[05:56] <khanfused> Can anyone assist with either some advice in JACK configuration, or a pointer to a well written *recent* guide?  I have a Line6 PodXT live (digital guitar amp) that I'm trying to get USB-plugged into my machine (ubuntu 12.10 w/ustudio ) so that the guitar signal shows up in Ardour. (cont)
[05:57] <khanfused> Through various experiments I've managed to get the guitar signal to show up on Ardour's VU meters ... but it doesn't hit the recording track, and (more importantly) I don't hear the guitar through the monitors/system speakers
[06:01] <SunStar> while you wait for some 1 who knows this stufff, you can also try in #jack and #opensourcemusicians
[06:01] <khanfused> cool, thanks
[14:38] <Edmund> Hi Guys can anyone tell me how to install "kompozer" formally knows as "UNV"
[14:39] <smartboyhw> Edmund, sudo apt-get install kompozer?
[14:39] <zequence> Is it in the repo?
[14:40] <zequence> apt-cache search kompozer
[14:40] <zequence> It's possible to download and install manually http://www.kompozer.net/
[14:40] <Edmund> It not in the repo and I tried  sudo apt-get install kompozer which gives me : Reading package lists... Done
[14:40] <Edmund> Building dependency tree
[14:40] <Edmund> Reading state information... Done
[14:40] <Edmund> E: Unable to locate package kompozer
[14:43] <zequence> Edmund: You can download from their site, then unpack the tar file anywhere, and run the binary "kompozer"
[14:43] <zequence> It has some dependencies though
[14:43] <Edmund> Doesn't work and no clue is given about missing whatever...
[14:44] <zequence> google is your friend too http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=484165
[14:44] <smartboyhw> !lmgtfy
[14:44] <smartboyhw> zequence, ^ :P
[14:44] <zequence> http://www.getdeb.net/updates/Ubuntu/10.04/?q=kompozer
[14:45] <zequence> smartboyhw: I guess you didn't notice I also answered his question, while I told him how I found the answer
[14:46] <smartboyhw> zequence, reminder only:)
[14:46] <zequence> smartboyhw: Please, don't remind me
[14:46] <smartboyhw> ....
[14:46] <Edmund> done all that, doest't work!
[14:47] <smartboyhw> Edmund, :O
[14:47] <zequence> Edmund: The package is meant for Ubuntu 10.04, but it may work on newer
[14:47] <Edmund> I want it on unbuntustudio ( beta2 )
[14:55] <zequence> Edmund: I'm looking up the dependencies, hold on
[14:59] <zequence> It's claiming that a dependency is missing, even when it isn't
[14:59] <smartboyhw> zequence, which?
[15:00] <zequence> smartboyhw: Are you also looking at this?
[15:00] <smartboyhw> zequence, no. I'm helping out the UbuntuKylin guys to understand the difficult administration of the ISO QA Tracker:P
[15:00] <zequence> Then why ask?
[15:01] <smartboyhw> zequence, I rather think the app set the install location wrong
[15:01] <smartboyhw> For example, it looks at the dependency like /opt/bin/zequence, but actually it is in /usr/bin/zequence, etc.
[15:01] <smartboyhw> Maybe
[15:02] <zequence> smartboyhw: It's trying to find a runtime library, and yes, probably looking in the wrong place
[15:04] <smartboyhw> zequence, Edmund what happened is that somebody requested removal of kompozer in 12.10
[15:04] <smartboyhw> and of course, 13.04
[15:04] <smartboyhw> zequence, I rather would want to download https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+files/kompozer_0.8%7Eb3.dfsg.1-0.1ubuntu2_amd64.deb and dpkg -i it
[15:04] <smartboyhw> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kompozer
[15:05] <smartboyhw> Edmund, ^
[15:06] <smartboyhw> At least that's a 12.04 binary
[15:06] <smartboyhw> For reference: Bug 1065547
[15:06] <smartboyhw> It's actually reported by micahg:O
[15:11] <zequence> It's no longer maintained in Debian. That is why it's removed
[15:11] <zequence> I think my problem has to do with this being a 64bit system
[15:12] <smartboyhw> multiarch!!!!
[15:12] <smartboyhw> LOL
[15:14] <zequence> I can confirm that installing the .deb packages smartboyhw linked to will work
[15:14] <smartboyhw> zequence, \o/
[15:15] <zequence> Edmund: Download and install in this order https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+files/kompozer-data_0.8%7Eb3.dfsg.1-0.1ubuntu2_all.deb
[15:15] <zequence> Edmund: If 64bit https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+files/kompozer_0.8%7Eb3.dfsg.1-0.1ubuntu2_amd64.deb
[15:15] <zequence> Edmund: if 32bit https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+files/kompozer_0.8%7Eb3.dfsg.1-0.1ubuntu2_i386.deb
[15:16] <zequence> The command to install from command line is: sudo dpkg -i <packagename>
[15:17] <zequence> Edmund: Actually, you might want to start with: sudo apt-get install libatk1.0-0 libc6 libcairo2 libfontconfig1 libfreetype6 libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0 libglib2.0-0 libgtk2.0-0 libidl0 libnspr4 libnss3 libpango1.0-0 libpng12-0 libstdc++6 libx11-6 libxft2 libxinerama1 libxrender1 libxt6 zlib1g
[15:17] <zequence> Then download and install the two packages
[16:00] <Edmund> Now I get :
[16:00] <Edmund>  sudo dpkg -i kompozer_0.8~b3.dfsg.1-0.1ubuntu2_amd64.deb
[16:00] <Edmund> Selecting previously unselected package kompozer.
