[00:10] i just bought a new laser printer, after downloading the drivers from http://www.support.xerox.com/support/phaser-3040/downloads/enin.html?operatingSystem=linux&fileLanguage=en_GB it get recognized and its on lsusb it shows as Bus 002 Device 018: ID 0924:3cf9 Xerox and the printer settings says its there too, using this URI usb://Xerox/Phaser%203040?serial=3179006196 , however after trying to run the test print i get an error and this is th [00:10] e CUPS log http://pastebin.com/gr1wmkjq [00:18] i get "Filter failed" on the cups log [00:27] rebooting did nothing [01:30] so, anyone knows some CUPS? [01:33] sure [01:34] i just bought a new laser printer, after downloading the drivers from http://www.support.xerox.com/support/phaser-3040/downloads/enin.html?operatingSystem=linux&fileLanguage=en_GB it get recognized and its on lsusb it shows as Bus 002 Device 018: ID 0924:3cf9 Xerox and the printer settings says its there too, using this URI usb://Xerox/Phaser%203040?serial=3179006196 , however after trying to run the test print i get an error and this is th [01:34] e CUPS log http://pastebin.com/gr1wmkjq [01:35] the printer queue in cups says "filter failed" [01:36] i have an epson inkjet printer in the same usb-hub and it works perfectly [01:46] :( [01:47] not getting any answer gives me lots of anxiety [02:47] no luck [02:47] i cant figure this out [02:49] GridCube: are there other drivers? try the most generic one you can [02:49] i cant seem to find generics [02:50] GridCube: i just force them in the GUI [02:50] GridCube: the add-a-printer GUI.. i havent used the actual CUPS web interface in a while [02:51] yes [02:51] im using that [02:59] :( [02:59] why [02:59] i dont understand [02:59] :/ [02:59] theres even a .deb package... [03:01] interesting... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2136163 [03:04] Anyone know how to set up bitlbee? [03:04] oh, wait...maybe it's working [03:04] nvm :) [03:04] holstein, yes, thats my exact problem [03:04] but just like me, no one answered [03:09] well [03:09] this is one of the reasons why i understand why people hate linux [03:10] and even more when this is just a printer, if something linux should do office stuff better than no one [03:10] ggggggggggggggggrr === bazhang_ is now known as bazhang [09:20] Greetings! :) [09:21] Hello! [09:21] does xubuntu desktop support RAID? [09:22] I had to install the Ubuntu server to setup RAID on my laptop [09:23] carrera: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID [09:24] baizon, thank u sir! :) [09:27] does xubuntu include zeitgeist? [09:28] carrera: not by default [09:28] im using it with "synapse" [09:29] I don't want it [09:30] I tried to remove it from Ubuntu 12.04 + Gnome and it messed up my desktop [09:31] carrera: because without it, dash wont work [09:31] ... and unity. [09:31] I knew about unity [09:31] carrera: but to your question, xubuntu uses xfce which isnt usint zeitgeist at all [09:31] but I didn't think it would break Gnome [09:32] mind u, I did a apt-get remove zeitgeist* [09:32] carrera: it does not, but ubuntu is using gnome + unity [09:32] and I said, "Yes" to remove all matching packages [09:32] ou ok :) [09:32] then you removed all dependencies :> [09:32] which broke your desktop [09:32] yes sir! :) [09:35] is that why I couldn't get Gnome running without installing unity on my Ubuntu Server 12.04 [09:37] baizon, I really like Gnome but I don't want to have to install Unity just to run Gnome [09:37] any suggestions? [09:39] http://www.itworld.com/software/272614/use-gnome-classic-ubuntu-1204 [09:40] carrera, % [09:40] ^ rather [09:40] packetfrog, thanks! :) [09:40] * packetfrog passes the thanks on 2 google [09:40] :) [09:42] which version did Ubuntu go Unity only btw? [09:43] 11? [09:43] i'm sticking to 10.04 because the next lts last time I tried it (4 months ago) .. was unstable to the point of locking up [09:43] I am not moving off 