like directx for videos
[16:52] <Ari-Yang> ah I see
[16:52] <servantes> Hi guys, Looking for some help. Just did a fresh install after switching drives because I figured I would start anew.
[16:52] <Ari-Yang> current opengl info http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=HAL4cWji
[16:53] <servantes> I have two issues. The first being that software-center does not work. It crashes. It loads for a second then disappears and crashes. I have a pastebin of the whole error it gives when launched from console
[16:53] <servantes> Software-center isnt a big issue for me, as I dont really use it. I stick to terminal software for that stuff, dpkg and apt mainly. But being its one of the main focal points of the distro, it should be working
[16:54] <Ari-Yang> @ chiluk seeign soe posts saying to just install vaninfo form software center
[16:54] <servantes> Here is the error software-center gives, http://pastebin.com/eajDx7eD
[16:54] <chiluk> Ari-Yang, there you go... good luck.. you are now beyond me.
[16:54] <Ari-Yang> lol okay
[16:54] <Ari-Yang> okay so va-api doesn't work with open source drivers
[16:54] <Ari-Yang> only with fglrx
[16:55] <servantes> Secondly, my other issue is with google-chrome. Now I have installed chrome via the official package hundreds of time in linux, in debian, arch, ubuntu, etc and have never had an issue
[16:55] <chiluk> Ari-Yang, hopefully you get va-api working ... keep in mind you may have to use a particular program that supports it
[16:55] <servantes> Well, today I try to install it. And dpkg and gdebi both complain of dependcy issues which are unresolvable
[16:55] <Ari-Yang> yeah
[16:55] <chiluk> servantes, google the error for chrome google fucked up with recent releases
[16:55] <tgm4883> servantes, 13.04 isn't supported in this channel
[16:55] <servantes> Chrome says it needs libudev0, which is unresolvable
[16:56] <h00k> !language | chiluk
[16:56] <servantes> tgm4883, i dont care if it or isnt. A lot of things can be fixed just by talking to users of the distro as a whole
[16:56] <chiluk> servantes, google is your friend http://www.webupd8.org/2013/04/fix-google-chrome-cant-be-installed-in.html
[16:56] <servantes> God, this reminds why I cant stand this channel...
[16:56] <tgm4883> !13.04 | servantes
[16:57] <chiluk> servantes, I hope that helps man.
[16:57] <h00k> servantes: there's also the forums and askubuntu if you're not a fan of the channel
[16:57] <servantes> ya, I havent googled it myself
[16:57] <servantes> chiluk, thx though
[16:57] <chiluk> servantes, no prob... good luck.
[16:57] <servantes> h00k, I prefer live support. I am well aware of ubuntus other support services. Ive been using it since badger
[16:59] <xuanfeng> hello
[16:59] <xuanfeng> chinaz
[17:00] <Ari-Yang> there's no wa of changing the opengl vendor string to something "better", is there?
[17:00] <h00k> !cn | xuanfeng
[17:00] <xuanfeng> 不要
[17:01] <xuanfeng> cn不行 里面没有讲技术性的东西，，虽然我不懂英文 但是我会努力学习的
[17:01] <genii-around> Hm.
[17:01] <honey> hello
[17:01] <honey> test
[17:02] <ThinkT510> !test | honey
[17:02] <honey> well.. lol
[17:02] <Ari-Yang> currently, my opengl vendor string is x.org
[17:02] <Devlin> herro
[17:03] <Phryq> hey
[17:03] <Devlin> I'm having the weirdest little problem with ubuntu
[17:04] <Devlin> it is being slow to display graphics on screen, like the refresh is slow enough to watch draw down the screen like in firefox and hexchat
[17:04] <Phryq> it's invading your dreams and making you smell anchovies from the future?
[17:04] <Devlin> I'm trying to figure it out
[17:04] <Devlin> but no dice
[17:04] <Phryq> Oh, less weird than I had assumed
[17:04] <honey> impacts me.
[17:04] <cuddylier> Hi, I'm having an issue with vhosts for apache. Do I just define my vhosts in the sites-available directory or do I need to in the httpd.conf file as well?
[17:05] <Devlin> i've tried using the O/S driver(nouveau) and the binary nvidia driver and neither has any effect
[17:05] <bluesun_> set
[17:06] <Devlin> the card is a GeForce GT430
[17:06] <MestreLion> Ari-Yang: why would you want to change vendor string?
[17:08] <Phryq> hey, if a program is not responding in ubuntu, how do I force it to close?
[17:08] <Phryq> anything like a task manager?
[17:08] <MestreLion> Phryq: system monitor?
[17:08] <Devlin> Phryq, alt+f2
[17:08] <Devlin> gnome-system-monitor
[17:08] <Devlin> right-click offending application, kill
[17:08] <bluesun_> set
[17:09] <MestreLion> Devlin: <super> monitor <enter> is easier
[17:09] <Devlin> oh?
[17:09] <MestreLion> and does not require to remember package or executable names
[17:09] <Phryq> system monitor worked; thanks
[17:10] <MestreLion> Devlin: I mean using the dash menu instead of alt+f2 to find apps
[17:10] <Devlin> yeah
[17:10] <WoNG> wt r yous talkin about
[17:10] <gh_luk> Hi! I have a few Computers that I would like to set up with Lubuntu. There is an Ethernet Network, however, the internet is very slow. most of the time<10kB/s. I would like a easy solution, that apt packets are only downloaded once and stored e.g. on a network drive. If the same packet is needed by an other client, the packet is taken from there. I would like, that updates are still supplied...
[17:10] <gh_luk> ...automatically and that the synaptics packet manager can still be used. Do you know a solution to this problem? I was reading https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Offline. can you recommend one of the described solutions for me?
[17:11] <tgm4883> gh_luk, you want squid-deb-proxy and squid-deb-proxy-client
[17:11] <cuddylier> When I try to reload apache2 I just get http://paste.ubuntu.com/5716494/ Why is it saying there are no virtual hosts? Can anyone help?
[17:11] <cuddylier> I have other sites in the sites-available folder
[17:12] <Ari-Yang> @ MestreLion maybe because x.org isn't one of the best?
[17:12] <WoNG> so
[17:13] <ThinkT510> Ari-Yang: what other option do you have? wayland? mir?
[17:13] <hillybilly> so
[17:14] <hillybilly> sudo
[17:14] <MestreLion> Ari-Yang: maybe, but it's the one that provides the X system all your desktop is built upon
[17:14] <Ari-Yang> @ ThinkT510 now that you put it that way....... the vendor string is x.org, so that means that it's reading xorg.conf? if it is, how come I can't find my xorg.conf file?
[17:14] <Ari-Yang> brb
[17:14] <hillybilly> wt r u using
[17:15] <MestreLion> Ari-Yang: the string merely reflects the backend your driver uses. chaning the scting alone is pointless
[17:15] <adamk> Ari-Yang: The vendor string has nothing to do with xorg.conf.
[17:15] <MestreLion> Ari-Yang: the string merely reflects the backend your driver uses. changing the string alone is pointless
[17:15] <MestreLion> and most video drivers now can work without a xorg.conf (although they do read it if it exists)
[17:17] <hillybilly> any1 need hhelp
[17:17] <MestreLion> so if you want to use a graphics backend in Linux other than X, your current options are... none. But the development team of Wayland and Mir are accepting volunteers
[17:17] <lalondong> Guys
[17:17] <lalondong> i'm running Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[17:18] <lalondong> I have only 2 gb for RAM
[17:18] <toddaaro> anyone around who can help with USB keyboard problems? My bios has no trouble detecting them but my Ubuntu installer won't, so I'm completely stuck
[17:18] <lalondong> i've tried everything to slow it down and make my Ubuntu faster.. but still nothings much are changed..
[17:18] <MestreLion> lalondong: what are you using to measure performance?
[17:19] <Gnea> I'm running a dual-display with an nvidia card to a DVI monitor and HDMI.  I used the nvidia-settings to set it so that there is a separate X server on both displays.  It works, but the HDMI display screen blanks after only a few seconds.  How can I fix that so that it screen blanks after 20 minutes of inactivity?
[17:19] <lalondong> How to do that?
[17:19] <Gnea> lalondong: replace unity with something else
[17:19] <lalondong> changing the desktop environment
[17:19] <MestreLion> lalondong: you said it was slow. if you want to improve it, first you must have a consistent way of measing it, so you can compare results
[17:19] <lalondong> ?
[17:20] <Gnea> yes
[17:20] <Gnea> lalondong: like LXDE, E17 or even KDE
[17:20] <hillybilly> gnome
[17:20] <Gnea> gnome is another resource hog
[17:20] <Gnea> I wouldn't trust it
[17:20] <hillybilly> gnome is good
[17:21] <Gnea> not really
[17:21] <lalondong> but that would automaticly update it right? i mean what type of desktop environment that actually faster than Unity?
[17:21] <Gnea> lalondong: just about any, really
[17:21] <MestreLion> Gnea: changing DE is a major operating for a new user... please don't suggest other DEs besides the default one unless you're willing to assist the user in the whole process of changing it
[17:21] <Gnea> lalondong: unity and gnome are resource hogs... they were programmed for easy functionality, not to run on slow systems
[17:21] <lalondong> The faster for my stupid 2 gb ram and looks pretty cool..?
[17:21] <hillybilly> u have to write in commands
[17:22] <Gnea> MestreLion: settle down
[17:22] <gh_luk> tgm4883, thank you! Using a proxy with cache will have even more advantages for my environment
[17:22] <Gnea> lalondong: I would suggest LXDE or Enlightenment
[17:22] <hillybilly> and download apt
[17:22] <tgm4883> gh_luk, yw
[17:22] <Gnea> !lxde
[17:22] <MestreLion> lalondong: 2GB is more than enough to run Unity fine, your bottleneck is not memory
[17:22] <Gnea> lalondong: what video card do you have?
[17:22] <lalondong> but it took all of my memory..
[17:23] <lalondong> Intel HD 3000
[17:23] <MestreLion> lalondong: "took all your memory" ? Out of the box Ubuntu does not occupy more than 500MB
[17:24] <MestreLion> 64-bit may use more
[17:24] <hillybilly> i downloaded players and all accesories for ubuntu on terminal
[17:24] <cuddylier> When I try to reload apache2 I just get http://paste.ubuntu.com/5716494/ Why is it saying there are no virtual hosts? Can anyone help? I have other sites in the sites-available folder.
[17:24] <Gnea> lalondong: what tool did you use to measure that unity took all of the memory?
[17:24] <lalondong> System monitor
[17:24] <lalondong> and it shows 900 mb of 1.8 gb
[17:25] <MestreLion> lalondong: and after a clean reboot, how much memomry does system monitor shows?
[17:25] <Gnea> well that's 900, not 1.8
[17:25] <timrc> http://www.openstack.org/home/Video/ - sabdfl just took the stage
[17:25] <Gnea> still, it's a lot just to display a basic GUI
[17:25] <lalondong> 500 i guess,
[17:25]  * tgm4883 wonders who things unity is a "basic ui"
[17:25] <hillybilly> mines 170 gb and im still downloading
[17:26] <MestreLion> lalondong: so it only uses something between 25 and 50% of your RAM... not bad
[17:26] <hillybilly> more stuff and still have more room
[17:26] <MestreLion> lalondong: so ram doesn't look like the culprit
[17:26] <hillybilly> not at all
[17:26] <Gnea> lalondong: what about cpu usage?
