[00:40] <snap-l> Evening
[01:50] <rick_h_> evening
[01:56] <jjesse> evening rick_h_
[01:58] <rick_h_> everyone partying hard?
[01:59] <jjesse> lol
[01:59] <jjesse> friday night is not a party night as we are usually up early to go for a run
[01:59] <jjesse> wife is in bed already
[02:01] <rick_h_> hah, we managed to score a baby-sitter so we had a dinner out. celebrate work calming back down a bit
[02:01] <jjesse> awesome
[02:01] <jjesse> we did dinner out as well tonight (celebrate pay day :) )
[02:01] <rick_h_> woot
[02:07] <jjesse> hailing again outside
[02:07] <jjesse> and driving rain
[02:07] <jjesse> mother nature is drunk
[02:09] <rick_h_> yea, kind of bummed. Was hoping for some nice weekend weather to get the bike out now that work has calmed down
[02:09] <jjesse> must be nice to have work calm down
[02:10] <jjesse> its gotten crazier for me
[02:10] <rick_h_> well 13.04 is next week and now we've got a couple of weeks vs days.
[02:10] <jjesse> ah
[02:10] <rick_h_> until we start the next batch. Then it's the race to get it all for 13.10
[02:11] <rick_h_> http://uistage.jujucharms.com:8080/bws/sidebar/precise/apache2-6/ almost looks like something :)
[02:12] <jjesse> is this what you've been doing
[02:12] <rick_h_> yea
[02:12] <jjesse> its pretty sweet looking
[02:13] <rick_h_> yea, a week ago it didn't look so sweet, at least now it's getting close enough to show/walk through.
[02:13] <jjesse> nice
[02:13] <rick_h_> with just a bunch of bugs/missing bits that still need to be added
[02:14] <rick_h_> funny when you reach a point where things start to work you can just sit there hitting the buttons back/forth :)
[02:14] <jjesse> nice
[03:24] <snap-l> df
[15:37] <snap-l> Good morning
[15:37] <snap-l> Installing Windows 7 into a virtual machine.
[15:37] <snap-l> yippee. :)
[15:37] <snap-l> Actually, Windows 7 install is not that bad
[15:38] <snap-l> They really cleaned up things from XP
[15:38] <snap-l> Of course there's a few maddening things in there as well, but overall not bad.
[15:47] <jjesse> windows 7 is good
[15:47] <jjesse> but that's because vista was bad :P
[16:07] <rick_h_> Blazeix: ping, do you have notes/docs on how you were setting up your redis/sql data models?
[16:07] <rick_h_> snap-l: yea, what I did with my wife. Pretty happy with it
[16:08] <Blazeix> rick_h_: no real docs, though this presentation was super-helpful: http://nosql.mypopescu.com/post/34748264438/modeling-a-simple-social-app-using-sql-and-redis
[16:09] <rick_h_> Blazeix: cool, going through the redis cookbook and tempted to start poking at some things.
[16:15] <brousch> snap-l: The maddening part is after install when you have to download hundreds of updates and reboot 10 times
[16:15] <brousch> Blazeix: Do you want a free ticket to mobidevday detroit?
[16:20] <Blazeix> brousch: thanks for the offer, but i already have one :)
[16:22] <Blazeix> how'd you end up with an extra, are you not able to make it?
[17:01] <snap-l> brousch: This is SP1, so not too bad on that front
[17:16] <brousch> Blazeix: they are giving speakers a free ticket
[17:33] <snap-l> So I just received my new Google Chromebook Pixel. Now what??
[17:33] <snap-l> I refuse to further increase my dependence on Google by running Chrome OS.
[17:33] <snap-l> ^- Quote from this post: https://plus.google.com/108313527900507320366/posts/G3MxjUv2zFj
[17:36] <brousch> I think ChromeOS is lock-in than Android
[17:36] <brousch> You're using webapps, which you could control
[17:36] <brousch> Google pisses you off? go run Linux/Windows/OSX and you still have all the same webapps
[17:37] <brousch> ChromeOS is LESS locki-in
[17:38] <brousch> With Android many of your apps only run on Android
[17:48] <snap-l> My point is why buy a Pixel if you're not happy with Google.
