[06:44] good morning [06:45] Afternoon dholbach [06:45] hey benonsoftware [06:46] How's it going dholbach? [06:47] benonsoftware, very well - I came from a hiking trip last night - it was all so nice and quiet :) [06:47] I just uploaded some pictures earlier: https://plus.google.com/photos/109795858099658821877/albums/5869554657403717009 [06:47] Nice. :) [06:49] Looks great. :D [06:49] yeah, it is a beautiful place and I can well imagine making use of my hiking boots more in the next time :) [06:50] how are you doing? [06:53] I'm going good, just had my first week back at school. [07:31] aloha [07:44] Morning! [07:59] hey dpm, czajkowski, popey [07:59] morning dholbach [07:59] and everyone [07:59] * smartboyhw waves for an after school [07:59] hi smartboyhw [11:26] can somebody please help out and review the pages marked as "needs review" on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityWebsite? [11:26] it'd be much appreciated (and not too much work) [11:27] dholbach, em I will try to review some parts;P [11:27] thanks [11:30] dholbach, confirming: The governance page is just copying right? [11:31] eh? [11:31] dholbach, it looks like so:P [11:31] TBH I don't exactly know who provided the content [11:31] it looked good to me, but I thought it'd be good if somebody looked over it once more [11:32] dholbach, looking at Translations. [11:32] cool [11:35] dholbach, translation is OK except I added (United States) beside English [11:35] After all there is English (United Kingdom) [11:36] hum [11:36] dpm ^ [11:36] * dholbach doesn't want to get dragged into decisions like this :-) [11:37] :P [11:38] smartboyhw, dholbach, I'd suggest following the same approach as the rest of the platform and provide en-US documentation as the source, and then have any other translations in addition. This means en-US does not need to be added as a translation [11:39] dpm, no it means translating English (US) to other lang [11:40] smartboyhw, ah, I see. This is just an overview. I don't think we need to be that specific there, I think saying just English should be fine [11:40] dpm, OK [11:40] * smartboyhw deletes:P [11:40] smartboyhw, no worries, thanks a lot for reviewing! [11:47] smartboyhw, feel free to update the wiki with new statuses [11:47] dholbach, laters. [11:47] I might help to do support ones [11:47] great! :) [11:47] fantastic [11:47] some of the pieces of text just need a little bit of additional work [11:48] dholbach, yep. it's missing the Forums and the Answers (detailed explanation) though [11:48] smartboyhw, I saw some of them mentioned in other places though [11:48] dholbach, oh. [11:49] Forums is really a good way [11:49] To contribute [11:50] yeah [11:59] dholbach: did you setup a hangout on air for tvoss? [11:59] I scheduled one with him and others for today at 18:00 UTC [11:59] popey, no, what was it going to be about? [11:59] client sensor service [12:00] what's the one tomorrow? [12:00] 2013-04-23 14:00 UTC: Ricardo Salveti, Tony Espy, Michael Frey, Loïc Minier, Thomas Voß and Seth Forshee will talk about how to handle sensors in Ubuntu in general. [12:00] wtf [12:00] that's what rsalveti told me last week [12:00] I never heard about the one for tvoss for today [12:00] tvoss asked me to set it up too [12:00] its that very same one [12:00] I even invited everyone through gcal [12:00] so did i [12:00] 18 utc I can't make today [12:01] I'm happy to delete the other one if necessary [12:01] hang fire [12:02] dholbach: deleted mine [12:03] great [12:03] glad that's resolved [12:03] if only everything was that simple :) [12:06] * dholbach takes the dog for a walk and goes to buy some tea [12:06] \o/ tea [12:06] yeah, totally ran out [13:28] popey, tea! :) [13:29] anyone who wants to help review a few pieces of text for the new community web site? :) [13:47] hey tiagoscd [13:48] bom dia [13:49] mhall119, the test instance of the community website uses the markdown plugin right? [13:51] popey, the hangout got moved an hour earlier on tvoss' request - JFYI [13:52] hey