| darkxst | jbicha, backported fixes for bugs 1064022, 1077546 | 02:29 |
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| ubot5 | bug 1064022 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "gnome-shell crashed with signal 5 in st_widget_get_theme_node()" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1064022 | 02:29 |
| ubot5 | bug 1077546 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "Gnome Shell sudo dialog said "Sorry, that didn't work. Please try again" when opening Synaptic" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1077546 | 02:29 |
| darkxst | can you upload them before freeze, if no one else gets to them! | 02:29 |
| jbicha | darkxst: yes I'll do it tomorrow before freeze | 02:31 |
| darkxst | thanks | 02:39 |
| darkxst | meh, screenshield is still failing sometimes, with what looks like https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=689106 | 02:45 |
| ubot5 | Gnome bug 689106 in lock-screen "ScreenShield: try harder to become modal, and catch failures" [Critical,Resolved: fixed] | 02:45 |
| darkxst | but that was meant to be fixed | 02:45 |
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| slinnky | Hey, are the 13.04 betas signed for UEFI Secure Boot? Are all the flavor betas signed (K-,X-,L-,ubuntu,-Gnome)? | 09:14 |
| darkxst | slinnky, I don't know about all the flavours, but ours are | 09:31 |
| slinnky | Ah okay | 09:32 |
| slinnky | Good to know darkxst, thanks | 09:32 |
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| nazgul_ | how do I upgrade from (regular) Ubuntu 12.10 to Ubuntu Gnome 13.04 (beta) ? "upgrade-manager -c -d" and later on install the ubuntu-gnome-desktop package? | 12:19 |
| tommie-lie | nazgul_: yep, should work | 12:27 |
| nazgul_ | tommie-lie: thanks | 12:28 |
| petrus_ | hi | 14:03 |
| petrus_ | i have a poor performance on ubuntu gnome 13.04 | 14:06 |
| petrus_ | my laptop uses optimus graphics | 14:07 |
| petrus_ | installed nvidia bumbleebee but did't reconized nvidia | 14:08 |
| atrus | petrus_5: are you getting bad performance from gnome-shell, or from some application/game? | 14:20 |
| petrus_5 | from gnome-shell | 14:23 |
| petrus_5 | its the graphics performance that is poor | 14:24 |
| petrus_5 | maybe it has something to do with the support for intel hd4000 and nvidia gt540 | 14:25 |
| petrus_5 | iam in the kitchen right now, so ill be answering later | 14:27 |
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| darkxst | petrus_5, poor performance of gnome-shell or something else? | 15:12 |
| darkxst | if you want gnome-shell to run on nvidia card you probably need to edit the session file to add an optirun in there | 15:15 |
| darkxst | or you can try the new 319 drivers with optimus support, but they don't exactly appear to work out of the box currently | 15:15 |
| darkxst | jbicha, oh btw, was chatting with seb and Gunnar last night, we may have some work cutout to make sure that 3.8 lands in S | 15:48 |
| jbicha | darkxst: I think the stuff in the GNOME3 PPA is safe enough to land in S next month | 15:51 |
| jbicha | there's a few bugs with like Software Center & Nautilus and GTK 3.8 in general but there's plenty of time for those to be fixed | 15:52 |
| jbicha | gnome-control-center and settings-daemon on the other hand is far from ready | 15:52 |
| tommie-lie | wouldn't it be possible to have a seperate repository with the 3.9 stuff that updates together with the gnome development and have that go into S like it was done before unity? | 15:54 |
| jbicha | tommie-lie: basically no | 15:54 |
| tommie-lie | aw :-( | 15:55 |
| jbicha | GNOME changes so much so fast it's difficult for the Ubuntu developers to keep up | 15:55 |
| darkxst | and its also difficult to get mis-mashing packages from different versions! | 15:56 |
| tommie-lie | but often there are packages available right after the Gnome release | 15:56 |
| jbicha | it might be fixed if Unity makes it own apps for everything but I seriously doubt that the Ubuntu devs have sufficient manpower to do that in the next year | 15:56 |
| tommie-lie | who does the real maintaining for the gnome related packages in Ubuntu? you/other ubuntu-gnome people? | 15:57 |
| jbicha | yes but responsibility for half of the packages is shared with the Ubuntu Desktop team | 15:58 |
| tommie-lie | ah, ok, so that's the problem... | 15:58 |
| darkxst | tommie-lie, no the problem is that ubuntu heavily patch core parts of gnome | 15:59 |
| jbicha | for instance, external panels in gnome-control-center are a core part of Ubuntu's design but GNOME broke them in the 3.8 cycle | 15:59 |
| tommie-lie | darkxst: yes, that's what I meant, Ubuntu Desktop sees things differently than Gnome and that's part of the problem | 16:00 |
| jbicha | Canonical's desktop team is undermanned because much of the team is working on the Ubuntu phone platform too | 16:00 |
| darkxst | well yes, but the real problem comes from sharing the same stack | 16:00 |
| jbicha | and now that Ubuntu is a mature product, Ubuntu doesn't want the risk of regressions (and additional work) just to have a few more features | 16:01 |
| tommie-lie | darkxst: yep, having "Unity applications" instead of using half of the Gnome stuff and modifying them to their needs would help, I think | 16:02 |
| tommie-lie | but sure resources are limited | 16:02 |
| camelinahat | jbicha, So does that mean that eventually, Unity Next will actually make it easier for keeping up with Gnome releases? | 16:34 |
| jbicha | possibly, it depends on whether Unity for traditional computers will use the same apps as the phone or not | 16:35 |
| darkxst | I don't see how it will help | 16:38 |
| darkxst | not in the near future atleast | 16:39 |
| petrus_5 | i have ubuntu 13.04 gnome 3.8.019 installed, ive got slow performance on gnome-shell | 16:39 |
| camelinahat | I thought that was the point, that Unity on the desktop goes QT as well as that on the phones etc. But no that would be at least a year away | 16:43 |
| darkxst | petrus_5, gnome-shell should run fine on intel 4000 | 16:44 |
| darkxst | but I have to go now | 16:45 |
| petrus_5 | no, slow perfomance when switching applications | 16:47 |
| jbicha | camelinahat: well that's one way they could do, the other is that if you use Ubuntu on a desktop you get access to more powerful (gnome) apps | 17:02 |
| spazmando | hello | 17:11 |
| camelinahat | :( Since updating this morning I notice pulseaudio using up every spare bit of cpu usage after startup. | 18:59 |
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