| GridCube | i just bought a new laser printer, after downloading the drivers from http://www.support.xerox.com/support/phaser-3040/downloads/enin.html?operatingSystem=linux&fileLanguage=en_GB it get recognized and its on lsusb it shows as Bus 002 Device 018: ID 0924:3cf9 Xerox and the printer settings says its there too, using this URI usb://Xerox/Phaser%203040?serial=3179006196 , however after trying to run the test print i get an error and this is th | 00:10 |
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| GridCube | e CUPS log http://pastebin.com/gr1wmkjq | 00:10 |
| GridCube | i get "Filter failed" on the cups log | 00:18 |
| GridCube | rebooting did nothing | 00:27 |
| GridCube | so, anyone knows some CUPS? | 01:30 |
| bazhang | sure | 01:33 |
| GridCube | i just bought a new laser printer, after downloading the drivers from http://www.support.xerox.com/support/phaser-3040/downloads/enin.html?operatingSystem=linux&fileLanguage=en_GB it get recognized and its on lsusb it shows as Bus 002 Device 018: ID 0924:3cf9 Xerox and the printer settings says its there too, using this URI usb://Xerox/Phaser%203040?serial=3179006196 , however after trying to run the test print i get an error and this is th | 01:34 |
| GridCube | e CUPS log http://pastebin.com/gr1wmkjq | 01:34 |
| GridCube | the printer queue in cups says "filter failed" | 01:35 |
| GridCube | i have an epson inkjet printer in the same usb-hub and it works perfectly | 01:36 |
| GridCube | :( | 01:46 |
| GridCube | not getting any answer gives me lots of anxiety | 01:47 |
| GridCube | no luck | 02:47 |
| GridCube | i cant figure this out | 02:47 |
| holstein | GridCube: are there other drivers? try the most generic one you can | 02:49 |
| GridCube | i cant seem to find generics | 02:49 |
| holstein | GridCube: i just force them in the GUI | 02:50 |
| holstein | GridCube: the add-a-printer GUI.. i havent used the actual CUPS web interface in a while | 02:50 |
| GridCube | yes | 02:51 |
| GridCube | im using that | 02:51 |
| GridCube | :( | 02:59 |
| GridCube | why | 02:59 |
| GridCube | i dont understand | 02:59 |
| holstein | :/ | 02:59 |
| holstein | theres even a .deb package... | 02:59 |
| holstein | interesting... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2136163 | 03:01 |
| Cheri703 | Anyone know how to set up bitlbee? | 03:04 |
| Cheri703 | oh, wait...maybe it's working | 03:04 |
| Cheri703 | nvm :) | 03:04 |
| GridCube | holstein, yes, thats my exact problem | 03:04 |
| GridCube | but just like me, no one answered | 03:04 |
| GridCube | well | 03:09 |
| GridCube | this is one of the reasons why i understand why people hate linux | 03:09 |
| GridCube | and even more when this is just a printer, if something linux should do office stuff better than no one | 03:10 |
| GridCube | ggggggggggggggggrr | 03:10 |
| === bazhang_ is now known as bazhang | ||
| carrera | Greetings! :) | 09:20 |
| packetfrog | Hello! | 09:21 |
| carrera | does xubuntu desktop support RAID? | 09:21 |
| carrera | I had to install the Ubuntu server to setup RAID on my laptop | 09:22 |
| baizon | carrera: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID | 09:23 |
| carrera | baizon, thank u sir! :) | 09:24 |
| carrera | does xubuntu include zeitgeist? | 09:27 |
| baizon | carrera: not by default | 09:28 |
| baizon | im using it with "synapse" | 09:28 |
| carrera | I don't want it | 09:29 |
| carrera | I tried to remove it from Ubuntu 12.04 + Gnome and it messed up my desktop | 09:30 |
| baizon | carrera: because without it, dash wont work | 09:31 |
| baizon | ... and unity. | 09:31 |
| carrera | I knew about unity | 09:31 |
| baizon | carrera: but to your question, xubuntu uses xfce which isnt usint zeitgeist at all | 09:31 |
| carrera | but I didn't think it would break Gnome | 09:31 |
| carrera | mind u, I did a apt-get remove zeitgeist* | 09:32 |
| baizon | carrera: it does not, but ubuntu is using gnome + unity | 09:32 |
| carrera | and I said, "Yes" to remove all matching packages | 09:32 |
| baizon | ou ok :) | 09:32 |
| baizon | then you removed all dependencies :> | 09:32 |
| baizon | which broke your desktop | 09:32 |
| carrera | yes sir! :) | 09:32 |
| carrera | is that why I couldn't get Gnome running without installing unity on my Ubuntu Server 12.04 | 09:35 |
| carrera | baizon, I really like Gnome but I don't want to have to install Unity just to run Gnome | 09:37 |
| carrera | any suggestions? | 09:37 |
| packetfrog | http://www.itworld.com/software/272614/use-gnome-classic-ubuntu-1204 | 09:39 |
| packetfrog | carrera, % | 09:40 |
| packetfrog | ^ rather | 09:40 |
| carrera | packetfrog, thanks! :) | 09:40 |
| * packetfrog passes the thanks on 2 google | 09:40 | |
| carrera | :) | 09:40 |
| carrera | which version did Ubuntu go Unity only btw? | 09:42 |
| packetfrog | 11? | 09:43 |
| rhin0 | i'm sticking to 10.04 because the next lts last time I tried it (4 months ago) .. was unstable to the point of locking up | 09:43 |
| rhin0 | I am not moving off 10.04 | 09:43 |
| rhin0 | the next LTS | 09:43 |
| packetfrog | 12.04 worked fine for me. | 09:43 |
| packetfrog | and a million other people | 09:43 |
| Pensacola | I have installed 12.10 server edition, and the gnome3 packages on top | 09:43 |
| carrera | 12.04 worked fine for me too | 09:43 |
| Pensacola | works perfectly | 09:43 |
| rhin0 | i'll stick to it for now .. my options are to try the next LTS again or go to centos | 09:44 |
| packetfrog | I like Xubuntu. Ktnx. | 09:44 |
| rhin0 | i've evaluated many linuxi ... I like centos | 09:44 |
| packetfrog | centos is not an option | 09:44 |
| carrera | Pensacola, did u have to install unity too? | 09:44 |
| packetfrog | thats just silly | 09:44 |
| rhin0 | I know its not ubuntu - but to go forward | 09:44 |
| Pensacola | no, I did not install ubuntu-desktop | 09:44 |
| packetfrog | For a daily desktop ? | 09:44 |
| rhin0 | i like centos -- i've only run fedora mandriva ubuntu | 09:44 |
| packetfrog | rhin0, ^ | 09:45 |
| rhin0 | yeah for a daily desktop | 09:45 |
| rhin0 | redhat | 09:45 |
| Pensacola | just a sec, let me search the correct package | 09:45 |
| packetfrog | good luck with that | 09:45 |
| rhin0 | why can't it be a "daily desktop" packetfrog | 09:45 |
| packetfrog | I just tried it out for a week and it was chit. | 09:45 |
| Pensacola | just install the gnome package | 09:45 |
| packetfrog | well It can obviously | 09:45 |
| packetfrog | but it is not any funy | 09:45 |
| rhin0 | im still getting updates on 10.04 :) | 09:45 |
| packetfrog | fun* jesus I cant type laying down | 09:45 |
| carrera | I installed 12.04 Server and Gnome Shell but I had to install Unity to get it start at boot | 09:46 |
| Pensacola | it installed lightdm with the gnome package, so no problem with that here | 09:47 |
| packetfrog | :> | 09:51 |
| carrera | lightdm? | 09:51 |
| Pensacola | lightdm is the login manager, sort of :) | 09:52 |
| carrera | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LightDM | 09:53 |
| carrera | I'm confused now | 09:53 |
| carrera | there's an image of on the page | 09:53 |
| carrera | the caption is LightDM in Ubuntu 12.04 with its default Unity Greeter front-end | 09:53 |
| Pensacola | well, it uses gdm in xubuntu, it's in the list | 09:54 |
| carrera | does LightDM use the dreaded unity greeter? | 09:54 |
| Pensacola | you can choose :) | 09:54 |
| carrera | gdm? | 09:54 |
| Pensacola | but I can't remember the command to switch if you have multiple installed | 09:54 |
| carrera | do u guys live on the west coast? | 09:55 |
| carrera | it's almost 3 am here in Vancouver | 09:56 |
| packetfrog | i do | 09:57 |
| carrera | I'm going to bed now but I'll be back with more questions tomorrow | 09:57 |
| packetfrog | im below u | 09:57 |
| carrera | Seattle? | 09:57 |
| packetfrog | 5 to 3 actually | 09:57 |
| packetfrog | portland | 09:57 |
| carrera | 2:57:50 to be exact | 09:57 |
| packetfrog | lol | 09:57 |
| carrera | ;) | 09:57 |
| packetfrog | night | 09:58 |
| carrera | that's my OCPD | 09:58 |
| carrera | I was trying not to be exact for once, and u caught me | 09:58 |
| Pensacola | I live in the netherlands :) | 09:59 |
| carrera | cool | 09:59 |
| carrera | I've been to the Netherlands | 09:59 |
| carrera | I stayed at the | 09:59 |
| carrera | American Hotel in Amsterdam | 10:00 |
| Yotson | cheeseheads ftw! :D | 10:00 |
| carrera | ftw? | 10:00 |
| baizon | for the win | 10:01 |
| carrera | baizon, thanks | 10:01 |
| carrera | cheeseheads? | 10:01 |
| baizon | but guys, this is a support channel, if you wanna talk offtopic you can do this in xubuntu-offtopic | 10:01 |
| carrera | sure | 10:01 |
| baizon | i mean #xubuntu-offtopic | 10:01 |
| carrera | thanks baizon, didn't know about #xubuntu-offtopic | 10:02 |
