[06:05] <somaunn> hello everyone
[06:12] <trender> mornin
[06:13] <somaunn> trender, more
[06:13] <trender> i bring the rain
[06:14] <somaunn> whoa
[06:20] <somaunn> something new in the ubuntu  world ?
[06:21] <somaunn> except the fact canonical will bring an impressive concept in few days 
[06:26] <Kilos> morning all
[06:27] <trender> mornin
[06:32] <somaunn> morning Kilos 
[06:44] <somaunn> Guys i'm actually using ubuntu 13.04 beta on my desktop and i can tell you this thing is fast good and it just works
[06:46] <Kilos> sounds good somaunn 
[06:46] <Guest6170> hi
[06:46] <Kilos> hi Guest6170 
[06:47] <somaunn> the only things i'm busy fixing is to get my video card properly configured
[07:13] <Kilos> always video card probs
[07:13] <Kilos> hi henkj 
[07:16] <henkj> hi Kilos 
[07:18] <Squirm> morning
[07:22] <Kilos> hi Squirm 
[07:48] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[07:48] <magespawn> good morning Kilos
[07:48] <Kilos> its raining at last, 60 mm last night and so far
[07:49] <magespawn> i cannot connect to irc.ubuntu.com, anybody know anything or is it just me?
[07:49] <magespawn> well that is good news Kilos
[07:49] <Kilos> yip
[07:49] <magespawn> Maaz is irc.ubuntu.com up?
[07:49] <magespawn> is that the right way to ask?
[07:50] <Kilos> lol i dunno
[07:50] <Kilos> maybe try down
[07:50] <magespawn> Maaz is irc.ubuntu.com down
[07:50] <magespawn> Maaz help
[07:50] <Maaz> magespawn: I can help you with: looking things up, remembering things, delivering messages, decisions, games, monitoring things, browsing the internet, conversions, silly fun stuff, calculations, system administration, software development and south african stuff.
[07:50] <Maaz> Ask me "help me with ..." for more details.
[07:50] <Kilos> oh my he struggling too
[07:52] <Georgl> another ibid bot?
[07:52] <magespawn> Maaz help me with monitoring things
[07:52] <Maaz> magespawn: I use the following features for monitoring things: coffee, http, icecast, meeting and ping
[07:52] <Maaz> Ask me "how do I use ..." for more details.
[07:52] <Kilos> python bot
[07:53] <Georgl> Maaz: version
[07:53] <Maaz> Georgl: I am version 0.1.1
[07:53] <Kilos> magespawn: i cant get it either so must be down
[07:53] <Georgl> yup ibid python bot
[07:53] <Kilos> ohi Georgl ty for following us on the tweet place
[07:53] <magespawn> Maaz is irc.ubuntu.com up?
[07:54] <Kilos> maintain now by the weed
[07:54] <Georgl> Kilos: cool
[07:54] <Kilos> only get ubuntu-za relevant posts there like meets and so on
[07:55] <magespawn> Maaz help with looking things up
[07:55] <Maaz> magespawn: I use the following features for looking things up: apt-file, aptitude, bash, bible, dict, distance, dns, factoid, feeds, fml, fortune, google, help, imdb, lastfm, lotto, mac, man, microblog, mlia, oeis, ports, rfc, seen, tfln, tinyurl, tld, translate, tvshow, unicode, weather and youtube
[07:55] <Maaz> Ask me "how do I use ..." for more details.
[07:56] <Kilos> haha
[07:56] <magespawn> not what i am looking for
[07:56] <Kilos> QA says its just me
[07:58] <Kilos> You tried to access the address http://irc.ubuntu.com/, which is currently unavailable. Please make sure that the web address (URL) is correctly spelled and punctuated, then try reloading the page.
[07:58] <magespawn> so maybe 
[07:58] <Kilos> i cant get there with opera
[07:58] <magespawn> Maaz is http://irc.ubuntu.com down?
[07:59] <Georgl> it get the 'It works' page
[07:59] <Georgl> i*
[08:00] <magespawn> that is the default for apache
[08:00] <Georgl> yeah, should it be that?
[08:00] <magespawn> Maaz: is irc.ubuntu.com up?
[08:00] <Georgl> or has something happened?
[08:00] <Maaz> magespawn: Yes, http://freenode.net/ is up
[08:01] <Georgl> refreshing pointed to freenode as per Maaz
[08:01] <magespawn> not sure, that is the usual server that my irc client connects to but it could not connect today as all
[08:01] <magespawn> trying to check that specific server
[08:01] <Cantide> http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/irc.ubuntu.com
[08:01] <Georgl> ok
[08:01] <magespawn> ahh well not tooo serious i suppose
[08:02] <magespawn> ahh that is a useful link Cantide
[08:02] <Georgl> any thoughts on running gnome3 on 12.10? anybody doing that?
