[01:00] <FrankieJ> hey, i originally installed ubuntu 12.04 LTS but recently install lubuntu - desktop because the gui takes less resources, how do i enable it to boot into lubuntu instead of regular ubuntu's compiz?
[01:40] <Korbit> I'm trying to reset my user and root passwords, but passwd throws the error "Authentication token manipulation error". / is mounted as read/write. I've tried pwunconv, pwconv, and pwck. Permissions on /etc/passwd, /etc/shadow, and /usr/bin/passwd are all proper/correct. This is on Lubuntu 12.04. How can I fix this error without format/reinstall?
[02:39] <holstein> Korbit: there are no root passwords or accounts
[02:39] <holstein> !root
[02:39] <holstein> Korbit: what are you trying to do? reset a user password?
[02:43] <Korbit> holstein: Yes, and in doing so (after a very long day/week) I ended up breaking my root account so when I try to use the root recovery console it asks for a password.
[02:43] <Korbit> So the only way I can access my system is through the passwordless root prompt
[02:45] <Korbit> Thankfully, I have a current backup of my /home/ directory, but I refuse to format/reinstall if at all possible.
[02:45] <holstein> Korbit: thre is no root account
[02:45] <Korbit> semantics.
[02:45] <holstein> Korbit: ?
[02:46] <holstein> Korbit: its not. there really is no rot account like that
[02:46] <Korbit> Root exists, whether you call it an account or not I don't care.
[02:46] <holstein> Korbit: there is no password for an account called "root".. as the link above says
[02:46] <Korbit> The point is, I've spent >30hours and 6 days trying to fix my user account and have only succeeded in making my problem worse.
[02:46] <holstein> !sudo
[02:47] <holstein> Korbit: it wil take about 8 minutes to install lubuntu and maybe 10 minutes to move the date back in place
[02:47] <holstein> data*
[02:47] <holstein> Korbit: start with what you did to "fix" the account
[02:49] <Korbit> And just what do I learn from doing that? What do I do if my password stops working again, and I continue to get the "authentication token manipulation error"? Do I just format and reinstall every time, never learning the cause or fix?
[02:49] <holstein> Korbit: you come here *before* 'fixing' anything, and ask
[02:50] <holstein> Korbit: you can elaborate about what all you have done trying to fix the account.. what account? the main user account? a sudoer?
[02:51] <Korbit> This isn't my first day on the #ubuntu and #lubuntu ircs. I've gone over every fix there is on google (for my user account) before I ended up breaking root, and I don't remember exactly what I did to break root.
[02:51] <holstein> Korbit: list what you have done, and a volunteer can help you figure out what you have done
[02:51] <holstein> Korbit: what did you do?
[02:53] <Korbit> As I said in my comment earlier, I've mounted / as rw, I checked the permissions on /etc/passwd, /etc/shadow, and /usr/bin/passwd. I tried pwunconv, pwconv, and pwck.
[02:53] <Korbit> I've checked log files to see if there were any errors around when my password stopped working and there was nothing unique
[02:54] <holstein> Korbit: try starting at the beginning... what *all* have you done? do you remember?
[02:54] <Korbit> I was tired when I broke root, and I don't remember what I did, nor do I know if/where the log files for what I was doing are.
[02:56] <Korbit> I rebooted into the recovery console. Attempted to use passwd to change my user password. That gave me the error "Authentication token manipulation error". I remounted / as rw and tried again. Same error.
[02:56] <holstein> Korbit: then, just reinstall.. in order for me, or another volunteer to help, you will need to give us *exactly* what you have dont
[02:56] <holstein> done*
[02:56] <Korbit> That was when I logged into the #ubuntu irc to ask for help
[02:57] <holstein> Korbit: cool.. what help was given? there are logs.. you might find what you were told to do there
[02:57] <Korbit> Well, thanks for that. For another question, when / is mounted as rw in the recovery console is logging performed?
[02:58] <holstein> if you log, it might be.. nothing special is happening
[02:58] <holstein> if you use sudo or the recovery prompt, that *is* root
[02:58] <holstein> there is not a tradictional root account.. that is how you get access, and you can break what you like, and there doesnt have to be logs
[02:59] <holstein> Korbit: can you get to tty?
[02:59] <holstein> !tty
[03:00] <Korbit> No. I am in the passwordless root prompt as directed to access here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword
[03:00] <holstein> Korbit: and you ran "mount -rw -o remount /" ?
[03:00] <Korbit> yes, after every reboot.
