[06:14] <trender> ....
[06:14] <trender> (.) (.)
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[06:15] <Kilos> morning all
[06:30] <inetpro> good morning
[06:31] <trender> moning inetpro
[06:33] <Kilos> hi inetpro 
[07:06] <magespawn> good morning y'all
[07:08] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[07:11] <Kilos> hi not_found 
[07:12] <not_found> alo
[07:32] <Squirm> hi
[07:32] <Squirm> trender: this isn't the place to show your boobs. I'm sure there are channels for that
[07:32] <Squirm> :P
[07:34] <trender> those are eyes man :)
[07:34] <trender> eish
[07:47] <not_found> >.<
[07:48] <Squirm> trender: I know :P
[07:48] <Squirm> but they don't just look like eyes ^^
[07:50] <trender> ( | ) << and this is a butterfly
[07:50] <trender> :)
[08:12] <trender> mornin mr Georgl
[08:12] <Georgl> good morning trender
[08:13] <Georgl> any progress?
[08:13] <trender> hrm
[08:13] <trender> yea yea always
[08:13] <Kilos> hi Georgl 
[08:13] <Georgl> morning Kilos
[08:13] <trender> i have plenty resources mate
[08:13] <trender> in all countries
[08:14] <trender> im communicating with the engineer dirrectly now in korea
[08:14] <Georgl> that's great
[08:15] <trender> i dont expect thier sollution to be the best even
[08:17] <Georgl> but i am sure a step in the right direction?
[08:18] <trender> means to an end yea
[08:18] <trender> at least to fix 100 boxes fast
[08:20] <trender> arg well mabee just move on to other ventures
[08:20] <trender> the cubieboard interests me next
[08:21] <trender> im gonna see what those can do 
[08:25] <trender> soon we gonna have stamp linux pcs if there arent any already
[08:27] <Georgl> there a bit around already
[08:27] <trender> i just want something cheap with a sata interface
[08:27] <trender> the cubieboard looks a candidate
[08:28] <Georgl> have not looked at as yet
[08:28] <trender> the PI is gonna die i think
[08:28] <trender> new tech doesnt last long these days
[08:28] <Georgl> it has its place out there
[08:29] <Georgl> there is still a huge following for pi's all around.
[08:29] <trender> i odnt even know why people pruduce these products for a bowl of rice
[08:29] <trender> dont
[08:29] <trender> produce..arg
[08:29] <trender> i wouldnt produce PI for those prices
[08:29] <trender> its insane
[08:30] <Squirm> I like the idea behind the Pi
[08:30] <trender> people still only buy a handfull in spite of the hype you hear
[08:31] <Squirm> trender: I have a Pi, past few days I've been looking through their website
[08:31] <Squirm> you should see what people are doing with them
[08:31] <trender> ive got some idea what people do with PI
[08:32] <Squirm> I'm about to buy another Pi(kinda broke this one and it has 256mb as apposed to the new 512Mb version
[08:32] <trender> you looked at cubie ?
[08:32] <trender> or do the GPIO things matter to you ?
[08:33] <trender> well prices hit the ground on PI now
[08:34] <trender> the uk prices look the best..cant tell you why though makes no sence to me
[08:36] <trender> need to dig in chinas bins some more
[08:39] <Squirm> I want to buy a Pi, a GertBoard and their PiCam will probably be released this month
[08:40] <Squirm> the Gertboard is an easy conversion for the GPIO
[08:40] <Squirm> gives you Analogue and Digital In/Out and is easily programmable
[08:40] <Squirm> sits neatly on top on the Pi
[08:42] <magespawn> did you see someone designed a case for pi out of lego?
[08:42] <Squirm> magespawn: let me find you a link about Pi and Lego
[08:42] <superfly> ohi from ScaleConf
[08:43] <Squirm> lo superfly
[08:43] <magespawn> hey superfly
[08:43] <Squirm> superfly: I think henkj is there too
[08:43] <Kilos> hi superfly 
[08:43] <superfly> Squirm: he is, I saw him earlier
[08:44] <superfly> so is ThatGraemeGuy
[08:44] <Squirm> I want to be there :/
[08:45] <magespawn> what is it about?
[08:45] <Squirm> I need to start making a mission to go to these tech talks
[08:45] <Squirm> magespawn: http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2012/09/iridis-pi-supercomputer.jpg
[08:45] <Squirm> raspberry Pi Supercomputer
[08:45] <Squirm> housed in Lego
[08:45] <superfly> my boss is speaking right now
[08:46] <Squirm> http://www.kurzweilai.net/images/raspberry_pi_supercomputer_5.jpg
[08:46] <Squirm> there you can see it
[08:47] <Squirm> superfly: they need Live Streaming :/
[08:47] <magespawn> very cool, how did they get it all working together?
[08:47] <magespawn> software?
