[01:03] <csgeek> hey guys.
[01:22] <csgeek> I'm having some wifi issue with the latest Ubuntu release and I was wondering if anyone had some insight.  Well, to be accurate it's issues with the realtec drivers  rtl8192cu.  under 12.10 I had to compile the drivers from source... which is fine.  But with 13.04 It won't compile... seems to be some changes in the kernel headers maybe?
[01:33] <bjsnider> csgeek, exact build error please
[01:33] <csgeek> sure... give me a sec to flip between usb thumb drive + internet enabled machine
[01:37] <csgeek> bjsnider: http://pastie.org/7677805
[01:38] <csgeek> i was about to try their latest from trunk/HEAD off github... unless you have some other suggestions
[01:40] <bjsnider> is there newer driver code?
[01:40] <bjsnider> is that driver already in the kernel?
[01:41] <csgeek> no.. even in 12.10 I had to build it manually
[01:41] <csgeek> the latest one I *believe* is:  https://github.com/dvdhrm/rt8192cu
[01:41] <csgeek> which still errors out..
[01:42] <bjsnider> well, you might have to use an older kernel then
[01:42] <bjsnider> i would really recommend getting a nice usb wifi dongle that's well-supported
[01:43] <csgeek> I think I have a newer kernel
[01:43] <bjsnider> yes but you can install an older one and remove the newer one
[01:43] <csgeek> well... this is a usb dongle.. but since my internal built one is giving me issues..and the usb one is doing the same... what would you recommend that IS recommended
[01:44] <bjsnider> like a 3.5 kernel
[01:44] <csgeek> oh.. can I?
[01:44] <bjsnider> yeah just go to launchpad and look for the linux-image package
[01:45] <bjsnider> you can grab one from quantal or earlier
[01:46] <csgeek> okay.  what a supported card that you know would work? any suggestions?
[01:53] <csgeek> sweet.. booted into the older kernel and that seems to work for now
[02:05] <bjsnider> i knew of a good one at one point but i forgot
[08:53] <lordievader> Good morning.
[11:08] <MonkeyDust> what's Unity's equivalent of alacarte? I'm not able to use alacarte to set --disk-cache-dir=/tmp for chromium-browser
[11:10] <Stanley00> MonkeyDust: you can copy a "*desktop" in /usr/share/applications to your home and edit the exec line
[11:11] <Stanley00> MonkeyDust: copy the edited file to ~/.local/share/applications, and maybe you need log out.
[11:11] <MonkeyDust> i'll try
[11:13] <Stanley00> MonkeyDust: the desktop file for chromium is "chromium-browser.desktop" :D
[11:15] <MonkeyDust> no .desktop file there
[11:16] <Stanley00> dpkg-query: no packages found matching chromiun-browser
[11:16] <Stanley00> shadeslayer: 1: dpkg -L chromium-browser | grep -i desktop: not found
[11:17] <Stanley00> MonkeyDust: run "dpkg -L chromium-browser | grep -i desktop" and you will see that *desktop file
[11:21] <MonkeyDust> Stanley00  ok, seems to have to done the trick, thanks
[11:21] <Stanley00> MonkeyDust: you are welcome ;)
[12:16] <ua1> Hello
[12:17] <ua1> I had a quick question for those using Xubuntu 13.04 beta
[12:17] <ua1> or anyone who has any experience with it
[12:18] <ua1> Any Xubuntu users in here?
[12:18] <ua1> Not too surprised, although I love it myself. Bye for now :)
[12:19] <admin_dav> Hello yesterday i told about kubuntu problem on 13.04 beta (black screen with kde plasma desktop)
[12:20] <admin_dav> finally I solved it. Thanks to BluesKaj for support
[12:22] <admin_dav> For everybody if you have similar problem i solved with the reinstallation of lightdm. Bye
[15:03] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[15:03] <penguin42> Hey BK
[15:13] <[diablo]> Good afternoon #ubuntu+!
[15:13] <[diablo]> guys, am I missing something or has the RC missed it's target date?
[15:19] <penguin42> as I read it the way it works has changed: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReleaseCandidate
[15:19] <penguin42> 'During the week leading up to the final release, the images produced are all considered release candidates'
[15:20] <[diablo]> ah ok thanks penguin42
[15:20] <penguin42> (wth does that page render with the kubuntu.org theme for me?)
[15:20] <[diablo]> the link u pasted me?
[15:20] <penguin42> nod
[15:21] <[diablo]> got the ubuntu theme here
[15:22] <penguin42> hmm
[15:25] <SuperLag> Should ~/Downloads be setgid?
