=== defunctzombie is now known as defunctzombie_zz === defunctzombie_zz is now known as defunctzombie === freeflyi1g is now known as freeflying === defunctzombie is now known as defunctzombie_zz === defunctzombie_zz is now known as defunctzombie [13:08] aculich: hey I linked up with tim last week [13:08] marcoceppi: do you have the juju go PPA handy? [13:09] jcastro: ppa:juju/devel [13:09] ta [13:10] * davecheney melts into the background [13:10] hmm, so I've noticed we haven't written that down anywhere [13:10] jcastro: mgz and davey are in charged of putting juju somewhere more official [13:11] yeah, I'm writing the drafts for the getting started pages today [13:11] so we can flip them over on thursdayish [13:13] hum, I've been using the wrong PPA [13:27] jcastro - i'm doing a getting started as part of the go docs... [13:27] evilnickveitch: ok, so what do I do with the page on the website? [13:27] do we just remove it when newdocs lands? [13:28] jcastro - yes, thats what the thinking was, it should be able to go on Thursday, though the rest of the docs won't be finished [13:28] jcastro: we could could just update the header link to go to the getting started page of the docs as the doc layout is nearly identical to the website atm [13:29] that would be perfect! [13:29] evilnickveitch: I think the only thing we should do is add a little snippet for python users. [13:29] "Looking for older versions of Juju?" and then send them someplace. [13:29] hurrah! [13:30] heheh! yes, I can think [13:30] that would be a good idea. I will make sure to flag it up - i guess i can just point to the old docs (though that seems cruel) [13:31] maybe some sort of intermediary page [13:31] jcastro: here's an earlier draft of the design, for reference: http://hostmar.co/canonical/go-juju-docs-go/getting-started.html [13:31] evilnickveitch: well, if they're on python then i think giving them the old-non-changing docs would be the best bet [13:31] at least for thursday [13:32] jcastro, agreed. [13:34] man dude, that is looking _excellent_ btw [13:37] jcastro, thanks! marcoceppi has helped out a lot! [13:38] we're preserving URLs right? Like with rewrites and whatnot? [13:52] I take it the silence means we're burning the ships? :) [13:54] I think it means that no one knows who the we-s are in that context === wedgwood_away is now known as wedgwood [14:14] Does pyjuju work with raring on cloud providers? [14:17] yeah [14:17] well, it was for me last week [14:18] must have just been a bad bootstrap [14:22] man guys [14:22] just followed the directions [14:22] and deployed wp with juju-core with mysql [14:22] Just Worked(tm) [14:22] this will be awesome [14:38] 2013/04/22 14:38:23 ERROR agent died with no error [14:38] :) [14:39] hah! [14:39] gary_poster: hey, thanks for that tablet update last week [14:40] jcastro, np! Thanks for bug report. Sounds like it was a great event [14:41] hey so I think the only real problem I noticed is everytime m_3 went to deploy something the twitchiness of the click-to-hold + a touchpad gets a bit wonky [14:41] I so want to right click on the box [15:01] jcastro: sounds about right... was hard to catch a right click without a move involved too [15:02] * m_3 chalks it up to coffee... not nerves ;) === defunctzombie is now known as defunctzombie_zz [15:29] Have you guys ever set up a wildcard subdomain redirect scenario for scaling? I.e. have a single box redirecting / managing requests that need to be handled by specific boxes? I can go into more detail, but don't want to waste your guys' time. :) [17:27] SpamapS: any objections to the categories: thing in metadata.yaml as policy? [17:27] I know you don't like the entire idea. :) [17:27] jcastro: I am adamantly opposed to it. [17:28] its ridiculous and a waste of time. I wish you had brought it up at the summit so I could have lit it on fire :) [17:29] ok well, you hate it, but the gui team needs them to make the GUI look nice for 13.04 [17:29] so, how can I make you at least not care about it? :) [17:29] jcastro: no they don't [17:30] jcastro: use tags. Weight the tags. [17:30] I don't think they're doing that [17:31] jcastro: the reason I