[01:12] <mamalala> hi all! anyone here that night be able to help me with an error in a vanilla qt compile?
[03:44] <Tzinex> I have a question. I have a laptop with 2 gigs of RAM, an unsupported graphics card, a 2 Ghz dual core 32 bit processor. Do you think I can run Kubuntu just fine?
[03:45] <ahoneybun> Tzinex: why do you say it is unsupported?
[03:45] <Tzinex> It is a amd 3100 intergrated graphics card
[03:46] <Tzinex> unrecognizable by ubuntu 12.10
[03:46] <ahoneybun> you mean there is no non-oss driver for it
[03:46] <ahoneybun> ?
[03:47] <Tzinex> I have to use an open source one
[03:47] <Tzinex> no propietary
[03:47] <ahoneybun> thats what I mean propietary = non-oss
[03:48] <ahoneybun> How did it handle Ubuntu 12.10?
[03:49] <Tzinex> It handles Xubuntu just finr
[03:49] <Tzinex> fine*
[03:49] <ahoneybun> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man4/radeon.4.html
[03:49] <ahoneybun> says the driver handle 3D fine
[03:50] <ahoneybun> Kubuntu 12.10 works much faster then Ubuntu 12.10, but its mostly because of the speed of the dash
[03:50] <ahoneybun> on my laptop
[03:50] <ahoneybun> my MacBook anyway
[03:50] <Tzinex> True, but I am currently using Xubuntu
[03:51] <Tzinex> I have an older toshiba sattellite
[03:51] <Tzinex> from the vista days
[03:51] <ahoneybun> Yea I do not like those series, slow at least the one I have and it came with Windows 7
[03:52] <Tzinex> Well, I thank you very much for the help you have given. It was a pleasure.
[03:52] <ahoneybun> I mean if Xubuntu works for you and what you need to do I'm not going to just say jump ship.
[03:52] <ahoneybun> np :) same here
[03:52] <Tzinex> I want to try KDE anyways
[03:53] <ahoneybun> I would say try it in a VirtualBox first
[03:53] <ahoneybun> I'm trying Fedora 18 with GNOME just to try it in one
[03:54] <Tzinex> I can not download it yet since I have just moved and I have no wifi so I am tethering from my rooted phone
[03:54] <ahoneybun> I'm really loving KDE and really Kubuntu
[03:54] <ahoneybun> oh thats cool
[03:54] <Tzinex> That is also cool
[03:55] <ahoneybun> Yea I wanted to try to get GNOME 3.8 on it and check it out, tried to do it from Debian and it did not work right
[03:55] <Tzinex> I tried GNOME 3.8. It finally works!
[03:56] <ahoneybun> Yea I see that! I donated to the 2012 donation for the GNOME project
[03:56] <Tzinex> nice
[03:56] <Tzinex> I love the new classic mode
[03:57] <ahoneybun> I'm on the page for it and everything, spelled my name wrong but thats ok
[03:57] <ahoneybun> lol
[03:57] <Tzinex> Although I hate how it still has some left over orange-ness from Ubuntu
[03:57] <Tzinex> I can not stand unity
[03:57] <ahoneybun> I have Kubuntu setup like Unity lol
[03:57] <Tzinex> lol
[03:57] <ahoneybun> I just can't use it yet as it is not fast and feature full yet
[03:58] <Tzinex> Interesting
[03:58] <ahoneybun> I have Kubuntu 12.10 on my desktop and laptop
[03:58] <Tzinex> Well, I am going to read a book now. Good night!
[03:58] <ahoneybun> good talk, see yea around!
[05:37] <lordievader> Good morning
[06:39] <CosmicB> using the nvidia proprietary driver jockey tells me "The driver is activated but not currently in use"
[06:39] <CosmicB> nouveau is not loaded, the nvidia module is loaded and everythin seem ok, apart from jockey saying the driver isn't in use (?)
[06:40] <CosmicB> this is the situation on my laptop as well as on my workstation at work, I don't get it
[06:41] <lordievader> The jockey is often wrong in detecting which driver is being used, or so I've heard.
[06:41] <CosmicB> it seem to happen when i switch between various nvidia versions, 304, 310, mabye running nouveau and then back to proprietary again . wanybody seen this (?)
