psivaacjwatson: xnox: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5721076/ is seen with the default raring server installations today.09:36
xnoxpsivaa: is that on all server jobs?!09:37
* xnox ponders how to subscribe to failures on those.09:37
psivaaxnox: both i386 and amd6409:38
psivaaxnox: public jenkins is taking too long to load, but we have not set up email notifications for the smoke tests yet, we could do that09:40
cjwatsonpsivaa: new today?09:41
psivaacjwatson: yes this failure is new and only with today's images09:41
cjwatsonoh, d-i updated without seeds again09:41
infinityIt sure didn't.09:42
cjwatsonmaybe just really unlucky timing09:42
infinityUnless something's trying to pull d-i from proposed.09:42
* cjwatson grabs the image to look in more detail09:42
infinityBut I did the seed change at more or less the optimal time (sure, there's a window for a publisher cycle there, or so)09:42
cjwatsonthe build is around the time when you *might* have got unlucky, but I'll check09:43
psivaathere seems to be a new kernel yesterday 3.8.0-1909:43
cjwatsonyeah, I know09:43
cjwatsonI'll look into it09:43
psivaacjwatson: ok thank you09:44
cjwatsonpsivaa: can I have a link to the full log?09:44
psivaacjwatson: i'm trying to load that in the public instance which has not still loaded, ill copy and paste the full log from the private jenkins09:45
infinityMaybe if we mangle when cdimage dailies build, we can just disallow migration of d-i/linux during suboptimal windows. :P09:45
cjwatsonI have lab access, so a private jenkins link would be fine09:45
infinityOr maybe my hackish solution to get kernel ABIs completely out of the seeds would solve all of this.09:46
psivaacjwatson: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5721108/09:46
infinityI'll have to look at landing that early in S.09:46
cjwatsonhmm, that's d-i with -18 and -18 is on the images.09:47
cjwatsonApr 19 08:19:23 main-menu[1734]: (process:13782): libkmod: kmod_lookup_alias_from_builtin_file:09:47
cjwatsonApr 19 08:19:23 main-menu[1734]: (process:13782): could not open builtin file '/lib/modules/3.8.0-18-generic/modules.builtin.bin'09:47
cjwatsonis that a recent kmod change?09:47
infinityI did upload a new kmod, but that seems to be a red herring, no?09:48
* xnox thought i was fixing builtin file opening.... and it was mostly harmless before?!09:48
infinityApr 19 08:19:23 main-menu[1734]: (process:13782): unknown udeb squashfs-modules09:48
infinityApr 19 08:19:23 main-menu[1734]: (process:13782): FATAL: Module squashfs not found.09:48
infinityThose seem to be the more interesting lines.09:48
cjwatsonah, yeah, that's package-level of course09:49
cjwatsonok, I'll have to actually try the image and see what's going on there09:49
infinityCould this just be that the test was run after I NBSed out squashfs-modules-18?09:50
infinityThough, I assume that should be on the CD, so nevermind.09:50
cjwatsonit may well have been, because squashfs-modules sure isn't on the image09:50
cjwatsonthis is odd because various other -modules are09:51
cjwatson(which means that the sanity check in debian-cd didn't fire)09:51
infinitySeems like a bunch of them aren't on the image.09:52
cjwatsonaha, and the image build postdated the seed change09:52
cjwatson! Allowing d-i kernel versions: ['3.8.0-19-generic']09:52
ubot2cjwatson: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)09:52
cjwatson! Pruned squashfs-modules-3.8.0-18-generic-di from installer09:52
ubot2cjwatson: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)09:52
cjwatsonoh shut up ubot209:52
infinitySo, just poor timing.09:52
infinityMystery solved.09:53
cjwatsonbut then things like09:53
cjwatson* Chose crypto-modules-3.8.0-18-generic-di out of crypto-modules to satisfy netcfg09:53
cjwatsonand indeed this is probably why:09:53
cjwatson===== Parallel build; waiting for Ubuntu-Server mirror to sync =====09:53
cjwatsonFri Apr 19 07:07:54 UTC 201309:53
infinityRight, so all the modules that made it are there because of transient deps, not direct seeds.09:53
