slangasekLaney: hi, do you know how /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libproxy/0.4.7/pxgsettings gets launched?  I happened to be looking at my process list and found 13 instances of this thing running... and the package doesn't seem to ship any dbus service definition?00:12
cjwatsonI have three of them, which 'ps xf' show to be descended from unity-scope-video-remote, unity-shopping-daemon, and unity-lens-photos00:17
cjwatsonalso paired "sh -c" processes indicating that the parent processes are lazily using some equivalent of system() rather than a direct execve00:17
cjwatsonbut I guess that's some library interpreting a configuration file or similar ...00:18
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stokachujust to verify, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases should quantal be EOL April 2013 and not 201401:47
slangasekcjwatson: ah right, I overlooked that ~half the processes were actually sh -c.... but in my case, ps f doesn't show any parents for them, they've apparently been left behind :-P01:47
slangasekstokachu: it should not01:48
slangasekstokachu: 12.10 + 18mo -> Apr 201401:48
stokachuoh then raring is off right?01:48
stokachuor will that change when its made stable01:49
slangasekstokachu: raring will AIUI be supported until Jan 201404:55
stokachuslangasek: ah b/c of rolling release i assume?04:55
slangasekwell, because of the discussion about shortening the support cycle04:56
slangasekwe aren't actually having a rolling release :)04:56
stokachu:P sounds good to me04:56
stokachui should probably catch up on my emails in the non fire group04:57
tjaaltonslangasek: does the plymouth mp look good? :)05:03
tjaaltonoh bah05:05
tjaaltonwrong version number, took the ppa upload as-is05:06
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smartboyhwkirkland, roaksoax ping. I'm having problems adding a flavour to Testdrive code.10:21
smartboyhw^ please ignore, I think I found the problem.10:33
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dokojtaylor, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/test-rebuild-20130329/+build/4440877 numpy related?13:23
purezenHey guys..!! I wanted to know if the updates enabling Hardware Video Acceleration via UVD on ATI Radeon HD 4000 through MESA have arrived on Ubuntu 12.10 x64 yet..?14:56
jtaylordoko: numpy related but probably not 1.7.0 -> 1.7.1 related, the headers have not changed14:59
jtaylorI'll have a look15:01
jtaylordoko: pytiff sets NPY_NO_DEPRECATED_API but does not set the api version15:07
jtaylorthough there is probably an additional inconsistency in numpy I'll check with upstream15:16
jtaylorno numpy is fine, just pytiff doing wrong stuff15:24
jtaylordoko: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5724729/ should fix it15:25
jtaylorit uses 1.6 API so it can'T disable deprecated api15:25
jtaylorspecifically PyArray_CORDER instead of NPY_CORDER15:25
dokojtaylor, can you upload?15:29
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slangasekbdmurray: is bug #1036081 something we've seen before?  Users are trying to install the 'sysvutils' binary package on 12.04, when that package was last available in lucid16:35
ubottubug 1036081 in sysvinit (Ubuntu) "package sysvutils (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite '/usr/share/man/man1/mesg.1.gz', which is also in package sysvinit-utils 2.88dsf-13.10ubuntu11.1" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/103608116:35
nonickname2could someone with casper or plymouth knowledge maybe look at bug #1170421 and/or is this bug something for the release notes? only tested on/with kubuntu though, so maybe someone could try to reproduce it on another *buntu (taking the testing results in the bug report into account)?17:10
ubottubug 1170421 in plymouth (Ubuntu) "Live session shutdown "hangs" (not showing "Please remove media ..." message)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/117042117:10
slangasekbdmurray: ok, having looked closer I see that this is an issue we've discussed before; but I don't know if there was a master bug for it somewhere?17:23
sreichi've got uhm..a bit of a concern with clang 3.217:41
sreichas in, there's a 100% of the time crash on anything that uses C++11's std::thread with 3.2, from what i can tell.17:41
sreichthe bug is here http://llvm.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=1273017:41
ubottullvm.org bug 12730 in C++11 "libstdc++ std::thread, when compiled with clang, "pure virtual method called"" [Normal,Resolved: fixed]17:41
sreichthey fixed it in r178816 (a couple weeks ago)17:42
sreichthing is i don't think llvm itself backports fixes..is it possible for ubuntu to squeeze that in?17:42
sreichbecause that's a pretty serious bug imho17:42
sreichor should i be contacting llvm to have them backport it (maybe i am wrong and they do push bugfix releases?)17:42
jtaylorsraue: depending on the invasivness of the fix we can fix it for raring17:51
jtaylorsreich: ^17:51
jtaylorthough probably via an stable release update at this stage17:51
