[05:05] <trender> (.)(.)
[05:05] <trender>   __
[05:27] <trender> morning people rise and shine
[05:42] <trender> mornin kilos
[05:42] <Kilos> morning trender 
[05:42] <Kilos> hi superfly and others
[05:42] <trender> os i wonder when our banks are gonna collapse
[05:43] <trender> it looks like we are gonna go back to gold and silver coins
[06:13] <Squirm> morning
[06:13] <Squirm> I think
[06:14] <Squirm> least I assume so
[06:14] <Squirm> though it's dark outside
[06:15] <Kilos> hi Squirm looks like big rain coming
[06:15] <Kilos> hope some reaches us
[06:15] <Kilos> need lotsa water here or gonna be a bad winter
[06:21] <Squirm> snowed on the berg yesterday
[06:49] <Squirm> Kilos: it rained yesterday. it's been raining since I woke up
[06:49] <Squirm> still is
[06:50] <Kilos> just had a few drops here just now
[06:50] <Kilos> hi henkj 
[06:50] <henkj> hi kilos
[07:03] <inetpro> good mornings
[07:16] <Kilos> morning inetpro 
[08:22] <Kilos> hi Vince-0 zeref 
[08:22] <Vince-0> Hi Kilos, Tinuva 
[08:23] <Vince-0> busy trolling #linux on ShadowFire
[08:25] <skillpiG> Ohai
[08:25] <Vince-0> I would like to get all the Linux type peeps in one place - there is no "master" mail-list for Linux in ZA is there?
[08:25]  * skillpiG pokes Tinuva 
[08:25] <Vince-0> hi skillpiG 
[08:26] <Vince-0> Kilos, look!Found more people
[08:26] <skillpiG> I will make you regret that
[08:26] <skillpiG> :p
[08:26] <Kilos> ohi Tinuva welcome to ubuntu-za
[08:26] <skillpiG> I have a natural effect on people
[08:26] <skillpiG> more like, digital.
[08:27] <Kilos> hi skillpiG welcome to ubuntu-za
[08:27] <Vince-0> skillpiG, tell your friends - we need to grow the ZA Linux community
[08:27] <Kilos> tell us about yourselvews
[08:28] <Kilos> yourselves as well
[08:28] <Kilos> yes Vince-0 
[08:28] <skillpiG> I have no friends
[08:28] <Kilos> http://bit.ly/MCOujZ
[08:28] <skillpiG> don't even know why Tinuva is talking to me
[08:29] <Kilos> thats the mailing list
[08:30] <Vince-0> Kilos, I'm on the ubuntu-za list but can it be called the go to place for Linux for ZA
[08:30] <Kilos> lol
[08:31] <Kilos> if they dont push ubuntu to one side i dont see why not
[08:31] <Kilos> inetpro: what you think?
[08:32] <Kilos> everyone linux is welcome here so i dont see that the list should not be a part of the US
[08:32] <Kilos> often linux peeps can help ubuntu users
[08:33] <Vince-0> yep
[08:34] <Kilos> lets just hear what the pro and fly say but i feel they are welcome
[08:34] <Kilos> but then they must say morning to me when i greet inna morn
[08:35] <Kilos> hehe
[08:35] <Vince-0> ha
[08:35] <Kilos> are they from your lug Vince-0 
[08:35] <Kilos> ?
[08:36] <skillpiG> good day Kilos 
[08:39] <Vince-0> Kilos, nope - just joined #linux on ShadowFire and started rambling
[08:39] <skillpiG> made 7 people upset
[08:39] <tonberryE352> try to ignite a vim/emacs flamewar
[08:39] <skillpiG> this will start an epic e-battle 
[08:39] <skillpiG> SHADOWFIRE vs FREENODE
[08:40] <Vince-0> freenode wins,
[08:41] <Vince-0> for a global context anyways
[08:41] <Kilos> but no wars here, we are a peaceful channel
[08:42] <inetpro> hehe Kilos, you starting a war again?
