[00:00] <harris> why do i always have to type nm-applet why doesnt it work automatically
[00:00] <jamesaepp> Is it safe to delete /var/lib/mlocate.db.e1GYsY ??
[00:00] <nat_> i believe Poisoned_Dragon has answered my question, i will try that dragon, tyvm!
[00:01] <nat_> take care all
[00:07] <harris> any good videos on what is a gigabit switch and how do i use it
[00:08] <OerHeks> harris, no need to configure a switch, it is an intelligent hub.
[00:08] <harris> i know i want to know what it is
[00:08] <harris> i have like 7 of them
[00:09] <genii-around> Plug cord in, plug other end of cord into something else, voila
[00:10] <OerHeks> pro switches can be managed, fiber
[00:11] <genii-around> OerHeks: Well, true.
[00:11] <harris> what does it do though
[00:11] <genii-around> harris: If they are some higher end types with vlan, aggregation, etc, they might know more about them in ##hardware or ##networking
[00:12] <harris> it says i cant send to hardware
[00:12] <genii-around> harris: Switches connect things which can use networking cable together
[00:12] <DJRWolf> there is a difference between managed and unmanaged switches
[00:13] <DJRWolf> for a network forenics class I had, the teacher needed to bring in a hub or managed switch, an unmanged one would not work
[00:13] <genii-around> harris: If it's "gigabit" it means the speed is 1000 instead of 100 , etc
[00:13] <OerHeks> a switch extends 1 port into 4/8/16/24 new ports
[00:14] <rmarker> i am locked out of my file. it is saying i do not have permission. How do i fix this?
[00:14] <DJRWolf> it is because we had to disconnect the "deep frozen" lab computers and hook them up to the hub/managed switch and he had 2 computers that he would use live malware on, an unmanged switched would not have let us view the network traffic between them as the infection happened
[00:15] <Poisoned_Dragon> harris: A gigabit switch is a router that passes data at a rate of 1 gigabit/s, or 1000 megabits/s.
[00:16] <Poisoned_Dragon> It's just like your 10/100 router, but faster.
[00:17] <OerHeks> Do not mix 100/1000 :-)
[00:17] <Brittany> Is there any kind of application I could use that would be able to wake ubuntu from suspend and play an alarm? Curse having nothing but a $1,300 machine to be an alarm clock.
[00:19] <vasco_> what are likely alternatives to ntp for time sync'ing? some servers clock is off, but ntp is not installed
[00:20] <harris> on the gigabit switch there isnt a port to plug the one from router into it
[00:22] <Poisoned_Dragon> I think only business level routers still have an uplink port.
[00:23] <Poisoned_Dragon> I just chain one router to another.
[00:23] <rmarker> anyone know how to change file permissions?
[00:23] <genii-around> harris: They will usually just autosense anyhow
[00:24] <rmarker> i got locked out somehow of my files what can i do?
[00:25] <KatsumeBlisk> rmarker: chmod is the command for that.
[00:25] <rmarker> i am a newbi i dunno how to use that
[00:25] <KatsumeBlisk> rmarker: Define locked out.
[00:26] <rmarker> You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of
[00:26] <rmarker> i can not get to my files hince locked out
[00:27] <KatsumeBlisk> rmarker: In the terminal, "chmod 775 <filename>"
[00:27] <Poisoned_Dragon> if you type sudo yourfilemanagerhere, you can access the files as root. Also you can right click them and change the permissions.
[00:27] <KatsumeBlisk> Poisoned_Dragon has a better suggestion rmarker
[00:27] <Poisoned_Dragon> I wouldn't say better. Just gui based.
[00:27] <Poisoned_Dragon> if your terminal savvy, KatsumeBlisk's suggestion is fine
[00:28] <rmarker> i want a quick way to change it. all personal files ar effected
[00:29] <harris> when i connected to the gigabit switch the ping and download speed went down is that better or worse
[00:29] <Poisoned_Dragon> what is your desktop environment, rmarker? Unity, KDE, Xfce, LXDE?
[00:30] <rmarker> uh i dunno i just installed the latest Ubuntu
[00:30] <Poisoned_Dragon> Unity
[00:30] <Poisoned_Dragon> in terminal, type: sudo nautilus
[00:31] <Poisoned_Dragon> Then you can look at files as root, and right click them to change permissions.
[00:31] <genii-around> !gksu | Poisoned_Dragon
[00:31] <jjosh> hi
[00:31] <Poisoned_Dragon> I'm using Xubuntu. It let's me do sudo with no issues. :)
[00:31] <harris> !xubuntu
[00:32] <rmarker> Initializing nautilus-dropbox 1.4.0
[00:32] <rmarker> Nautilus-Share-Message: Called "net usershare info" but it failed: 'net usershare' returned error 255: net usershare: cannot open usershare directory /var/lib/samba/usershares. Error No such file or directory
[00:32] <rmarker> Please ask your system administrator to enable user sharing.
[00:33] <Poisoned_Dragon> rmarker, if you're going to paste more than 3 lines of txt, use paste.ubuntu.com
[00:34] <Poisoned_Dragon> it keeps things cleaner
[00:34] <nashant> Hi guys. Can anyone point me to some info on how to set up nfs sharing with different permissions for different ips?
[00:34] <rmarker> i know i have ubuntu 12.10
[00:34] <DrChaos> why is Ubuntu unable to find a source package for freetype when I type "apt-get build-dep freetype"?
[00:35] <trism> DrChaos: do you have the source repositories enabled?
[00:39] <DrChaos> trism :: how do I enable those?
[00:41] <rmarker> anyone else that can help?
[00:42] <tredwas> What is the metapackage for LAMP?
[00:42] <KatsumeBlisk> tredwas: lampserver if I recall
[00:42] <harris> how does a gigabit switch take a slow connection and make it faster
[00:43] <KatsumeBlisk> tredwas: there's a dash. It's lamp-server
[00:43] <ddssc> anyone knows if 13.04 works properly with intel/nvidia optimus setup for hdmi monitors ?
[00:43] <tredwas> KatsumeBlisk: dash, is that the package name?
[00:43] <KatsumeBlisk> tredwas: No. I gave you and answer and it was missing the dash. install "lamp-server"
[00:44] <nashant> anyone know how I can set up nfs sharing with read permission for *, then rw permissions for 192.168.1.2?