[08:48] <Squirm> magespawn: yes, I had a look at it
[08:48] <Squirm> at the software
[08:48] <Squirm> you kind of, make each one a node, controlled by one Pi
[08:49] <magespawn> what can it do? processing power?
[08:49] <Squirm> so you give your core Pi, say a sum to work out, e.g, to find the root of Pi. Then it spreads the load among all the units
[08:49] <Squirm> these huge datacentre wide supercomputers use the exact same principle
[08:50] <Squirm> except they run in petaflops, I don't know how much you'd get out of a bank of Pi's
[08:51] <magespawn> well it looks like there are about 64 Pi there
[08:51] <trender> only loads of fun by the looks of things
[08:52] <magespawn> indeed 
[08:52] <Squirm> there are
[08:52] <magespawn> so 700Mhz * 64
[08:52] <magespawn> Maaz 700 * 64
[08:52] <Maaz> magespawn: 44800
[08:53] <magespawn> how to convert Mhz in flops?
[08:53] <Squirm> ~4GHz
[08:53] <Squirm> uh
[08:53] <Squirm> flops is different
[08:53] <Squirm> flops is calculations done per second
[08:53] <superfly> magespawn: you can't, they're completely different
[08:53] <Squirm> Hertz is speed
[08:53] <Squirm> well
[08:53] <Squirm> frequency
[08:54] <tonberryE352> 64 very slow 700mhz processors...
[08:54] <trender> is also depends on the architecture risc cores tend to be 1:1 per clock
[08:54] <trender> so mips could be the same
[08:54] <trender> could be rather fast
[08:55] <tonberryE352> a single pi is about as fast as a 300mhzish p2
[08:55] <trender> could well be likely
[08:55] <Squirm> magespawn: http://upload.wikimedia.org/math/f/e/d/fede3df8fbbb36650e89a724c6ae0fe3.png I'll leave it up to you to calculate that
[08:56] <Squirm> 700MHz ARM processor
[08:56] <Squirm> so I guess..
[08:56] <tonberryE352> only practical use for a pi cluster is to experiment with or teach cluster computing
[08:56] <tonberryE352> not to do real calculations
[08:56] <Squirm> they were just messing around when they did that
[08:57] <trender> yea its not gonna give you supercomputing
[08:57] <tonberryE352> a single modern quad core cpu could more or less keep up with 64 PIs
[08:57] <trender> just a nice experiment
[08:57] <tonberryE352> at least it looked that way last time i did some very quick math
[08:57] <tonberryE352> and keeping 64 PIs going will be a task in itself
[08:58] <trender> very hard to equate to many vairable to considder
[08:58] <trender> variables
[08:59] <trender> its not supposed to compared to pcs
[08:59] <Squirm> if I had R400 in my bank account I'd buy a Pi right now
[08:59] <Squirm> :/
[09:00]  * tonberryE352 has 2
[09:00] <Squirm> tonberryE352: I broke mine
[09:00] <trender> you not bitcoin mining hard enough Squirm lol
[09:00] <Squirm> but I want to stick it onto my quadcopter. Hook up a webcam and WiFi dongle and stream wirelessly
[09:00] <Squirm> trender: obviously not :/
[09:01] <trender> and the rpice of warcraft gold has hit the floor :)
[09:01] <trender> price
[09:03] <magespawn> http://elinux.org/RPi_Performance
[09:04] <magespawn> it is a nice toy 
[09:05] <magespawn> you could use it for simple household automation
[09:05] <trender> youd want to leverage its muscle with something meaningfull
[09:06] <Squirm> magespawn: that's why I want a Gerboard
[09:06] <Squirm> it provides an easy interface for the GPIO
[09:07] <magespawn> http://hackaday.com/2012/09/12/64-rasberry-pis-turned-into-a-supercomputer/
[09:07] <magespawn> according to that you would need about 1.4 Million Raspi's to get into the top 500 
[09:08] <magespawn> if could get that many pi's it would be a record on its own
[09:08] <tonberryE352> it always bothered me that they used 64 seperate pi power supplies instead of a few big ones...
[09:09] <magespawn> redundancy maybe
[09:09] <tonberryE352> more likely they were CSes and not engineers
[09:10] <tonberryE352> or lazy
[09:10] <magespawn> that article says is can all be run from a single 13A supply
[09:10] <magespawn> s/is/is
[09:10] <magespawn> s/id/it
[09:10] <tonberryE352> http://www.southampton.ac.uk/~sjc/raspberrypi/pi_supercomputer_southampton.htm
[09:10] <magespawn> lol
[09:10] <tonberryE352> then why use 64...
[09:10] <magespawn> no idea
[09:10] <tonberryE352> 13A?
[09:11] <tonberryE352> pi needs at least 500ma each
[09:11] <tonberryE352> usually more
[09:15] <Squirm> Maaz: 13000/64
[09:15] <Maaz> Squirm: 203.125
[09:15] <Squirm> I see what you mean
[09:27] <magespawn> this makes for interesting readin especially the table showing the costs
[09:27] <magespawn> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FLOPS
[11:06] <inetpro> Kilos: what are you doing wrong again?
