[00:17] <Noskcaj> is there a remote access program in xubuntu?
[00:25] <Chaser> Noskcaj, for RDP ? there is remmina for remote desktop client.
[00:28] <Noskcaj> Chaser, ok, ty
[00:29] <David-A> Noskcaj: for SSH there is openssh-server
[00:30] <David-A> Noskcaj: an alternative to remmina is vinagre
[00:31] <Unit193> And remmina uses rdesktop or freerdp as a backend.  Pretty sure Vinagre comes by default.
[00:36] <Noskcaj> ok, thanks guys. when my install finishes i'll look into those
[00:38] <David-A> Noskcaj: I also think vinagre is installed by default. just look in the menu for Network>Remote Desktop Viewer
[03:56] <xubuntu862> brasiç
[04:56] <rmarker> how  do i get dvd decryption?
[05:06] <Unit193> !dvd | rmarker
[05:20] <bullgard4> I did a distribution-upgrade to Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS. Then I installed the DEB program package »xubuntu-desktop«., logged out and logged in to »Xfce Session«. Now I have Xubuntu . In mc the letters are too small. How should I enlarge (scale up) the letters in mc?
[05:30] <packetfrog> mc
[05:30] <packetfrog> ?
[05:43] <bullgard4> packetfrog: mc stands for "Midnight Commander".
[05:50] <packetfrog> change the font size in your term
[06:07] <bullgard4> packetfrog: This is GNOME-Terminal  3.4.1.1 here. How can I change its font size?
[06:11] <packetfrog> http://askubuntu.com/questions/58379/how-can-i-permanently-change-the-text-size-for-gnome-terminal
[06:11] <packetfrog> bullgard4,
[06:17] <bullgard4> packetfrog: This worked. Thank you very much for your help.
[06:21] <packetfrog> bullgard4, no worries :)
[06:21]  * packetfrog waves to sunstar
[07:20] <bullgard4> I did a dist-upgrade to Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS, Thunar 1.2.3 > Edit > Settings... > Filemanager Settings > Display > (Default View) > Open Default View with: Detail view. How can I persuade Thunar to show the files in Detail view?
[07:47] <bullgard4> [solved]
[09:32] <florentin> can i have some help with activation nvidia driver for xubuntu ,i install the driver but when i try to open settings i have this:You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver.  Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server.
[09:33] <florentin> can i have some help with activation nvidia driver for xubuntu ,i install the driver but when i try to open settings i have this:You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver.  Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server.
[09:33] <packetfrog> Did you do what it says?
[09:34] <florentin> yes
[09:34] <florentin> and i have an error
[09:34] <packetfrog> what error
[09:34] <florentin> WARNING: Unable to locate/open X configuration file.
[09:34] <florentin> ERROR: Unable to write to directory '/etc/X11'.
[09:34] <florentin> this
[09:34] <packetfrog> sudo nvidia-xconfig
[09:35] <packetfrog> try that
[09:35] <packetfrog> unable to open/write to/read/whatever is generally because you are not using sudo
[09:35] <florentin> Using X configuration file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf".
[09:35] <florentin> Backed up file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' as '/etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup'
[09:35] <florentin> New X configuration file written to '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[09:36] <florentin> and now ?!
[09:36] <packetfrog> restart and see how it goes
[09:36] <packetfrog> Come back and let me know if it works
[11:08] <florentin> i can't start compiz in xubuntu 12.10 someonea have a direct profile ?! please
[11:33] <packetfrog> lar lar
[11:37] <elfy> anyone awake in here - got an issue driving me nuts, sometimes I start up to find wallpaper is only on one of my monitors - at some odd resolution, have to logout and login to make it on both screens - used arandr to setup screens - that appears to work fine, tried xfdesktop --reload - no difference
[11:37] <packetfrog> :>
[11:37] <packetfrog> It never works on my desktop
[11:37] <packetfrog> Unless I set to to cover both screens with one image and it looks like crap.
[11:38] <elfy> works fine on mine when I logout/in
[11:39] <packetfrog> I never bother to play with it, I only use my monitor on its side for pdf's and what not
[11:39] <elfy> so - can you help or not?
[11:40] <packetfrog> Install nitrogen?
