| SonikkuAmerica | Yeah... http://xfce.org/projects | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| SonikkuAmerica | The "Core Components" section is what you want not to touch. | 00:00 |
| Guest19 | I am testing mint cinnamon on a HP dv9000 and it just seems to have too many small gltches | 00:01 |
| SonikkuAmerica | !mint | 00:01 |
| ubottu | Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org | 00:01 |
| Guest19 | that is why I am investigating xubuntu | 00:02 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Oh. | 00:02 |
| SonikkuAmerica | By the way, random question: How do you pronounce Xubuntu? | 00:02 |
| Guest19 | no clue | 00:03 |
| SonikkuAmerica | I've heard Zoobuntu, Ecks-ubuntu and Ksubuntu... | 00:03 |
| David-A | SonikkuAmerica: I think they are all right (different languages/countries have different pronunciation rules) | 00:04 |
| SonikkuAmerica | I had this long argument with GridCube over it | 00:04 |
| Guest19 | anyway mint is just having X server problems on this lappy | 00:05 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Oi | 00:05 |
| Guest19 | So I am hoping that Xubuntu will be a bit better | 00:05 |
| SonikkuAmerica | It could be. What's your hardware look like? [ lspci ] | 00:06 |
| Guest19 | intel core duo 2 core 3gig ram nvidia GO 8600m intell chipset and networking | 00:07 |
| SonikkuAmerica | What's an nVidia GO? | 00:08 |
| Guest19 | one drive is an intelSSD x25' a 500ghitachi and a lightscribe DVD | 00:09 |
| Guest19 | mobile version of a 8600GS | 00:09 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Oh | 00:10 |
| Guest19 | want to put root on the SSD | 00:10 |
| Guest19 | and home,var,temp,and user on the 500 platter | 00:10 |
| David-A | Guest19: /user ? you mean /usr ? | 00:13 |
| Guest19 | yea | 00:14 |
| Guest19 | anything that would have a lot of writes on the platter drive | 00:15 |
| David-A | Guest19: /usr is not short for "user". it makes more sense to think of it as part of the system, like /etc, /bin, etc, that you would have on the SSD | 00:15 |
| Guest19 | also if I make the OS mad by my tinkkering I won't lose my settings during a re install | 00:16 |
| David-A | Guest19: I'd think you'd have the system on the SSD for performance reasons. blindlingly fast program starts. (I am not an expert, but ... "wear" on an SSD should not be a major concern these days, I think) | 00:18 |
| Guest19 | it is fast with mint right now, but the little glitches with it are making me look at xubuntu | 00:20 |
| Guest19 | with just / on the SSD and a few programs on a 40G drive there is alot ofextra space for wear leveling | 00:22 |
| Dr-Dave | Sooo, here is what I need to do --- I would like to have remote access to a computer on my home network... access from within the home network and access from my mobile/cellular internet. What do I need to install on on the -remote- computer and what do I need to install on the -controlling- computer. Also, with regards to the accessing the -remote- computer from outside my network... do I need a separate computer as a VPN server or an SSH server and if so, | 00:22 |
| Dr-Dave | what should I install? | 00:22 |
| Dr-Dave | I just need command line access ... not graphical | 00:23 |
| GridCube | Dr-Dave, i would recommend you owncloud, or a mpd server, or even a samba server | 00:24 |
| David-A | Guest19: the drive does not know of the file system. wear leveling is taking place about the same if the file has plenty of free space or not. | 00:24 |
| David-A | Guest19: but if the filesystem is very full it may suffer fragmentation, which may reduce performance and increase wear on the drive | 00:27 |
| Guest19 | from my experience if you have a 2:1 ratio of free space to used or more | 00:27 |
| Guest19 | it better | 00:27 |
| Dr-Dave | GridCube -- I just need to have command line access to the -remote- computer. IE, for rebooting, update installations, shutting down etc... I'm not transfering files or anything. However, I need to do that when I'm on my network, and when I'm mobile or on a different network like the Library, a friends house or something. | 00:28 |
| Guest19 | so i'm using about 10g of a 40g drive | 00:28 |
| Guest19 | room enough for any trim or wear function | 00:29 |
| David-A | Guest19: you mean like 33% full (66% free)? that sounds little. (in my experience with rotating drives, fragmentation seems develop when over 90% full (10% free)) | 00:30 |
| Guest19 | nand doesn't work like that | 00:32 |
| Guest19 | it has to play with the whole block or nothing | 00:32 |
| Guest19 | got to let the cat out be back | 00:33 |
| David-A | Guest19: I know. wear leveling moves data around when a block is written. it does not matter how full the file system is. but fragmentation matters, because then data is written to more blocks. | 00:36 |
| GridCube | Dr-Dave, oh then a ssh server its what you need | 00:38 |
| David-A | Guest19: will you be using a file system type that is designed for SSDs? | 00:38 |
| GridCube | Dr-Dave, there is putty apps for symbian android an so on, to log in to the ssh servers | 00:38 |
| SonikkuAmerica | David-A: extN is not recommended for SSDs? | 00:38 |
| GridCube | !ssh | 00:38 |
| ubottu | SSH is the Secure SHell protocol, see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH for client usage. PuTTY is an SSH client for Windows; see: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ for it's homepage. See also !scp (Secure CoPy) and !sshd (Secure SHell Daemon) | 00:38 |
| Dr-Dave | GridCube == do I install SSH server on the --remote-- computer? | 00:39 |
| GridCube | Dr-Dave, you install the server in the machine you want to control | 00:39 |
| GridCube | and the clients in the clients that want to control the machine | 00:39 |
| Guest19 | David-A: right now it running with ext4 | 00:40 |
| Dr-Dave | GridCube -- OK, I'll give that a try. I'm assuming that Xubuntu does not have that SSH stuff installed. ==Back in the day== of Ubuntu 10.04LTS ... I was able to SSH in from a winDOHs box with putty without installing anything.... | 00:41 |
| Guest19 | David-A: that is why I want a large free to used ratio | 00:41 |
