[08:52] <smartboyhw> zequence, is http://paste.ubuntu.com/5723796/ OK?
[08:54] <zequence> smartboyhw: looks fine to me
[08:54] <smartboyhw> zequence, post?
[08:54] <zequence> sure
[08:54]  * smartboyhw should delete the 12.10 thing in here.
[08:54] <smartboyhw> DONE
[08:55] <smartboyhw> Or rather: Change the Beta 2 = Please test RC
[08:56] <smartboyhw> That's better!
[08:56] <smartboyhw> zequence, ^
[09:00] <zequence> smartboyhw: Are you posting to the website too?
[09:00] <smartboyhw> zequence, posting:P
[09:02] <zequence> I'm going to the store. Once I get back, I'll post to G+ and facebook too
[09:12] <smartboyhw> zequence, the store!?
[09:13] <smartboyhw> What store:P
[09:13] <smartboyhw> DONE for posting in the website
[09:29]  * smartboyhw decides to write an artwork blog post for Ubuntu Studio along with the testing call
[09:48]  * smartboyhw is downloading the Ubuntu Studio 7.10 ISO for fun:P
[10:00] <zequence> Just the local food store
[10:01] <zequence> I posted on G+ and facebook too
[10:04] <smartboyhw> zequence, :)
[10:23] <zequence> Never trust the weather man. He's the biggest lier in the world
[10:30] <smartboyhw> zequence, :O
[10:30] <smartboyhw> It's true
[11:00] <smartboyhw> zequence, heh in "shared friends" I'm not included:P
[11:00] <smartboyhw> In the G+ page of Ubuntu Studio (official)
[11:03] <zequence> smartboyhw: What is "shared friends"?
[11:03] <smartboyhw> zequence, that means two people both have the other in their circles.
[11:03] <zequence> The Ubuntu Studio G+ page hasn't added anyone to its circles
[11:04] <smartboyhw> zequence, er wait
[11:04] <smartboyhw> zequence, in https://plus.google.com/u/0/102125777892703446963/posts
[11:05] <smartboyhw> I see six people: madeinkobaia, scott-work, you, holstein, astraljava and Darkera
[11:05] <smartboyhw> No me:O
[11:05] <zequence> You mean, you see them in the "X IN COMMON WITH YOU"
[11:05] <smartboyhw> zequence, yep
[11:05]  * smartboyhw has an Chinese interface of G+ sorry:P
[11:06] <zequence> That means they also have that page in their circle
[11:06] <smartboyhw> zequence, hmm i didn't/
[11:06] <zequence> Ubuntu Studio doesn't have anyone in its circle
[11:06] <smartboyhw> ?
[11:06] <smartboyhw> Oh bother
[11:06] <smartboyhw> Or maybe it doesn't show myself?
[11:06]  * smartboyhw doesn't understand.
[11:07] <zequence> It means you have them in your circles, and both you and them have Ubuntu Studio
[11:08] <smartboyhw> zequence, ah:O
[11:08] <smartboyhw> Hmm that's really few people:(
[11:13] <smartboyhw> zequence, I seriously wonder:
[11:13] <smartboyhw> In the "Support and Feedback" page of our website it says:
[11:13] <smartboyhw> "There are also #ubuntustudio-es and #ubuntustudio-fr for spanish and french speaking users."
[11:13] <smartboyhw> Are these two channels still active?
[11:13] <smartboyhw> As far as I can tell when I join the two channels there is only ChanServ and me
[11:14] <smartboyhw> And none of the channels have a topic
[11:14] <smartboyhw> Should we just simply remove this line?
[12:45] <smartboyhw> Hey DarkEra :)
[12:46] <DarkEra> hey smartboyhw ;)
[12:46] <smartboyhw> DarkEra, did you receive my e-mail to the -devel mailing list about RC testing?
[12:47] <smartboyhw> The milestone hasn't been created yet
[12:47] <smartboyhw> But the Ubuntu Release Team told us to start testing:)
[12:47] <DarkEra> oh shi-.... i didn't subscribe to that yet. Sorry.
