| slangasek | Laney: hi, do you know how /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libproxy/0.4.7/pxgsettings gets launched? I happened to be looking at my process list and found 13 instances of this thing running... and the package doesn't seem to ship any dbus service definition? | 00:12 |
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| cjwatson | I have three of them, which 'ps xf' show to be descended from unity-scope-video-remote, unity-shopping-daemon, and unity-lens-photos | 00:17 |
| cjwatson | also paired "sh -c" processes indicating that the parent processes are lazily using some equivalent of system() rather than a direct execve | 00:17 |
| cjwatson | but I guess that's some library interpreting a configuration file or similar ... | 00:18 |
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| stokachu | just to verify, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases should quantal be EOL April 2013 and not 2014 | 01:47 |
| slangasek | cjwatson: ah right, I overlooked that ~half the processes were actually sh -c.... but in my case, ps f doesn't show any parents for them, they've apparently been left behind :-P | 01:47 |
| slangasek | stokachu: it should not | 01:48 |
| slangasek | stokachu: 12.10 + 18mo -> Apr 2014 | 01:48 |
| stokachu | oh then raring is off right? | 01:48 |
| stokachu | or will that change when its made stable | 01:49 |
| slangasek | stokachu: raring will AIUI be supported until Jan 2014 | 04:55 |
| stokachu | slangasek: ah b/c of rolling release i assume? | 04:55 |
| slangasek | well, because of the discussion about shortening the support cycle | 04:56 |
| slangasek | we aren't actually having a rolling release :) | 04:56 |
| stokachu | :P sounds good to me | 04:56 |
| stokachu | i should probably catch up on my emails in the non fire group | 04:57 |
| tjaalton | slangasek: does the plymouth mp look good? :) | 05:03 |
| tjaalton | oh bah | 05:05 |
| tjaalton | wrong version number, took the ppa upload as-is | 05:06 |
| tjaalton | fixed | 05:08 |
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| smartboyhw | kirkland, roaksoax ping. I'm having problems adding a flavour to Testdrive code. | 10:21 |
| smartboyhw | ^ please ignore, I think I found the problem. | 10:33 |
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| doko | jtaylor, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/test-rebuild-20130329/+build/4440877 numpy related? | 13:23 |
| purezen | Hey guys..!! I wanted to know if the updates enabling Hardware Video Acceleration via UVD on ATI Radeon HD 4000 through MESA have arrived on Ubuntu 12.10 x64 yet..? | 14:56 |
| jtaylor | doko: numpy related but probably not 1.7.0 -> 1.7.1 related, the headers have not changed | 14:59 |
| jtaylor | I'll have a look | 15:01 |
| jtaylor | doko: pytiff sets NPY_NO_DEPRECATED_API but does not set the api version | 15:07 |
| jtaylor | though there is probably an additional inconsistency in numpy I'll check with upstream | 15:16 |
| jtaylor | no numpy is fine, just pytiff doing wrong stuff | 15:24 |
| jtaylor | doko: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5724729/ should fix it | 15:25 |
| jtaylor | it uses 1.6 API so it can'T disable deprecated api | 15:25 |
| jtaylor | specifically PyArray_CORDER instead of NPY_CORDER | 15:25 |
| doko | jtaylor, can you upload? | 15:29 |
| jtaylor | yes | 15:30 |
| jtaylor | done | 15:47 |
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| slangasek | bdmurray: is bug #1036081 something we've seen before? Users are trying to install the 'sysvutils' binary package on 12.04, when that package was last available in lucid | 16:35 |
| ubottu | bug 1036081 in sysvinit (Ubuntu) "package sysvutils (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite '/usr/share/man/man1/mesg.1.gz', which is also in package sysvinit-utils 2.88dsf-13.10ubuntu11.1" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1036081 | 16:35 |