10.04 [09:43] the next LTS [09:43] 12.04 worked fine for me. [09:43] and a million other people [09:43] I have installed 12.10 server edition, and the gnome3 packages on top [09:43] 12.04 worked fine for me too [09:43] works perfectly [09:44] i'll stick to it for now .. my options are to try the next LTS again or go to centos [09:44] I like Xubuntu. Ktnx. [09:44] i've evaluated many linuxi ... I like centos [09:44] centos is not an option [09:44] Pensacola, did u have to install unity too? [09:44] thats just silly [09:44] I know its not ubuntu - but to go forward [09:44] no, I did not install ubuntu-desktop [09:44] For a daily desktop ? [09:44] i like centos -- i've only run fedora mandriva ubuntu [09:45] rhin0, ^ [09:45] yeah for a daily desktop [09:45] redhat [09:45] just a sec, let me search the correct package [09:45] good luck with that [09:45] why can't it be a "daily desktop" packetfrog [09:45] I just tried it out for a week and it was chit. [09:45] just install the gnome package [09:45] well It can obviously [09:45] but it is not any funy [09:45] im still getting updates on 10.04 :) [09:45] fun* jesus I cant type laying down [09:46] I installed 12.04 Server and Gnome Shell but I had to install Unity to get it start at boot [09:47] it installed lightdm with the gnome package, so no problem with that here [09:51] :> [09:51] lightdm? [09:52] lightdm is the login manager, sort of :) [09:53] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LightDM [09:53] I'm confused now [09:53] there's an image of on the page [09:53] the caption is LightDM in Ubuntu 12.04 with its default Unity Greeter front-end [09:54] well, it uses gdm in xubuntu, it's in the list [09:54] does LightDM use the dreaded unity greeter? [09:54] you can choose :) [09:54] gdm? [09:54] but I can't remember the command to switch if you have multiple installed [09:55] do u guys live on the west coast? [09:56] it's almost 3 am here in Vancouver [09:57] i do [09:57] I'm going to bed now but I'll be back with more questions tomorrow [09:57] im below u [09:57] Seattle? [09:57] 5 to 3 actually [09:57] portland [09:57] 2:57:50 to be exact [09:57] lol [09:57] ;) [09:58] night [09:58] that's my OCPD [09:58] I was trying not to be exact for once, and u caught me [09:59] I live in the netherlands :) [09:59] cool [09:59] I've been to the Netherlands [09:59] I stayed at the [10:00] American Hotel in Amsterdam [10:00] cheeseheads ftw! :D [10:00] ftw? [10:01] for the win [10:01] baizon, thanks [10:01] cheeseheads? [10:01] but guys, this is a support channel, if you wanna talk offtopic you can do this in xubuntu-offtopic [10:01] sure [10:01] i mean #xubuntu-offtopic [10:02] thanks baizon, didn't know about #xubuntu-offtopic [10:08] Hi im looking for a lightweight ubuntu dm [10:12] antisober552: dm [10:14] Lightweight ubuntu distro [10:14] antisober552: Xubuntu, Lubuntu [10:14] try them [10:14] lubuntu [10:14] is the lighter (than xubuntu) [10:15] lubuntu = xubuntu lite [10:15] Lubuntu does not load for me [10:15] what have you tried rloading it off .. maybe try a CD [10:15] I have xubuntu but it freezes my pc [10:16] i've found 10.04 to be rock solid to the extent that I have not had a freezeup in 3 years [10:16] Xubuntu 10.04 ? [10:16] I am sure that the new LTS (long term support) release, will have similar reliability [10:16] yah [10:17] i love it man ... its fantasstic [10:17] Cause i have the 12.04 installed [10:17] Lts [10:17] tbh 4 months ago I was gettin glockups with it [10:17] seriously [10:17] also bugs [10:17] IMO .. as software gets o;der it decays [10:17] Okay i will try xubuntu 10.04 [10:17] I may be right in expressing an opinion, that 10.04 is a stabler release [10:18] thing is tho (aintisober) [10:18] its out of support now [10:18] Or should i try lubuntu 10.04 [10:18] this month [10:18] I dont get what that means [10:18] no idea .. haven't tried it have only tried the later lubuntu [10:18] supported