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khanfusedCan anyone assist with either some advice in JACK configuration, or a pointer to a well written *recent* guide?  I have a Line6 PodXT live (digital guitar amp) that I'm trying to get USB-plugged into my machine (ubuntu 12.10 w/ustudio ) so that the guitar signal shows up in Ardour. (cont)05:56
khanfusedThrough various experiments I've managed to get the guitar signal to show up on Ardour's VU meters ... but it doesn't hit the recording track, and (more importantly) I don't hear the guitar through the monitors/system speakers05:57
SunStarwhile you wait for some 1 who knows this stufff, you can also try in #jack and #opensourcemusicians06:01
khanfusedcool, thanks06:01
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EdmundHi Guys can anyone tell me how to install "kompozer" formally knows as "UNV"14:38
smartboyhwEdmund, sudo apt-get install kompozer?14:39
zequenceIs it in the repo?14:39
zequenceapt-cache search kompozer14:40
zequenceIt's possible to download and install manually http://www.kompozer.net/14:40
EdmundIt not in the repo and I tried  sudo apt-get install kompozer which gives me : Reading package lists... Done14:40
EdmundBuilding dependency tree14:40
EdmundReading state information... Done14:40
EdmundE: Unable to locate package kompozer14:40
zequenceEdmund: You can download from their site, then unpack the tar file anywhere, and run the binary "kompozer"14:43
zequenceIt has some dependencies though14:43
EdmundDoesn't work and no clue is given about missing whatever...14:43
zequencegoogle is your friend too http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=48416514:44
smartboyhw!lmgtfy14:44
ubottuWhile Google is useful for helpers, many newer users don't have the google-fu yet. Please don't tell people to "google it" when they ask a question.14:44
smartboyhwzequence, ^ :P14:44
zequencehttp://www.getdeb.net/updates/Ubuntu/10.04/?q=kompozer14:44
zequencesmartboyhw: I guess you didn't notice I also answered his question, while I told him how I found the answer14:45
smartboyhwzequence, reminder only:)14:46
zequencesmartboyhw: Please, don't remind me14:46
smartboyhw....14:46
Edmunddone all that, doest't work!14:46
smartboyhwEdmund, :O14:47
zequenceEdmund: The package is meant for Ubuntu 10.04, but it may work on newer14:47
EdmundI want it on unbuntustudio ( beta2 )14:47
zequenceEdmund: I'm looking up the dependencies, hold on14:55
zequenceIt's claiming that a dependency is missing, even when it isn't14:59
smartboyhwzequence, which?14:59
zequencesmartboyhw: Are you also looking at this?15:00
smartboyhwzequence, no. I'm helping out the UbuntuKylin guys to understand the difficult administration of the ISO QA Tracker:P15:00
zequenceThen why ask?15:00
smartboyhwzequence, I rather think the app set the install location wrong15:01
smartboyhwFor example, it looks at the dependency like /opt/bin/zequence, but actually it is in /usr/bin/zequence, etc.15:01
smartboyhwMaybe15:01
zequencesmartboyhw: It's trying to find a runtime library, and yes, probably looking in the wrong place15:02
smartboyhwzequence, Edmund what happened is that somebody requested removal of kompozer in 12.1015:04
smartboyhwand of course, 13.0415:04
smartboyhwzequence, I rather would want to download https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+files/kompozer_0.8%7Eb3.dfsg.1-0.1ubuntu2_amd64.deb and dpkg -i it15:04
smartboyhwhttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kompozer15:04
smartboyhwEdmund, ^15:05
smartboyhwAt least that's a 12.04 binary15:06
smartboyhwFor reference: Bug 106554715:06
ubottubug 1065547 in kompozer (Ubuntu) "Please remove kompozer from quantal" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/106554715:06
smartboyhwIt's actually reported by micahg:O15:06
zequenceIt's no longer maintained in Debian. That is why it's removed15:11
zequenceI think my problem has to do with this being a 64bit system15:11
smartboyhwmultiarch!!!!15:12
smartboyhwLOL15:12
zequenceI can confirm that installing the .deb packages smartboyhw linked to will work15:14
smartboyhwzequence, \o/15:14
zequenceEdmund: Download and install in this order https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+files/kompozer-data_0.8%7Eb3.dfsg.1-0.1ubuntu2_all.deb15:15
zequenceEdmund: If 64bit https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+files/kompozer_0.8%7Eb3.dfsg.1-0.1ubuntu2_amd64.deb15:15
zequenceEdmund: if 32bit https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+files/kompozer_0.8%7Eb3.dfsg.1-0.1ubuntu2_i386.deb15:15