[15:27]  * penguin42 has never seen a ~/Downloads setgid
[15:40] <maxb> I can't think of a reason for that to make sense, unless the user was trying to do something unusual involving sharing the Downloads with other users on the system
[15:42] <michagogo> Is it safe to assume that on Thursday http://releases.ubuntu.com/13.04/ubuntu-13.04-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent and http://releases.ubuntu.com/13.04/ubuntu-13.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent will both go live at those URLs? Also, what time of day is the release planned for?
[16:15] <SuperLag> penguin42: I saw it on my 13.04 VM. ~/Downloads was setgid, and the user:group was odd, as well.
[16:17] <SuperLag> on my native 13.04 installs, nothing like that
[16:17] <penguin42> I've not tried a fresh install for a while, so it's possible that it's on purpose - but odd; what are the user:group - I doubt it's the VMness
[16:18] <SuperLag> 1012:src
[16:18] <SuperLag> prior to my changing it back to me:me
[16:19] <SuperLag> and I don't think it was hacked, because there's no way to reach that box from outside... it uses a NAT type connection
[16:19] <penguin42> that looks like an installer for something has gone nuts; have you deleted a user?
[16:19] <SuperLag> yes
[16:20] <penguin42> so that looks like the dir was once owned by that user for some reason
[16:20] <SuperLag> I had created a couple extra users, and deleted them
[16:20] <penguin42> (You don't need an inward connection to get hacked - e.g. installing a bad package or looking at a dodgy website that finds a way through will do it)
[16:21] <SuperLag> I don't mess with the dodgy websites. But a bad package... that seems more plausible. However, I work to avoid that, as well.
[16:22] <SuperLag> I guess if places like Skype and Teamviewer go rogue... then I'm screwed :)
[16:25] <penguin42> ...or the connection that delivers them to you
[16:26] <SuperLag> it seems like if that's the case.... distrust should be your stance, in every case
[16:26] <penguin42> correct
[16:26] <SuperLag> even for stuff that you'd normally think reliable
[16:26] <SuperLag> like stuff from your own work repo
[16:27] <penguin42> (OK, it's actually hard to live like that - but it is safest!)
[16:27] <SuperLag> i.e. *nothing* can be trusted
[16:34] <FernandoMiguel> !release
[16:44] <samijam> maybe ubottu needs updated with new information :)
[16:45] <linuxtech> Welcome to Ubuntu 13.04 (GNU/Linux 3.5.0-17-generic x86_64)  Umm, that shouldn't happen.  menu.lst has Ubuntu 13.04, kernel 3.8.0-19-generic as the first entry.  Any ideas whats wrong here?
[16:48] <bjsnider> linuxtech, if you hold shirt at boot time you can get the menu and manually select 3.8
[16:48] <k1l> menu.lst ?
[16:48] <k1l> linuxtech: you are running grub1 or grub2?
[16:49] <linuxtech> This is a VPS, linux-image-virtual 3.8.0.19.35   amd64
[16:49] <k1l> linuxtech: ah. a vps gets the kernel from the host
[16:49] <k1l> so talk to your hoster about the kernel the can give you
[16:49] <linuxtech> grub version 0.97-29ubuntu66 grub-common 2.00-13ubuntu3
[16:51] <linuxtech> This is a kvm provider, I didn't have these sorts of issues with xen at Prgmr.
[16:52] <linuxtech> OK, I'll google a bit more before contacting them.  Thanks!
[17:00] <ammini> Re-posting from #ubuntu as its a 13.04 issue. Yesterday the upgrade from 12.10 to 13.04B got interrupted in between due to power failure. What are possible remedial measures for me to complete that upgrade? When I boot my machine now, its coming to grub prompt.
[17:01] <bjsnider> try each kernel to see if you can boot one
[17:05] <ammini> bjsnider: I'm dropped for grub2 shell. The splashimages isn't reaching. I believe it can't see stage2 of grub2
[17:05]  * ammini is new to grub2 as well.
[17:12] <michagogo> !13.04
[17:17] <ammini> michagogo: I believe I'm in the right place. Well, I'm trying to boot off of the LiveCD, then try some recovery.
[17:17] <michagogo> ammini: That wasn't directed at you
[18:05] <cebor> my LCD dont dims down while idling on battery mode, is this a known bug ??
[18:06] <cebor> i have a thinkpad t430
[18:50] <ThePendulum> Hm, will the login be polished before the release the 25th?
[18:51] <ThePendulum> It has this out-of-place bordered login box, not the styling I'm used to
[18:52] <bazhang> bug reports are always welcome
[18:52] <ThePendulum> I would be surprised if that hasn't been filed yet, it's not something that goes unnoticed :p
[18:52] <ThePendulum> Where can I check?
[18:56] <ThePendulum> Hm, 13.04 compiz no longer supports having a window stick to whatever workspace you're on?
[20:29] <min|dvir|us> It seems that libwagon2-java is broken.
[20:32] <min|dvir|us> I can't install maven, which has libwagon2-java as a dep.