[00:47] <tredwas> KatsumeBlisk: I found it on tasksel, thanks
[00:47] <gnuskool> harris: how do you mean?
[00:47] <gnuskool> tredwas: tsksel is not the recommended way to install lamp
[00:48] <tredwas> gnuskool: Why?
[00:49] <rayj> can anyone reccomend to me a good 802.11n pci/pci-e wifi card for xubuntu 12.04? (rtl8187 doesn't work)  also is intel's 4000 igp powerfull enough for a 2560x1600 monitor desktop use?
[00:49] <trism> DrChaos: software-properties-gtk , check the Source Code box, then: sudo apt-get update;
[00:49] <Dr_willis> !tasksel
[00:50] <infinitux> God I'm going insane trying to install the latest nvidia driver.
[00:50] <infinitux> I have the driver runtime downloaded from nvidia.com
[00:50] <Kyzz> I'm a new Ubuntu user running 12.04 and when i try to connect to wifi it keeps asking for credeitnals after I login with the correct credentials..any ideas?
[00:51] <infinitux> but seems no matter what I try fails leaving me with a config I don't want
[00:51] <nashant> Dr_willis: Is it even possible to set up different nfs share permissions per ip?
[00:51] <infinitux> how do I properly get rid of the nouveau driver and install the latest nvidia?
[00:51] <rmarker> I feel a infinitux i am just trying to get all my personal files unlocked
[00:51] <infinitux> rmarker: find . -name '*' -exec chown username:username {} \;
[00:52] <gnuskool> harris: sudo apt-get install php5 mysql-server apache2 this will install each independently
[00:52] <infinitux> better yet... sudo find . -name '*' -exec chown username:username {} \;
[00:52] <harris> install what!!!!!
[00:53] <gnuskool> harris: LAMP,....it is LAMP you want isint it?
[00:53] <harris> what the heck is that
[00:53] <KatsumeBlisk> gnuskool: tredwas wanted the LAMP but he might've dc'd
[00:53] <harris> i just asked how to keep the code nw-applet running all the time
[00:54] <gnuskool> KatsumeBlisk: lol, thanks
[00:54] <gnuskool> harris, my bad ;) someone else wanted the lamp stuff
[00:54] <DrChaos> trism :: I'm using Linux Mint so I literally had to copy the Ubuntu quantal main restricted universe multiverse deb lines in /etc/apt/sources.list and paste them onto some new lines in that file, and then change deb to deb-src on the lines that I just pasted
[00:54] <DrChaos> but you really helped me
[00:55] <theborger> hey, just did an update on 10.04 and now i have no internet access
[00:55] <DrChaos> trism :: when I enabled Source Code in Software Sources it enabled deb-src for Linux Mint repositories only
[00:55] <BlueEagle> theborger: I see. Do you use a wired or a wireless connection?
[00:55] <gnuskool> theborger: most probably the wifi driver
[00:55] <jamesaepp> Assistance on this would be much appreciated: http://goo.gl/ttOaH
[00:55] <KatsumeBlisk> theborger: I'd upgrade because 10.04 is reaching end of life this month.
[00:55] <theborger> wired connection with staticip
[00:55] <trism> DrChaos: both ways do the same thing, I just thought software-properties-gtk would be easier
[00:56] <trism> DrChaos: glad you got it working
[00:56] <theborger> BlueEagle: ^^^^^^^
[00:56] <Malsasa> Hello, how to set NO_CHROME_KDE_FILE_DIALOG=1 variable in Ubuntu? I have done export "NO_CHROME_KDE_FILE_DIALOG" in bash but after restarting 2 times, Chromium is still use Kdialog. I am using KDE 4.10.2.
[00:56] <DrChaos> trism :: I wish somebody would teach me how to upgrade a deb package to a new point release with my very own ./configure arguments
[00:56] <bradley> hello all, i have a ubuntu server running on my old laptop, but the laptop keeps over heating, how can i set the fan to max ?
[00:57] <SonikkuAmerica> Malsasa: Did you check in #kubuntu ?
[00:57] <DrChaos> I want freetype 2.4.11, but Ubuntu 12.10 has only Freetype 2.4.10
[00:57] <BlueEagle> theborger: And ifconfig shows that the interface has the IP in question. Are you able to ping your gateway or modem?
[00:57] <Dr_willis> Malsasa,  how are you exporting it?
[00:57] <SonikkuAmerica> DrChaos: Is there a PPA for Freetype?
[00:57] <SonikkuAmerica> !ppa
[00:57] <Malsasa> SonikkuAmerica: yes, but still ne answer. I just ask how to command.
[00:57] <gnuskool> bradley: vacuum the dust out of the laptop too
[00:57] <theborger> BlueEagle: yep it shows the interface, and no, i can not ping my router
[00:57] <Malsasa> Dr_willis: what exporting? I have only small experience with shell.
[00:58] <bradley> there is no dust, i just cleaned it
[00:58] <BlueEagle> theborger: Which IP and netmask does your NIC have and which IP address does your router have? Also, are you using any firewall?
[00:58] <Meep__> Hello, can I get some advice on an install I'm trying to run? I'm trying to install Ubuntu alongside Windows 7 for a dual boot, but I'd like to put it on a different hard drive than where Win7 lives. When running the installation Ubuntu throws an error saying it can't create the boot loader
[00:58] <bradley> gnuskool the fan isnt even spinning
[00:58] <Dr_willis> Malsasa,  you put that export command in your .bashrc or .profile  Just running the command from a shell will work FOR THAT SHELL ONLY./ and will not survive a reboot
[00:59] <Dr_willis> Malsasa,  so im guessing you are not exporting it correctly
[00:59] <theborger> BlueEagle: network is on 192.168.1.1, ubuntu is on 192.168.1.15 /24
[00:59] <SonikkuAmerica> Meep__: It might be possible that your ISO is corrupted...
[00:59] <gnuskool> bradley: sounds unlikely to be fixed by software, youmay have to get hands on, unclog it
[00:59] <Dr_willis> Malsasa,  as a test. run that export command from a konsole, then run chromium from that same terminal. see if it works
[01:00] <Malsasa> Dr_willis: yes, maybe my export command wrong. export "NO_CHROME_KDE_FILE_DIALOG=1" was my command. Is it wrong?