[17:27] <hillybilly> i have trouble with deb in terminal
[17:27] <MestreLion> besides, Ubuntu (actually, the Linux kernel) adjusts its memory usage according to the available memory... the idea is that idle memory is wasted memory... so if you hve lots of ram, Ubuntu will put that ram to good use
[17:27] <lalondong> around 20 to 40 %
[17:28] <MestreLion> For example, I have 16GB... and after a clean reboot my usage is around 1.2GB
[17:28] <Gnea> tgm4883: it's meant to be presented as 'basic' to someone that isn't familiar with using linux
[17:28] <tgm4883> Gnea, I completely disagree. Please don't confuse "default" with "basic"
[17:28] <Gnea> Yes, and it's possible to change how the linux kernel adjusts and uses available memory
[17:28] <MestreLion> Gnea: "basic" in ease of use, surely *not* basic in resource usage... actually, usually the higher  lever an UI is, the more resources it consumes
[17:29] <Gnea> tgm4883: the question is, will your disagreement help the discussion and solve the problem?
[17:29] <toddaaro> anyone have ideas on "keyboard not working in installer"? legacy USB is enabled, I do not have a PS/2 port
[17:29] <MestreLion> Unity tries to be a very user friendly UI, which means it will also be on top of ystem resources compared to other DEs
[17:29] <tgm4883> Gnea, whatever
[17:29] <hillybilly> any1 no how to use deb in terminal
[17:29] <Gnea> MestreLion: that's a given
[17:29] <toddaaro> I would prefer a solution other than "buy a new motherboard with PS/2" but that is the only idea I've been able to find
[17:30] <Gnea> tgm4883: right. when you have something useful to add, feel free to do so.
[17:30] <tgm4883> Gnea, what is the questions
[17:30] <Gnea> tgm4883: you've been here long enough, scrollback and see what lalondong is talking about
[17:30] <rasak> ddddddddddddddddddddddd
[17:31] <braiam> toddaaro, have you tried without the legacy usb setting?
[17:31] <braiam> !deb | hillybilly
[17:31] <AmericanToast> Herro! i am having a problem installing wine any one know what i should do? wine1.4-amd64: PreDepends: dpkg (>= 1.14.12ubuntu3) but 1.16.7ubuntu6 is to be installed
[17:31] <AmericanToast>                Depends: libc6 (>= 2.14) but 2.15-0ubuntu20 is to be installed
[17:31] <AmericanToast>                Depends: libgcc1 (>= 1:4.1.1) but 1:4.7.2-2ubuntu1 is to be installed
[17:31] <AmericanToast>                Depends: libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.16.0) but 2.34.1-1ubuntu1 is to be installed
[17:31] <AmericanToast>                Depends: libgphoto2-2 (>= 2.4.10.1) but 2.4.14-2 is to be installed
[17:31] <AmericanToast>                Depends: libgphoto2-port0 (>= 2.4.10.1) but 2.4.14-2 is to be installed
[17:31] <AmericanToast>                Depends: liblcms1 (>= 1.15-1) but 1.19.dfsg-1.1ubuntu2 is to be installed
[17:31] <FloodBot1> AmericanToast: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:31] <MestreLion> toddaaro: have you run some of the probing tools like dmesg and lsusb, just to see if the keyboard is detexted?
[17:31] <Gnea> lalondong: well, you could install lubuntu-desktop and see what happens - it wouldn't replace unity, but provide a different option to choose from when you login
[17:31] <toddaaro> MestreLion: I can't get any keyboard to work, so no
[17:32] <toddaaro> braiam: testing now, that is something I should have tried
[17:32] <hillybilly> any1 no how to use deb in terminal
[17:32] <Gnea> !repeat | hillybilly
[17:32] <tgm4883> Gnea, "<lalondong> i've tried everything to slow it down and make my Ubuntu faster.. but still nothings much are changed.." that isn't a question
[17:32] <lalondong> still installing.
[17:32] <Gnea> tgm4883: the question is easily inferred.
[17:33] <MestreLion> toddaaro: disabling legacy is an option, but that usually is not required... I have a USB keyboard and legacy is on, and it works fine
[17:33] <Gnea> tgm4883: also, 'everything' is subjective.
[17:33] <tgm4883> Gnea, yea, but it doesn't appear anyone asked him what his specs were (CPU/RAM/Video Card(proprietary drivers?))
[17:33] <Gnea> tgm4883: there wasn't much of a need, he provided most of those details. I actually did ask about video card, but never got a response.
[17:33] <MestreLion> toddaaro: do you have any other computer in LAN that you could use to connect to that and try some diagnosing options?
[17:34] <MestreLion> Gnea: not true. lalondong said "Intel HD 3000"
[17:34] <toddaaro> MestreLion: looks like legacy setting change doesn't do anything, and yes, I could connect with something else
[17:34] <tgm4883> Gnea, so we just assume that unity is slow now?
[17:34] <hillybilly> u no how u got apt-get on terminal there is also another one called  deb  which also allows u to download stuff but more
[17:34] <Gnea> MestreLion: ah good point, my bad
[17:34] <toddaaro> MestreLion: I'm stuck at "Installer boot menu", does that accept remote connections?
[17:34] <lalondong> ehh, i did answer it...  scrollback again.
[17:34] <Gnea> lalondong: yeah, sorry
[17:34] <lalondong> it's Intel HD 3000
[17:34] <Gnea> lalondong: do you happen to know what driver you're using for the intel hd?
[17:34] <MestreLion> toddaaro: the text or the GUI one?
[17:35] <Gnea> hillybilly: that question really doesn't make any sense... apt-get is used to download and install .deb files
[17:35] <toddaaro> MestreLion: text I assume?, using the 12.10 server boot.img.gz file on a usb stick, can't get past the first screen
[17:36] <tryfan> going nuts with pulseaudio.  trying to send audio to another machine from xubuntu 12.10.  running paman as root connects to the remote server.  doesn't work for normal user.  pa is in system daemon mode
[17:36] <lalondong> i don't know.. but do i still have to install the driver as well?
[17:37] <Myrtti> AmericanToast: please paste your error to pastebin.
[17:37] <Gnea> tryfan: make sure that the normal user has proper permission to access pulse and sound devices
[17:37] <hillybilly> gnea: yea but u make ur own download to learn how to write deb then make ur own download
[17:37] <Gnea> hillybilly: make my own download?
[17:37] <tryfan> Gnea: through groups?  I've added the normal user to the pulse-access group
[17:37] <MestreLion> toddaaro: and no, installer itself does not accept remote (not that I know of). Some options would be: try the "alternate installer" image, or a network boot install (so you can install remotely), or, just as a test, try a different keyboard (from another vendor, if yours is not supported/recognized)
[17:37] <Gnea> tryfan: okay, did you make sure to logout then login again after?
[17:37] <tryfan> yup
[17:37] <tryfan> Gnea: yup
[17:38] <Gnea> tryfan: are you following any sort of tutorial?
[17:38] <AmericanToast> how do i get to paste bin?
[17:38] <Gnea> !pastebin
[17:38] <toddaaro> MestreLion: ok, I'll give the "alternate installer" image a try, I've tried two keyboards on numerious ports with no luck
[17:38] <AmericanToast> !pastebin
[17:38] <AmericanToast> o.o
[17:39] <Gnea> AmericanToast: no, read what ubottu said
[17:39] <AmericanToast> ty
[17:39] <MestreLion> toddaaro: also, are you sure it's the keyboard that is not working? depeing on your install choices, maybe the installer froze
[17:39] <tryfan> Gnea: well this all worked before, but dhcp got allscrewed up and my IPs changed at the office.  so the remote pulseaudio server was at a different IP and I changed the IP in default-server in /etc/pulse/client.conf and it still isn't working
[17:39] <AmericanToast> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5716563/
[17:39] <Sta1ker> can somebody point me to a good server mapping tutorial?
[17:40] <toddaaro> MestreLion: I suppose that could be it, I haven't made any choices though
[17:40] <MestreLion> toddaaro: for example, I've once experienced it with an unsopported CD-ROM... it froze the installer, nothing to do with keboard
[17:40] <toddaaro> MestreLion: good to keep in mind, any particular strategy for checking this other than unplugging things?
[17:40] <hillybilly> gnea:example if i download cmatrix ,,,,,,,,,,,i can make a download called hobo ,,,using deb,,,,,,,,then i can type in apt-get install hobo
[17:41] <Gnea> tryfan: what a pain... have you been able to confirm that it's actually trying to contact the new IP?
[17:41] <MestreLion> toddaaro: try other install options... instead of media on USB, try CD-ROM (if any), or "burn" the image to cd/usb in a different way (DD, in a partition, or using USB Creator)
[17:41] <Gnea> hillybilly: oh, re-working the cmatrix .deb file to be called hobo.deb ?
[17:41] <toddaaro> MestreLion: ok, I'll futz around and see what happens, thanks for the advice
[17:42] <hillybilly> ur welcom anytime
[17:42] <MestreLion> hillybilly: you should first learn a bit more about repositories. apt-get deals with repositories, not direct .deb downloads
[17:43] <hillybilly> mestrelion: i no more of the more advanced stuff im new to terminal
[17:43] <MestreLion> hillybilly:  open your menu, type "help", and browse topics about software install, software sources, .deb, etc
[17:43] <hillybilly> i did
[17:43] <_irenicus09> hello I had a question...is it possible to share bandwith between mutiple interfaces like wired & wifi?
[17:43] <MestreLion> if you're new to the terminal it's very hard to believe you know the "more advanced stuff"
[17:44] <MestreLion> since most "advanced stuff" are done in terminal
[17:44] <_irenicus09> what I mean is can wifi and wired interfaces be merged so as to increase my dl & ul speed?
[17:44] <tryfan> Gnea: I'm honestly not sure, I just tried to use mpg321 to play audio as root, but that didn't work...I thought it might have been a root/normal user issue
[17:45] <AmericanToast> good afternoon i have had a problem downloading wine could any one help me?
[17:45] <Gnea> tryfan: can a regular user use mpg321?
[17:45] <hillybilly> mestrelion: i mean the download bit but yea as i said more advanced binary,python,backtrack
[17:45] <MestreLion> hillybilly: also, learn the difference between dpkg and apt-get
[17:45] <tryfan> Gnea: sure, as long as they can access /dev/dsp afaik
[17:45] <tryfan> Gnea: well that's pre sound daemons as well
[17:45] <wilee-nilee> !wine | AmericanToast
[17:46] <Gnea> tryfan: well /dev/dsp is OSS, and Ubuntu uses ALSA these days, and AFAIK, the latest Ubuntu doesn't provide OSS support anymore, so /dev/dsp might be out of the question
[17:46] <AmericanToast> ty
[17:46] <bazhang> hillybilly, are you using backtrack
[17:46] <wilee-nilee> AmericanToast, Playonlinux seems a little easier to setup
[17:46] <hillybilly> mestrelion: i already no them
[17:46] <hillybilly> yea
[17:46] <stevie_man> I am trying to get iptables running on Ubuntu 12.04 64 bit (kernel 2.6.32-042stab068.8) and when I do a ./iptables.sh I get the following error: iptables v1.4.12: can't initialize iptables table `nat': Table does not exist (do you need to insmod?) Perhaps iptables or your kernel needs to be upgraded.