[08:42] <Kilos> no inetpro read about the list
[08:42] <inetpro> :-)
[08:42] <Kilos> with Vince-0 s suggestion we will grow methinks
[08:43] <inetpro> I must be honest I don't think ubuntu-za is the place for all linux peeps, there are lots of them who can't stand ubuntu
[08:44] <Vince-0> inetpro, that is very true but it doesn't help to be at all exclusive in a smaller community (ZA)
[08:44] <tonberryE352> well us "dumb ubuntu users" need a channel somewhere
[08:44] <inetpro> lots of more generic linux stuff used to be discussed on the Gauteng Linux User Group (GLUG) mailing lists
[08:44] <Vince-0> I'm on the various LUG mail-lists
[08:45] <Vince-0> I'm making a local communities page on the DBNLUG site to list all the channels of comms
[08:45] <Vince-0> clugs got some good links
[08:45] <inetpro> I'm mnot trying to make ubuntu-za exclusive at all but I just think we should try as much as possible to keep focussed on stuff that works on Ubuntu
[08:47] <inetpro> while the fact that it's a .za forum does makes it a bit broader than just a regional based user group 
[08:48] <inetpro> I don't have a problem with generic linux discussions, but I'm not the boss here
[08:48] <Vince-0> true, context here is important as it is with the LUGs - we've chatted about this context thing here before
[08:49] <Vince-0> I'd just like to see everyone involved with *nix, FLOSS in one place so there might be a big conference type event
[08:49] <Vince-0> all I see is TechEd - yawn
[08:50] <inetpro> good to see some activity here
[08:50] <inetpro> not sure whether we'll ever have a huge croud in here at once
[08:50] <inetpro> not everyone uses IRC
[08:50] <skillpiG> everyone that matters use IRC
[08:51] <Vince-0> no, but at least an association - Email is ubiquitous 
[08:51] <skillpiG> and that is law.
[08:52] <Vince-0> oh, scale-conf is on right now but I couldn't get there
[08:52] <inetpro> ubiquitous is a big word, Kiloswat beteken dit?
[08:52] <inetpro> Maaz: define ubiquitous
[08:52] <Maaz> inetpro: Ubiquitous \U*biq"ui*tous\ ([-u]*b[i^]k"w[i^]*t[u^]s), a. [See {Ubiquity}.] Existing or being everywhere, or in all places, at the same time; omnipresent. -- {U*biq"ui*tous*ly}, adv. [1913 Webster]  In this sense is he ubiquitous.          --R. D. Hitchcock. [1913 Webster], ubiquitous adj 1: being present everywhere at once [syn: {omnipresent},
[08:52] <Maaz> {ubiquitous}]
[08:52] <Vince-0> meer mense gebruik dit as IRC
[08:52] <inetpro> ahh... true
[08:54] <inetpro> the sad reality is that with social media we just have way to many distractions these days
[08:54]  * Vince-0 busy reading past the 3rd page of Google search results for Linux in pages for South Africa
[08:54] <Kilos> Maaz: define ubiquity
[08:54] <Maaz> Kilos: Ubiquity \U*biq"ui*ty\ ([-u]*b[i^]k"w[i^]*t[y^]), n. [L. ubique everywhere, fr. ubi where, perhaps for cubi, quobi (cf. alicubi anywhere), and if so akin to E. who: cf. F. ubiquit['e].] 1. Existence everywhere, or in all places, at the same time; omnipresence; as, the ubiquity of God is not disputed by those who admit his existence. [1913 Webster]  The arms
[08:54] <Maaz> of Rome . . . were impeded by . . . the wide spaces to be traversed and the ubiquity of t…
[08:54] <Vince-0> ya, social usually means brain rot if you stare at it long enough
[08:55]  * inetpro gets way to many emails per day, so tend to stay away from huge email discussions 
[08:55] <Vince-0> mail-lists tend to be a bit clumsy especially with digest subject headers
[08:56] <inetpro> true
[08:56] <tumbleweed> digets are awful
[08:56] <tumbleweed> you just want to filter mailing lists into folders, and use a decent e-mail client
[08:56] <tumbleweed> don't be afraid of getting thousands of e-mail a day
[08:56] <Vince-0> but what are the options? A myBB forum?: busy looking at Linux forum on mybroadband
[08:57] <tumbleweed> forms are horrible because you have to go and look at them
[08:57] <skillpiG> tumbleweed 
[08:57]  * inetpro agrees with tumbleweed
[08:57] <skillpiG> I remember that name
[08:57] <skillpiG> perhaps in a mumble channel, with demonik
[08:58] <tumbleweed> ohi
[09:00] <Kilos> ha inetpro ctrl+R is really helpful hey?