dholbach [13:52] how are u? :) [13:53] doing well - thanks :) [13:53] how about you? [13:53] all right, thanks [13:53] :-) [13:53] I received your email today [13:54] thanks for reply the interview and sorry for not reply your last emails [13:54] no worries [13:54] it took me ages to reply to yours in the first place :) [13:55] my team are on vacation here on work, I'm having a hard month [13:55] damn - they're all gone for a months? [13:56] just for april [13:56] another week then :) [13:56] * dholbach hugs tiagoscd [13:57] dholbach: thanks, I need some hugs, heheh [13:57] we all do :) [13:57] hey jono [13:58] hey [13:58] hey dholbach [13:58] dholbach: yes, it uses the markdown plugin [13:58] jcastro, I heard you like markdown........................... [13:58] thanks mhall119 [13:59] dholbach: :-) [13:59] jcastro, how do I do

bla text
more text bla bla bla

? :) [14:04] morning! [14:04] you do it like this, first a blank line [14:04] then [14:04] - bullet point one [14:04] - bullet point 2 [14:04] but you need a full blank line ahead of them [14:04] everytime you need a br do a full blank line [14:05] dholbach: http://askubuntu.com/editing-help [14:05] but after a while you just memorize it [14:05] jcastro, cool - I'll try that out [14:10] jcastro, ok, that seems to generally work, but wordpress' markdown plugin seems to do some autoformatting of what I put into the textbox, so it doesn't work [14:10] elfy, can you add some Ubuntu Forums thing into http://pad.ubuntu.com/communitywebsite-contribute-support ? [14:10] why? [14:10] what is it? [14:11] elfy, the Community website for Ubuntu. [14:11] dholbach is leading the effort to rewrite it. [14:11] dholbach, dpm, jcastro, mhall119 can you please take a look at http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-raring/canonical-community-ubuntu-13.04-month-6.html - I want to get thi under control in the next few days [14:11] And it misses the Ubuntu Forums part for the suport [14:11] doesn't mean anything to me - I have no idea what you're talking about smartboyhw [14:12] jono, yep [14:12] hmmm [14:12] it looks like dpm has the most TODOs [14:12] where are my items? [14:12] what a slacker [14:12] lol [14:12] oh [14:12] mine are on the other one [14:12] jcastro, actually you are fine [14:12] which probably looks like this [14:12] elfy, .... [14:12] "Nice burndown, I like how it looks like a flat top." [14:13] dholbach, ^ please explain.... [14:13] jono, otp, I know, sorry working on it :/ [14:13] elfy, so we had ubuntu.com/community for a while, which went out of date and generally wasn't very inviting [14:13] elfy, so we're re-doing it and it will be a separate site - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityWebsite shows the current progress on things [14:13] dpm, np :-) [14:14] dholbach: I've not used the WP plugin, it doesn't have a raw markdown mode like it does for the normal thing? [14:14] elfy, smartboyhw said it'd be nice to include some informations about the forums there too [14:14] dholbach: what's answers.ubuntu.com? [14:14] jcastro, yeah, but when you hit the "update" button it does some autoformatting business [14:14] dholbach: I'll talk to FC about it and we'll look at it - but quite frankly we don't ever feel to be part of your community [14:14] jcastro, I don't know - I assume whoever put it in there meant answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu [14:15] I figured too [14:15] elfy? [14:15] elfy, what do you mean by "part of your community"? [14:15] jcastro, do you have a link to the page where that's on? [14:15] smartboyhw: I assume you did the AU section? [14:15] jcastro, nevermind - found it [14:16] and fixed it [14:18] .............. [14:18] jcastro, not me [14:18] jcastro, probably jrgifford [14:18] elfy: we should put something good on the page so people know how to get to use and use the forums [14:18] Dunno [14:19] jcastro: we will [14:20] popey: man, spotify is awesome, I don't know why I put it off until now [14:20] it's like super-pandora [14:20] thanks