[01:00] <bradley> gnuskool: i just did but the fan spins when the laptop turns on then nothing when i log in to my server
[01:00] <Meep__> SonikkuAmerica: It boots fine off the thumb drive and its a fresh copy of the ISO
[01:00] <GunArm1> anyone know, if I'm creating a new raid5 mdadm array, why is it taking ~1800 minutes to do "recovery" when there is no data yet?
[01:00] <BlueEagle> theborger: So broadcast is then 192.168.1.255?
[01:01] <theborger> BlueEagle: yep
[01:01] <SonikkuAmerica> Meep__: Does it provide any other details about the error?
[01:01] <BlueEagle> theborger: Then you need to check your cable, because your box is correctly configured.
[01:01] <Meep__> I'd need to get back in and run it again, jumped into Windows to get on IRC
[01:02] <Meep__> I'll switch machines so I can do both, brb
[01:02] <gnuskool> bradley: it has been a while since i did anything with fan speeds, but when i did, it was done using a package called lmsensors, dig up what you can about it
[01:02] <bradley> ok thanks
[01:02] <Malsasa> Dr_willis: yes, it works and KDialog change into GTK dialog again, but only if I run chromium from bash. What if I want this setting permanent?
[01:02] <gnuskool> bradley: it can be quite involved and technical if you like that sort of thing
[01:03] <Dr_willis> Malsasa,  set it in your .bashrc or .profile as i said earlier........
[01:03] <gate> I have a new machine just spun up, can log in as ubuntu via ssh pubkey authentication, create a new user, copy authorized_keys, set permissions and all attempts to auth as that user via ssh time out. Can't find anything specific to username in sshd_config or pam.d/ssh.   Can anyone suggest what it might be?
[01:03] <bradley> yep, i may only be 15, but i am the computer master xD
[01:03] <Dr_willis> bbl. gotta run
[01:03] <bradley> just joking i dont know shit xD
[01:04] <BlueEagle> theborger: What does your /etc/resolv.conf say?
[01:04] <Malsasa> My .bashrc last line is export NO_CHROME_KDE_FILE_DIALOG=1 but chromium still use Kdialog
[01:05] <gnuskool> bradley: there are heaps of sites with info about, if you can follow instructions it should be ok
[01:07] <jamesaepp> Assistance on this would be much appreciated: http://goo.gl/ttOaH
[01:07] <Meep> Ok, I'm fired up on the Ubuntu installer, stepping through to where I pick how I want the partitions to work out
[01:08] <SonikkuAmerica> OK
[01:08] <Malsasa> gnuskool: how to set environtment variable permanently for my Chmromium?
[01:08] <semitones> Hello again
[01:09] <semitones> I'm using ubuntu-one, and I'd like to delete ~/Documents from my cloud folder (it's currently taking up 3 gb)
[01:09] <jamesaepp> Meep: Where does the issue begin?
[01:09] <IdleOne> semitones: #ubuntuone should be able to help
[01:09] <semitones> IdleOne, thanks!
[01:10] <Meep> jamesaepp: its a problem with the bootloader
[01:10] <jamesaepp> Do you receive an error message? (I'll be honest, I am not at all good with grub)
[01:11] <jamesaepp> I am assuming you mounted the partition as / correct?
[01:11] <Meep> Trying to get to there, waiting for the installer to catch up
[01:11] <Meep> yeah
[01:11] <Meep> this is going to run along side my win7 install
[01:11] <Meep> though it will be on another hard drive
[01:11] <jamesaepp> Hmm. What is the error message?
[01:12] <jamesaepp> yeah, windows 7 and ubuntu....not exactly simple
[01:12] <jamesaepp> I've never done it myself, so I am probably not much help. Sorry :S
[01:12] <Meep> its ok, figuring it out is half the fun
[01:12] <Meep> ...or something
[01:13] <Meep> ok, so first off, partitions
[01:13] <Meep> I need a swap, and a main partition right?
[01:14] <Meep> mount point is set as /
[01:14] <gnuskool> Malsasa: i was reading back to see your problem - sorry I dont know how
[01:14] <SonikkuAmerica> Meep: How much RAM do you have?
[01:14] <Meep> lots
[01:14] <Meep> 16 gb
[01:14] <SonikkuAmerica> Meep: You porb don't need swap then.
[01:14] <SonikkuAmerica> Of RAM?!
[01:14] <SonikkuAmerica> *prob
[01:14] <Meep> yeah, newegg kinda whoopsied
[01:14] <jamesaepp> yeah, definitely not :P
[01:15] <Meep> ok, so no swap
[01:15] <DJRWolf> are there any good guides to edubuntu and what it can do for say a high school?
[01:15] <Meep> only partition I need then is just the main mount?
[01:15] <SonikkuAmerica> DJRWolf: Anyone in #edubuntu tonight? They might answer that for you. Also, check out their Web site.
[01:16] <jamesaepp> DJRWolf: I would suggest looking at LTSP
[01:16] <jamesaepp> DJRWolf: There is a build for ltsp and edubuntu
[01:17] <Meep> ok...broke the installer but I think that was my fault, trying again
[01:17] <lagbox> hello just upgrade to ubuntu 13.04 ... why can i not use my scroll wheel in gtk apps ? why does the filemanager not have a status bar anymore ?
[01:18] <SonikkuAmerica> lagbox: Ask that in #ubuntu+1
[01:18] <lagbox> thank you
[01:18] <DJRWolf> LTSP?
[01:18] <DJRWolf> Long Term Support?
[01:19] <gnuskool> Malsasa: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2655641/set-environment-variable-in-ubuntu the example shown is for java, jst put your code in its place
[01:20] <Malsasa> gnuskool: okay, is command export NO_CHROME_KDE_FILE_DIALOG=1 correct when I put in there? Or my command wrong? I am sorry because I am new in Linux variable.
[01:21] <Meep> ok, for selecting where the boot loader lives, its defaulting to dev/sda
[01:21] <Meep> but Win7's boot loader lives on sde1
[01:22] <Meep> so....trying the default I guess
[01:23] <gnuskool> Malsasa: the command is correct, but you need to put it in the right place depending on if youre in kde or gnome
[01:23] <Malsasa> gnuskool: okay, okay. I put in /etc/environment
[01:23] <gnuskool> Malsasa: read that entire post, it explains in detail, there is further clarification here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables#Session-wide_environment_variables
[01:24] <jamesaepp> DJRWolf: Sorry for delayed response. LTSP allows for many computers to boot over a network off of a server. It's really neat. Check out this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3u44VeX73M
[01:24] <jamesaepp> DJRWolf: It stands for Linux Terminal Server Project. Really neat stuff.