[09:00] <Kilos> ty
[09:01] <tumbleweed> skillpiG: naah, never used mumble in my life
[09:01] <skillpiG> I don't believe you
[09:01] <skillpiG> I will greet you as the same person that was on mumble
[09:02] <inetpro> Vince-0: what are you planning to achieve by having all Linux type peeps in one place?
[09:02] <skillpiG> zombie nodes
[09:02] <skillpiG> DDoS the government
[09:02] <inetpro> :-)
[09:03] <inetpro> ai!
[09:04] <tonberryE352> good luck with that...
[09:05] <Vince-0> inetpro, just a ZA Linux community entity - imagine there was a computer expo with a bit Linux contingent - geeks would need to know
[09:06] <skillpiG> talking about geeks
[09:06] <Vince-0> there seems to be very little corporate interest in any Linux community, which is a bit counter-intuitive for fostering open culture and all that
[09:06] <skillpiG> anyone here running an AMD piledriver with ubuntu ?
[09:07] <inetpro> Vince-0: I think it was with kmf at the helm of it we tried this with floss.pro
[09:07] <skillpiG> having some trouble with 12.10
[09:09] <Kilos> hmm... there was something about amd the other day here
[09:09] <Kilos> i cant scroll back so far
[09:10] <Vince-0> inetpro, what's kmf and floss.pro
[09:11] <Kilos> kmf is a nick and floss.pro is a channel on irc
[09:11] <inetpro> Vince-0: kmf = Karl Fisher who used to have hist own microblogging site running at http://floss.pro
[09:11] <Kilos> and a site methinks
[09:11] <inetpro> and in fact we still have the irc channel #floss.pro
[09:12] <Vince-0> ah yes, I looked at that before
[09:12] <inetpro> Vince-0: but not much happened there for a very long time
[09:13] <inetpro> even back then it became very clear to me that it will always be very difficult to get everyone talking on a single platform
[09:13] <inetpro> s/platform/medium/
[09:14] <inetpro> but obviously we should not give up trying
[09:19] <inetpro> Vince-0: most of those who were on floss.pro ended up just using twitter
[09:19] <Vince-0> social is never one platform
[09:20] <inetpro> the nice thing about using something like twitter is that you are free to talk about any subject
[09:21] <Vince-0> I check the Twit occasionally
[09:22] <Vince-0> I think a mail-list is the lowest common denominator
[09:22] <inetpro> always
[09:23] <inetpro> unfortunately that is still true
[09:23] <Vince-0> ey it's good enough for the Linux kernel devs
[09:24] <Vince-0> would be nice to have a sizable Linux contingent at something like Rage
[09:25] <Vince-0> does Rage overlook people with their own PCs and pirate software?
[09:26] <skillpiG> I believe so
[09:26] <skillpiG> I don't think they have the right to inspect people's software before allowing them in
[09:26] <skillpiG> could be a tedious process
[09:27] <skillpiG> and lose 90% of their league competitors
[09:28] <Vince-0> the alternative is have the pirate busters show up and start breaking people's games
[09:28] <Vince-0> and pr0n
[09:29] <skillpiG> haha
[09:29] <skillpiG> I rate, if you want to attend a LAN like rAge, you should go with a small - medium crowd of people playing the same game
[09:29] <skillpiG> to have fun with your mates etc
[09:29] <skillpiG> copying you can do at home
[09:30] <skillpiG> unless you go to fill up 10TB
[09:30] <skillpiG> I don't even know what you want to do with 10TB of movies and series :|
[09:30] <skillpiG> or the alternative is to go to rAge
[09:30] <skillpiG> to pick up those hot sponsor girls
[09:31] <Vince-0> ha, I'm sure they get sick of geeks hitting on them - the ratio is like 1000:1
[09:45] <Vince-0> busy reading about makululinux.com - from Mybroadband forums, which has a very active Linux sub-forum
[09:49] <skillpiG> saw that a while ago on newshost
[09:49] <skillpiG> looks like a nice idea
[09:51] <Vince-0> yep, and local too - the guy deserves some support and feedback
[09:52] <Kilos> Vince-0: how far can you scroll back
[09:52] <Kilos> there is a special ubuntu for amd i think the weed said
[09:53] <inetpro> Kilos: what are you looking for?