[11:41] <elfy> default things should do the job
[11:47] <packetfrog> Everything I keep reading is saying install something    so obviously default does not work for many people and they dont share how :P
[11:48] <elfy> ok - I could go with that if it NEVER set the wallpaper properly - as it is maybe 3 out of 10 boots fails to show them :)
[11:48] <elfy> so something default is working sometimes :)
[11:56] <packetfrog> elfy: Was not arguing. I know your right. :)
[11:56] <elfy> I didn't think you were :)
[11:57] <elfy> just one of those really annoying things :|
[11:57]  * packetfrog offers some tea and cigarettes
[11:57] <elfy> ty lol
[12:35] <elfy> packetfrog: calling the script from lightdm.conf now - I'll see what happens now
[12:43]  * packetfrog keeps fingers crossed for elfy.
[13:22] <ochosi> elfy: i've recently been using xfdesktop from git – there were quite some improvements, also wrt multi-monitor-support. works quite well so far
[13:22] <elfy> excellent
[13:23] <ochosi> it's still in a separate branch, but will most likely be merged to git-master next week
[13:23] <elfy> in general I've no issues - just this annoying intermittent one :)
[13:23] <ochosi> it's really only good news if you're not afraid of compiling yourself :)
[13:23] <elfy> lol
[13:28] <packetfrog> ;/
[16:12] <aiena> HOw do you execute a python script from command line in xubnutu with root priviledges ?
[16:12] <aiena> *How
[16:14] <harvi> try " sudo python <script.py>  ... dont know If it works I dont use it :/
[16:15] <harvi> or try" sudo su" to get root rights  and then " python <script.py>" ... maybe it will work
[16:19] <aiena> thanks !
[16:19] <aiena> harvi: do you know how to install grofract in xubuntu ?
[16:19] <aiena> I have been trying !!
[16:20] <baizon> aiena: http://sourceforge.net/projects/gnofract4d/files/gnofract4d/3.14.1/
[16:20] <baizon> there you just chose the right deb file
[16:21] <aiena> i chse the right file I tried it
[16:22] <harvi> aiena: grofract have .deb package. see http://sourceforge.net/projects/gnofract4d/
[16:22] <aiena> it opens up the ubuntu software center as gives a dependency is not satisfied python <2.7
[16:22] <aiena> baizon: that mode does not work
[16:22] <aiena> I tried to figure out the dependency
[16:22] <aiena> python is installed
[16:23] <aiena> and it is 2.7 I think
[16:23] <baizon> aiena: have you tried sudo apt-get install -f
[16:23] <aiena> I'll try
[16:23] <harvi> or try to download this. http://sourceforge.net/projects/gnofract4d/files/gnofract4d/3.12/gnofract4d-python26_3.12-1ubuntu1_i386.deb/download
[16:24] <baizon> harvi: why using an old version?
[16:24] <aiena> baizon: I tried sudo apt-get install gnofract4d_3.14.1_amd64.deb -f
[16:24] <baizon> of course, if hes using xubuntu older than 12.04 that would make sense then
[16:24] <aiena> after cding to the directory
[16:25] <baizon> aiena: i didnt wrote that
[16:25] <aiena> cd 'ing
[16:25] <baizon> write sudo apt-get install -f
[16:25] <harvi> damn.. thats 3.12 ..sry my bad
[16:25] <aiena> ouch I thought xubuntu 12.04 comes with python 2.x
[16:26] <baizon> does it want to remove the  gnofract4d pkg?
[16:26] <aiena> seems like itys updated to 3.2 (:
[16:26] <baizon> aiena: it also have python2.7
[16:26] <aiena> no
[16:26] <aiena> baizon: it said 3.2 was installed
[16:26] <harvi> it has python 2.7.3 but gnofract want 2.6
[16:26] <aiena> but is not needed
[16:26] <aiena> harvi: yes
[16:26] <baizon> aiena: yes, http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/python2.7
[16:27] <aiena> baizon: IS IT POSSIBLE TO DOWNGRADE TO 2.6.X
[16:27] <aiena> sorry for the caps
[16:27] <baizon> aiena: what gave the install -f command?
[16:27] <baizon> what was the result?
[16:28] <aiena> baizon http://pastebin.com/QiFxrZTm
[16:30] <baizon> aiena: ok try then: 1. cd to the  gnofract4d_3.14.1_amd64.deb file, 2. run sudo dpkg -i gnofract4d_3.14.1_amd64.deb, 3. run sudo apt-get install -f
[16:31] <harvi> baizon: how about using .....  sudo dpkg -i --force-all <package>
[16:31] <baizon> harvi: or this, yes
[16:32] <aiena> baizon: If I run harvi's command is it safe ?