[12:47] <DarkEra> i read something about it on G
[12:47] <DarkEra> G+
[12:48] <DarkEra> ah i see
[12:49] <DarkEra> lemme first try to wake up my brain, had a sleepless night
[12:51] <smartboyhw> DarkEra, :O
[12:52] <smartboyhw> DarkEra, we have that in our main website ubuntustudio.org
[12:52] <DarkEra> i know :)
[12:52] <smartboyhw> DarkEra, however: Please DO subscribe to the mailing list:)
[12:52] <DarkEra> i will do so for sure, don't worry
[12:53] <smartboyhw> DarkEra, :P
[12:54] <DarkEra> done
[12:56] <smartboyhw> DarkEra, \o/
[12:56] <smartboyhw> DarkEra, your wallpaper can be made into an full theme:P
[12:56] <DarkEra> hmmm?
[12:56] <DarkEra> you mean a pack?
[13:00] <smartboyhw> DarkEra, a pack of wallpapers:P
[13:02] <DarkEra> would be cool. I just saw the post on G+ but.... i think the logo should stay blue instead of purple. I'm going to try something
[13:02] <smartboyhw> DarkEra, :P
[13:06] <smartboyhw> There's no .02 :P
[13:06] <smartboyhw> It's just .2
[13:10] <DarkEra> one purple wallpaper with blue logo coming up
[13:10] <smartboyhw> DarkEra, :)
[13:24] <DarkEra> smartboyhw, better? 
[13:25] <smartboyhw> DarkEra, \o/
[13:59] <smartboyhw> Hey hey madeinkobaia :)
[14:00] <madeinkobaia> Hello smartboyhw ! :) 
[14:15] <madeinkobaia> About the social banners slogan, for the moment my idea is this one "13.04 release available now !" if anyone have a suggestion, another proposition feel free to contact me by mail this week-end : madeinkobaia@ubuntustudio.org.
[14:16] <smartboyhw> madeinkobaia, oh we added an email for you? Good!
[14:16] <smartboyhw> \o/.
[14:16] <madeinkobaia> 8-)
[14:16] <madeinkobaia> ;)
[14:16]  * smartboyhw searches for madeinkobaia's ticket in RT
[14:17] <smartboyhw> madeinkobaia, hmm you don't need an RT ticket?
[14:18] <madeinkobaia> You didn't find the ticket ?
[14:18] <smartboyhw> madeinkobaia, NOPE sorry
[14:18] <madeinkobaia> Wiat
[14:18] <smartboyhw> madeinkobaia, it's probably closed so I can't find it.
[14:18] <smartboyhw> madeinkobaia, give me your ticket number.
[14:18] <smartboyhw> :P
[14:19] <madeinkobaia> Its resolved, but normally you can find it even in that case
[14:20] <smartboyhw> madeinkobaia, no:(
[14:22] <smartboyhw> madeinkobaia, yeah I got it
[14:22] <smartboyhw> RT TIick 21383
[14:22] <smartboyhw> \o/
[14:27] <madeinkobaia> Yep that's it: ) Just for testing I tried with keywords to find it, without success, their search engine is a little bit freakish :P
[14:28] <smartboyhw> madeinkobaia, :P
[14:28] <smartboyhw> madeinkobaia, congrats for having an official @ubuntustudio.org address!
[14:29] <smartboyhw> zequence, I do think though: It is rather difficult for us to always file an RT ticket for e-mail address requests. Can't we do like create a team at Launchpad, then ask the Canonical IS to set up a cron server so that who gets added to the team can get an @ubuntustudio.org address? That is after all possible for Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Edubuntu members.
[14:32] <zequence> smartboyhw: I suggested that, but they preferred to do it this way
[14:33] <smartboyhw> zequence, yeah since we don't have official councils.
[14:33] <smartboyhw> and *official* members
[14:55] <madeinkobaia> bbl, enjoy the sun for those who have some :)
[14:55] <smartboyhw> madeinkobaia, rainy here.
[14:55] <madeinkobaia> :(
[14:55] <smartboyhw> zequence, how about in your city?
