[02:29] jbicha, backported fixes for bugs 1064022, 1077546 [02:29] bug 1064022 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "gnome-shell crashed with signal 5 in st_widget_get_theme_node()" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1064022 [02:29] bug 1077546 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "Gnome Shell sudo dialog said "Sorry, that didn't work. Please try again" when opening Synaptic" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1077546 [02:29] can you upload them before freeze, if no one else gets to them! [02:31] darkxst: yes I'll do it tomorrow before freeze [02:39] thanks [02:45] meh, screenshield is still failing sometimes, with what looks like https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=689106 [02:45] Gnome bug 689106 in lock-screen "ScreenShield: try harder to become modal, and catch failures" [Critical,Resolved: fixed] [02:45] but that was meant to be fixed === bersace_nss_ is now known as bersace_nss [09:14] Hey, are the 13.04 betas signed for UEFI Secure Boot? Are all the flavor betas signed (K-,X-,L-,ubuntu,-Gnome)? [09:31] slinnky, I don't know about all the flavours, but ours are [09:32] Ah okay [09:32] Good to know darkxst, thanks === slinnky is now known as BukitBitking === BukitBitking is now known as CENTRALBANKER === CENTRALBANKER is now known as USA [12:19] how do I upgrade from (regular) Ubuntu 12.10 to Ubuntu Gnome 13.04 (beta) ? "upgrade-manager -c -d" and later on install the ubuntu-gnome-desktop package? [12:27] nazgul_: yep, should work [12:28] tommie-lie: thanks [14:03] hi [14:06] i have a poor performance on ubuntu gnome 13.04 [14:07] my laptop uses optimus graphics [14:08] installed nvidia bumbleebee but did't reconized nvidia [14:20] petrus_5: are you getting bad performance from gnome-shell, or from some application/game? [14:23] from gnome-shell [14:24] its the graphics performance that is poor [14:25] maybe it has something to do with the support for intel hd4000 and nvidia gt540 [14:27] iam in the kitchen right now, so ill be answering later === slinnky is now known as BOOMSHAKALAKA [15:12] petrus_5, poor performance of gnome-shell or something else? [15:15] if you want gnome-shell to run on nvidia card you probably need to edit the session file to add an optirun in there [15:15] or you can try the new 319 drivers with optimus support, but they don't exactly appear to work out of the box currently [15:48] jbicha, oh btw, was chatting with seb and Gunnar last night, we may have some work cutout to make sure that 3.8 lands in S [15:51] darkxst: I think the stuff in the GNOME3 PPA is safe enough to land in S next month [15:52] there's a few bugs with like Software Center & Nautilus and GTK 3.8 in general but there's plenty of time for those to be fixed [15:52] gnome-control-center and settings-daemon on the other hand is far from ready [15:54] wouldn't it be possible to have a seperate repository with the 3.9 stuff that updates together with the gnome development and have that go into S like it was done before unity? [15:54] tommie-lie: basically no [15:55] aw :-( [15:55] GNOME changes so much so fast it's difficult for the Ubuntu developers to keep up [15:56] and its also difficult to get mis-mashing packages from different versions! [15:56] but often there are packages available right after the Gnome release [15:56] it might be fixed if Unity makes it own apps for everything but I seriously doubt that the Ubuntu devs have sufficient manpower to do that in the next year [15:57] who does the real maintaining for the gnome related packages in Ubuntu? you/other ubuntu-gnome people? [15:58] yes but responsibility for half of the packages is shared with the Ubuntu Desktop team [15:58] ah, ok, so that's the problem... [15:59] tommie-lie, no the problem is that ubuntu heavily patch core parts of gnome [15:59] for instance, external panels in gnome-control-center are a core part of Ubuntu's design but GNOME broke them in the 3.8 cycle [16:00] darkxst: yes, that's what I meant, Ubuntu Desktop sees things differently than Gnome and that's part of the problem [16:00] Canonical's desktop team is undermanned because much of the team is working on the Ubuntu phone platform too [16:00] well yes, but the real problem comes from sharing the same stack [16:01] and now that Ubuntu is a mature product, Ubuntu doesn't want the risk of regressions (and additional work) just to have a few more features [16:02] darkxst: yep, having "Unity applications" instead of using half of the Gnome stuff and modifying them to their needs would help, I think [16:02] but sure resources are limited [16:34] jbicha, So does that mean that eventually, Unity Next will actually make it easier for keeping up with Gnome releases? [16:35] possibly, it depends on whether Unity for traditional computers will use the same apps as the phone or not [16:38] I don't see how it will help [16:39] not in the near future atleast [16:39] i have ubuntu 13.04 gnome 3.8.019 installed, ive got slow performance on gnome-shell [16:43] I thought that was the point, that Unity on the desktop goes QT as well as that on the phones etc. But no that would be at least a year away [16:44] petrus_5, gnome-shell should run fine on intel 4000 [16:45] but I have to go now [16:47] no, slow perfomance when switching applications [17:02] camelinahat: well that's one way they could do, the other is that if you use Ubuntu on a desktop you get access to more powerful (gnome) apps [17:11] hello [18:59] :( Since updating this morning I notice pulseaudio using up every spare bit of cpu usage after startup.