[01:25] <Malsasa> gnuskool: but this /etc/variable is only working when i run chromium in terminal, not in menu. What should I do if I want this setting applied in kde menu shortcut for Chromium?
[01:25] <DJRWolf> ahh, like PXE
[01:26] <jamesaepp> DJRWolf: Exactly like PxE
[01:26] <Mathuin> Anyone here know what recently changed in Ubuntu 12.04.2 that causes X to segfault when Minecraft starts up?
[01:26] <jamesaepp> all of the client boot over pxe to a tftp server, pull down a really small image, and then go through the server for pretty much everything else. I'm not positive if it is VNC technology, but I know it is awesome as hell.
[01:27] <jamesaepp> Mathuin: I would try a different video card drive from alternative drivers and see what happens
[01:28] <Mathuin> jamesaepp: The video card driver shouldn't have updated yesterday.  I really hope I don't have to rerun that NVIDIA install thing from non-X again.  Will give it a try.
[01:29] <jamesaepp> Mathuin: It was only a suggestion. Whenever I ran minecraft, the maximum issue I had was having to make .jar files executable
[01:30] <Mathuin> jamesaepp: can't hurt. :-)  I have a finicky NVIDIA setup here because I do OpenCL crap as well as gaming.
[01:30] <jamesaepp> *insert Linus joke here*
[01:30] <gnuskool> Malsasa: you could try what is suggested here http://userbase.kde.org/Session_Environment_Variables/en theen restart the pc for the variable to be loaded from startup
[01:30] <jbates58> hi all. im trying to edit my fstab to mount my usb drive to the same location when its unplugged and replugged into my system. but i keel getting this error: root@linaro-ubuntu-desktop:~# sudo mount -a fuse: failed to access mountpoint /media/OdroidStorageDrive: No such file or directory i have tried it with both the /dev/sd* and the uuid of the drive. my fstab string looks likt this: UUID= or
[01:30] <jbates58> /dev/sd* /media/OdroidStorageDrive ntfs defaults 0 0
[01:30] <jbates58> where did i go wrong?
[01:32] <Malsasa> gnuskool: so, i should restart? How about source command?
[01:32] <nexussix> hi all
[01:34] <Meep> ...
[01:34] <Meep> well thats dumb
[01:34] <nexussix> I have an issue with my machine locking up hard. When I notice its down, I plug in a monitor and the login screen is there but the mouse wont move and the keys have no effect. Its unavailable on the network either. Any ideas about where to look to find out whats happening?
[01:34] <Meep> finished the install, everything looks great, and it boots straight into windows with no prompts
[01:34] <Meep> >.<
[01:34] <nexussix> The logs seem to just stop - nothing odd in them to my eyes
[01:37] <Meep> Anyone know much about bootloaders?
[01:38] <bubbalooo> meep, somewhat
[01:39] <Meep> Trying to set up for dual boot with win7 and ubuntu
[01:39] <Meep> right now, its booting directly into 7 and looks like its skipping the boot loader
[01:40] <bubbalooo> !dual boot
[01:40] <bubbalooo> keep,
[01:41] <gnuskool> Malsasa: i'd try to put that command in startkde that way it persists between sessions - the instructions are at the very bottom of the page
[01:42] <theborger> BlueEagle: tried to change out network cables etc. still not working
[01:43] <theborger> changed from static still same issue. if i restart the network i just get DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 6
[01:44] <theborger> is there a way to go back before the updates were installed?
[01:47] <bubbalooo> meep, this a wubi or uefi setup?
[01:48] <Meep> UEFI
[01:48] <Meep> I think I'm making some progress
[01:48] <Meep> ...I think the bootloader is loading another bootloader
[01:48] <Meep> ...yep...ok I think I got this figured out
[01:48] <Meep> used a bcdedit program to fix it
[01:49] <theborger> anyone?
[01:49] <theborger> is there a way to go back before the updates were installed?
[01:49] <bubbalooo> meep you fixed it?
[01:51] <Meep> its fixed enough for the moment
[01:51] <Meep> I can actually get in now
[01:52] <Meep> Let me retrace my steps real quick and I'll tell you what I did
[01:53] <Meep> Ok, I used a utility called EasyBCD to rebuild the windows boot loader, it points at the GRUB 2 loader and makes it load correctly now. Its a little wierd because you run through two bootloaders now to get to Ubuntu
[01:54] <Meep> I wonder if I can edit the grub timer down so it just loads up Ubuntu if I dont immediately hit anything
[01:56] <SonikkuAmerica> Meep: That should be possible, it's in /etc/default/grub in Ubuntu
[01:56] <SonikkuAmerica> Meep: in EasyBCD I think it's in the menu.lst
[01:57] <whjms> Meep: grub-customizer will let you edit the timer through a gui
[01:57] <Meep> ok
[01:57] <Meep> right now, its first loading up the Win7 boot manager with a 30 second timer, and then when I hit ubuntu it fires up grub with another timer to pick either win7 or ubuntu
[01:59] <whjms> Meep: yeah, i had a similar workaround when i messed with the wrong partition.
[01:59] <leduc_b> join #
[01:59] <Meep> Is it possible to remove one of the duplicate boot loaders?
[02:00] <Mathuin> FWIW I fixed my problem with Minecraft by reinstalling the NVIDIA drivers.  Something about the most recent batch of updated packages caused the Alternative Driver page to lose its idea of what should be activated.  All better now!
[02:00] <jbates58> !fstab
[02:00] <riddrib> how can open .apk?
[02:01] <SonikkuAmerica> riddrib: Get an Android device.
[02:02] <SonikkuAmerica> !apk
[02:02] <whjms> is an android package just an archive?
[02:06] <histo> riddrib how is that ubuntu related?
[02:16] <theborger> got it working, thanks for the great idea, i got here
[02:16] <user___> greetings, i'm having a problem with file sharing with windows.