jtaylorsreich: forwarding it to debian would also help, llvm is maintained there17:52
jtaylorclang 3.0 is not affected?17:53
sreichno idea17:53
sreichdon't think 3.0 even had std::thread support17:53
jtaylorprobably not I'll try17:53
sreichbut to check you can just run the source file there17:53
jtaylorhm it doesn'T compile unless you remove a static assert and then it crashes :/17:55
sreichyeah it's a bit on the edge i guess http://clang.llvm.org/cxx_status.html17:56
sreichcould be 3.1..or 3.2, don't really know17:56
jtaylorthe fix looks quite simple18:00
jtaylorbit I'd like the debian maintainers opinion on it first18:00
sreichjtaylor: where can i get them?18:05
sreichis there a #debian-devel  ?18:05
bdmurrayslangasek: bug 100190418:05
ubottubug 1001904 in sysvinit (Ubuntu Precise) "package sysvutils (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite '/usr/share/man/man1/mesg.1.gz', which is also in package sysvinit-utils 2.88dsf-13.10ubuntu11" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/100190418:05
jtaylorsreich: by filing a bug18:05
jtaylorsreich: debian experimental has pretty much the same clang version18:05
jtaylorsreich: you can use reportbug -B debian clang18:06
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sreichwow, reporting a debian bug on a non-debian system is fun18:27
sreichthey use emails to create bug reports. like..seriously?18:28
sreichwhat is this, 1980?18:28
jtaylorI think its great18:30
jtaylorthe debian bug tracking system is the best I yet encountered18:30
sreichwhy? to report a bug..you need to send an email?18:31
jtayloreverybody has email18:31
sreicheverybody has bugzilla18:31
jtayloryou usually need to register for that18:31
jtaylorwhich requires email18:31
jtaylorbts just skips this step18:32
sreichyeah, but it's got a sane interface18:32
sreichemail is error prone18:32
sreichand as mentioned, reportbug isn't on non-debian systems18:32
jtaylorreportbug is just for convinience18:34
sreichyeah, which you don't get on non-debian systems apparently ;)18:34
jtaylorI usually just write an email with, Package: ... VErsion: .. bugtext18:34
sreichhence my point about not using a bug management system seems silly18:34
sreichi could understand having both, but just one?18:34
jtaylorit is occasionally discussed to add a webinterface18:35
jtaylorits usually rejected because its to easy to use :)18:35
jtaylor"if someone is not able to write an email, the bug report will not be useful anyway"18:36
mlankhorstbut what if its a bug about thunderbird? ;)18:39
dtchenis there another archive rebuild test running? I just attempted to reload a build log from the 0329 test, and it had disappeared. :)18:47
jtaylorwhich package?18:47
dtchenmysql-workbench, amd6418:47
sreichjtaylor: not finding clang 3.2 in debian at all18:48
jtaylordtchen: strange, the i386 log is still there though18:49
dtchensreich: looks like it's in experimental18:49
sreichwhere can i view experimental?18:49
dtchenjtaylor: yeah, I ended up using that one as a starting point. Thanks.18:49
jtaylorsreich: the package trackign system has all information: http://packages.qa.debian.org/c/clang.html18:50
xnoxAnyone have any pointers as to where is the code that generates https://patches.ubuntu.com ?19:16
slangasekbdmurray: right, thanks20:40
cjwatsonxnox: lp:merge-o-matic21:51
xnoxcjwatson: ok, didn't know it's the same =)21:55
stgraberchvt 722:05
stgraberchvt 822:06
stgraber0~0~/valogXcd ..22:06
stgrabercd ..22:06
stgrabercd vanhoof Logan_22:06
stgrabercat xnox 0 | less22:06
xnoxstgraber: ?????22:07
stgrabersudo -i22:07
stgraberps fauxww22:07
xnox"Ctrl-Alt-t" | stgraber22:07
stgrabercat /var/log/upstart/li22:07
stgraberrestart lightdm22:08
xnoxI take it stgraber is trying to recover his machine blind =)22:08
ogra_lol, yeah, good guess22:09
xnoxogra_: let's just wait for the sudo password =)22:09
ogra_he obviously uses ubuntu/ubuntu :)22:09
xnoxogra_: ha, true.22:09
Logan_this is quite amusing22:10
stgraberoops ;)22:10
Logan_btw, you need a stronger password22:10
xnoxstgraber: or is it focus-failing-to-follow-eyesight-error ?22:11
stgraberxnox: nope, I'm reinstalling my laptop, running a bare Ubuntu server on it and running Ubuntu desktop inside an LXC container22:11
stgraberI was at the setting up input devices step ;)22:11
ogra_it worked !22:11
stgraberwhich apparently ended up working a bit too well as the X server running in a non-focused VT was still getting the keyboard input (apparently)22:12
stgraberlooks like a reboot fixed it though ;)22:12
xnoxstgraber: i can get a mouse pointer working on a VT sometimes......22:13
* xnox praises Intel graphics22:13
xnoxlike a tty1 that is.22:13
stgraberxnox: yeah, I had that and it's when that happens that you can get in the situation where what you type in tty1 ends up in both the tty and in your focused X window (in my case, irssi)22:13
stgraberanyway, sorry for the spam, it hopefully won't happen again (will try to keep something else focused when doing my tests ;))22:15

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