| nonickname2 | could someone with casper or plymouth knowledge maybe look at bug #1170421 and/or is this bug something for the release notes? only tested on/with kubuntu though, so maybe someone could try to reproduce it on another *buntu (taking the testing results in the bug report into account)? | 17:10 |
| ubottu | bug 1170421 in plymouth (Ubuntu) "Live session shutdown "hangs" (not showing "Please remove media ..." message)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1170421 | 17:10 |
| slangasek | bdmurray: ok, having looked closer I see that this is an issue we've discussed before; but I don't know if there was a master bug for it somewhere? | 17:23 |
| sreich | i've got uhm..a bit of a concern with clang 3.2 | 17:41 |
| sreich | as in, there's a 100% of the time crash on anything that uses C++11's std::thread with 3.2, from what i can tell. | 17:41 |
| sreich | the bug is here http://llvm.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=12730 | 17:41 |
| ubottu | llvm.org bug 12730 in C++11 "libstdc++ std::thread, when compiled with clang, "pure virtual method called"" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] | 17:41 |
| sreich | they fixed it in r178816 (a couple weeks ago) | 17:42 |
| sreich | thing is i don't think llvm itself backports fixes..is it possible for ubuntu to squeeze that in? | 17:42 |
| sreich | because that's a pretty serious bug imho | 17:42 |
| sreich | or should i be contacting llvm to have them backport it (maybe i am wrong and they do push bugfix releases?) | 17:42 |
| jtaylor | sraue: depending on the invasivness of the fix we can fix it for raring | 17:51 |
| jtaylor | sreich: ^ | 17:51 |
| jtaylor | though probably via an stable release update at this stage | 17:51 |
| jtaylor | sreich: forwarding it to debian would also help, llvm is maintained there | 17:52 |
| sreich | ok | 17:52 |
| jtaylor | clang 3.0 is not affected? | 17:53 |
| sreich | no idea | 17:53 |
| sreich | don't think 3.0 even had std::thread support | 17:53 |
| jtaylor | probably not I'll try | 17:53 |
| sreich | but to check you can just run the source file there | 17:53 |
| jtaylor | hm it doesn'T compile unless you remove a static assert and then it crashes :/ | 17:55 |
| sreich | yeah it's a bit on the edge i guess http://clang.llvm.org/cxx_status.html | 17:56 |
| sreich | could be 3.1..or 3.2, don't really know | 17:56 |
| jtaylor | the fix looks quite simple | 18:00 |
| jtaylor | bit I'd like the debian maintainers opinion on it first | 18:00 |
| sreich | jtaylor: where can i get them? | 18:05 |
| sreich | is there a #debian-devel ? | 18:05 |
| bdmurray | slangasek: bug 1001904 | 18:05 |
| ubottu | bug 1001904 in sysvinit (Ubuntu Precise) "package sysvutils (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite '/usr/share/man/man1/mesg.1.gz', which is also in package sysvinit-utils 2.88dsf-13.10ubuntu11" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1001904 | 18:05 |
| jtaylor | sreich: by filing a bug | 18:05 |
| sreich | k | 18:05 |
| jtaylor | sreich: debian experimental has pretty much the same clang version | 18:05 |
| jtaylor | sreich: you can use reportbug -B debian clang | 18:06 |
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| sreich | wow, reporting a debian bug on a non-debian system is fun | 18:27 |
| sreich | they use emails to create bug reports. like..seriously? | 18:28 |
| sreich | what is this, 1980? | 18:28 |
| jtaylor | I think its great | 18:30 |
| jtaylor | the debian bug tracking system is the best I yet encountered | 18:30 |
| sreich | seriously? | 18:30 |
| sreich | why? to report a bug..you need to send an email? | 18:31 |
| jtaylor | everybody has email | 18:31 |
| sreich | everybody has bugzilla | 18:31 |
| jtaylor | you usually need to register for that | 18:31 |
| jtaylor | which requires email | 18:31 |
| jtaylor | bts just skips this step | 18:32 |
| sreich | yeah, but it's got a sane interface | 18:32 |
| sreich | email is error prone | 18:32 |
| sreich | and as mentioned, reportbug isn't on non-debian systems | 18:32 |
