[03:03] <ScottK> Mirv: I'm rejecting qtcreator.  1.  Equivs is an evil horrid hack and it's wildly inappropriate for anything in the archive to use it.  2.  Need to update debian/copyright for the licensing change (wouldn't have rejected for that, but please fix while you're getting rid of equivs).
[04:19] <Mirv> ScottK: I haven't touched a qtcreator for a little while so I'm not sure which version you're talking about
[04:19] <ScottK> Mirv: I thought it was your upload that I just rejected.
[04:20] <Mirv> I have a feeling the SDK team tried to put something together to get the plugin updated last evening...
[04:20] <Mirv> I need to find out
[04:22] <ScottK> Mirv: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/raring/+queue?queue_state=4&queue_text=qtcreator
[04:23] <Mirv> right, so they updated the plugin
[04:24] <Mirv> ScottK: sorry, what equivs is used where?
[04:24] <ScottK> It's in the diff as an added dependency.
[04:25] <ScottK> I didn't check of what (can't tell), but it's wrong no matter what of.
[04:27] <Mirv> oh right, I'm not sure why that got added, but probably it's something to use when auto-packaging QML apps from Creator to deploy to the target device over SSH
[04:27] <Mirv> I'll ask
[04:30] <ScottK> Mirv: It's the wrong answer no matter what the question is.
[04:30] <Mirv> I'll deliver that message
[05:37] <lordievader> Good morning
[05:59] <soee> good morning
[06:08] <lordievader> Hey soee, how are you?
[06:10] <soee> lordievader, i think fine, thank you, and you
[06:15] <lordievader> soee: I'm doing good. :)
[06:16] <soee> i must say im happy today after i fixed my system yesterday :)
[06:16] <lordievader> soee: You had nVidia problems right? Congratulations, anyhow :)
[06:18] <soee> lordievader, yes and i never seen before that installing nvidia drivers might results with halp packages removed :D
[06:18] <soee> *half
[06:23] <lordievader> Odd, indeed.
[08:29] <Riddell> brr, getting cold, I feel a freeze coming on
[08:45] <Kalidarn> hmm, it looks like raring desktop daily from yesterday does not boot on my system
[08:45] <Kalidarn> seems to be the same behavior as i experienced pre RC1 of wheezy
[08:45] <Kalidarn> i think in the end they rolled back syslinux for RC1
[08:46] <Kalidarn> i might try again with the daily from 18-Apr-2013 06:54  931M
[08:46] <Kalidarn> I think the one i had was 16-Apr
[08:48] <Kalidarn> is there a list of known outstanding bugs?
[08:50] <Riddell> http://goo.gl/9THah has milestoned bugs
[08:51] <Kalidarn> thanks Riddell 
[08:51] <Kalidarn> and no my bug is not listed there.
[08:52] <Kalidarn> basically comes up with the grub menu, then when you select the first option says something about an invalid sector
[08:52] <Kalidarn> (media is fine)
[08:54] <Kalidarn> the media check also doesn't work, i had to check the md5sum.txt on the actual media from an already booted installation
[08:54] <Blizzz> Riddell: reg. ownCloud backport – sry for late reaction. are there any details?
[08:56] <Kalidarn> md5sum.txt: 273 files, 273 OK, 273 tested in textmode.  39.734 seconds, 23903.7K/s
[08:57] <Kalidarn> that would indicate everything is fine hmm.
[08:58] <Kalidarn> well 19 minutes till ive pulled down the latest daily media, so i'll see how that goes.
[09:08] <Riddell> Blizzz: I got it working thanks, now just hope the sru team accept it
[09:09] <Riddell> hint to ScottK ^^
[09:10] <Blizzz> Riddell: glad it works. Sry i couldn't help in time.
[10:03] <smartboyhw> Hello!
[10:05] <Riddell> hi smartboyhw 
[10:06] <smartboyhw> Riddell: Hey:)
[10:43] <Riddell> apachelogger: boot screen now replaced by random stick figure image?