[16:32] <baizon> aiena: if this doesnt work, show the result in pastebin please
[16:32] <aiena> in that case step 3 will not be needed right
[16:32] <baizon> aiena: yes
[16:32] <harvi> aiena: it is the same think.
[16:34] <harvi> i saw few posts but I havent find solution for this :/ ... but maybe downgrading python will work. Some of them tried to install 2 python versions in diferent folders with symlinks but it doesnt work
[16:35] <aiena> baizon it failed here is the second command output http://pastebin.com/CzXdmsTHon running sudo apt-get install -fit ask me to remove gnofract
[16:35] <baizon> aiena: wrong pastebin url
[16:36] <aiena> http://pastebin.com/CzXdmsTH
[16:36] <aiena> on running sudo apt-get install -f it ask me to remove gnofract
[16:36] <baizon> aiena: well then install python 2.6
[16:37] <baizon> aiena: install it from here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/125342/how-can-i-install-python-2-6-on-12-04
[16:37] <harvi> hmm.. downgrade python to 2.6 and install libjpeg62 too
[16:37] <aiena> so shoud I say yes to the output of sudo apt-get install -f
[16:37] <baizon> aiena: then try again
[16:38] <aiena> baizon: should I say yes to http://pastebin.com/xt9CvFmS before proceeding to downgrade to 2.6 ?
[16:39] <baizon> aiena: yes
[16:39] <aiena> that would automatically install libjpeg62 for me
[16:39] <baizon> aiena: yes, thats ok
[16:39] <aiena> I know
[16:39] <harvi> yes remove gnofract and libjpeg62 you dont need to install because it will be installed automatically
[16:40] <baizon> aiena: then add the python 2.6 ppa, install python 2.6 and try again the 3 steps i wrote (or 2 harvi wrote)
[16:45] <aiena> ok
[16:49] <aiena> Baizon same errors are coming !! I ran sudo-apt-get install -f to cleanup
[16:50] <aiena> * baizon
[16:50] <baizon> aiena: have you installed python 2.6?
[16:50] <aiena> yes
[16:50] <aiena> how do I verify
[16:51] <aiena> it wont list in synaptics
[16:51] <aiena> but it is installed
[16:52] <aiena> baizon: http://pastebin.com/VQCb6j7n
[16:52] <aiena> I think that log shows its installed
[16:53] <baizon> aiena: yes it is
[16:54] <baizon> but whats happening when you try to install your program?
[16:54] <aiena> I will show you
[16:54] <aiena> I have cleaned up before
[16:54] <aiena> with sudo apt-get install -f
[16:54] <aiena> so I will just re run
[16:55] <aiena> baizon: http://pastebin.com/umUCXGPM
[16:56] <baizon> aiena: try uninstalling python2.7
[16:56] <baizon> then again
[16:56] <aiena> yes there could be a conflict
[16:57] <aiena> baizon: synaptics says I have 1 broken package
[16:57] <aiena> One sec
[16:57] <aiena> I know which
[16:57] <baizon> ok :)
[16:58] <aiena> it was gnofract
[16:58] <aiena> the odd thing is synaptics does not list python 2.7
[16:58] <aiena> or the tick mark
[16:58] <aiena> si I cant purge/remove it from there
[16:58] <aiena> which command to run ?
[16:59] <aiena> *so
[16:59] <aiena> *can't
[16:59] <baizon> aiena: you dont need to remove it
[16:59] <baizon> use this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/14615/how-do-i-make-the-terminal-run-python-3-1/14624#14624
[17:00] <aiena> baizon: sudo update-alternatives --config python
[17:00] <aiena> update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for python.
[17:00] <aiena> it list that there are no alternatives - odd
[17:01] <aiena> the second line is the output
[17:03] <baizon> aiena: ou well the devs have a solution for the problem... http://sourceforge.net/p/gnofract4d/discussion/2319/thread/067884db
[17:05] <baizon> aiena: and read this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1929398
[17:06] <baizon> ok, i'm out.
[17:09] <Peyam> I will make a theme for xubuntu
[17:09] <aiena> cool !!
