[00:38] hello [00:39] i downloaded libre office on xubuntu, but i do not know how to make it an application that is usable. can someone help me? [00:48] dirsch goto a terminal> type this: sudo apt-get install libreoffice [00:48] poof it will be in your menu [00:55] in ssh keys - what are the last thing in public key. Is that like user@host ... or it can be any remark? [01:12] do you have to download lan games to play === SonikkuAmerica1 is now known as SonikkuAmerica [02:11] hello, I just made a blog post on what I think could be improved on xubuntu, could I post it here? [02:12] As a link, but in #xubuntu-offtopic [02:12] thanks === xubuntu379 is now known as nezb [02:33] Just upgraded from 12.10 to 13.04... Xubuntu rocks! [02:33] The only sensible desktop Linux still around... all the other distros are going off the deep-end :P [02:33] Awesome. Now for the next week, support goes into #ubuntu+1 instead... [02:33] Oh really? What about Kubuntu? [02:34] Kubuntu is good, but I still prefer Xfce [02:34] although I must admit, KDE has come a long way since I first used it ... at version 1.x [02:35] Xfce is serious - "no frills" [02:35] KDE 4.WhateverTheHeckThey'reOnTheseDays is awesome. [02:35] nezb: GNOME 2, but not GNOME, nor 2.. [02:35] It even has its own compositing manager, but you can use Compiz with it too [02:36] I don't need all that fancy stuff :P [02:36] (although I admit, transparent window borders look nice) [02:36] oh, and if there's any developers or maintainers in this channel, props to you too [02:38] Believe me, they're in here.. [02:39] SonikkuAmerica: probably have the window hidden as they frantically put the finishing touches before release day ;) [02:39] isn't it ~1 week from now? [02:40] Yes. [02:40] 6 days in fact. [02:40] so I guess technically we're in the release candidate stage [02:40] Yeah, but there is no RC to be seen. [02:41] the daily builds are pretty much RC [02:42] There actually used to be designated RCs [02:42] it seems pretty stable to me [02:42] except for pulseaudio using 100% of my CPU from time to time ... [02:42] but I don't blame xubuntu on that [02:43] That's something to blame PulseAudio on. If your sound card is that low-end use Lubuntu [02:43] It still uses ALSA by default. [02:43] it's an integrated sound card, but pulseaudio worked just fine in 12.04 and 12.10 [02:44] Expect it to. Those are stable releases. [02:44] and 13.04 isn't stable!? [02:44] No [02:44] :( [02:44] Not until 25 April [02:45] Well, I like to live on the bleeding edge [02:45] Then, just like in test cricket, it will be declared. [02:45] if restarting pulseaudio every time it freaks out is what it takes to be on the bleeding edge... then I'll live with it [02:45] * nezb sighs [02:46] ok all. it's time for me to go. [02:46] bye! [02:46] Me 2 bai [02:46] nezb Its not you [02:47] It happened to another guy and me last night [03:59] thinkpad t40 (Pentium M 1gb RAM) has Xubuntu 12.10 installed now. PC is not PAE compliant, package installer is broken and won't repair, I need to install Abiword or Libreoffice. The Ubuntu website includes instructions for installing Ubuntu, where user is given the choice of replacing existing OS or not. I do want to replace Xubuntu 12.10 with Xubuntu 12.4. How do I do this? Thanks. [04:01] is ur partition seperated? [04:03] How do u recommend I check on partitions? [04:05] u have all ur data backup? [04:06] not much data. [04:07] I'm familiar with unetbootin, bootable usb, gparted. [04:07] well if u dont need those then just install as usual [04:07] but i cannot install anything now, b/c installer is broken. [04:08] put in livecd or liveusb [04:08] i could use a different pc to create bootable usb [04:08] sure [04:08] please tell me in advance what u plan to do. thanks. [04:09] didnt u want to reinstall? [04:11] are u familiar with the non-PAE compliant issue? is Xubuntu 12.4 the one to use? [04:11] PAE is only for ppl that wants to use 32bit system that has 4GB ram+ [04:12] thanks. [04:12] otherwise just use the regualer 32bit [04:13] in running repair of the installer on Xubuntu 12.10, get error message that this PC is not PAE compliant and installer isn't repairable. I