[00:15] plars: I wonder what went wrong with the image I sent you... [00:19] sergiusens: geez, I download built 84 like an hour ago, intending to upgrade now, but you're already up to build 86 [00:21] mhall119: don't know who triggered it, shouldn't of happened I believe [00:36] sergiusens: no idea, I installed it the same way [00:37] sergiusens: rsalveti was talking about testing something that generates the changelog I think? Maybe he was trying that? [00:39] plars: yeah but he said he'd cancel [00:48] hello world [00:48] ubuntu on droid razer m? [00:49] sergiusens: so I tried the raring image, but had no wireless networks listed [00:49] on a nexus 7 [00:58] mhall119, yes? [01:00] balloons: so I was trying the raring images [01:00] first of all, I saw it downloading some quantal- files even when I used phablet-flash --alternate-settings raring_settings.py [01:00] second, it didn't seem that my networking was working on raring on my nexus 7 [01:01] mhall119, yes, the "raring" images are a mix of raring and quantal [01:01] networking not working sounds like a bug.. but what do you mean not working? no hw showing at all? [01:07] sergiusens: build 86 I triggered to test the changelog changes, as I said [01:08] sergiusens: I said I could cancel it as well, and the last one I just let it finish to have a record that it worked completely [01:08] rsalveti: ack... thought you would cancel both :-) [01:08] mhall119: probably because the android files are still named as quantal [01:08] sergiusens: got it :-) [01:08] Does this page actually get updated? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes#Nexus_7 [01:08] mhall119: the download says quantal for the armel files... that's the android side and it is completely generic, the have a series name just because cdimage requires it [01:09] sergiusens: any issues? just to know if people are tracking builds somehow differently [01:09] seems it also creates an entry at the qatracker [01:09] rsalveti: just mixed up people doing the raring testing ;-) [01:09] sergiusens: lol, got it, sorry for that [01:09] it seems like zero progress is being made. The same issues seem to still persist and I don't see (or i've missed) any changes that have been made that looks like progress [01:09] rsalveti: we can't trigger builds anymore as easily as before... I'll create a new playground [01:09] sergiusens: got it [01:10] better canceling them in case of tests [01:10] mhall119: does nmcli work from an adb root; adb shell; ubuntu_chroot shell ? [01:11] rsalveti: wifi seems to be broken on nexus 7... I can't download the raring images from where I am now, not enough BW [01:12] mhall119, How was the raring desktop I had installed it before on my nexus 7 before it was part of the touch downloads a bit problematic I found? [01:12] just strip the driver stacks out of ubuntu and droid [01:12] sergiusens: I can download it, but not sure what to do with it as I have no hardware to test [01:13] for wifi gsm cdma etc [01:13] sergiusens: is that raring specific? [01:13] based on arms v6 v7 [01:20] rsalveti: apparently [01:21] I'll bbl and at least test on manta [01:26] I can give that a shot as well === XenGi is now known as XenGi_ === _salem is now known as salem_ [01:55] sergiusens: I'm back on quantal already [01:55] :-( [01:55] sorry, I've got apps to try out :) [01:56] wilee-nilee: other than desktop Unity not being touch-friendly, I didn't have any problems with the desktop image [01:58] mhall119, Cool thanks I will have to try it out again. [02:07] mhall119: so quantal works, raring doesn't? [02:08] mhall119: balloons rsalveti well I found the cause at least https://launchpad.net/~phablet-team/+archive/ppa/+packages?field.name_filter=network-manager&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=raring [02:09] rsalveti: next time we do this we should probably bump the version to ridiculous numbers... [02:10] lololol [02:10] same thing happened with autopilot [02:11] sergiusens: oh, right [02:11] sergiusens: walking target [02:11] sergiusens: can rebase it again, or are you doing it? [02:12] rsalveti: yup, same thing with nux, pulseaudio [02:12] lovely [02:12] rsalveti: let me fix nux [02:12] rsalveti: can you do nm? [02:12] sergiusens: ok, can take care of nm and pulse [02:13] quite a few others as well [02:13] and gallery-app is ftbfs [02:13] rsalveti: resolvconf doesn't matter [02:13] sergiusens: yeah [02:13] rsalveti: yeah.. all those fail I guess because the packaging changed to be any intead of armhh (except for gallery) [02:14] sergiusens: right [02:15] sergiusens: and lightdm? === XenGi_ is now known as XenGi === salem_ is now known as _salem [04:22] hi [04:22] I wiped /data on my galaxy nexus because it was full, following http://askubuntu.com/questions/279726/how-to-wipe-data-on-nexus-4-to-install-ubuntu-touch [04:22] now I can only boot to the bootloader and the phablet-flash script cannot find my device to install a new image [04:22] any suggestions how I can get the new image on the device? fastboot does work [04:35] hi [04:36] can u tell me, all type smartphone for ubuntu touch [04:37] i have lenovo k860, can i install to that phone? === XenGi is now known as XenGi_ [06:14] good morning [06:14] dholbach, good morning :) [06:14] hey tvoss === tvoss is now known as tvoss|exercise === jono is now known as Guest50668 [07:44] I get bug 1170600 with raring build #86 on a grouper, is it known? [07:44] bug 1170600 in touch-preview-images "Network list is empty" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1170600 [07:57] jibel, hmm, i thought i heard sergiusens say it is fixed [08:07] ogra_, okay, I'll check again with today's build === Namidairo_ is now known as Namidairo [08:58] I have the original image [08:58] How do i push on the VZW gnex [08:58] it seems to have over-written my recovery [09:01] i can only boot to adb usb [09:01] errr [09:01] sorry [09:01] odin [09:01] and the ubuntu touch original image === ckpringle_ is now known as ckpringle === SkavenXXI-[OFF] is now known as SkavenXXI [09:20] Getting a problem when installing the ubuntu browser autopilot package on the nexus 7 image.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/5721050/ [09:21] dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/ubuntu-browser_0.13~quantal1_armhf.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/qt5/qml/Ubuntu/Browser/qmldir', which is also in package webbrowser-app 0.19 [09:21] how do i get a terminal on this? [09:21] UserError1: you can ssh in from another machine, a terminal app is in the works [09:49] netcurli, ping about CachingAudio [09:54] aquarius: pong [09:54] netcurli, wouldn't it be nice if there were a CachingAudio QML object, which worked exactly like Audio, but also saved any network thing it's playing to the filesystem, and when given that URL again, played it from the cache rather than from the network? [09:55] netcurli, I'd like this for my U1 music streaming app, and it occurred to me that you'd like it for CatchPodder too :) [09:56] netcurli, so I thought...maybe we should put a spec together for how it should work, do an implementation, and then lobby for it to enter the Ubuntu SDK and maybe go upstream? [09:58] aquarius: yeah, I think, I could use something like this for CatchPodder [09:58] I thought so :) [09:59] and I observe that you have some plugin-writing skillz ;) [10:01] is there an SDK [10:01] so i can just whip up a terminal in Qt qml and python 3.3 [10:01] would seriously take 10mins to be able to pass shutil commands [10:02] jibel: ogra_ raring? Yes network manager got updated in the archive and superseeded our custom package [10:04] rsalveti: and me updated a couple of packages last night that had this issue... going to check if it made it in today' build [10:05] aquarius: how would writing a spec together actually work? do you want to define what you want first and I look at it then and maybe add something to it? === tvoss|exercise is now known as tvoss [10:07] ogra_: building new image, didn't make it in [10:08] sergiusens, I just flashed a grouper with phablet-flash, latest raring_settings.py from people.c.c/~sergiusens/, and raring build #87, same problem, network list either displays "Empty!" or is completely black [10:08] netcurli, sure. I mean, basically I want what's above: if I give it a URL, it plays it and spools it to disk at the same time, and then playing that URL again just plays from cache without ever touching the network. However, I think I'd like to optionally be able to specify a "cache key" to