[06:42] <CosmicB> lordievader : yeah, look like it, I remember this has happened to me before in older releases. and this time the 'problem' was in 12.10, and it's still here after dist-upgrade to 13.04
[06:43] <CosmicB> I've apt-get remove'd all nvidia stuff, and even dpkg --purge'd any nvidia leftovers, before activating a driver again
[06:43] <CosmicB> could it be jockey misses since I have no xorg.conf (?)
[06:44] <CosmicB> guess it's really not a probelm since the nvidia driver seem to work ok, I'm just getting hung up in jockey failing to detect the driver :p
[06:45] <lordievader> CosmicB: I'm not sure, though I usually hear these stories in combination with nVidia.
[06:46] <CosmicB> lordievader ok
[06:48] <CosmicB> I like 13.04 though :) kde 4.10.2 in 13.04 is better built than my previous 12.10 with kde sc 4.10.2 (4.10.2 introdused a bug in kontact that affected me, 13.04 seem to have patched the fix into kontact 'cause I can't see the bug here)
[06:53] <lordievader> CosmicB: Raring is indeed very nice ;)
[06:54] <CosmicB> :)
[06:56] <MySystem> hello is it possible with diff to compare 2 files/folders with different codepages?
[06:57] <MySystem> haven't found an option in the man diff
[06:58] <MySystem> or do i need another tool for it
[07:11] <vaibhav_> Can some one tell me how to add Channel in Konversation I am trying to add #Django channel but nothin seem to happening ..
[07:12] <vaibhav_> ..
[07:15] <lordievader> vaibhav_: I don't use Konversation myself, so I do not know, but this might help you: http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/extragear-network/konversation/serverlist.html
[07:52] <Mamarok> lordievader: if he wants to add a channel, just /join #hannelname is enough, works the same way in all IRC clients
[07:53] <lordievader> Mamarok: Wasn't sure if he just wanted to join a channel or add it to a list so it would auto-connect.
[07:54] <Mamarok> apparently only join another channel, as #kubuntu is default when he launches Konvi in Kubuntu
[07:54] <Mamarok> so pointing him to an IRC howto would probably be better next time :)
[07:57] <lordievader> Mamarok: Will do.
[09:37] <c2tarun> hi friends, anyone here installed KDE 4.10 on Kubuntu 12.04?
[11:02] <doctorpepper> hi guys !!
[11:06] <doctorpepper> can anyone please help me, i am installing new fonts (monospaced)  using systemsettings ==> font management but they don't show up in the list monospaced fonts
[11:51] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:59] <kourosh> hi
[12:59] <kourosh> is any body here
[12:59] <kourosh> i want some help about tor
[12:59] <kourosh> ???
[13:00] <kourosh> alooooooooooo
[13:01] <kourosh> ??
[13:07] <Artakha> talk about patience
[13:08] <ti_tux> Is it normal that choqok french translation is missing in 13.04 ?
[13:12] <smartboyhw_> !patience | kourosh
[13:12] <smartboyhw_> ti_tux: apachelogger should be able to answer you:)
[13:20] <ti_tux> ok so apachelogger if you read me :)
[13:21] <apachelogger> was it missing in 12.10?
[13:22] <ti_tux> Yes It was
[13:22] <ti_tux> the french translation is freshed (2 weeks)
[13:22] <ti_tux> I think
[13:22] <apachelogger> I highly doubt that
[13:22] <apachelogger> upstream tarball 1.3 contains no translations
[13:23] <apachelogger> ti_tux: I guess filing a bug at bugs.kde.org might help
[13:25] <ti_tux> because on svn a modification appeared 2 weeks ago and on the french translators page it is marked as 100% translated
[13:26] <ti_tux> I will talk about that on the french mailing list
[13:27] <ti_tux> and I'll post a bug if no answer is found
[13:27] <ti_tux> thx
[13:55] <apachelogger> ti_tux: it may be translated in svn, but it has not been released by the choqok developers
[14:02] <ti_tux> apachelogger: I'll ask them too ;)
[15:33] <G__81> hi i installed Kubuntu 12.10 32 bit and when i click on Mozilla firefox installer i get the following errors
[15:33] <G__81> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/firefox_20.0+build1-0ubuntu0.12.10.3_i386.deb (--unpack):  trying to overwrite '/usr/share/applications/firefox.desktop', which is also in package kubuntu-firefox-installer 12.04ubuntu1 No apport report written because MaxReports is reached already                                                               dpkg-deb: error: subprocess paste was killed by signal (Broken pipe)
[15:34] <G__81> can some one help me on how to resolve this problem?
