[00:01] ;) [00:01] ;D [00:01] How are you? [00:02] ;) [00:02] I am not aloud to talk off topic from Xubuntu support in this channel. maddernick will assault me. ;/ [00:02] :( [00:08] packetfrog: now it is done [00:09] Colored taskbar or theme? [00:10] colored taskbar [00:11] Congrats :) [00:11] thanks [00:12] packetfrog: http://i37.tinypic.com/fmp7hy.png [00:14] Sorry was rebooting back into Xubuntu. [00:14] http://i37.tinypic.com/fmp7hy.png [00:14] Oh I see it. :) irc stays on. Looks nice and clean, what kind of resolution you use? [00:14] dual monitor [00:15] 1280x1204 [00:15] Its split across two screens? [00:15] 1024 [00:15] yes [00:15] crazy [00:15] :P [00:16] I have my laptop with a flat screen tv above it on the wall and a viewsonic lcd on its side on the right [00:16] I just use the TV when I am in windows playing games though, and the monitor on its side is for documents/pdfs/what-have-you [00:16] I suppose if I could afford matching screens I would get one of those fancy three screen setups though. [00:17] #xubuntu-offtopic [00:17] :P [00:17] I have two screeens couse I do programming and I have the specification on the other screent. When I play in windows I do it with my TV [01:27] i'm having an issue with my xubuntu 12.10 installation: at boot, unless i specifically enter the GRUB menu (in which case the system boots fine), i get an error that keeps the splash page from showing properly and the system won't boot [01:28] the error output i get varies, but it usually has something about fsck checking /dev/sda1 files and blocks, and alternately something about /etc/apparmor.d/usr.bin.firefox [01:28] what i'm wondering is: for a workaround, how can i force the computer to show the GRUB menu every time it is started or rebooted? [01:32] http://askubuntu.com/questions/24586/how-to-always-show-the-menu-in-grub2 === bazhang_ is now known as bazhang [01:34] packetfrog, GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT is an environment variable? [01:35] ah nvm, found /etc/default/grub [01:37] * packetfrog nods [01:37] That link links to the grub ubuntu wiki as well... [01:37] * packetfrog never had to mess with it so if you cant read it I will for you.. I am assuming you can though. :) [01:38] packetfrog, yeah i was there already actually, it's a longish one ;) [01:38] i wish i understood the underlying problem as well, but for now any fix will do [01:38] Stick around or ask in #ubuntu or #linux [01:39] I am just a user that can google. [01:42] yeah, i will look into it, thanks for the google help :) [01:42] No worries, Let me know if I you need help figuring something out, I can at least try. [01:42] :p [01:42] or not [06:00] hallo. I'm looking to migrate from gnome to xfce [06:01] but should like to avoid dragging alotta extra stuff into it. [06:24] hi people! [06:24] could anyone help me with installing btgM [06:24] hi dBLOOD [06:24] * btg [06:25] what is btg? [06:25] it's a torrent client based on rasterbar torrent library [06:39] The Application menu does not show a Seahorse menu item. How can I fix that? [06:41] bullgard4: search for it in alacarte [06:41] or create a entry by yourself [06:44] baizon: Done. -- Thank you very much for your help. [08:21] i have a problem with compiz in xubuntu : when i want to reload window meneger from compiz fusion icon my monitor turn black , can enyone help me ?please [08:23] <[uzver]> florentin, i just use xfwm4 --replace or compiz --replace ccp commands [08:29] E: Command line option --replace is not understood [09:34] hi can someone help me change group owner on a folder [09:35] antisober552_: http://unixhelp.ed.ac.uk/CGI/man-cgi?chgrp [09:38] thx [10:59] hello [11:07] im getting crashes on install of 12.04 .. but allows me to continue [11:07] said timezone setup (?) crashed [11:07] .. "partman" [11:08] install just gives me ads -- no progress indicator@? [11:09] ie .. im informed, but not about whether its actually installing [11:12] weird [11:12] im ditching hte gui install [11:12] no way [11:12] its not capable of installing 12.04 [11:12] the people over in #ubuntu are of no help in this? [11:13] ah nvm sorry [11:13] thought you said ubuntu [11:13] just got up :P [11:17] xubumtu [11:17] x [11:17] no [11:18] i do not use ub [11:18] aye it was my mistake [11:21] rhin0, what's the problem? have you filed a bug? [11:42] whats the problem of the whole xubuntu 12.04 failing on a reasonably new pc [11:42] it never worked from the live disk (install) anyway [11:42] on 10.04 [11:42] it is a mistake to have xubuntu running to install [11:43] im sure somebody has filed it, as the install doesn't work [11:43] xubuntu 12.04 from the live running version of xubuntu, from a usb key [11:43] install [11:44] !doesn't work [11:44] Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too. [11:44] "doesn't