do plan to use the 32 bit 12.4, or should i go to a version prior to that? [04:15] 12.4 is fine [04:15] quit [04:15] logoff [04:15] how do i logoff? [04:16] where u at === daim2k5_Zzz is now known as daim2k5 [08:37] does anyone online have testdrive installed? i need some bugs confirmed [08:48] does anyone online have testdrive installed? i need some bugs confirmed [08:53] Noskcaj, please don't repeat [08:54] Noskcaj, besides, i would imagine there are better places to ask for help with that, like #ubuntu-quality or even #xubuntu-devel [08:54] knome, oops, hadn't realised i posted twice. and i have [09:21] Hi all [09:22] Anyone can tell if xubuntu 13.04 will be a LTS version? [09:22] no info on google available... [09:23] Joe_______: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS [09:24] Joe_______: all Ubuntu derivatives release their LTS versions (if they have them) at same time with the main distribution which is every even year april. [09:24] at the current pattern [09:44] Ooops,.. Got disconnected [09:44] Thanks Myrtti [09:45] The reason I'm asking is that Xubuntu seems to be offering LTS every two years [09:45] There was no 11.04 LTS, 9.04 or 7.04 LTS [09:45] [11:23:35] < koegs> Joe_______: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS [09:46] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xubuntu [09:46] Joe_______: as I said, every even year. [09:47] I know about Ubuntu being LTS every April, but it does not seem to apply on Xubuntu [09:47] Am I mistaken? [09:47] no, not every april [09:47] just read the wiki, LTS will be every two years for Ubuntu and Xubuntu is following that schedule [09:48] "all Ubuntu derivatives release their LTS versions (if they have them) at same time with the main distribution which is every even year April." [09:50] Oh, I see [09:51] So 18 months support, right? [09:52] Joe_______: did you even take a look here? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS [09:53] You get free security updates for at least 9 months on the desktop and server. [09:53] That's what I read [09:53] But from previous versions I have in mind that it was 18 [09:54] I also see on the diagram that the orange bars are getting shorter in time [09:56] Joe_______, from 12.10, regular releases are supported for 9 monts and LTS releases (for xubuntu) 36 months. [10:02] Thanks again [10:02] It's a shame, 13.04 looks sooo much better.... [10:03] you can simply upgrade to 13.10 when it's out and you'll have the extended support period [10:05] I think we'll stick to 12.04 and try apt-get dist-upgrade next year [10:06] If something fails we'll stick to 12.04 until 2017 [10:08] Joe_______, the xubuntu-speciifc parts only have 3 years of support though. [10:09] Thanks for pointing out knome! This is important! [10:11] Anyone else interested in support and reasoning on short 9 months: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/technical-board/2013-March/001527.html [10:13] Joe_______: the Ubuntu effort on mobile devices. [10:23] well tbh, 18 months for the interim releases was "too good" to start with. i'm glad it happened though, but it's time to move on [10:32] Knome thx for the help last night i got the permission right [10:33] So i can save all my work [10:34] antisober552, good [10:38] Hi all [10:38] does anyone have problems with thunderbird (xubuntu 12.04)? [10:39] Hi everyone... top of the morning for you guys :) [10:40] when i reply or write new mail, thunderbird open a new window after very very very very long time.... [10:41] it happen also when i open a mail in a new window... and it didn't happen if i open a mail in a new tab [10:43] Can anyone send me a list of printer brands that are Xubuntu friendly? [10:44] jpmartins, http://www.openprinting.org/printers [10:45] Cool thanks... is that list regularly updated? [10:45] as people test new printers, yes [10:45] (and send them to that database, of coursE) [10:45] Of course :D [10:46] how much does enabling/disabling compositing affect battery run time? [10:46] Well thanks a bunch and have a great day :) [10:47] you too [10:49] ... xubuntu 12.04 lts... apport doesn't work... ??? ubuntu-bug works... i am