[17:09] <aiena> Tell me when you are done :)
[17:09] <aiena> I would love to see it
[17:09] <aiena> and maybe test it
[17:09] <Peyam> I dont know how I do it
[17:09] <Peyam> I mean how to set it upp but im good at graphics
[17:10] <Peyam> I will download one theme
[17:10] <Peyam> and follow
[17:11] <packetfrog> Make it a frog theme!
[17:11] <packetfrog> frogs are best
[17:11] <Peyam> frog?
[17:11] <Peyam> what is that
[17:12] <packetfrog> katak
[17:12] <Peyam> I dont know what that is
[17:13] <packetfrog> groda?
[17:13] <packetfrog> жаба
[17:13] <Peyam> ja but what do you mean?
[17:14] <TheSheep> Ding dong. We interrupt this chat to remind you, that there is an excellent #xubuntu-offtopic channel for non-support chat specially for your own convenience. Thank you. Ding dong.
[17:14] <aiena> Peyam: http://static.ddmcdn.com/gif/frog-1.jpg and http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/be/Red_eyed_tree_frog_edit2.jpg for example
[17:14] <packetfrog> thesheep OMG IS THERE?
[17:14] <Peyam> I know what a frog is
[17:14] <aiena> OK !!
[17:14] <Peyam> but what does frog-theme look like
[17:15] <aiena> He is asking you to make a frog theme :)
[17:15] <aiena> Your the designer
[17:15] <aiena> do you want me to make a proof of concept ?
[17:15] <Peyam> my good
[17:15] <Peyam> goooooooooood
[17:15] <aiena> I can design a roughversion
[17:15] <aiena> for you
[17:15] <aiena> then you can get ideas :)
[17:15] <aiena> if you wish
[17:15] <aiena> *rough version
[17:15] <TheSheep> ekhem
[17:16] <packetfrog> watch out its an explosive sheep!
[17:16] <packetfrog> herd :/
[17:16] <aiena> TheSheep: is this channel only for support ?
[17:16] <TheSheep> aiena: yes
[17:16] <aiena> ouch OK
[17:16] <aiena> Peyam: gthen we shalt shift
[17:16] <TheSheep> aiena: no problem :)
[17:16] <packetfrog> Yes, So it must remain DEAD. VOID of all conversation. Or else it gets in the way of the immense amount of support going on.
[17:17] <aiena> packetfrog: these small chats add life and fun even in an on topic chgannel waht is important is that we do not interrupt a person seeking support in the process
[17:18] <aiena> *what
[17:18] <aiena> *channel
[17:18] <aiena> I don't think I am doing that
[17:18] <aiena> but lets raise the white flag !!:)
[17:18] <packetfrog> aiena, I was being entirely - overly - extremely sarcastic.
[17:19] <packetfrog> GridCube, Welcome to #Xubuntu support, How may the channel support you today?
[17:19] <aiena> packetfrog: I see !!
[17:19] <bekks> packetfrog: Hand him a beer, first :)
[17:20]  * packetfrog hands GridCube a frost "Dead guy ale".
[17:21] <GridCube> packetfrog, :) hi
[17:31] <posdifu> exit
[17:31] <posdifu> exit
[17:31] <posdifu> ups sorry :)
[17:31] <packetfrog> lar
[20:28] <kAworu_> hi !
[20:28] <kAworu> I've just installed xubuntu (12.10) and it works like a charm (I'm even able to run i3 as wm which is kind of incredible).
[20:30] <kAworu> Now I have a very simple problem. When thunar is mounting my external hdd (two ext4 partitions) I cannot write.
[20:31] <kAworu> They're not mounted ro they just seems to have been mounted by root
[20:39] <holstein> !chown | kAworu
[20:40] <holstein> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingANewHardDrive specifically the parts about permissions
[20:45] <Poisoned_Dragon> Does anyone have a firm understanding of the composting features of xfce?
[20:46] <kAworu> holstein: thanks
[20:48] <holstein> Poisoned_Dragon: AFAIK, its software compositing... meaning you dont need special hardware/drivers
[20:49] <Poisoned_Dragon> heh, I should have been more specific from the start. It's not a question about hardware or drivers.
[20:49] <Poisoned_Dragon> I have an issue with running java apps on xfce while composting is on.
[20:50] <holstein> Poisoned_Dragon: just turn it off...
[20:51] <holstein> Poisoned_Dragon: you can try other java versions.. but, yeah, you could run into issues
[20:52] <Poisoned_Dragon> Ugh... I was hoping that "turn it off" wasn't going to be the only solution. I'm using openjdk 7 jre. it happens in java 6 and 7.