cjwatsonso it was building alongside something else and hence the mirror was a bit staler than it should have been09:53
cjwatsoncdimage's parallel build support isn't perhaps as absolutely perfect as it should be for this (though it's not clear that it can be)09:54
cjwatsonSo the fix is just to respin the ISO part.  I'll do that now09:54
infinityIs there no kernel in the squashfs for server?09:54
infinityAhh, guess not.09:55
cjwatsonpsivaa: should be better now?11:05
psivaacjwatson: our cron jobs have not yet picked up the new set. Will let you know once they run.11:09
psivaacjwatson: thanks for the quick fix though :)11:10
psivaacjwatson: The desktop media-info files still say Alpha. I know that does not have any user impact, but is there a plan to change it? Or Is it that todays desktop images wont be the RC?11:12
cjwatsonpsivaa: I already changed that earlier today in the code11:13
cjwatsonthose desktop images can't be RC11:13
psivaacjwatson: ack11:13
xnoxev: well does it matter who files the RT for signing wubi? =) my RTs usually get stuck forever.... Yours are getting done quicker ;-)13:45
ev:) you just need to make friends with people in IS/webops13:46
evon it13:46
xnoxev: thanks.13:47
* xnox just makes friends with you ;-)13:47
evxnox: ha! :) I don't think the transitive property applies to RT13:48
evoh wait, it just did13:48
* xnox hides13:48
evRT 6095113:51
xnoxev: No permission to view ticket  =(13:56
xnoxmaybe after it's trianged in correct queues?!13:56
evyeah, probs13:56
xnoxanyway added to my short list of RTs I am waiting on.13:57
evxnox: if you're blocked on RTs, Steve can raise the priority of them and mention them in his catch up call with IS14:02
cjwatsonyeah, doit, he wants to have something to talk about there :)14:02
evxnox: it also helps to know whats in front of you: https://portal.admin.canonical.com/ruins?team=losa14:02
xnoxev: well, _I_ am not blocked on them. They are just fixes that affect the users of our services: manpages.ubuntu.com, geoip-lookup.ubuntu.com, wubi release.14:03
evgeoip-lookup is relatively important, I would think14:04
evdefinitely worth mentioning to Steve14:04
xnoxwell geoip is #15 with size estimate XS =) (i hope that's ExtraSmall and not ExtrodinarySophisticated)14:05
xnoxand manpages got reopened and are not up on the board yet.14:06
xnoxany opinions on bug 117015014:07
ubot2Launchpad bug 1170150 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "vmlinuz/initrd.img symlinks do not point to signed versions on kernel updates of secure boot UEFI machines" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/117015014:07
cjwatsonhow is that a grub2 bug?14:11
cjwatsonit doesn't manage the symlinks14:11
xnoxcjwatson: what does manage symlinks? linux-kernel?14:11
* cjwatson reassigns to linux14:11
cjwatson-> not our problem :)14:12
xnoxlove it =)14:12
cjwatson(also not a release-critical problem or anything since the symlinks are only ever used for the sort of manual use case the reporter suggests)14:12
xnoxev: when you will be state side would be able to poke Keybuk about doing a libnih release? or e.g. handing the project over to ~upstart-devel team? https://code.launchpad.net/libnih/+activereviews shows the amount of fixes that are in ubuntu but not upstream, and there hasn't been a bugfix release with those.14:19
xnoxwe have a few people on RPM-based distros asking for a tarball release with all of those fixes.14:19
xnoxev: or is it something you don't talk with Keybuk about? =))))14:20
evtexted him what you said14:21
xnoxev: thanks.14:23
evfingers crossed that it's just something he can quickly cover off on the google bus14:24
mptxnox, what do you think of the jumpy "Keyboard layout" step?14:48
xnoxmpt: I am currently staring at the spinning logo around the image.14:51
xnox=)))) one moment please.14:51
xnoxmpt: description sounds ok. But how does one /change/ layouts any any step? (or are we simply not support that like we currently do). E.g. what if I want English(US) everywhere but at the Name field I got a feeling to type "Дмитрий Ледков"? aka setting up a secondary layout?14:55