| antisober552 | Hi im looking for a lightweight ubuntu dm | 10:08 |
| baizon | antisober552: dm | 10:12 |
| antisober552 | Lightweight ubuntu distro | 10:14 |
| baizon | antisober552: Xubuntu, Lubuntu | 10:14 |
| baizon | try them | 10:14 |
| rhin0 | lubuntu | 10:14 |
| rhin0 | is the lighter (than xubuntu) | 10:14 |
| rhin0 | lubuntu = xubuntu lite | 10:15 |
| antisober552 | Lubuntu does not load for me | 10:15 |
| rhin0 | what have you tried rloading it off .. maybe try a CD | 10:15 |
| antisober552 | I have xubuntu but it freezes my pc | 10:15 |
| rhin0 | i've found 10.04 to be rock solid to the extent that I have not had a freezeup in 3 years | 10:16 |
| antisober552 | Xubuntu 10.04 ? | 10:16 |
| rhin0 | I am sure that the new LTS (long term support) release, will have similar reliability | 10:16 |
| rhin0 | yah | 10:16 |
| rhin0 | i love it man ... its fantasstic | 10:17 |
| antisober552 | Cause i have the 12.04 installed | 10:17 |
| antisober552 | Lts | 10:17 |
| rhin0 | tbh 4 months ago I was gettin glockups with it | 10:17 |
| rhin0 | seriously | 10:17 |
| rhin0 | also bugs | 10:17 |
| rhin0 | IMO .. as software gets o;der it decays | 10:17 |
| antisober552 | Okay i will try xubuntu 10.04 | 10:17 |
| rhin0 | I may be right in expressing an opinion, that 10.04 is a stabler release | 10:17 |
| rhin0 | thing is tho (aintisober) | 10:18 |
| rhin0 | its out of support now | 10:18 |
| antisober552 | Or should i try lubuntu 10.04 | 10:18 |
| rhin0 | this month | 10:18 |
| antisober552 | I dont get what that means | 10:18 |
| rhin0 | no idea .. haven't tried it have only tried the later lubuntu | 10:18 |
| rhin0 | supported as in "updates" . | 10:18 |
| rhin0 | supported by canonical .. with patches | 10:18 |
| antisober552 | Ok | 10:18 |
| rhin0 | seriously -- running xubuntu 10.04 now is like running win xp | 10:18 |
| rhin0 | if you were into windows (retchesp) | 10:19 |
| rhin0 | i retch gaaah. | 10:19 |
| rhin0 | i wasn't that impressed to be getting complete lockups with the lates xubuntU lts | 10:19 |
| rhin0 | backed away off it | 10:19 |
| antisober552 | Yeah ivehad windows xp installed all my time of having this pcand im kinda board with it so i thought about ubuntu | 10:19 |
| rhin0 | xubuntu gives you a traditional desktop | 10:20 |
| rhin0 | ubuntu now has gone more like apple | 10:20 |
| antisober552 | Yeah | 10:20 |
| rhin0 | I'm sick of people changing an OS completely every few years -- I walked off ub ujntu because of that (when they went to unity) | 10:20 |
| rhin0 | thats why I don't go near windows -- look @ the difference now between win 7 and win 8 | 10:21 |
| rhin0 | they are throwing new paradigms at their poor sap users for marketing reasons | 10:21 |
| rhin0 | that marketing reason being, that they need to develop a mobile platform | 10:21 |
| antisober552 | Oh i know win 7 was okay but win 8 is bad i hate it | 10:21 |
| rhin0 | because currently microsoft is as good as dead mobile (market share) | 10:21 |
| antisober552 | So i dont care if i cant update i just want a pc which runs really fast on a diffent os | 10:23 |
| rhin0 | you'll find that xubuntu is far less bloated than micorosft product | 10:23 |
| carrera | thanks for all the help guys. see u tomorrow! :) | 10:23 |
| rhin0 | its small | 10:23 |
| rhin0 | i load this on a 500gb disk and its 1% usage upon install | 10:23 |
| antisober552 | Soim gunna download xubuntu 10.04 as i like the xubuntu 12.04 look | 10:24 |
| rhin0 | I think you can upgrade xfce on 10.04 | 10:24 |
| rhin0 | the xfce 4.2 (new release) which is on 12.04 | 10:24 |
| rhin0 | is more luxurious | 10:24 |
| rhin0 | it is very nice really | 10:24 |
| antisober552 | That one thing i wo7ld want to update | 10:24 |
| rhin0 | I set up plenty of panel applets | 10:25 |
| rhin0 | all I need | 10:25 |
| rhin0 | right click on panel ..set up blank pannel applet (for anything) | 10:25 |
| rhin0 | pure utility | 10:25 |
| * rhin0 has many setup | 10:25 | |
| antisober552 | Umm where can i download xubuntu 10.04 | 10:26 |
| rhin0 | ill give u the link for the iso brb | 10:26 |
| antisober552 | Okay thx | 10:26 |
| rhin0 | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/10.04/release/ | 10:26 |
| rhin0 | xubuntu-10.04.2-desktop-amd64.iso | 10:26 |
| rhin0 | for 64 bit -- "dessktop" | 10:26 |
| rhin0 | plain install | 10:27 |
| rhin0 | "alternate" .. is a lower graphics install | 10:27 |
| antisober552 | I need the intel one | 10:27 |
| rhin0 | desktop install gives you a full gui on install | 10:27 |
| rhin0 | xubuntu-10.04.2-desktop-i386.iso | 10:27 |
| rhin0 | i386 = intel (non 64 bit) | 10:27 |
| antisober552 | Okay | 10:27 |
| rhin0 | xubuntu-10.04.2-alternate-i386.iso <- alternatively (low graphics install) (low resource install) | 10:27 |
| rhin0 | you download the iso | 10:28 |
| rhin0 | then use your cd burner | 10:28 |
| rhin0 | no idew wht it is on windows | 10:28 |
| rhin0 | or on ubuntu I personally use "sudo usb-creator-gtk" to blank and write the iso to a usb key | 10:28 |
| rhin0 | works fine | 10:28 |
| rhin0 | thats the most basic working tool to write iso images to a usb key (IMO) | 10:28 |
| rhin0 | both methods (cd or usb) give you a bootable "live" issue of xubuntu | 10:29 |
| rhin0 | which will connect, booted off a cd or usb key | 10:29 |
| rhin0 | when you have install .. be sure to set up "software sources" | 10:29 |
| rhin0 | "applications > system > software sources" | 10:29 |
| antisober552 | Well i do it of usb would that be fine | 10:30 |
| rhin0 | and tick the boxes on the tab "other softrware" for "canonical" | 10:30 |
| antisober552 | Or would it be best off cd | 10:30 |
| rhin0 | to make sure your repositiory is up to date use sudo apt-get update | 10:30 |
| rhin0 | "sudo .. " etc | 10:30 |
| antisober552 | Yeah | 10:30 |
| rhin0 | then when it's all updated | 10:30 |
| rhin0 | after you've clicked on to get the 200mb of updates it'll signal you with | 10:31 |
| rhin0 | then, you can download the drivers it knows you need | 10:31 |
| rhin0 | if you have hardware that doesn't have a linux driver right now | 10:31 |
| rhin0 | say a comms card | 10:31 |
| antisober552 | Okay dude thx for your help | 10:31 |
| rhin0 | you can use "ndiswrapper" (plenty info out there) .. to "wrap" a proprietary windows driver .. so the dfvice is useable on linux, using the windows driver | 10:31 |
| rhin0 | then .... .. you can hit the thing with a SLEDGEHAMMER multiple times and it will not break (10.04 is so robust IMO) | 10:32 |
| antisober552 | I have a wifi pci card will that be picked up at start | 10:32 |
| rhin0 | therres good sites for linux wireless compatibility, driver sources .. at the most you have to go to your hardware site | 10:32 |
| rhin0 | simplest solution IMO is to use a wireless usb key | 10:32 |
| antisober552 | Or will i need the drivera | 10:32 |
| rhin0 | say a netgear WG511 ... totally, absolutely compatible | 10:33 |
| rhin0 | xubuntu picks up hardware like that automatically | 10:33 |
| rhin0 | say a "belkin" wireless usb key | 10:33 |
| rhin0 | buy the most common (buy the cheapes) .. its like having a ford escort | 10:33 |
| rhin0 | all works | 10:33 |
| antisober552 | Okay thx | 10:34 |
| rhin0 | nothing faster in this game at a certain level .. all you want a comms card/key to do is work | 10:34 |
| rhin0 | and they all work the same | 10:34 |
| rhin0 | np | 10:34 |
| packetfrog | I like mine to be hackable | 10:35 |
| packetfrog | so i can look at your packets | 10:35 |
| antisober552 | To be fair ever since i replaced my hdd master sleve xubuntu 12.04 runs well | 10:35 |
| packetfrog | >|:D | 10:35 |
| antisober552 | Touch wood | 10:35 |
| packetfrog | ^ Packet samurai face. | 10:35 |
| rhin0 | packefrog must be a nunja leet haxxor | 10:36 |
| packetfrog | No, Im not chinese. | 10:36 |
| packetfrog | >:(* | 10:36 |
| kerl | hello | 12:21 |
| kerl | hey packetfrog you there? | 12:22 |
| kerl | can anyone help me with TinyCore ? | 12:24 |
| kerl | I'm new on linux and dont know how to install stuff on TinyCore | 12:26 |
| Pici | kerl: This channel is for Xubuntu support only. We don't support other distros. Try #tinycorelinux or ##linux | 12:27 |
| cfhowlett | kerl, this is xubuntu support. see tiny core 's page for support options | 12:27 |
| kerl | thanks it's just i talked to someone about that distro yesterday | 12:28 |
| antisober552 | Hi gridcube | 13:30 |
| GridCube | hi antisober552 | 13:31 |
| antisober552 | That os u said about didnt load | 13:31 |
| antisober552 | Mageia | 13:32 |
| GridCube | was a long shot | 13:32 |
| antisober552 | Yeah i guess but ive changed my master sleeve for the hdd and xubuntu has not crashed as much as before | 13:33 |
| antisober552 | Hi rhin0 | 13:34 |
| rhin0 | hi antisober552 | 13:35 |