[09:53] <Kilos> skillpiG: having probs with 12.10 on a amd  inetpro 
[09:54] <Vince-0> ha, Kilos - a couple of days in this client
[09:54] <Vince-0> oh, in gnome-term I use like 100k lines
[09:54] <Kilos> was maybe 4 or 5 back with that amd toy of trender s
[09:54] <inetpro> Kilos: 13/04 13:50:48 <magespawn> Kilos have another pc with an amd 980mhz chip and a nvidia card
[09:54] <Kilos> there was a link for ubuntu and amd
[09:55] <skillpiG> it was a pretty weird problem
[09:55] <skillpiG> top reports 100% cpu utilization
[09:55] <skillpiG> but everyone responds fairly immediate
[09:55] <skillpiG> and then it shuts down
[09:55] <skillpiG> not the temperature or power
[09:55] <Kilos> ai!
[09:55] <skillpiG> works stable in windows 8
[09:56] <Kilos> googling dont give me that amd ubuntu link
[09:57] <Vince-0> Kilos, search online logs?
[09:57] <Kilos> hehe Vince-0 my eye reads too slow
[09:57] <Kilos> will take forever
[09:57] <Vince-0> egrep!
[09:57] <Kilos> maybe we ask tumbleweed 
[09:58] <inetpro> Kilos: Logs: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com 
[09:58] <Kilos> the link for ubuntu and amd please tumbleweed 
[09:58] <Kilos> ai!
[09:58] <Kilos> 4 or 5 days
[09:58] <tumbleweed> Kilos: eh?
[09:58] <Kilos> ill be here another 2 just trying to read
[09:59] <Kilos> tumbleweed: do you have that link for ubuntu onto a amd pc please
[09:59] <tumbleweed> Kilos: there's nothing special about AMD processors
[10:00] <Vince-0> house4hack is having their Ubuntu Raring release party in Randburg on the 4th of May
[10:01] <Kilos> oh my im sure i read something about it uses other kernel stuff or something here
[10:01] <Kilos> ai!
[10:01] <Kilos> maybe i dreamed it
[10:03] <Kilos> or maybe i was on maverick at the time
[10:03] <Kilos> sigh
[10:08] <tumbleweed> there's never really been anything spceial about AMD CPUs, they are clones of Intel CPUs
[10:08] <tumbleweed> AMD invented the 64bit x86 architecture, so we call it amd64
[10:09] <tumbleweed> but Intel support it too
[10:09] <tumbleweed> so, really, nothing special
[10:11] <Kilos> ah ty tumbleweed 
[10:32] <Kilos> aw skillpig shoulda looked at what is using 100% cpu
[14:03] <Kilos> ohi superfly 
[14:03] <Kilos> you been busy hey
[14:05] <superfly> yes, at a conference, along with tumbleweed and a few others
[14:12] <Kilos> ah
[14:13] <Kilos> aw shame and i bothered him, say im sorry please
[14:13] <tumbleweed> Kilos: no problem at all. I'm sitting with a laptop on my lap
[14:13] <tumbleweed> I have way more time for IRC when I'm at conferences, then normally :)
[14:14] <Kilos> ty but you guys should just let us know if you doing things like that 
[14:14] <Kilos> lol
[14:15]  * tumbleweed is getting through huge mountains of e-mail too
[14:15] <Kilos> hehe
[14:16] <Kilos> are they talking been there done that stuff
[14:17] <tumbleweed> actually a really good talk on SKA right now
[14:17] <tumbleweed> (last talk of the conference)
[14:18] <tumbleweed> http://scaleconf.org/schedule
[15:42] <Kilos> hi Trix[a]r_za Cantide 
[15:42] <Cantide> hello :)
[15:42] <Kilos> and Zarw 
[15:43] <Kilos> he never acknowledges
[16:03] <Kilos> wbb after storm
[17:16] <Kilos> hmm...
[17:16] <Kilos> evening all
[17:25] <Vince-0> G'd eve
[19:30] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[20:34] <trender> (.)(.)
[20:34] <trender>   __
[20:34] <Tonberry_> are those breasts or eyes?
[20:35] <trender> :)
[20:35] <trender> just checking for signs of life man
[20:35] <trender> yes i can asure you
[20:35] <trender> eyes 
[20:36] <trender> ey the linux okes are a serious bunch :)
[20:37] <Tonberry_> 22:30 on a Friday evening? People have social lives
[20:38] <trender> some do yea
[20:38] <trender> i dont try work to hard
[20:38] <trender> more smarter that harder
[20:38] <trender> than 
[20:39] <trender> but i keep strange hours
[20:57] <trender> beetroot sarmies anyone ? 
[22:01] <somaunn> Hello