care about it is that categories are almost always poorly maintained in software [17:32] Its good to categorize flora/fauna, because you don't have whole new categories of flora/fauna every day [17:33] jcastro: go ahead and do it.. and while you're at it, tell yahoo to go back to categories too. :) [17:33] ok [17:33] well, as long as you don't hate me [17:33] I don't like categories either [17:34] but it won't matter [17:34] people will use google for 95% of the pagehits anyway [17:34] I lurve you all mang [17:34] just think this idea is a time filling "because we can't think of anything interesting to do" waste [17:34] which reminds me, is there any plan for the juju equivalent of apt-cache search? [17:34] sarnold: jitsu search [17:35] (I haven't really -looked-, but I'd like to know the apt-cache search and apt-cache show equivalents..) [17:35] sarnold: hits jujucharms.com live tho [17:35] SpamapS: if it saves me the effort... [17:36] nice, .29s :) hehe [17:37] thanks SpamapS :) [17:44] There's charm search as well, but that runs against launchpad [17:44] marcoceppi: branch proposed === fss_ is now known as fss [17:45] we need to sort out icons in policy too [17:46] marcoceppi: you're putting the svg template thing in charm tools right? [17:46] for `charm create`? [17:47] marcoceppi: hrm, that didn't find the first one I searched for.. ('charm search powerdns' didn't return the same results that 'jitsu search powerdns' returned..) [17:47] jcastro: yeah, I'll have a merge for that shortly [17:47] we need to merge that into docs too [17:47] but I am mulling waiting for newdocs [17:47] then just have that be the first submission to that [17:48] jcastro: or we could just tell evilnickveitch to slide it in as he writes them. Don't want to be too far out of sync. Though I guess that'd be a good first "test" merge [17:49] sure [17:50] jcastro: we should also document the workflow for submitting changes to the docs when newdocs land [17:50] http://askubuntu.com/questions/52063/how-do-i-contribute-documentation-to-juju [17:50] is what I use [17:50] ah, perfect [17:51] we need to snag the content from the mailing list wrt. that default image id stuff [17:51] marcoceppi, jcastro What am I signed up for now? [17:51] actually, doing that now [17:51] jcastro: it's already listed as depreciated in the docs, just need to update AU and make sure it's removed going forward [17:51] evilnickveitch: we need to add the icon stuff to policy, I sent you a mail just now [17:52] marcoceppi: on it [17:52] okay, cool [17:52] I also have a "contributing" page that I have been working on that will be okay to go live at the same time [17:53] It details the use of the HTML tags I have made use of, etc [17:54] cool [17:54] perfect [17:55] evilnickveitch: hey so what happens to things that you haven't converted yet? [17:55] will you just pull in the pages as is? [17:55] marcoceppi: hey so bkerensa approved my MP for the docs, lol [17:57] jcastro: merged [18:06] are you not entertained? [18:06] what's next! [18:08] jcastro: hmmm, we'll wait and see on that. I am planning on having all the user guide stuff ready by Thursday [18:08] mgz: which PPA will Juju 2.x live for 13.04? [18:08] stable releases I mean, not devel, unless we're reusing ppa:/juju/devel [18:09] jamespage: ^^ in case you know [18:16] jcastro: devel I would think [18:17] but we can work out if we want a stable-unstable one at the sprint in a few weeks [18:17] before actually getting 2.0 we don't need it [18:18] ack [18:39] hi, does gojuju work with lxc yet? I don't remember [18:40] hey jcastro. https://juju.ubuntu.com/docs/service-config.html (in "Creating charms") it says that config.yaml supports "str", "int" and "float" as types. We also see "boolean" and "string" used, and we support them in the GUI. (1) are there any other types? (2) The haproxy problem you saw was because we treat str values as text lines (no newlines) not text fields (with newlines) [18:40] ahasenack: nope [18:40] jcastro: ok, thanks [18:40] gary_poster: lots of sections of the docs are out of date [18:40] IOW the diff between if you want to fix it and submit a mp that would be <3 [18:40]