[08:02] <Cantide> hi '-'
[08:02] <Kilos> hi Cantide 
[08:02] <Cantide> hey Kilos :)
[08:02] <magespawn> looks like it is down
[08:03] <Cantide> i mean yo yo yo Kilos my man >.<
[08:03] <Kilos> hehe
[08:03] <Cantide> sorry, my slang is weak today
[08:03] <Cantide> magespawn, yeah :/
[08:06] <magespawn> Cantide: how the travel plans?
[08:06] <Cantide> still working on it
[08:06] <Cantide> went to the police station to get police clearance earlier, and they said i have to come on a weekday -.-
[08:07] <Cantide> so now i need to see when i can get time off work
[08:07] <magespawn> serving the people as always
[08:07] <Cantide> hehehe
[08:07] <Kilos> what a schlep that is
[08:08] <Cantide> the policeman was quite strange as well, "Sorry bru, you can't get it now. Come back on Monday"
[08:08] <Kilos> he is just lazy
[08:08] <Cantide> really? you talk to people with slang when you're a policeman? and he wasn't polite about it at all
[08:08] <Cantide> quite rude actually
[08:08] <Cantide> yeah, maybe that, too :p
[08:08] <Cantide> magespawn, and my interview is on Monday, so I have to wait and see what happens there first anyway :p
[08:10] <magespawn> interview for a job?
[08:11] <Cantide> yup
[08:11] <Cantide> via Skype, because the company is in Korea
[08:11] <magespawn> here? or there?
[08:11] <magespawn> ahh right that makes sense
[08:11] <Cantide> yeah, one must arrange a job first because the visa is through the employer
[08:11] <magespawn> seemed a bit odd to go for a job interview when you are making plans to leave
[08:11] <Cantide> :p
[08:13] <magespawn> was not on the same page there for a bit
[08:14] <Cantide> i should have explained it better :)
[08:14] <magespawn> no worries
[08:14] <Cantide> but yeah, the job is quite nice :)
[08:14] <Cantide> if i get it
[08:14] <magespawn> well good luck then
[08:15] <Cantide> thanks '-'v
[08:15] <Cantide> my webcam is so kak, i will just blame Africa
[08:18] <Kilos> hi georgelappies 
[08:22] <magespawn> Cantide: what will you be doing there?
[08:22] <Cantide> teaching English '<
[08:23] <magespawn> cool you enjoy teaching?
[08:24] <Cantide> http://www.jobpagoda.com/en/pagoda/infocenter/faq03.jsp this place
[08:24] <Cantide> yeah, it's fun :)
[08:25] <georgelappies> hiya Kilos, how is things this morning?
[08:25] <Cantide> difficult to start out, but after 3 months i was enjoying it a lot :) because by that point i knew the curriculum well and i was a lot more confident than when i started
[08:25] <Kilos> good ty georgelappies and you?
[08:25] <magespawn> i am not sure i could stand all the frustration teachers here have to deal with
[08:25] <Cantide> frustration?