[02:17] <user___> the problem is if i share files from windows and after about an hour i try to connect to them again natiulus freezes
[02:23] <Kyzz> can someone help me out with wifi connection issues in version 12.04
[02:24] <DJJeff> someone wrote a script that reads a .deb file and can restore permissions it does not work if the perms is 'rws'
[02:24] <DJJeff> http://pastebin.com/eLsZk5hb
[02:24] <wilee-nilee> Kyzz, This an internal, run lspci to identify it and share that with the channel, and any other details
[02:25] <DJJeff> could someone take a look and help me so it can also do 'rws'
[02:25] <wilee-nilee> Kyzz, Share the wireless card that is.
[02:31] <Kyzz> wilee-nilee: I have an Intel(R) Centrino(R) Advanced-N 6205
[02:31] <Kyzz> so...not broadcom heh
[02:33] <Meep> ok, getting used to moving around the file system
[02:33] <Meep> is there a way to let me manually enter in the path that I want to look at?
[02:33] <Meep> like enable an address bar in the windows?
[02:36] <wilee-nilee> Kyzz, This and other links say it should be working in 12.04. http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=intel_6205_wlan&num=1
[02:37] <Meep> there are way less games available on Steam than I expected
[02:37] <Meep> thats unfortunate
[02:38] <trism> Meep: in the file browser? ctrl+L
[02:38] <Meep> thanks
[02:38] <Meep> are there hotkeys for jumping around the different viewports?
[02:39] <Meep> or throwing windows to other viewports?
[02:39] <trism> Meep: ctrl+alt+arrow keys to move around
[02:40] <trism> Meep: ctrl+alt+shift+arrow keys can move a window around to different workspaces
[02:40] <Meep> awesome
[02:40] <Meep> so, this is fun
[02:40] <Meep> I thought Valve moved their whole library to linux
[02:41] <wilee-nilee> Kyzz, Any details that might help here?
[02:41] <RobbyF> majority of the classics
[02:42] <CleanCarl> if i wanted to install the lightest distro based on ubuntu/debian, that could still use apt-get and support cinnamon, any clues?
[02:43] <Meep> is it possible to aim my home folders to other locations?
[02:43] <wilee-nilee> CleanCarl, the underlying system of all the ubuntu, kubuntu,lubuntu, and xubuntu are basically the same the desktops are the difference, choose one and install cinnamon.
[02:43] <Meep> for example, remap pictures to another folder elsewhere
[02:44] <wilee-nilee> CleanCarl, You will have two desktops unless you remove one of them is all.
[02:45] <CleanCarl> wilee-nilee: i snagged a copy of puppy built on precise, and couldnt get a wpa2 wireless connection to be able to install anything :(
[02:45] <CleanCarl> lappy has edubuntu on it now
[02:45] <CleanCarl> and unity
[02:45] <lagbox> anyone know of an issue with not being able to scroll with the mouse wheel in certain gtk+ applications ?
[02:45] <jjmil03> hello
[02:45] <jjmil03> anyone there?
[02:46] <lagbox> i can only scroll if hovering over the scroll bar
[02:46] <lagbox> no
[02:46] <djathoris> no one is here
[02:47] <wilee-nilee> CleanCarl, You could just install mint and get it over with if you want cinnamon. ;)
[02:48] <CleanCarl> its a 2gb pentium m 2ghz
[02:48] <djathoris> is cinnamon really so good?
[02:48] <wilee-nilee> and
[02:48] <CleanCarl> i figured some rev of ubuntu chopped down would perform much better
[02:49] <wahibdon> so installed server and after first boot ran apt-get install kde-plasma-desktop now when I try to login kde does not start.  what the hell did I do wrong?
[02:50] <djathoris> CleanCarl, are youhaving performance problems with a std ubuntu install?
[02:50] <CleanCarl> not really, but trying to eek out all the performance possible
[02:50] <CleanCarl> flash is slower than dirt
[02:51] <lagbox> yes it is
[02:51] <djathoris> simply going with xubuntu or lubuntu would lighten the OS
[02:52] <lagbox> yea for nautilus 3.6 sucking
[02:55] <yahyaa> would anyone know how to install archive manager in the konsole?
[02:55] <CleanCarl> imma try cinnarch ;)
[02:55] <CleanCarl> thx everyone
[03:08] <javanic> hello
[03:09] <javanic> can anyone help me.. i'm new to ubuntu and i installed and it keeps freezing!!
[03:12] <javanic> hello (hello echos)
[03:14] <wilee-nilee> !details | javanic for the channel.
[03:15] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[03:15] <javanic> i'm freezing up mostly when i click on "dash home" but also randomly... then i have to reboot to get going again
[03:16] <wilee-nilee> javanic, how did it run from the live cd?
[03:17] <wilee-nilee> what is the release, what is the hardware?
[03:18] <javanic> i never ran it from a live cd
[03:19] <harris> is there a lose it web app
[03:19] <javanic> AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3800+ × 2 1.8 GiB memory os 32-bit 250GB hd
[03:20] <wilee-nilee> javanic, Did you do a update yet?
 yes a few times, have had it installed for about a month
[03:20] <wilee-nilee> javanic, Has it always been this way?
 yes, from the get go
[03:21] <wilee-nilee> javanic, This a dualboot?
 nope, did a clean install just ubuntu. I switched from pclinuxos, but formatted disk
[03:22] <wilee-nilee> javanic, Well, not sure to be honest, best of luck. ;)
[03:22] <Mio-chan> javanic, do you have any propitiatory graphics drivers installed?
 i had nothing installed, did a format and let ubuntu  do the rest
[03:23] <bobdobalina> syslog may provide some valuable info, especially if you write down the exact time when you notice it is freezing
 thanks
 don't know how to do that, or what it would mean lol
[03:24] <riddrib> hello
[03:25] <Mio-chan> Well javanic, bobdobalina's right on syslogs. My only advice right now is you could try installing graphics drivers (assuming you're on 12.10, you would go to software sources, and then 'additional drivers')
 i am on 12.10, but how do i get to "software sources"? unfortunately it's been freezing so much i haven't been able to play around to find all the settings and such
[03:28] <soundissues> I need help my sound is no longer working and I cannot figure out why.
[03:28] <SpacePoet> how do i mount an image file to a loop device??