[16:00] <Edmund> (Reading database ... 311978 files and directories currently installed.)
[16:00] <Edmund> Unpacking kompozer (from kompozer_0.8~b3.dfsg.1-0.1ubuntu2_amd64.deb) ...
[16:00] <Edmund> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of kompozer:
[16:00] <Edmund>  kompozer depends on kompozer-data; however:
[16:00] <Edmund>   Package kompozer-data is not installed.
[16:00] <Edmund> dpkg: error processing kompozer (--install):
[16:00] <Edmund>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[16:00] <Edmund> Processing triggers for menu ...
[16:00] <Edmund> Processing triggers for man-db ...
[16:00] <smartboyhw> Edmund, install kompozer-data first
[16:00] <Edmund> Processing triggers for bamfdaemon ...
[16:00] <Edmund> Rebuilding /usr/share/applications/bamf-2.index...
[16:00] <Edmund> Processing triggers for desktop-file-utils ...
[16:00] <Edmund> Processing triggers for gnome-menus ...
[16:00] <Edmund> Errors were encountered while processing:
[16:00] <Edmund>  kompozer
[16:00] <smartboyhw> !paste | Edmund
[16:00] <smartboyhw> Edmund, install the -data first
[16:01] <smartboyhw> Then install the main thing
[16:02] <zequence> Edmund: Read the whole text I wrote. Start with the dependencies, then install the packages in the right order
[16:02] <zequence> Edmund: At this point, you might want to start with fixing your apt: sudo apt-get install -f
[16:03] <zequence> Edmund: Then the dependencies: sudo apt-get install libatk1.0-0 libc6 libcairo2 libfontconfig1 libfreetype6 libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0 libglib2.0-0 libgtk2.0-0  libidl0 libnspr4 libnss3 libpango1.0-0 libpng12-0 libstdc++6 libx11-6 libxft2 libxinerama1 libxrender1 libxt6 zlib1g
[16:03] <zequence> And then the packages - in the right order
[16:08] <Edmund> Wowie, Thank you guys! I can open kompozer, great!
[16:08] <smartboyhw> Edmund, zequence \o/
[16:14] <is_null> hi all, if i just want to use ardour then i might as well install ubuntu and setup jack2 myself ? or is there anything else that ubuntu studio provides ?
[16:15] <zequence> is_null: Add yourself to audio group, in order to get realtime privilege
[16:16] <zequence> is_null: Also, if you require low latency, install linux-lowlatency
[16:16] <zequence> is_null: Of course, you also need to answer "yes", when asked about realtime prio when installing jackd
[16:17] <is_null> thanks zequence, so ubuntu + a low latency kernel + jack2 is as good as ubuntu studio for ardour ?
[16:18] <smartboyhw> is_null: well yes
[16:18] <zequence> smartboyhw: He was asking me
[16:18] <is_null> ah ok, thanks
[16:18] <zequence> is_null: And adding yourself to audio group
[16:19] <zequence> is_null: Also, we have swappiness turned down to 10. It's at 60 by default
[16:20] <zequence> is_null: You can adjust swappiness in /etc/sysctl.conf
[16:33] <khanfused> I'd asked last night - but fell off line and couldn't see if anyone answered -- Can anyone assist with either some advice in JACK configuration, or a pointer to a well written *recent* guide?   I have a Line6 PodXT live (digital guitar amp) that I'm trying to get USB-plugged into my machine (ubuntu 12.10 w/ustudio ) so that the guitar signal shows up in Ardour. (cont)
[16:34] <khanfused> rough various experiments I've managed to get the guitar signal to show up on Ardour's VU meters ... but it doesn't hit the recording track, and (more importantly) I don't hear the guitar through the monitors/system speakers (the important part right now -- some day I'll actually buy an amp with speakers :-)  )
[16:43] <zequence> khanfused: Could you do this in a terminal, and post the results on http://paste.ubuntu.com: cat /proc/asound/cards
[16:44] <zequence> Then post the link here
[16:45] <khanfused> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5724947/
[16:46] <zequence> khanfused: So, this is the ID name for your USB device "PODxtLive". We'll use that later
[16:46] <zequence> khanfused: How do you usually start jack?
