FrankieJhey, i originally installed ubuntu 12.04 LTS but recently install lubuntu - desktop because the gui takes less resources, how do i enable it to boot into lubuntu instead of regular ubuntu's compiz?01:00
KorbitI'm trying to reset my user and root passwords, but passwd throws the error "Authentication token manipulation error". / is mounted as read/write. I've tried pwunconv, pwconv, and pwck. Permissions on /etc/passwd, /etc/shadow, and /usr/bin/passwd are all proper/correct. This is on Lubuntu 12.04. How can I fix this error without format/reinstall?01:40
holsteinKorbit: there are no root passwords or accounts02:39
ubottuDo not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo02:39
holsteinKorbit: what are you trying to do? reset a user password?02:39
Korbitholstein: Yes, and in doing so (after a very long day/week) I ended up breaking my root account so when I try to use the root recovery console it asks for a password.02:43
KorbitSo the only way I can access my system is through the passwordless root prompt02:43
KorbitThankfully, I have a current backup of my /home/ directory, but I refuse to format/reinstall if at all possible.02:45
holsteinKorbit: thre is no root account02:45
holsteinKorbit: ?02:45
holsteinKorbit: its not. there really is no rot account like that02:46
KorbitRoot exists, whether you call it an account or not I don't care.02:46
holsteinKorbit: there is no password for an account called "root".. as the link above says02:46
KorbitThe point is, I've spent >30hours and 6 days trying to fix my user account and have only succeeded in making my problem worse.02:46
ubottusudo is a command to run command-line programs with superuser privileges ("root") (also see !cli). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (GNOME, Xfce), or !kdesudo (KDE). If you're unable to execute commands with sudo see: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo02:46
holsteinKorbit: it wil take about 8 minutes to install lubuntu and maybe 10 minutes to move the date back in place02:47
holsteinKorbit: start with what you did to "fix" the account02:47
KorbitAnd just what do I learn from doing that? What do I do if my password stops working again, and I continue to get the "authentication token manipulation error"? Do I just format and reinstall every time, never learning the cause or fix?02:49
holsteinKorbit: you come here *before* 'fixing' anything, and ask02:49
holsteinKorbit: you can elaborate about what all you have done trying to fix the account.. what account? the main user account? a sudoer?02:50
KorbitThis isn't my first day on the #ubuntu and #lubuntu ircs. I've gone over every fix there is on google (for my user account) before I ended up breaking root, and I don't remember exactly what I did to break root.02:51
holsteinKorbit: list what you have done, and a volunteer can help you figure out what you have done02:51
holsteinKorbit: what did you do?02:51
KorbitAs I said in my comment earlier, I've mounted / as rw, I checked the permissions on /etc/passwd, /etc/shadow, and /usr/bin/passwd. I tried pwunconv, pwconv, and pwck.02:53
KorbitI've checked log files to see if there were any errors around when my password stopped working and there was nothing unique02:53
holsteinKorbit: try starting at the beginning... what *all* have you done? do you remember?02:54
KorbitI was tired when I broke root, and I don't remember what I did, nor do I know if/where the log files for what I was doing are.02:54
KorbitI rebooted into the recovery console. Attempted to use passwd to change my user password. That gave me the error "Authentication token manipulation error". I remounted / as rw and tried again. Same error.02:56
holsteinKorbit: then, just reinstall.. in order for me, or another volunteer to help, you will need to give us *exactly* what you have dont02:56
KorbitThat was when I logged into the #ubuntu irc to ask for help02:56
holsteinKorbit: cool.. what help was given? there are logs.. you might find what you were told to do there02:57