install" is a reasonably good assessment of "doesn't work" [11:44] if something is built to perform one function and it fails then it "doesn't work" [11:44] to that I can only answer "doesn't help" [11:45] i am no tgoing to research, file a bug on the in stall [11:45] i am not re-assured [11:45] I think it's a slim chance 12.04 (again) will actaully work for me [11:45] enjoy your windows then [11:45] its looking very bad as the install failed [11:45] i do not run windows [11:45] what is that, black mail? there are many linuxes [11:45] well it may be something wrong with the data on the usb key, have your tried making it a live dvd drive again? [11:45] maybe I could cut a ced [11:46] im using the low level install .. alternative [11:46] bbl [11:46] so what is exactly the reason you came to the xubuntu support channel, if you don't want to try it? [11:46] good luck [11:54] i've been running xubuntu for 3 years sheep [11:54] linux for < 12 [11:54] whats more reliable for installation media -- cd or dvd -- reliable ./ faster .. dvd will be faster [11:55] i am about to buy cds or dvds [11:55] i think i'll get cds (cheaper) [11:55] before that I wasn't running windows [11:55] I've never run windows [11:56] i consider it an insult "good luck with windows [11:56] " [12:00] whats wrong with using windows? [12:00] ah s/hes gone [12:24] Hello [12:24] Hi [12:24] greetings [12:25] I was wondering if the only diff between Kubuntu and Xubuntu was the "candy coating". [12:26] KerrMD, the default applications are different. for instance, libre office in ubuntu and not in xubuntu [12:27] So does XFCE in Xubuntu use qt? [12:27] Or am I confused? [12:27] KerrMD, doesn't show up in my 12.04 [12:28] or at least no PACKAGE named qt [12:28] or at least no PACKAGE named qt* [12:28] think xfce uses gtk+ [12:28] but not 100% sure [12:28] The reason I ask is that I dislike Gnome anymore since 3.x and kde has gotten really heavy. I am looking into Xubuntu since the fedora community is a tad lacking imho. [12:28] KerrMD, lderan gtk is present in xubuntu [12:29] KerrMD, lubuntu is also quite light [12:29] awesome [12:29] I just want a desktop that works without all the plasma and whatnot stuff. I do not need a candy coating [12:30] KerrMD, you can install and use lxde or xfce4 on your stock ubuntu [12:31] Would it not be more prudent to install (X|L)ubuntu instead? [12:31] KerrMD, as you already have an installation, I'd suggest you test drive both interfaces, figure which one you prefer then get the actual OS... [12:33] What I have right now is Fedora 18. I am moving away because I am not liking the community too much and I have a tendency to gravitate back to the Debian based distros. As for Xubuntu and Lubuntu I imagine that the core is the same. [12:34] KerrMD, correctomundo [12:34] KerrMD, note that there is a new official ubuntu flavor ... gnome ubuntu [12:34] Gnome 2x I assume [12:34] er 2.x [12:34] KerrMD, can't say much more about it as I only run LTS ubuntustudio and have never touched it [12:35] UbuntuStudio? cannot say I am really familiar with that [12:36] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME [12:36] it is gnome 3 with gnome desktop [12:36] KerrMD, ah well then! multimedia creation packages built of xubuntu .. desktop publishing, graphics, music apps [12:37] Ah, I just got that from the site. I am not really much of a content creator. [12:38] KerrMD, good enough then. One thing I did change was I dropped the default office package and got libreoffice from the main site. [13:09] Sheesh, this thing has been DDing to /dev/sdc for what feels like forever. :( [13:10] :( [13:10] 8GB thumb drive taking a <800MB DD should not take too long I would think [13:11] Complain and it shal be done. Lol [13:12] Thanks for all the info. TTFN :) [13:42] Xubuntu 12.04.2 surprisingly after an upgrade and a new login shows a window without a title bar which I cannot delete. It shows a keyboard. When clicking on this keyboard e. g. the key "b", uxterm on the same workspace will show another letter "b" after the prompt. I suspect a relationship with Orca. But there is no orca process running. How to delete this window? [13:45] bullgard4: I would look into the autostarted applications in sessions and startup in settings [13:47] TheSheep: What do you mean by "sessions"? [13:50] bullgard4: if you go to "settings manager" in your "applications menu" there is a "startup and sessions" icon which holds settings for autostarted applications, among other things [13:51] bullgard4: I would look for anything like "on screen keyboard" there and uncheck it so that it doesn't start on the next login [13:59] TheSheep: Applications menu > Settings > Settings manager > Session and Startup > Application Autostart does not show