[10:44] <Tm_T> Riddell: that's me sideways
[10:45] <smartboyhw> Tm_T: LOL
[11:04] <Riddell> debfx: is that kmix issue still to do?
[11:05] <Riddell> smartboyhw: fancy a task?
[11:11] <smartboyhw> Riddell: Not now. What task anyway?
[11:12] <Riddell> smartboyhw: debfx's kmix fix, I'll take a look if you're busy
[11:12] <Riddell> this google+ thread is great https://plus.google.com/105682810766335536482/posts/Qb4JxkieNHQ
[11:12] <Riddell> "Everything just looks "polished" when you log in﻿"
[11:12] <Riddell> "Project Neon.﻿"
[11:13] <Riddell> "An extremely good community of developers, packagers, testers, translators, supporters and users!﻿"
[11:13] <Riddell> nice people :)
[11:13] <smartboyhw> Riddell: I left one too:P
[11:13] <Riddell> so I see :)
[11:13] <smartboyhw> Riddell: The third message is mine.
[11:14] <smartboyhw> :)
[11:14] <debfx> Riddell: yes, I haven't had time to properly test it yet
[11:20] <Riddell> http://blogs.kde.org/2013/04/18/slick-new-artwork-and-call-testers
[11:22] <smartboyhw> Riddell: :)
[11:27] <Riddell> debfx: http://bugsfiles.kde.org/attachment.cgi?id=76912 looks simple enough
[11:27] <Riddell> debfx: but the commit is a bit scary https://projects.kde.org/projects/kde/kdemultimedia/kmix/repository/revisions/207fa53763d83e8031be622c9006e41b97195d48
[11:27] <Riddell> is most of that not needed?
[11:30] <debfx> Riddell: as I understand it the first is a hack and the second a proper fix
[11:31] <debfx> I wouldn't backport that commit from master unless upstream says it's safe and tested
[11:33] <Riddell> debfx: hmm this is sounding a bit scary then
[11:38] <debfx> Riddell: I'd says it should be fine if we test that small patch
[11:39] <debfx> the regression potential is fairly limited
[11:40] <Riddell> debfx: I just tested it and it doesn't seem to make a difference
[11:40] <Riddell> still 15% jumps for me
[11:42]  * Riddell lunches
[11:43]  * smartboyhw thinks lunches means a sudden attack instead of having lunch
[11:51] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:41] <Kalidarn> can someone explain what http://kubuntu-qa.dyndns.org/ is about?
[12:41] <Kalidarn> i assume that's building of packages for kubuntu raring ringtail?
[12:43] <yofel__> Kalidarn: that's automated upgrade testing, but still not running properly
[12:44] <Kalidarn> ah :)
[12:47] <Kalidarn> okay looks like that debian bug is in here :(
[12:49] <Kalidarn> when i try to boot, it comes up with the grub menu, with 3 options Start Kubuntu, OEM install (for manufacturers) check disc for defects. If I select Start Kubuntu I get: 
[12:49] <Kalidarn> error: failure reading sector 0x6d500 from `cd0'.
[12:49] <Kalidarn> error: you need to load the kernel first.
[12:49] <Kalidarn> Press any key to continue...
[12:50] <ScottK> Riddell: You should also ask the security team if they'll publish it.
[12:50] <Kalidarn> i was getting this error yesterday's current image
[12:50] <Kalidarn> and with todays
[12:51] <Kalidarn> maybe I should try beta 2
[12:51] <Kalidarn> im pretty sure i got this exact same error with wheezy's daily pre RC1 and was fixed in RC2
[12:51] <Kalidarn> *RC1 rather
[12:52] <Kalidarn> from memory it had something to do with the version of syslinux being buggy on amd64
[12:56] <smartboyhw> Kalidarn: Do report a bug:(
[12:56] <Kalidarn> yeah
[14:02] <freeflying> wonderding do we have latest kde ppa for 12.04?