| antisober552 | Ive had to put xubuntu on to a dvd and bootit that way since i dont that the installing it is working im about 75\% thought the setup | 13:36 |
| rhin0 | #1 issue for getting xubuntu up and running is connection (obviously) | 13:36 |
| rhin0 | yeah - dvd will be faster | 13:36 |
| antisober552 | Im still installing it to the hard drive | 13:36 |
| antisober552 | Ive not even got togetting it connected to theinternet | 13:37 |
| kgb | antisober552: master sleeve?.. btw., (x)ubuntu 13.04 is pretty slick (still just beta 2, should be coming out April 25th) | 13:39 |
| kgb | oh you meant USB? | 13:39 |
| GridCube | the live session connects to the internet | 13:40 |
| GridCube | kgb, he mean to "slave" | 13:40 |
| antisober552 | Yeah sorry | 13:40 |
| antisober552 | It does not happen as much as it did but on 12.04 the pc just freezes and i cant seem to find out why so im going to 10.04 | 13:41 |
| kgb | antisober552: sometimes.. the CD will work - rather than the DVD - and vice versa, btw. | 13:41 |
| kgb | had that happen on this machine here, in the past | 13:42 |
| antisober552 | Ive had window xp ,vista and win 7 on this pc and never happend once i had ubuntu install as well but it was laggy but never freezed but since i wipe my hdd and installed xubuntu 12.04 i get the pc freeze at random | 13:44 |
| antisober552 | So im installing 10.04 to see if i have the problem on this version | 13:45 |
| antisober552 | Then i might try the beta | 13:45 |
| kgb | did you make some empty space and let the installer "install along side of windows" or did you partition yourself.. could be that there's a mistake there MAYBE | 13:48 |
| kgb | bc i really haven't had a single problem since (x)ubuntu 12.04 | 13:48 |
| antisober552 | No xubuntu as a clean install | 13:49 |
| kgb | oh | 13:49 |
| kgb | :( | 13:49 |
| antisober552 | I got board with windows so i gotrid of it | 13:49 |
| kgb | hehe cool! | 13:49 |
| kgb | btw., with Sandy bridge (and higher), there is CPU virtualization to run windows within the oracle vm for example | 13:50 |
| antisober552 | And ilike the fact 6hat xubuntu looks so clean | 13:50 |
| kgb | yea XFCE rly came a long way :)) | 13:50 |
| kgb | ^^ there's a BIOS option to turn on virtualization | 13:51 |
| kgb | *uefi bios | 13:51 |
| antisober552 | The only problem i have is that i have an iphone and that need itunes 11 | 13:51 |
| kgb | right, i downloaded windows xp 64-bit and using that for some apps; works pretty flawlessly | 13:52 |
| kgb | *xp 64-bit sp2 | 13:52 |
| kgb | .. not 2 bother with Wine | 13:52 |
| antisober552 | Yeah i was gunna try and keep to on os if i can | 13:52 |
| kgb | sure, this isn't dual-booting; oracle vm runs it as a file | 13:53 |
| antisober552 | Ive had wine before on ubuntu and it never worked with itunes | 13:53 |
| antisober552 | Okay will it run on ubuntu | 13:53 |
| kgb | https://www.virtualbox.org/ (and there's a plugin, for hardware) | 13:54 |
| antisober552 | Okay well xubuntu is still installing | 13:54 |
| rhin0 | i get my ipod mini updating from some ubungu prog | 13:54 |
| kgb | "VirtualBox 4.2.12 Oracle VM VirtualBox Extension Pack" is what's needed... | 13:55 |
| antisober552 | Okay thxs | 13:55 |
| kgb | sure :) | 13:55 |
| kgb | one sec, i will find the link to optimize the image file as well | 13:55 |
| rhin0 | that gives you usb | 13:55 |
| antisober552 | This group is so helpful at times | 13:55 |
| rhin0 | the virtualbox from the site > the virtualbox from synaptic (ubuntu package) | 13:55 |
| antisober552 | Rhin0 i need help]it installed but i got a message up for the grub-pc | 13:56 |
| kgb | here, this topic isn't bad.. i was able to cut-down the initial install from over 5GB, to under 4GB (after defragmenting with Raxco perfectdisk and compacting) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1464248 | 13:56 |
| rhin0 | grub = bootloader | 13:57 |
| rhin0 | just hit return | 13:57 |
| antisober552 | No its says | 13:57 |
| kgb | rhin0: yeah, it's for USB, good call | 13:57 |
| kgb | (he will need that) | 13:57 |
| antisober552 | Install the grub boot loader to the master boot record | 13:57 |
| antisober552 | Yew or no | 13:57 |
| kgb | nah, imo, it's not necessary; but it matters in some cases | 13:58 |
| kgb | strange it doesn't ask me that, on default install | 13:58 |
| antisober552 | So yes or no ? | 13:59 |
| kgb | not sure!..:) | 13:59 |
| antisober552 | Rhin0 ? | 13:59 |
| rhin0 | what | 13:59 |
| rhin0 | yeah | 14:00 |
| rhin0 | mbr | 14:00 |
| rhin0 | yes | 14:00 |
| antisober552 | Okay | 14:00 |
| rhin0 | if you want to blow away windows | 14:00 |
| rhin0 | ie. | 14:00 |
| rhin0 | you are not installing side by side | 14:00 |
| rhin0 | is it a clean install of linux onto machine | 14:00 |
| rhin0 | nothing else | 14:00 |
| rhin0 | if so "yes" to that | 14:00 |
| GridCube | andrzejr, yes | 14:00 |
| GridCube | antisober552, | 14:00 |
| GridCube | yes | 14:00 |
| rhin0 | i thin khes got the alternative install | 14:01 |
| kgb | (maybe make sure it's going to sda - to the correct hdd if you have more than one plugged in) | 14:01 |
| rhin0 | going | 14:01 |
| antisober552 | Okay its not booting | 14:04 |
| kgb | blah how come, no grub showing up? | 14:05 |
| antisober552 | Nope | 14:05 |
| kgb | :( | 14:05 |
| kgb | so you have more than 1 HDD plugged in? | 14:05 |
| antisober552 | I only have one hdd | 14:06 |
| kgb | hm | 14:06 |
| GridCube | antisober552, try this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair | 14:06 |
| GridCube | i cant help you further tho, i think you have a hardware issue | 14:06 |
| antisober552 | I dont have any way off booto=ing to do a boot repair | 14:07 |
| antisober552 | I guess i will try 13.04 | 14:07 |
| GridCube | antisober552, you do have access to the live session on the dvd | 14:08 |
| antisober552 | No | 14:08 |
| rhin0 | is it an old machine .. I mean -- your install was slow | 14:08 |
| antisober552 | 6his machine in 9 years old | 14:09 |
| GridCube | antisober552, well sorry then i dont know | 14:09 |
| antisober552 | On 6hats fine | 14:09 |
| GridCube | try a new hd maybe? :( | 14:09 |
| cfhowlett | antisober552, lubuntu or xubuntu 12.04 LTS are suggested | 14:09 |
| rhin0 | thats OLD now | 14:09 |
| kgb | by the way, why not use a USB to install - instead of cd/dvd (it's a *lot* faster) | 14:09 |
| rhin0 | also what spec | 14:09 |
| GridCube | antisober552, for such an old machine a non-pae kernel its recommended tho | 14:09 |
| rhin0 | its going to run like a dog with 512mb of ram | 14:10 |
| kgb | oh, true, alternate CD for older (non-pae kernel) | 14:10 |
| GridCube | so 12.04 xubuntu its your bet option | 14:10 |
| rhin0 | maybe | 14:10 |
| rhin0 | check hardware requirements (wikipedia, xubuntu) | 14:10 |
| * rhin0 guesses its only got 512mb ram | 14:10 | |
| rhin0 | also the disk may be v old | 14:10 |
| antisober552 | Okay spec of this pc is 768 mb of ram 80 gb hdd readon 9200 and its a p4 | 14:11 |
| rhin0 | 9 years old = slow | 14:11 |
| rhin0 | thats an old hard drive | 14:11 |
| rhin0 | p4 = ancient | 14:11 |
| rhin0 | you are at the barest level for running modern ubuntu | 14:11 |
| kgb | antisober552: i was able to do a regular install with radeon 9250 and p4 celeron D in the past (xubuntu 12.04) | 14:11 |
| antisober552 | Hey i wont have that xubuntu runs well on 6his pc it just freezes random | 14:11 |
| rhin0 | im pessimistic | 14:11 |
| rhin0 | also 768mb of ram is an irregular ram size | 14:12 |
| rhin0 | there could be mis-matched anything on that machine | 14:12 |
| antisober552 | Meaning | 14:12 |
| kgb | rhin0: not if it's not dual-channel RAM; should be fine, right? | 14:12 |
| rhin0 | ok ok | 14:12 |
| rhin0 | not a hardware person | 14:12 |
| GridCube | (mis-matched rams never stopped me) | 14:12 |
| kgb | :) | 14:12 |
| * GridCube has 1*512mb, 1*1gn, 2*2gb | 14:13 | |
| kgb | dang xD | 14:13 |
| antisober552 | No still the same ram which was in the pc when it was brought | 14:13 |
| antisober552 | I have a dell opitplex gx240 lol | 14:14 |
| antisober552 | That was m6 very first pc i ever got | 14:14 |
| kgb | antisober552: the HDD is completely empty, you have no data on it that you need to keep?? | 14:15 |
| antisober552 | Yes it was a complet wipe im gunna get 12.04 lts on dvd and install that way' | 14:16 |
| kgb | ok if you can wipe it and you have patience, boot from the cd/dvd/usb and just remove all partitions with gparted and don't make any | 14:16 |
| kgb | then run the installer after rebooting | 14:16 |
| kgb | that might do the trick | 14:17 |
| antisober552 | I cant find specs for xubuntu | 14:17 |
| GridCube | antisober552, you should be fine, but slow | 14:17 |
| antisober552 | Okay | 14:17 |
| GridCube | if, and only if, hardware is fine | 14:18 |