activated anything similar to "on screen keyboard". [14:09] hello. I had ubuntu 12.04 and installed the gnome desktop because I'm rather dissappointed with unity. I ended up installing xubuntu on a friends machine, and playing around with it I find I rather liked it. I installed xubuntu-desktop on my machine, but I still have the lightdm greeter of vanilla precise. could someone advise me on how to get the xubuntu style greeter? [14:15] ntzrmtthihu777: Try this http://askubuntu.com/questions/174763/how-do-i-change-the-default-log-in-to-xubuntu-on-ubuntu-12-04 [14:17] KerrMD: havin a look, thankay. [14:17] Welcome :D [14:18] hmm, seems to be more of a unity thing here... [14:19] You want to change just hte login manager or the display manager as well? [14:21] well you've used vanilla precise? and obviously xubuntu, right? I'm looking to get the login screen of xubuntu. [14:21] xubuntu uses the same display manager as ubuntu [14:21] I am sorry to say this but it is bedtime. Not to sound like the RTFM group but Google is a wonderful resource for information. I wish you luck [14:22] ttfn all and nighty night [14:22] KerrMD: nah its cool. I've been googling on it, but nothing yet [14:22] it's just a different theme [14:22] TheSheep: exactly. how do I activate the xubuntu theme for lightdm? [14:22] ntzrmtthihu777: TheSheep is right. It's just skinned|themed differently [14:25] ntzrmtthihu777: do you have xubuntu-default-settings installed? [14:25] TheSheep: yeah, and I found my answer I think. [14:25] brb, testing [14:28] anyone running 12.10 here? (i need some stats wrt panel's mem-usage) [14:29] got it :D [14:33] now, installing xubuntu-desktop dragged in *alot* of packages that I'm not gonna be using, are they removable without scragging my install? [14:34] NOPE [14:34] oops [14:35] oops on capslock, or oops on wrong channel/advice? [14:38] ntzrmtthihu777: They were installed for a reason. Not always a good reason. I'd use synaptic (not software center) to remove what I don't want and pay close attention to what removing that one package will also remove. [14:38] yeah, such and such needs this, so and so needs that [14:38] yup...dependency hell. [14:39] well at least its not dll hell, lol [14:39] Slackware has a point...a time consuming, frustrating point. [14:39] * packetfrog lar lars [14:40] LAR [14:43] ntzrmtthihu777: by default all recommended packages also get installed [14:44] ntzrmtthihu777: if you want to avoid that you can e.g. do "sudo apt-get install $packagename --no-install-recommends" [14:44] yeah, but quite frankly I don't need ailseriot solitair [14:44] (synaptic also has a gui-checkbox in the settings to disable that feature) [14:44] easy enough to uninstall [14:44] yup. [14:45] I personally use apt-fast to install most things; does the change in synaptic affect it/apt-get? [14:45] yes [14:46] excellent. [14:50] question: is the terminal in from-the-iso xubuntu the same as from-the-iso ubuntu? [14:50] ntzrmtthihu777: potentially no, ubuntu uses gnome-terminal afaik and xubuntu uses xfce4-terminal [14:51] ntzrmtthihu777: xubuntu uses xfce4-terminal [14:51] ntzrmtthihu777: ubuntu uses gnome-terminal [14:51] gotcha. [14:51] I knew the latter, but not the former [14:51] functionally, any difference? [14:52] the xfce one will not load all the gnome libraries into memory... [14:53] meaning? [14:53] but I guess they both do a fine job of a terminal emulator [14:54] ntzrmtthihu777: meaning that it will probably start faster and use less memory when running [14:54] mhmm, I like that. [14:55] other than that, there are probably some small differences, but I used the gnome one long ago, so can't really tell [14:56] I get lsb_release bug reports that automatic reporting can not report, but crashing itself [14:56] it bugs me almost since 12.04 install [15:00] yeah, because quite frankly I don't need 2 programs that do the exact same thing [15:02] alright, ya'll use thunar instead of nautilus. same/similar level of functionality? [15:03] ntzrmtthihu777: You'll have more difficulties to cleanly remove one of them than saving that few MB will save space. [15:03] yeah. its seems dropbox needs nautilus :/ [15:04] ntzrmtthihu777: nautilus-data, not nautilus [15:07] I really like the customizability of the panels, lol. [16:05] hi, is it just me or has xubuntu just become very unstable. got a hard lock 2 day running now. [16:08] Hey #xubuntu, I've just removed the propriety nvidia drivers off my laptop, and the screen resolution is stuck at 640X480. I assume this is some kind of fallback mode, but I have no idea how to fix it. Any thoughts on where to start looking? [16:08] Deepfriedice: why not use them?.. [16:09] <[uzver]> Deepfriedice, maybe u need to install opensource driver - nouveau [16:09] They seemed to be causing