[14:03] <Riddell> hi freeflying, yes should be all there
[14:04] <freeflying> Riddell: thanks 
[14:04] <Riddell> freeflying: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.10.2
[14:05] <freeflying> Riddell: awesome
[14:48] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: I've fixed Messages.sh
[14:49]  * JontheEchidna self flagellates
[15:33] <Riddell> cor, upstream's default layout has no folderview
[15:33] <Riddell> and the same broken activities as we do
[15:34] <BluesKaj> is mesa mucked up ?
[15:35] <Riddell> umm, it had better not be
[15:36] <BluesKaj> there are some complaints about it breaking OpenGL 
[15:37] <BluesKaj> Riddell, GL support for sandy bridge
[15:38] <shadeslayer> oh
[15:38] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: what's the issue?
[15:38] <shadeslayer> I have sandy bridge, can test 
[15:38] <BluesKaj> it's not my prob , hang on  shadeslayer
[15:39] <shadeslayer> okay
[15:41] <BluesKaj> ok , it's steam game in beta , and after today's upgrade the gui segfaults , which it didn't do previously
[15:42] <BluesKaj> Euro truck simulator 2 shadeslayer , if you're interested
[15:42] <genii-around> I think it might have been opencl and not opengl
[15:42] <genii-around> BluesKaj ^
[15:42] <shadeslayer> heh
[15:43] <shadeslayer> I have no idea what that game uses :P
[15:45] <lordievader> Good afternoon
[15:45] <BluesKaj> genii-around, ok , he's in ubuntu+1, and not sure whetehr it's opencl or gl
[16:07] <Riddell> anyone object to bug 1170403 ?
[16:12] <shadeslayer> lol "/sys/class/android_usb/f_ffs/"
[16:18] <Kalidarn> nice to see usb-creator-kde works, i remember last time I used that it used to hang.
[16:19] <JontheEchidna> I've got an important muon upload in -proposed atm. I hope it's not too late?
[16:19] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: not if you ask nicely, what's new?
[16:20] <JontheEchidna> Riddell: I cherry-picked the fix for https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=317917
[16:20] <smartboyhw_> JontheEchidna it doesn't need an FFe right?
[16:20] <JontheEchidna> it wouldn't be a new feature, no
[16:20] <smartboyhw_> If it is bugfix they will allow it I think.
[16:21] <JontheEchidna> but we're running up close to final freeze
[16:21] <smartboyhw_> JontheEchidna: Upload now and ask nicely shoulf work before 21:00 UTC 
[16:21] <JontheEchidna> Riddell: which I suppose is also bug 1169572
[16:25] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: accepted!
[16:25] <JontheEchidna> Riddell: thanks!
[16:25] <JontheEchidna> disaster averted. :)
[16:31] <Riddell> Riddell_: hi
[16:32] <Riddell> hmm well message indicator still works
[16:32] <Riddell> but it's off by default
[16:32] <Riddell> shadeslayer: do you remember when you turned it off did you turn on the relevant panel icons?
[16:33] <shadeslayer> uh
[16:33] <shadeslayer> did I turn off m-i?
[16:33] <shadeslayer> I don't think I did ....
[16:33] <Riddell>   * Replace message-indicator with KDE Telepathy presence
[16:33] <Riddell>     applet as discussed (LP: #1049976)
[16:33] <Riddell>  -- Rohan Garg <rohangarg@kubuntu.org>  Wed, 19 Sep 2012 05:21:05 +0530
[16:33] <smartboyhw_> lol
[16:33] <Riddell> says kubuntu-settings
[16:33] <shadeslayer> er
[16:34] <smartboyhw_> Don't tell us it wasn't fixed:P
[16:34] <shadeslayer> I think the changelog entry is incorrectly worded
[16:34]  * shadeslayer looks at diff
[16:35] <smartboyhw_> :O
[16:35] <Riddell> you changed the plasma init script to load the presence plasmoid instead of message indicator
[16:35] <Riddell> in quantal
[16:35] <Riddell> but e.g. konversationrc is still ShowTrayIcon=false
[16:36] <davmor2> shadeslayer: link to this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2g5Hz17C4is and run ;)
[16:36] <shadeslayer> davmor2: can't do that, commit has my name on it :P
[16:37] <shadeslayer> Riddell: sigh, not sure why I removed message-indicator there :/
[16:37] <Riddell> do we override quassel's settings at all?