[03:01] <holstein> you just need to do it once
[03:02] <holstein> Korbit: and after that, you run "passwd username" and you get what error?
[03:02] <Korbit> Authentication token manipulation error
[03:03] <holstein> Korbit: what are the chances the date is incorrect on your box?
[03:03] <holstein> or the permissions are bad on your /etc/shadow file ?
[03:03] <Korbit> I checked that several times. Date is correct. Permissions on /etc/shadow and /etc/passwd are correct
[03:04] <holstein> Korbit: and adduser command?
[03:04] <Korbit> I also get the token error when I attempt to add a new user.
[03:05] <holstein> Korbit: run this... adduser test, and give me the *exact* error
[03:05] <Korbit> passwd: Authentication token manipulation error
[03:05] <Korbit> passwd: password unchanged
[03:06] <Korbit> Try again? [y/N]
[03:06] <holstein> Korbit: thats from "adduser" ?
[03:06] <Korbit> y loops, N gives: "chfn: PAM authentication failed
[03:07] <Korbit> adduser: '/usr/bin/chfn test' returned error code 1. Exiting.
[03:07] <Korbit> that's all from adduser
[03:08] <holstein> Korbit: this looks like it? http://askubuntu.com/questions/222837/diagnose-and-fix-pam-configuration
[03:09] <Korbit> yes, but it never asks for a password and it doesn't continue on after the error code 1 exiting line.
[03:10] <holstein> Korbit: can you run apt-get update there? are there apt errors?
[03:10] <Korbit> Apt-get fails to fetch any files. I think my networking isn't enabled right now.
[03:12] <holstein> Unit193: any bright ideas?
[03:12] <holstein> i mean, i would just reinstall.. im not sure what the deal is, or what has happened, but this is one of the reasons why i have backups
[03:12] <Korbit> Before, when I was still able to use the root recovery mode I was able to run apt-get update
[03:12] <holstein> could be as simple as a failing hard drive
[03:13] <holstein> corrupt file system...
[03:13] <Korbit> I've tried running fsck and it didn't show any errors
[03:13] <holstein> well, you have some kind of error
[03:13] <holstein> i see bugs about that issue, but they are old
[03:13] <Unit193> holstein: Haven't read much, been doing some stuff.  Live and chroot in if it isn't hardware?
[03:15] <holstein> Korbit: wont hurt to chroot in, if you are dead set on "Fixing" it
[03:15] <holstein> Korbit: you have looked at /var/log/auth.log ?
[03:15] <holstein> look there and share if you think its helpful and not personal
[03:17] <Korbit> The only lines in there that look troublesome are occasionally repeated for several weeks, not just unique to the day that my password stopped working.
[03:17] <Korbit> PAM adding faulty module: pam_gnomekeyring.so
[05:31] <csc`> Will changing the root password affect anything negatively?
[05:31] <csc`> (from something other than default)
[07:00] <naftilos76> hi everyone, i just installed lubuntu on a usb flash memory. Everything went well. However when i restart my laptop and the boot sequence reaches the usb i get i message "no operating system found" which gives me the idea that i did something wrong with the installation of grub. As far as i remember i entered "/dev/sdc" which was as i later on realised the usb memory holding the live lubuntu image where the installation was taking place from. So i
[07:00] <naftilos76> guess that the grub should be installed on "/dev/sdd" which was the actual usb memory where the installation was taking place. Can anybody help as to how i can install grub on the usb memory where lubuntu was installed?
[07:01] <naftilos76> Anybody?
[08:34] <Sc0rp10n> hi all
[08:34] <Sc0rp10n> how do I install flash in lubuntu?
[15:12] <ynze_> Aan allen: goedendag. Hier een ubuntu gebruiker, die mogelijk naar lububtu  kan gaan.
[15:12] <ynze_> Vraagje: het gebruik van lubuntu, na ubuntu. Wat is technisch precie het verschil?
[15:14] <ynze_> Aan allen: gebruik nut een Samsung R530 met ubuntu en er is nog een toshiba satelite met windows 98
[16:12] <Hiig> hey folks, i have a problem, if anyone is willing and patient enough to help me
[16:13] <cerebrate> yeah?  you can go ahead and describe it Hiig :)
[16:14] <Hiig> i can link this first, as it explains everything, while i go find the laptop and start it up: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2137166&p=12610512#post12610512
[16:23] <Hiig> ill be back in a few minutes
[17:49] <FrankieJ> hi, i started by installing ubuntu 12.04LTS but then install Lubuntu on top...how can i get to boot into lubuntu by default instead of ubuntu?
