[02:20] <llstarks> what's the best way to build and test xorg 1.14 right now?
[02:53] <RAOF> llstarks: It's not in edgers? (I don't follow it, so it may well not be)
[02:53] <llstarks> it is not
[02:53] <RAOF> Booo.
[02:53] <llstarks> and xorg-testers is defunct
[03:02] <bjsnider> you could grab the source and use the latest xorg-edgers build scripts to build debs
[03:02] <bjsnider> assuming it doesn't fail for lack of the right symbols and whatnot
[03:11] <Sarvatt> llstarks: https://launchpad.net/~canonical-x/+archive/x-staging
[03:12] <Sarvatt> unity wont work with it atm, darn thing gets uploaded every day and needs patches applied :)
[03:12] <llstarks> wonderful, that should work for my testing. last resort before stressing myself with arch
[03:12] <llstarks> is unity compiss still being developed or is the transition to qml happening here?
[03:13] <Sarvatt> i'll upload a new one now
[03:13] <llstarks> wait, when was 7.0 landed?
[03:13] <Sarvatt> its in maintenance mode but still lots of stuff happening with it
[03:13] <Sarvatt> not sure its actually 7.0
[03:14] <llstarks> that's some feature freeze we've got going on
[03:14] <Sarvatt> or maybe they'll call the 7.0 features 8.0 in SS :)
[03:16] <Sarvatt> pretty sure they just bumped it to 7.0 to keep the branches sane after they started landing new stuff and backed it out
[03:17] <Sarvatt> ok uploaded, give it 45 minutes or so and unity will be fine
[03:18] <bjsnider> compiss?
[03:18] <llstarks> compiz is dead. dev disowned it and so did canonical
[03:19] <llstarks> the last relic of beryl and wobbly windows
[03:19] <llstarks> the reason i started using ubuntu
[03:22] <ScottK> Not the last relic.
[03:22] <ScottK> The compositing code in kwin is a compiz fork.
[03:23] <llstarks> i keep forgetting that kde exists
[03:25] <bjsnider> llstarks, you definitely use gnome-shell then
[03:25] <llstarks> yup
[03:25] <llstarks> gotta have my insta-search
[03:27] <bjsnider> it's the only thing a person of conscience should be using, obviously
[03:29] <bjsnider> i'm not sure what kde's philosophy is at this point, or how it's relevant. would it work on a smartphone or something?
[03:38] <ScottK> There's plasma active for small tablets
[03:38] <llstarks> i suppose active plasma or whatever the hell it is would
[03:38] <ScottK> yes
[08:10] <MCR> ricotz, hi. I there's a new fglrx beta out for some time now: http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles/Pages/AMDCatalyst13-3LINBetaDriver.aspx
[08:10] <MCR> ricotz, could you update xorg-edgers PPA with it please ?
[11:20] <seb128> intel_do_flush_locked failed: Input/output error
[11:21] <seb128> shrug, another gpu hang when dnding wins between screen on my i5 docked laptop
[11:21]  * seb128 reboots
[11:21] <tjaalton> hmm
[11:21] <tjaalton> I'll try that
[11:21] <tjaalton> +to reproduce
[11:42] <tjaalton> seb128: I tried to reproduce but couldn't, guess it doesn't happen that often?
[11:42] <seb128> tjaalton, define "often", I don't dare doing dnd between my 2 screens
[11:42] <tjaalton> otoh, unplugging the tv corrupted the top-half of the laptop panel
[11:42] <seb128> it happens at least once a day
[11:42] <seb128> and I do like 5 dnd a day
[11:42] <tjaalton> seb128: like not immediately
[11:42] <seb128> no
[11:43] <seb128> I tend to use the workspace expose and dnd stuff in that view to workaround it
[11:53] <tjaalton> seb128: could you test what happens on unplug?
[11:55] <seb128> tjaalton, you mean?
[11:56] <tjaalton> seb128: unplug the external monitor
[11:56] <seb128> tjaalton, unplugging what? one of the 2 screens?
[11:56] <tjaalton> seb128: you have two external monitors, and laptop screen closed?
[11:56] <tjaalton> lid closed
[11:56] <seb128> yes
[11:57] <seb128> well lid is not closed
[11:57] <seb128> but laptop screen is turned off from the display capplet
[11:57] <tjaalton> so three screens in total?
[11:57] <tjaalton> ah
[11:57] <seb128> I stopped closing the lid because the laptop screen wouldn't be detected on boot
[11:57] <seb128> and then I can't undock my laptop
[11:57] <seb128> or rather I can but get no screen :p
[11:57] <tjaalton> ok, guess you can't test my bug then :)
[11:58] <tjaalton> file yours btw
[11:58] <seb128> I unplugged one of the 2 screens
[11:59] <seb128> that reactivated my laptop screen and moved the content that was on the external that got unplugged to it
[11:59] <tjaalton> now unplug the other screen
[11:59] <seb128> replugged the external one and I'm back to my initial config
[11:59] <tjaalton> k
[12:01] <seb128> tjaalton, unplugging the second screen leads me with my laptop screen in use and working
[12:07] <tjaalton> alright, thanks
[12:25] <tjaalton> I can reproduce this too, bah
[12:40] <tjaalton> seb128: btw, I think your bug is fixed in 3.9 kernel, but hard to sru :/
[12:41] <tjaalton> and my bug was bug #1157678
[12:41] <seb128> tjaalton, you can reproduce the gpu hand on dnd between screens?
[12:41] <seb128> kernel :-(
[12:42] <tjaalton> seb128: no, but there are a number of commits to fix pageflip issues, which should help with it
[12:43] <tjaalton> hey, it's all kernel these days, even more so in the future :)
[12:43] <tjaalton> maybe some mesa but that's about it
[12:47] <tjaalton> who forgot to push -intel git?
[12:47] <tjaalton> bryce: ^ :)
[13:34] <tjaalton> wth, fixed the lightdm race upstart job by accident..
[13:53] <tjaalton> ohyes
[13:54] <tjaalton> http://pastebin.com/2bZu24yG
[15:57] <tjaalton> ok not that version, but it's still fixed \o/
[16:52] <mlankhorst> tjaalton: that hack is awful and you should feel awful ;)
[16:53] <mlankhorst> and the if was unneeded there
[17:16] <tjaalton> mlankhorst: old version
[17:16] <tjaalton> slangasek made a better one, and I fixed that too
[17:17] <tjaalton> here http://pastebin.com/reb2kPJw
[17:18] <tjaalton> added plymouth --ping, and dropped --no-wait from initctl
[17:18] <tjaalton> now it's working for both cases, normal and plymouth-in-initrd
[17:19] <mlankhorst> ah good
[17:20] <tjaalton> this should be added to plymouth in any case, enabling it in *dm.conf can be left as SRU material if necessary
[23:24] <llstarks> re xorg 1.14 discussion last night: x-staging ppa isn't really functional, lacks drivers like synaptics
[23:24] <llstarks> causes unstable apt
[23:52] <llstarks> still no luck with nvidia 319 on hybrid, might need to try arch to eliminate distro as a variable