[16:37] <Riddell> shadeslayer: well nobody has complained so I guess it's not much missed
[16:37] <shadeslayer> heh true
[16:38] <shadeslayer> Riddell: I think so
[16:38] <Riddell> hi jr_ 
[16:38] <shadeslayer> I wonder what Quassel does when there's no m-i
[16:38] <shadeslayer> no notifications?
[16:39] <Riddell> Riddell_: hi
[16:39] <Riddell> shadeslayer: it uses kde's notifications
[16:41] <shadeslayer> ah
[16:42] <shadeslayer> Riddell: cool, so it does fallback
[16:46] <Riddell> dunno about fallback, it does both
[16:48] <Riddell> jr_: hi
[16:48] <Riddell> konversation on the other hand has none
[16:50] <JontheEchidna> that's odd, it does for me
[16:51] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: what does it do?
[16:51] <JontheEchidna> Riddell: http://i.imgur.com/mJ880sM.png
[16:51] <JontheEchidna> perhaps it's not on by default though
[16:51] <Riddell> yeah you have on screen display which isn't on by default
[16:52] <Riddell> and there's no knotify on by default
[16:52] <Riddell> so what should I put in our settings?
[16:52] <Riddell> I'm thinking tray icon by default
[16:52] <shadeslayer> tray icon yes
[16:52] <JontheEchidna> I'd recommend a conversation with Sho_, whatever gets decided.
[16:53] <shadeslayer> Riddell: oh also, what does KMail do
[16:53] <JontheEchidna> ^out of context that sounded really silly
[16:53] <shadeslayer> hehe
[16:53] <JontheEchidna> :P
[16:53] <shadeslayer> it eats your ram and burns your CPU
[16:54] <dmatt> hi, https://bugreports.qt-project.org/browse/QTBUG-28843 causes unreadable numbers in dolphin list of drives in Beta 2 install
[16:54] <Riddell> shadeslayer: tray icon or knotify?
[16:54] <JontheEchidna> yeah I had to just switch to GMail a few years back
[16:54] <dmatt> it is english install, only timezone was selected in slovakia
[16:54] <shadeslayer> Riddell: I'm in favor of a tray icon
[16:54] <dmatt> any chance of that being fixed?
[16:54] <shadeslayer> Riddell: but ask Sho what he expects?
[16:54] <Riddell> jr_: hi
[16:55] <Riddell> the konversation tray icon is really annoying, blinking red bulb
[16:55] <shadeslayer> or maybe just go with whatever is default upstream?
[16:55] <Riddell> upstream default is for none
[16:57] <JontheEchidna> Riddell: oh, actually I wasn't using the OSD, but rather colibri with knotify
[16:57] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: mm nice
[16:57] <JontheEchidna> I set the "nick written" notify event to show a popup
[16:58] <Riddell> I don't remember how to override knotify settings
[16:58] <shadeslayer> colibri ftw
[16:58] <shadeslayer> Riddell: usually each application has a config file for notifications
[16:59] <Riddell> mm, where?
[16:59] <shadeslayer> for eg ktelepathy.notifyrc 
[17:00] <Riddell> ah yes I see konversation.notifyrc
[17:01] <shadeslayer> yep
[17:01] <Riddell> how about popup on query message and highlight?
[17:01] <shadeslayer> sounds fine to me
[17:01] <BluesKaj> Riddell, in settings>configure konv>general , uncheck "use sustem tray....