[17:51] <phillw> Hi FrankieJ if you want 'pure' lubuntu, head over to http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purelubuntuprecise
[17:54] <FrankieJ> phillw, nah, i dont want pure lubuntu, i was trying to see if i can get lubuntu to load at startup without loading ubuntu first
[17:55] <phillw> FrankieJ: how did you install lubuntu?
[17:56] <FrankieJ> jus ran apt-get lubuntu in ubunut's term
[17:58] <phillw> try running apt-get lubuntu-desktop that is the meta package.
[17:59] <phillw> when you go to log on after installing it, you should see a choice as to which flavour to use for the desktop.
[18:00] <FrankieJ> yea, that is already done, i boot into lubuntu by default without a problem....my concern is at boot up where it looks like it boots into the orange ubuntu's wallpaper before it loads into lubuntu's blue wallpaper
[18:00] <FrankieJ> and that load into ubuntu's orange desktop takes a few extra seconds at bootup
[18:01] <phillw> that is just the splash screen that grub is using, it's nothing to worry about
[18:01] <FrankieJ> ahhh, ok
[18:01] <zleap> is there a 13.04 count down timer anywhere,  well some code I can paste into my website to provide a count down
[18:01] <FrankieJ> thx a lot phillw
[18:01] <phillw> you can edit grub, but it's not worth it, unless it is really annoying you!
[18:02] <FrankieJ> well if doesnt take more resources it doesnt bother me
[18:02] <phillw> zleap: that's a good point, I'll go and rattle Raphael's cage :)
[18:02] <FrankieJ> i installed lubuntu on top of ubuntu because compiz/gnome was using up too much mem
[18:03] <zleap> i did find this http://countingdownto.com/countdown/270631 but its not embeddable in a site
[18:03] <phillw> FrankieJ: yeah, and by doing so, you get to keep all the ubuntu applications as well :) I have gnome and kde installed on my CentOS system :)
[18:03] <Unit193> Corbin kind of did the last one.
[18:04] <FrankieJ> lol phillw that was my intention...so i guess ima see if i can edit grub and speed up the boot a lil
[18:05] <phillw> Unit193: is Corbin on the art-work team?
[18:07] <Unit193> I don't know.
[18:08] <phillw> Unit193: well, I've emailed Raffael, (I always forget it is ff and not ph). I've included that you think it was Corbin who did the previous one.
[18:09] <phillw> only 1 f, as well! but it closer for me to type that than attempt 神癒礁湖 :D
[18:21] <phillw> Unit193: zleap Yes. Corbin is our clock man. I asked him so we'll have an answer soon.If he can't do it I'll adapt the code for this release. Cheers!紳癒礁湖 (Rafael Laguna) Lubuntu Artwork Team
[18:21] <zleap> ok cool
[18:22] <zleap> When it is out I will put it on my blog and share it with g+ at least
[18:22] <zleap> try and get the word out,  and as soon as any posters are updated will try and get em up
[18:22] <phillw> it will be on mailing list once it is done.
[18:23] <FrankieJ> how can i find the position(partition) of my ubuntu / lubuntu to edit the grub?
[18:27] <phillw> FrankieJ: section 6 of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[18:27] <phillw> that link explains everything :D
[18:28] <FrankieJ> yea ive looked up and down and it doesnt tell me how i would find the position of either ubuntu or lubuntu in grub
[18:30] <phillw> you no longer edit grub to pass it partition information, it is automatically searched whenever grub-update is run.
[18:31] <phillw> as you added lubuntu to ubuntu, it will not be on a seperate partition.
[18:31] <FrankieJ> ahhhh, thanks
[19:28] <javinc> hello
[19:29] <javinc> do you know how can I disable at-sp2 service? sorry for my bad english
[19:30] <wxl> javinc: did you try sudo service at-sp2 stop? :)
[19:31] <javinc> yes
[19:31] <javinc> it says :at-sp2: unrecognized service
[19:31] <wxl> what *IS* that?
[19:32] <javinc> the terminal output
[19:32] <wxl> at-sp2
[19:32] <wxl> what is that
[19:32] <javinc> ahh, sorry
[19:32] <javinc> it came with lubuntu, I dont know
[19:33] <wxl> how do you know this?