[03:28] <Mio-chan> javanic, via the Dash. If that's too unstable, you can launch a terminal and do it from there -> gksudo software-properties-gtk
[03:29] <Saberu4> my startup script isnt working. sh /home/hyx/cgminer/gfx
[03:29] <Saberu4> works in the terminal
[03:29] <Saberu4> doesn't work in rc.local
 it says that no proprietary drivers installed... should i try one of the options it gives me? if so, how do i choose the one i need?
[03:31] <soundissues> I need help my sound is no longer working and I cannot figure out why.
[03:31] <Mio-chan> javanic, simply select an alternative option and click apply. However, I can not guarantee to you that this will resolve your crashes.
[03:31] <tomreyn> SpacePoet: mount /tmp/disk.img /mnt
 ok, i'll try.. thanks for your help!
[03:34] <tomreyn> Saberu4: "doesn't work" is not much information. check your log file sin /var/log/ - they may tell you more about it. you should rather use crontab with the @boot trigger or ~/.bash_profile (assuming you use the bash) if you want to run a script as your user at login, though.
[03:38] <soundissues> how can I tell the developers that my sound works with 3.5.0-17-generic but not with any of the kernels after that???
[03:39] <wilee-nilee> soundissues, file a bug report
[03:39] <soundissues> and just how would I do that ?
[03:39] <tomreyn> soundissues: run "ubuntu-bug linux" and mention "regression"
[03:39] <wilee-nilee> soundissues, Make sure it is stock kernel for your release.
[03:41] <soundissues> all I know is kernel 3.5.0-17 works and neither 3.5.0-26 or 27 work
[03:41] <soundissues> and I have no idea why
 i think that may have just fixed my problem!
[03:43] <soundissues> do I need to boot up the offending kernel
[03:44] <soundissues> and then do bug-report ?
[03:44] <tomreyn> yes you should
[03:44] <soundissues> ok I will do that tomorrow then thx
[03:44] <xiangjianfeng> hello,everyone,may i ask a question? how to check a encoding of a filename out ? thx
[03:44] <soundissues> enjoying my sound working again for now lol
[03:45] <tomreyn> xiangjianfeng: gnu file
[03:45] <tomreyn> xiangjianfeng: file /path/to/file
[03:45] <harris> is there a web app for http://www.loseit.com/
[03:45] <javanic> speaking of sound issues, how come when i have my pc speakers plugged in the back, i can't use the headphone jack in the front of my tower??
[03:46] <soundissues> javanic go to terminal type alsamixer, then look in there for an 'auto muting' option
[03:46] <harris> is there a web app for http://www.loseit.com/
[03:46] <wilee-nilee> harris, No.
[03:46] <harris> why\
 nothing comes up when i type that lol
[03:47] <dr_willis> sounds like a weight loss web site
[03:48] <soundissues> alsamixer ?
[03:48] <soundissues> type alsamixer in terminal and hit enter
[03:48] <harris> its a weight loss site
[03:48] <soundissues> then look for an auto muting option and press 'm' to change the setting use arrow keys to look around
[03:48] <dr_willis> i guessed right...    ;-)
 did that, nothing comes up!
[03:48] <harris> is there though
[03:48] <Ademan> so this is odd. I'm on 12.04 and suddenly OpenGL doesn't work. I get a message "Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"." and when I check my Xorg.0.log I find "(EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)" Which bothers me because I have an intel gfx chipset... this issue is new as of a week ago, after 2+ years of working fine...
[03:48] <harris> dr_willis,
[03:49] <dr_willis> harris:  i would be suprised if there was..
 says no matches
[03:49] <harris> how do i look
[03:49] <wilee-nilee> harris, That's apple phone
[03:49] <wilee-nilee> an*
[03:49] <xiangjianfeng> --help
[03:49] <harris> no its a sight
[03:49] <harris> site
[03:49] <xiangjianfeng> -help
[03:50] <wilee-nilee> !help > xiangjianfeng
[03:50] <dr_willis> check askubuntu.com  on how to make a webapp from a site perhaps.
[03:50] <dr_willis> webapps seem sort of annoying last i used the feature
[03:51] <xiangjianfeng> it doesn't work...i mounted a fat system..the filename is all ??.rmvb
[03:51] <dr_willis> vlc can play   .rmvb
[03:51] <dr_willis> thats a realplayer video. sort of rare these days
[03:52] <xiangjianfeng> i want to know the encoding of the filename.
[03:52] <Saberu4> can anyone help me with my startup script?
[03:52] <Saberu4> it's saying it can't find the file but i've added the FULL path :( :(
[03:53] <dr_willis> load in vlc. look at the file details menu item  xiangjianfeng
[03:53] <dr_willis> Saberu4:  whats the path/name
[03:54] <Saberu4> /home/hyx/cgminer/gfx
[03:54] <Saberu4> hyx is the username
[03:54] <Saberu4> cgminer is a subdirectory in the hyx home folder
[03:54] <Saberu4> gfx is the bash script
[03:55] <dr_willis> and is it executable?
[03:56] <dr_willis> does /home/hyx/cgminer/gfx    run it?
[03:56] <Ademan> Saberu4: also make sure you have the appropriate #! /bin/bash  line at the start of your script
[03:56] <Saberu4> yeh I 777'd the whole damn directory cos i hate permissions
[03:56] <dr_willis> and the  cAsE of the thing is correct
[03:56] <dr_willis> how.. silly
[03:57] <Saberu4> damn! it worked without the .
[03:57] <Saberu4> thanks
[03:57] <dr_willis> the. ?
[03:57] <Saberu4> yeh u just ashed me <dr_willis> does /home/hyx/cgminer/gfx    run it?
[03:57] <Saberu4> i was adding a . before
[03:57] <Saberu4> ./home/hyx/cgminer/gfx
[03:58] <Ademan> hah
[03:58] <dr_willis>   ./foo the   .   means look in local dir...
[03:58] <Saberu4> i assed u needed a . to execute files
[03:58] <Saberu4> yeh i know the . also means that. i thought it had 2 meanings :(  now i realise that's stupid LOL
[03:58] <dr_willis> you dont need a.
[03:58] <Saberu4> ok thnaks, i know now
[03:58] <dr_willis> you do need a proper path
[03:58] <Ademan> Saberu4: . /foo/bar/baz is different from ./foo/bar/baz
[03:58] <Ademan> iirc . /foo/bar/baz is equivalent to source /foo/bar/baz
[03:59] <dr_willis> spaces matter. ;-)
[03:59] <Ademan> ok, lets see if removing these nvidia packages fixes my broken opengl...