| Guest19 | David-A: run fstrim once a week or so and I see no speed loss | 00:42 |
| GridCube | Dr-Dave, i dont remember if its there, i would read the help page i pasted you | 00:43 |
| Dr-Dave | GridCube -- I thank you, and I'll give this a try. I was kinda thinking the SSH goodies was already installed and was figuring there was some change somewhere along the way durring version changes. Thanks again. | 00:45 |
| GridCube | Dr-Dave, no worries and good luck | 00:45 |
| David-A | Guest19: if you have moved /tmp, /home and /log from the SSD, there won't be frequent writes and very little wear. (have /usr on the SSD and have very good performance) | 00:46 |
| Guest19 | that about what I did and it is working well | 00:47 |
| Guest19 | I did put /usr on the platter drive as well | 00:48 |
| Guest19 | although i could put /usr in it's own portition on the SSD | 00:49 |
| Guest19 | *partition | 00:49 |
| David-A | Guest19: then, but /usr back on the SSD. I think it belongs to the "system" and it should make it more speedy. /usr is not write intense like /tmp or /var | 00:50 |
| Guest19 | true, just want to protect it for my experimenting if I have to do a rinstall | 00:50 |
| Guest19 | *re-install | 00:51 |
| David-A | Guest19: aha, you have programs installed that are not .deb or from the repos | 00:52 |
| Guest19 | not really but I have done some really stupid tricks will I was learning | 00:53 |
| David-A | Guest19: but a re-install would want to create files in /usr too. could be the same kind of mess as if you had it on the root partition. | 00:53 |
| Guest19 | broken kernels broke X if you could break it I did | 00:54 |
| Guest19 | that fine it would still preserve my confg files | 00:54 |
| David-A | the perfect experience gatherer :) | 00:55 |
| Guest19 | as long as I didn't format it | 00:55 |
| Guest19 | can not seem to type well today could be due to watching he hockey game | 00:57 |
| David-A | Guest19: the config files are in /etc (I always add a comment "# david 2013-04-18 bla bla bla" when I manually edit config files, so I can find them and copy them to /home before a re-install) | 00:57 |
| Guest19 | There are also hidden config files for software in usr and home | 00:58 |
| Guest19 | firefox, thunderbird and skype hawe hidden config files in both usr and home | 00:59 |
| Guest19 | so does VMWare | 00:59 |
| David-A | Guest19: if you change config files in /usr you'd have to handle that the same as when you change config files in /etc. | 01:04 |
| Guest19 | No I'm not wantinng to change them just preserve them when i have to do a re=install | 01:05 |
| Guest19 | it worxs really well | 01:05 |
| David-A | Guest19: I don't understand what you are doing in /usr, and how a separat mount would help re-installing. It's late and I may never understand. May we drop it? | 01:09 |
| Guest19 | David-A: sure third period is starting and I want to watch | 01:09 |
| Guest19 | a good time was had | 01:09 |
| Guest19 | thatk you | 01:09 |
| David-A | have a nice watch | 01:10 |
| KombuchaKip | Richard Stallman on 9/11 being an inside job: <http://www2.ae911truth.org/profile.php?uid=979964> <http://stallman.org/archives/2009-jan-apr.html#07%20April%202009%20%28Thermite%29> | 01:12 |
| Myrtti | ok? | 01:13 |
| SonikkuAmerica | KombuchaKip: He's quite notably anti-Semitic. | 01:14 |
| KombuchaKip | SonikkuAmerica: He's Jewish, but regardless, what does that have to do with nano-thermite? | 01:15 |
| KombuchaKip | SonikkuAmerica: He didn't say who he thought had done it, only that he wanted a new investigation. | 01:15 |
| SonikkuAmerica | KombuchaKip: Oh, I read the whole article. | 01:15 |
| SonikkuAmerica | KombuchaKip: I'm quite surprised at the number of anti-Zionist Jews out there (of all the anti-Zionist people groups), that's all. | 01:16 |
| Myrtti | how is this relevant to Xubuntu? | 01:16 |
| KombuchaKip | Myrtti: It's off topic. | 01:16 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Myrtti: AFAIK it isn't. | 01:16 |
| SonikkuAmerica | !ot | 01:16 |
| ubottu | #xubuntu is the Xubuntu support channel, #xubuntu-devel for discussion regarding development of Xubuntu, and #xubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome! | 01:16 |
| Myrtti | well then | 01:16 |
| m0ther | hello | 04:05 |
| rusman | hi | 07:12 |
| rusman | how can upgrade my xubuntu's weather plugin? | 07:12 |
| baizon | rusman: ? | 07:20 |
| rusman | i installed xubuntu | 07:20 |
| rusman | 12.04 | 07:20 |
| baizon | what weather plugin? | 07:20 |
| rusman | xfce4-weather-plugin | 07:20 |
| baizon | rusman: it will upgrade automatically | 07:21 |
| rusman | i guess it was not | 07:21 |
| baizon | what version do you have? | 07:21 |
| packetfrog | rusman: http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/panel-plugins/xfce4-weather-plugin | 07:21 |
| packetfrog | 0.8.3 (2013-02-18) is newest | 07:21 |
| baizon | ou well youre right | 07:22 |
| baizon | there is a new version :D | 07:22 |
| packetfrog | http://git.xfce.org/panel-plugins/xfce4-weather-plugin/ | 07:22 |
| packetfrog | ^ | 07:22 |
| packetfrog | Get jiggy | 07:22 |
| rusman | baizon it did not show version | 07:22 |
| baizon | rusman: you can download it from the raring repo | 07:22 |
| baizon | rusman: you have the 0.7.4 version | 07:22 |
| baizon | rusman: http://packages.ubuntu.com/raring/xfce4-weather-plugin | 07:23 |
| aiena | hi guys !! I am trying to use fdisk-l to identify my pen drive it executes in terminal but does not give any output can someone tell me why | 07:24 |
| aiena | hmm it works with sudo very odd | 07:25 |
| rusman | baizon please help me download plugin | 07:26 |
| Myrtti | baizon: uhoh | 07:27 |
| rusman | baizon should i download all dependencies? | 07:27 |
| Myrtti | rusman: why do you want the newer one? | 07:27 |
| Myrtti | rusman: wait a moment | 07:28 |
| rusman | because this one has unreadable font | 07:28 |
| rusman | very very small | 07:28 |
| Myrtti | you probably can change it? | 07:29 |
| aiena | rusman: u nreadable font where | 07:29 |
| rusman | no there is no option | 07:29 |