[16:47] <khanfused> I re-did the experiments (mostly by noodling my way through) today.  I either start up qjackCtl or Patchage, and that starts the jack services
[16:47] <khanfused> today it's patchage -- in both cases I've had accidental successes, but today patchage has me getting signal to Ardour's master channel. (That could be me being a n00b about patching/setup)
[16:47] <zequence> khanfused: problem with starting patchage, if jack isn't running, is that it will start jackd, while qjackctl with default settings will start jackdbus, so you'll have two jacks running
[16:47] <khanfused> ... ah
[16:48] <khanfused> I have the 1 running - jackd
[16:48] <khanfused> just checked
[16:48] <zequence> khanfused: I'd use qjackctl to start jack, and then if you prefer patchage, start it afterwards
[16:48] <zequence> or, let me check patchage..
[16:49] <zequence> khanfused: patchage will read your settings in ~/.jackdrc
[16:50] <zequence> khanfused: Could you post the results from: cat ~/.jackdrc
[16:50] <zequence> It's just one line
[16:50] <khanfused> /usr/bin/jackd -p 128 -R -P 60 -T -d alsa -n 2 -r 44100 -p 1024 -d hw:1,0
[16:53] <zequence> khanfused: Close patchage, then kill jack: killall jackd
[16:53] <khanfused> done
[16:53] <khanfused> and of course ardour complains about losing its friend :-)
[16:53] <zequence> khanfused: Then, replace "hw:1,0" with "hw:PODxtLive", without the quotes, and make sure you add hw:
[16:54] <zequence> in .jackdrc
[16:54] <zequence> or, to test it directly from the terminal: jackd -d alsa -d hw:PODxtLive
[16:55] <khanfused> file edited
[16:55] <zequence> khanfused: The order of the cards may change at each boot, so when you start patchage, there's no saying which card is started, if the .jackdrc says hw:1
[16:56] <zequence> khanfused: Try the command first, to see if jack will start: jackd -d alsa -d hw:PODxtLive
[16:56] <khanfused> want a pastebin of the results?
[16:56] <zequence> khanfused: Not if it worked
[16:57] <khanfused> seemed to
[16:57] <khanfused> none of the outputs screamed 'error'
[16:57] <zequence> If it didn't stop, it worked
[16:57] <zequence> You can shut it down with Ctrl+C
[16:57] <zequence> khanfused: So, now, patchage will always start jack with your usb device
[16:59] <zequence> khanfused: As for getting a signal into Ardour, you just need to make sure your Line6 is connected to the correct Ardour input. You can do that in patchage, or Qjackctl -> Connect
[17:00] <zequence> khanfused: btw, if you want qjackctl to also start hw:PODxtLive, you'll need to add it manually to Qjackctl -> Setup -> "Interface"
[17:01] <zequence> khanfused: And about monitoring. One easy way is to just connect your System input to your System output
[17:01] <zequence> khanfused: All though, you can set monitoring in Ardour too. I haven't yet tried it, but it's usually not too complicated once you find the right buttons or settings
[17:02] <khanfused> 'finding the right settings' seems to be the fun part :-) ... still trying to recreate what I did in patchage earlier -- whether or not it's correct.  in Patchage the pod doesn't seem to want to connect to anythign but ardour's control/mcu/seq channels
[17:02] <khanfused> which I think (from what I read) those three and the POD are considered alsa sources (green highlight)
[17:02] <zequence> khanfused: Those are not audio signals
[17:03] <khanfused> didn't think so
[17:03] <zequence> khanfused: So, you're probably connecting its midi interface
[17:03] <zequence> khanfused: Usually, the audio interface is called System
[17:03] <khanfused> capture 1 and capture 2
[17:03] <khanfused> (for system)
[17:03] <zequence> Those would be inputs
[17:04] <zequence> so, connect one or both captures to ardours inputs
[17:04] <khanfused> and doing that gave me VU on the master channel
[17:04] <zequence> dependning if you'll be recording stereo or not. Pods have stereo FX, which is why you'd sometimes want to do that
[17:05] <khanfused> I only dropped one guitar track down in ardour -- I assume that's why I have only one ardour guitar input
[17:05] <zequence> khanfused: In Ardour, create a new channel. Then, connect your Pod to that channel
[17:05] <zequence> the more channels you add to ardour, the more inputs it'll get
[17:06] <zequence> I gotta go, but I'm sure you'll get the hang of it. good luck
[17:06] <khanfused> thanks!
[21:06] <studio-user966> hi there :-)
[21:07] <studio-user966> i try Ubuntustudio so here i am :-)
[21:08] <studio-user966> it is installing ... hahaha while i am here and watch The Big Bangtheory :D
[21:08] <studio-user966> as we know Ubuntu is Sheldons favoritedistribution
[21:09] <SunStar> i did not know that
[21:14] <studio-user966> but does say that in S3 '3
[21:14] <studio-user966> but does say that in S3 '22
[21:16] <SunStar> i only watch when im too lazy to turn the channel  :P
[21:31] <zequence> Who's Sheldon?
[21:33] <SunStar> a character on TV's The Big Bang Theory