[03:59] <dr_willis> that syntax is hard to read at tymes
[04:00] <dr_willis> night all...
[04:07] <Saberu4> dr_willis still no luck
[04:07] <Saberu4> i mean it works but not in rc.local
[04:07] <Saberu4> /etc/rc.local i presume that will run the startup scripts. but it isnt executing
[04:07] <The_Rufus> hey everyone. Can anyone tell me where I can get IRC assistance for rTorrent?
[04:08] <kvothetech> The_Rufus: what are you trying to do with it
[04:09] <kvothetech> The_Rufus: probably in #rtorrent or #libtorrent but..
[04:09] <The_Rufus> well, it works fine, except if I give it a magnet link and I restart rtorrent for any reasons, the .torrent files load up and continue, but the torrents put there via magnet links are gone
[04:09] <The_Rufus> files are there, it just doesn't load them up
[04:10] <The_Rufus> I tried #rtorrent but it doesn't exist
[04:10] <kvothetech> pastebin your .rc
[04:10] <The_Rufus> command to pastebin?
[04:11] <kvothetech> pastebinit
[04:11] <kvothetech> or something like that
[04:13] <The_Rufus> http://pastebin.com/1jrG9h7X
[04:13] <ph0enixss> hey all
[04:13] <ph0enixss> anyone here have experience with lxc?
[04:14] <kvothetech> ph0enixss: ask your question might be more helpful
[04:15] <KyeRussell> Hi all. Where does the wpa_supplicant package on Ubuntu get its driver list from? I've compiled iand installed a ralink driver, yet wpa_supplicant doesn't acknowledge that the driver exists (isn't in the driver list, etc).
[04:16] <Saberu4> net split?
[04:16] <The_Rufus> so to be clear, everything to do with .torrent files is working fine. But when I BKSP and load.start> a magnet link it will work fine until such time as I restart, then rtorrent only re-loads the .torrent files and not the magnet links. Files for both are still sitting there complete/incomplete.
[04:17] <xiangjianfeng> tomreyn thanks..fri..
[04:17] <The_Rufus> if I paste the magnet back into rtorrent, the files pick up where they left off
[04:18] <yeahbrooooo> hello
[04:18] <yeahbrooooo> is there any way to upgrade from jaunty?
[04:18] <yeahbrooooo> besides reinstalling?
[04:18] <ph0enixss> sure. i got lxc set up on my 12.04 host using the ubuntu-lxc ppa's and a custom kernel (so that almost everything in lxc-checkconfig reports that it's enabled)... i followed the serverguide https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/lxc.html to create a (default) precise container. now, i was able to have that host boot, but it wasnt getting a proper dhcp eth0 address. i corrected that using isc-dhcp-server.
[04:18] <ph0enixss> now - my problem is - my linux container has an eth0 address, it can resolve and ping out, but it is SLOOWWWWW
[04:19] <ph0enixss> like super slow
[04:19] <ph0enixss> like 36 ping packets in 5 minutes slow
[04:20] <ph0enixss> does anyone have experiences with this? i'm really at a loss for how to debug this.
[04:21] <ph0enixss> non networking stuff seems fast
[04:22] <ph0enixss> i tried disabling ufw and that had no effect
[04:22] <The_Rufus> anyone know about my issue?
[04:23] <c2tarun> I shared a folder and it has many folder and files inside it. Some has read access to 'others' but many dont have. How can I give this access to all files and folders?
[04:24] <ChogyDan> c2tarun: make the folder executable?
[04:25] <c2tarun> ChogyDan: main folder is already exectable "drwxr-xr-x" the problem is many folders inside main folder are not exxecutable. Its very tedious to make them executable one be one, how can I make all of them executable at once
[04:25] <ChogyDan> c2tarun: probably a -R in the command, there
[04:26] <Saberu4> anyone help me with my startup script?
[04:26] <ChogyDan> c2tarun: like, chmod +x -R ./folder      maybe
[04:26] <c2tarun> ChogyDan: it worked :) thank
[04:26] <ChogyDan> np
[04:27] <ph0enixss> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5723394/
[04:29] <The_Rufus> nobody?
[04:40] <ChogyDan> The_Rufus: try deluge
[04:40] <The_Rufus> deluge being?
[04:40] <KyeRussell> Hi all. Where does the wpa_supplicant package on Ubuntu get its driver list from? I've compiled iand installed a ralink driver, yet wpa_supplicant doesn't acknowledge that the driver exists (isn't in the driver list, etc).
[04:40] <The_Rufus> IRC channel?
[04:42] <|Slacker|> what's with this error: W:Failed to fetch http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/quantal/Release.gpg  Something wicked happened resolving 'extras.ubuntu.com:http'
[04:43] <|Slacker|> I've been experiencing it for the last 40 days no matter what repo I use
[04:43] <dodo3773> KyeRussell: Are you trying to use wpa_supplicant directly? Also, drivers are handled by the kernel. Is the right module loaded? If you look through dmesg does it tell you the card loaded? Does your card require firmware && did you install said firmware?
[04:44] <dodo3773> |Slacker|: Do you have a firewall running?
[04:44] <|Slacker|> nope...and I've just reinstalled ubuntu yesterday from scratch
[04:45] <dodo3773> |Slacker|: You can browse the web and ping domains/ips and all that though yeah?
[04:45] <|Slacker|> yep
[04:45] <KyeRussell> dodo3773: I'm trying to use it directly, it's running on Ubuntu server (don't ask) so I can't exactly use networkmanager or anything. I'm fairly sure the right module is loaded as the device shows up in iwconfig, modprobe worked.etc. when I run wpa_supplicant without any flags it shows the list of drivers I can use, and ralink is nowhere to be seen.
[04:45] <|Slacker|> even my vm's update normally
[04:45] <Saberu4> can someone help me with my startup script?
[04:46] <|Slacker|> only ubuntu and ubuntu derivatives get this error
[04:46] <dodo3773> KyeRussell: Oh I see what your saying. Did you create a wpa_supplicant.conf file with wpa_passphrase yet?