| aiena | whic app | 07:29 |
| aiena | *which | 07:29 |
| rusman | aiena on the panel | 07:29 |
| rusman | aiena xfce4-weather-plugin | 07:30 |
| aiena | I am trying to format a pen drive fdisk-l would not give any output untill i used sudo fdisk-l | 07:33 |
| aiena | I have identified the postition of the pen drive as /dev/sdb | 07:33 |
| aiena | now when I runsudo mkfs.vfat /dev/sdb it states that the device is busy | 07:34 |
| aiena | devicde or resource busy | 07:34 |
| packetfrog | rusman Did you look under appearance in the settings menu? | 07:34 |
| packetfrog | aiena unmount it | 07:34 |
| rusman | packetfrog yes i did | 07:34 |
| rusman | packetfrog but found nothing in settings | 07:35 |
| packetfrog | rusman Try the text settings in the dock settings menu | 07:35 |
| aiena | packetfrog: if I unmount it I cant format it | 07:35 |
| packetfrog | O_o | 07:35 |
| rusman | o_O | 07:36 |
| packetfrog | aiena you cant format it mounted | 07:36 |
| rusman | aiena use GParted | 07:36 |
| aiena | but if it is unpounted sudo fdisk -l does not show it up | 07:36 |
| aiena | *unmounted | 07:37 |
| aiena | so it is difficult to identify the location of an unmounted usb drive | 07:37 |
| aiena | and I maight gformat something else | 07:37 |
| aiena | *might | 07:37 |
| aiena | *format | 07:37 |
| packetfrog | aiena, sudo apt-get install gparted | 07:38 |
| aiena | rusman: gparted works for usb's too | 07:38 |
| rusman | packetfrog where is dock settings menu ? | 07:38 |
| packetfrog | rusman right click on the dock anywhere and click the lower pref menu the higher one is for whatever your clicked | 07:38 |
| packetfrog | aiena, gparted works on any drive your cant mount | 07:39 |
| packetfrog | can* | 07:39 |
| aiena | thanks | 07:39 |
| baizon | aiena: have you used sudo? | 07:39 |
| aiena | baizon yes | 07:39 |
| aiena | for both | 07:39 |
| aiena | if i did not use sufdo fdisk -l | 07:39 |
| aiena | it would not show up the device locations | 07:40 |
| aiena | i found the location to be /dev/sdb | 07:40 |
| aiena | then i used sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/sdb | 07:40 |
| aiena | it states that the device is busy | 07:40 |
| aiena | though nothing is opened from it | 07:40 |
| aiena | its just plugged it | 07:40 |
| aiena | *in | 07:40 |
| aiena | thunar is closed too | 07:40 |
| aiena | for it | 07:40 |
| rusman | packetfrog there is no font setting i need upgrade this plugin | 07:41 |
| packetfrog | hold on I will install it | 07:41 |
| rusman | no | 07:41 |
| rusman | you'll install new version | 07:42 |
| rusman | new version have this setting | 07:42 |
| packetfrog | Menu> Settings Manager> Appearance > Custom DPI | 07:43 |
| packetfrog | increase it | 07:43 |
| rusman | yes | 07:44 |
| packetfrog | Appearance > Fonts rather | 07:44 |
| rusman | no | 07:44 |
| rusman | i don't want | 07:44 |
| rusman | because it cause all system | 07:44 |
| rusman | i need only one plugin | 07:45 |
| rusman | this plugin with bug | 07:45 |
| packetfrog | there is no plugin specific text size increase on even the newest version | 07:45 |
| rusman | New option to set font size manually and removed code that did it automatically (bug #9369). Font settings can be undone by middle-clicking on the button. | 07:45 |
| ubottu | bug 9369 in linux-source-2.6.15 (Ubuntu) "i810 sound works with OSS driver, but not with ALSA driver" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/9369 | 07:45 |
| rusman | http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/panel-plugins/xfce4-weather-plugin | 07:46 |
| packetfrog | OIC | 07:46 |
| baizon | rusman: the easiest way is to use the xubuntu ppa | 07:46 |
| rusman | baizon what is it | 07:46 |
| baizon | there you have the up to date verion of the weather plugin... https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+archive/xfce-4.10 | 07:46 |
| baizon | just install the ppa and update. Done :-) | 07:47 |
| rusman | ok ill try now | 07:48 |
| packetfrog | ahhh I see it now | 07:48 |
| packetfrog | under the font menu | 07:48 |
| packetfrog | baizon is a smart sooka | 07:48 |
| packetfrog | :> | 07:48 |
| baizon | :P | 07:49 |
| yurij | hello, I have a question. Is there a way to control toolbar/icon sizes in xfce? I am getting really annoyed by LibreOffice toolbars taking up to 30% of the screen... | 07:51 |
| packetfrog | Whatcha talking about | 07:51 |
| packetfrog | you want to resize them or get rid of them? | 07:52 |
| yurij | toolbars. The lines, that usually are bellow menu with many icons to perform actions :D | 07:52 |
| yurij | I want to resize them | 07:52 |
| packetfrog | yurij Figured it out | 07:55 |
| packetfrog | one sec | 07:55 |
| packetfrog | In libreoffice (write for testing on my side) Tools> Options > (expand LibreOffice) View> change icon size small | 07:56 |
| packetfrog | yurij, ^ | 07:56 |
| packetfrog | Let me know if that works for ya | 07:57 |
| yurij | Oh, nice. Thanks a lot | 07:57 |
| yurij | It works, though I had some trouble finding menu because of translations :D | 07:57 |
| aiena | baizon: how do I give administrator priviledges to KDE partition manager ? | 07:58 |
| packetfrog | ? | 07:58 |
| baizon | aiena: sudo | 07:58 |
| packetfrog | gksudo | 07:58 |
| aiena | ok in terminal thanks | 07:58 |
| baizon | indeed, gksudo for gui | 07:58 |
| aiena | yeak gksudo uis better | 07:58 |
| aiena | *is | 07:58 |
| aiena | sudo can be dangerous for gui's | 07:58 |
| aiena | as I read | 07:58 |
| packetfrog | Life is dangerous, Live on the edge! | 07:59 |
| aiena | :P my life is always dangerous but living on the edge isnt necessary !! In this case | 07:59 |
| rusman | ppa:xubuntu-dev/xfce-4.10 | 08:00 |
| rusman | oup sorry | 08:00 |
| packetfrog | I do that all the time when using Guake :/ | 08:00 |
| rusman | baizon, packetfrog thank you. i win | 08:09 |
| packetfrog | YAY FOR WINNING | 08:09 |
| * packetfrog bows to baizons elite sooka style | 08:09 | |
| rusman | new version looks perfectly | 08:09 |
| packetfrog | rusman I even left it on my toolbar woohooo | 08:09 |
| packetfrog | not that I need to look to see the weather it just rains and rains here | 08:10 |