use instead of the URL (for oauth URLs), and should there be a way to ask what's *in* the cache? (So you can tell which of [10:08] your sound resources are available if you're offline?) What do you think? [10:13] aquarius: so for the podcast app I need also the mechanic to download/cache a file without playing it at the same time to be able to play it later on. do you think, this should be also handled by such a CachingAudio object or if I should use a seperate download manager object for that? [10:14] netcurli, hrm. Interesting question. There's obviously benefit in having CachingAudio be able to do that, because then you don't need two downloaders... but... it is hard to see how it is in any way an Audio object if it is possible to use it to download stuff and never actually play any of it ;) [10:14] that is: I think that would harm its chances of getting integrated upstream [10:16] but the whole point of this exercise is to make it easy to play network audio from QML and get caching for free -- the instant we start saying "well, let's have a plugin thing that audio can optionally use", the answer becomes "write this in C++, no-one should be allowed to write pure QML apps" and then there is an argument :P) [10:17] Is there a file manager [10:17] with root privs [10:21] aquarius: so, do we want to try to use the existing Audio qml object and extend it with caching functionality or would it be better to use a more generic qt object to do the audio playback? [10:22] netcurli, my thought was that CachingAudio would be an Audio but with extra caching, rather than reimplementing the whole thing -- that way, you can just use CachingAudio from the start *even if you don't want to do caching just yet*, like an ordinary Audio [10:25] UserError1: yes, we have a file manager app in development === netcurli_ is now known as netcurli [10:28] Ok let me rephrase, what is the simplest way to integrate with any of the preinstalled scripting langs [10:29] i'm looking through the fs on hdd while on touch on gnex [10:29] i see a lot to work with === highvolt1ge is now known as highvoltage [10:31] aquarius: how would the seek method work on a CachingAudio object? I mean, the download part could just continue to write from the beginning and only the playback starts at the new position. Or we might want to somehow cache also from that new position on and combine that later with the rest [10:31] netcurli, see, this is why I'm talking to you about it rather than just doing it. [10:32] netcurli, I'm not sure about seeking. Maybe if you're in "cache this URL download as well" mode, you're not allowed to seek to uncached bits? [10:33] sergiusens, ok, fine === oreneeshy_ is now known as oreneeshy === ckpringle_ is now known as ckpringle [10:38] shadeslayer, hey ... mind trying something to get ttyGS0 to work ? [10:39] shadeslayer, try using a kernel with g_serial enabled, have console=tty0 and break=top set on your kernel cmdline and use this initrd http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/initrd.img ... you have to be very patient until ttyGS0 gets writable (i have to retry my screen command to attach to it for 1-2min here to get a prompt) [10:45] aquarius: I think, I'll set up some basic stuff to extend a simple qml Audio object to see what other things we have to think about [11:30] netcurli, that'd be cool. (I am hampered in this by not being able to write C++ :)) [11:46] ogra_: ofcourse [11:46] give me a couple of minutes [11:47] take your time :) [11:49] ogra_: what's special about the initrd? [11:49] i hacked the panic function [11:49] and preferably md5sum plz [11:49] forcing it to use ttyGS0 === SkavenXXI is now known as SkavenXXI-[OFF] [11:49] 890f0cc867bdc000ea11df7f9a5861b5 [11:50] awesome [11:50] kernel is compiling [11:50] as for ttyGS0 coming up, I usually just rebooted after 30-45 seconds [11:50] since nothing seemed to be happening [11:51] well, it doesnt work using console=ttyGS0 [11:51] and i havent managed yet to actually redirect the console to it either ... it will only serve for login [11:52] s/login/shell access/ [11:52] roger roger [11:53] my network is broken again I think [11:53] tracerouting xbox.com does not end after 30 hops [11:54] wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install - Step 2 Point 1 - "Power button + volume up + volume down" for Nexus 4 should just read "Power button + volume down" [11:54] linuxium, its a wiki ... fix it :) [11:56] now to wait for 3-4 minutes [11:56] booting already ? [11:56] ogra_: I think it is a generic page it's not just for the nexus 4 but for all the nexuses and some are different [11:56] @ogra_the wiki says " If you've got any troubles or questions with these installation instructions, there's a community willing to help" - I don't want to spoil it 8-) [11:57] ogra_: heh, actually, nope :P [11:57] davmor2, linuxium, hmm, then there should probably be subsections per device [11:59] ogra - good idea - lts appeal to the lowest common denominator === dandrader is now known as dandrader|lunch [12:12] ogra_: does the rootfs need to be flashed as well? [12:12] because with your initrd it just reboots after a bit [12:15] do you use g_serial or Gcomposite ? [12:15] g_serial [12:15] g_composite [12:15] i tested with g_composite over here ... it shouldnt reboot though [12:15] you said g_serial earier :OP [12:15] shouldnt matter at all [12:15] I see [12:15] both create GS0 [12:16] are you using break=top ? [12:16] yes [12:16] and didnt change the console= entry from whatever is the default [12:16] I used console=ttyGS0 [12:17] dont do that :) [12:17] change it to tty0 [12:17] heh okay :D [12:18] GS0 comes up to late to actually be used for /dev/console [12:18] thats the whole point of my hack :) [12:18] ah [12:19] oh [12:19] hmm [12:19] interesting [12:19] ogra_: http://i.imgur.com/BMlNeI3.png [12:20] I'll disable that for now [12:20] the wlan card ? [12:20] yep [12:20] it has hardcoded paths to firmware [12:20] shouldnt do any harm [12:21] will just not properly initialize the card ,,, but shouldnt cause a panic === Saviq is now known as Saviq|mtg === olli__ is now known as olli [12:36] ogra_: nope, if I enable VT + fbcon it just reboots [12:39] shadeslayer, ? [12:39] what are you doing there [12:40] you only need g_serial ... leave the cmdline untouched apart from adding break=top and use my initrd [12:40] okay [12:41] if that doesnt work and you have something like console= (with no value) on the commandline, then also set console=tty0 [12:41] uh, right now it's booting with "vmalloc=512M debug_core.break_on_panic=0 debug_core.break_on_exception=0 no_console_suspend s3c2410-wdt.tmr_atboot=1 s3c2410-wdt.tmr_margin=30 break=top" [12:42] once the device is up with black screen try: screen /dev/ttyACM0 115200 [12:42] and do that over and over if you get "cant find pty" or "device readonly" [12:42] it should eventually start to work [12:43] yeah, add a console=tty0 to that line so the initrd has a default console to attach to [12:43] and should I enable CONFIG_VT and fbcon? or should I leave those out for now? [12:45] dont touch them [12:45] you only want g_serial or composite [12:46] okay === dandrader|lunch is now known as dandrader === _salem is now known as salem_ [13:00] kgunn: you changed "[aacid] review FilterGrid: TODO" to "[aacid] review FilterGrid: DONE", I have not had time to look at it yet [13:01] anyone ported this to an atrix 4g yet ? [13:01] ogra_: nope, still doesn't work [13:01] ogra_: it boots the kernel and then reboots into android [13:02] ( I don't flash boot.img, I merely do fastboot zImage initrd.img ) [13:02] er, fastboot boot zImage initrd.img [13:02] no /dev/ttyACM0 comes up [13:03] didrocks: ping [13:04] shadeslayer, didnt you have ACM0 come up at some point yesterday ? [13:04] hey mhall119 [13:05] ogra_: uh, nope? [13:05] i though you did say it came up but the device rebooted instantly === juicyjones|away is now known as juicyjones [13:05] mhall119: no blog post? I feel so sad now :) [13:05] (you should better flash boot.img though) [13:06] mhall119: but your fingers probably bless you ;) [13:06] didrocks: I know, 2 days in a row without one [13:06] incredible ;) [13:06] didrocks: I need some packaging help [13:06] mhall119: sure, what's up? [13:06] https://code.launchpad.net/~chocanto/ubuntu-docviewer-app/plainText/+merge/159440 is a mostly QML app, but they had to write a small C++ wrapper for launching it [13:06] the code is in ./launcher/src/main.cpp [13:07] but I'm not sure how to get it build by debuild [13:07] mhall119: let me look, you have some cmake/autotools files I guess? [13:07] shadeslayer, this must work, i dont get why it doesnt for you .... but seems you do something wrong with enabling the driver [13:07] my process is to run "qmake ./launcher/src/docviewer-launcher.pro && make [13:07] ah qmake [13:08] not really familiar with it [13:08] it seems to look at the .pro file and generate a ./Makefile for make [13:08] mhall119: I think you need a .pro file in the root [13:08] so that debuild detect that you are using it [13:08] mhall119: let me look at the qmake backend [13:08] (for debhelper) [13:08] didrocks: would it be easier to just checkin the Makefile? [13:09] mhall119: you would still need a Makefile at the root of the package :) [13:09] ogra_: "Serial Gadget (with CDC ACM and CDC OBEX support) (USB_G_SERIAL)" thats what I enable [13:09] mhall119: and depends on how much you will have it to change [13:09] didrocks: right, that's where qmake puts it [13:09] ogra_: does it work for your nexus 10? [13:10] I don't think it will change much, and hopefully this wrapper will be replaced by something from the SDK team sometime before October [13:10] my @projects=glob($this->get_sourcepath('*.pro')); [13:10] mhall119: that's it, debhhelper wants a .pro at the root dir ^ [13:10] i dont have a nexus10, but it shouldnt make any difference ... if your kernel has a serial gadget ttyACM0 *must* show up at some point in dmesg [13:10] now, let's see how with qmake you can have a .pro [13:10] except it doesn't :P [13:10] and inlude the other .pro in a subddir [13:11] mhall119, don't check the makefile in.... it gets stuff that is specific to the install in it [13:11] kenvandine: you mean, it's not a generic makefile? :p [13:11] kenvandine: thanks, good to know [13:11] of course not :) [13:11] it could have your arch specific libdir, etc [13:12] shadeslayer, you definitely have something wrong in the kernel [13:12] no matter if you use my or any other initrd, ttyACM0 *must* come up ... so i would suggest changing to g_serial [13:12] I can post my .config if that makes a difference? [13:12] I have been using g_serial [13:13] I'll try CONFIG_USB_CDC_COMPOSITE now [13:13] yeah [13:13] did I mention g_serial is *huge* [13:14] make sure to have it compiled in indeed ... modules wont work [13:15] mhall119: ok, I think I got it [13:15] mhall119: want to branch the MP and propose it? [13:15] didrocks: branch what? [13:15] mhall119: lp:~chocanto/ubuntu-docviewer-app/plainText [13:15] mhall119: I started from this one [13:15] ogra_: ofcourse [13:15] not sure if trunk had that, let me check :p [13:16] didrocks: ok, that's not in trunk yet, so we'll need to get your changes into it [13:16] mhall119: yep, so I can make a MP agianst that branch if you want [13:16] didrocks: yes please [13:17] then I'll work with Oranger when he's online to get it merged and get his MP approved [13:17] thanks for the help didrocks [13:17] mhall119: yw ;) [13:17] * didrocks renames the .pro file to something else than foo.pro :p [13:17] bar.pro ? [13:18] ogra_: how did you guess it? :p [13:18] :) [13:18] mhall119: there is some cpp erreur in the main function, but it's not linked to that change FYI [13:18] with a beautiful: [13:19] cc1plus: some warnings being treated as errors [13:19] :) [13:19] didrocks: huh, it was working for me from ./launcher/src/docviewer-launcher.pro [13:20] mhall119: yeah, with direct "make" [13:20] mhall119: not with distro flags :) [13:20] ah, ok [13:20] I'll have him fix that [13:21] looks like it's on some error handling code that just prints the error [13:21] mhall119: yep [13:21] mhall119: https://code.launchpad.net/~didrocks/ubuntu-docviewer-app/build-fix/+merge/159823 FYI [13:21] ok, thanks again didrocks [13:21] tsdgeos: ack...let's chat at standup [13:21] yw ;) [13:23] ogra_: nopety nope [13:24] well, get your kernel fixed first ... else my initrd is moot [13:25] not sure how to do that since I basically do : make manta_defconfig, enable the composite driver, and add console=tty0 break=top to the boot parameters [13:25] and then all it shows is the google logo and no /dev/ttyACM0 [13:26] what does your PC show in dmesg if you boot ... nothing at all ? [13:27] nothing at all indeed [13:27] well, then