[04:46] <Saberu4>  my ubuntu rc.local startup script isnt running, nor is my crontab @reboot script. both trying to start a bash script but neither want to run.  the path is /home/hyx/cgminer/gfx
[04:46] <KyeRussell> I've created a wpa_supplicant.conf file, when I try to run it without the driver flag (with wext driver I'd imagine) I get errors. I'm trying to auth to an 802.1x network so I don't imagine wext drivers will work with my chipset
[04:47] <bray90820> Does Gwibber have touch controls
[04:49] <dodo3773> KyeRussell: Oh. Hmm. The only one I've ever used has been wext
[04:49] <|Slacker|> I even tried a different repo, from my own city and still I get the error
[04:50] <dodo3773> KyeRussell: Just to verify this is what you did yeah: wpa_passphrase mywireless_ssid "secretpassphrase" >> /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf && wpa_supplicant -B -Dwext -i wlan0 -c /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf
[04:50] <dodo3773> KyeRussell: Where /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf is whereever the conf directory on your system is
[04:51] <KyeRussell> When I do that, I get an error, something about not being able to communicate properly with the driver.
[04:51] <dodo3773> |Slacker|: That is pretty strange.
[04:51] <|Slacker|> yeah...tell me about it...
[04:51] <KyeRussell> The readme for my chipset's driver says I need to use the ralink driver with wpa_supplicant (i.e. -Dralink)
[04:52] <KyeRussell> when I do that, wpa_supplicant tells me the driver doesn't exist.
[04:52] <ubuthetechguru> hi guys
[04:52] <Guest96914> tfw no drivers
[04:52] <KyeRussell> and when i run wpa_supplicant without any flags it shows a list of drivers available for me, and it's supposed to show ralink amongst those drivers, which it doesn't.
[04:53] <|Slacker|> now it worked fine, I guess my connection or dns is somehow screwed up
[04:53] <|Slacker|> I'll check with my provider tomorrow
[04:53] <|Slacker|> thanks for the help dodo3773
[04:53] <Hisaki> :DD
[04:55] <dodo3773> KyeRussell: Does 802.1x mean that the network is not wpa/wpa2 encrypted?
[04:55] <dodo3773> |Slacker|: You're welcome. Glad you sorted it out
[04:56] <KyeRussell> I believe it's wpa2, 802.1x sits on top, some enterprise authorisation stuff.
[04:56] <dodo3773> KyeRussell: I don't see anything in the man page about ralink
[04:57] <KyeRussell> neither, it's strange
[04:58] <rmarker> how do i get dvd decryption?
[04:58] <dodo3773> KyeRussell: In man wpa_supplicant.conf there is: "key_mgmt=IEEE8021X" in one of the examples. Maybe that's what you need? Look at that page
[04:58] <Saberu4> can anyone help me with my rc.local probme?
[04:59] <dodo3773> rmarker: Package called "libdvdcss"
[04:59] <dodo3773> Saberu4: Is the script executable (did you chmod it)
[04:59] <ubuthetechguru> having a NFS sharing and permission/owner issues, can someone help?
[05:00] <rmarker> i do not see that. i am running xubuntu
[05:01] <Saberu4> update: i did a test script in rc.local and it executed
[05:01] <dodo3773> rmarker: Let me check
[05:01] <dodo3773> Saberu4: Oh cool
[05:01] <Saberu4> so there's something specific as to why it wont execute my bash script named 'gfx'
[05:01] <Saberu4> path is /home/hyx/cgminer/gfx
[05:02] <Saberu4> any ideas guys?
[05:03] <Saberu4> could it be possible that rc.local / cron etc are just opening the bash file in an editor instead of executing it?
[05:03] <Saberu4> but in terminal it executes
[05:03] <dodo3773> Saberu4: Post the script
[05:04] <dodo3773> rmarker: Here you go: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs
[05:05] <dodo3773> Saberu4: Also did you do this to your script: "chmod +x /path/to/my/script" to make sure it had permission to execute?
[05:05] <Saberu4> i did
[05:05] <dodo3773> Okay
[05:05] <dodo3773> Saberu4: Let's take a look at the script then.
[05:06] <ubuthetechguru> what makes a folder or file have the following permissions? rwxr-sr-w
[05:07] <dodo3773> ubuthetechguru: Either the install script setting it that way or the user. Is that what you mean>
[05:07] <Saberu4> ok it's coming
[05:07] <dodo3773> Okay
[05:07] <Saberu4> only small so im gonna paste it here
[05:07] <Saberu4> !#/bin/bash
[05:07] <Saberu4> export GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT=100
[05:07] <Saberu4> export GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS=1
[05:07] <Saberu4> export DISPLAY=:0
[05:07] <Saberu4> /home/hyx/cgminer/cgminer --scrypt --thread-concurrency 8192 --worksize 128 -u saberu.16 -p x -o stratum+tcp://stratum.give-me-ltc.com:3333 --intensity 18.2 --temp-cutoff 85 --gpu-fan 85 --gpu-engine 1000 --gpu-memclock 1350,1300
[05:07] <FloodBot1> Saberu4: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:07] <rmarker> thanks it worked
[05:07] <ubuthetechguru> dodo3773, what does the s mean for the group?
[05:07] <dodo3773> rmarker: Great glad you got it sorted
[05:08] <Saberu4> can u see it?
[05:08] <dodo3773> Saberu4: No the irc server bot cut you off I think. Try just usign a paste site like pastebin or pastie or something and then post a link here
[05:09] <Saberu4> http://pastebin.com/sfY3X0YG
[05:10] <dodo3773> ubuthetechguru: Check this out (it's old but may explain it): http://linuxfocus.berlios.de/English/January1999/article77.html
[05:12] <dodo3773> Saberu4: Assuming that's your rc.local file? Okay. Now post the script "/home/hyx/cgminer/cgminer". Also, how do you have switches from your script?
[05:13] <Saberu4> dodo that's my bash script
[05:13] <Saberu4> the rc.local runs that script
[05:13] <Saberu4> by calling /home/hyx/cgminer/gfx
[05:13] <Saberu4> gfx is the name of the bash script
[05:13] <Saberu4> cgminer is a program, i can paste it but it's pretty complex i imagine
[05:14] <dodo3773> Saberu4: Oh I see
[05:14] <Saberu4> it's a program that uses the graphics cards to do decryption
[05:14] <dodo3773> Saberu4: Does the cgminer need to run as root or regular user?