| jtaylor | reportbug is just for convinience | 18:34 |
| sreich | yeah, which you don't get on non-debian systems apparently ;) | 18:34 |
| jtaylor | I usually just write an email with, Package: ... VErsion: .. bugtext | 18:34 |
| sreich | hence my point about not using a bug management system seems silly | 18:34 |
| sreich | i could understand having both, but just one? | 18:34 |
| jtaylor | it is occasionally discussed to add a webinterface | 18:35 |
| jtaylor | its usually rejected because its to easy to use :) | 18:35 |
| sreich | heh | 18:36 |
| jtaylor | "if someone is not able to write an email, the bug report will not be useful anyway" | 18:36 |
| mlankhorst | but what if its a bug about thunderbird? ;) | 18:39 |
| dtchen | is there another archive rebuild test running? I just attempted to reload a build log from the 0329 test, and it had disappeared. :) | 18:47 |
| jtaylor | which package? | 18:47 |
| dtchen | mysql-workbench, amd64 | 18:47 |
| sreich | jtaylor: not finding clang 3.2 in debian at all | 18:48 |
| sreich | http://packages.debian.org/unstable/devel/ | 18:48 |
| jtaylor | dtchen: strange, the i386 log is still there though | 18:49 |
| dtchen | sreich: looks like it's in experimental | 18:49 |
| sreich | where can i view experimental? | 18:49 |
| dtchen | jtaylor: yeah, I ended up using that one as a starting point. Thanks. | 18:49 |
| jtaylor | sreich: the package trackign system has all information: http://packages.qa.debian.org/c/clang.html | 18:50 |
| xnox | Anyone have any pointers as to where is the code that generates https://patches.ubuntu.com ? | 19:16 |
| slangasek | bdmurray: right, thanks | 20:40 |
| cjwatson | xnox: lp:merge-o-matic | 21:51 |
| xnox | cjwatson: ok, didn't know it's the same =) | 21:55 |
| stgraber | fauxww | 22:05 |
| stgraber | chvt 7 | 22:05 |
| stgraber | chvt 8 | 22:06 |
| stgraber | 0~0~/valogXcd .. | 22:06 |
| stgraber | cd .. | 22:06 |
| stgraber | cd vanhoof Logan_ | 22:06 |
| stgraber | ls | 22:06 |
| stgraber | cat xnox 0 | less | 22:06 |
| xnox | stgraber: ????? | 22:07 |
| stgraber | qconso | 22:07 |
| stgraber | ubuntu | 22:07 |
| stgraber | ubuntu | 22:07 |
| stgraber | sudo -i | 22:07 |
| stgraber | ubuntu | 22:07 |
| stgraber | ps fauxww | 22:07 |
| xnox | "Ctrl-Alt-t" | stgraber | 22:07 |
| stgraber | cat /var/log/upstart/li | 22:07 |
| stgraber | restart lightdm | 22:08 |
| xnox | I take it stgraber is trying to recover his machine blind =) | 22:08 |
| ogra_ | lol, yeah, good guess | 22:09 |
| xnox | ogra_: let's just wait for the sudo password =) | 22:09 |
| ogra_ | he obviously uses ubuntu/ubuntu :) | 22:09 |
| xnox | ogra_: ha, true. | 22:09 |
| Logan_ | hahaha | 22:10 |
| Logan_ | this is quite amusing | 22:10 |
| stgraber | oops ;) | 22:10 |
| Logan_ | btw, you need a stronger password | 22:10 |
| xnox | stgraber: or is it focus-failing-to-follow-eyesight-error ? | 22:11 |
| stgraber | xnox: nope, I'm reinstalling my laptop, running a bare Ubuntu server on it and running Ubuntu desktop inside an LXC container | 22:11 |
| stgraber | I was at the setting up input devices step ;) | 22:11 |
| ogra_ | it worked ! | 22:11 |
| ogra_ | :) | 22:11 |
| stgraber | which apparently ended up working a bit too well as the X server running in a non-focused VT was still getting the keyboard input (apparently) | 22:12 |
| stgraber | looks like a reboot fixed it though ;) | 22:12 |
| xnox | stgraber: i can get a mouse pointer working on a VT sometimes...... | 22:13 |
| * xnox praises Intel graphics | 22:13 | |
| xnox | like a tty1 that is. | 22:13 |
| stgraber | xnox: yeah, I had that and it's when that happens that you can get in the situation where what you type in tty1 ends up in both the tty and in your focused X window (in my case, irssi) | 22:13 |
| stgraber | anyway, sorry for the spam, it hopefully won't happen again (will try to keep something else focused when doing my tests ;)) | 22:15 |
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