[08:26] Morning all.. [08:39] good morning [08:39] it's bbq day today [08:39] but before I get started on that, I'm writing some django [08:39] django = fun [08:39] well, I'm doing some auth stuff, but I didn't find it very intuative [08:40] though now I've got it in place, it does look quite good [08:40] SuperMatt: the tutorial and docs helped me a lot though [08:40] they're not "my first program" level, which I think is a big plus :) [08:40] oh, they're very helpful, but it would have been nice to having a step by step tutorial which explains creating an account, and then logging in to it [08:41] much of what I've done has involved reading about the methods and classes, working out what's being returned and then applying the right method to that, etc [08:42] morning [08:42] morning popeles [09:06] Does anybody know if you can buy the Ubuntu stickers like that on the Dell Sputnik ultrabook? [09:07] http://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=718 [09:07] ?] [09:08] popey: I don't think it's quite the same, but they'll do :) thanks [09:09] popey: Do you have the 13.04 shirt yet? [09:19] \0/ finally sensible shipping charges on the canonical merchandise sotre [09:19] s/sotre/store === JethroTroll is now known as GentileBen [09:40] good morning everyone, [09:40] \o brobostigon [09:41] \o MartijnVdS [09:43] Morning... [09:43] morning alexcockell [11:38] formula 1 coming up on R5L (20 minutes) [11:42] Pixar double bill on iTV2 at the mo.. [11:42] Toy Story 1 and 2.. have those on DVD :) [11:58] Yeah- but even so - sometimes has to be done, as it saves arsing around spinning uip discs... [11:59] Y'know what would really help - if the film industry managed to set upsomething like Public Lending Rights format - and feed this into Netflix etc.. meaning less up-front royalty cash [11:59] ... and something morelike the music industry with PRS money.. [11:59] Oh - and lose exclusivity... [12:00] = Netflix etc become the Spotifys of the film and TV world.. [13:27] or just rip all your DVDs and blu-rays... [16:02] Azelphur: how many have you ordered? https://products.butterflylabs.com/5-gh-s-bitcoin-miner.html [16:02] popey: I have had 3 of the 60 GH/sec miners on preorder since June. [16:03] any idea when they will ship? [16:03] nope they are the king of delays [16:05] surely they'd just make them and plug them in to mine themselves? [16:07] what are GH per sec? [16:08] giga-hash per second; as in cryptographic hash used in bitcoin? [16:08] the speed measurement for bitcoin mining [16:08] aah [16:08] it's depressing that there isn't anything useful and financially rewarding people could use their spare CPU for [16:10] spare is a matter of opinion. at full load my desktop pc uses nearly 4 times as much electrical power (watts) than it does when idle - put a gpu into the mix and it's even more. The cost of that electricity would probably outweigh any financial incentives to run at full tilt. [16:12] yeh agreed, but the bitcoiners are managing that [16:13] if I conservatively run at 250watts (no gpu running) at full load, then it'll cost over 25£ per month. double that (or more?) to include gpu processing. and that's just for one PC [16:14] I'll admit, though, that multicore improves matters power-wise === Hornet- is now known as Hornet [16:50] diddledan: the correct GPU will earn you double that currently... not for long though [18:24] hi. some quick questions. will everything working on 12.10 work as it is on 13.04? [18:31] not neccessarily. some apps may no longer exist. some may have been rewritten and be significantly different [18:35] the new firefox is pretty crap [18:35] though that's already in 12.10 [18:37] for example, you can't edit styles within the inspector any more, which now can only be a bar along the bottom of the screen and not a tab at the side [18:47] ali1234: are you sure? I seem to be able to edit styles in firefox 20 here [18:48] well, can't figure out how [18:48] ali1234: I have an inpector pane which looks more like firebug than before, on the inspector tab I have "rules" selected from the 3 options at the right, I can edit style rules there [18:51] hi tom [18:51] ah, that's it, thanks [18:51] now, can you tell me why mouse wheel scrolling has stopped working in the inspector? [18:52] or how to make it into a horizontal pane instead of a vertical one? [18:53] No ⢁( but you could detach it and put its window next to the main window [18:58] i guess i'll just switch to chrome then [19:03] ali1234: how do you put the inspector on the side in chrome? [19:03] you can't [19:03] ... [19:04] chrome however has other features that make up for the lack of this one [19:04] such as not being incredibly slow [19:04] haha [19:04] I've not found firefox to be slow since about version 16 or 17 [19:04] and having working scrolling [19:04] Scrolling also works here ⡈( [20:20] Beach++ http://www.flickr.com/photos/treenaks/8668745337/in/photostream/lightbox/ [20:24] beach isn't quite the same out here .. http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2400/2050554123_e29f303247_b.jpg [20:25] shauno: not a lot of colour [20:29] he just looks like a wee speck, but there's actually a surfer in there [20:30] black speck, far rihght? [20:30] right [20:33] that's the chap [20:41] Hi all. Can anyone advise how best to get the AMD graphics drivers installed on Ubuntu 13? I'm getting in the install log "fglrx installation requires that the system have kernel headers" [20:42] Sugarat: sudo apt-get install fglrx ? [20:43] I was trying to install the latest stable driver, 13.1 - do you know what version that would install? I downloaded the zip file from amd's website [21:06] 13.1 works. 12.8 is junk, 13.3 beta is junk === Hornet- is now known as Hornet