[17:02] <Riddell> jr_: hi
[17:02] <Riddell> jr_: hi
[17:02] <Riddell> jr_: hi
[17:02] <JontheEchidna> Riddell: I think you'll want the "nick written" one as well
[17:02] <Riddell> jr_: hi
[17:03] <Riddell> jr_: hi
[17:03] <Riddell> that did it
[17:03] <JontheEchidna> iirc the "highlight" one is for other non-nick highlights that you can set
[17:03] <JontheEchidna> a tad bit unintuitive
[17:06] <JontheEchidna> I'm off for my daily jog. Be back in ~30 minutes
[17:12] <Riddell> jr_: hi
[17:13] <Riddell> jr_: hi
[17:13] <Riddell> kjhhj
[17:13] <Riddell> kjhkh
[17:14] <Riddell> jr_: lkjh
[17:14] <dtchen> good thing there's context for ^ about ten minutes ago :)
[17:18] <Kalidarn> Riddell: did your cat sit on the keyboard?
[17:19] <dtchen> Kalidarn: looks like nick highlight testing (see my previous comment, or look up in the history about fifteen minutes)
[17:21] <Kalidarn> ah
[18:05]  * BluesKaj finally clues in , the highlight setting , now I remember why i turned it off :)
[18:21] <ScottK> Mirv: Accepted qt-creator.  Thanks.
[18:44] <Kalidarn> i assume it's a fairly trivial process to upgrade from raring ringtail development branch to the final released next week
[18:45] <Kalidarn> oops wrong channel
[19:01] <ScottK> Kalidarn: Yes.  It's just a regular package update.
[19:01] <Kalidarn> ah that's what it thought.
[19:08] <debfx> Riddell: indeed it doesn't fix the volume step :/
[19:08] <debfx> really annoying bug ...
[19:35] <Kalidarn> uhh oh, kernel panic while boot :(
[19:36] <Kalidarn> error: invalid environment block err.
[19:36] <Kalidarn> but it booted anyway
[19:46] <ahoneybun> hey people
[19:47] <lordievader> Good evening ahoneybun 
[19:48] <ahoneybun> lordievader: good evening as well
[19:49] <ahoneybun> hey apachelogger
[19:49] <ahoneybun> lordievader: is there any low level work like junior jobs that you know of 
[19:49] <ahoneybun> ?
[19:51] <shadeslayer> sure
[19:51] <shadeslayer> get me a kernel that boots on the Nexus 10
[19:51] <ahoneybun> shadeslayer: hello
[19:51] <lordievader> ahoneybun: You should ask someone else, I'm only a tester ;)
[19:51] <shadeslayer> with framebuffer
[19:51] <shadeslayer> *framebuffer console
[19:52] <ahoneybun> shadeslayer: I don't have a N10
[19:52] <shadeslayer> hehe
[19:52] <ahoneybun> shadeslayer: I hope you were joking lol
[19:52] <shadeslayer> was not :P
[19:52] <ahoneybun> I did not think so
[19:53] <ahoneybun> I'm happy to say I am using Kubuntu 12.10 on both my desktop and notebook
[19:55] <shadeslayer> ksleep
[19:55] <shadeslayer> night
[19:55] <ahoneybun> ?
[19:55] <lordievader> Sleep well, shadeslayer 
[19:56] <ahoneybun> shadeslayer: yes
[19:56] <shadeslayer> yes?
[19:56] <ahoneybun> shadeslayer: I meant the same as lordievader, good night
[19:57] <shadeslayer> ah okay
[19:57] <shadeslayer> :)
[19:57] <yofel> nini
[19:57] <ahoneybun> yep see ya shadeslayer!
[19:59] <lordievader> Hey yofel, how are you doing?
[20:00] <yofel> tried from work, otherwise well
[20:01] <ahoneybun> yofel: I'm in the same boat