zequenceThe command to install from command line is: sudo dpkg -i <packagename>15:16
zequenceEdmund: Actually, you might want to start with: sudo apt-get install libatk1.0-0 libc6 libcairo2 libfontconfig1 libfreetype6 libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0 libglib2.0-0 libgtk2.0-0 libidl0 libnspr4 libnss3 libpango1.0-0 libpng12-0 libstdc++6 libx11-6 libxft2 libxinerama1 libxrender1 libxt6 zlib1g15:17
zequenceThen download and install the two packages15:17
EdmundNow I get :16:00
Edmund sudo dpkg -i kompozer_0.8~b3.dfsg.1-0.1ubuntu2_amd64.deb16:00
EdmundSelecting previously unselected package kompozer.16:00
Edmund(Reading database ... 311978 files and directories currently installed.)16:00
EdmundUnpacking kompozer (from kompozer_0.8~b3.dfsg.1-0.1ubuntu2_amd64.deb) ...16:00
Edmunddpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of kompozer:16:00
Edmund kompozer depends on kompozer-data; however:16:00
Edmund  Package kompozer-data is not installed.16:00
Edmunddpkg: error processing kompozer (--install):16:00
Edmund dependency problems - leaving unconfigured16:00
EdmundProcessing triggers for menu ...16:00
EdmundProcessing triggers for man-db ...16:00
smartboyhwEdmund, install kompozer-data first16:00
EdmundProcessing triggers for bamfdaemon ...16:00
EdmundRebuilding /usr/share/applications/bamf-2.index...16:00
EdmundProcessing triggers for desktop-file-utils ...16:00
EdmundProcessing triggers for gnome-menus ...16:00
EdmundErrors were encountered while processing:16:00
Edmund kompozer16:00
smartboyhw!paste | Edmund16:00
ubottuEdmund: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.16:00
smartboyhwEdmund, install the -data first16:00
smartboyhwThen install the main thing16:01
zequenceEdmund: Read the whole text I wrote. Start with the dependencies, then install the packages in the right order16:02
zequenceEdmund: At this point, you might want to start with fixing your apt: sudo apt-get install -f16:02
zequenceEdmund: Then the dependencies: sudo apt-get install libatk1.0-0 libc6 libcairo2 libfontconfig1 libfreetype6 libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0 libglib2.0-0 libgtk2.0-0  libidl0 libnspr4 libnss3 libpango1.0-0 libpng12-0 libstdc++6 libx11-6 libxft2 libxinerama1 libxrender1 libxt6 zlib1g16:03
zequenceAnd then the packages - in the right order16:03
EdmundWowie, Thank you guys! I can open kompozer, great!16:08
smartboyhwEdmund, zequence \o/16:08
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is_nullhi all, if i just want to use ardour then i might as well install ubuntu and setup jack2 myself ? or is there anything else that ubuntu studio provides ?16:14
zequenceis_null: Add yourself to audio group, in order to get realtime privilege16:15
zequenceis_null: Also, if you require low latency, install linux-lowlatency16:16
zequenceis_null: Of course, you also need to answer "yes", when asked about realtime prio when installing jackd16:16
is_nullthanks zequence, so ubuntu + a low latency kernel + jack2 is as good as ubuntu studio for ardour ?16:17
smartboyhwis_null: well yes16:18
zequencesmartboyhw: He was asking me16:18
is_nullah ok, thanks16:18
zequenceis_null: And adding yourself to audio group16:18
zequenceis_null: Also, we have swappiness turned down to 10. It's at 60 by default16:19
zequenceis_null: You can adjust swappiness in /etc/sysctl.conf16:20
khanfusedI'd asked last night - but fell off line and couldn't see if anyone answered -- Can anyone assist with either some advice in JACK configuration, or a pointer to a well written *recent* guide?   I have a Line6 PodXT live (digital guitar amp) that I'm trying to get USB-plugged into my machine (ubuntu 12.10 w/ustudio ) so that the guitar signal shows up in Ardour. (cont)16:33
khanfusedrough various experiments I've managed to get the guitar signal to show up on Ardour's VU meters ... but it doesn't hit the recording track, and (more importantly) I don't hear the guitar through the monitors/system speakers (the important part right now -- some day I'll actually buy an amp with speakers :-)  )16:34
zequencekhanfused: Could you do this in a terminal, and post the results on http://paste.ubuntu.com: cat /proc/asound/cards16:43
zequenceThen post the link here16:44
khanfusedhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/5724947/16:45
zequencekhanfused: So, this is the ID name for your USB device "PODxtLive". We'll use that later16:46
zequencekhanfused: How do you usually start jack?16:46
khanfusedI re-did the experiments (mostly by noodling my way through) today.  I either start up qjackCtl or Patchage, and that starts the jack services16:47