confused... why? [10:50] And a great weekend for all :) mine will be spended surfing... Lisbon has 25º C and mild winds for the weekend with some great waves pumping. For you guys who also love surfing... this is like honey :D [11:11] Dabido [11:12] Oops, so this morning when I turned on my box [11:12] Compositing and windows borders were gone [11:13] I'm using Xubuntu 12.04 but with the xfce ppa (Thunar 1.6.2) [11:13] The mouse cursor is always busy, too [11:14] Any ideas? Or at least, who should I report the bug to? [11:14] Cheers [11:15] Dabido, for starters, the ppa is not officially supported [11:15] Dabido, you might want to run xfwm4 to get the window borders back though [11:17] I understand. However, I'm a little confused as to where should I report the bug. Isn't it the expected thing to do? (I'll check xfwm4) [11:17] well... not really, since you are running an unsupported version. [11:20] Well, aren't some people (Xfce developers, for instance) interested in knowing this kind of things...? [11:21] possibly. the point is that your bug might be a regression of you using the ppa [11:21] so what is the bug even? [11:21] window borders disappearing? [11:24] No more borders, no compositing (the dock background is black) [11:24] did you run xfwm4 already and did it fix your problems? [11:25] Some fields can't be edited, alt-tab doesn't work and only one desktop (impossible to switch between desktops) [11:25] Well, I just did and it worked. [11:25] Thank you very much. [11:25] ok, that's known, but we don't know what causes it [11:26] usually a non-normal shutdown or something. [11:26] Ok, sorry for bothering you then [11:26] np [11:26] I did try to look for the answer with a search engine, I promise. [11:26] if you want to file bugs against xubuntu and are willing to use a non-LTS release, upgrade to 12.10 [11:26] (and soon, 13.04) [11:27] Should I change a value somewhere to prevent this from reoccuring on reboot? [11:27] as long as you save your session on logout (or haven't saved it before), you are fine [11:29] Good to know [11:30] Well, I sorta of like the idea of LTS even though some of the features I find very useful arrived in xfce only later (hence the ppa) [11:31] i can't promise anything, but the "interim" xubuntu releases have been pretty stable in the past as well [11:31] i've been using them from the beginning in my production machines, and i've been fine (some upgrades have been problematic, but recoverable) [11:33] In my (not so long) experience Xubuntu tends to be very reliable indeed. [12:13] Q: Is there a simple way to drop the titlebar from the window decorations in xfwm? Since I already know the hotkeys, I'd like to dispense with the titlebars if I can... [12:16] cadfael: you could probably make a custom theme [12:17] cadfael: xfce-terminal also has an option for that, but that's just for the terminal [12:21] Yes, a custom theme perhaps, or to switch out xfwm for a wm that supports titlebar toggle natively. It would surprise me if I was the first to ask this question. But googling around, I don't see a simpler answer. [12:22] cadfael: making themes is not that hard [12:22] cadfael: you can look at an existing one and try to modify it [12:23] Okay then, I will try that first. Surely it can't be that hard. Thank you. [12:24] cadfael try do to /etc/usr/share/themes/....currenttheme.../xfcwm/ and edit themerc file [12:24] *go to [12:24] make a copy... [12:38] Thanks again. [13:24] hello all [13:25] xubuntu234, greetings [13:25] anyone here know if it is good voyager 12.04? , I beseech answer [13:26] xubuntu234, umm ... english? [13:26] are from romania [13:27] xubuntu234: http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/voyager.html [13:27] xubuntu234: i would recommend xubuntu, voyager isnt that good [13:27] xubuntu234, voyager its not a recognized distribution [13:27] this is a good operating system? [13:28] xubuntu234, is good [13:28] xubuntu234: xubuntu > voyager [13:28] which is better? Xubuntu or voyager? [13:28] aha ok [13:29] xubuntu234, you are asking in #xubuntu, what answer do you expected [13:29] GridCube: the truth :> [13:29] 12.04 Voyager I installed the stick, and after