[14:58] <smartboyhw> Hurray I've done all the summaries for UWN 313:)
[15:07] <DarkEra> bbl, going for a walk
[15:12] <len-1304> smartboyhw, re: the email, shouldn't we be dropping our results in the daily iso tracker anyway?
[15:13]  * len-1304 has been, will do today.
[15:13] <smartboyhw> len-1304, not now I think. I worry that I will not be able to see the results anyway.....
[15:13] <smartboyhw> If it gets respun
[15:13] <len-1304> I thought they are archived
[15:13] <smartboyhw> len-1304, and I don't normally have interest in archived things.
[15:14] <len-1304> Anyway, I haven't done yesterdays yet but the day before was fine.
[15:14] <len-1304> smartboyhw, not much choice in this case
[15:14] <smartboyhw> len-1304, and that's just two days until the milestone will be created. 
[15:14] <smartboyhw> len-1304, :)
[15:14] <len-1304>  I think others look there to see if we are testing though.
[15:15] <smartboyhw> len-1304, we are at least good enough to start testing now.
[15:15] <smartboyhw> Most flavours haven't started
[15:15] <smartboyhw> len-1304, I do think this release will be rather bugless (since we got headers fixed and such)
[15:15] <len-1304> We have been basically ready for release since B2
[15:15] <smartboyhw> len-1304, yeah.
[15:15] <smartboyhw> len-1304, any suggestions/ideas for 13.10 & 14.04 LTS?
[15:16] <len-1304> We are mostly testing to make sure vanilla changes haven't messed us up.
[15:16] <len-1304> some. I will be doing more menu stuff for sure, try to clean up the settings mess.
[15:16] <smartboyhw> len-1304, I don't think so. The Ubuntu Community QA Team has done a cadence week to test the images in this week (though some of us including me drifted off to Testdrive hacking)
[15:16] <smartboyhw> len-1304, \o/
[15:17] <len-1304> I am not so enthused at the RT kernel thing, but it does make people happy that it is there.
[15:18] <len-1304> I have found that ootb rt doesn't help that much
[15:18] <smartboyhw> len-1304, I am not enthused too
[15:18] <smartboyhw> But we do want our users happy:P
[15:18] <len-1304> If a user is going to do really low latency work they have to be willing to do some manual tweaking.
[15:20] <len-1304> For recording, what we have already does very well ootb
[15:21] <smartboyhw> Some people are just too lazy to do tweaks in kernel but too enthusiastic about extremely low-latency
[15:22] <zequence> -rt outperforms -lowlatency easily, in the right circumstances. It's a high tech addition, and as long as someone is willing to maintain it, it doesn't hurt to add one
[15:22] <zequence> We won't replace -lowlatency with it
[15:22] <smartboyhw> zequence, someone = me (when I have spare time)
[15:22] <zequence> It think that would be a bad idea
[15:22] <smartboyhw> I think we should just put it in a PPA.
[15:23] <zequence> I'm also interested in adding a -rt kernel, and given the fact that I'm getting more comfortable in maintaining kernel source, it isn't such a huge step to start a new kernel
[15:23] <zequence> If we add it, we add it to the main repo. No PPA
[15:23] <len-1304> zequence, I agree, rt can do well, but if there are irq rpoblems or bios missettings it comes to nothing.
[15:24] <smartboyhw> zequence, OK
[15:24] <smartboyhw> len-1304, let's see how much we can put in.
[15:25] <len-1304> I certainly agree with having an RT kernel though.
[15:28] <smartboyhw> zequence, if I don't see you in five years as a Canonical Kernel Team employee I'll be feeling surprised:P
[15:54] <zequence> Software development is really just a side interest for me, as it is for many of us here. My main focus is music. 
[15:54] <zequence> But, if I'm offered a job, and I'm free, I won't say no
[15:55] <zequence> I don't think it'll be hacking kernels though. Unless I really start studying
[16:05]  * smartboyhw faints over so much "support" things today
[16:17] <smartboyhw> zequence: I tried to install the ISOs of Ubuntu Studio 7.10 and 8.04 today in a VM. Both of them failed with software installation:P
[16:19] <smartboyhw> Let me install 10.04.4 one day.