khanfusedtoday it's patchage -- in both cases I've had accidental successes, but today patchage has me getting signal to Ardour's master channel. (That could be me being a n00b about patching/setup)16:47
zequencekhanfused: problem with starting patchage, if jack isn't running, is that it will start jackd, while qjackctl with default settings will start jackdbus, so you'll have two jacks running16:47
khanfused... ah16:47
khanfusedI have the 1 running - jackd16:48
khanfusedjust checked16:48
zequencekhanfused: I'd use qjackctl to start jack, and then if you prefer patchage, start it afterwards16:48
zequenceor, let me check patchage..16:48
zequencekhanfused: patchage will read your settings in ~/.jackdrc16:49
zequencekhanfused: Could you post the results from: cat ~/.jackdrc16:50
zequenceIt's just one line16:50
khanfused/usr/bin/jackd -p 128 -R -P 60 -T -d alsa -n 2 -r 44100 -p 1024 -d hw:1,016:50
zequencekhanfused: Close patchage, then kill jack: killall jackd16:53
khanfuseddone16:53
khanfusedand of course ardour complains about losing its friend :-)16:53
zequencekhanfused: Then, replace "hw:1,0" with "hw:PODxtLive", without the quotes, and make sure you add hw:16:53
zequencein .jackdrc16:54
zequenceor, to test it directly from the terminal: jackd -d alsa -d hw:PODxtLive16:54
khanfusedfile edited16:55
zequencekhanfused: The order of the cards may change at each boot, so when you start patchage, there's no saying which card is started, if the .jackdrc says hw:116:55
zequencekhanfused: Try the command first, to see if jack will start: jackd -d alsa -d hw:PODxtLive16:56
khanfusedwant a pastebin of the results?16:56
zequencekhanfused: Not if it worked16:56
khanfusedseemed to16:57
khanfusednone of the outputs screamed 'error'16:57
zequenceIf it didn't stop, it worked16:57
zequenceYou can shut it down with Ctrl+C16:57
zequencekhanfused: So, now, patchage will always start jack with your usb device16:57
zequencekhanfused: As for getting a signal into Ardour, you just need to make sure your Line6 is connected to the correct Ardour input. You can do that in patchage, or Qjackctl -> Connect16:59
zequencekhanfused: btw, if you want qjackctl to also start hw:PODxtLive, you'll need to add it manually to Qjackctl -> Setup -> "Interface"17:00
zequencekhanfused: And about monitoring. One easy way is to just connect your System input to your System output17:01
zequencekhanfused: All though, you can set monitoring in Ardour too. I haven't yet tried it, but it's usually not too complicated once you find the right buttons or settings17:01
khanfused'finding the right settings' seems to be the fun part :-) ... still trying to recreate what I did in patchage earlier -- whether or not it's correct.  in Patchage the pod doesn't seem to want to connect to anythign but ardour's control/mcu/seq channels17:02
khanfusedwhich I think (from what I read) those three and the POD are considered alsa sources (green highlight)17:02
zequencekhanfused: Those are not audio signals17:02
khanfuseddidn't think so17:03
zequencekhanfused: So, you're probably connecting its midi interface17:03
zequencekhanfused: Usually, the audio interface is called System17:03
khanfusedcapture 1 and capture 217:03
khanfused(for system)17:03
zequenceThose would be inputs17:03
zequenceso, connect one or both captures to ardours inputs17:04
khanfusedand doing that gave me VU on the master channel17:04
zequencedependning if you'll be recording stereo or not. Pods have stereo FX, which is why you'd sometimes want to do that17:04
khanfusedI only dropped one guitar track down in ardour -- I assume that's why I have only one ardour guitar input17:05
zequencekhanfused: In Ardour, create a new channel. Then, connect your Pod to that channel17:05
zequencethe more channels you add to ardour, the more inputs it'll get17:05
zequenceI gotta go, but I'm sure you'll get the hang of it. good luck17:06
khanfusedthanks!17:06
studio-user966hi there :-)21:06
studio-user966i try Ubuntustudio so here i am :-)21:07
studio-user966it is installing ... hahaha while i am here and watch The Big Bangtheory :D21:08
studio-user966as we know Ubuntu is Sheldons favoritedistribution21:08
SunStari did not know that21:09
studio-user966but does say that in S3 '321:14
studio-user966but does say that in S3 '2221:14
SunStari only watch when im too lazy to turn the channel  :P21:16
zequenceWho's Sheldon?21:31
SunStara character on TV's The Big Bang Theory21:33

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