as in "updates" . [10:18] supported by canonical .. with patches [10:18] Ok [10:18] seriously -- running xubuntu 10.04 now is like running win xp [10:19] if you were into windows (retchesp) [10:19] i retch gaaah. [10:19] i wasn't that impressed to be getting complete lockups with the lates xubuntU lts [10:19] backed away off it [10:19] Yeah ivehad windows xp installed all my time of having this pcand im kinda board with it so i thought about ubuntu [10:20] xubuntu gives you a traditional desktop [10:20] ubuntu now has gone more like apple [10:20] Yeah [10:20] I'm sick of people changing an OS completely every few years -- I walked off ub ujntu because of that (when they went to unity) [10:21] thats why I don't go near windows -- look @ the difference now between win 7 and win 8 [10:21] they are throwing new paradigms at their poor sap users for marketing reasons [10:21] that marketing reason being, that they need to develop a mobile platform [10:21] Oh i know win 7 was okay but win 8 is bad i hate it [10:21] because currently microsoft is as good as dead mobile (market share) [10:23] So i dont care if i cant update i just want a pc which runs really fast on a diffent os [10:23] you'll find that xubuntu is far less bloated than micorosft product [10:23] thanks for all the help guys. see u tomorrow! :) [10:23] its small [10:23] i load this on a 500gb disk and its 1% usage upon install [10:24] Soim gunna download xubuntu 10.04 as i like the xubuntu 12.04 look [10:24] I think you can upgrade xfce on 10.04 [10:24] the xfce 4.2 (new release) which is on 12.04 [10:24] is more luxurious [10:24] it is very nice really [10:24] That one thing i wo7ld want to update [10:25] I set up plenty of panel applets [10:25] all I need [10:25] right click on panel ..set up blank pannel applet (for anything) [10:25] pure utility [10:25] * rhin0 has many setup [10:26] Umm where can i download xubuntu 10.04 [10:26] ill give u the link for the iso brb [10:26] Okay thx [10:26] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/10.04/release/ [10:26] xubuntu-10.04.2-desktop-amd64.iso [10:26] for 64 bit -- "dessktop" [10:27] plain install [10:27] "alternate" .. is a lower graphics install [10:27] I need the intel one [10:27] desktop install gives you a full gui on install [10:27] xubuntu-10.04.2-desktop-i386.iso [10:27] i386 = intel (non 64 bit) [10:27] Okay [10:27] xubuntu-10.04.2-alternate-i386.iso <- alternatively (low graphics install) (low resource install) [10:28] you download the iso [10:28] then use your cd burner [10:28] no idew wht it is on windows [10:28] or on ubuntu I personally use "sudo usb-creator-gtk" to blank and write the iso to a usb key [10:28] works fine [10:28] thats the most basic working tool to write iso images to a usb key (IMO) [10:29] both methods (cd or usb) give you a bootable "live" issue of xubuntu [10:29] which will connect, booted off a cd or usb key [10:29] when you have install .. be sure to set up "software sources" [10:29] "applications > system > software sources" [10:30] Well i do it of usb would that be fine [10:30] and tick the boxes on the tab "other softrware" for "canonical" [10:30] Or would it be best off cd [10:30] to make sure your repositiory is up to date use sudo apt-get update [10:30] "sudo .. " etc [10:30] Yeah [10:30] then when it's all updated [10:31] after you've clicked on to get the 200mb of updates it'll signal you with [10:31] then, you can download the drivers it knows you need [10:31] if you have hardware that doesn't have a linux driver right now [10:31] say a comms card [10:31] Okay dude thx for your help [10:31] you can use "ndiswrapper" (plenty info out there) .. to "wrap" a proprietary windows driver .. so the dfvice is useable on linux, using the windows driver [10:32] then .... .. you can hit the thing with a SLEDGEHAMMER multiple times and it will not break (10.04 is so robust IMO) [10:32] I have a wifi pci card will that be