KorbitWell, thanks for that. For another question, when / is mounted as rw in the recovery console is logging performed?02:57
holsteinif you log, it might be.. nothing special is happening02:58
holsteinif you use sudo or the recovery prompt, that *is* root02:58
holsteinthere is not a tradictional root account.. that is how you get access, and you can break what you like, and there doesnt have to be logs02:58
holsteinKorbit: can you get to tty?02:59
ubottuTo get to the TTY terminals 1-6, use the keystroke ctrl + alt + F1-F6 respectively (Alt+F7 will get you back to your graphical login).  To change the resolution for your TTY, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ChangeTTYResolution02:59
KorbitNo. I am in the passwordless root prompt as directed to access here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword03:00
holsteinKorbit: and you ran "mount -rw -o remount /" ?03:00
Korbityes, after every reboot.03:00
holsteinyou just need to do it once03:01
holsteinKorbit: and after that, you run "passwd username" and you get what error?03:02
KorbitAuthentication token manipulation error03:02
holsteinKorbit: what are the chances the date is incorrect on your box?03:03
holsteinor the permissions are bad on your /etc/shadow file ?03:03
KorbitI checked that several times. Date is correct. Permissions on /etc/shadow and /etc/passwd are correct03:03
holsteinKorbit: and adduser command?03:04
KorbitI also get the token error when I attempt to add a new user.03:04
holsteinKorbit: run this... adduser test, and give me the *exact* error03:05
Korbitpasswd: Authentication token manipulation error03:05
Korbitpasswd: password unchanged03:05
KorbitTry again? [y/N]03:06
holsteinKorbit: thats from "adduser" ?03:06
Korbity loops, N gives: "chfn: PAM authentication failed03:06
Korbitadduser: '/usr/bin/chfn test' returned error code 1. Exiting.03:07
Korbitthat's all from adduser03:07
holsteinKorbit: this looks like it? http://askubuntu.com/questions/222837/diagnose-and-fix-pam-configuration03:08
Korbityes, but it never asks for a password and it doesn't continue on after the error code 1 exiting line.03:09
holsteinKorbit: can you run apt-get update there? are there apt errors?03:10
KorbitApt-get fails to fetch any files. I think my networking isn't enabled right now.03:10
holsteinUnit193: any bright ideas?03:12
holsteini mean, i would just reinstall.. im not sure what the deal is, or what has happened, but this is one of the reasons why i have backups03:12
KorbitBefore, when I was still able to use the root recovery mode I was able to run apt-get update03:12
holsteincould be as simple as a failing hard drive03:12
holsteincorrupt file system...03:13
KorbitI've tried running fsck and it didn't show any errors03:13
holsteinwell, you have some kind of error03:13
holsteini see bugs about that issue, but they are old03:13
Unit193holstein: Haven't read much, been doing some stuff.  Live and chroot in if it isn't hardware?03:13
holsteinKorbit: wont hurt to chroot in, if you are dead set on "Fixing" it03:15
holsteinKorbit: you have looked at /var/log/auth.log ?03:15
holsteinlook there and share if you think its helpful and not personal03:15
KorbitThe only lines in there that look troublesome are occasionally repeated for several weeks, not just unique to the day that my password stopped working.03:17
KorbitPAM adding faulty module: pam_gnomekeyring.so03:17
csc`Will changing the root password affect anything negatively?05:31
csc`(from something other than default)05:31
naftilos76hi everyone, i just installed lubuntu on a usb flash memory. Everything went well. However when i restart my laptop and the boot sequence reaches the usb i get i message "no operating system found" which gives me the idea that i did something wrong with the installation of grub. As far as i remember i entered "/dev/sdc" which was as i later on realised the usb memory holding the live lubuntu image where the installation was taking place from. So i07:00