your composite device doesnt work ... [13:28] you should see an USB nic as well as ttyACM0 come up [13:28] i suspect there is still something wrong with your config [13:29] hi [13:29] anyone here? [13:30] ogra_: config : http://paste.kde.org/728336 === Saviq|mtg is now known as Saviq [13:33] shadeslayer, CONFIG_USB_ACM=y [13:33] try that one [13:33] :) [13:33] last try, then I have to go :P [13:33] yours has it as "not set" [13:33] yeah [13:35] * shadeslayer crosses fingers [13:36] hah nope [13:36] nothing in dmesg ? [13:36] just reboots [13:36] nope [13:36] loads for about 20 seconds [13:36] :( [13:36] then reboots [13:36] that sounds liek kernel panicking [13:36] :S [13:37] lets continue in another 90 minutes? [13:37] * ogra_ really needs some of these devices [13:37] will ping you once I get back [13:37] i'm around [13:37] cool :) [13:39] ogra_: btw I thought it was break=y [13:39] could be wrong though [13:39] shadeslayer, you are :) [13:40] hi [13:40] :) [13:40] at least for ubuntu initrds [13:40] I want to install ubuntu in my samsung 7 inch tacb [13:40] break takes "top", "premount" and "bottom" as args [13:40] yeah, just read /usr/share/initramfs-tools/init [13:40] (probably more that i dont know off the top of my head) [13:40] is there any one to help me [13:42] raj_, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices ... if it is not there you will have to do a port yourself [13:42] port [13:43] port is creating my installer right [13:43] my own installer right [13:46] read the porting wikipage [13:46] (its in the channel topic) [13:47] pmcgowan: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/daily-preinstalled/20130419.1/quantal-preinstalled.changelog [13:47] pmcgowan: seems changelog is working properly [13:47] heh [13:47] * Automatic build of revision 38 is a bit annoying [13:47] yeah [13:47] thats completely pointless [13:48] it should contain whatever was available at the bzr log [13:48] rsalveti: right, wheres the real change? [13:48] but i guess you wont get anything better if the autobuilder doesnt produce proper entries [13:48] smells messy to me [13:48] pmcgowan, likely in the bzr tree ... [13:49] pmcgowan, that would need fxing in the autobuild stuff for packages ... [13:49] pmcgowan: in the bzr tree [13:49] autobuild needs fixing [13:49] be nice to fix [13:49] k [13:49] it should list the commits between two tags [13:49] didrocks: are you planning to fix that for the community apps ppa as well? [13:49] thats definitely a probalm in general ... [13:50] given that these packages will enter the archive [13:50] right [13:50] rsalveti: what's this? [13:51] rsalveti: it's not at all something we daily release [13:51] pmcgowan: ^ [13:51] I even didn't hear about those before today as the list of projects we should look at [13:53] rsalveti: what's wrong with the community apps ppa? [13:53] mhall119: the auto package release changelog [13:53] mhall119, the changes dont show up in debian/changes [13:53] mhall119: it's useless :-) [13:53] didrocks: might be handled by mhall119 then [13:54] mhall119, see http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/daily-preinstalled/20130419.1/quantal-preinstalled.changelog [13:54] "automatic build of foo" [13:55] fginther: ^^ is this something that would be changed in jenkins? [13:55] didrocks: what are you guys figuring out [13:55] pmcgowan: just that it's not handled by daily release :) [13:55] but I think it should [13:56] +1 [13:56] sudo reboot [13:56] bah ! [13:57] i never succeed rebooting the internet :( [13:58] rsalveti: btw, do you have time for a small hangout? there is some changes needed [13:58] in the iso [13:58] ogra_ as well :) [13:58] iso ? [13:58] dont scare me ! [13:58] :) [13:59] ogra_: you should be, you tried to reboot the Internet! :) [13:59] one day i'll succeed !!! [14:00] muhahah [14:00] :p [14:02] Hi. Do soft keyboard in ubuntu touch generate QKeyEvent? [14:02] Or how I can catch key event from soft keyboard? [14:02] didrocks: sure, give me the link [14:03] * ogra_ cant hangout from here :( [14:03] i could mumble [14:03] rsalveti: mumble then? [14:03] tmoenicke: ^^ can you answer ZDmitry's question? [14:04] didrocks: alright [14:05] ogra_: coming? [14:05] which room ? [14:05] i'm on the server :) [14:05]