[18:33] <brousch> snap-l: Supposedly the screen is the bizomb
[18:34] <brousch> 3:2  2,560x1,700  12.8"
[18:35] <brousch> And it's a touchscreen, which some people like
[18:40] <brousch> They evacuated the 2nd tallest building in GR due to flooded basement and generator fire
[19:33] <rick_h_>  ok, coffee shop test #2. Good 4g connection here +1. Farthest one from my house -1
[19:35] <rick_h_> coffee is served in a big milkshake mug...hmmm...
[19:36] <rick_h_> and servied with a spoon and a straw
[19:52] <rick_h_> Blazeix: you sure you don't want to work in some python? :)
[19:58] <brousch> rick_h_: That's not coffee, that's a dessert
[19:59] <rick_h_> brousch: yea, I'm confused for sure
[19:59] <Blazeix> i'm not certain, but it sounds like you may have accidentally ordered a milkshake.
[20:00] <Blazeix> i'll write python, but i demand we use django's orm.
[20:00] <rick_h_> Blazeix: lol
[20:00] <rick_h_> Blazeix: https://trello.com/board/bookieio/5172f2ebf2e69b95770022fa
[20:00] <rick_h_> there goes my next 3 years :)
[20:01] <Blazeix> haha
[20:01] <Blazeix> rick_h_: did you see this? http://www.commafeed.com/welcome
[20:01] <Blazeix> straight up java, so yuck, but might still be interesting
[20:02] <rick_h_> Blazeix: no, hadn't seen it
[20:02] <rick_h_> *sigh* screenshots or sample UX or bust people
[20:02] <Blazeix> "Add an application, select JBoss Enterprise Application Platform 6.0" /runs away
[20:03] <Blazeix> rick_h_: credentials are demo/demo
[20:04] <rick_h_> hmm, UX issues. feed items only show after I moues over them.
[20:04] <rick_h_> not bad though after that
[20:13] <rick_h_> hmmm, python3 chance.
[20:56] <brousch> rick_h_: What is 3 years?
[20:58] <rick_h_> brousch: well bookie was 3yrs worth of work really
[20:58] <rick_h_> brousch: so figure here goes my coding spare time for another 3
[20:58] <rick_h_> brousch: have you done virtualenvs in py3?
[20:58] <brousch> yes
[20:59] <rick_h_> brousch: how did you get pip in there?
[20:59] <brousch> pdfserenitynow was python3.2
[20:59] <rick_h_> when I create one it creates the virtualenv but pip/etc is still pointed to the normal system versions
[21:00] <rick_h_> did a python3.3 -m venv venv  seems to setup just the python bits but no easy_install, pip, etc to use to get things into the venv
[21:03] <brousch> virtualenv includes its own pip
[21:06] <brousch> I'm using Ubuntu's python-virtualenv python3-setuptools, python3.2 from deadsnakes
[21:06] <brousch> virtualenv -p python3.2 venv
[21:06] <brousch> (venv)brousch@foxmeat:~$ pip --version
[21:06] <brousch> pip 1.1 from /home/brousch/venv/lib/python3.2/site-packages/pip-1.1-py3.2.egg (python 3.2)
[21:13] <rick_h_> hmm, it doesn't in python3.3 I guess :(
[21:13] <brousch> I just tried 3.3 and pip failed
[21:15] <brousch> Looks like ubuntu virtualenv is 1.7.1 but 1.9.1 is available on pypi
[21:16] <brousch> Ubuntu pip is too old to install newer virtualenv
[21:16] <brousch> geekers
[21:16] <brousch> There has to be a ppa for this
[21:20] <brousch> OK, got it
[21:20] <brousch> sudo apt-get remove --purge python-vitualenv; sudo apt-get autoremove;
[21:20] <brousch> sudo easy_install3 pip; sudo pip-3.2 install virtualenv;
[21:21] <brousch> Then virtualenv works for python3.3
[23:01] <snap-l> rick_h_: Which coffeeshop were you at?
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[23:04] <brousch> rick_h_: Did that work for you?