[20:42] <trism> min|dvir|us: bug 1171056
[20:42] <min|dvir|us> trism: thanks!
[20:46] <linuxtech> Where do I find the Kubuntu RC images?  http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/13.04 only has the older beta2.
[20:54] <linuxtech> The RC versions were supposed to be out 3 days ago, where are they?  Or is something holding it up?
[20:59] <jtaylor> probably kubuntu does not do RC's
[21:00] <jtaylor> just use a daily
[21:08] <lordievader> linuxtech: As jtaylor says Kubuntu doesn't do RC's, Beta 2 is the last one before the release.
[21:26] <dmatt> in my experience image from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/current/ fixed issues I had with beta2 instalation, so use the latest possible
[22:10] <helpmeplease> Hi everybody I am becoming mad, I put ubuntu 13 and no settings for hdmi output, could u please let me know what to do?
[22:12] <helpmeplease> it's unbelievable that in this release 13.04 they have forgotten to put hdmi output in alsamixer
[22:15] <trism> helpmeplease: I notice bug 1169761 , might be related
[22:21] <helpmeplease> trism than what do u suggest me to do? To downgrade?
[22:22] <IdleOne> !downgrade
[22:22] <IdleOne> helpmeplease: only thing to do is to reinstall 12.10 if you really need to
[22:23] <helpmeplease> ok Idleone otherwise do u think this bug will be solved soon?
[22:25] <IdleOne> I have no idea but I am assuming someone is working on it
[22:26] <helpmeplease> ok Idleone I thank u otherwise I was becoming mad :)
[22:26] <IdleOne> testing beta requires a good grasp on your temper :)
[22:27] <Tex_Nick> 13.04 with gnome desktop ... when setting a new  desktop "background/wallpaper" i don't see how to set the image to scale, tile, fill, etc ... as in 12.10 ... am I missing something or is it just not implemented yet ?
[23:14] <ammini> Yesterday the upgrade from 12.10 to 13.04B got interrupted in between due to power failure. What are possible remedial measures for me to complete that upgrade? When I boot my machine now, its coming to grub prompt.
[23:15] <jtaylor> do you get a root shell?
[23:15] <ammini> I'd now access the system with LiveCD/USB. But chroot isn't having the connection to uplink.
[23:15] <jtaylor> uplink?
[23:15] <ammini> jtaylor: If I boot off the HDD, it just goes till grub>
[23:16] <ammini> jtaylor: To internet. I was hoping to resume the upgrade process from the chroot environment, if I'd make the system connect to repos.
[23:16] <jtaylor> you might have to copy resolvconf into it
[23:17] <jtaylor> have you bindmounted the special folders?
[23:17] <jtaylor> dev sys etc
[23:17] <jtaylor> well not etc, etc. :)
[23:17] <psusi> bind /run.. /etc/resolv.conf is now a symlink to /run
[23:18] <jtaylor> what I use: http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[23:18] <ammini> jtaylor: Yeah, I'm following that from one ofthe Ubuntu Wikis. Hoping that I make network active inside chroot, which command should I run to resume the previously interrupted upgrade?
[23:19] <jtaylor> apt-get install -f; apt-get dist-upgrade
[23:19] <ammini> Ok.
[23:19] <jtaylor> hm why does my pastebinit not work
[23:20] <jtaylor> hm paste.ubuntu is broken?
[23:21] <jtaylor> wtf paste.debian too?
[23:22] <jtaylor> http://pastebin.com/fGU78UWj
[23:23] <jtaylor> < offline
[23:31] <ammini> Ok, I'd to run dpkg --configure -a
[23:43] <jmnoz> hi, is anyone here running E17 (enlightenment) on raring? http://ppa.launchpad.net/efl has updated with support for raring but I can not seem to find an e17 package?
[23:46] <k1l> jmnoz: https://launchpad.net/~efl/+archive/trunk?field.series_filter=raring  because there is no raring package for that
[23:47] <jmnoz> okay guess the maintainer hasn't gotten around to it yet then.
[23:48] <ammini> I can't remove grub.cfg file. ls -l /boot/grub/grub.cfg shows ???????? on all the attributes.
[23:50] <valorie> ammini: maybe rename instead?
[23:50] <valorie> remove is sort of dangerous
[23:50] <ammini> valorie: mv doesn't work as well.
[23:51] <valorie> !grub
[23:51] <valorie> the troubleshooting link is useful
[23:51] <ammini> valorie: I'm right there on those links :)
[23:51] <valorie> cool
[23:51] <ammini> valorie: I fail while I do update-grub
[23:51] <valorie> I was not happy to chroot, but it worked
[23:52] <ammini> I've teh chroot env ready and working
[23:52]  * valorie takes off for dinner, and wishes you the best of luck
[23:52] <ammini> Thanks.