| packetfrog | rusman. tell your frens! #xubuntu is the support channel to be in! | 08:10 |
| rusman | ;-) | 08:10 |
| aiena | is there a way to change the layout of xubuntu e.g. bring the toppanel to the bottom and move the quick bar at the bottom to the side or hide it ? | 08:58 |
| aiena | *e,g,= | 08:58 |
| aiena | *e.g. | 08:58 |
| TheSheep | aiena: yes | 08:59 |
| aiena | how | 08:59 |
| TheSheep | aiena: just do it | 08:59 |
| aiena | I am using blender and these are getting in the way | 08:59 |
| TheSheep | aiena: right-click on the panel, select properties and change what you want | 08:59 |
| packetfrog | right click panel panel prefrences | 08:59 |
| packetfrog | the panel that is highlighted in red slashs can be dragged | 09:00 |
| packetfrog | or you can use the menu there and do whatever | 09:00 |
| aiena | packetfrog: is there a way to disable/hide the bottom quick bar temporarily so that it soes not pop up when i hover my mouise below ? | 09:01 |
| aiena | or rearrange that quick bar or whatever it is called | 09:01 |
| aiena | yep same way | 09:03 |
| aiena | thanks guys | 09:03 |
| packetfrog | :> | 09:03 |
| aiena | packetfrog: is there a way to limit how a window resizes | 09:04 |
| aiena | e.g. to set it to resize to a maximum extent smaller than the screen maximum | 09:04 |
| packetfrog | aiena, Settings Manager > Workspaces & Margins > Margins | 09:07 |
| aiena | packetfrog: hmm it automatically resizes correctly | 09:07 |
| aiena | that cool | 09:07 |
| aiena | thanks !! | 09:08 |
| packetfrog | Its the best thing I can think of for what you want | 09:08 |
| aiena | packetfrog: I want to change the orientation of the xubuntu menu | 09:08 |
| aiena | I want to have the xubuntu menu pop up instead of down | 09:08 |
| aiena | I prefer my panel down | 09:08 |
| packetfrog | You want that bar on the bottom of the screen like windows? | 09:09 |
| aiena | yes | 09:09 |
| aiena | but the menu gets hidden | 09:09 |
| packetfrog | by what? | 09:09 |
| aiena | it moves down out of the screen like default | 09:09 |
| aiena | instead of up | 09:09 |
| aiena | so it does not show | 09:09 |
| aiena | if uyou press the xubuntu logo | 09:10 |
| aiena | the menu normally drops down | 09:10 |
| aiena | like the file menu in windows | 09:11 |
| aiena | now if i drag the panel to the bottom of the screen all is fine | 09:11 |
| aiena | but the menu still drops down | 09:11 |
| aiena | and i cant see it | 09:11 |
| aiena | anyway to fix that ? | 09:11 |
| aiena | hmm now it seems to work | 09:13 |
| aiena | maybe it was not completely down | 09:13 |
| aiena | sigh | 09:13 |
| packetfrog | it works when I change mine... | 09:14 |
| aiena | yup now its ok | 09:14 |
| packetfrog | :> | 09:14 |
| aiena | sorry to bother you | 09:14 |
| packetfrog | yours must have been high on crack for a minute | 09:14 |
| packetfrog | no bother | 09:14 |
| packetfrog | :) | 09:14 |
| aiena | :P | 09:14 |
| aiena | probably lol | 09:14 |
| * aiena grins | 09:14 | |
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| === packetfrog is now known as tadpole | ||
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| aiena | how do i install an icon to use for a launcher i have the icon file | 10:07 |
| aiena | the icn does not appear in the icon launcher select icon list | 10:08 |
| aiena | *icon | 10:08 |
| aiena | I have the file | 10:08 |
| TheSheep | aiena: there is a dropdown at the top of the icon selection dialog | 10:08 |
| aiena | ah found it | 10:08 |
| TheSheep | aiena: select 'image files' from it | 10:08 |
| aiena | yes thanks TheSheep | 10:08 |
| artearte | Hey guys, I have been trying to disable my discrete graphics card for quite a while and now I think I did. Does anybody know how I can make sure it's off? lspci still lists it. | 11:12 |
| baizon | artearte: this command egrep -i " connected|card detect|primary dev" /var/log/Xorg.0.log | 11:14 |
| packetfrog | artearte, http://forums.eukhost.com/f15/how-do-i-turn-off-discrete-graphics-card-ubuntu-linux-hybrid-graphics-17897/#.UW_Vc6ClfVM | 11:14 |
| packetfrog | You can turn if off in your BIOS as well most likely | 11:14 |
| artearte | Can't do that in HP bios sadly. I had already tried turning it off via switcheroo but since I still get [ 14.120] (II) intel(0): Output LVDS1 connected[ 14.142] (WW) RADEON(G0): No outputs definitely connected, trying again...[ 14.142] (WW) RADEON(G0): Unable to find connected outputs - setting 1024x768 initial framebuffer I guess I hadn't. | 11:19 |
| antisober552 | Hi guys | 11:21 |
| baizon | hi andrzejr | 11:21 |
| packetfrog | artearte, lspci shows my nvidia card but I know its not in use. | 11:21 |
| baizon | hi antisober552 | 11:21 |
| packetfrog | hello mrhigh552 | 11:22 |
| artearte | That was the output of egrep -i " connected|card detect|primary dev" /var/log/Xorg.0.log and I'm pretty sure it's still in use because of how much power it's drawing. | 11:22 |
| antisober552 | So i know my power supply is dead as i cant power 1 dvd and a wifi card where if i unplug my the dvd drive i can use my pci card | 11:23 |
| antisober552 | So im gunna get a new power supply next week | 11:23 |
| packetfrog | artearte, http://askubuntu.com/questions/103253/how-do-i-turn-off-the-radeon-gpu-ono-my-hp-pavilion-dm4 | 11:23 |
| === arte_ is now known as artearte | ||
| artearte | Thank you a bunch guys, I'm retarded and hadn't logged off. | 11:28 |
| nkls | hi there! how can i back my login screen, not automaticly to log-in? | 11:32 |
| baizon | nkls: http://xubuntu.org/news/faq-1204-precise/ | 11:33 |
| baizon | nkls: question 7 | 11:33 |
| nkls | baizon, i have xubuntu xfce | 11:34 |
| baizon | nkls: so do i | 11:34 |
| nkls | ok | 11:34 |
| nkls | thanks | 11:34 |
| nkls | baizon, i have another question: | 11:34 |
| nkls | choose password for new keyering | 11:34 |
| nkls | this is headache for me | 11:35 |
| nkls | can i remove this pop-up? | 11:35 |
| baizon | i dont understand your question. You want to change your password? | 11:36 |
| nkls | no, i want to remove this pop-up when i opened chrome | 11:36 |