[08:25] <Kilos> we got both georges here today
[08:26] <magespawn> the dep of education, the have insane adminfrom what i understand
[08:26] <Cantide> i think teaching is one of the most rewarding jobs
[08:26] <Kilos> haha Cantide you will have to forget all the slang
[08:26] <Cantide> ah, well of course that varies depending on where you teach :p
[08:26] <Cantide> Kilos, I barely use slang so I will be fine :P
[08:26] <Kilos> but they most likely know it all already
[08:26] <Cantide> not South African slang they don't :P
[08:27] <Cantide> students are curious about slang, and it helps them to function in the real world, but yeah, i'd not something i'd teach unless asked
[08:27] <Kilos> they will most likely "hey" you when you say morning class
[08:27] <Cantide> it's not *
[08:27] <Cantide> nah, Koreans have too much respect for that
[08:27] <Kilos> ah
[08:27] <Cantide> teachers are idolized there
[08:27] <magespawn> as they should be
[08:28] <Cantide> as long as you teach them well, they will respect you and do anything you ask of them, not like here
[08:29] <magespawn> teachers are resposible for the future of a country
[08:29] <Cantide> yeah
[08:29] <Cantide> so are students though
[08:30] <Cantide> it's a combined effort
[08:30] <Cantide> and we just have the wrong mentality in our country - no one wants to learn
[08:30] <Kilos> yip the teacher molds them
[08:30] <Cantide> you can't teach someone who isn't interested
[08:30] <georgelappies> good thank Kilos :)
[08:31] <magespawn> well i would not say no one, and generally those who do are too easily influenced by the others
[08:31] <Cantide> yeah, i'm generalizing a bit :p
[08:31] <Kilos> one day i will put a row of smileys here, to make up for not using them
[08:31] <Cantide> :)
[08:31]  * Cantide looks forward to that day
[08:31] <Kilos> hehe
[08:32] <Kilos> easiest one is <3
[08:32] <magespawn> i found out the other day that there are 75 or so schools in kzn that do not offer maths for matric 
[08:32] <Kilos> thats bad amge
[08:32] <Cantide> heh
[08:32] <Kilos> magespawn: too
[08:32] <Cantide> i heard that our country has the second worst education in the world when it comes to maths and science
[08:33] <Cantide> one of my friends that matriculated in pinetown said he didn't have a science teacher for the last two years of high school :<
[08:33] <Kilos> ouch
[08:34] <magespawn> madness, i consider maths and languages the core of any education
[08:34] <Kilos> most of our good teachers haveleft for greener pastures
[08:34] <Kilos> sad
[08:35] <Cantide> yeah
[08:36] <magespawn> we are very fortunate with my kids primary school, awesome teachers with tons of experience
[08:36] <Kilos> good
[08:37] <Cantide> nice :)
[08:37] <Cantide> private schools are expensive, but worth it
[08:38] <Cantide> (if you can afford it)
[08:48] <magespawn> Cantide: any idea what the cost of living is like there? i see the exchange rate to the dollar is high, but does not mean much without context
[08:49] <magespawn> cost of livinge versus typical income?
[08:51] <magespawn> All Koreans speak and write the same language, which has been a decisive factor in forging their strong national identity. taken from here http://www.korea.net/AboutKorea/Korea-at-a-Glance/Facts-about-Korea
[08:57] <Cantide> magespawn, i should be earning 2.5 to 3 million won a month
[08:58] <Cantide> in rands that's about 23 000 a month
[08:58] <magespawn> sounds a lot
[08:58] <Cantide> and my rent will be something like 3000 a month
[08:58] <Cantide> public transport is cheap and convenient
[08:58] <Cantide> and food is a similar price to here
[08:59] <Cantide> so i should be able to save about R 15 000 a month easily
[08:59] <Cantide> electronics are cheaper, too
[08:59] <magespawn> nice
[08:59] <Cantide> and clothing was cheaper
[08:59] <Cantide> i bought an Intel 330 series 120 GB SSD there in November for about R 950
[08:59] <Cantide> and i saw it here the other day for R 1699
[09:00] <magespawn> maybe start an export business, lol
[09:00] <Cantide> lol
[09:00] <Cantide> i have a Korean friend who wants to do that
[09:00] <Cantide> and he was asking about exporting to SA
[09:00] <Cantide> but i know nothing about such things :p
[09:00] <magespawn> i wonder what the transport cost are like
[09:01] <Cantide> hmm
[09:01] <magespawn> i was looking into getting stuff from china
[09:01] <Cantide> i'm not sure about it
[09:01] <Cantide> would be good to have a friend in shipping :p
[09:02] <magespawn> yes it would, altough a lot of the shipping/freight companies offer very complete services
[09:04] <magespawn> well if you need an sa partner you know where to find me
[09:04] <Cantide> lol
[09:04] <Cantide> :p
[09:04] <Cantide> well, my plan is to teach
[09:04] <Cantide> but i don't intend doing it for the rest of my life
[09:05] <Cantide> so yeah, i will be looking at other jobs / opportunities while i'm there, and hopefully get into something else after about 5 - 10 years of teaching
[09:05] <Cantide> (once i've learnt the language)
[09:07] <magespawn> you seem to be doing quite well in that area
[09:08] <Cantide> eh
[09:08] <Cantide> well, i lost my teacher :p
[09:08] <Cantide> but i will take lessons once i'm there
[09:09] <magespawn> there are few link here http://www.korea.net/AboutKorea/Korea-at-a-Glance/Facts-about-Korea if need a headstart
[09:10] <Cantide> hehe
[09:10] <Cantide> i think i know 90% of what's on that page :D
[09:13] <Symmetria> sup
[09:14] <Cantide> hey Symmetria :)
[09:14] <Symmetria> http://www.alstonnetworks.net/presentations/camera.jpg
[09:14] <Symmetria> check new toy ;p
[09:16] <Cantide> whooa
[09:16] <Cantide> is that a rail gun? :p
[09:16] <Symmetria> hehehe
[09:16] <Symmetria> 150-500mm optical stabilized lense
[09:16] <Symmetria> take photos of the hairs on a flys ass from 100 meters away ;p
[09:16] <Cantide> LOL
[09:17] <Symmetria> (or park a few hundred meters from a nudist beach) ;p
[09:17]  * Symmetria laughs
[09:17] <Cantide> looks expensive :p
[09:17] <Cantide> hahaha
[09:17] <Symmetria> heh the lense? *shrug* its actually by lense standards not bad, about 13k, its the only really *LARGE* lense that is vaguely affordable
[09:18] <Symmetria> if you want anything bigger than that you're into the 50k+ bracket
[09:18] <Cantide> o_O
[09:18] <Cantide> eish...