xnoxor should we always setup english as a secondary layout and say " you can change layout above, or by pressing Control-x Alt-c Alt-butterfly14:55
cjwatsonIf you set up a non-Latin layout in console-setup then it is always true that you can press Alt+Shift to toggle to English14:56
mptxnox, same as normal, using the text entry menu in the menu bar14:56
xnoxmpt: ack.14:57
mptWhich ... actually isn't mentioned at the moment14:57
xnoxcjwatson: I had no idea, and I don't think we tell users that at the keyboard step do we?14:57
cjwatsonI don't think we do14:57
cjwatsonBut we might as well tell people rather than inventing another set of keys :)14:57
cjwatsonI think we may have told people at one point and it got lost in a redesign14:58
xnoxmpt: is your google doc meant to have a spinner animation as the first figure under Keyboard layout? cause that's what I see here.14:58
mptxnox, that happened when I moved it from one part of the document to another. I'm trying to pluck the image out of an older revision.14:58
* xnox thinks "interation" is a better word than "redesign" as really everything is constantly "redesigned" =)))))14:58
cjwatsonWell, I was specifically thinking about before the maverick-redesign branch, but I may well be mistaken15:00
mptI've been doing more or less of the design since Ubiquity started, and this is the first I've heard of Alt Shift :-)15:01
xnoxcjwatson: Alt Shift launches Unity HUD for me to search/execute global-menu items15:03
xnoxor if done too quick, does nothing.15:03
xnoxright - I reset to default readd Russian layout and the "key combination to change layouts" has nothing selected.15:05
* xnox goes to file a bug.15:06
cjwatsonBah, I guess the Unity folks didn't know about it either ...15:07
xnoxcjwatson: askubuntu brings up 2 year old questions with total of 20 000 views on approx. "why alt+shift doesn't change keyboard layout"15:08
xnoxenabling alt-shift does work well enough with HUD/Dash/Apps15:09
xnoxso it's just that shortcut is not enabled by default at all.15:09
cjwatsonIt's only enabled by default if you installed with a non-Latin layout15:12
cjwatsonOr used to be anyway ...15:12
xnoxРусский is non-latin =) i will do a test install at the weekend to test this.15:20
cjwatsonShould be, yeah ...15:21
evxnox: jacekn is signing wubi now15:51
evxnox: signed wubi is in place16:29
xnoxev: awesome, what's next to "release it" ? I guess next raring image build will simply pick it up?16:41
xnoxand precise daily as well?16:41
xnoxwhat about just wubi.exe downloads from ubuntu.com?16:41
xnoxwould those just work after the image build?16:42
cjwatsonThe web team usually make that be a redirect to the one we publish on releases.ubuntu.com16:42
cjwatsonOr a mirror of it16:42
xnoxcjwatson: yeahp, link from ubuntu.com for precise wubi goes to: http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/releases.ubuntu.com//precise/wubi.exe16:43
xnoxcjwatson: so would you just republish precise wubi there? or do you want me to test the know signed wubi.exe first?16:43
cjwatsonUsually done at the next point release16:44
cjwatsonBut if it's a fix for 12.04.2 then we could republish16:44
cjwatsonRather have it tested first though16:44
xnoxcjwatson: it's a fix for 12.04.2, so we didn't release any wubi with 12.04.2 but we should have, due to kernel name change to -> *.efi16:45
xnoxcjwatson: ok will test as per precise-daily iso tracker wubi test cases & will report results there, such that it's documented.16:45
cjwatsonah yes, that16:48
mattrae_hi, during installation it says it will take 53 min to download language packs. i see they are downloading at ~30KB/s not so fast. ive noticed this a couple times recently21:32
mattrae_this is for 12.04.2 desktop21:35
mattrae_wondering if anybody else has noticed that downloading the language packs is slow21:36
cjwatsonmattrae_: not something we can really do much about here, I'm afraid ...22:29
cjwatsonI guess the mirror for your country is suboptimal for you or something22:29

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