elfy - as this page will be quite prominent, it should help a lot of new folks find the forums [14:20] dholbach: I've bookmarked it, not working for a couple of days - will look then [14:20] * dholbach hugs elfy [14:20] dholbach: sort of like it used to be when you installed from the iso ;) [14:21] elfy, no, this time it will be a GOOD, very prominent page ;-) [14:21] I has logs now :D [14:21] elfy, it's a community effort, so let's make it happen together :) [14:22] we've been trying to do that for almost 10 years ;) [14:22] dpm, with the community website being a wordpress site with individual pages for all the bits of text, do I assume rightly that making translations happen would be something like adding the same amount of subpages for every language manually? [14:23] dholbach: anyway - I'll talk to those who need to be talked with and work on it over next couple of days [14:23] elfy, all work on it will be appreciated :) [14:23] rock on! [14:35] bkerensa: ping! [14:39] mhall119: come back, all is forgiven! [14:45] jono, do you think you could add an original Jono Bacon quote® to http://pad.ubuntu.com/communitywebsite-frontpage? not sure who brought up the idea, but I think it's a good one :) [14:46] heh [14:47] dholbach, I finished the Answers part of the support page. [14:48] smartboyhw, and? what's your verdict? better than my usual /quit message? :-P [14:48] Should we ask somebody from the IRC Council to do the "You can do support in #ubuntu too!" [14:48] dholbach, that's much better:P [14:48] smartboyhw, so apart from the #ubuntu bit we're ready to go on that one? [14:48] dholbach, but why is Join an Ubuntu Local Community team and help people near you! http://loco.ubuntu.com [14:49] as a support thign? [14:49] s/thign/thing/ [14:49] people in your local group can help you, no? [14:49] it might not be the most immediate option, but I saw how many in Berlin found it helpful [14:50] dholbach, add it to the last thing then. sadly I know nothing about LoCos. maybe czajkowski can help? [14:50] some carried their Desktop computers and CRT monitors to meetings just so somebody could fix them :) [14:50] He's after all in the LoCo Council:p [14:51] s/He/She :) [14:51] dholbach, :-) [14:51] dholbach, sorry I forgotten:P [14:51] but coolbhavi might be able to help as well [14:51] he's on the LoCo Council too [14:52] dholbach, speaking about this: We really should run a script out of http://pad.ubuntu.com/communitywebsite-help-keepup-blogs :P [14:52] one step at a time [14:52] someone ping me [14:52] what's up [14:52] czajkowski, yeah! [14:52] for now I think it's important that we get something out there [14:52] dholbach, :) [14:52] we can add all kinds of crazy stuff later [14:52] dholbach, any help required? [14:53] czajkowski, http://pad.ubuntu.com/communitywebsite-contribute-support we would like to ask you to add some LoCo support thing in http://pad.ubuntu.com/communitywebsite-contribute-support [14:53] Oops:P [14:53] coolbhavi, 6 [14:53] ^ [14:53] * smartboyhw bangs his keyboard [14:53] coolbhavi: SergioMenesesAFK https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityWebsite we should talk alater about this [14:53] * czajkowski gives smartboyhw a cup of tea, relax [14:53] hugs! [14:53] czajkowski, :) [14:53] dholbach, where's that *test instance* BTW? [14:54] czajkowski, ah :-) [14:54] http://91.189.93.108 [14:54] smartboyhw, ^ [14:54] dholbach, I would like to be added as contact for the support page then:) [14:54] If you don't mind:) [14:54] smartboyhw, feel free to add yourself to the wiki [14:54] the more the merrier [14:55] dholbach, I would change the status of the translations page to "Needs copying (to test instance) then" [14:55] cool [14:55] dholbach, cool website btw :-) [14:55] progress *\o/* [14:56] it's usually a good thing :p [14:56] coolbhavi: you around at 17:30 UTC today ? [14:56] dholbach, done \o/ [14:57] yeehaw [14:57] czajkowski, ll try to be as it will be 23.00 here [14:57] coolbhavi: ah no worries, tomrorwo when you'r eonline shout and we can do a hangout and catch up [14:57] tuesday has to be less busy than monday [14:57] dholbach: do you know who I need to talk to to get something changed on the fridge calendar? [14:57] elfy, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fridge/Calendar#Adding_Events_to_the_Calendar [14:58] czajkowski, sure btw I am replying to your mail [14:58] not add - change :) [14:58] dholbach: ^^ [14:58] I think that's the way you change things too [14:58] coolbhavi: cool [14:58] Where's balloons?:( [14:58] smartboyhw, ill [14:58] not around today AFAIK [14:58] dholbach, srsly? :( [14:58] yes [14:59] smartboyhw: we are allowed holidays :) [14:59] dpm, will be just a min, baby transition in process [14:59] dholbach, surely, will get a quite together [14:59] * smartboyhw would want somebody to remove the QA meetings in the Fridge calendar, it wasn't held for a full cycle [14:59] dholbach: mmm - not sure how that would work then - but thanks anyway [14:59] czajkowski, I know. [14:59] Just wondering:( [14:59] elfy, the people in #ubuntu-news might be able to help out [14:59] jono, np :) [14:59] dholbach: k - thanks [15:04] smartboyhw, http://91.189.93.108/contribute/translations/ [15:04] dholbach, Whoa! GREAT!@ [15:04] \o/ [15:05] BTW is this the Catalan -l10n team working? [15:05] I mean the photo in the link [15:05] smartboyhw, yes, if it's dpm in there, that's the Catalan mafia [15:05] dholbach, :P he is:P [15:05] smartboyhw, :-) [15:06] smartboyhw, and now... one piece of text at a time :-D [15:15] dholbach, :-D [15:16] http://91.189.93.108/help-information/meeting-other-ubuntu-users/local-communities/ [15:17] I like it... there's more and more green on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityWebsite now :) [15:17] dholbach, \o/ [15:17] put green and green together: That's DONE:P [15:19] dholbach: deep down you;re irish with your love of green :) [15:19] I must be :) [15:19] czajkowski, +1 [15:20] * dholbach is wearing a green hoodie today [15:20] dholbach: thanks - fridge all sorted [15:20] elfy, rock! [15:20] dholbach, give us a photo of you wearing it:P [15:21] * smartboyhw can (sort of) tease dholbach then:P [15:26] smartboyhw, http://daniel.holba.ch/temp/2013-04-22-172438.jpg - good enough? that's the best I could get out of "cheese" [15:26] dholbach, you rather look like Tom Cruise in this one:P [15:26] it's a bit green dholbach :| [15:26] who wears green :p [15:26] elfy, yeah, that's what the discussion above was about :) [15:26] * smartboyhw directs amplified laughter at dholbach :P [15:27] elfy, it's Spring - got to start wearing some colours again! :) [15:27] dholbach, should I ping someone from IRCC to help add the IRC help things into the "support" thing? (You haven't answered:)) [15:27] dholbach, green is really a good colour in spring [15:27] dholbach: +1 to that [15:27] sure [15:28] smartboyhw, sure :) [15:28] dholbach: I need the lamp :) [15:28] the lamp? [15:32] dholbach: looks like a lamp by the window :) [15:32] ahhh yes :) === smartboyhw_ is now known as smartboyhw [15:33] IIRC it was a present, but I think you can get it in every IKEA store [15:33] I just need the outside - cat thought it useful as a scratching post one evening :( [15:33] dholbach: IKEA is very popular in HK. [15:34] elfy, ugh, I can imagine how the lamp looked afterwards [15:34] indeed ;) [15:34] smartboyhw, that seems to be the same everywhere :) [15:34] lol [15:34] possibly not burma [15:37] elfy: And North Korea:P [15:38] probably the next easy ones from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityWebsite are all the ones which are "needs review" [15:39] if somebody could skim through them and give me a +1, I'll copy them over as well [15:40] dholbach: Looking [15:41] dholbach: Development looks really awesome and detailed:) +1 [15:41] yeehaw [15:44] dholbach: For documentation, I'm unsure about the last part. [15:45] smartboyhw, can you leave a comment in the pad page and/or on the wiki? [15:45] The BT has been inactive for quite a while. It's