[09:18] <Cantide> good choice :D
[09:18] <Cantide> haha
[09:23] <magespawn> camera lenses that you could buy a car with
[09:24] <Squirm> I now understand why the images are such highres it takes me an age to download them
[09:25] <Symmetria> Squirm hehe 
[09:26] <Symmetria> heh magespawn you aint gonna get a car for 13k
[09:26] <Symmetria> or not one that goes 
[09:26] <Symmetria> ;p
[09:34] <magespawn> no i meant the other lenses
[09:34] <magespawn> the 50k plus
[09:37] <Symmetria> yeah
[09:37] <Symmetria> Squirm lol, if you think those images are high res
[09:37] <Symmetria> you should see when I start putting the raws online
[09:37] <Symmetria> camera is capable of taking a photo that is 40meg in size
[09:37] <Symmetria> ;p
[09:44] <magespawn> irc.ubuntu.com is back up
[10:19] <Squirm> I see mybb just went down
[10:25] <Squirm> nuvolari: is it raining?
[10:26] <Squirm> going to watch the rugby
[10:26] <Squirm> it better not be raining
[10:27] <Cantide> i think it is
[10:27] <Cantide> here in Durban
[10:27] <Cantide> and it's cold -.-
[10:28] <Squirm> I know it's cold
[10:28] <Squirm> cold is fine
[10:28] <Cantide> yeah
[10:28] <Squirm> but you say it's raining?
[10:28] <Squirm> :/
[10:28] <Cantide> wet weather is not good for rugby :<
[10:28] <Squirm> oh well
[10:28] <Cantide> yes, i just looked outside
[10:28] <Cantide> but it's not raining hard
[10:29] <Cantide> more like drizzle than rain
[10:29] <Squirm> same here. this is the third day :/
[10:30] <Cantide> :/
[10:30] <Squirm> free tickets and a lift, so I'll be there :P
[10:30] <Cantide> i just put on an extra layer of clothing :)
[10:30] <Cantide> oh, nice :)
[10:30] <Cantide> yeah, it's worth going even if it's a bit wet
[10:30] <Cantide> but if it pours.. meh
[10:30] <Cantide> i think most of the rain is over though
[10:31] <Squirm> and I just saw on Facebook that Red Light Stereo will be playing in the field afterwards :D
[10:31] <Squirm> oh wait, I have a heater! I'm being cold and I forgot I had a heater
[10:32] <Cantide> haha
[10:32] <Cantide> i was thinking of getting one
[10:32] <Cantide> but then i put on my winter clothes from Korea
[10:32] <Cantide> feeling rather warm now :)
[10:32] <Squirm> this little fan heater hasn't run since last winter. 
[10:33] <Squirm> mmm, burning dust
[10:33] <Cantide> lol
[10:33] <Cantide> i also have a fan heater somewhere
[10:33] <Cantide> parents bitch that it wastes electricity
[10:33]  * Cantide rolls his eyes
[10:33] <Squirm> I may need 2, it was barely able to keep my single room warm. now I have 2xsingle rooms and a kitchen and bathroom
[10:33] <Squirm> just need to keep doors shut
[10:33] <Cantide> lol
[10:34] <Cantide> i just aim it directly at myself
[10:34] <Squirm> oh, I do too
[10:35] <Squirm> but to warm up the room as well
[11:57] <magespawn> later all
[12:05] <Squirm> CanAFK: weather update?