[15:36] <genii-around> G__81: sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite  /var/cache/apt/archives/firefox_20.0+build1-0ubuntu0.12.10.3_i386.deb
[15:37] <G__81> genii-around: i still get some errors
[15:37] <genii-around> G__81: That's fine. After the dpkg command finishes, try: sudo apt-get -f install
[15:37] <G__81> http://pastebin.com/8Z23MxQX
[15:38] <G__81> genii-around: cool thanks a lot it worked :)
[15:38] <genii-around> G__81: You're welcome
[15:44] <G__81> genii-around: if i have to install firefox, what should i do ?
[15:44] <G__81> click on that mozilla firefox installer again?
[15:45] <lordievader> Good afternoon
[15:45] <genii-around> G__81: I generally do it from commandline with: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install firefox
[15:46] <G__81> genii-around: so when i do that now, will i get the same problem again ?
[15:46] <genii-around> G__81: If you do, let me know
[15:48] <G__81> genii-around: ok thanks a lot sure will let you know
[15:49]  * genii-around makes another pot of coffee and settles in
[16:56] <c2tarun> when I put my laptop to standy, I hear standby music repeatedly 3-4 times, is this the case with everyone?
[17:01] <c2tarun> this channel is lot low on traffic then I remember it from time of Kubuntu 10.10. Is this because Canonical abandoned Kubuntu?
[17:02] <wxl> c2tarun: while i can't imagine that's the case (there's tons of community-supported projects that have vibrant forums, channels, etc), i can't imagine it's not a factor
[17:02] <wxl> meanwhile we're making kubuntu our standard desktop at work :)
[17:02] <BluesKaj> c2tarun, no , our nick count has increased by 100 or so since then
[17:03] <c2tarun> wxl: well one thing for sure, Kubuntu is lot lighter then I remember and in comparison to Unity its like my lappy wants to thank me.
[17:04] <BluesKaj> it's afact that 12.10 seems very stable atm , so there are fewer probs
[17:04] <wxl> c2tarun: agreed. and kde is a lot lighter than when i first used it many moons ago. i mainly use lubuntu at home but find myself enjoying a LOT about kubuntu.
[17:39] <wxl> could you guys offer any insight as to why this html5 player isn't working? http://archive.org/details/DLR035 i do have kubuntu-restricted-extras installed, although i'm not sure that helps.
[17:41] <andrei_> hi
[17:42] <jacklk> At the Kubuntu login screen, shutdown, restart, etc do not work. I think this may be because it needs root privalleges to do this... Can someone help?
[18:27] <zAo^> how can I install a minimalistic version of KDE under Ubuntu?
[18:27] <zAo^> kde-core is gone :(
[18:34] <wxl> !info kde-plasma-desktop | zAo^
[18:44] <Ab3L> hi
[18:58] <zAo^> thanks wxl
[18:59] <deadkowe> Iam kinda new to kubuntu and am haveing a issue with a graphics card. it is a pny geforce 5200 agp. when its installed kubuntu will not display. "it works and is good" I have to remove the card and reboot in order to view kde. but with it the card uninstalled i cannot find it in the "aditional drivers"
[19:01] <deadkowe> Am I in the wrong place for chat help?
[19:03] <Walex> deadkowe: it is a very old card, you need to use a "legacy" driver
[19:07] <Linkmaster> How can I connect my 12.10 desktop to my windows 7 laptop so that I can a) transfer files from the laptop to the desktop(I don't care about the reverse) and b) connect to the internet on the desktop(whether the laptop works while connected doesn't matter)
[19:08] <deadkowe> Im not sure how to. With my new pc it displayed kde right off the bat. then I went to kde start, aplications, system, additional drivers. and installed/activated the 3rd party drivers for my graphics card and now I can use open gl. my other computer will not display kde desktop at all when the pny 5200 is installed. when i remove the graphics card and turn it back on useing the onboard graphics it works. but then there is nothing displayed for the pny
[19:08] <deadkowe> 5200 in additional drivers . the 5200 was installed when i installed kubuntu 12.10
[19:10] <Linkmaster> er...my reason for asking is because my school network doesn't allow my personal computer connected, however, they gave permission for us seniors to use "connectify". however, connectify isn't working, for whatever stupid reason. So, since I have a crossover cable handy, I figured to try and connect it that way, but the internet hasn't shown me anything that works so far
[19:13] <deadkowe> Would I need to find the driver in the multi or universe and "sudo apt-get install" the driver?