installation, I recognized Grub [13:30] He installed a stick? :) [13:30] now [13:30] SonikkuAmerica, ESL ... pretty sure he meant he installed from a USB stick [13:30] Ah. [13:31] I installed the stick on a hard [13:31] Pardon my Murrica. [13:31] stick with the voyager 12.04 [13:32] xubuntu234: just install a plain Xubuntu 12.04 or 12.10 and you are good to go [13:33] Don't know much about Voyager, but I have corresponded with dedoimedo in the past... but yeah, why would I choose it over a French-language Xubuntu [13:33] sacre bleu! [13:34] Voi si je m'inquiète. [13:34] I love Xubuntu is a good operating system === daim2k5 is now known as daim2k5_Zzz [14:44] just installing funbuntu. is it good of hidding gay kiddy porn??? [14:45] nah am joking :) [14:45] !coc | Id_ [14:45] Id_: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct is a community etiquette document to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere | http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/conduct | For information on how to electronically sign the CoC, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SigningCodeofConduct | Watch http://static.screencasts.ubuntu.com/videos/2010/12/22/004-SigningCoC.ogv [14:46] not reading [14:46] cant :( [14:46] am a mong [14:46] well, respect the code of conduct please then, there are things that are not even jokes [14:47] The code of coduct has to earn my respect first! [14:48] not really [14:48] yeah. unless its not a bruv it dont get no respect nigga [14:50] am sorry i am off me head on jewish blood seeds. [14:51] Id_ Take it somewhere else. [14:51] where to? [14:51] Try #defocus or #politics [14:52] You will have more fun. I assure you. [14:52] ok thanks man. good bye people :) [14:52] * packetfrog waves [14:53] dont forget to /part #xubuntu and /join #somethingelse [15:38] hello, does xubuntu work well on older hardware? Got a old notebook with intel celeron 1300 MHz, 512 MB RAM. [15:39] xubuntu065: http://xubuntu.org/getxubuntu/ [15:39] look under Minimum system requirements [15:40] xubuntu065, lubuntu its recommended, or xubunt 12.04, sadly xubuntu aint recommended for old hardware anymmore [15:41] Tahnk u GridCube, can u recommend a ditstro? [15:41] xubuntu065: lubuntu is what GridCube just recommended.. though, you can try xubuntu live and see [15:42] puppy, slitaz, tinycore, dsl, slax, lubuntu, all should work xubuntu065 [15:42] thank u [15:43] lubuntu probably the fanciest one?? [15:43] largest of those [15:43] :> [15:43] its ubuntu based, so probably, though slitaz its pretty enough, and puppy its powerful enough, and tinycore its tiny enough, and dsl its too [15:44] xubuntu065: AFAIK, they all have a live mode, try them and see which fits your needs [15:44] imo pupy slitaz dsl all look oldfashiond [15:44] i tried them all already :) [15:45] xubuntu065: if you are looking for a distro for old-fashioned hardware.... [15:45] P: you will gotta live with that with old fashioned hardware xubuntu065,though you can always prettify [15:47] i want it all , fancy look, fast, little, good performance, great hw support. haha :) [15:48] bodhi linux, ubuntu based, E17 window manager [15:48] Have you tried enlightenment? It's extremely quick even with a lot of flashy effects [15:48] i liked slitaz, it looked nice for me [15:50] Haha, i actually supposed to joke and got new dsitros. This is nice. [15:50] Didnt try Lighwight nor bodhi [15:50] thx 4 recommending [15:51] xubuntu065: the hardware support is not a problem.. the memory you have and the celeron might be.. i used to run main ubuntu 10.04 with gnome2 on my celeron 900 with 1 gb of ram.. i would just try some things live and see.. peppermintOS is a nice LXDE implementation [15:51] The fastest OS is always one you have compiled from source naturally... so Gentoo might be worth checking out, though it will take more time to configure initially [15:53] Somehow I have the feeling this is a much more friendly community the suse :) [15:53] I'll give the lightweight a try [15:53] :) [15:54] xubuntu065, you can install xfce on puppy and use some fancy theme [15:55] also a very nice idea GridCube [16:15] Is there a way to find out CPU and graphics card and other temperatures in xubuntu [16:17] aiena There are dock apps for cpu/hdd/gpu if a remember right [16:17] you mean panel [16:17] aiena: lsusb, lspci or lshw [16:18] oh, sorry, did read that wrong [16:18] also apt-get hddtemp sensors-applet [16:18] !sensors [16:18] To access CPU temperature sensors and detect fan speeds, install the lm-sensors package. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto for installation and usage instructions. [16:18] Thank god for gridcube :) [16:18] hmm what aboutout gpu and mother board temperatures ? [16:19] thanks gridcube for this link though :) [16:20] aiena lm sensors does motherboard [16:20] aiena, all sensors informations is available trhough lmsensors [16:20] and gpu apparently :> [16:20] ok wow !! :) [16:20] you need to add some program that can use lm sensor though, like an applet for the panel, there are many [16:21] aiena: i use conky [16:22] I am a 3D hobbyist so I use my PC for rendering so it can get hot and it does get handy to monitor temperatures [16:22] holstein: will have a look [16:23] holstein: is conky a terminal app like alsamixer or it has a gui and integrates with the desktop ? [16:23] !info conky [16:23] conky (source: conky): highly configurable system monitor (transitional package). In component universe, is optional. Version 1.9.0-2 (quantal), package size 3 kB, installed size 42 kB [16:24] aiena Conky makes an overlay on your desktop outputting info for you [16:24] ^^ i use the overlay on the deskop [16:24] aiena images.google.com search Conky screenshot and you can see some crazy setups people have [16:25] packetfrog: I have a realtek card on my PC which gives awesome output on WIndowswhen I run ALSAmixer in terminal it list my card so I assume that linux is detecting it butI dont get that good quality sound [16:25] should I install the realtek driver on the website ? [16:26] !audio [16:26] If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !players and !mp3. [16:27] ^ [16:27] aiena: i would open a terminal and run "aplay -l" [16:27] if you see output there, then, i would move on to "alsamixer" and trust *none* of the labels.. then, to pavucontrol also trusting no labels [16:28] holstein: Built in analog input is listed but not my realtek device [16:28] but alsa mixer list the device [16:28] weird [16:28] aiena: trust *no* labels [16:29] the built in stereo sounds crap [16:29] aiena: built in analog device could be it [16:29] aiena: also, if you are using 2 devices, and you can disable one in the bios, one that you are never going to use anyway.. that can make life easier [16:30] hmm its a laptop so I guess the soundcard is integrated [16:30] aiena: you can check the bios and see if it can be disabled... [16:39] Hi. What's the simplest way to share wi-fi using wi-fi itself ? [16:39] I get internet from Wi-Fi, and I want to share it using the same wi-fi adapter. [16:39] I know it's possible under windows using "Connectify Hotspot" [16:39] Is there such a solution under xubuntu ? [16:41] Faris: http://askubuntu.com/questions/72989/how-to-share-my-wifi-internet-via-wifi [16:41] Faris, http://askubuntu.com/questions/1385/how-to-set-up-ubuntu-as-wireless-accesspoint [16:41] Thank you! [16:44] by the way, how do we call this kind of wi-fi sharing ? [16:44] ap mode [16:44] ap for access point ? [16:44] check ur adapter first [16:45] It already proved that it could do it under windows [16:45] there is 2 types , ad-hoc and ap [16:46] on ad-hoc u can use encrypt web, on ap mode u can do it wpa wpa2 etc [16:46] Faris: the windows driver support is irrelevant [16:47] is it normal that I may only share with wpa2 encryption ? [16:47] and that I cannot do it without encryption at all? [16:48] no is not, if u can do wpa2 u should be able to do wpa/wep aswell [17:04] Hi all. I need to know how set spanish language in Xubuntu [17:06] I instaled only spanish language and the OS is still in english! [17:06] xubuntu064, you need the language pack [17:07] xubuntu064: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1152032 [17:07] xubuntu064: http://xubuntublog.wordpress.com/2007/07/18/setting-languages/ [17:07] :) xubuntu064 you can