[12:05] <Squirm> cheers magespawn 
[12:20] <CanAFK> no rain :p
[12:24] <CanAFK> Squirm, ^
[12:27] <Squirm> :D
[12:28] <Cantide> i'm not in the city centre though
[12:28] <Cantide> but not far out either
[12:28] <Cantide> still, no rain here, so i assume no rain there
[12:28] <Squirm> where bouts are you Cantide 
[12:28] <Cantide> Queensburgh
[12:29] <Cantide> well, Hillary actually - which is considered part of Durban city and not part of Queensburgh, but it's next to Queensburgh
[12:29] <Squirm> I don't know Hillary. know of Queensburgh. Can't recall going there though
[12:30] <Cantide> well, just think of Queensburgh and you will be close enough to the mark
[12:33] <Vince-0> Cantide: !
[12:33] <Vince-0> so the LUG plans 13.04 relese party on the 4th May 
[12:34] <Cantide> yeah, i saw that
[12:34] <Cantide> and i have a 30th to attend on the same day -.-
[12:34] <Vince-0> ow
[12:34] <Cantide> but hopefully the release party is early enough for me to make it there and then to the 30th afterwards
[12:51] <Squirm> where is it?
[12:51] <Squirm> the release party
[12:54]  * Cantide doesn't know yet
[12:58] <Squirm> these friends of mine are completely unable to judge time :p
[12:58] <Squirm> no, we'll pick you up at maybe 14:20
[12:59] <Squirm> I'm at home, so it's fine. but still :P
[13:01] <Cantide> it's fine until it gets to the point that you'll be late :p
[13:02] <Squirm> free tickets, free ride :P
[13:04] <Cantide> :)
[13:04] <Cantide> i had free box tickets 2 weeks ago
[13:04] <Squirm> probably going to be late :P
[13:04] <Cantide> regretted that the next day
[13:04] <Squirm> stands :/
[13:05] <Cantide> aahh
[13:05] <Cantide> so that's why you were worried about the rain
[13:07] <Cantide> just dress warmly and you'll be fine :p
[13:08] <Squirm> uh
[13:08] <Squirm> found out why they're late
[13:08] <Squirm> :/
[13:08] <Squirm> they've lost the tickets
[13:11] <Cantide> =_=
[13:11] <Cantide> now that sucks -.-
[13:12] <Kilos> aw
[13:12] <Kilos> totally lost or misplaced?
[13:12] <Squirm> well, they can't find them :P
[13:14] <Kilos> tell them look in the clothes they wore the day they brought them home
[13:14] <Kilos> or bags sachels etc
[13:15] <Kilos> then all other safe places
[13:15] <Squirm> I'm sure they've done that
[13:19] <Squirm> found it :p
[13:19] <Squirm> bbl
[13:20] <Kilos> where
[13:20] <Kilos> lol
[14:45] <trender> (.)(.)
[14:45] <trender>   __
[14:46] <trender>   V
[14:51] <trender>   |
[14:51] <trender>   |
[14:52] <trender> ______
[14:52] <trender> nobody alive
[14:52] <trender> kilos :P
[14:53] <Kilos> yessir
[14:53] <Kilos> wassup trender 
[14:53] <trender> wat maay jy met dy skaap
[14:53] <trender> mmak
[14:53] <trender> maak :)
[14:54] <trender> eish just woke up
[14:54] <Kilos> hehe as hulle goed teel hou hulle die pot vol
[15:02] <Kilos> muddy game coming for sharks/cheetahs
[17:45] <superfly> ohi
[17:57] <Kilos> hi there superfly 
[17:57] <superfly> Kilos... surviving?
[17:57] <Kilos> yessir ty and there?
[18:10] <superfly> ya
[18:11] <Symmetria> sup
[18:11] <Symmetria> man, I dunno wtf is up with my dog and cameras, she growls and barks at me when I pick up the damn camera
[18:34] <charl> good evening
[18:34] <charl> Maaz: coffee on
[18:34]  * Maaz flips the salt-timer
[18:38] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl!
[18:40] <Symmetria> sup charl
[18:42] <charl> hi Symmetria 
[18:42] <charl> Maaz: thanks
[18:42] <Maaz> charl: Sure
[18:42] <charl> i am convinced that running a tiling window manager is for people with adhd
[18:49] <Symmetria> lol
[18:50] <Symmetria> I been sitting playing with my new camera lense and with photoshop all night
[19:18] <superfly> that would be me then.
[22:13] <Squirm> evening
[22:13] <digigram> hey
[22:37] <Squirm> I think I should go to sleep
[22:50] <trender> (.)(.)
[22:50] <trender>   __
[22:53] <digigram> hi trender
[22:55] <trender> yo
[22:56] <trender> alte smoke break
[22:56] <trender> late
[22:57] <trender> what doing so late digigram ?
[23:04] <digigram> still early here in texas ;)
[23:11] <trender> oh ya
[23:11] <trender> 1am here