[19:21] <Walex> deadkowe: it is a very old card, you need to use a "legacy" driver
[19:21] <Walex> Linkmaster: you have to use MS-Windows 'connection sharing'
[19:31] <deadkowe> i understand its old and I need to use a legacy driver.... but How?
[19:32] <deadkowe> and Thank You for helping!
[19:41] <ti_tux> apachelogger: in the source tarball of choqok 1.3, the french translation is provided... so it's a kubuntu issue
[19:44] <ahoneybun> apachelogger: your here?
[19:44] <deadkowe> WOW
[20:26] <keithzg> Hmphh. I keep having to restart my computer to make OpenCL work again on my AMD GPU, even just running "clinfo" will hang. Anyone know any way to restart whatever's hung with opencl or the GPU without rebooting the entire computer?
[20:31] <keithzg> Ah, I see, it's actually just that I switched to a VT. D'oh. Didn't realize the AMD drivers had OpenCL so intimately tied to X11, so even if I'm connecting via SSH it meanwhile needs to be outputting to an X11 session. That's ugly.
[20:40] <dragan> for two days (after some updates probably) my kubuntu 13.04 uses 100% of 1 core constantly(cpu i7 dell 5520)
[20:41] <dragan> how to determin what is uin it and stop it
[20:43] <dragan> top program says that is pulse audio i never had problems whit that before any idea?
[20:47] <genii-around> dragan: #ubuntu+1 for Raring
[20:50] <dragan> found topic on forum http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2136534&page=2 thay said it was fixed by updates earlier today i will check after restart
[21:03] <jjf> hi everybody!
[21:03] <jjf> short question: is there a way to force copy/paste do do plain text on kubuntu?
[21:03] <jjf> i often copy from web pages into gmail, and i don't want to keep the formatting
[21:04] <jjf> i don't know if this is a kde or a chrome-problem
[21:05] <seattlegaucho> jjf: that's a gmail issue ... press 'shift' with the key combination to copy and it will leave formating out
[21:05] <seattlegaucho> same works for google docs
[21:06] <seattlegaucho> for linux (any browser) press shift+ctrl+v
[21:06] <jjf> it works, cool!
[21:06] <jjf> thanks, seattlegaucho
[22:03] <Adityab> hello!
[22:04] <Adityab> I just did a simple apt-get upgrade and now the 'video' group is gone
[22:04] <Adityab> therefore I cannot log in to kde normally
[22:05] <Adityab> I'm currently using some convoluted way of tty -> login -> sudo xinit -> plasma-desktop to get a working desktop
[22:05] <Adityab> also kwin says
[22:05] <Adityab> libGL: OpenDriver: trying /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dri/i965_dri.so
[22:05] <Adityab> libGL error: failed to open drm device: Permission denied
[22:05] <Adityab> libGL error: failed to load driver: i965
[22:07] <Adityab> by 'gone', I don't mean just my user account being removed from that group
[22:07] <Adityab> the group itself has vanished. systemwide
[23:17] <Enklave> anyone here who can help me please
[23:17] <Enklave> ??
[23:19] <Enklave> hello, need help please to increase my RAM memory on my laptop
[23:19] <Enklave> have installed 8 GB
[23:19] <Enklave> but linux just recognise 2,97
[23:20] <Enklave> how could that be?
[23:20] <Enklave> nobody here?
[23:20] <Enklave> aren t here over 100 people ??
[23:21] <Enklave> and nobody write anything?
[23:22] <valorie> by "linux just recognize 2.97, what do you mean?
[23:22] <valorie> Enklave: ^^
[23:23] <Enklave> yes
[23:23] <Enklave> thx for answer
[23:23] <valorie> ?
[23:23] <valorie> that's a question, not an answer
[23:23] <valorie> because it depends
[23:23] <Enklave> is there something i must do to use full physical memory
[23:23] <valorie> let's see if the bot knows anything useful
[23:23] <valorie> !ram
[23:24] <Enklave> the bot?