| nkls | this is something why i get every time when i open chrome | 11:37 |
| nkls | this is something what i have every time when i opened chrome* "choose password for new keyering" | 11:38 |
| baizon | nkls: yes, now i understand. The solution: http://karim.cytrontech.com/2013/03/22/xubuntu-solution-to-chrome-asks-for-password-to-unlock-keyring-on-startup/ | 11:39 |
| nkls | baizon, thanks! | 11:39 |
| nkls | i will look at this now | 11:39 |
| obscureangelPT | Hi guys | 12:44 |
| obscureangelPT | Where do i report bugs? | 12:44 |
| obscureangelPT | I am getting a massive bug thing on this Xubuntu 13.04 | 12:45 |
| obscureangelPT | Pulseaudio is eating me a full core of my cpu | 12:45 |
| gusnan | obscureangelPT, looks like it is already reported: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1170313 | 12:47 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1170313 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu) "Latest inotify patch causes 100% CPU" [High,In progress] | 12:47 |
| obscureangelPT | yep, must be that, gonna read and confirm that i have too | 12:52 |
| obscureangelPT | Its sad because its a netbook XD | 12:52 |
| obscureangelPT | Anda netbook cant do nothing at higher CPU percentage | 12:53 |
| obscureangelPT | Thanks a lot for the support | 12:53 |
| baizon | obscureangelPT: yes i know the pain, have the same problem since this morning :( | 12:53 |
| obscureangelPT | SO its been happening to all people with 13.04 | 12:55 |
| xubuntu593 | hey anybody listen? | 14:08 |
| baizon | xubuntu593: to? | 14:08 |
| xubuntu593 | i have a problem with my os... | 14:09 |
| xubuntu593 | i downloaded yesterday...the installation went allright....but from then,when i try to enter xubuntu a black screen appears....and nothing more... :S | 14:09 |
| xubuntu593 | any help? | 14:10 |
| aiena | Is there a ram and processor usage widget for xubuntu ? | 14:19 |
| SunStar | yeah for the panel | 14:20 |
| SunStar | not aware of anything that sits on the desktop wallpaper but that doesnt mean it doesnt exists. to me the dock is a better spot for it anyways | 14:21 |
| redcougar27 | Hello, I am running Ubuntu 12.10 embedded in / along Windows xp. I want to get rid of Ubuntu (problems with Adobe Reader and I don't like the interface) and replace it by Xubuntu 12.10. There is a safe way to do it without crashing Windows xp??? Thanks | 14:21 |
| aiena | SunStar: how do you use/install it ? | 14:21 |
| SunStar | redcougar27, use a live USB disk to delete the xubuntu partition and resize the windows partition, then reboot the computer with the XP disk and use the recovery options to reinstall the bootloader | 14:22 |
| redcougar27 | When installing Ubuntu, it asks you "Install Ubuntu instead of Win xp OR along it without damaging windows?" I choose the later solution. | 14:23 |
| SunStar | aiena, right click on panel 1 (the one that hides) and select panel -> new item -> search for cpu or system load monitor | 14:24 |
| SunStar | redcougar27, sorry i misread, i thout u wanted to get rid of linux | 14:24 |
| aiena | SunStar: thanks !! that dows not mention ram usage though !! But thanls all the same | 14:25 |
| SunStar | redcougar27, what i would do is quit the installer and go into launcher menu -> system -> gparted and erase the Ubuntu partition and start over, then go back into the installer and install xubuntu | 14:25 |
| holstein | aiena: i like conky | 14:25 |
| SunStar | aiena, you sure? my system load monitor shows me CPU, RAM and SWAP | 14:26 |
| redcougar27 | No, no, I want to replace Ubuntu by XUBUNTU without damaging windows. OK, thanks for your answer, I will try. | 14:26 |
| aiena | yes | 14:26 |
| SunStar | thats what i said redcougar27, use gparted to delete the *Ubuntu* partiton and make a new one for your *Xubuntu* then go back to the installer | 14:27 |
| holstein | redcougar27: no need.. xubuntu *is* ubuntu.. you can just install xfce pretty much... or convert your ubuntu to xubuntu | 14:27 |
| aiena | SunStar: I added the wrong widget | 14:27 |
| aiena | SunStar: how do you remove an added panel widget | 14:29 |
| SunStar | right click on it and select remove | 14:29 |
| redcougar27 | Thanks by the way. I am moving the lawn. Bye. | 14:31 |
| genii-around | I wonder where it's getting moved to | 14:33 |
| SunStar | O_o | 14:33 |
| Matteo99 | Hello everybody =D Where i find a lubuntu 12.10 non-pae kernel iso? Thanks (tell me simply because i'm italian... ;D | 15:56 |
| GridCube | non pae kernels do not exist any more, last release with non pae kernel was 12.04 xubuntu, and lubuntu for that matter | 15:59 |
| Matteo99 | GridCube: and what i do? | 16:00 |
| Cheri703 | why do you need non-pae specifically? | 16:00 |
| GridCube | Matteo99, get 12.04 its lts | 16:00 |
| GridCube | Cheri703, because he has a non pae cpu? | 16:01 |
| Matteo99 | Yes | 16:01 |
| Cheri703 | but can't you use pae on non pae stuff? | 16:01 |
| Cheri703 | or am I wrong? | 16:01 |
| Matteo99 | nope | 16:01 |
| GridCube | no, you are wrong | 16:01 |
| Cheri703 | ah, ok | 16:01 |
| Cheri703 | ignore me then :) | 16:01 |
| Matteo99 | ahahah =D | 16:01 |
| GridCube | dont worry :) | 16:01 |
| Matteo99 | GridCube, can you write the link for lubuntu 12.04 lts? thank you | 16:02 |
| GridCube | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ | 16:05 |
| Matteo99 | GridCube, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/12.04.2/release/ It's correct? | 16:09 |
| GridCube | thats for ubuntu, no xubuntu or lubuntu, you need to navigate to such directories | 16:10 |
| GridCube | lubuntu would be http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/ and xubuntu http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/ | 16:10 |
| Matteo99 | Oh. yes... But here i don't find the lts iso... omg WTF i do now | 16:11 |
| GridCube | !language | 16:12 |
| ubottu | Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional. | 16:12 |
| GridCube | :) | 16:12 |
| Matteo99 | oops... =D | 16:12 |
| Matteo99 | Oh. yes... But here i don't find the lts iso... | 16:13 |
| GridCube | xubuntu 12.04 its lts, lubuntu never had an lts | 16:13 |