picked up at start [10:32] therres good sites for linux wireless compatibility, driver sources .. at the most you have to go to your hardware site [10:32] simplest solution IMO is to use a wireless usb key [10:32] Or will i need the drivera [10:33] say a netgear WG511 ... totally, absolutely compatible [10:33] xubuntu picks up hardware like that automatically [10:33] say a "belkin" wireless usb key [10:33] buy the most common (buy the cheapes) .. its like having a ford escort [10:33] all works [10:34] Okay thx [10:34] nothing faster in this game at a certain level .. all you want a comms card/key to do is work [10:34] and they all work the same [10:34] np [10:35] I like mine to be hackable [10:35] so i can look at your packets [10:35] To be fair ever since i replaced my hdd master sleve xubuntu 12.04 runs well [10:35] >|:D [10:35] Touch wood [10:35] ^ Packet samurai face. [10:36] packefrog must be a nunja leet haxxor [10:36] No, Im not chinese. [10:36] >:(* [12:21] hello [12:22] hey packetfrog you there? [12:24] can anyone help me with TinyCore ? [12:26] I'm new on linux and dont know how to install stuff on TinyCore [12:27] kerl: This channel is for Xubuntu support only. We don't support other distros. Try #tinycorelinux or ##linux [12:27] kerl, this is xubuntu support. see tiny core 's page for support options [12:28] thanks it's just i talked to someone about that distro yesterday [13:30] Hi gridcube [13:31] hi antisober552 [13:31] That os u said about didnt load [13:32] Mageia [13:32] was a long shot [13:33] Yeah i guess but ive changed my master sleeve for the hdd and xubuntu has not crashed as much as before [13:34] Hi rhin0 [13:35] hi antisober552 [13:36] Ive had to put xubuntu on to a dvd and bootit that way since i dont that the installing it is working im about 75\% thought the setup [13:36] #1 issue for getting xubuntu up and running is connection (obviously) [13:36] yeah - dvd will be faster [13:36] Im still installing it to the hard drive [13:37] Ive not even got togetting it connected to theinternet [13:39] antisober552: master sleeve?.. btw., (x)ubuntu 13.04 is pretty slick (still just beta 2, should be coming out April 25th) [13:39] oh you meant USB? [13:40] the live session connects to the internet [13:40] kgb, he mean to "slave" [13:40] Yeah sorry [13:41] It does not happen as much as it did but on 12.04 the pc just freezes and i cant seem to find out why so im going to 10.04 [13:41] antisober552: sometimes.. the CD will work - rather than the DVD - and vice versa, btw. [13:42] had that happen on this machine here, in the past [13:44] Ive had window xp ,vista and win 7 on this pc and never happend once i had ubuntu install as well but it was laggy but never freezed but since i wipe my hdd and installed xubuntu 12.04 i get the pc freeze at random [13:45] So im installing 10.04 to see if i have the problem on this version [13:45] Then i might try the beta [13:48] did you make some empty space and let the installer "install along side of windows" or did you partition yourself.. could be that there's a mistake there MAYBE [13:48] bc i really haven't had a single problem since (x)ubuntu 12.04 [13:49] No xubuntu as a clean install [13:49] oh [13:49] :( [13:49] I got board with windows so i gotrid of it [13:49] hehe cool! [13:50] btw., with Sandy bridge (and higher), there is CPU virtualization to run windows within the oracle vm for example [13:50] And ilike the fact 6hat xubuntu looks so clean [13:50] yea XFCE rly came a long way :)) [13:51] ^^ there's a BIOS option to turn on virtualization [13:51] *uefi bios [13:51] The only problem i have is that i have an iphone and that need itunes 11 [13:52] right, i downloaded windows xp 64-bit and using that for some apps; works pretty flawlessly [13:52] *xp 64-bit sp2 [13:52] .. not 2 bother with Wine [13:52] Yeah i was gunna try and keep to on os if i can [13:53] sure, this isn't dual-booting; oracle vm runs it as a file [13:53] Ive had wine before on ubuntu and it never worked with itunes [13:53] Okay will it run on ubuntu [13:54] https://www.virtualbox.org/ (and there's a plugin, for hardware) [13:54] Okay well xubuntu is still installing [13:54] i get my ipod mini updating from some ubungu prog [13:55] "VirtualBox 4.2.12 Oracle VM VirtualBox Extension Pack" is what's needed... [13:55] Okay thxs [13:55] sure :) [13:55] one sec, i will find the link to optimize the image file as well [13:55] that gives you usb [13:55] This group is so helpful at times [13:55] the virtualbox from the site > the virtualbox from synaptic (ubuntu package) [13:56] Rhin0 i need help]it installed but i got a message up for the grub-pc [13:56] here, this topic isn't bad.. i was able to cut-down the initial install from over 5GB, to under 4GB (after defragmenting with Raxco perfectdisk and compacting) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1464248 [13:57] grub = bootloader [13:57] just hit return [13:57] No its says [13:57] rhin0: yeah, it's for USB, good call [13:57] (he will need that) [13:57] Install the grub boot loader to the master boot record [13:57] Yew or no [13:58] nah, imo, it's not necessary; but it matters in some cases [13:58] strange it doesn't ask me that, on default install [13:59] So yes or no ? [13:59] not sure!..:) [13:59] Rhin0 ? [13:59] what [14:00] yeah [14:00] mbr [14:00] yes [14:00] Okay [14:00] if you want to blow away windows [14:00] ie. [14:00] you are not installing side by side [14:00] is it a clean install of linux onto machine [14:00] nothing else [14:00] if so "yes" to that [14:00] andrzejr, yes [14:00] antisober552, [14:00] yes [14:01] i thin khes got the alternative install [14:01] (maybe make sure it's going to sda - to the correct hdd if you have more than one plugged in) [14:01] going [14:04] Okay its not booting [14:05] blah how come, no grub showing up? [14:05] Nope [14:05] :( [14:05] so you have more than 1 HDD plugged in? [14:06] I only have one hdd [14:06] hm [14:06] antisober552, try this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair [14:06] i cant help you further tho, i think you have a hardware issue [14:07] I dont have any way off booto=ing to do a boot repair [14:07] I guess i will try 13.04 [14:08] antisober552, you do have access to the live session on the dvd [14:08] No [14:08] is it an old machine .. I mean -- your install was slow [14:09] 6his machine in 9 years old [14:09] antisober552, well sorry then i dont know [14:09] On 6hats fine [14:09] try a new hd maybe? :( [14:09] antisober552, lubuntu or xubuntu 12.04 LTS are suggested [14:09] thats OLD now [14:09] by the way, why not use a USB to install - instead of cd/dvd (it's a *lot* faster) [14:09] also what spec [14:09] antisober552, for such an old machine a non-pae kernel its recommended tho [14:10] its going to run like a dog with 512mb of ram [14:10] oh, true, alternate CD for older (non-pae kernel) [14:10] so 12.04 xubuntu its your bet option [14:10] maybe [14:10] check hardware requirements (wikipedia, xubuntu) [14:10] * rhin0 guesses its only got 512mb ram [14:10] also the disk may be v old [14:11] Okay spec of this pc is 768 mb of ram 80 gb hdd readon 9200 and its a p4 [14:11] 9 years old = slow [14:11] thats an old hard drive [14:11] p4 = ancient [14:11] you are at the barest level for running modern ubuntu [14:11] antisober552: i was able to do a regular install with radeon 9250 and p4 celeron D in the past (xubuntu 12.04) [14:11] Hey i wont have that xubuntu runs well on 6his pc it just freezes random [14:11] im pessimistic [14:12] also 768mb of ram is an irregular ram size [14:12] there could be mis-matched anything on that machine [14:12] Meaning [14:12] rhin0: not if it's not dual-channel RAM; should be fine, right? [14:12] ok ok [14:12] not a hardware person [14:12] (mis-matched rams never stopped me) [14:12] :) [14:13] * GridCube has 1*512mb, 1*1gn, 2*2gb [14:13]