naftilos76guess that the grub should be installed on "/dev/sdd" which was the actual usb memory where the installation was taking place. Can anybody help as to how i can install grub on the usb memory where lubuntu was installed?07:00
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Sc0rp10nhi all08:34
Sc0rp10nhow do I install flash in lubuntu?08:34
ynze_Aan allen: goedendag. Hier een ubuntu gebruiker, die mogelijk naar lububtu  kan gaan.15:12
ynze_Vraagje: het gebruik van lubuntu, na ubuntu. Wat is technisch precie het verschil?15:12
ynze_Aan allen: gebruik nut een Samsung R530 met ubuntu en er is nog een toshiba satelite met windows 9815:14
Hiighey folks, i have a problem, if anyone is willing and patient enough to help me16:12
cerebrateyeah?  you can go ahead and describe it Hiig :)16:13
Hiigi can link this first, as it explains everything, while i go find the laptop and start it up: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2137166&p=12610512#post1261051216:14
Hiigill be back in a few minutes16:23
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FrankieJhi, i started by installing ubuntu 12.04LTS but then install Lubuntu on top...how can i get to boot into lubuntu by default instead of ubuntu?17:49
phillwHi FrankieJ if you want 'pure' lubuntu, head over to http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purelubuntuprecise17:51
FrankieJphillw, nah, i dont want pure lubuntu, i was trying to see if i can get lubuntu to load at startup without loading ubuntu first17:54
phillwFrankieJ: how did you install lubuntu?17:55
FrankieJjus ran apt-get lubuntu in ubunut's term17:56
phillwtry running apt-get lubuntu-desktop that is the meta package.17:58
phillwwhen you go to log on after installing it, you should see a choice as to which flavour to use for the desktop.17:59
FrankieJyea, that is already done, i boot into lubuntu by default without a problem....my concern is at boot up where it looks like it boots into the orange ubuntu's wallpaper before it loads into lubuntu's blue wallpaper18:00
FrankieJand that load into ubuntu's orange desktop takes a few extra seconds at bootup18:00
phillwthat is just the splash screen that grub is using, it's nothing to worry about18:01
FrankieJahhh, ok18:01
zleapis there a 13.04 count down timer anywhere,  well some code I can paste into my website to provide a count down18:01
FrankieJthx a lot phillw18:01
phillwyou can edit grub, but it's not worth it, unless it is really annoying you!18:01
FrankieJwell if doesnt take more resources it doesnt bother me18:02
phillwzleap: that's a good point, I'll go and rattle Raphael's cage :)18:02
FrankieJi installed lubuntu on top of ubuntu because compiz/gnome was using up too much mem18:02
zleapi did find this http://countingdownto.com/countdown/270631 but its not embeddable in a site18:03
phillwFrankieJ: yeah, and by doing so, you get to keep all the ubuntu applications as well :) I have gnome and kde installed on my CentOS system :)18:03
Unit193Corbin kind of did the last one.18:03
FrankieJlol phillw that was my intention...so i guess ima see if i can edit grub and speed up the boot a lil18:04
phillwUnit193: is Corbin on the art-work team?18:05
Unit193I don't know.18:07
phillwUnit193: well, I've emailed Raffael, (I always forget it is ff and not ph). I've included that you think it was Corbin who did the previous one.18:08
phillwonly 1 f, as well! but it closer for me to type that than attempt 神癒礁湖 :D18:09
phillwUnit193: zleap Yes. Corbin is our clock man. I asked him so we'll have an answer soon.If he can't do it I'll adapt the code for this release. Cheers!紳癒礁湖 (Rafael Laguna) Lubuntu Artwork Team18:21
zleapok cool18:21
zleapWhen it is out I will put it on my blog and share it with g+ at least18:22
zleaptry and get the word out,  and as soon as any posters are updated will try and get em up18:22
phillwit will be on mailing list once it is done.18:22
FrankieJhow can i find the position(partition) of my ubuntu / lubuntu to edit the grub?18:23