[17:46] <Gnea> tryfan: so you may need to do something like this:  mpg321 -o alsa file.mp3
[17:46] <bazhang> hillybilly, using backtrack? Yes?
[17:47] <MestreLion> hillybilly: apt-get does not download arbitrary .debs. It downloads only from registered software sources. and a .deb is not "a download", it is an install package. And a local can be installed by dpkg, not apt-get
[17:47] <hillybilly> bazhang yea
[17:47] <bazhang> hillybilly, thats NOT supported here
[17:47] <stevie_man> I beleive this is because nf_nat is not loaded
[17:47] <bazhang> !backtrack | hillybilly
[17:48] <stevie_man> when I try to modprobe nf_nat I get WARNING: Deprecated config file /etc/modprobe.conf, all config files belong into /etc/modprobe.d/.
[17:48] <stevie_man> FATAL: Module nf_nat not found.
[17:48] <hillybilly> bazang:wt
[17:48] <stevie_man> Can someone help me get IPTables up and running?
[17:48] <MestreLion> hillybilly: and no, you do not know the difference. If you did, you would say things like "i can make a download called hobo ,,,using deb,,,,,,,,then i can type in apt-get install hobo"
[17:48] <bazhang> hillybilly, dont ask for backtrack support here
[17:48] <hillybilly> im not
[17:49] <tryfan> Gnea: hm, it plays now, but no audio
[17:49] <MestreLion> hillybilly: you would NOT say such thing, I mean... because that sentence is nonsense
[17:49] <hillybilly> i thought u more advanced in ubuntu
[17:49] <Gnea> tryfan: open alsamixer in a new terminal
[17:49] <bazhang> hillybilly, /j #backtrack-linux
[17:49] <hillybilly> mestrelion: i mea make ur own deb file
[17:49] <tryfan> Gnea: ok
[17:50] <MestreLion> hillybilly: a deb file is not "a download". And apt-get install does NOT install arbitrary .debs!
[17:50]  * Gnea hands MestreLion a valium
[17:51] <bazhang> MestreLion, he's running backtrack, its not supporte dhere
[17:51] <MestreLion> hillybilly: I suggest you read more amout apt and dpkg, their differences, and what a repository / software source is before saying nonsense
[17:51] <Gnea> !backtrack | hillybilly
[17:51] <MestreLion> bazhang: his misconceptions are deeper than Ubuntu/Backtrack differences
[17:51] <tryfan> Gnea: ok,the alsamixer is showing the local soundcard
[17:51] <bazhang> MestreLion, lets move on please
[17:52] <Gnea> tryfan: okay, check the levels and make sure that the appropriate ones are turned up (like master and pcm)
[17:52] <MestreLion> bazhang: I just mean that the fact that he is using Backtrack is irrelevant to his issues
[17:52] <Gnea> tryfan: make sure they're not muted, too
[17:53] <tryfan> Gnea: I started hearing it out the speakers on the local machine, it's not sending the audio to the remote
[17:54] <MestreLion> hillybilly: if you want to make .deb files, read a good packaging guide. and read man debuild. And ask for support in #debian-mentors. But in that order ;)
[17:55] <Sta1ker> ls
[17:57] <Gnea> tryfan: then you'll need to look at how pulseaudio is trying to send data
[17:57] <tryfan> Gnea: it worked before just by defining default-server in /etc/pulse/client.conf...that should do it system wide
[18:08] <j2daosh> hey all. i need some csh help. #csh is empty so I don't know where to go to ask
[18:08] <j2daosh> any ideas?
[18:13] <wilee-nilee> j2daosh, If t s ubuntu related this is the place, there is also ##linux
[18:13] <wilee-nilee> it is*
[18:15] <j2daosh> thank you, I will try there
[18:19] <sonofzeus> wanna buy a secure router any suggestions?
[18:20] <bazhang> ##hardware sonofzeus
[18:21] <sonofzeus> nvm bye
[18:22] <dunnoman> I'm having problems getting adb to work with my ubuntu12.10.  I have pasted all my steps and responses.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5716675/
[18:24] <izanagisan> hi all. Just wondering: is there any channel dedicated exclusively to UbuntuServer edition?
[18:24] <bazhang> #ubuntu-server izanagisan
[18:24] <ThatOneRoadie> #ubuntu-server
[18:25] <ThatOneRoadie> damn, ninja'd :P
[18:25] <izanagisan> thanks guys : )
[18:27] <SonikkuAmerica> dunnoman: Do you have USB debugging enabled on your Android device?
[18:27] <dunnoman> SonikkuAmerica: yes
[18:27] <dunnoman> i'm to the point of thinking it could be a bad usb cord? lol
[18:27] <wilee-nilee> dunnoman, What android release and what are you looking to do?
[18:28] <SonikkuAmerica> No, that doesn't seem to be the case... [ lsusb ] returned your device, did it not?
[18:30] <Jpmh> up until todays update and re-boot when I right clicked on the speaker in the pannel I got the pulse audio volume control - now I get some STRANGE volume comntrol - how do I set this back to pulseaudio
[18:31] <dunnoman> wilee-nilee: 4.0.4 trying to go to jellybean OTA 4.1.2. upgrade via adb since i don't have an ext-sd card
[18:32] <wilee-nilee> dunnoman, Your not rooted?
[18:32] <gpled> if i need the latest "curl dev library"  how do i know what the package name is, so i can apt-get install ?
[18:32] <dunnoman> SonikkuAmerica: sure did which is confusing.  I had read some post about flaky cables not working with adb, but will still work with mass storage/charging
[18:33] <dunnoman> wilee-nilee: no (work phone)
[18:33] <SonikkuAmerica> Jpmh: What did it look like?
[18:33] <she_dyed> gpled use apt-cache search and the name libcurl
[18:33] <wilee-nilee> dunnoman, Most androids will upgrade from the device, you can load it from the fastboot recovery I believe
[18:33] <gpled> she_dyed: thanks
[18:34] <she_dyed> gpled: yw
[18:34] <Jpmh> SonikkuAmerica: what did what look like - the new thibg that happens when I right click looks like the same speaker control that is ther just BIGGER and darker and useless
[18:34] <dunnoman> brb
[18:34] <SonikkuAmerica> Jpmh: Why can't you use that? Does it not do anything?
[18:35] <wilee-nilee> dunnoman, Some manufactures have different setups there though I guess
[18:43] <cebor> is there a ubuntu ringtail channel ?
[18:43] <SonikkuAmerica> #ubuntu+1 cebor
[18:43] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 cebor
[18:43] <cebor> ty
[18:43] <SonikkuAmerica> Yeah, that and that
[18:44] <SonikkuAmerica> * she_dyed has quit (Quit: WeeChat RULES the IRC wasteland!) <<< What a wasteland. :P
[18:44] <Jpmh> SonikkuAmerica: No - the new thing only has the volume for the speaker/headphones - which is what is already there in the panel - I usually wnat the right click for microphone volume
[18:44] <Dave77> are there any games for linux I can buy in the retail shop?
[18:45] <SonikkuAmerica> Dave77: Lots. You can also get Steam.
[18:45] <SonikkuAmerica> Dave77: If by "retail shop" you mean "Software Center"
[18:47] <Dave77> I don't have steam.. I only buy games in physical
[18:47] <SonikkuAmerica> Dave77: If you're looking for physical I wish you Godspeed and great blessing.
[18:49] <lesshaste> I am having problems getting vnc to work with ssh port forwarding. I want to connect to server C via server B.
[18:50] <lesshaste> I did this.. ssh -L 5900:user@serverC:5900 user@serverB
[18:50] <lesshaste> and then on serverC I did x11vnc -safer -localhost -nopw -once -display :0
[18:50] <lesshaste> is this wrong?
[18:50] <lesshaste> because when I do vinagre localhost::5900 locally now it says it can't connect
	Ari-Yang: the string merely reflects the backend your driver uses. changing the string alone is pointless ---> ah okay
[18:53] <Ari-Yang> can someone check and see if everything here looks good? http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=2uSkWW4i
[18:53] <smallfoot-> how do I install support for 32-bit binaries?
[18:53] <Ari-Yang> didn't pastebin the 96 GLX Visuals nor the 144 GLXFBConfigs
[18:57] <MonkeyDust> smallfoot-  i think you mean ia32-libs-multiarch
[18:58] <pglod> hi all, I've been having problems lately where my system locks up, seemingly randomly. The screen freezes, although I can still toggle wifi/capslock/etc.. I would try to SSH into the system but I'm on a public network whenever it happens. I've run memtest and have come up with no memory problems at all. This is ubuntu 12.04 32bit.
[18:58] <smallfoot-> MonkeyDust, not available on 13.04 raring ringtail
[18:59] <pglod> I've read in this situation it's best to do `Alt + SysReq + REISUB` but that doesn't seem to work, I have to do a hard reboot
[18:59] <KatsumeBlisk> pglod: So you don't know of the cause?
[18:59] <smallfoot-> MonkeyDust, nvm, it is in raring, icant find it tho http://packages.ubuntu.com/raring/ia32-libs-multiarch
[19:00] <pglod> no, I don't
[19:00] <KatsumeBlisk> pglod: Does your cursor freeze?
[19:00] <pglod> I don't notice anything in dmesg, but this was in kern.log the last time it happened: http://pastebin.com/B3PwrgXG
[19:00] <MonkeyDust> smallfoot-  why do you ask here, if you have 13.04 and are in the appropriate channel?
[19:00] <lesshaste> I am having problems getting vnc to work with ssh port forwarding. I want to connect to server C via server B.
[19:00] <lesshaste> I did this.. ssh -L 5900:user@serverC:5900 user@serverB
[19:00] <lesshaste> and then on serverC I did x11vnc -safer -localhost -nopw -once -display :0
[19:00] <lesshaste> because when I do vinagre localhost::5900 locally now it says it can't connect
[19:00] <dcgen> Hi, I wanted to know in which all systems have i currently logged into using a given username. This is a NFS setup and I wanted the ip's of all those devices so that I could log out
[19:01] <KatsumeBlisk> dcgen: "who"
[19:01] <pglod> yes, the whole screen freezes
[19:01] <KatsumeBlisk> dcgen: Wait
[19:01] <KatsumeBlisk> dcgen: Do you mean all the systems the machine your at is logged into?
[19:01] <dcgen> KatsumeBlisk: yes
[19:02] <dcgen> KatsumeBlisk: if say i have logged into machines a,b, and c with  the same user name , I want a command that will give me the names of the machines or their ip
[19:02] <dcgen> KatsumeBlisk: so here it will have to tell me a,b and c
[19:03] <KatsumeBlisk> dcgen: I misunderstood, so I can't help. Sorry.