| kgb | if you have a USB, stick xubuntu on it with http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ | 14:18 |
| antisober552 | I deleted it ;( | 14:18 |
| kgb | ah | 14:18 |
| antisober552 | Should i try 62 bit ? | 14:18 |
| GridCube | no | 14:18 |
| GridCube | 32 | 14:18 |
| kgb | your PC is 99% not 64-bit =) | 14:19 |
| GridCube | use 32 | 14:19 |
| antisober552 | Cause ive had win 7 62bit installed on that pc before | 14:19 |
| GridCube | antisober552, its 64, not 62, 64 its 32+32 | 14:19 |
| kgb | oh no kidding.. then go with 64-bit; the xubuntu installer will tell you if you can't install 64-bit | 14:19 |
| antisober552 | Sorry its this keyboard im using on android | 14:20 |
| GridCube | O_o its 64? or 32? you put half of those numbers | 14:20 |
| kgb | anyway GridCube when he tries to start it with AMD64 it will tell him if his PC is 32-bit | 14:20 |
| GridCube | sure | 14:21 |
| antisober552 | No ill go with 32 bit cause when i installed the 64 bit win 7 it ran like a bag of crap | 14:21 |
| kgb | if you put 32-bit on 64-bit machine, it means that everything will be translated and it will run actually slower | 14:21 |
| genii-around | Hard to tell though if thats because it's 64 bit, or because it's Win 7 ... | 14:21 |
| rhin0 | try 65 bit | 14:22 |
| rhin0 | ok ok not funny | 14:22 |
| kgb | hehe ;p | 14:22 |
| antisober552 | Lol | 14:22 |
| rhin0 | maybe lubuntu will run better on a machine that old | 14:22 |
| GridCube | or puppy | 14:22 |
| rhin0 | cos it is a lot smaller footprint,faster | 14:22 |
| antisober552 | Its does not | 14:22 |
| rhin0 | but .. its not as "luxurious" as xubuntu | 14:23 |
| antisober552 | Lubuntu does not even load | 14:23 |
| rhin0 | also -- its not xfce .. its lxde | 14:23 |
| rhin0 | its a bit non standard iMO | 14:23 |
| rhin0 | puppys a more widely used distro than xubuntu | 14:23 |
| rhin0 | its in the top 5 | 14:23 |
| rhin0 | xu buntu is about 28 now | 14:24 |
| antisober552 | I dont like puppy its all over the place | 14:24 |
| rhin0 | horses for courses | 14:24 |
| kgb | .. there's crunchbang | 14:24 |
| kgb | but try erasing the partitions and just running the installer with no manual partition creation.. still *might* work that way | 14:25 |
| antisober552 | I will try xubuntu install by dvd if it freezes ill go to crunchbang | 14:25 |
| kgb | and i'm out 2 get a haircut :) w00t | 14:26 |
| antisober552 | Oksy thx for the help | 14:27 |
| antisober552 | Im going to change my keyboard | 14:27 |
| antisober552 | Thats better | 14:28 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Unit193: May I inquire about one of your work items in Xubuntu: "See if we ship the Pidgin IRC client by default" What did that mean? | 15:11 |
| rhin0 | k | 15:18 |
| SonikkuAmerica | l | 15:18 |
| antisober552 | Hi guys | 15:18 |
| rhin0 | was in bash sorry | 15:18 |
| antisober552 | Lol | 15:18 |
| SonikkuAmerica | rhin0: Oh. No biggie. :) | 15:18 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Hello again andrzejr | 15:18 |
| rhin0 | i've got a batch file "k" | 15:19 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Or rather hello antisober552 | 15:19 |
| rhin0 | kills ..... | 15:19 |
| rhin0 | without mercy | 15:19 |
| antisober552 | Hi | 15:19 |
| aiena | Hi I need help getting my geniusPen M406 graphic tablet to work on xubuntu 12.0.4 LTS any tips ? | 15:31 |
| SonikkuAmerica | That wouldn't be Wacom-based, would it? | 15:32 |
| aiena | no non wacom based | 15:35 |
| aiena | do you thin using wine + the wiondows driver will work ? | 15:35 |
| aiena | sorry I am new to linux as a whole | 15:35 |
| SonikkuAmerica | No. | 15:35 |
| aiena | I am running dual boot | 15:35 |
| SonikkuAmerica | You might want ndiswrapper though. | 15:36 |
| aiena | it has a macosx driver | 15:36 |
| aiena | do you think that can be used | 15:36 |
| aiena | since mac is unix based | 15:36 |
| aiena | I think | 15:36 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Can you pastebin your [ lsusb ] output? | 15:36 |
| SonikkuAmerica | aiena: I think it can. Step 1: ^ | 15:37 |
| aiena | one sec | 15:37 |
| aiena | SonikkuAmerica: http://pastebin.com/rbeKRwqr | 15:39 |
| aiena | the last one kye systems is the usb device | 15:40 |
| SonikkuAmerica | OK. Now how about [ xinput list ]? | 15:40 |
| aiena | SonikkuAmerica: pastebin.com/3Fk4EqYB | 15:42 |
| aiena | it is there as Genius EasyPenM406 | 15:43 |
| aiena | under virtual core poiner | 15:43 |
| SonikkuAmerica | id=16 | 15:43 |
| * aiena nods | 15:43 | |
| SonikkuAmerica | Does it work as a mouse? | 15:43 |
| aiena | yes | 15:43 |
| aiena | but no clicking | 15:43 |
| GridCube | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2040033 | 15:43 |
| aiena | no pressure sensitvity | 15:43 |
| SonikkuAmerica | GridCube: I was looking at that first thing. GMTA. | 15:44 |
| mo | howdy, i have a question | 15:44 |
| SonikkuAmerica | !question | mo | 15:44 |
| ubottu | mo: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience | 15:44 |
| === mo is now known as Guest74470 | ||
| SonikkuAmerica | Guest74470: Did you forget to auth? | 15:44 |
| Guest74470 | i try to lock down some settings | 15:44 |
| Guest74470 | no, didn't know io have to. no matter. | 15:44 |
| aiena | GridCube: thanks looking at the video | 15:44 |
| Guest74470 | i tried to use /etc/xdg/xfce4/kiosk/kioskrc | 15:45 |
| Guest74470 | but it seems not to be read at all | 15:45 |
| Guest74470 | (tried strace -f to check for that.) | 15:45 |
| Guest74470 | and nothing honors the settings therein | 15:45 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Guest74470: That's probably becuase it's .kioskrc | 15:45 |
| Guest74470 | why would it be? | 15:46 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Or it's kiosk.rc | 15:46 |
| aiena | GridCube: thats exactly what is happening | 15:46 |
| SonikkuAmerica | either way | 15:46 |
| Guest74470 | in libxfce4util there is exactly that path given (strings /usr/lib/libxfc....) | 15:46 |
| Guest74470 | xfce4-kiosk-query gives me the correct information about locked down capabilities | 15:47 |
| Guest74470 | but xfce (and the xubuntu-session) don't honor those settings | 15:47 |
| GridCube | aiena, read the thread | 15:47 |
| Guest74470 | do you know anything about that? | 15:47 |
| aiena | yes reading !! | 15:47 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Guest74470: Can't say I have... you may need to wait around or ask in #xfce | 15:48 |
| GridCube | Guest74470, a workaround we found once was to change the owner of ~/.config/xfce4 files to root, that way no changes will affect the files by the user meddlings | 15:48 |
| Guest74470 | that is not so good | 15:49 |
| GridCube | do you understand what i mean? | 15:49 |
| GridCube | yes, thats not the best option but kiosk doesnt really work anymore | 15:49 |
| Guest74470 | because our homedirs are on an nfs, and the /etc/skel is chowned to the newly created users and stuff | 15:49 |
| GridCube | cant you just make ~/.config/xfce4 a symlink to a root dir? | 15:50 |
| Guest74470 | so, having root:root files in $HOMEs is ... kinda tinkery | 15:50 |
| Guest74470 | i could do that, yes | 15:50 |
| GridCube | Guest74470, i know this is not optimal, but its the best workaround we found | 15:50 |
| Guest74470 | would have been nice to have a 'real' xfce-way solution | 15:51 |
| Guest74470 | booted kde out for that | 15:51 |
| GridCube | Guest74470, yes, i know | 15:51 |
| GridCube | you could ask on #xfce but i dont think it would change much | 15:51 |
| Guest74470 | (there is NO way to config a kde besides the graphical stuff. a zillion files which are all working together, .inis, xmls ans config-servers... that's no way to admin many users | 15:52 |
| Guest74470 | and the docs are for kde 2.somethingreallyold | 15:52 |
| Guest74470 | ok | 15:52 |
| GridCube | Guest74470, you could report the kiosk fail to the #xfce-dev people and see if they can guide you? but i don't know | 15:52 |
| Guest74470 | will do | 15:52 |
| Guest74470 | thanks anyway :) | 15:52 |
| GridCube | Guest74470, good lucks and report your findings if you do find a best solution i would like to know | 15:53 |
| xubuntu351 | Hi, I have a proplem during the install process where I get the following message "We're sorry; the installer crashed. After you close this window, we'll allow..." | 16:07 |
| GridCube | what release? | 16:08 |
| GridCube | did you check the iso? | 16:08 |
| xubuntu351 | 12.10 | 16:08 |
| GridCube | !md5 | 16:08 |
| ubottu | To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows | 16:08 |
| xubuntu351 | I will check it now. But I've had the same error twice. The first time was trying to instaqll on a normall HDD from a USB and the second time was trying again from a CD rom to my primary SSD. | 16:10 |
| GridCube | mmm maybe its another problem then, what computer is it? | 16:11 |