issues with wine. Something to do with RandR or something. [16:10] .. check out whether nvidia-config made the file: /etc/X11/xorg.conf [16:10] (you may be able to just remove it and reboot, but back it up first :)) [16:11] uzver: I believe I have. nouveau is provided by xserver-xorg-video-nouveau, correct? [16:11] kgb: looking now. [16:12] # nvidia-xconfig: X configuration file generated by nvidia-xconfig [16:12] # nvidia-xconfig: version 304.48 (buildmeister@swio-display-x86-rhel47-05.nvidia.com) Sun Sep 9 21:29:02 PDT 2012 [16:13] right, so MAYBE, you could just remove it and log-out the session and reboot [16:13] big maybe, though =) [16:13] That explains why X was unhappy, the config files didn't match the installed driver [16:13] will do. [16:13] cool, cool, hope so..:) [16:18] kgb: It works, thanks! === daim2k5_Zzz is now known as daim2k5 === daim2k5 is now known as daim2k5_Zzz [18:02] hola soy nuevo aqui [18:02] !es | xubuntu200 [18:02] xubuntu200: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #xubuntu-es; escriba "/join #xubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro. Si nadie responde, puedes intentar preguntando en #ubuntu-es. [18:11] hello, just installed xubuntu. i have a little stupid question: where can we find the folders from an external usb plug? [18:11] open a file [18:11] and on the left hand you see if it is mounted [18:12] or windowskey + t and write thunar /home/ [18:16] ok, indeed, i was trying to plug my external disk, the pb comes from it. doesn 't detect it. detection ok with normal usb keys. [18:16] pull it out and in again. it should work [18:17] but I usually i go to my home folder and choose it from the left menu [18:17] no, i already tried a couple of times. the external disk makes a continuous bip bip... [18:18] xubuntu168: do you have some way to test the HD on a different comp? [18:20] xubuntu168:what is the name of your hd? try sudo mount thenameoftheHD [18:22] ok, just tested on another comp. no detection either. HD dead i guess. plus the bip bip, not normal anyway [18:23] any idea how to get back the data? probably need to go in a shop [18:26] xubuntu168: yep, what i though. might be the cable, do you have a short data cable [18:27] already tried with another cable. the bip bip is a sign it s dead i think [18:28] well, if the data is important stop messing with it now [18:28] yes, i ll try to get it fixed in a shop. tks anyway [18:31] xubuntu168: if the drive won't mount I would be surprised if a shop can help, you probably looking at a couple of hundred and a proper lab. [18:32] ok... well, probably give up in this case [18:34] xubuntu168: well, if you not that concerned about the data I'd let a shop have a go. [18:34] doesn't really matter, only pics and music [18:34] xubuntu168: couple of taps with the back of a screwdriver might work :) [18:35] :-) tks! i ll give it a try [18:35] xubuntu168: as a last resort, and a lot of shop will try on a no fix no fee [18:36] its official, I'm in love with xfce [18:36] yay [18:37] I got the compiz desktop grid effect without compiz [18:39] I'm the opposite, firefox has hard locked me two days running [18:41] :/ [19:27] hello again, i need to activate the microphone for skype. how can i do that? [19:30] have you checked the skype options? [19:31] under sound devices [19:32] yes but i cannot find the microphone options [19:32] ah its controlled by pulseaudio [19:34] if you go to your sound settings, by clicking on the speaker icon in the top bar or under multimedia in your programs list you can go to input devices [19:34] do you see your microphone in there? [19:53] Hello, I am brand new to linux / ubuntu - I just installed the os and used a guide to install drivers for my primary video card raedeon 7950. From what I can tell, the os doesn't recognize the second pcie video card - a pcie raedeon 6950. Could anyone give me a bit of advice? [19:54] It's a working video card. [20:52] what is the default font in xubuntu? [20:52] can anybody tell me that [20:54] Droid [20:55] droid mono [20:57] yes :) [20:57] thanks [20:57] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skype [20:58] skype is Estonian? [20:58] first time I read it [20:58] I though it was swedish === Kamal_ is now known as Guest12280 [22:20] http://soundray.org/linus/unreadablename.png this is on a fresh install of the 13.04 beta. Why is the name of the machine in such a colour that it's barely readable? [23:55] can anyone help me? [23:55] !help [23:55] Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience [23:56] trying to install xubuntu 13.04 beta 2 and the installer hangs on the "preparing to install Xubuntu screen" [23:56] same thing happens with ubuntu 13.04 installer [23:57] !help [23:57] Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience