/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/04/18/#kubuntu-devel.txt

ScottKMirv: I'm rejecting qtcreator.  1.  Equivs is an evil horrid hack and it's wildly inappropriate for anything in the archive to use it.  2.  Need to update debian/copyright for the licensing change (wouldn't have rejected for that, but please fix while you're getting rid of equivs).03:03
MirvScottK: I haven't touched a qtcreator for a little while so I'm not sure which version you're talking about04:19
ScottKMirv: I thought it was your upload that I just rejected.04:19
MirvI have a feeling the SDK team tried to put something together to get the plugin updated last evening...04:20
MirvI need to find out04:20
ScottKMirv: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/raring/+queue?queue_state=4&queue_text=qtcreator04:22
Mirvright, so they updated the plugin04:23
MirvScottK: sorry, what equivs is used where?04:24
ScottKIt's in the diff as an added dependency.04:24
ScottKI didn't check of what (can't tell), but it's wrong no matter what of.04:25
Mirvoh right, I'm not sure why that got added, but probably it's something to use when auto-packaging QML apps from Creator to deploy to the target device over SSH04:27
MirvI'll ask04:27
ScottKMirv: It's the wrong answer no matter what the question is.04:30
MirvI'll deliver that message04:30
lordievaderGood morning05:37
soeegood morning05:59
lordievaderHey soee, how are you?06:08
soeelordievader, i think fine, thank you, and you06:10
lordievadersoee: I'm doing good. :)06:15
soeei must say im happy today after i fixed my system yesterday :)06:16
lordievadersoee: You had nVidia problems right? Congratulations, anyhow :)06:16
soeelordievader, yes and i never seen before that installing nvidia drivers might results with halp packages removed :D06:18
soee*half06:18
lordievaderOdd, indeed.06:23
Riddellbrr, getting cold, I feel a freeze coming on08:29
Kalidarnhmm, it looks like raring desktop daily from yesterday does not boot on my system08:45
Kalidarnseems to be the same behavior as i experienced pre RC1 of wheezy08:45
Kalidarni think in the end they rolled back syslinux for RC108:45
Kalidarni might try again with the daily from 18-Apr-2013 06:54  931M08:46
KalidarnI think the one i had was 16-Apr08:46
Kalidarnis there a list of known outstanding bugs?08:48
Riddellhttp://goo.gl/9THah has milestoned bugs08:50
Kalidarnthanks Riddell 08:51
Kalidarnand no my bug is not listed there.08:51
Kalidarnbasically comes up with the grub menu, then when you select the first option says something about an invalid sector08:52
Kalidarn(media is fine)08:52
Kalidarnthe media check also doesn't work, i had to check the md5sum.txt on the actual media from an already booted installation08:54
BlizzzRiddell: reg. ownCloud backport – sry for late reaction. are there any details?08:54
Kalidarnmd5sum.txt: 273 files, 273 OK, 273 tested in textmode.  39.734 seconds, 23903.7K/s08:56
Kalidarnthat would indicate everything is fine hmm.08:57
Kalidarnwell 19 minutes till ive pulled down the latest daily media, so i'll see how that goes.08:58
RiddellBlizzz: I got it working thanks, now just hope the sru team accept it09:08
Riddellhint to ScottK ^^09:09
BlizzzRiddell: glad it works. Sry i couldn't help in time.09:10
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smartboyhwHello!10:03
Riddellhi smartboyhw 10:05
smartboyhwRiddell: Hey:)10:06
Riddellapachelogger: boot screen now replaced by random stick figure image?10:43
Tm_TRiddell: that's me sideways10:44
smartboyhwTm_T: LOL10:45
Riddelldebfx: is that kmix issue still to do?11:04
Riddellsmartboyhw: fancy a task?11:05
smartboyhwRiddell: Not now. What task anyway?11:11
Riddellsmartboyhw: debfx's kmix fix, I'll take a look if you're busy11:12
Riddellthis google+ thread is great https://plus.google.com/105682810766335536482/posts/Qb4JxkieNHQ11:12
Riddell"Everything just looks "polished" when you log in"11:12
Riddell"Project Neon."11:12
Riddell"An extremely good community of developers, packagers, testers, translators, supporters and users!"11:13
Riddellnice people :)11:13
smartboyhwRiddell: I left one too:P11:13
Riddellso I see :)11:13
smartboyhwRiddell: The third message is mine.11:13
smartboyhw:)11:14
debfxRiddell: yes, I haven't had time to properly test it yet11:14
Riddellhttp://blogs.kde.org/2013/04/18/slick-new-artwork-and-call-testers11:20
smartboyhwRiddell: :)11:22
Riddelldebfx: http://bugsfiles.kde.org/attachment.cgi?id=76912 looks simple enough11:27
Riddelldebfx: but the commit is a bit scary https://projects.kde.org/projects/kde/kdemultimedia/kmix/repository/revisions/207fa53763d83e8031be622c9006e41b97195d4811:27
Riddellis most of that not needed?11:27
debfxRiddell: as I understand it the first is a hack and the second a proper fix11:30
debfxI wouldn't backport that commit from master unless upstream says it's safe and tested11:31
Riddelldebfx: hmm this is sounding a bit scary then11:33
debfxRiddell: I'd says it should be fine if we test that small patch11:38
debfxthe regression potential is fairly limited11:39
Riddelldebfx: I just tested it and it doesn't seem to make a difference11:40
Riddellstill 15% jumps for me11:40
* Riddell lunches11:42
* smartboyhw thinks lunches means a sudden attack instead of having lunch11:43
BluesKajHiyas all11:51
Kalidarncan someone explain what http://kubuntu-qa.dyndns.org/ is about?12:41
Kalidarni assume that's building of packages for kubuntu raring ringtail?12:41
yofel__Kalidarn: that's automated upgrade testing, but still not running properly12:43
Kalidarnah :)12:44
Kalidarnokay looks like that debian bug is in here :(12:47
Kalidarnwhen i try to boot, it comes up with the grub menu, with 3 options Start Kubuntu, OEM install (for manufacturers) check disc for defects. If I select Start Kubuntu I get: 12:49
Kalidarnerror: failure reading sector 0x6d500 from `cd0'.12:49
Kalidarnerror: you need to load the kernel first.12:49
KalidarnPress any key to continue...12:49
ScottKRiddell: You should also ask the security team if they'll publish it.12:50
Kalidarni was getting this error yesterday's current image12:50
Kalidarnand with todays12:50
Kalidarnmaybe I should try beta 212:51
Kalidarnim pretty sure i got this exact same error with wheezy's daily pre RC1 and was fixed in RC212:51
Kalidarn*RC1 rather12:51
Kalidarnfrom memory it had something to do with the version of syslinux being buggy on amd6412:52
smartboyhwKalidarn: Do report a bug:(12:56
Kalidarnyeah12:56
freeflyingwonderding do we have latest kde ppa for 12.04?14:02
Riddellhi freeflying, yes should be all there14:03
freeflyingRiddell: thanks 14:04
Riddellfreeflying: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.10.214:04
freeflyingRiddell: awesome14:05
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JontheEchidnaapachelogger: I've fixed Messages.sh14:48
* JontheEchidna self flagellates14:49
Riddellcor, upstream's default layout has no folderview15:33
Riddelland the same broken activities as we do15:33
BluesKajis mesa mucked up ?15:34
Riddellumm, it had better not be15:35
BluesKajthere are some complaints about it breaking OpenGL 15:36
BluesKajRiddell, GL support for sandy bridge15:37
shadeslayeroh15:38
shadeslayerBluesKaj: what's the issue?15:38
shadeslayerI have sandy bridge, can test 15:38
BluesKajit's not my prob , hang on  shadeslayer15:38
shadeslayerokay15:39
BluesKajok , it's steam game in beta , and after today's upgrade the gui segfaults , which it didn't do previously15:41
BluesKajEuro truck simulator 2 shadeslayer , if you're interested15:42
genii-aroundI think it might have been opencl and not opengl15:42
genii-aroundBluesKaj ^15:42
shadeslayerheh15:42
shadeslayerI have no idea what that game uses :P15:43
lordievaderGood afternoon15:45
BluesKajgenii-around, ok , he's in ubuntu+1, and not sure whetehr it's opencl or gl15:45
Riddellanyone object to bug 1170403 ?16:07
ubottubug 1170403 in kubuntu-docs (Ubuntu) "please remove kubuntu-docs" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/117040316:08
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shadeslayerlol "/sys/class/android_usb/f_ffs/"16:12
Kalidarnnice to see usb-creator-kde works, i remember last time I used that it used to hang.16:18
JontheEchidnaI've got an important muon upload in -proposed atm. I hope it's not too late?16:19
RiddellJontheEchidna: not if you ask nicely, what's new?16:19
JontheEchidnaRiddell: I cherry-picked the fix for https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31791716:20
ubottuKDE bug 317917 in installer "Muon Crash after click on a link in the minecraft starter" [Crash,Resolved: fixed]16:20
smartboyhw_JontheEchidna it doesn't need an FFe right?16:20
JontheEchidnait wouldn't be a new feature, no16:20
smartboyhw_If it is bugfix they will allow it I think.16:20
JontheEchidnabut we're running up close to final freeze16:21
smartboyhw_JontheEchidna: Upload now and ask nicely shoulf work before 21:00 UTC 16:21
JontheEchidnaRiddell: which I suppose is also bug 116957216:21
ubottubug 1169572 in muon (Ubuntu) "Muon software center continues to crash every time I try to install firefox using "mozilla firefox browser installer"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/116957216:21
RiddellJontheEchidna: accepted!16:25
JontheEchidnaRiddell: thanks!16:25
JontheEchidnadisaster averted. :)16:25
RiddellRiddell_: hi16:31
Riddellhmm well message indicator still works16:32
Riddellbut it's off by default16:32
Riddellshadeslayer: do you remember when you turned it off did you turn on the relevant panel icons?16:32
shadeslayeruh16:33
shadeslayerdid I turn off m-i?16:33
shadeslayerI don't think I did ....16:33
Riddell  * Replace message-indicator with KDE Telepathy presence16:33
Riddell    applet as discussed (LP: #1049976)16:33
Riddell -- Rohan Garg <rohangarg@kubuntu.org>  Wed, 19 Sep 2012 05:21:05 +053016:33
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1049976 in kubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu Quantal) "KTp Presence Applet should be added to the system tray by default" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/104997616:33
smartboyhw_lol16:33
Riddellsays kubuntu-settings16:33
shadeslayerer16:33
smartboyhw_Don't tell us it wasn't fixed:P16:34
shadeslayerI think the changelog entry is incorrectly worded16:34
* shadeslayer looks at diff16:34
smartboyhw_:O16:35
Riddellyou changed the plasma init script to load the presence plasmoid instead of message indicator16:35
Riddellin quantal16:35
Riddellbut e.g. konversationrc is still ShowTrayIcon=false16:35
davmor2shadeslayer: link to this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2g5Hz17C4is and run ;)16:36
shadeslayerdavmor2: can't do that, commit has my name on it :P16:36
shadeslayerRiddell: sigh, not sure why I removed message-indicator there :/16:37
Riddelldo we override quassel's settings at all?16:37
Riddellshadeslayer: well nobody has complained so I guess it's not much missed16:37
shadeslayerheh true16:37
shadeslayerRiddell: I think so16:38
Riddellhi jr_ 16:38
shadeslayerI wonder what Quassel does when there's no m-i16:38
shadeslayerno notifications?16:38
RiddellRiddell_: hi16:39
Riddellshadeslayer: it uses kde's notifications16:39
shadeslayerah16:41
shadeslayerRiddell: cool, so it does fallback16:42
Riddelldunno about fallback, it does both16:46
Riddelljr_: hi16:48
Riddellkonversation on the other hand has none16:48
JontheEchidnathat's odd, it does for me16:50
RiddellJontheEchidna: what does it do?16:51
JontheEchidnaRiddell: http://i.imgur.com/mJ880sM.png16:51
JontheEchidnaperhaps it's not on by default though16:51
Riddellyeah you have on screen display which isn't on by default16:51
Riddelland there's no knotify on by default16:52
Riddellso what should I put in our settings?16:52
RiddellI'm thinking tray icon by default16:52
shadeslayertray icon yes16:52
JontheEchidnaI'd recommend a conversation with Sho_, whatever gets decided.16:52
shadeslayerRiddell: oh also, what does KMail do16:53
JontheEchidna^out of context that sounded really silly16:53
shadeslayerhehe16:53
JontheEchidna:P16:53
shadeslayerit eats your ram and burns your CPU16:53
dmatthi, https://bugreports.qt-project.org/browse/QTBUG-28843 causes unreadable numbers in dolphin list of drives in Beta 2 install16:54
Riddellshadeslayer: tray icon or knotify?16:54
JontheEchidnayeah I had to just switch to GMail a few years back16:54
dmattit is english install, only timezone was selected in slovakia16:54
shadeslayerRiddell: I'm in favor of a tray icon16:54
dmattany chance of that being fixed?16:54
shadeslayerRiddell: but ask Sho what he expects?16:54
Riddelljr_: hi16:54
Riddellthe konversation tray icon is really annoying, blinking red bulb16:55
shadeslayeror maybe just go with whatever is default upstream?16:55
Riddellupstream default is for none16:55
JontheEchidnaRiddell: oh, actually I wasn't using the OSD, but rather colibri with knotify16:57
RiddellJontheEchidna: mm nice16:57
JontheEchidnaI set the "nick written" notify event to show a popup16:57
RiddellI don't remember how to override knotify settings16:58
shadeslayercolibri ftw16:58
shadeslayerRiddell: usually each application has a config file for notifications16:58
Riddellmm, where?16:59
shadeslayerfor eg ktelepathy.notifyrc 16:59
Riddellah yes I see konversation.notifyrc17:00
shadeslayeryep17:01
Riddellhow about popup on query message and highlight?17:01
shadeslayersounds fine to me17:01
BluesKajRiddell, in settings>configure konv>general , uncheck "use sustem tray....17:01
Riddelljr_: hi17:02
Riddelljr_: hi17:02
Riddelljr_: hi17:02
JontheEchidnaRiddell: I think you'll want the "nick written" one as well17:02
Riddelljr_: hi17:02
Riddelljr_: hi17:03
Riddellthat did it17:03
JontheEchidnaiirc the "highlight" one is for other non-nick highlights that you can set17:03
JontheEchidnaa tad bit unintuitive17:03
JontheEchidnaI'm off for my daily jog. Be back in ~30 minutes17:06
Riddelljr_: hi17:12
Riddelljr_: hi17:13
Riddellkjhhj17:13
Riddellkjhkh17:13
Riddelljr_: lkjh17:14
dtchengood thing there's context for ^ about ten minutes ago :)17:14
KalidarnRiddell: did your cat sit on the keyboard?17:18
dtchenKalidarn: looks like nick highlight testing (see my previous comment, or look up in the history about fifteen minutes)17:19
Kalidarnah17:21
* BluesKaj finally clues in , the highlight setting , now I remember why i turned it off :)18:05
ScottKMirv: Accepted qt-creator.  Thanks.18:21
Kalidarni assume it's a fairly trivial process to upgrade from raring ringtail development branch to the final released next week18:44
Kalidarnoops wrong channel18:45
ScottKKalidarn: Yes.  It's just a regular package update.19:01
Kalidarnah that's what it thought.19:01
debfxRiddell: indeed it doesn't fix the volume step :/19:08
debfxreally annoying bug ...19:08
Kalidarnuhh oh, kernel panic while boot :(19:35
Kalidarnerror: invalid environment block err.19:36
Kalidarnbut it booted anyway19:36
ahoneybunhey people19:46
lordievaderGood evening ahoneybun 19:47
ahoneybunlordievader: good evening as well19:48
ahoneybunhey apachelogger19:49
ahoneybunlordievader: is there any low level work like junior jobs that you know of 19:49
ahoneybun?19:49
shadeslayersure19:51
shadeslayerget me a kernel that boots on the Nexus 1019:51
ahoneybunshadeslayer: hello19:51
lordievaderahoneybun: You should ask someone else, I'm only a tester ;)19:51
shadeslayerwith framebuffer19:51
shadeslayer*framebuffer console19:51
ahoneybunshadeslayer: I don't have a N1019:52
shadeslayerhehe19:52
ahoneybunshadeslayer: I hope you were joking lol19:52
shadeslayerwas not :P19:52
ahoneybunI did not think so19:52
ahoneybunI'm happy to say I am using Kubuntu 12.10 on both my desktop and notebook19:53
shadeslayerksleep19:55
shadeslayernight19:55
ahoneybun?19:55
lordievaderSleep well, shadeslayer 19:55
ahoneybunshadeslayer: yes19:56
shadeslayeryes?19:56
ahoneybunshadeslayer: I meant the same as lordievader, good night19:56
shadeslayerah okay19:57
shadeslayer:)19:57
yofelnini19:57
ahoneybunyep see ya shadeslayer!19:57
lordievaderHey yofel, how are you doing?19:59
yofeltried from work, otherwise well20:00
ahoneybunyofel: I'm in the same boat 20:01

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