[23:24] <valorie> ubottu
[23:24] <valorie> the bot knows all kinds of useful links, like the above
[23:24] <valorie> anyone can use the bot
[23:25] <Enklave> cool
[23:26] <Enklave> the first link was not helpful
[23:26] <Enklave> i try the next
[23:27] <valorie> also, based on past experience: be very sure it's securely seated
[23:27] <valorie> and secured
[23:27] <Enklave> the 2nd wasnt also very useful
[23:28] <valorie> :(
[23:28] <Enklave> one thing in advance
[23:28] <Enklave> i use a sony vaio laptop AW11xu
[23:28] <valorie> still, you didn't give any error message to us, or what you used to get your information
[23:28] <Enklave> which can only take 4GB (32 Bit)
[23:28] <valorie> huh
[23:28] <Enklave> only with 64 Bit i can have 8 GB
[23:29] <Enklave> can i send you a screenshot?
[23:29] <valorie> so are you 100% confident that your hardware is acceptable?
[23:29] <valorie> you can post a screenshot to the channel
[23:29] <valorie> I'm no expert
[23:29] <valorie> just trying to get some information
[23:30] <valorie> any experts here feel free to chime in
[23:30] <Enklave> and how can i post that?
[23:30] <Enklave> file:///home/pion/Desktop/screenshot2.png
[23:31] <Enklave> does it work?
[23:31] <Enklave> guess not
[23:31] <smartboyhw_> no
[23:31] <valorie> !screenshot
[23:31] <smartboyhw_> !imgur
[23:31] <smartboyhw_> ...
[23:32] <valorie> if you want to add imgur to the bot message, you have to ask an ubuntu irc person
[23:32] <valorie> they are friendly
[23:32]  * smartboyhw_ has forgotten the command
[23:32] <valorie> :-)
[23:32] <valorie> imagebin works
[23:32] <Enklave> http://imagebin.org/254549
[23:32] <Enklave> here it is
[23:33] <valorie> Enklave: do you have a 64-bit system set up?
[23:33] <Enklave> sorry 2.92 are only used
[23:33] <Enklave> or recognised
[23:33] <Enklave> i have 32 bit
[23:33] <Enklave> set up?
[23:34] <valorie> did you install the 32-bit kubuntu, or the 64-bit one?
[23:34] <Enklave> so i should have at least 4GB which i could use
[23:34] <Enklave> 32-bit
[23:34] <valorie> well, your image shows quite a large swap
[23:35] <valorie> Enklave: you just told me above that to use the whole 8 GB, you have to have 64-bit
[23:35] <valorie> therefore you will have to re-install a 64-bit image
[23:35] <Enklave> you are right, but the swap do to 95% nothing on my system
[23:36] <Enklave> ok, sorry valorie, 8 GB would be fine (but thats just physical memory, which i have installed)
[23:37] <smartboyhw_> !pae
[23:37] <Enklave> i have read that 32-bit just accept 4 GB (unfortunatelly), but i can only use 2.97, why?
[23:37] <smartboyhw_> Enklave: ^
[23:38] <valorie> ah, I forgot that
[23:38] <valorie> smartboyhw_, as his name indicates, is smarter than me
[23:38] <valorie> :-)
[23:38] <smartboyhw_> valorie: Nah nah
[23:39] <valorie> personally, I got around a similar sitch by using 64-bit
[23:39] <valorie> I think it's ready for prime time
[23:40] <Enklave> ok, useful link :-)
[23:41] <Enklave> what is the code adress to send codes, please?
[23:41] <valorie> ?
[23:41] <valorie> do you mean pastebin?
[23:41] <valorie> !paste
[23:41] <Enklave> thx
[23:43] <Enklave> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5720248/
[23:43] <Enklave> does this mean that i can use 64-bit on my 32-bit system?
[23:43] <valorie> ok, dinner
[23:44] <valorie> perhaps smartboyhw_ can help you further
[23:44] <Enklave> isnt 64-bit a question of the hardware?
[23:44] <valorie> it's a question of the kernel
[23:44] <Enklave> i am sorry for that questions, i am in learing phase
[23:44] <valorie> that's how we learn
[23:45] <valorie> nice to meet you, I'm also known as "linux grandma" (blog)
[23:45] <valorie> but time for dinner for me
[23:47] <Enklave> thank you also smartboyhw for your tipp (pae)
[23:47] <Enklave> kk
[23:48] <Enklave> can pae be dangerous for my system; or does the experience says?
[23:55] <Enklave> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5720264/
[23:56] <Enklave> error
[23:56] <Enklave> please help: had the error been fixed?
[23:56] <Enklave> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5720265/
[23:58] <Enklave> i hope so
[23:58] <Enklave> i come in 5 min
[23:58] <Enklave> have to restart