[16:20] <smartboyhw> zequence: When did Ubuntu Studio drop linux-rt actually?
[16:21] <zequence> smartboyhw: The last supported -rt was included in 9.10. Some releases before didn't have it
[16:21] <smartboyhw> zequence: OK
[16:22] <smartboyhw> zequence: Speaking about vUDS, our plan was to make people come and ask questions (feeling like Ubuntu OnAir!) right?
[16:26] <zequence> smartboyhw: Yes, I was planning for us to have a session there
[16:26] <zequence> smartboyhw: Why do you ask?
[16:26] <smartboyhw> zequence: Mark me not attending:P
[16:26] <zequence> smartboyhw: School?
[16:28] <smartboyhw> zequence: I have exam on early June. I will be grounded for computers.
[16:28] <smartboyhw> 13.04 will be my last big job to complete pre-exa
[16:28] <zequence> smartboyhw: It's Saturday. You should go out to the sun and buy yourself an ice cream
[16:28] <smartboyhw> After all, this exam affects what subject we will choose.
[16:29] <zequence> school is more important than this
[16:29] <smartboyhw> zequence: Er I should go asleep now, just idling:P
[16:30] <zequence> right. It's getting late even
[16:30] <zequence> It's best to go to sleep before 10. I try to, but I seldom get the chance
[16:30] <smartboyhw> zequence: See ya then.
[16:30] <zequence> smartboyhw: GN
[20:11] <len-1304> zequence, smartboyhw , 13.04 looks good. Jack, pulse and audio stuff seems to work fine.
[20:12] <len-1304> The only issue I have is with video stuff. Blender still kills X. That would be the open nvidia driver.
[20:13] <len-1304> I have an older card that is no longer supported by closed drivers so there is not much I can do about that.
[20:15] <zequence> len-1304: Sure it's the drivers themselves, and not just your graphic card?
[20:15] <len-1304> Anything is possible. The card works for most stuff. Blender and  mixxx are the only two I know where it doesn't.
[20:16] <len-1304> I don't have a real need to fix it though as I don't do video stuff
[20:16] <len-1304> zequence, does the standard video player work for you?
[20:16] <zequence> len-1304: Would be nice to report it though, especially if it's related to the drivers
[20:16] <len-1304> Totem I think.
[20:17] <zequence> I haven't had much time to do testing. 
[20:17] <len-1304> Tomtem doesn't work for me either, but xine and any of the other install do.
[20:18] <len-1304> zequence, bug 1008259
[20:18] <len-1304> This is a 64bit problem.
[20:19] <len-1304> I guess it tries to install the 32bit packages instead.
[20:19] <len-1304> Because of wine problems
[20:19] <len-1304> I don't know that it is fixable
[21:36] <zequence> ardour in Quantal has a problem. Missing one dependency which makes the LV2 guis not look flashy
[21:37] <zequence> I'm test building the Raring version on Quantal. It's really the same version, with the bugfix as one of the changes
[21:37] <zequence> Should be an easy SRU
[22:44] <DarkEra> zequence, i noticed a while back in 12.10 that the LV2 plugins look just like the ladspa plugins. Do you mean that?
[23:03] <zequence> DarkEra: Yes
[23:06] <zequence> I have the 64bit version of ardour built here ppa:zequence/ubuntustudio-sru-testing
[23:06] <zequence> 32bit is in que
[23:07] <zequence> cue*
[23:07] <zequence> Or, is it queue?
[23:09] <zequence> ..the many versions of Q
[23:14] <len-1304> que is short for queue as in line up and wait
[23:15] <len-1304> cue is can be a ball (the round ones not the dance) or a prompt.
[23:53] <DarkEra> i'm thinking about to wipe the third partition and help testing the daily builds (RC's) the upcoming days if i have the time. That way this laptop is a Ubuntu Studio triple boot machine if i do so