| Matteo99 | oh, i see | 16:14 |
| GridCube | you can ask in their channel though | 16:14 |
| Matteo99 | oh, ok. | 16:15 |
| Matteo99 | but it isn't the problem | 16:15 |
| Matteo99 | i had to update lubuntu | 16:16 |
| Matteo99 | then i wrote sudo apt-get update | 16:17 |
| Matteo99 | then i wrote sudo apt-get upgrade | 16:17 |
| Matteo99 | and then ALT+F2 | 16:18 |
| Matteo99 | and then update-manager -d | 16:18 |
| Matteo99 | i've select "a new version 12.10 is here: download" or something like that | 16:19 |
| Matteo99 | =D | 16:20 |
| Matteo99 | and i've update lubuntu | 16:20 |
| Matteo99 | but the linux-kernel generic cannot install | 16:21 |
| Matteo99 | And the indicator in the bottom of screen, after the reboot, says that the installed packages have dependencies unresolved | 16:23 |
| Matteo99 | what i do now? | 16:23 |
| Matteo99 | please help me | 16:23 |
| holstein | Matteo99: if it were me, i would backup my data.. then i would run "sudo apt-get update" and troubleshoot errors | 16:24 |
| Matteo99 | no problem... 4 hours ago i've installed lubuntu | 16:25 |
| Matteo99 | and i haven't any data in my pc | 16:25 |
| GridCube | Matteo99, as said, if you need non-pae kernels you need to stick to 12.04 and all its updates | 16:26 |
| GridCube | no moving to 12.10, no using lubuntu, just xubuntu | 16:26 |
| Matteo99 | i have to re-install Lubuntu or try Xubuntu? | 16:28 |
| Matteo99 | but what i do if the support of Lubuntu ends? | 16:28 |
| GridCube | i would recommend xubuntu, but if you dont update to 12.10 you will be fine with lubuntu | 16:28 |
| GridCube | Matteo99, the xubuntu desktop will continue to have support for a few more years | 16:29 |
| mikodo | Hi, I deleted and restored my Xfce 4.10 panel, and now I don't have notifications of open windows like web-pages. How do I fix that? | 16:29 |
| GridCube | after that you need to buy a new computer or use another distro Matteo99 | 16:29 |
| Matteo99 | yes | 16:29 |
| Matteo99 | thank you GridCube for your help | 16:29 |
| GridCube | dont worry | 16:30 |
| Matteo99 | bye! | 16:30 |
| darace | hi xubuntu users ;-) | 16:51 |
| GridCube | !hi darace | 16:52 |
| GridCube | !hi ¬ darace | 16:52 |
| ubottu | GridCube: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 16:52 |
| GridCube | yes | 16:52 |
| darace | I am looking for a chipset driver for dell latitude d610 laptop. for xubuntu 12.10. intel pentium m 740 @1.73 ghz. | 16:52 |
| GridCube | !hi | darace | 16:52 |
| ubottu | darace: Hi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay! | 16:52 |
| GridCube | chipset? | 16:52 |
| GridCube | what is a chipset driver if i can ask? | 16:53 |
| darace | dont remember i would have to reboot into windows xp and look at CPU-Z | 16:53 |
| GridCube | why do you need this "chipset driver" | 16:53 |
| darace | intel speedstep technology | 16:54 |
| GridCube | ain't that integrated to the kernel already? | 16:54 |
| darace | i dont know. ima fresh newby to this. :-( | 16:54 |
| GridCube | darace, speedstep its integrated to the kernel since linux 2.6 | 16:55 |
| darace | hwo do i gert to it? | 16:55 |
| darace | get^^ | 16:55 |
| GridCube | darace, http://www.overloadit.com/2011/05/17/intels-speedstep-in-linux/ | 16:56 |
| darace | thanks grid | 16:56 |
| darace | opened terminal and it read it all just right :) | 16:58 |
| darace | permission denied using power scaling :-/ | 17:04 |
| GridCube | sudo it | 17:06 |
| darace | how to sudo it? | 17:09 |
| SunStar | type sudo before the command to run as admin | 17:10 |
| SunStar | or gksudo if it is a GUI app | 17:10 |
| darace | okay | 17:11 |
| darace | ty | 17:11 |
| darace | but it still denied me | 17:11 |
| SunStar | then sudo su | 17:11 |
| SunStar | sudo su whateverthiscommandis | 17:11 |
| genii-around | sudo -i | 17:11 |
| SunStar | or that | 17:11 |
| darace | it gave me root now | 17:11 |
| darace | it wont let me. i just reembered Dell bios cant recoignize the power adaptor so it clocked it to half cpu at 800 mhz. gonna take me some time to find the right adaptor | 17:14 |
| darace | in windows i could use a tool called rmclock and set it to 1.73ghz with no ill effects | 17:15 |
| darace | doesnt seem this easy in xubuntu | 17:16 |
| darace | im using xubuntu because i just dont feel like going to windows 7 or 8 next year when xp is pulled from support | 17:17 |
| GridCube | darace, no idea, but i would think that at that level any tutorial for linux should help you, its not really a matter of xubuntu, and by that i mean, you can search for any applicable solution for linux and then try to figure if it will work in ubuntu | 17:27 |
| jacklk | At the Ubuntu login screen, shutdown, restart, etc do not work. I think this may be because it needs root privalleges to do this... Can someone help? | 17:42 |
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| Matteo99 | Hello everybody =D I don't speak English very well because i'm Italian... Well, this is the problem: everytime i install an update on Xubuntu 12.04 my pc freezes whit a black screen and i must force shutdown. What i do for solve this problem? Thanks | 18:45 |
| SonikkuAmerica | !it | Matteo99, we have an Italian channel | 18:47 |
| ubottu | Matteo99, we have an Italian channel: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette) | 18:47 |
| Matteo99 | People on #ubuntu-it don't answer.... Well, this is the problem: everytime i install an update on Xubuntu 12.04 my pc freezes whit a black screen and i must force shutdown. What i do for solve this problem? Thanks | 19:08 |
| SunStar | have you tried sudo apt-get dist-upgrade | 19:09 |
| SunStar | i just went throough that not 10 minutes ago n thats how i fixed it | 19:09 |
| Matteo99 | SunStar, do you talk to me? | 19:10 |
| SunStar | yes | 19:10 |
| Matteo99 | oh, ok | 19:12 |
| Matteo99 | but 12.10 have a pae kernel and i need a non-pae | 19:13 |
| pleia2 | dist-upgrade does not upgrade your os to 12.10 | 19:13 |
| pleia2 | it just does all the current updates instead of all the "safe" ones that just regular upgrade does | 19:14 |
| Matteo99 | ok thank you | 19:15 |
| Matteo99 | i'll try | 19:16 |