getting revived now, but they are calling on removing focus groups [15:45] dholbach: Can't now in mobile. [15:46] ok [15:46] smartboyhw, do you know who we could contact about the beginners team's focus groups? [15:46] I do [15:47] dholbach… Ask elfy, the Forums guys are experts in BT. +1 for the OnAir pages, BTW. [15:48] smartboyhw, 谢谢 [15:48] dholbach: Wow thanks for saying thank you in Chinese. Let me translate Thank You into German first:P [15:48] "danke" :) [15:49] dholbach: I'll check out BT doc stuff for you [15:49] elfy, perfect - I think smartboyhw was referring to one of the last paragraphs in http://pad.ubuntu.com/communitywebsite-contribute-documentation [15:49] yea - saw it [15:49] dholbach: Danke! And as for the governance thing, although it's copied it's still good nowadays. [15:50] So +1 [15:50] smartboyhw, perfect [15:50] let me update the page [15:50] smartboyhw, 多谢 - let's see how translate.google.com pronounces it and let's see how long I can remember it ;-) [15:51] dholbach: :-) [15:52] dholbach: mailed someone who should know, I'll deal with the page as soon as I know [15:52] elfy, thanks a bunch! [15:52] I like the look of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityWebsite now [15:52] looks like we're actually getting somewhere :) [15:53] dholbach: :) [15:54] dholbach: you know if I'm online I'm usually about - if you needed something reviewing, looking at I'm usually also happy to help where I can ;) [15:54] excellent [15:54] \o/ [15:55] if we get the missing content together quickly, we should hopefully be able to get a database dump of the test instance copied into a real site [15:55] which would give us a very nice first cut of community.u.c [15:55] and then we can go about adding all the crazy ideas :) [15:55] dholbach: LOL [15:56] dholbach: What sort of crazy ideas we have in the queue? ;P [15:57] too many, as always ;) [15:57] dholbach: ROFL [15:57] dholbach, sorry, I wasn't ignoring you, I've been in calls until now. Wordpress does not fully support translations, but we could install a plugin so that translations are a bit nicer to do than publishing separate pages. I have to remind myself of which plugin was it which could do that, and it would then serve the right page according to the browser language [15:58] smartboyhw, indeed, that was the Catalan team at work :) [15:58] dpm, I'll drop you an email [15:58] cool [15:58] dpm: :) [16:00] http://91.189.93.108/contribute/developers/ [16:00] and now call time [16:00] dholbach, dpm, mhall119 call [16:01] dholbach: Nice page! [16:50] dholbach, the developers page on the community site is looking good! [16:51] dpm, yeah, we're slowly getting there :) [16:51] oh, and the other ones too :) [16:56] more green: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityWebsite :-) [16:57] all right [16:57] time to get some dinner and get outside for a bit :) [16:57] see you all tomorrow! === cjohnston_ is now known as cjohnston === toddyhb is now known as toddy [18:57] jono: any word on the certs? [18:58] bkerensa, not yet [18:58] bkerensa, getting close, just finalizing the new budgets [18:58] and then I can pull the trigger [18:58] :D [18:58] few things blocked on the budgets right now [19:39] pleia2: I can't see you :( https://twitter.com/OpenStack/status/326419670687162368/photo/1 [19:40] I can see Julie from ireland there though :D [19:42] czajkowski: I'm below the woman with the red jacket [19:42] * elfy thought so - but wasn't going to join in :) [19:56] jcastro, can we push back our call a little while I finish something up? [19:56] sure [20:01] thanks, jcastro [20:04] pleia2: ohhh [20:04] pleia2: my mate julie is the one with the redhat on her [20:04] we were in college together. [20:09] cool [20:27] jcastro, free now? [20:28] yep [20:28] let me pause the MEGADETH. [20:28] joining [20:29] jcastro, joining now [21:08] jcastro: the juju video still going strong :) [21:13] \o/ [21:16] jcastro the juju evangelist: https://plus.google.com/115750270177636397262/posts/7Z42ea5vRTc [21:16] :D