| xubuntu351 | It is an Acer Veriton S6710 | 16:14 |
| xubuntu351 | Also, I have installed successfully on another pc | 16:14 |
| xubuntu351 | Is it possible that the error is caused because of a connectivity issue? This machine uses a wireless connection. My other is hard wired. | 16:18 |
| GridCube | it might, but you can unplug it completely from the internet first if that bothers you, the install will use the cd files and will update later | 16:21 |
| aiena | GridCube: synaptics says that the installed version of evdev is 1.2.7.3 but I cannot find version 2.5.99 listed | 16:23 |
| aiena | snyway I can get it | 16:23 |
| aiena | *anyway | 16:23 |
| GridCube | thats a huge leap between versions there | 16:23 |
| aiena | yes | 16:24 |
| GridCube | and why do you need this newer version? | 16:24 |
| aiena | see http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/digimend/index.php?title=Tablet_support_status | 16:25 |
| aiena | specifcally KYE EasyPen M406 | 16:25 |
| aiena | in that link | 16:25 |
| GridCube | aiena, have you tried other graphic programs? like krita, mypaint, gimp, pinta? | 16:26 |
| aiena | I tried with gimp as base | 16:26 |
| aiena | krita states on its site that it only supports wacom | 16:26 |
| aiena | so that may not be a good testebed | 16:26 |
| aiena | *test bed | 16:26 |
| GridCube | !info evdev | 16:26 |
| ubottu | Package evdev does not exist in quantal | 16:26 |
| aiena | hmm | 16:27 |
| GridCube | !search evdev | 16:28 |
| ubottu | Found: | 16:28 |
| GridCube | !info xserver-xorg-input-evdev | 16:29 |
| ubottu | xserver-xorg-input-evdev (source: xserver-xorg-input-evdev): X.Org X server -- evdev input driver. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.7.3-0ubuntu2 (quantal), package size 33 kB, installed size 132 kB | 16:29 |
| aiena | wait one sec | 16:29 |
| aiena | hmm it say 1:2.7.0 in synaptics | 16:29 |
| aiena | does that mean 2.7.0 is the version number ? | 16:30 |
| GridCube | i dont know what that means | 16:30 |
| GridCube | probably yes | 16:30 |
| GridCube | !info linux-generic | 16:34 |
| ubottu | linux-generic (source: linux-meta): Complete Generic Linux kernel and headers. In component main, is optional. Version 3.5.0.27.43 (quantal), package size 1 kB, installed size 32 kB | 16:34 |
| aiena | GridCube: can you red http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/digimend/index.php?title=Tablet_setup_with_xf86-input-evdev and tell me what you understand from it ? | 16:37 |
| aiena | *read | 16:37 |
| aiena | maybe I have to alter the configuration file | 16:39 |
| aiena | and then it will work | 16:39 |
| aiena | but not sure | 16:39 |
| GridCube | :/ i dont know any of this xorg magic | 16:39 |
| aiena | (: | 16:39 |
| aiena | Well I guess I'll never get it working the way its supposed to but will keep trying | 16:40 |
| GridCube | aiena, maybe ask on #xorg ? give them all the info you gathered and that page especifically | 16:41 |
| aiena | thanks GridCube | 16:41 |
| === daim2k5 is now known as daim2k5_Zzz | ||
| aiena | GridCube: Whenever I use the sudo command to install a package it request my authentication in the terminal but whenever i try to type in anything it does not go into the terminal | 16:46 |
| aiena | this is weird | 16:46 |
| aiena | if i press ctrl+z it quits and input works normally again in terminal | 16:47 |
| GridCube | it should | 16:47 |
| GridCube | sudo doesnt change your user, its just for the running application | 16:47 |
| aiena | ok | 16:47 |
| aiena | I am installing wizardpen | 16:48 |
| aiena | it might fix my problem | 16:48 |
| aiena | http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/digimend/index.php?title=Tablet_setup_with_WizardPen | 16:48 |
| aiena | i have succeded uptill unzipping the tarball no the desktop | 16:48 |
| aiena | now I need to compile it | 16:49 |
| aiena | but not sure about the dependency bit | 16:49 |
| aiena | can you help | 16:49 |
| GridCube | if deps are unmet it will tell you | 16:49 |
| GridCube | read the README files | 16:50 |
| aiena | it states | 16:52 |
| aiena | 16:52 | |
| aiena | Packages to build you must have installed: | 16:52 |
| aiena | 16:52 | |
| aiena | sudo apt-get install xutils-dev xutils libx11-dev libxext-dev build-essential xautomation xinput xserver-xorg-dev | 16:52 |
| aiena | 16:52 | |
| aiena | but running the sudo command doesn;t work | 16:52 |
| aiena | I am on administrator login | 16:52 |
| aiena | how do I install the deps | 16:52 |
| aiena | synaptics ? | 16:53 |
| GridCube | adinistrator login? | 16:53 |
| GridCube | there is no such thing | 16:53 |
| aiena | administrator | 16:53 |
| aiena | hmm maybe not | 16:53 |
| aiena | theres one in windows I assumed it was so in linux too as i use the same authentication to install drivers etc | 16:54 |
| GridCube | aiena, sudo apt-get should work, unless you have another apt program locking the sources | 16:54 |
| aiena | it works untill it ask for my authetication | 16:54 |
| GridCube | its your password | 16:55 |
| aiena | then when i type any letter in terminal | 16:55 |
| GridCube | the one you use to login to the system everyday | 16:55 |
| aiena | it freezes over till i press ctrl+z | 16:55 |
| aiena | i can't input a thing into terminal | 16:55 |
| aiena | at that point | 16:55 |
| aiena | this is the problem | 16:55 |
| GridCube | when you type your password you dont see anything | 16:55 |
| GridCube | but its typing | 16:55 |
| GridCube | just hit enter after the password is entered | 16:56 |
| aiena | GridCube: ah it is hidden | 16:57 |
| aiena | thanks | 16:57 |
| aiena | should i unplug my tablet when istallingt dependencies and wizardpen ? | 16:57 |
| aiena | *installing | 16:58 |
| GridCube | dont see why you should | 16:58 |
| aiena | ok | 16:58 |
| aiena | dependencies are installing I am getting all the feedback in the terminal I'll inform you when its done installing | 16:59 |
| aiena | ok completed | 16:59 |
| GridCube | aiena, linux does have an "administrator" user, his name is "root" you use sudo to fake root | 17:01 |
| GridCube | !root | 17:01 |
| ubottu | Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo | 17:01 |
| aiena | ok | 17:01 |
| aiena | ls | 17:02 |
| aiena | ok | 17:02 |
| aiena | I am leaning more about the terminal from you thanksa lot | 17:03 |
| aiena | *learning | 17:03 |
| aiena | I am familiar with the dos shell but not the linux shell | 17:03 |
| GridCube | lol, after using a real terminal you will want to kill cmd | 17:04 |
| aiena | definitely | 17:05 |
| aiena | :P | 17:05 |
| aiena | linux terminal is way more powerful | 17:05 |
| GridCube | autocompletion and bash history have saved my life more than once | 17:05 |
| aiena | also dangerous though | 17:05 |
| GridCube | not really, if you dont use sudo | 17:05 |
| aiena | ok | 17:05 |
| aiena | GridCube: now I am supposed to run autogen.sh | 17:06 |
| aiena | do i run it with ./autogen.sh | 17:06 |
| GridCube | i would guess so, if thats what the README says | 17:06 |
| aiena | the readme does not say that this http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/digimend/index.php?title=Tablet_setup_with_WizardPen does under compiling section | 17:07 |
| aiena | maybe i have to chmod +x it | 17:07 |
| aiena | but i forgot if it is chmod+x autogen.sh | 17:07 |
| aiena | or chmod +x ./autogen.sh | 17:07 |
| aiena | or chmod +x /autogen.sh | 17:07 |
| aiena | what do you think just read the link | 17:08 |
| aiena | and tell me | 17:08 |
| aiena | they have this line ./autogen.sh --prefix=/usr | 17:08 |
| aiena | though i dont know what the prefix bit at the end means | 17:09 |
| GridCube | aiena, its the a makefile file there? | 17:10 |
| aiena | but is the --prefix=/usr needed | 17:11 |
| aiena | what does that bit mena | 17:11 |
| aiena | *mean | 17:11 |
| aiena | do i have to chmod +x autogen.sh | 17:11 |
| GridCube | it means if you want to change where the program will reside, in this case /usr | 17:12 |
| aiena | ok | 17:12 |
| knome | most probably not if the instructions do not say so. | 17:12 |
| aiena | the instructions on the website say so | 17:12 |
| aiena | so i think so it has to reside there | 17:12 |
| GridCube | do so then | 17:12 |
| aiena | GridCube: is that the correct syntax | 17:12 |
| GridCube | yes | 17:13 |
| GridCube | it will generate the makefile | 17:13 |
| aiena | GridCube: it says autoreconf not found | 17:14 |
| aiena | what does that mean ? | 17:14 |
| GridCube | !search autoreconf | 17:15 |
| ubottu | Found: | 17:15 |
| GridCube | !info build-essentials | 17:16 |
| ubottu | Package build-essentials does not exist in quantal | 17:16 |
| GridCube | whaaat | 17:16 |
| knome | !info build-essential | 17:16 |