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| antisober552 | :-) /join mcpedevs | 19:36 |
| Matteo99 | SunStar, i cannot solve this problem. What i do? | 19:43 |
| Matteo99 | I have a problem: everytime i install an update on Xubuntu 12.04 my pc freezes whit a black screen and i must force shutdown. What i do for solve this problem? Thanks | 19:50 |
| antisober552_ | hi guys can someone tell me how i can find root terminal | 20:49 |
| knome | antisober552_, what do you need it for? just prefix any command with sudo. | 20:49 |
| antisober552_ | no i run a php server and i need root access but if i put sudo infront of the cmd it does not run where if i use the root terminal it all works fine | 20:51 |
| bekks | antisober552_: use sudo -i and run your command inside that shell. | 20:51 |
| knome | antisober552_, i don't know a case where you'd need to run a command with the root user on a php server that couldn't be done with sudo. | 20:52 |
| SunStar | you need to use sudo su to enter into root terminal | 20:52 |
| bekks | SunStar: No. | 20:53 |
| antisober552_ | if i dont run with root none of my work i do on the php will not save | 20:53 |
| bekks | SunStar: sudo su is a bad habbit. And sudo -i gives you an interactive root shell. | 20:53 |
| antisober552_ | where if i run with root it saves | 20:53 |
| SunStar | bekks, No. | 20:53 |
| bekks | SunStar: Yes. | 20:53 |
| knome | antisober552_, save what? | 20:53 |
| SunStar | bekks, No. | 20:53 |
| bekks | SunStar: Yes. | 20:53 |
| antisober552_ | work | 20:53 |
| SunStar | bekks, No. | 20:53 |
| knome | SunStar, bekks: please stop now. | 20:53 |
| bekks | SunStar: Please dont discuss things you dont know. | 20:53 |
| bekks | knome: ok. | 20:54 |
| antisober552_ | im not gunna go into to much detail i just need to run it with root terminal | 20:54 |
| knome | antisober552_, what "work"? it sounds like you have something set up the wrong way if you need a sudo user. | 20:54 |
| knome | i mean, sudo terminal to save your work. | 20:54 |
| bekks | antisober552_: Run sudo -i to get an interactive root shell, run your command, exit the shell. | 20:54 |
| antisober552_ | i thought i had done that as well i think i will go and set it up from begging | 20:55 |
| antisober552_ | it might help if i spelled thing right like beinning | 20:57 |
| knome | antisober552_, i would seriously fix the permissions another way than have to use a root terminal for a php server. but it's your call. | 20:58 |
| antisober552_ | yeah i think i will take you advise | 20:58 |
| knome | playing around with root where you really don't have to is always at least questionable, and possibly dangerous too. | 20:59 |
| antisober552_ | so lets say i use ./start_php.sh to start the server what do i do chmod it with 0777 | 20:59 |
| knome | to start the php server? | 20:59 |
| antisober552_ | yeah | 20:59 |
| knome | you do need root access to start the php server. | 21:00 |
| antisober552_ | no | 21:00 |
| antisober552_ | but in order for thing to save i do | 21:00 |
| knome | can you be a bit more specific in what you are doing? | 21:00 |
| antisober552_ | not really | 21:01 |
| knome | chmodding something that starts something won't help you saving files. | 21:01 |
| knome | you would need to give the appropriate user some permissions in the appropriate directory | 21:01 |
| knome | say you have something running in /var/www/mydir | 21:01 |
| antisober552_ | iokay | 21:02 |
| knome | then in the normal case, the user running the apache server would need to have write access to that directory | 21:02 |
| knome | if you simply want to edit the files yourself in that directory, you will need to give write permissions for your user in that directory | 21:02 |
| antisober552_ | that it i need writing permissin but the files which need it i cant edit | 21:02 |
| knome | antisober552_, the easiest way is to do "sudo chown username:username /var/www/mydir" | 21:03 |
| knome | antisober552_, after that, you can edit the files in that directory | 21:03 |
| antisober552_ | thxs | 21:03 |
| knome | antisober552_, i also believe the default apache user in ubuntu should have access to that directory even after that. | 21:04 |
| antisober552_ | okay | 21:04 |
| knome | somebody who has worked more with the server side in ubuntu would have to confirm that | 21:04 |
| antisober552_ | okay | 21:05 |
| antisober552_ | how do you get the red writing up | 21:06 |
| antisober552_ | ive been trying to figure that out | 21:07 |
| SunStar | sudo su (hey he asked for it, why am i not allowed to tell him?) | 21:08 |
| knome | antisober552_, red? | 21:10 |
| knome | SunStar, that's not what i said. | 21:10 |
| SunStar | root terminal has red text | 21:10 |
| knome | there are other, better ways to get red text on terminal. | 21:10 |
| antisober552_ | yes in here | 21:11 |
| SunStar | oh your IRC client does that when some one says your name | 21:11 |
| antisober552_ | oh but when i say someone name it doesnt happen lol | 21:12 |
| antisober552_ | thats why i asked | 21:12 |
| SunStar | it does on that persons screen | 21:12 |
| antisober552_ | oh okay | 21:12 |
| antisober552_ | got ya | 21:12 |
| antisober552_ | knome i got this error chown: missing operand after | 21:15 |
| antisober552_ | oh wait | 21:16 |
| antisober552_ | okay i done that yes i still cant do anythink | 21:17 |
| antisober552_ | wont right | 21:17 |
| knome | did you replace username with your username and /var/www/mydir with the appropriate dir | 21:18 |
| knome | you also want -R if you need to edit files in subdirectories | 21:18 |
| SunStar | -Rv to visually see what its doing | 21:19 |
| xubuntu239 | I have updates regularly, but should I be worried about drivers for my xubununt 12.04? When I first downloaded xubuntu to my computer, I was told to update a driver, but what about now? | 21:36 |
| xubuntu239 | I've had xubuntu about a month. | 21:37 |
| heoyea | nope | 21:37 |
| xubuntu239 | o.k. cheerio! thanks | 21:38 |
| xubuntu239 | oh, so do I have to worry about updating drivers? | 21:40 |
| knome | no. | 21:40 |