[19:33] <javinc> because i whach all lubuntu proces to speed up it
[19:33] <FrankieJ> javinc, you can install BUM and disable it ther
[19:34] <FrankieJ> *there
[19:34] <javinc> that is not in bum
[19:34] <wxl> i can't find it anywhere in my install
[19:34] <Unit193> Or in repos, what's the path?
[19:34] <wxl> not by grepping all running processes, not locate, not whereis
[19:35] <wxl> there's atd
[19:36] <wxl> which of course is related to cron
[19:36] <wxl> so you probably don't want to mess with that
[19:36] <javinc> The at-spi accessibility framework
[19:36] <javinc> it says on google
[19:37] <wxl> what's the full path of the running binary?
[19:37] <javinc> I dont know :S
[19:37] <wxl> which utility are you using to look at processes?
[19:38] <javinc> the default one
[19:38] <wxl> which is what?
[19:38] <Unit193> !info at-spi2-core
[19:39] <javinc> LXTask 0.1.4
[19:39] <wxl> optional?
[19:39] <Unit193> Task: ubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-usb, edubuntu-desktop, edubuntu-desktop-kde, edubuntu-usb, xubuntu-desktop, mythbuntu-frontend, mythbuntu-frontend, mythbuntu-desktop, mythbuntu-backend-slave, mythbuntu-backend-slave, mythbuntu-backend-master, mythbuntu-backend-master, lubuntu-core, ubuntustudio-desktop
[19:39] <wxl> so it's part of lubuntu-core
[19:41] <wxl> javinc: is it checked in desktop session settings?
[19:41] <javinc> yes
[19:42] <wxl> uncheckk it :)
[19:43] <wxl> logout should make it fixed
[19:43] <javinc> no, is not there, I understand bad
[19:43] <wxl> no idea what you mean
[19:43] <wxl> if it's checked, uncheck it and logout
[19:44] <javinc> is not on desktop session settings
[19:44] <wxl> it is in mine under automatically started applications
[19:45] <javinc> http://s2.subirimagenes.com/imagen/previo/thump_8397839201304212142021024x6.png
[19:46] <javinc> is too small, check this
[19:46] <javinc> http://www.subirimagenes.com/imagen-201304212142021024x6-8397839.html
[19:46] <javinc> http://www.subirimagenes.com/imagen-201304212142521024x6-8397840.html
[19:46] <javinc> that is the process
[19:47] <javinc> and this dekstop setings
[19:47] <javinc> http://www.subirimagenes.com/imagen-201304212146421024x6-8397843.html
[19:49] <wxl> strange
[19:50] <wxl> well you could right click on it and kill the process i guess
[19:50] <wxl> for the time being
[19:51] <wxl> for a permanent solution get rid of /etc/xdg/autostart/at-spi-dbus-bus.desktop
[19:51] <wxl> i'd move it to your home folder just to be sure there are no issues
[19:52] <javinc> I moved  /etc/xdg/autostart/at-spi-dbus-bus.desktop but it doesnt work
[19:52] <wxl> of course it doesn't
[19:52] <wxl> you need to restart
[19:53] <wxl> err logout
[19:53] <javinc> no, I did that before, and I restarted
[19:54] <javinc> before conect hero
[19:54] <javinc> sorry, *after
[19:54] <javinc> *here
[19:55] <wxl> not sure what to tell you
[19:55] <wxl> other than you can completely uninstall it
[19:56] <javinc> it delete a lot of pakages, maybe with other tool similar to bum
[19:56] <wxl> sudo apt-get --purge remove at-spi2-core
[19:56] <Unit193> I think it's overkill for 6M ram total.
[19:56] <wxl> totally
[19:57] <wxl> but w/e
[19:57] <Unit193> (Purging removes quite a lot, indicating it may be a requirement of something you use.)
[19:57] <wxl> ok
[19:57] <wxl> nevermind the purge then
[20:00] <wxl> Unit193: doesn't lxsession-edit populate from the contents of /etc/xdg/autostart ??
[20:01] <javinc> javier@javier-N130:/etc/xdg/autostart$ dir gnome-keyring-gpg.desktop      gnome-keyring-ssh.desktop       polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1.desktop gnome-keyring-pkcs11.desktop   gsettings-data-convert.desktop  print-applet.desktop gnome-keyring-secrets.desktop  nm-applet.desktop	       xfce4-power-manager.desk
[20:01] <javinc> maybe is one from gnome
[20:01] <wxl> none of those other ones relate
[20:01] <Unit193> wxl: Can't remember if current version or next.