also come join us in #ubuntu-es if you want to [17:07] Hey guys, I have a dual screen setup, and it seems that my VGA connected monitor is offset to the left and wrapped. Has anyone seen this before? [17:08] offset? [17:08] you mean like when you maximize a window it doesnt occupy the whole screen? [17:08] thank's for the link [17:09] GridCube: It does take the whole screen, but it's pushed to the left, and the stuff that should be off the screen is on the right. https://www.dropbox.com/s/vl1rqagc0e0nwbq/IMG_20130419_100000.jpg [17:09] That picture shows what it's doing [17:09] This is a fresh install with only a few packages installed [17:10] oh i see [17:11] weird, right? [17:11] cgardner, see if you dont have over "suposition?" of space using arandr [17:14] GridCube: how do I do that? [17:15] open arandr and see [17:15] with your eyes P: [17:17] It doesn't look weird, and I moved the screens around a bit to see if it made any differences. It didn't [17:21] try changing they orders [17:21] like one on top of the other or its sides [17:21] see if that changes something [17:22] restart xfwm4 with xfwm4 --replace and then restart the panels using xfce4-panel --restart [17:24] neither worked [17:25] change the monitor resolutions using arandr? [17:25] not using arandr, but I did change the resolutions [17:30] cgardner, it is not the "officially supported" method, but I installed xfce 4.12 to deal with my dual monitor setup and it has been completely fine for me [17:30] I did this: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/11/how-to-use-multiple-monitors-in-xubuntu.html [17:31] Cheri703: I tried that yesterday, but I had the same problem. I re-installed this morning thinking that that was the problem... Turns out that I was wrong. [17:31] :( [17:31] OHHHH [17:31] I know what you're talking about [17:32] where when you boot up your mouse goes on to the other screen, right? [17:32] boot without the vga monitor connected, then plug it in after. it'll work fine [17:32] it's super duper annoying [17:32] what video card do you have? [17:32] that happens with mine if I use a vga and a non-vga [17:33] OR install amd catalyst (if it's an amd card) (though to be fair, this one only worked when I used regular ubuntu, I had hiccups with xubuntu) and you can set it up in there and it's happier [18:00] Hello all, I am looking to get involved with a linux community if someone could point me in the right directions that would be much appreciated [18:01] techno__, :) please join #xubuntu-devel [18:01] thank you [18:13] dear xubuntu helpers [18:13] the printer is holding a work on hold and i dont know why [18:14] I have cancelled it several times, after waiting for 5 minutes only to see that it didnt do anything [18:15] Cheri703, P: this might be your area of expertise [18:16] I'd suggest rebooting both printer and computer and trying it again [18:17] nantou This is the ubuntu printer troubleshooting page, for reference: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingPrintingProblems === daim2k5_Zzz is now known as daim2k5 [20:24] another successful install :) [20:25] quick question - what is the best way to get vpn set up against a checkpoint fw? [20:26] anyone had success with that? [20:28] i spend a few hours with snx and various vpnc kvpn etc configs but none worked, hoping xubuntu is a bit better === daim2k5 is now known as daim2k5_Zzz === daim2k5_Zzz is now known as daim2k5 === daim2k5 is now known as daim2k5_Zzz [23:38] Q: In thunar, I often use the ctrl-S hotkey to find useful files with "Select by Pattern". It's a great feature, but it would be even better if it was case-insensitive. Didnt see anything in thunarrc about this. Does anyone know howto fix this plz? [23:39] Sorry I do no not. Im just a user like you though. [23:40] You should be able to use Regex [23:41] something like [gG][a-bA-B].* [23:45] Of course, and yes I know to do regex. But writing regular expressions isn't the fastest way to search. Ctrl-S is already super-useful, case-insensitive would just make it a little quicker. [23:46] Anyhow, if case-insensitive isnt avail, then I will have to make do. Maybe lodge a feature request somewhere.