[20:55] <kAworu> holstein: it worked indeed. I did not expect it to work because the /media/myuser/bla directories are created when auto-mounted and deleted when umounted
[20:55] <Poisoned_Dragon> well yea. That's what gvfs-mount does
[20:56] <kAworu> holstein: may I ask which process is responsible for this auto-mounting magic ?
[20:56] <holstein> gvfs i though ^^
[20:58] <kAworu> holstein: That was my first guess too but it seems that all the gvfs process (my god there are so many) are running under myuser
[20:58] <Poisoned_Dragon> yeah, gvfs
[20:58] <Poisoned_Dragon> are we talking about removable drives?
[20:59] <kAworu> Poisoned_Dragon: yes
[20:59] <Poisoned_Dragon> You can disable auto-mounting in the settings manager, under removable devices
[21:00] <kAworu> Poisoned_Dragon: thanks for the info, but I am not trying to prevent auto mounting
[21:00] <kAworu> I'm just trying to understand.
[21:00] <Poisoned_Dragon> Oh, ok. Just wanted to know how it worked.
[21:01] <Poisoned_Dragon> well, outside of the system doing it for me, I can use gvfs-mount, in terminal to manually add and remove mounts.
[21:01] <Poisoned_Dragon> Less messy than making a directory and using mount.
[21:01] <kAworu> Poisoned_Dragon: my original problem is already solved (thank to holstein's hint about chown), however the solution surprise me so I'm trying to understand.
[21:02] <Poisoned_Dragon> chown? doesn't that change ownerships?
[21:02] <kAworu> Poisoned_Dragon: yes. It seems that if you chown a directory auto-mounted by gvfs, say /media/myuser/usbdrive0 it will be preserved accross mounts / reboot
[21:03] <kAworu> Poisoned_Dragon: although the directory itself will be removed when umounted.
[21:03] <Poisoned_Dragon> I think the runlevel of gvfs allows it to make changes regardless of permissions.
[21:04] <kAworu> (I come from FreeBSD and those magic tricks make me curious ;)
[21:05] <Poisoned_Dragon> The closest experience I have to some level of BSD is Mac OSX. By that point, you rarely get to see what's behind the gui.
[21:08] <Poisoned_Dragon> ok, holstein. Here's the specifics to my problem. It seems that java apps, that place a notification icon in the notifications tray, create a graphical glitch in the upper left hand corner of the screen, while composting is enabled.
[21:08] <Poisoned_Dragon> java apps that don't use the notification tray, don't exhibit this kind of graphical behavior.
[21:23] <kAworu> Poisoned_Dragon, holstein: alright, if you care here is how the auto-mount magic works:
[21:24] <kAworu> thunar use gvfs-mount, which use udevd through DBUS
[21:24] <kAworu> udisksd sorry, not udevd.
[23:26] <rmarker> is there a way to play Blu-Ray with Xubuntu?
[23:27] <SunStar> install the non-free codecs
[23:27] <SunStar> from software center
[23:35] <rmarker> can't find it
[23:52] <packetfrog> SunStar, arent blueray more complicated then that?
[23:55] <peyam> Hi
[23:55] <peyam> I want to change the color of the menu bar?
[23:55] <peyam> whre the icon and time is located
[23:55] <peyam> I want it to be black
[23:55] <peyam> How do I change the color?
[23:56] <packetfrog> Right click on it
[23:56] <packetfrog> find the properties menu, appearance.. yadda   its in there
[23:56] <packetfrog> im on windows atm so cant check it
[23:56] <peyam> appreace?
[23:57] <peyam> whre
[23:57] <packetfrog> one sec
[23:57] <peyam> I founf it
[23:58] <packetfrog> You can also access panel preferences by right clicking on your panel and going to Panel Settings. If you right click on space occupied by a panel plugin, you can access panel preferences by going to Panel → Panel Preferences....
[23:58] <packetfrog> oic
[23:58] <peyam> yes
[23:58] <peyam> I fixed it
[23:58] <packetfrog> Then appearance  and color or transparent  yadda
[23:58] <peyam> yes yes
[23:58] <peyam> I found it :)
[23:58]  * packetfrog claps
[23:58] <packetfrog> I knew you could do it, I had faith in you my friend.
[23:59] <peyam> And Im thanksfull :)