[11:07] <Kilos> i swapped from maverick to kde inetpro 
[11:07] <inetpro> uitgevang!
[11:14] <charl> good afternoon
[11:14] <charl> Maaz: coffee on
[11:14]  * Maaz starts grinding coffee
[11:14] <magespawn> Maaz coffee please
[11:14] <Maaz> magespawn: Sure
[11:15] <magespawn> large
[11:15] <magespawn> Maaz Large
[11:15] <Maaz> In a beer mug just for you magespawn
[11:15] <magespawn> hey charl
[11:16] <Kilos> lol
[11:16] <Kilos> lo charl 
[11:16] <Kilos> Maaz: coffee please
[11:16] <Maaz> Kilos: Done
[11:17] <Kilos> Maaz: large
[11:17] <Maaz> In a beer mug just for you Kilos
[11:17] <Kilos> also as well
[11:18] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl, magespawn and Kilos!
[11:19] <Kilos> Maaz: ta
[11:19] <Maaz> Dis 'n groot plesier
[11:19] <magespawn> Maaz botsnack
[11:19] <Maaz> :)
[11:19] <not_found> http://youtu.be/ASO_zypdnsQ
[11:19] <magespawn> Coffee is for geeks as sunshine is for plants
[12:08] <Vince-0> heerlikheid I'm bored
[12:08] <Vince-0> bored at work is not a good thing
[12:11] <Squirm> lol
[12:12] <Squirm> download the internet
[12:12] <Squirm> onto your Pi
[12:27] <magespawn> Vince-0: is there work to be done?
[12:55] <not_found> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVTfszppJl8&feature=share&list=PL5AB4B8F2A335A9F7
[12:58] <Kilos> hi gaffa welcome to ubuntu-za
[12:58] <Kilos> hmm... masked and all
[13:01] <Kilos> no noob to irc
[13:05] <Kilos> inetpro: its not a sin to enjoy maverick
[13:07] <inetpro> Kilos: uh?
[13:53] <Vince-0> magespawn, negative /me twiddles thumbs
[14:26] <charl> hi magespawn, Kilos 
[14:28] <magespawn> later all
[14:30] <charl> ciao magespawn 
[14:31] <Kilos> hi charl 
[14:38] <charl> ciao all
[14:52] <Squirm> snow on the Drakensberg again today :/
[14:52] <Squirm> I mean really... It's April
[14:58] <Squirm> hmm, home time
[16:20] <gaffa> hi and thank you, Kilos :)
[16:20] <Kilos> tell us abnout yourself gaffa 
[16:22] <gaffa> I'm from Denmark. A programmer using debian as an operating system. I love Sibusiso Zuma, please convince him to come back and play for FC Copenhagen ;P
[16:24] <Kilos> lol
[16:25] <Kilos> how did you find this channel
[16:25] <Kilos> we have a few peeps in foreign countries here
[16:27] <gaffa> I was just looking to socialize with a broader bunch of free software people and started joining local irc channels for ubuntu and debian in languages I understand or almost do ;)
[16:27] <Kilos> ah well you are welcome
[16:28] <gaffa> Thank you very much :)
[16:29] <gaffa> How is Ubuntu doing in South Africa?
[16:32] <Kilos> good i think. we love it. got a couple of ubuntu dev guys here too and python experts
[16:32] <Kilos> some use other linux flavours though
[16:39] <gaffa> Sounds great. See ya, the Pizza is here! :)
[16:42] <Kilos> lol
[17:05] <Kilos> hi georgelappies kodez Mezenir drussell 
[17:05] <trender> yo kilos
[17:05] <Kilos> yo trender 
[17:06] <trender> kfc need some gens huh
[17:06] <trender> had to eat woolies
[17:06] <trender> power down here all day
[17:09] <Mezenir> hi kilos
[17:09] <Mezenir> hi all
[17:12] <kodez> hi uncle kilos
[17:37] <georgelappies> hi Kilos 
[18:14] <inetpro> good evening
[18:14] <inetpro> highvoltage: wb
[18:15] <Kilos> hi inetpro 
[18:18] <inetpro> Kilos: you are way to quiet
[18:19] <Kilos> well you guys say i talk too much
[18:20] <Kilos> so now i play freecell
[18:33] <highvoltage> hey inetpro and Kilos 
[18:50] <inetpro> Kilos: nee man
[18:50] <Kilos> lol
[18:54] <inetpro> Kilos: ek sien die koue is op pad?
[18:54] <Kilos> ja dis baie naby
[18:55] <Kilos> en so vroeg al inetpro 
[18:55] <Kilos> sneeu vanaand in lesotho en drakensberge
[18:55] <inetpro> eish
[18:57] <Kilos> as die suide wind waai gaan ons eina koud kry
[19:12] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[20:45] <trender> (.)(.)
[20:45] <trender>   __