| ubottu | build-essential (source: build-essential): Informational list of build-essential packages. In component main, is optional. Version 11.5ubuntu3 (quantal), package size 5 kB, installed size 37 kB | 17:16 |
| baizon | damn, he was faster :( | 17:17 |
| knome | hah, i even double-checked with apt-get show on a terminal. | 17:17 |
| baizon | i did with http://packages.ubuntu.com :> | 17:18 |
| aiena | grid | 17:18 |
| aiena | GridCube: | 17:18 |
| aiena | autoconf libtool pkg-config | 17:18 |
| aiena | The program 'autoconf' can be found in the following packages: | 17:18 |
| aiena | * autoconf | 17:18 |
| aiena | * autoconf2.13 | 17:18 |
| aiena | Try: sudo apt-get install <selected package> | 17:18 |
| aiena | i presume this means autoconf isnt there yet | 17:18 |
| knome | !pastebin | aiena | 17:18 |
| ubottu | aiena: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. | 17:18 |
| GridCube | lol i added an s | 17:19 |
| aiena | knome: it was short so thought I'd just list it here directly | 17:19 |
| GridCube | aiena, as said, you probably need build-essential | 17:20 |
| GridCube | i didnt say it tho | 17:20 |
| aiena | GridCube: you are right | 17:20 |
| aiena | it is listed on the website | 17:20 |
| aiena | but it waqs not listed in the readmen | 17:21 |
| aiena | i sudo built from the readme | 17:21 |
| aiena | it states build-essential is already the newest version | 17:22 |
| xubuntu481 | hi | 17:22 |
| GridCube | !hi | xubuntu481 | 17:23 |
| ubottu | xubuntu481: Hi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay! | 17:23 |
| aiena | GridCube: what is autorenconf ? | 17:23 |
| GridCube | i have not the slightiest idea | 17:24 |
| aiena | one sec | 17:24 |
| GridCube | !info autoconf | 17:24 |
| ubottu | autoconf (source: autoconf): automatic configure script builder. In component main, is optional. Version 2.69-1ubuntu1 (quantal), package size 554 kB, installed size 1889 kB | 17:24 |
| aiena | GridCube: see http://pastebin.com/q1NdsSCU | 17:24 |
| GridCube | have you already installed build-essential? | 17:25 |
| GridCube | sudo apt-get install build-essential | 17:26 |
| aiena | yes | 17:27 |
| aiena | when i sudo | 17:27 |
| aiena | it sates that I already have the latest version | 17:27 |
| aiena | and terminates | 17:27 |
| aiena | GridCube: http://pastebin.com/7gTyMFQ8 | 17:28 |
| aiena | GridCube: http://www.gnu.org/savannah-checkouts/gnu/autoconf/manual/autoconf-2.69/html_node/autoreconf-Invocation.html | 17:29 |
| aiena | autoreconf icalls autoconf | 17:29 |
| aiena | so and other things | 17:29 |
| aiena | *calls | 17:29 |
| GridCube | then sudo apt-get install autoconf | 17:29 |
| aiena | ok | 17:29 |
| aiena | ok installing | 17:30 |
| aiena | ok done installing | 17:30 |
| GridCube | try again | 17:31 |
| aiena | should i retry the .sh | 17:31 |
| aiena | ok | 17:31 |
| aiena | GridCube: http://pastebin.com/QbQDt34k | 17:32 |
| aiena | i presume i need to install the other components too for autoreconf | 17:33 |
| aiena | autoconf, autoheader, aclocal, automake, libtoolize, and autopoint | 17:33 |
| GridCube | yes | 17:33 |
| GridCube | all of them | 17:33 |
| aiena | these are called by autoreconf | 17:33 |
| antisober552 | Hi guys ive instslled xubuntu 13.04 looks great | 17:33 |
| aiena | ok doing | 17:33 |
| antisober552 | But the systems wirking good no freezes touch wood | 17:34 |
| GridCube | compiling does that kind of things aiena it does needs lots of things to work, thats why we all preffer .deb files where all the compiling was already done | 17:34 |
| * aiena nods | 17:34 | |
| aiena | I agree | 17:34 |
| GridCube | antisober552, :D excellent | 17:34 |
| * GridCube crossfingers for antisober552 | 17:34 | |
| antisober552 | The only thing is i cant get it to detect my wifi card | 17:35 |
| aiena | GridCube: ubuntu cant find the package autoheader needed by autoreconf | 17:37 |
| aiena | dont know what to do | 17:37 |
| rhin0 | is it wrong not to like regex | 17:39 |
| aiena | it cant find autoheader and libtoolize in http://www.gnu.org/savannah-checkouts/gnu/autoconf/manual/autoconf-2.69/html_node/autoreconf-Invocation.html | 17:40 |
| aiena | sigh | 17:40 |
| knome | aiena, they are probably in other packages, starting with lib*. you could also install intltool if that's what it's after. | 17:40 |
| aiena | one sec knome cal you have a look at http://pastebin.com/Sb2mkN5P | 17:41 |
| aiena | *can you have a ... | 17:42 |
| aiena | see line 14 onwards | 17:42 |
| knome | aiena, you can try to install the package libtool as well. | 17:42 |
| antisober552 | Okay can some one help me it looks like i will install my drivers for my wifi card as its not reading | 17:43 |
| aiena | knome: trying and will see | 17:43 |
| aiena | knome: it succeded but I made a mistake i forgot to add the --prefix=/usr | 17:45 |
| aiena | so how do i do what --prefix=/usr does manually | 17:45 |
| knome | just run the script again with that | 17:45 |
| knome | you have done nothing final/irreversible yet. | 17:46 |
| aiena | ok thanks | 17:46 |
| aiena | ok | 17:47 |
| aiena | now i should run the next 2 commands make | 17:47 |
| aiena | and sudo make install | 17:48 |
| aiena | right | 17:48 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Will the messaging menu ever come back to Xubuntu? | 17:48 |
| aiena | i think so everything is correct to this point | 17:48 |
| aiena | knome: is make irrevocable ? | 17:49 |
| knome | no. | 17:49 |
| baizon | SonikkuAmerica: yes, since xfce is working on a gtk3 port. In the worst case it should happen 2015 | 17:49 |
| aiena | what about make install | 17:49 |
| knome | that's somewhat more final. | 17:49 |
| aiena | ok | 17:50 |
| SonikkuAmerica | baizon: Guess that was a stupid question, because I knew XFCE was working on GTK+ 3 migration. | 17:50 |
| knome | there might be uninstallation instructions, but you probably want to see if what you build works first | 17:50 |
| aiena | ok | 17:50 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Then again, the only dumb question is the one that isn't asked... so... | 17:51 |
| baizon | SonikkuAmerica: well, else thats a question for #ubuntu, because they write the code :) | 17:51 |
| SonikkuAmerica | XD | 17:51 |
| knome | baizon, not really... they won't support GTK2. | 17:51 |
| knome | baizon, if it is going to be done, it's somebody that actually needs the GTK2 port. | 17:51 |
| baizon | knome: ok | 17:52 |
| SonikkuAmerica | MATE would, but that's kind of outta the league. | 17:52 |
| baizon | i think until then, xfce will be gtk3 :) | 17:52 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Soon enough it will... there's supposed to be GTK+ 3 forwards compat in 4.12, although it'll still be coded in GTK+ 2 | 17:53 |
| antisober552 | Hey guys do you think it could be my wifi card which is making ubuntu not boot or freezes the pc | 17:53 |
| baizon | antisober552: no | 17:53 |
| antisober552 | Cause when the wifi pci card is put on the system my pc does not load xubuntu but with it out xubuntu loads first time | 17:54 |
| GridCube | it might be faulty the | 17:56 |
| antisober552 | Just shut down pc pluged it in and no boot | 17:56 |
| GridCube | antisober552, maybe, just maybe, you have network boot enabled on your bios? | 17:57 |
| antisober552 | Oh good thinking | 17:57 |
| aiena | knome: is there a way to open a directory in thunar by typing /usr/lib for example like in windows | 17:59 |
| aiena | i can find the bar only icons | 17:59 |
| GridCube | thunar /path/to/dir | 18:00 |
| knome | aiena, view -> location selector -> toolbar style | 18:00 |
| aiena | knome: thanks a lot I am more comfortable this way | 18:00 |
| antisober552 | I cant see network boot in the bios | 18:01 |
| GridCube | then i dont know | 18:02 |
| aiena | brb - reboot | 18:02 |
| antisober552 | Umm the only other thing i can think off is that my power supply is not powerful to run everythink | 18:03 |
| antisober552 | But just took wifi card out and booted first time | 18:03 |
| antisober552 | Its wired ummm | 18:04 |
| antisober552 | Im gunna leave xubuntu running to see if it freezes cause i checked system required and my pc meets all requirement's | 18:05 |
| antisober552 | Okay im 100% sure i might have a faulty pci card | 18:28 |
| GridCube | C: yay! antisober552 | 18:29 |
| antisober552 | For 20 mins pc been fine plug the pci card in and no boot | 18:29 |
| antisober552 | Just pluged pci card out rebooted pc and boots on xubuntu first time | 18:30 |
| GridCube | C: | 18:32 |
| antisober552 | So what can i do to get this pc online though wifi | 18:32 |
| antisober552 | Can the card be unsuitible for ubuntu | 18:32 |
| GridCube | maybe try an usb network card | 18:33 |
| antisober552 | Lol i dont have any i brought this one off a friend | 18:34 |
| antisober552 | Umm might have to wait until payday to get one | 18:35 |
| antisober552 | Of all things why the wifi card | 18:35 |
| antisober552 | I also have a hdd problem but its not a problem as such | 18:36 |
| antisober552 | When i boot pc i get a disk error but restart the pc it goes away | 18:37 |
| rhin0 | glike I said .. ndiswrapper "" | 18:38 |
| rhin0 | wraps windows drivers for use in linux | 18:38 |
| rhin0 | so if the card doesn't have a linux driver | 18:38 |
| antisober552 | No the pc does not like the card at all | 18:38 |
| rhin0 | not even on windows | 18:39 |
| antisober552 | If i put the wifi card in the pc does not boot | 18:39 |
| rhin0 | get a usb wreiless dongle | 18:39 |
| rhin0 | i recommend for standard | 18:39 |
| rhin0 | netgear wg511 v2 | 18:39 |
| rhin0 | http://support.netgear.com/images/wg111v2_tcm122-54169.gif | 18:39 |
| rhin0 | or 3 | 18:39 |
| rhin0 | that thing ^ is about as standard anc compatible as you can get | 18:39 |
| rhin0 | works 100pc with xubuntu | 18:40 |
| rhin0 | they're cheap | 18:40 |
| antisober552 | I was thinking maybe getting a wifi dongle + 3g so i can top it up and use it when im out | 18:40 |
| rhin0 | $5.90 | 18:41 |
| SonikkuAmerica | In which dollar? | 18:41 |
| * rhin0 has 2 | 18:41 | |
| rhin0 | US | 18:41 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Oh good... | 18:41 |
| rhin0 | i got one from china | 18:41 |
| SonikkuAmerica | I have a 300-300 USB WNA I got for $45 | 18:42 |
| rhin0 | http://thumbs4.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/mpFdd2LAih104D0O9uaX5gA.jpg | 18:42 |
| antisober552 | Im not going 4 weeks without wifi on my pc | 18:42 |
| rhin0 | router | 18:42 |
| antisober552 | I cant believe out of all the things it could of been it had to be wifi card | 18:44 |
| antisober552 | But loving xubuntu 13.04 | 18:45 |
| MonoLinux | hola, alguien sabe cuanta ram usa Xubuntu sin intefaz grafica? | 18:54 |
| antisober552 | Hey guys i have a spare motherboard its pretty much the same is i already got installed in my pc the only problem is that i beleive it has a bios problem | 18:57 |
| antisober552 | Do you think i should try that board | 18:57 |
| tethtibis | what kind of problem? | 18:58 |
| tethtibis | have you tried removing the cmos battery and booting it to resolve the issue with it? | 18:58 |
| tethtibis | or have you tried re-flashing the bios to remove the issue? | 18:58 |
| antisober552 | Well you boot this board up it gets so far then shuts down and | 18:59 |
| tethtibis | or, if you can actually access the bios, returning it to defaults? | 18:59 |
| antisober552 | No cause i dont have the skills to do that | 18:59 |
| tethtibis | oh. | 18:59 |
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| antisober552 | I can access the bios using defualt settings does not work | 19:00 |
| tethtibis | well, if it's shutting down after a certain time, it could be related to heat or power. | 19:00 |
| antisober552 | Ummmm | 19:00 |
| tethtibis | heat can be resolved by adding thermal paste to the heat sink on the processor usually, | 19:01 |
| antisober552 | You get passed the bios then it just shuts off | 19:01 |
| tethtibis | and if it's a power issue, try running it with all the expansion cards removed. | 19:01 |
| tethtibis | yeah, that sounds like a heat or power issue, not bios. | 19:01 |
| antisober552 | Okay thanks man you guys are really healpful | 19:02 |
| tethtibis | if it were a bios issue, it would generally give you some error, either on the screen, or audibly. | 19:02 |
| antisober552 | I like my other board more aswell | 19:02 |
| tethtibis | np, hope it helps. | 19:02 |
| tethtibis | lol. | 19:02 |
| tethtibis | you can get thermal paster from any computer store or best buy for like 10 bucks. | 19:02 |
| tethtibis | *thermal paste* | 19:03 |
| tethtibis | I'd look into that before power supply. | 19:03 |
| tethtibis | heat is generally the first thing to cause that. | 19:03 |
| antisober552 | I have thermal paste from fixing xbox 360 i did that as a little repair plase but | 19:04 |
| antisober552 | Other thing my old board does not have sata where the board im using atm does | 19:04 |
| antisober552 | Which i found out today while i striped my board | 19:05 |
| antisober552 | Okay looking at my processor theres a pin missing | 19:06 |
| tethtibis | well, that's no good. :OP | 19:06 |
| antisober552 | Nope | 19:06 |
| antisober552 | I do have a new processor | 19:07 |
| tethtibis | i guess you found your problem, though. that's good. :O) | 19:07 |
| antisober552 | The on board battery is in the wrong way | 19:07 |
| Pici | Surely this sounds like a better topic for ##hardware than #xubuntu | 19:08 |
| tethtibis | that only causes the cmos settings not to save, no biggie in this instance. | 19:08 |
| antisober552 | I know | 19:08 |
| antisober552 | I know this is of topic guys | 19:09 |
| antisober552 | But i love doing this sort off stuff | 19:10 |
| tethtibis | honestly doesn't hurt my feelings. it's not like we were discussing anything else. :OP | 19:11 |
| antisober552 | Lol | 19:12 |
| well_laid_lawn | I kept opening this channel thinking someone needed help but it was just random chatter... | 19:12 |
| well_laid_lawn | that's the point of #offtopic | 19:13 |
| antisober552 | Hey dude it was a bad proccessor | 19:27 |
| aiena | Anybody who uses a genius tablet with xubuntu on this channel ? | 19:38 |
| antisober552 | Even the pci card works on that board :-) | 19:40 |
| antisober552 | So i how have 2 pc without hdd one with out ram but apart from that i got 3 of my old pc working i dont mind spending out on new ram and hdd | 19:42 |
| well_laid_lawn | !ot | 19:43 |
| ubottu | #xubuntu is the Xubuntu support channel, #xubuntu-devel for discussion regarding development of Xubuntu, and #xubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome! | 19:43 |
| carrera | Greetings Everyone! :) | 20:23 |
| tethtibis | hello. :O) | 20:26 |
| aiena | is there any virtual audio driver in linux which can be used like stereo mix to stream all audio playing from the soundcard to audacity ? | 21:17 |
| carrera | Hi | 21:30 |
| Chaser | Hello, is there a cheese like webcam application suitable for xubuntu ? I don't want to pull in all the dependencies for cheese. | 21:30 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Chaser: Why not? | 21:31 |
| carrera | how can I change the Settings->Window Manager->Keyboard shortcuts? | 21:31 |
| SonikkuAmerica | carrera: Hit the green + sign near the bottom. | 21:32 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Or click the shortcut you wish to change. | 21:32 |
| carrera | SonikkuAmerica, I don't have it. All I have is Clear and Reset to Defaults | 21:32 |
| Chaser | SonikkuAmerica, It wants to install various gnome stuff. | 21:32 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Chaser: GNOME stuff? Or GTK stuff? | 21:33 |
| carrera | SonikkuAmerica, nothing happens when I click the shortcuts either | 21:34 |
| Chaser | SonikkuAmerica, I am guessing GNOME as the extra packages it wants to install are brasero* gstreamer* some evolution packages apart from others. | 21:34 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Chaser: Are they in "Suggested packages" or directly under "The following packages will be installed"? | 21:35 |
| SonikkuAmerica | carrera: Weird. | 21:35 |
| Chaser | SonikkuAmerica, the latter | 21:35 |
| carrera | yup! :( | 21:36 |
| xubuntu996 | Just reinstalled xubuntu 12.10 and the Google Play Music website (in Google Chrome) just plays way too fast, Any suggestions? | 21:36 |
| SonikkuAmerica | carrera: Ummm... try reinstalling xfce4-settings-manager? | 21:36 |
| SonikkuAmerica | xubuntu996: Too fast? What does it use to play? | 21:37 |
| xubuntu996 | It plays 1.5 times faster than normal. | 21:38 |
| carrera | SonikkuAmerica, I'm on Version 4.8, distributed by Xubuntu | 21:38 |
| carrera | SonikkuAmerica, which I installed on ubuntu 12.04 | 21:39 |
| carrera | SonikkuAmerica, but I have the same problem in Xubuntu 12.10 running on VirtualBox | 21:39 |
| xubuntu996 | Thanks. Bedtime for me. | 21:39 |
| SonikkuAmerica | xubuntu996: I didn't even finish! O_O | 21:40 |
| SonikkuAmerica | carrera: It works for me on Ubuntu Studio 12.10 running XFCE 4.10 | 21:40 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Chaser: Did you try Google? | 21:42 |
| SonikkuAmerica | carrera: You might ask in #xfce | 21:42 |
| SonikkuAmerica | carrera: They might know a thing or 2 | 21:42 |
| carrera | I tried App Menu->Settings-?Window Manager to no avail | 21:42 |
| SonikkuAmerica | carrera: You're double-clicking, right? | 21:43 |
| carrera | same thing as App Menu->Settings->Settings Manager->Window Manager | 21:43 |
| carrera | Duh! | 21:44 |
| carrera | SonikkuAmerica, THANKS! | 21:44 |