[19:04] <dcgen> KatsumeBlisk: no problem ..
[19:04] <MonkeyDust> dcgen  ask in #bash
[19:04] <Pici> dcgen: logged in how?
[19:07] <notsofreenodee> what's the minimum
[19:08] <notsofreenodee> what's the minium requirement for the lastest ubuntu
[19:09] <MonkeyDust> !requirements | notsofreenodee
[19:09] <ciwolsey> hello
[19:11] <ciwolsey> im trying to get rvm for ruby installed.. it puts a file in /etc/profile.d/ .. if i do "source /etc/profile.d/rvm.sh" the script works as intended.. but since its in profile.d i shouldnt have to do this should i?
[19:14] <she_dyed> ciwolsey: works on login
[19:14] <she_dyed> so logout
[19:14] <pierdolle> d
[19:14] <she_dyed> ciwolsey: see if it's automatic (should be)
[19:21] <dlam> is there a way to find what package provides some file i need?  for example, i need a file at /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_wsgi.so
[19:22] <dlam> (on fedora i could do like  `yum provides */mod_wsgi.so`  or something)
[19:22] <onward> dlam, apt-file search 'somefile'
[19:22] <bazhang> File mod_wsgi.so found in libapache2-mod-wsgi, libapache2-mod-wsgi-py3   dlam
[19:22] <dlam> thanks!
[19:26] <jovank> hi can somone help me
[19:26] <jovank> i am using usb boot and i woulld like to change some things
[19:26] <jovank> so evry boot it steys thet we8
[19:27] <jovank> so i was thingking adding some script
[19:27] <jovank> i thinked changing boot options to add thet script
[19:27] <jovank> so can somone help
[19:27] <jovank> ?
[19:28] <onward> You could learn how to speak English first.
[19:28] <MisterMom> Lets_Go_Mili,  is spamming
[19:28] <jovank> omg like you dont understand
[19:28] <jovank> why so evil
[19:29] <bazhang> !usb | jovank have a read
[19:29] <bazhang> MisterMom, via PM?
[19:29] <MisterMom> bazhang, yes
[19:29] <bazhang> jovank, you want the persistent one
[19:30] <jovank> i dont know what is persistent one i just thinked to add script thet will install 1 program and chagne some things
[19:31] <bazhang> jovank, yes, that allows you to save changes, otherwise its a live usb (no changes will stick)
[19:31] <jovank> i try long ago backtrack usb persistant even i dident know what it is but my PC wont boot it
[19:32] <jovank> bazhang: i want to make my live usb just i dont want to make from start i wanted to use egsisting live usb and add 1or 2 programs and i think i can do thet whit a script
[19:33] <bazhang> jovank, you need to make it persistent. please read the link I sent you
[19:33] <jovank> i dont want to make chagest thet will stick jut to edit this live usb so it on starts runs some comand
[19:34] <minas> after upgrading to 13.04, there is no option in "sound manager" for HDMI output (it worked in 12.10, and yes, the cable is connected :) )
[19:34] <bazhang> minas, #ubuntu+1 for that please
[19:34] <minas> ok
[19:38] <jovank> bazhang:  aloooooooo
[19:40] <bazhang> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent   <---- jovank
[19:40] <jovank> i have Unetbooting and on it hes option to set persistan mode?
[19:41] <tdm4> hi.. anyone know if it is possible to compile wine1.4-i386 package from source on a Ubuntu 64-bit system without a 32bit chroot?
[19:41] <jovank> can it work or must i make usb persistan from linux
[19:42] <jovank> bazhang:  any input?
[19:43] <bazhang> jovank, did you read the link yet?
[19:43] <p0wn3d> jovank: Another options is to install ubuntu directly onto the USB drive. This will boot and run just like a normal instance
[19:43] <jovank> bazhang:  i did
[19:44] <jovank> p0wn3d:  so i can boot ubuntu from 1 usbe and install it on another?
[19:44] <jovank> p0wn3d:  like i am installing it on hard drive?
[19:45] <OerHeks> jovank sure, be carefull selecting your usb device
[19:45] <p0wn3d>  jovank: I have only done it with Linux Mint but I'm sure Ubuntu supports it also but what you would do is boot the ubuntu/mint installer DVD and then install to USB
[19:45] <OerHeks> jovank that destination usb must be 5 gb+
[19:45] <jovank> OerHeks:  it is 8gb
[19:46] <OerHeks> jovank, have fun
[19:46] <jovank> ok ty p0wn3d and OerHeks you are nice people bazhang is evil
[19:46] <jovank> good  bye
[19:46] <OerHeks> No, bazhang is a fine helper, we tried to figure out what you wanted to do.
[19:47]  * genii-around wonders how long before the USB stick swap partition fails miserably
[19:48] <OerHeks> genii-around, class 10+ and the device might work proper.
[19:48] <Giottomiao> ciao!
[19:48] <genii-around> Hm.
[19:48] <genii-around> !it | Giottomiao
[19:51] <bradley__> hello?
[19:52] <nahata> hi, do you guys know of a tool for Ubuntu that can download entire websites?
[19:53] <CarlFK> nahata: wget
[19:53] <ProtoPunk> nahata wget
[19:53] <CarlFK> jinks!
[19:53] <nahata> is that a command or a program?
[19:53] <bradley__> i  have a ubuntu server and i was wondering how do i turn on my server remotly from windows7 ?
[19:53] <nahata> i see it's a program, it sounded like a command :)
[19:53] <nahata> thanks
[19:54] <CarlFK> bradley__: google around for WAL - Wake On Lan - which your hardware will need to support, but it is pretty common
[19:54] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WakeOnLan
[19:54] <OerHeks> magic packet
[19:54] <bradley__> THANK YOU!!!!!!!!
[19:54] <CarlFK> yeah, that.
[19:57] <slicknick5181> I have a tftpd server and I want to know how to see which files are access when the device connects
[20:01] <bradley__> hey carl, my server is saying command not found when i give it this: sudo ethtool wlan0            what do i do?
[20:02] <bradley__> nevermind :/
[20:02] <bradley__> im such a noob
[20:03] <ProtoPunk> lol
[20:04] <reza-iran> where are you from?
[20:04] <bradley__> me?
[20:04] <reza-iran> yeah
[20:04] <bradley__> florida why?
[20:05] <reza-iran> i.m iranian
[20:05] <p0wn3d> slicknick5181: It sounds like you want to setup tripwire to monitor file access.
[20:05] <slicknick5181> p0wn3d, sounds coorect
[20:05] <slicknick5181> p0wn3d, Software center?
[20:06] <wiehan> Since I have been using linux, ubuntu that is, circa 2006/7 - the file copy dialog in nautilus has never EVER worked properly. Often (almost always) gets stuck at 100%. Especially when copying from a hard drive to a flash disk. Is it just me? Different PCs, different drives.. what the heck is going on?? tell me you peeps has noticed it as well
[20:06] <ProtoPunk> wiehan: not at all hahaha it has alwasy been working good for me
[20:07] <bradley__> ok, so my laptop does not support WOL, is there ANYWAY at all i can perform a remote boot?
[20:07] <wiehan> ProtoPunk, google it... so many people complain about it. No real solutions.
[20:07] <BluesKaj> ProtoPunk, can you help him ?
[20:07] <nabblet> smbfs!
[20:08] <reza-iran> no think.how are old you?
[20:08] <nabblet> smbfs!
[20:08] <nabblet> !smbfs
[20:08] <p0wn3d> slicknick5181: You might be able to do sudo apt-get install tripwire
[20:09] <slicknick5181> p0wn3d, Thank you much, I found it in the software center
[20:09] <p0wn3d> slicknick5181: Cool
[20:10] <petan|fu> is here some really lightweight desk environment
[20:10] <petan|fu> which eats minimal ram
[20:11] <petan|fu> and no cpu killer :P unlike gnome
[20:11] <slicknick5181> petan|fu, xUbuntu
[20:11] <wiehan> ProtoPunk, and everybody else http://bayimg.com/DALkNAAEo this is a almost a daily occurence for the last couple of years on different and updated incarnations of ubuntu with different drives.. gets stuck like this. This one has been like this for 15 minutes now, after copying fast initially
[20:11] <p0wn3d> petan|fu: LXDE, XFCE
[20:11] <petan|fu> slicknick5181 not looking for a distro, just env
[20:11] <ProtoPunk> wiehan: weird... I always move and copy files from hard drive to pendrive without a problem.. but ....
[20:11] <petan|fu> p0wn3d which one is better?
[20:12] <ProtoPunk> wiehan: the same thing happens if you start nautilus as root?
[20:12] <slicknick5181> petan|fu, XFCE is x
[20:12] <slicknick5181> petan|fu, XFCE is xUbuntu
[20:12] <petan|fu> ok
[20:12] <ProtoPunk> gksu nautilus wiehan
[20:12] <petan|fu> cool
[20:12] <petan|fu> gonna test
[20:12] <p0wn3d> petan|fu: I love LXDE. It has great themes, very fast, very cool
[20:12] <petan|fu> ok
[20:12] <petan|fu> I will check both
[20:12] <nabblet> petan|fu: LXDE is a mit more lightweigt than XFCE
[20:13] <slicknick5181> petan|fu, I use it on my PBX server which I am on right now and it doesn't slow this machine down at all
[20:13] <petan|fu> I had enlightment in past on server
[20:13] <petan|fu> that was like 6 years ago :P
[20:13] <ProtoPunk> wiehan: is the same thing happening if you start nautiulus with ...   gksu nautilus   ?
[20:14] <wiehan> http://goo.gl/673y7 so many people have this... the post range from years back. Even windows can copy files properly
[20:14] <ProtoPunk> wiehan: try that... start nautilus with gksu nautilus ... and try to copy the file again.. let me know if the same thing happens
[20:15] <wiehan> ProtoPunk, this has been happening over many different installs and many different versions and many different versions with many different people complaining. Whether it copies properly with or with our root is not solving the problem. How will ubuntu ever reach the top spot (that which it so daringly and dearly aims for) with stupid bugs like this http://goo.gl/673y7
[20:15] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[20:16] <ProtoPunk> wiehan: I'm asking you to know if the same thing happens so I can have a start point to help you there....
[20:16] <ShapeShifter499> the #ubuntu+1 beta channel seems quite dead so I'm going to ask my question here
[20:16] <ShapeShifter499> I just went through my sources, swapping them out for their "raring" versions but I noticed that the Steam package has placed a repo in there and that it is for "precise" although I had just been on 12.10 before updating, does this mean steam doesn't have a different repo for 12.10 and 13.04?
[20:16] <slicknick5181> p0wn3d, I'm not sure that this is going to monitor that way I am trying to achieve.. I have a couple of VoIP phones on my network that boot to tftpd server for config files and I don't think they are fetching the right files
[20:16] <ProtoPunk> wiehan: so please do a gksu nautilus and try the same thing!
[20:17] <wiehan> ProtoPunk, it does it in a similar fashion, and with one large side effect the files can only be deleted by Root..
[20:17] <MonkeyDust> ProtoPunk  gksudo nautilus is NOT a good idea, especially for people who are not familiar with ubuntu
[20:17] <p0wn3d> slicknick5181: It does not work out of the box. It needs to be configured for what you want.  Google is your friend
[20:18] <ProtoPunk> MonkeyDust: it is better than doing a sudo
[20:18] <wiehan> ProtoPunk, I just post here in the hope that once we reach ubuntu 18.10 it might one day get fixed and we will have decent and functioning copy dialogs
[20:18] <MonkeyDust> ProtoPunk  it is not
[20:18] <BluesKaj> wiehan, another reason why i use KDE
[20:18] <ProtoPunk> MonkeyDust: it is
[20:18] <MonkeyDust> ProtoPunk  with gksudo it is very easy to ruin your system, if ypu don't know what you are doing
[20:19] <MonkeyDust> gksudo nautilus, that is
[20:19] <bbbbb> hi
[20:19] <wiehan> BluesKaj, I respect that 100%, luckily for you KDE is aesthetically pleasing to your eyes, it is a matter of preference (sometimes form gets priority over function). I prefer Gnome. It should just work.
[20:19] <ProtoPunk> MonkeyDust: .... gksudo is better for graphic applications.... how else can you verify if the problem is with file permissions on his mounted drive?
[20:19] <ProtoPunk> if it works with gksudo it means that the problem is with permissions
[20:20] <wiehan> http://goo.gl/673y7 have a look at this
[20:20] <MonkeyDust> ProtoPunk  yes, but nautilus as root is NOT a good idea, or any other file manager
[20:20] <ProtoPunk> MonkeyDust: he is just copying one of his files to the usb drive
[20:21] <ProtoPunk> MonkeyDust: but yeah.. you should help him then...
[20:21] <reza-iran> hi bbbbb
[20:21] <slicknick5181> p0wn3d, Giving it a shot
[20:21] <slicknick5181> p0wn3d, Thanks again
[20:21] <MonkeyDust> ProtoPunk  just back at my desk, just don't advice nautilus as root
[20:22] <Imposible> Please can someone help me with bumblebee?? I tried to install it in every possible way that I have found and still not get it to work the nvidia graphic card
[20:22] <Darkstar1> hey guys I want to format the date output in bash so that I get the last two digits of the year instead of all four digits from this line: $(date '+%Y%m%d-%H:%M:%S')
[20:23] <BluesKaj> wiehan, agreed and the reason I use KDE is it's familair looking for old 'windows' guys like me.
[20:23] <bbbbb> so i installed 12.04 server and now it doesn't boot. I know I jacked up the partitions. The guided partioning worked perfectly. Then i redid it and did my own and it doesnt start ubuntu when i restart. Someone like to help me?
[20:25] <Darkstar1> anyone?
[20:26] <genii-around> Darkstar1: Change the Y to y
[20:26] <petan|fu> lxde is nice
[20:26] <Darkstar1> genii-around: thx
[20:26] <petan|fu> but gtk2 is having some troubles in it :P transparency is borked
[20:26] <genii-around> Darkstar1: np
[20:26] <petan|fu> actually it just doesn't work... but otherwise ot's cool
[20:27] <jrtappers> How do I send a file to standard in and then type afterwards to the program?
[20:27] <jrtappers> So I can send a set of startup commands to a program, and then be able to type into it
[20:30] <tdm4> Imposible: edit /etc/bumblebee/xorg.conf.nvidia
[20:30] <tdm4> Imposible: under option "UseEDID" "false", replace the line below it to:
[20:30] <Fuzzles> how come my additional drivers doesn show anything in 12.04 yet previous times ive installed it on this machine it shows my driver for graphics
[20:30] <tdm4> Option "UseDisplayDevice" "none"
[20:30] <tdm4> then try, in a term:  optirun glxspheres
[20:31] <SunStar> Fuzzles, some cards are no longer supported.
[20:31] <Fuzzles> SunStar, since when?
[20:31] <SunStar> bad choice of words but thats what it boils down to. the propreitary drivers no longer work, and the manufacturer considers these devices legacy n doesnt provide updates
[20:31] <Imposible> tdm4 to?
[20:32] <Imposible> "usedisplaydevice" "non"
[20:32] <Imposible> none*
[20:32] <mrjoel> hrm... is unity2d still being worked on, or is there another option for a less resource-intensive unity desktop?
[20:32] <Fuzzles> just when i thought  linux was getting better
[20:32] <tdm4> Imposible: /etc/bumblebee/xorg.conf/nvidia
[20:32] <c4pt> http://www.ebay.com/itm/181124624845?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1586.l2649
[20:32] <tdm4> oops
[20:32] <tdm4> Imposible: edit /etc/bumblebee/xorg.conf.nvidia
[20:32] <tdm4> it's in there
[20:33] <Imposible> yes i have the file open now
[20:33] <Imposible> i find the line you said
[20:33] <Imposible> it say : Option "UseEDID" "false"
[20:34] <Imposible> Option "UseDisplayDevice" "none"
[20:35] <and91> hello does anyone know why I'm not able to set environment variables in bashrc?
[20:36] <Imposible> I've changed but still not working optirun tdm4
[20:37] <Imposible> Cannot access secondary GPU - error: [XORG] (EE) No devices detected.
[20:41] <smallfoot-> Is there any CLI command to disable Multiverse repo?
[20:42] <cylonmath> Guys you know any good channel for computer vision ?
[20:43] <smallfoot-> cylonmath, Intel has some library for that
[20:43] <buu> Hello friends. How do I disable an xscreensaver activation that turned the monitor black?
[20:43] <siert> is 'ubuntu for phones' available for download somewhere?
[20:43] <buu> (disable from the command line that is)
[20:43] <k1l_> !phone | siert
[20:44] <smallfoot-> cylonmath, yeah #opencv
[20:44] <cylonmath> Thank you smallfoot-
[20:44] <smallfoot-> :)
[20:44] <siert> ubottu: thanks
[20:46] <buu> Anyone?
[20:46] <sparkss> question, seeing as I cant resize my raid array ext4 file system past 16TB
[20:47] <sparkss> I have to remove the 4 disks I have added to it ( mdadm --grow )
[20:47] <sparkss> does anyone know how to remove the exact same 4 disks that I have added?
[20:48] <armlesshobo> can I 'burn' the ubuntu installaiton iso to my usb stick using dd?
[20:48] <ProtoPunk> lol ... I almost got kicked from #ubuntu-es .... just for asking why ubuntu introduced zeitgeist, whoopsie and so on...
[20:49] <dir> you rock
[20:50] <OitC> exit
[21:01] <sparkss> anyone know?
[21:05] <gaby> hi guys I'm experiencing many freezes (running a freshly installed 12.10) and i/o errors. So I tried to run smartctl but it fails giving errors 2310,2311,2312,2313,2314
[21:06] <bekks> gaby: Whats the complete output of smartctl - please provide it in a pastebin.
[21:08] <genii-around> Odds are SMART monitoring is turned off in the BIOS and the drive(s) is past the point where it would normally just warn you it's starting to fail
[21:08] <gaby> bekks, http://pastebin.com/6tY6546P
[21:08] <gaby> genii-around, it's on
[21:09] <bekks> gaby: Looks like a dying harddisk.
[21:09] <gaby> bekks, I tried to run badblocks with a live grml distro but it was pretty full of bad blocks
[21:10] <bekks> gaby: The disk is dying soon.
[21:10] <gaby> bekks, yes I'm feeling it :) Anything to try like "isolate" the bad blocks?
[21:10] <genii-around> gaby: Most BIOS can be set that when you boot, if the HD are reporting errors through SMART, the boot will stop and warn you, asking to hit F1 or such to continue... this is the part I meant, not whether the drives themselves have it enabled or not
[21:10] <bekks> gaby: Nope. Get a new disk.
[21:11] <bekks> gaby: It's dead, Jim, let it go...
[21:11] <gaby> haha k thanks
[21:12] <gaby> genii-around, no, my bios doesn't allow to do that. anyway it looks like there's nothing to do to save it
[21:12] <Elshar> Make sure to backup what you don't want to lose at least. :)
[21:13] <gaby> Elshar, yes I already did it. The fact is that I had many freezes and i/o errors on debian wheezy so I decided to try and format. didn't work :)
[21:14] <gaby> anyway is it a good idea to run these tests on a regular basis?
[21:15] <lesshaste> I am having problems getting vnc to work with ssh port forwarding. I want to connect to server C via server B.
[21:15] <gaby> bekks, I mean they don't damage the disk?
[21:15] <lesshaste> I did this.. ssh -L 5900:user@serverC:5900 user@serverB
[21:15] <lesshaste> and then on serverC I did x11vnc -safer -localhost -nopw -once -display :0
[21:15] <lesshaste> because when I do vinagre localhost::5900 locally now it says it can't connect
[21:19] <Mark2> Hi all. I have a question about ubuntu server, but no-one on the server specific channel is active. Anyone willing to help? I think it's a fairly simple question.
[21:19] <com5> Hey all, is there a way to stop ubuntu autocrapperly resizing every fricking windows when I click on something else?
[21:20] <Mark2> Ah. Life stirs in the server thread. No worries.
[21:24] <wilee-nilee> com5, You might try communicating without the charged emotions.
[21:25] <com5> What like a lobotomised slave?
[21:25] <Bodsda> com5: or you could leave - your choice
[21:27] <ging> does anyone know if it is possible to extract or download from somewhere all the build files, used to build an existing package from source, like control file and rules files etc ?
[21:27] <Bodsda> ging: apt-get source packagename
[21:28] <com5> wilee-nilee, Bodsda, so you don't fine it frustrating when you set a window to the size you need, then as soon as you click on another window the window you just set the size of automaticly resizes to a seemingly pre-set size?
[21:28] <Bodsda> com5: I don't have the porblem, so no
[21:29] <Bodsda> problem*
[21:29] <ging> Bodsda: thanks that was far easier than i thought
[21:29] <CrashInfinite> pete: http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/SoftwareDescription.jsp?lang=en&cc=us&prodTypeId=15351&prodSeriesId=3219717&swItem=MTX-bd9f644af43f4fb1bf5a616e5c&prodNameId=3288124&swEnvOID=4004&swLang=8&taskId=135&mode=4&idx=0
[21:29] <Bodsda> ging: no problem :)
[21:30] <com5> Good as is was worrying me that canonical would let something like this through. So now it means it is just me
[21:31] <com5> So it must be something to do with my particuler GPU
[21:31] <Ari-Yang> if anyone is familiar with mplayer/mplayer2, the video output x11 gives me this when I use it: Colorspace details not fully supported by selected vo.
[21:31] <Ari-Yang> no way of fixing that? tbh it doesn't look bad at all (looks fine), just asking if there's a way to fix it.
[21:31] <com5> There is an mplayer2?
[21:31] <com5> Cool
[21:32] <Ari-Yang> ....yes com5, and afaik it's not up to date. I recommend mpv-player which is basically a fork (that is up-to-date)
[21:34] <lesshaste> is there a default firewall in 12.10? It seems some ports are blocked
[21:34] <Pici> ~/36
[21:34] <com5> I am still using mplayer for playing audio files and getting audio out of video files. It works great and I have no complaints
[21:34] <Bodsda> lesshaste: ufw - check out firestarter
[21:35] <lesshaste> is that differetn from iptables?
[21:35] <lesshaste> how do I tell if it is on?
[21:35] <Bodsda> lesshaste: nope, just a frontend - it will be on if you haven't turned it off, but by default it shouldn't block anything afaik
[21:36] <lesshaste> Bodsda, how do I check this?
[21:36] <Bodsda> lesshaste: run firestarter or just disable ufw with    sudo ufw disable
[21:36] <Dave77> are there any versions of ubuntu that don't come with unity?
[21:37] <Ari-Yang> @ Dave77 why not just install another DE?
[21:37] <Bodsda> Dave77: anything pre 10.10 I think
[21:38] <com5> Dave77, You can run Ubuntu with a different DTE
[21:39] <DJHenjin> Can someone help me troubleshoot why my server running ubuntu 12.04 keeps crashing.
[21:39] <k1l> Dave77: there are several other desktops available. if you would like see it preinstalled try Kubuntu, Xubuntu or Lubuntu
[21:39] <k1l> DJHenjin: you need the logfiles like dmesg and syslog
[21:40] <wilee-nilee> Dave77, There is a gnome 3 only remix as well.
[21:40] <DJHenjin> k1l: Ok, do you want me to pastebin them?
[21:41] <k1l> DJHenjin: yeah, but use the one from the failing session. if you pastebin them someone in here can take alook at it
[21:41] <DJHenjin> k1l: Ill pastebin from about an hour before to an hour after the crash
[21:42] <Nek> Hello !
[21:42] <blackbox> i installed ubuntu 12.04 in my acer travel mate P643-M and Brightness cannot be set . ANY HELp?
[21:42] <PinkSwing> I'm using Remmina to connect to a windows XP machine. It has worked perfectly before but today the display is misbehaving. When I move the mouse, parts of the display appear skewed. I already had to upgrade Java to make Network Connect work - odd because it worked earlier today then stopped working till I had upgraded Java. I'm still not convinced I have the correct version of Java because Chrome reported Java was not the most current verstion
[21:43] <wilee-nilee> blackbox, YOu have looked in system settings-brightness and lock?
[21:43] <blackbox> yes i did
[21:44] <wilee-nilee> blackbox, And can you in detail describe the problem then. ;)
[21:44] <blackbox> when i press the fn+arrow the icons display but nothing happens
[21:44] <Nek> I'm experimenting hardcore problems with EFI boot. My problem is a bit complicated, before spamming the chan, I would be sure somebody knows EFI boot, grub2 and dualboot (windows7...)
[21:44] <mac_> hy all.. can someone please help me out with gnome and compiz -> together -> i would like to have, that black pastet menu into this picture:  http://imagebin.org/254421 that menu is from gnome log in, and i clicked on user defined session and there is compiz and old look (upper menu)
[21:44] <com5> Thanks all, have a nice day/night and bye for now
[21:44] <blackbox> brightness is always full
[21:46] <NET||abuse> hi folks, i'm just trying to setup a home server, got the HP N40L nice little box with 4 bay raid array, though it's fakeraid, so really just using it in ahci mode.
[21:46] <NET||abuse> now, right now i have only 2 1TB drives in the bays.
[21:46] <NET||abuse> what way should i configure the drives? LVM or software raid?
[21:47] <NET||abuse> It's been quite some time since i've dealt with this stuff.
[21:47] <wN> NET||abuse: what are you trying to do?
[21:48] <wilee-nilee> blackbox, here is a acer link in general you can try this from a grub boot and if it works add it to /etc/default/grub
[21:48] <NET||abuse> wN: installing ubuntu server 12.10 on my microserver at home
[21:48] <wilee-nilee> http://askubuntu.com/questions/128463/brightness-controls-dont-work-on-an-acer-4741g
[21:48] <wilee-nilee> blackbox, ^^^
[21:48] <wN> NET||abuse: i meant for LVM/software raid
[21:48] <Ben64> wilee-nilee: he's been gone for a minute or so
[21:48] <wilee-nilee> cool
[21:49] <wilee-nilee> I have join and leave blocked
[21:49] <NET||abuse> oh, well there's a 4 drive bay in the system, so i want to run those 2 as data storage.. there's a 256GB drive i was thinking of adding in, but i don't have it in there just yet.
[21:49] <NET||abuse> hmm, i guess if i just want to install ubuntu straight onto the array, i can do that, but i'd rather have the extra drive as the OS,, ok
[21:50] <NET||abuse> so i will re-state as i think i prefer this plan
[21:50] <DJHenjin> heres the syslog from the time of the crash http://pastebin.com/YCsTneaA
[21:50] <mac_> hy all.. can someone please help me out with gnome and compiz -> together -> i would like to have, that black pastet menu into this picture:  http://imagebin.org/254421 that menu is from gnome log in, and i clicked on user defined session and there is compiz and old look (upper menu)
[21:50] <NET||abuse> 3 drives in system, 2x1TB and 1x256GB, the smaller of the 3 i will setup as main os drive. then i want to make a mirror'd set out of the other 2 drives for 1 TB of storage.
[21:51] <NET||abuse> wN: so that is where i am at, looking at the disk partition tool on the ubuntu ~installer
[21:51] <NET||abuse> so , the menu lists "configure the logical volume manager" and "configure software raid"  but i'm not sure which i should be doing.
[21:52] <wN> NET||abuse: it all depends what you're trying to accomplish. LVM will allow you to take disks, add them to a big pool, and care about logical disks (volume) with them. these can be mirrored, striped, or just strung together
[21:52] <wN> NET||abuse: softwaird raid actually raids your disk. raid1 raid0 raid5 etc
[21:53] <NET||abuse> wN: ok, i get the impression for future expandability, lvm is better to start with? am I right?
[21:53] <wN> I like LVM personally.
[21:53] <DJHenjin> k1l: i send the Syslog from the time it stopped being normal, to when it got normal again
[21:53] <NET||abuse> for now i just want a big 1TB disk and if one of the 2 disks in the group fails, how can i replace and rebuild it?
[21:53] <DJHenjin> and dmesg doesnt look out of the ordinary at all.
[21:54] <DJHenjin> NET||abuse: 2 disk striped RAID, is not recoverable.
[21:54] <NET||abuse> nW: and in future, when i want to add extra drives to the storage, can i re-size the existing volume and fill it up?
[21:54] <wN> NET||abuse: how big your disks?
[21:55] <armlesshobo> where can I find the md5 checksum for the ISO?
[21:55] <armlesshobo> installer ISO*
[21:55] <NET||abuse> wN: ok, i have 2 1TB disks, and a 3rd drive which i will put most of the os onto,
[21:55] <wilee-nilee> !md5sum
[21:55] <cuken> Is there a channel specifically for ubuntu server questions?
[21:56] <wilee-nilee> cuken, #ubuntu-server
[21:56] <cuken> Thank you
[21:56] <wN> NET||abuse: so you could use the 3rd disk for the OS, and create a mirror across the 2 disks with mdadm
[21:56] <mac_> hy all.. can someone please help me out with mixing gnome and compiz -> i would like to have, that black pastet menu into this picture of defined user session :  http://imagebin.org/254421 that black menu is from gnome log in, and there is no compiz :(
[21:56] <NET||abuse> wN: what's mdadm?
[21:56] <wN> NET||abuse: or you could use the 3rd disk for os and create LVM over the two 2TBs, then create a 1TB mirrored Logical Volume
[21:56] <wN> NET||abuse: mdadm is software raid
[21:56] <NET||abuse> ohh,
[21:57] <wN> NET||abuse: both will do what you ant
[21:57] <wN> LVM would allow you to add 2 more 1tB disks and increase your mirrored LV to 2TB
[21:57] <wN> i dont think you can do that with mdadm
[21:57] <NET||abuse> i think i would like to use the 3rd disk for os and keep it out of the lvm, that way i can move it out of the 4 disk interface to the extra sata interface off the mother board, when i try getting that working at some later stage.
[21:57] <wilee-nilee> mac_, gnome 3 is mutter no compiz
[21:57] <mac_> mutter?
[21:58] <wilee-nilee> !mutter
[21:58] <wN> NET||abuse: you could always put it on LVM but in a different storage pool (volume group)
[21:58] <mac_> so.. is there a way to mix them?
[21:58] <wilee-nilee> mac_, Another app, compiz does not run in gnome 3 in ubuntu
[21:58] <mac_> aha
[21:58] <wN> LVM is stored on the header of the disk, so as long as lvm is installed ont ehs ystem, youc an move lvm wherever you want
[21:58] <mac_> aha.. ok
[21:59] <mac_> how to gtk?
[21:59] <esx> Is there a simple (GUI) way to change the default 'Ubuntu One' folder, or do I have to edit /etc/xdg/ubuntuone/syncdaemon.conf?
[21:59] <mac_> gnome 3 - screensaver?
[21:59] <NET||abuse> wN: so the machine is a HP microserver, N40L  it has a 4 disk slots normally, but the upper bay is intended for CD drives or such, but it's a second sata interface, aparently  you can't get the extra interface to work without modifying the servers bios.
[22:00] <NET||abuse> wN: so for now yeh, i'll make it a seperate disk, seperate volume or whatever, then like you said, pool the other two.
[22:01] <NET||abuse> so once i make the pool of the 2 disks. can i just rock on with the install? Does LVM do the mirroring? or do you have to setup raid within the LVM?
[22:01] <wilee-nilee> mac_, NOt sure waht you want nor I doubt I could help even if I did, details are important for the channel however here is the mutter man http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man1/mutter.1.html
[22:01] <wN> NET||abuse: https://access.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6/html/Logical_Volume_Manager_Administration/mirrored_volumes.html
[22:01] <wN> abd
[22:01] <wN> and
[22:01] <wN> NET||abuse: https://access.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6/html/Logical_Volume_Manager_Administration/raid_volumes.html
[22:01] <wN> NET||abuse: i would suggest reading both of those pages, then deciding if you want to do raid1 or lvm mirroring.
[22:01] <wN> NET||abuse: then there is a link on how to set it up
[22:02] <wN> NET||abuse: of course, you can just install ubuntu and configure this after its up
[22:02] <NET||abuse> wN: oh goodie :) reading... i'll read those, cool. thanks so much.
[22:02] <armlesshobo> how do i burn an iso image to a usb stick?
[22:02] <NET||abuse> wN: that's a good point, since i can make seperate volumes, just boot of the smaller disk, leave the other two just pooled, then configure them and add them to the mounts after the fact.
[22:02] <mac_> wilee-nilee, thank u
[22:02] <MonkeyDust> !burn | armlesshobo
[22:03] <mac_> this help
[22:03] <mac_> this helps
[22:03] <NET||abuse> wn: also means i get my second monitor back once i get sshd running, back to extended desktop on my laptop.
[22:03] <wN> NET||abuse: you could even just ignore them entirely and add them to the pool later
[22:03] <armlesshobo> MonkeyDust: this does not write to a usb stick, only discs
[22:03] <MonkeyDust> armlesshobo  use unetbootin, it's the most common way
[22:04] <NET||abuse> wN: thanks, really helpful to get me started. yeh, your right, just ignore them till later.  Is there any advantage to having the small os disk under LVM in the long run?
[22:04] <MonkeyDust> armlesshobo  correct, the factoid should be updated
[22:04] <wN> NET||abuse: only if you ever need to extend it
[22:04] <fabrica_> oi
[22:04] <mac_> wilee-nilee, i would like to explore different desktops... gnome, ubuntu, lxda are ones i know about...
[22:05] <NET||abuse> wN: i don't see that being a real posability.
[22:05] <fabrica_> alguem sabe instalar programas no linux
[22:05] <MonkeyDust> !pt
[22:05] <NET||abuse> wN: ok, i'll ignore for now. many thanks.
[22:05] <fabrica_> #ubutu-br
[22:06] <MonkeyDust> fabrica_  it's /join #ubuntu-br       (don't forget the / )
[22:06] <wilee-nilee> mac_ There about 50 take your pick
[22:07] <mac_> am... something like gnome 3 and compiz? if possible with handy things like rool-up windows?
[22:08] <mac_> all of them?
[22:08] <mac_> :/
[22:08] <MonkeyDust> mac_  do you like a lot of eye candy?
[22:09] <mac_> not very much.. just handy things... this rool-up, or lower windows is perfect mause solution ... :)
[22:09] <mac_> but, i exceptet :)
[22:09] <angs> how can I set time & date of the system permanently?
[22:10] <mac_> sorry, 4 my bad ang..
[22:10] <mac_> angs - bios?
[22:10] <angs> I am running ubuntu on not pc
[22:10] <MonkeyDust> not pc?
[22:11] <angs> I mean on an embedded board that does not have bios
[22:11] <mac_> MonkeyDust, what u got?
[22:11] <MonkeyDust> mac_  nothing, sorry
[22:11] <angs> how can I set the time and date of the system (ubuntu) permanently?
[22:11] <mac_> :)
[22:12] <MonkeyDust> !details | angs
[22:12] <genii-around> angs: Probably ntpd
[22:13] <angs> genii-around, if we assume the ubuntus will not have an internet connection, is there another method than ntpd?
[22:13] <bekks> angs: "date".
[22:13] <genii-around> angs: How does it currently tell time?
[22:14] <angs> Thu Jan  1 00:18:09 UTC 1970
[22:14] <mac_> wilee-nilee,
[22:14] <wilee-nilee> mac_, yes
[22:14] <bekks> angs: And "hwclock -systohw"
[22:14] <bekks> angs: And "hwclock -systohc", sorry
[22:15] <mac_> can we go through the process of downloading some of those 50..
[22:15] <mac_> please
[22:15] <angs> bekks, which one would you recommend date or hwclock?
[22:15] <angs> is one of them more reliable than the other one?
[22:15] <wilee-nilee> mac_, I could not find the list sorry, but there is some info on the web for options.
[22:16] <bekks> angs: First date to set the date, then hwclock -systohc to set it to the hwclock (bios).
[22:16] <bekks> angs: Both commands have to be used using sudo I guess, at least the latter.
[22:17] <angs> thank you
[22:21] <mac_> wilee-nilee, thank u
[22:24] <angs> I did cp /usr/share/zoneinfo/Europe/Stockholm /etc/localtime to change the timezone, but cat /etc/localtime shows weird output http://paste.ubuntu.com/5717244/ , is it normal to have such output or did something go wrong on my timezone setting?
[22:24] <nilay> can anyone help me with network manager in ubuntu 12.10
[22:25] <nilay> i am screwed
[22:25] <nilay> plzzzzzzz help me
[22:26] <angs> you cannot get help without telling your problem
[22:26] <blake> whats up nilay
[22:26] <nilay> my wired connection says device not managed
[22:26] <nilay> i have installed it today itself
[22:26] <angs> nilay, whatever your problem is, Wicd might be better to use
[22:27] <wilee-nilee> !details > nilay
[22:27] <nilay> earlier i had problem with raspppoe in windows 7
[22:28] <jakey1> is there a place I can ask c programming question or newbs
[22:29] <jakey1> for newbs
[22:29] <jrib> jakey1: ##c
[22:29] <ddssc> ubuntu 12.10 is slow as hell. any quick fixes for this?
[22:30] <wilee-nilee> nilay, Run in the terminal lspci and find the ethernet info and post that
[22:30] <ddssc> correction: ubuntu 12.10 is slow as hell in virtualbox.
[22:30] <blake> jakey i know a little c - shoot
[22:30] <wilee-nilee> ddssc, Ubuntu has always been a problem in virtualbox, you might check with #vbox
[22:31] <wilee-nilee> at least I have found it problematic
[22:32] <jakey1> blake, http://pastebin.com/iaxF73nb  it will not compute more than n = 30?
[22:32] <jakey1> Its because the n is an int and can't hold more information
[22:33] <jakey1> How do increase it's seize
[22:33] <DJHenjin> jakey1: C max integer size may be your problem, use a big number library
[22:34] <jakey1> DJHenjin, such as?
[22:34] <nilay> what details should i give
[22:35] <DJHenjin> jakey1: thats not really a discussion for a Ubuntu channel, More for C or C++ channel
[22:36] <p00h> #openstack
[22:37] <bray90820> is there a way to mount an ubuntu SSH server as an sd card on android
[22:37] <nilay> i dont know what u are asking for, but i am posting the entire result
[22:37] <nilay> 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/PM/GMS, 943/940GML and 945GT Express Memory Controller Hub (rev 03) 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03) 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03) 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family High 
[22:38] <qum> hello
[22:38] <qum> i habvbe a moitor issue
[22:38] <DJHenjin> nilay: pastebin,
[22:38] <qum> i have a tv monitor 26inch and i can't get the screen right. it appers that the taskbar is almost unseern.. any help?
[22:38] <DJHenjin> dont paste large chuks of text in channel, use pastebin.com or similar site
[22:38] <nemo> So.  I'm trying to figure out how to install ubuntu on a Lenovo G6780 without losing existing windows.
[22:38] <wilee-nilee> nilay, You are looking for ethernet in the list,
[22:39] <nilay> sorry but where is it
[22:39] <nilay> ?
[22:39] <nemo> TBH, I'm strongly tempted to just back the entire disc up to a file in case I ever need it, since last time I never ended up booting windows once
[22:39] <martina> hi i have a problem with my sd card reader it is not working in ubuntu that's the model :Alcor Micro Corp. AU6477
[22:39] <wilee-nilee> nilay, This is a onboard right not a usb plugin ethernet?
[22:39] <she_dyed> nemo there is an option to instll alongside windows
[22:39] <nemo> But anyway, finding the UEFI documentation on ubuntu.com a wee bit confusing
[22:39] <DJHenjin> nemo: http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/dual-boot-windows-7-ubuntu.html or google search dual boot ubuntu with windows 7
[22:40] <wilee-nilee> nilay, For example mine shows this. 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88E8039 PCI-E Fast Ethernet Controller (rev 14)
[22:40] <nemo> DJHenjin: one thing that bothers me is that the USB drive doesn't seem to boot unless I enable legacy mode
[22:40] <nemo> DJHenjin: the one on which I installed the ubuntu 12.10 64 bit
[22:40] <qum> guys, any help?
[22:40] <nemo> DJHenjin: makes me worried that it won't detect UEFI in the installer and screw up boot partition or something
[22:41] <she_dyed> qum search for xrandr and thinkwiki
[22:41] <nemo> DJHenjin: that's a deviation from the page you linked to almost immediately :)
[22:41] <nilay> 05:00.0 Ethernet controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88E8055 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 11)
[22:42] <nilay> mine is 05:00.0 Ethernet controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88E8055 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 11)
[22:42] <qum> she_dyed: well, i don't know what to do:/
[22:43] <she_dyed> google those terms
[22:44] <wilee-nilee> nilay, Here is link for fixing networking not sure what you are actually trying to do you are missing details. http://askubuntu.com/questions/71159/network-manager-says-device-not-managed
[22:44] <nilay> wilee-nilee, u there?
[22:45] <wilee-nilee> nilay, yes
[22:45] <nilay> what details do u want
[22:45] <nilay> i can give u
[22:46] <nilay> more
[22:46] <qum> she_dyed: well, the problem is that my monitors native resolution is 1360x768. In win it shows well, in linux it seems to be not a full screen, the launcher bar is seen only in a half and i can't see the task bar almost at all!?
[22:47] <nilay> see i am new to this, so i dont know anything other than how to open terminal
[22:47] <she_dyed> qum you can try xrandr -q in a terminal to see what supported by the current display driver
[22:48] <wilee-nilee> nilay, I'm just trying to find general info for you, and have you realize that some information is important for you to search and the channel to help. I found a earlier bug with this ethernet controller, and problems with networking. If you can get the wireless to work I would run a update
[22:49] <Ari-Yang> is anyone here familiar with smplayer?
[22:49] <she_dyed> !anyone > Ari-Yang
[22:49] <miksd> qum: how to add more resolutions to your monitor if some resolution is missing for some reason: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=945465&p=5993954#post5993954
[22:50] <wilee-nilee> #hardware
[22:50] <Ari-Yang> well..... I have a question about smplayer (technically smplayer2), how do I make it select the default auto subtitle of a video? without enabling 'select first available subtitle track'?
[22:51] <Ari-Yang> I want the default subs to be automatically enabled, but I don't want the non default subs to be loaded...
[22:51] <rawdigger> hi peoples
[22:51] <nemo> DJHenjin, she_dyed - FWIW the crucial thing is booting in EFI mode is important.
[22:51] <nemo> Boot screen is quite different then
[22:51] <rawdigger> why does my ububntu 12.04 alternate cd not boot?
[22:52] <wilee-nilee> nilayOn the #hardware channel they say they can take a look, post that ethernet info there as well.
[22:52] <nemo> DJHenjin: I'd enabled legacy 'cause I couldn't seem to get it to boot off USB in EFI
[22:52] <qum> she_dyed, miksd, my native resolution isn't missing, just that isn't showing the full screen..like i wrote, i can't see the taskbar, only some part of it and i can see only half of the laucnher bar. I use the same resolution i used in win(there 1360x768 showed fine) and still it's doesn't seems right!?
[22:52] <wilee-nilee> oh well gone
[22:52] <nemo> DJHenjin: The solution is to go to settings in Windows 8, General, At the very bottom choose the option to reboot for USB and whatnot
[22:52] <she_dyed> Ari-Yang: i think it keeps preferred settings in .mplaye ror .smplayer in your $HOME
[22:52] <nemo> DJHenjin: then once it reboots select booting from USB.  Once I did that, the ubuntu installer was aware of EFI
[22:53] <nemo> I tried setting USB boot from EFI in BIOS, but every time I restarted the windows boot loader was given precedence
[22:53] <she_dyed> qum and does xrandr -q show it or is it off by a few
[22:53] <rawdigger> says "Operating System not found"
[22:53] <qum> she_dyed: i'm not sure, can i paste it somewhere and show it to u?
[22:53] <she_dyed> no, did it say 1360 or not?
[22:54] <qum> she_dyed: yes it did.
[22:55] <she_dyed> that was painful
[22:55] <qum> can it be a hdmi issue in linux?
[22:57] <wilee-nilee> rawdigger, This the net install ?
[22:57] <bray90820> how do i ignore someone on irc
[22:58] <rawdigger> wilee-nilee, downloaded from ubuntu md5 hash was ok, no the live cd
[22:58] <wilee-nilee> bray90820, ?ignore "nick" all
[22:58] <bray90820> thank you
[22:58] <wilee-nilee> bray90820, /ignore "nick" all
[22:59] <wilee-nilee> rawdigger, So can you give more details this might help,
[22:59] <wilee-nilee> rawdigger, The alternative is nor a live cd
[22:59] <wilee-nilee> not*
[23:00] <wilee-nilee> rawdigger, How did you burn it?
[23:00] <rawdigger> wilee-nilee, its this d/l, an iso which i burned to a cd: ubuntu-12.04-alternate-i386.iso.  ah, ok, no live cd , but i must boot it... burned w</ windows standard
[23:01] <bray90820> wilee-nilee: that didn't seem to work
[23:01] <wilee-nilee> rawdigger, That link does not resolve
[23:01] <rawdigger> w8
[23:02] <rawdigger> wilee-nilee: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/12.04.1/ubuntu-12.04.1-alternate-i386.iso
[23:03] <wilee-nilee> bray90820, That s in xchat I guess, you might look for this info on your irc client
[23:03] <rawdigger> wilee-nilee, tried hitting F6....^^
[23:03] <wilee-nilee> rawdigger, Have you looked at the UEFI info, and maybe you have burned the disc to fast.
[23:03] <wilee-nilee> !uefi
[23:04] <qum> kk..i can see no one is helping, i'll try mint
[23:04] <qum> ty
[23:04] <bray90820> alright
[23:04] <rawdigger> wilee-nilee, howto check the uefi info?, burned with 24x
[23:05] <rawdigger> [01:04] <rawdigger> wilee-nilee, howto check the uefi info?, burned with 24x
[23:06] <DJHenjin> rawdigger: OS install DVD's should usually be burned at the lowest speed so that there are no errors, just FYI
[23:07] <rawdigger> wilee-nilee, does it help when i say 11.10 boots flawlessly?
[23:07] <rawdigger> DJHenjin: its aCD
[23:07] <DJHenjin> rawdigger: CD's too for that matter
[23:07] <wilee-nilee> rawdigger, not really
[23:07] <nemo> Oh well. Looks like it all installed nicely. Later folks.
[23:08] <rawdigger> so DJHenjinf, wilee-nilee, u suggest burning it again?
[23:08] <nemo> Shame about the roundabout boot route.  I'm suspicious MS is just trying to make it hard for people to pop a USB drive in and try another OS
[23:08] <nemo> yeah, security, blah blah :)
[23:08] <DJHenjin> rawdigger: I would try burning at the lowest speed possible right now
[23:08] <wilee-nilee> rawdigger, I would, you are familiar with the uefi link the bot gave right?
[23:09] <wilee-nilee> rawdigger, Use a usb if you have one.
[23:09] <rawdigger> wilee-nilee (like typing that name^^)^nope ididnt see no bot link?
[23:10] <wilee-nilee> !uefi | rawdigger
[23:10] <DJHenjin> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[23:10] <DJHenjin> theres the bot link
[23:10] <DJHenjin> at least i believe thats the one he is referring to
[23:11] <rawdigger> pooh wilee-nilee, DJHenjin dont get that stuff,
[23:12] <wilee-nilee> rawdigger, You want a 12.04.2 at the least for uefi if that is what you have 12.10 will run.
[23:12] <wilee-nilee> rawdigger, YOU might go to the ubuntu forums, the best help for uefi is there.
[23:13] <nilay> hey wilee, 1st prob fixed
[23:13] <nilay> now is has started searching
[23:13] <dr_willis> sad that UEFI is one of the many reasons, ive not bought a new pc in 2 years.. and am waiting longer...
[23:14] <nilay> but wired network disconnected
[23:14] <NET||abuse> wN: thanks for the help, machine is installing with LVM setup, still reading those red-hat pages now. ;) home server at last, been waiting 3 months to do this.
[23:15] <rawdigger> wilee-nilee, i think there is no 12.04.2 alternate cd. Forums is all new to me
[23:15] <dr_willis> !alternative
[23:16] <bray90820> How would i have Samba run over WAN
[23:16] <bray90820> from my ubuntu server
[23:16] <dr_willis> bray90820:  samba should work over a wired network same as a wireless network
[23:16] <NET||abuse> bray90820: WAN? you mean open internet?
[23:16] <nilay> hey wilee-nilee, plz help
[23:16] <dr_willis> unless i missunderstand the question
[23:16] <bray90820> yes i do mean open internet
[23:16] <haqe17> Hi, I want to block all INPUT/OUTPUT using iptables, but just allow port 80
[23:16] <NET||abuse> bray90820: highly unadvisable.
[23:17] <wilee-nilee> rawdigger, You may be right the alternative is now the netload mini. THe forum has people on daily that concentrate on uefi, so I would confer with them to confirm if you have uefi and where to go from there.
[23:17] <haqe17> anyone know the command?
[23:17] <bray90820> CIFS
[23:17] <dr_willis> bray90820:  you  may want to look into  a VPN/openvpn then
[23:17] <NET||abuse> bray90820: you need samba to run behind firewall. don't open it up and use ssh or vpn to get onto your own network
[23:17] <rawdigger> wilee-nilee, i have bios no uefi
[23:18] <bray90820> well the app i have is for my android phone is a cifs manager
[23:18] <wilee-nilee> rawdigger, You install W8 yourself in a msdos partitioning setup?
[23:18] <dr_willis> bray90820:  you wanrt to get to a Ubuntu box from an android device? theres ssh/sftp clients for android
[23:18] <nilay> can somebody help me with wired network disconnected
[23:19] <NET||abuse> bray90820: dr_willis mentions openvpn, which is cool, i'm not sure how easy it is to setup these days, otherwise, you need to setup a vpn on your android phone.
[23:19] <rawdigger> wilee-nilee is u talking about windows?
[23:19] <dr_willis> bray90820:  or somthing like openvpn.
[23:19] <bray90820> i want it to mount as an SDcard
[23:19] <miroesq> I am running Ubuntu 12.04 and experienced a power outage. I have my computer setup to turn on automatically should it lose power. Problem is that when the power came back up, I had to chose an option whether to start using a generic profile or generic profile with an auto recovery option or memeory test before teh machine boots. Is it possible to set the OS to automatically boot into one of those profiles?
[23:19] <dr_willis> bray90820:   i just saw 'sshfs' for android a while ago when i googled. No need for samba/cifs
[23:19] <rawdigger> wilee-nilee, nope only XP
[23:19] <wilee-nilee> nilay, #hardware suggested they might be able to help, and they also suggested #networking post that ethernet info
[23:19] <bray90820> i am looking at that right now
[23:20] <wilee-nilee> rawdigger, Ah I thought you had said W8.
[23:20] <dr_willis> bray90820:  you may want to be asking about this in #android also
[23:20] <bray90820> i am
[23:21] <rawdigger> wilee-nilee, i was never talking about windows, just using it on another pc  to burn the cd
[23:21] <Guest78104> help: http://pastebin.com/RjX3fXS7
[23:21] <bray90820> but since i have an ubuntu server i thought i would try in here as well
[23:21] <rawdigger> but not xp
[23:21] <wilee-nilee> rawdigger, Ah, my mistake, so try another burn would be what I would do, or use a usb flash if you have one.
[23:22] <rawdigger> wilee-nilee, hate this windows 7 , u burn a cd and it cant read the next empty cd....
[23:23] <wilee-nilee> rawdigger, download this and use it. http://www.imgburn.com/
[23:23] <rawdigger> wilee-nilee, will it boot the iso from an usb stick if i got other stuff next to it??
[23:23] <rawdigger> wilee-nilee thx
[23:24] <wilee-nilee> rawdigger, not generally you want to at best have a new partition to start with generally, it depends on the loader you use some will partition it automatically.
[23:27] <wilee-nilee> dr_willis, I gave Guest78104 a link to actionparsinps key fixer script but they wont use it, maybe you can confirm its use. https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+question/223769
[23:28] <CaliMac> i will repartition it and also look at the tonymacx86 form for dual boot osx/ubuntu config threads.  thanks for the direction
[23:29] <rawdigger> wilee-nilee thx
[23:29] <wilee-nilee> rawdigger, no problem.
[23:30] <rawdigger> wilee-nilee, does it matter what speed i burrn with with this programme? its 20x ca.
[23:31] <wilee-nilee> rawdigger, slow as possible
[23:33] <dr_willis> wilee-nilee:  that script seems to do a lot of work thats not related to the 'question' posted which basically is fixed by commenting out the cd sources from the sources.list  ;)  but   it does seem to clean out potential other issues in the apt files if they get messed up.
[23:33] <rawdigger> wilee-nilee, no need to burn slow (i guess?) its no booting fine...thx
[23:34] <rawdigger> wilee-nilee *now
[23:34] <wilee-nilee> dr_willis, We tried al but commenting it out, so you may be corect there.
[23:34] <dr_willis> wilee-nilee:  as far as i know - the package managers will still work eith the cd source.. it just nags with a message....
[23:34] <dr_willis> you tried everything except the easiest , most common fix? ;)
[23:36] <wilee-nilee> dr_willis, Doh, I have run into this problem and used commands, I'm biased I guess. ;)
[23:36] <wilee-nilee> or stupid
[23:36] <dr_willis> guess you could use sed or awk to comment the line out. ;)
[23:37] <dr_willis> you could also  use  a chainsaw to trim your toenails.....
[23:37] <wilee-nilee> lol
[23:37] <CaliMac> i vote chainsaw
[23:40]  * wilee-nilee is oiling the chain getting ready
[23:42] <kessyus> test
[23:43] <CaliMac> I am trying to us osx to create a thumb drive installer of ubuntu desktop12.10 x64
[23:45] <din> CaliMac: use disk utility to restore the iso to the thumb drive.
[23:50] <CaliMac> disk utility grey's out the iso and will only let me restore a .dmg file
[23:50] <Miesco_> damb you!
[23:51] <leeping> Hi there, I have a computer running Ubuntu that won't start.  How do I force it to boot to the terminal?
[23:51] <leeping> Is there a keystroke?
[23:54] <CaliMac> AWKB
[23:54] <knightshade> leeping: that would be too easy :P
[23:56] <leeping> knightshade, my coworker has had to reinstall from LiveCD 3 times because every time he tries to install NVIDIA drivers, the display won't work and he can't get a terminal
[23:56] <barefoot> is there a linter or something to figure out the issue with a /var/lib/apt/lists file?
[23:57] <CaliMac> NVIDIA is a pain on the hackintosh too.  is there a GraphicsEnabler=No option at boot menu on Ubuntu?