phillwFrankieJ: section 6 of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub218:27
phillwthat link explains everything :D18:27
FrankieJyea ive looked up and down and it doesnt tell me how i would find the position of either ubuntu or lubuntu in grub18:28
phillwyou no longer edit grub to pass it partition information, it is automatically searched whenever grub-update is run.18:30
phillwas you added lubuntu to ubuntu, it will not be on a seperate partition.18:31
FrankieJahhhh, thanks18:31
javincdo you know how can I disable at-sp2 service? sorry for my bad english19:29
wxljavinc: did you try sudo service at-sp2 stop? :)19:30
javincit says :at-sp2: unrecognized service19:31
wxlwhat *IS* that?19:31
javincthe terminal output19:32
wxlwhat is that19:32
javincahh, sorry19:32
javincit came with lubuntu, I dont know19:32
wxlhow do you know this?19:33
javincbecause i whach all lubuntu proces to speed up it19:33
FrankieJjavinc, you can install BUM and disable it ther19:33
javincthat is not in bum19:34
wxli can't find it anywhere in my install19:34
Unit193Or in repos, what's the path?19:34
wxlnot by grepping all running processes, not locate, not whereis19:34
wxlthere's atd19:35
wxlwhich of course is related to cron19:36
wxlso you probably don't want to mess with that19:36
javincThe at-spi accessibility framework19:36
javincit says on google19:36
wxlwhat's the full path of the running binary?19:37
javincI dont know :S19:37
wxlwhich utility are you using to look at processes?19:37
javincthe default one19:38
wxlwhich is what?19:38
Unit193!info at-spi2-core19:38
ubottuat-spi2-core (source: at-spi2-core): Assistive Technology Service Provider Interface (dbus core). In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.3-0ubuntu0.1 (quantal), package size 42 kB, installed size 177 kB19:38
javincLXTask 0.1.419:39
Unit193Task: ubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-usb, edubuntu-desktop, edubuntu-desktop-kde, edubuntu-usb, xubuntu-desktop, mythbuntu-frontend, mythbuntu-frontend, mythbuntu-desktop, mythbuntu-backend-slave, mythbuntu-backend-slave, mythbuntu-backend-master, mythbuntu-backend-master, lubuntu-core, ubuntustudio-desktop19:39
wxlso it's part of lubuntu-core19:39
wxljavinc: is it checked in desktop session settings?19:41
wxluncheckk it :)19:42
wxllogout should make it fixed19:43
javincno, is not there, I understand bad19:43
wxlno idea what you mean19:43
wxlif it's checked, uncheck it and logout19:43
javincis not on desktop session settings19:44
wxlit is in mine under automatically started applications19:44
javincis too small, check this19:46
javincthat is the process19:46
javincand this dekstop setings19:47
wxlwell you could right click on it and kill the process i guess19:50
wxlfor the time being19:50
wxlfor a permanent solution get rid of /etc/xdg/autostart/at-spi-dbus-bus.desktop19:51
wxli'd move it to your home folder just to be sure there are no issues19:51
javincI moved  /etc/xdg/autostart/at-spi-dbus-bus.desktop but it doesnt work19:52
wxlof course it doesn't19:52
wxlyou need to restart19:52
wxlerr logout19:53
javincno, I did that before, and I restarted19:53
javincbefore conect hero19:54
javincsorry, *after19:54
wxlnot sure what to tell you19:55
wxlother than you can completely uninstall it19:55
javincit delete a lot of pakages, maybe with other tool similar to bum19:56
wxlsudo apt-get --purge remove at-spi2-core19:56
Unit193I think it's overkill for 6M ram total.19:56
wxlbut w/e19:57
Unit193(Purging removes quite a lot, indicating it may be a requirement of something you use.)19:57
wxlnevermind the purge then19:57
wxlUnit193: doesn't lxsession-edit populate from the contents of /etc/xdg/autostart ??20:00
javincjavier@javier-N130:/etc/xdg/autostart$ dir gnome-keyring-gpg.desktop      gnome-keyring-ssh.desktop       polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1.desktop gnome-keyring-pkcs11.desktop   gsettings-data-convert.desktop  print-applet.desktop gnome-keyring-secrets.desktop  nm-applet.desktop       xfce4-power-manager.desk20:01