[20:02] <javinc> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/at-spi/+question/213455
[20:03] <javinc> maybe I can do a command to kill it when lubuntu start
[20:04] <wxl> just uninstall it
[20:04] <javinc> I am not sure what pakage is it
[20:04] <wxl> i told you already
[20:04] <wxl> so did Unit193
[20:04] <wxl> sheesh
[20:04] <wxl> at-spi2-core
[20:06] <javinc> it deletes
[20:06] <javinc>  apport-gtk at-spi2-core audacious audacious-plugins elementary-icon-theme evince file-roller gcr gdebi gecko-mediaplayer   gir1.2-gtk-3.0 gir1.2-vte-2.90 gir1.2-wnck-3.0 gnome-disk-utility gnome-icon-theme gnome-icon-theme-full   gnome-icon-theme-symbolic gnome-keyring gnome-mplayer gnome-system-tools gnome-time-admin gtk3-engines-unico gucharmap   guvcview gvfs-backends humanity-icon-theme ibus indicator-application indicator-applica
[20:06] <javinc> and more
[20:09] <javinc> do you know how can I do a script to kill them at start?
[20:38] <yo_mama> is the RC available yet?
[20:46] <phillw> yo_mama: all the dailies being issued as of last thursday are RC's.
[20:46] <phillw> I did send an email out on the subject :)
[20:47] <yo_mama> you send e-mail?
[20:49] <phillw> yo_mama: yes, to both the test team, and then later to lubuntu-users
[20:50] <phillw> I've just paste binned it, in case you are not subscribed to the mailing list. http://pastebin.com/FgYEuH0z
[20:50] <yo_mama> phillw: will VLC ever be included in lubuntu?
[20:52] <phillw> yo_mama: nope, this is due to issues with what are called restricted-extras. Ubuntu is prohibited to include them by default and vlc uses them. Don't blame us, or linux in general.... complain to those people who will not release such things as 'open'. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[20:54] <yo_mama> phillw: omg that's ridiculous
[20:54] <phillw> sad, but true.
[20:55] <yo_mama> is Ubuntu a religion or an OS
[20:55] <phillw> it is an OS, that does not want the likes of microsoft etc. suing it!
[20:55] <yo_mama> I hate fundamentalism!
[20:56] <yo_mama> Well Linux Mint include VLC and so does some other distros
[20:57] <phillw> the most recent 'daft' one, was a take down notice that states that we cannot use the skype icon in our introductory slides. Ubuntu either does this, or they get sued.
[20:59] <phillw> linux mint, will have a section that says "you are using none GPL" ... It will look something like the notification on lxle http://www.lxle.net/index.php?x=about (at the bottom of the page)
[21:02] <yo_mama> What is LXLE? I've never heard of it...
[21:04] <phillw> it's a community release of lubuntu 12.04
[21:05] <yo_mama> interesting
[21:23] <zoogoo> ello
[21:24] <zoogoo> Got my Acer aspire 722 the other day. Already have Lubuntu on this machine. t came with 4GB ram. This os is taking so little of the resources that i'm able to sell on a 2gb stick of ram tomorrow at the local second hand ship
[21:25] <phillw> zoogoo: or, you could learn about virtual machines and help test 13.10 :D
[21:28] <zoogoo> nah. i only touch beta of transmission. nightly builds.
[21:29] <phillw> zoogoo: that's the whol idea of virtual machines... they can crash and burn, no effect on your actual system :)
[21:29] <phillw> *whole*
[21:30] <zoogoo> is there a plugin to have the wallpaper change every few minutes in lxde?
[21:34] <phillw> zoogoo: iirc, it can be set. the best place to ask is on #lxle but the channel seems empty at present
[21:51] <Etanol> hello how can i assing two ip address for my wlan adapter
[21:51] <Etanol> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/ubuntu-networking-configuration-using-command-line.html
[21:51] <Etanol> looked this but
[21:51] <Etanol> my interfaces file doens't look like that
[21:52] <Etanol> default
[21:53] <Etanol> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/18956447/interfaces
[22:08] <zleap> i seem to have lost the ability to share files via drop box since re-installing lubuntu
[22:08] <zleap> files are in the folder,  they seem to sync but i can't right click and share or get a link to share
[22:09] <phillw> Etanol: please have a look at the stickies on http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=336 If you do not find your answer, please do ask on there. They are the experts on such areas :)
[22:10] <phillw> give them as much information as you can, it will result in a faster reply, instead of a reply asking for more information. :)
[23:54] <zoogoo> dc