[01:54] <subman> I assume that installing/running lubuntu under ubuntu installed with sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop is the same as running it by installing just it alone
[01:57] <Unit193> Not quite, you'll have all the gnome/unity leftovers/daemons.  Not even !purelubuntu is *quite* the same.
[01:57] <Unit193> !purelubuntu
[01:59] <subman> Unit193, I understand but is the performance/experience about the same?  I'm just testing 13.04 and was wondering if reporting anything I find is worth it.
[01:59] <subman> Problems I might encounter could be due to my method of installation/running.
[02:00] <subman> So far it seems to run much lighter and faster than xubuntu/xfce
[02:02] <Unit193> Xubuntu leans towards lightweight at times, but considers itself midweight.
[02:03] <subman> It seems that way for sure.  This is noticeably  faster and lighter.  Memory requirements are much less, cpu usage is very low.
[02:04] <subman> The clock defaulting to 24 hour format is a pita for me personally.
[02:12] <subman> firefox seems to be the major resource hog no matter what flavour of Ubuntu I run!
[02:15] <Unit193> You can always try xxxterm/xombrero.
[02:22] <subman> chromium seems light enough so far.
[02:24] <subman> I've never hear of xombrero until now.  I just might have to try that!
[02:24] <subman> Thanks
[02:26] <phillw> subman: there is a 'test' version of xombrero available via the dev area.
[02:27] <subman> 'dev area'?
[02:28] <phillw> subman: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-dev/+archive/non-official-apps
[02:29] <phillw> it is an area where the devs 'try' things out.
[02:35] <subman> phillw, trying it right now!  Thanks.
[02:35] <subman> Chromium is light though.  What makes FF so heavy?
[02:35] <Unit193> FF is actually ligher for me. >_>
[02:36] <subman> Unit193, maybe it is the pages I'm on.  Like google+
[02:36] <phillw> subman: the new FF is better (Don't quote me).
[02:37] <subman> I think I'm at version 20?
[02:37] <Unit193> That could be part of it, I'm at version 22.
[02:37] <subman> Ah.....Not in 13.04?
[02:38] <phillw> subman: lubuntu 13,04 will launch with chromium
[02:38] <phillw> as default
[02:39] <Unit193> I'm on 12.10.  It's been better for my usecase anyway for a bit.
[02:40] <subman> It looks like Chromium beats xombrero in both 'lightness' and speed.
[02:40] <Unit193> 0_o  You have one weird, weird system. :P
[02:40] <subman> Standard netbook
[02:40] <subman> Watching with htop
[02:42] <Unit193> Are you including all of chromium's processes?
[02:42] <subman> Right now I'm looking at overall load
[02:43] <phillw> subman: if you have xombrero using more resources than a a normal browser, you have a real problem...
[02:44] <subman> xombrero uses around 20% of my cpu and 42% of memory.
[02:44] <subman> I'll now check chromium.  Exact numbers should not matter as this is comparative
[02:44] <subman> my load with xombrero is .57
[02:47] <subman> Chromium takes 17% of memory and 6% of cpu.  load is .32
[02:48] <subman> Same pages loaded
[02:48] <phillw> subman: as we are discussing possible stuff, as opposed to actual; can you please move to lubuntu-offtopic
[02:49] <subman> phillw, done.
[11:34] <linuxdumb> I have installed lubuntu 12.04, if I choose to install all the updates from update manager will that upgrade my version of Lubuntu to the latest version which I think is 12.10, or do the updates not chance what release you have installed?
[14:21] <Wendigo> Would Lubuntu run well on a IBM Thinkpad R51, Pentium M 1.6GHz, 768MB of RAM, 40GB of HD, ATI Mobility Radeon 9000?
[14:29] <miksd> does that cpu have PAE support?
[14:31] <miksd> i had some older laptop ith pentium m cpu and it did not have PAE support and therefore was not able to run newer versions of ubuntu because newer ubuntu kernels does not have non-pae cpu support
[16:22] <mikeconcepts> sh: 1: inxi: not found
[20:03] <pinportal> hello, can I install Lubuntu on a tablet with CPU WM8650 ?
[20:22] <phillw> pinportal: what size is the hard drive?
[20:23] <pinportal> 1GB
[20:24] <phillw> pinportal: none of the ubuntu family will install with just 1GB
[20:24] <phillw> it's an ARM processor?
[20:24] <pinportal> yes...
[20:25] <phillw> lubuntu only have an image for the ac100
[20:25] <pinportal> http://www.wondermedia.com.tw/en/products/platform/soc/wm8650/
[20:26] <pinportal> this is my tablet CPU
[20:26] <pinportal> 600Mhz ARM926EJ-S processor
[20:27] <phillw> pinportal: have a read of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARMTeam that has details of where to ask.
[20:28] <pinportal> because
[20:28] <pinportal> I installed on there
[20:28] <pinportal> a android 2.2
[20:28] <pinportal> but It is slow on my tablet
[20:28] <pinportal> so I wanna try Lubuntu
[20:28] <pinportal> :)
[20:29] <phillw> I know there is a lubuntu arm distro that runs with 512Mb. But the ARM team are the best people to ask :)
[20:29] <phillw> they welcome new people :)
[20:30] <pinportal> oh ...
[20:30] <pinportal> thanks :D
[20:30] <pinportal> beucase
[20:30] <pinportal> bacause*
[20:30] <pinportal> because I know that Ubuntu for tablet
[20:30] <pinportal> will be very heavy
[20:31] <pinportal> so will need a good CPU :(
[20:31] <pinportal> maybe FirefoxOS could help me
[20:32] <phillw> pinportal: that is why I suggest asking them. I have no idea if the ac100 iso would run on your system. They will be able to help you. Their channel is #ubuntu-arm
[20:34] <pinportal> ok thanks )
[20:34] <pinportal> :D
[20:34] <pinportal> I will try it, bye
[20:35] <phillw> I've also joined the channel
[21:27] <n-iCe> hi
[23:36] <linuxdummy> I want to edit a .cfg file using leafpad but when I goto save it I get "can't open file to write" error
[23:56] <linuxdummy> I got my answer, gksudo leafpad