javincmaybe is one from gnome20:01
wxlnone of those other ones relate20:01
Unit193wxl: Can't remember if current version or next.20:01
javincmaybe I can do a command to kill it when lubuntu start20:03
wxljust uninstall it20:04
javincI am not sure what pakage is it20:04
wxli told you already20:04
wxlso did Unit19320:04
javincit deletes20:06
javinc apport-gtk at-spi2-core audacious audacious-plugins elementary-icon-theme evince file-roller gcr gdebi gecko-mediaplayer   gir1.2-gtk-3.0 gir1.2-vte-2.90 gir1.2-wnck-3.0 gnome-disk-utility gnome-icon-theme gnome-icon-theme-full   gnome-icon-theme-symbolic gnome-keyring gnome-mplayer gnome-system-tools gnome-time-admin gtk3-engines-unico gucharmap   guvcview gvfs-backends humanity-icon-theme ibus indicator-application indicator-applica20:06
javincand more20:06
javincdo you know how can I do a script to kill them at start?20:09
yo_mamais the RC available yet?20:38
phillwyo_mama: all the dailies being issued as of last thursday are RC's.20:46
phillwI did send an email out on the subject :)20:46
yo_mamayou send e-mail?20:47
phillwyo_mama: yes, to both the test team, and then later to lubuntu-users20:49
phillwI've just paste binned it, in case you are not subscribed to the mailing list. http://pastebin.com/FgYEuH0z20:50
yo_mamaphillw: will VLC ever be included in lubuntu?20:50
phillwyo_mama: nope, this is due to issues with what are called restricted-extras. Ubuntu is prohibited to include them by default and vlc uses them. Don't blame us, or linux in general.... complain to those people who will not release such things as 'open'. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats20:52
yo_mamaphillw: omg that's ridiculous20:54
phillwsad, but true.20:54
yo_mamais Ubuntu a religion or an OS20:55
phillwit is an OS, that does not want the likes of microsoft etc. suing it!20:55
yo_mamaI hate fundamentalism!20:55
yo_mamaWell Linux Mint include VLC and so does some other distros20:56
phillwthe most recent 'daft' one, was a take down notice that states that we cannot use the skype icon in our introductory slides. Ubuntu either does this, or they get sued.20:57
phillwlinux mint, will have a section that says "you are using none GPL" ... It will look something like the notification on lxle http://www.lxle.net/index.php?x=about (at the bottom of the page)20:59
yo_mamaWhat is LXLE? I've never heard of it...21:02
phillwit's a community release of lubuntu 12.0421:04
zoogooGot my Acer aspire 722 the other day. Already have Lubuntu on this machine. t came with 4GB ram. This os is taking so little of the resources that i'm able to sell on a 2gb stick of ram tomorrow at the local second hand ship21:24
phillwzoogoo: or, you could learn about virtual machines and help test 13.10 :D21:25
zoogoonah. i only touch beta of transmission. nightly builds.21:28
phillwzoogoo: that's the whol idea of virtual machines... they can crash and burn, no effect on your actual system :)21:29
zoogoois there a plugin to have the wallpaper change every few minutes in lxde?21:30
phillwzoogoo: iirc, it can be set. the best place to ask is on #lxle but the channel seems empty at present21:34
Etanolhello how can i assing two ip address for my wlan adapter21:51
Etanollooked this but21:51
Etanolmy interfaces file doens't look like that21:51
zleapi seem to have lost the ability to share files via drop box since re-installing lubuntu22:08
zleapfiles are in the folder,  they seem to sync but i can't right click and share or get a link to share22:08
phillwEtanol: please have a look at the stickies on http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=336 If you do not find your answer, please do ask on there. They are the experts on such areas :)22:09
phillwgive them as much information as you can, it will result in a faster reply, instead of a reply asking for more information. :)22:10

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