[08:24] <Tor-Mentor> Hi! im having some wierd problems with my scripts and bash_completion. Service does not autocomplete my scripts but initctl does. Does it depend on the content in the scripts somehow?
[08:34] <jodh> Tor-Mentor: /usr/sbin/service is *not* an upstart command - it's a SysV one. However, to make life more familiar, links are created from /etc/init.d/$foo to the corresponding upstart jobs in /etc/init/ to allow you to continue to use that command.
[08:34] <jodh> Tor-Mentor: hence, if you want the bash completion, please use initctl.
[08:37] <Tor-Mentor> aahh thanks. That clears that one up! 
[14:35] <tjaalton> do you folks see anything alarming on this job http://pastebin.com/2bZu24yG
[14:48] <jodh> tjaalton: you don't need the "console output". It's possible your job will never detect plymouth-splash running though I think as your job is probably going to start after plymouth-splash.
[14:49] <tjaalton> jodh: oh right, that was cruft..
[14:49] <jodh> tjaalton: also, your job is going to run that ping in a very tight loop.
[14:49] <tjaalton> ugh, yes :)
[14:49] <jodh> tjaalton: are you looking to put this change into raring?
[14:49] <tjaalton> jodh: if possible, yes
[14:49] <tjaalton> ok added 'sleep 0.1 after fi
[14:50] <jodh> tjaalton: ok - if this goes in though and other jobs are changed to make use of the new event, I lot of testing is going to have to happen in the next week :)
[14:50] <tjaalton> jodh: yeah..
[14:50] <tjaalton> only lightdm for now I think
[14:52] <jodh> tjaalton: ok. Are QA aware they'll need to test this?
[14:52] <tjaalton> not yet
[14:53] <tjaalton> slangasek suggested to use 'start on startup or started plymouth-splash' and it worked this time (didn't before for some reason)
[14:53] <jodh> tjaalton: just spotted another problem: you 'if' and 'while' reference 'STARTED' where it should be '$STARTED'.
[14:53] <tjaalton> this can go in plymouth in any case
[14:53] <tjaalton> testing lightdm can be done as an sru
[14:53] <tjaalton> duh
[14:54] <tjaalton> good thing lp timed out when adding it to the bug..
[14:54] <tjaalton> :)
[14:54] <tjaalton> it's a monster bug with 100+ dupes
[17:26] <tjaalton> ok, the upstart job is now good enough, thanks for your help :)
[17:33] <elmo> jodh: hey is there an ETA for the upstart dbus bridge  and/or anything already written?
[17:37] <jodh> elmo: no concrete eta, although I was hoping to have something for 'S'. No code yet. We have a dconf/dsettings bridge that's almost complete.
[17:37] <elmo> jodh: ok, cool, just curious, most of my ideas for user upstart jobs would trigger off of dbus
[17:41] <slangasek> AIUI a dbus bridge is not currently a priority for the desktop team
[17:41] <slangasek> we'll double-check that with them next month, though
[17:44] <elmo> FAOD, my curiousity is entirely idle/spare time and not professional :)
[17:46] <slangasek> elmo: so you're not writing a job that runs 'juju deploy' based on an incoming indicator-message event? ;)
[17:47] <elmo> yes, that's my plan for juju auto scale
[17:47] <elmo> pagerduty + ubuntu webapps + indicator-osd + upstart-dbus-bridge + user upstart job -> juju add-unit
[17:47] <elmo> :-P
[17:48] <elmo> (oh god, that's so horrible, I want to bleach out my own mind)
[17:48]  * slangasek giggles
[17:50] <elmo> no, FWIW, I mostly want to be able to see things like network changes and screen lock/unlock events, which AFAIK are announced most usefully on DBus
[17:50]  * slangasek nods
[17:55] <xnox> slangasek: that quote on the wiki, got me scared =)
[17:56] <slangasek> xnox: is your entire life RSS-driven? :)
[17:57] <xnox> slangasek: ssshhh
[17:59] <xnox> slangasek: have you seen this yet http://youtu.be/A25VgNZDQ08 that was my reaction when I heard the news about google reader shutdown.
[18:00] <slangasek> funny thing is, I had just started using Google Reader on my phone two weeks before the announcement
[18:01] <xnox> slangasek: yeah, I'm waiting for newsblur to scale, their mobile app is good enough. They are scalability issues, since they got effectively DDOSed after google reader announcement.
[18:01]  * xnox ponders if Blogger and Feedburner are the next to get the cut. Cause clearly people should blog by doing "public posts on G+"
[18:03] <slangasek> "It may amaze you gentlement that Orkut is still up and running" -hahaha
[18:04] <slangasek> xnox: right... except for the days that G+ is failing to add stuff to your stream
[18:04] <slangasek> (I had a ~16h outage where people I'm following were not having their posts showing up in my stream - right before the google docs outage)
[18:04] <xnox> ouch.
[18:05] <xnox> well..... I can't tell the difference on my G+ feed really. Half of it is cats, the other half is people playing ingress.
[18:06] <slangasek> you should follow more interesting people
[18:06] <slangasek> like jodh
[18:07] <slangasek> O right, all his G+ posts are links to his blog which you already have in RSS ;)
[18:07] <xnox> =))))
[18:08] <xnox> i follow people who reshare interesting rss feed posts via google reader instead =)