| heoyea | those are rare stuff to update | 21:40 |
| heoyea | u usually update applications only | 21:40 |
| xubuntu239 | o.k. | 21:42 |
| ddsss | how to install xubuntu from usb-drive? Can I just dd .iso onto thumb drive? | 22:18 |
| Unit193 | ddsss: Because it's a hybrid with quantal and higher, yep. | 22:20 |
| Unit193 | !usb | 22:21 |
| ubottu | For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent | 22:21 |
| ddsss | Unit193: thanks. got it. | 22:25 |
| * packetfrog claps | 22:27 | |
| packetfrog | ddsss is one of us! | 22:27 |
| packetfrog | ddsss, Can we get a Xubuntu roar?!? | 22:27 |
| ddsss | packetfrog: em?:) | 22:27 |
| packetfrog | RAWR | 22:27 |
| packetfrog | like that | 22:27 |
| ddsss | packetfrog: ahh. yeah. no - I've been usingit for awhile on desktop. this is for a laptop. | 22:28 |
| packetfrog | ddsss Can we get two rawrs then? | 22:28 |
| ddsss | rawr rawr | 22:28 |
| packetfrog | ktnx | 22:28 |
| carrera | Hello All! :) | 22:47 |
| carrera | is there a xubuntu alternate ed? | 22:48 |
| carrera | I want to configure my 2 SSDs with RAID 0 | 22:48 |
| knome | not after 12.04 | 22:49 |
| pleia2 | but you can do raid in the 12.10+ installers | 22:49 |
| carrera | not after 12.04? | 22:50 |
| pleia2 | the last time xubuntu had an alternate cd was in 12.04 | 22:50 |
| carrera | but 12.10 came after 12.04 | 22:50 |
| carrera | so which is correct? | 22:50 |
| carrera | oh, got it | 22:51 |
| carrera | thanks guys! :) | 22:51 |
| carrera | that's great news | 22:51 |
| knome | there is no alternate images for xubuntu after the 12.04 release, but the regular installer should support raid starting from 12.10 | 22:51 |
| pleia2 | (and lvm!) | 22:51 |
| carrera | so that's why there's only a desktop version in the 13.04 dir | 22:51 |
| knome | (and a pink wallpaper!) | 22:51 |
| knome | (not really.) | 22:51 |
| knome | carrera, that's correct | 22:51 |
| carrera | knome, that's great news. thank u sir! :) | 22:52 |
| carrera | so which one do u like more, KDE or Gnome? ;) | 22:52 |
| knome | xfce. | 22:52 |
| carrera | is that why your nick is knome? ;) | 22:53 |
| knome | nope | 22:53 |
| carrera | then, what does it stand for | 22:54 |
| knome | it's something completely unrelated. also, | 22:54 |
| knome | !ot | 22:54 |
| ubottu | #xubuntu is the Xubuntu support channel, #xubuntu-devel for discussion regarding development of Xubuntu, and #xubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome! | 22:54 |
| carrera | knome, cool. thanks! :) | 22:55 |
| carrera | will 13.04 dektop have no problems with nVidia GPUs? | 23:09 |
| mesa | yo | 23:09 |
| SonikkuAmerica | carrera: I don't think anyone in the world could guarantee that. | 23:09 |
| mesa | so i just installed xubuntu. whats up. didnt expect there to be a lot of people here honestly. | 23:10 |
| carrera | I remember having to use the alternate edition with ubuntu | 23:10 |
| SonikkuAmerica | mesa: We all showed up here after Mr. Supreme World Dictator (hint, hint) introduced "Unity." | 23:10 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Funny, his nick is sabdfl | 23:11 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Actually, we never dehumanize Mark Shuttleworth THAT badly, but... | 23:11 |
| mesa | Ah, nice nice. I can understand that. I don't know who it actually was who introduced the unity in ubuntu, but I am looking for the most low resource os that I can | 23:12 |
| SonikkuAmerica | ...let's just say that no DE (not even GNOME 3) caused as much DISunity. | 23:12 |
| mesa | haha | 23:12 |
| SonikkuAmerica | mesa: How 'bout Lubuntu? | 23:12 |
| mesa | nah, i liked the look of this one right now. | 23:12 |
| SonikkuAmerica | k I follow, I actually use Ubuntu Studio. | 23:12 |
| carrera | SonikkuAmerica, sabdfl? | 23:12 |
| mesa | I installed gentoo a while back on another laptop but I dont want to fuck with it until I learn a whole lot more | 23:13 |
| SonikkuAmerica | carrera: It stands for Self-Appointed Benevolent Dictator For Life. | 23:13 |
| mesa | I am trying to learn C coding and am looking at doing the Linux from scratch | 23:13 |
| carrera | LOL | 23:13 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Google it | 23:13 |
| mesa | I liked Tiny-Core, but that shit is crazy if you are trying to get wifi to work. | 23:13 |
| SonikkuAmerica | mesa: Try cplusplus.com ; it's for C++ but most of it is quite similar. | 23:13 |
| SonikkuAmerica | In fact, regarding disunity... | 23:14 |
| SonikkuAmerica | !disunited | 23:14 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu 11.10 and higher use the !Unity desktop environment by default. To use GNOME Shell instead, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool". For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown. | 23:14 |
| mesa | yeah I have a couple pdfs of college level textbooks, some with a lot of good reviews. | 23:14 |
| carrera | mesa: read the bible by Brian Kernighan and the late Dennis Ritchie | 23:14 |
| mesa | lol what carerra? | 23:15 |
| SonikkuAmerica | mesa: The C++ bible, not the Christian Bible | 23:15 |
| carrera | mesa, The C Programming Language | 23:15 |
| SonikkuAmerica | ^ Yeah tha. | 23:15 |
| SonikkuAmerica | t | 23:15 |
| mesa | I figured that as much, but is that the name of the bible? | 23:15 |
| mesa | C++ bible? | 23:15 |
| SonikkuAmerica | C bible | 23:15 |
| mesa | cool deal. | 23:15 |
| carrera | I donno if the C++ book by Bjourne Stroustrop was ever called the C++ bible | 23:16 |
| carrera | it was a very hard book to read | 23:16 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Juan Soulie's online reference was my textbook for C++ I | 23:16 |
| carrera | The C++ Primer by Stanley Lipman was a much easier read | 23:16 |
| mesa | yeah i took a little of java programming at college, and some other stuff but I dropped out. so I underrstand some principals | 23:17 |
| carrera | C++ Language Tutorial, by: Juan Soulié, Last revision: June, 2007 | 23:19 |
| SonikkuAmerica | carrera: Soulié made cplusplus.com | 23:19 |
| carrera | SonikkuAmerica, oh, ok. I didn't know of him | 23:21 |
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