| Chaser | SonikkuAmerica, yup, vlc mplayer etc seem to be the alterative applications. | 21:44 |
| Chaser | SonikkuAmerica, vlc works ! cool. | 21:45 |
| SonikkuAmerica | carrera: Sometimes even I overrun common sense. | 21:45 |
| carrera | SonikkuAmerica, :) | 21:45 |
| carrera | SonikkuAmerica, I think it's because u only have to click on the shortcut in Gnome | 21:45 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Chaser: Didn't know it did, but I (gasp) don't have a webcam on this lappie. | 21:45 |
| carrera | I want to change the workspace navigation shortcuts | 21:46 |
| carrera | it currently has <Control><Alt>Up | 21:46 |
| Chaser | SonikkuAmerica, yup apparently doing vlc v412:///dev/video0 brings up the webcam video stream. | 21:46 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Awesome. | 21:47 |
| carrera | and I want to change it to just <Control>Up | 21:47 |
| carrera | but when hit <Control>Up, it shows as <Primary>Up | 21:47 |
| carrera | what's <Primary>? | 21:47 |
| carrera | does that for both <Control> keys | 21:47 |
| SonikkuAmerica | carrera: That is correct (and intended) | 21:48 |
| carrera | okay, but why do they call it <Primary> and not <Control>? | 21:49 |
| SonikkuAmerica | carrera: I think there's an article on that somewhere... | 21:52 |
| carrera | ok | 21:52 |
| carrera | I'll Google it | 21:52 |
| carrera | what was the green button u were talking about? | 21:53 |
| SonikkuAmerica | carrera: That was to add a shortcut. | 21:53 |
| carrera | why don't I have that? | 21:53 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Settings > Settings Manager > Keyboard > Shortcuts.... | 21:54 |
| carrera | thanks | 21:54 |
| antisober552 | hi guys so ive managed to fix all my problems and have my wifi pci card installed aswell i just want to thanks everyone for helping me out over the last few days | 21:56 |
| antisober552 | ive even got my dvd-rw to work again | 21:57 |
| xyzone | no prob | 21:57 |
| antisober552 | im running xubuntu 13.04 and its alwsome | 21:59 |
| antisober552 | one more thing i need help with i was told about this program but cant remember whats its called its so i can run php | 22:06 |
| antisober552 | i think it was called php cli | 22:06 |
| genii-around | Probably php5-cli | 22:08 |
| antisober552 | thats sound right | 22:08 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Grrr... My Logitech USB headphones now cause sound to become extinct! | 22:09 |
| David-A | antisober552: tips: if you had searched for php cli in Synaptic or Software Center you would probably have recognized the package name in the result list. | 22:13 |
| antisober552 | i couldnt find it but i fould it now | 22:14 |
| David-A | ok fair | 22:14 |
| carrera | antisober552, have u tried any other flavors like lubuntu? | 22:16 |
| carrera | I really like Gnome Classic but don't like the Unity and zeitgeist | 22:16 |
| carrera | so I'm looking for something lighter like xfce and lxde | 22:17 |
| antisober552 | im going to | 22:17 |
| antisober552 | i would go for xubuntu 12.10 | 22:17 |
| carrera | why not 13.04? | 22:18 |
| carrera | it's in Beta | 22:18 |
| antisober552 | im using 13.04 and working great | 22:18 |
| carrera | there u go | 22:18 |
| antisober552 | the 13.04 is | 22:18 |
| carrera | did u run 12.10 as well? | 22:18 |
| carrera | has 13.04 changed a lot from 12.10? | 22:18 |
| carrera | I'm running xubuntu 12.10 on VirtualBox | 22:19 |
| antisober552 | but i did worked really well | 22:19 |
| carrera | thanks | 22:19 |
| antisober552 | 13.04 is really nice | 22:19 |
| carrera | let us know what u think of lubuntu | 22:20 |
| carrera | did u try the ubuntu with Gnome classic? | 22:20 |
| antisober552 | your welcome im gunna try lubuntu soon as i already have it on usb | 22:20 |
| antisober552 | no | 22:20 |
| carrera | I find the Gnome windows much nicer | 22:21 |
| David-A | carrera: the Mate desktop looks very much like Gnome2, if you liked that. (I have only tried it briefly, don't know if it is good enough) | 22:21 |
| antisober552 | i saw picture of it and thought it didnt look as clean as xubuntu | 22:21 |
| carrera | windows, menus and the general look and feel I should say | 22:21 |
| carrera | David-A, thank u sir! | 22:21 |
| carrera | I really like Gnome2 | 22:21 |
| carrera | but I can live with other stuff too | 22:22 |
| carrera | I used to work on xvwm on Solaris for 5 years | 22:22 |
| carrera | 6 really, from '99 to '05 | 22:23 |
| carrera | err, I think it was fvwm | 22:24 |
| antisober552 | [ERROR] Please install "autoconf" anyone know how to fix that | 22:25 |
| genii-around | install autoconf ? | 22:27 |
| carrera | David-A, does Mint come with MATE? | 22:28 |
| David-A | carrera: yes, but have you looked if it is in (x)ubuntu's repository? | 22:29 |
| carrera | no | 22:29 |
| carrera | here is why | 22:29 |
| carrera | currently I'm running Ubuntu 12.04.02 on nice 18.4" Toshiba Qosmio X500 | 22:30 |
| carrera | I have 2 SanDisk 480 Gb SSDs | 22:30 |
| carrera | naturally I've RAID 0 | 22:31 |
| xyzone | what's the fail rate on ssds? | 22:43 |
| David-A | xyzone: that is not an xubuntu question, but i'v had an eeepc with SSDs for 4 years. havn't noticed any problem with them. | 22:52 |
| David-A | xyzone: as for rotating disks, there should be data sheets with meassures of expected lifetime and read error rates. | 22:55 |
| David-A | xyzone: is there anything special that concerns you? | 22:56 |
| xyzone | no David-A thanks | 22:56 |
| David-A | xyzone: web sites that sell stuff usually have comment fields where you can read customer's opinions about each product. (I'v read some SSDs have had problems) | 22:59 |
| carrera | I could have gone with Ubuntu Alternate but I went with the Server edition cause I wanted to install just Gnome Classic | 23:03 |
| carrera | sorry, I was on the phone with my sister | 23:03 |
| carrera | but after I installed the Gnome shell, I realized that I HAD to install Unity too! :( | 23:04 |
| carrera | now, I have 2 problems | 23:05 |
| carrera | I like Ubuntu but I do NOT like Unity and zeitgeit | 23:06 |
| carrera | *zeitgeist | 23:06 |
| carrera | and I like to have RAID 0 | 23:07 |
| carrera | cause I get great speed with my Core i7 and 1666 MHz bus | 23:07 |
| carrera | server + Gnome is not an option, cause I have to install Unity too | 23:08 |
| carrera | so I might as well install the Alternate ed | 23:08 |
| pleia2 | can you folks take non-Xubuntu support talk to #xubuntu-offtopic, please? :) | 23:08 |
| carrera | this is xubuntu talk | 23:09 |
| carrera | wait | 23:09 |
| carrera | but I only saw the desktop editions in both xubuntu and lubuntu reps | 23:09 |
| carrera | I'm on XFCE 4.8 right now, and xchat suddenly closed on me | 23:11 |
| David-A | carrera: you installed X and it installs Y,Z by dependency. if you uninstalled X and want to uninstall Y,Z as well, then in Synaptic try select Status & auto removable, or sudo apt-get autoremove | 23:12 |
| carrera | does anyone know what key kills a window? | 23:12 |
| carrera | David-A, actually installing Gnome didn't install Unity | 23:15 |
| carrera | I had to install it so I would get a graphical login screen | 23:15 |
| carrera | does xubuntu have an alternate edition? | 23:17 |
| carrera | so I can configure RAID 0 | 23:17 |
| Guest19 | Is it possible to remove all the installed software without breaking Xfce? | 23:51 |
| SonikkuAmerica | XFCE IS software. | 23:51 |
| Guest19 | I mea some of the apps | 23:52 |
| SonikkuAmerica | You can remove the apps without breaking XFCE... | 23:52 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Some will knock off xubuntu-desktop but that's just a pointer package, no problem there | 23:52 |
| Guest19 | good to know' just want to try a | 23:53 |
| Guest19 | very stripped version | 23:53 |
| SonikkuAmerica | k | 23:53 |
| Guest19 | had a problem once with a buntu distro and I removed the evolutution email and the DB and it broke Gnome | 23:54 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Evolution is part of GNOME... you don't uninstall it. XD | 23:55 |
| Guest19 | found that out the hard way | 23:55 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Thunar is about the only XFCE component that doesn't start with XF | 23:55 |
| SonikkuAmerica | And Orage | 23:55 |
| Guest19 | all i want on the lappy is some office stuff vlc and a VM | 23:56 |
| SonikkuAmerica | So don't remove Thunar, Orage or anything that starts with XF and you'll be fine. | 23:57 |
| Guest19 | great thanks | 23:57 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Also don't remove ARandR | 23:57 |
| SonikkuAmerica | That manages your screen. | 23:58 |
| Guest19 | Is there any docs that state what is part of Xfce? | 23:58 |
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