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| jdstrand | hi! | 16:33 |
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| tyhicks | hello | 16:33 |
| jdstrand | #startmeeting | 16:34 |
| meetingology | Meeting started Mon Apr 22 16:34:03 2013 UTC. The chair is jdstrand. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 16:34 |
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| jdstrand | The meeting agenda can be found at: | 16:34 |
| jdstrand | [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/Meeting | 16:34 |
| jdstrand | [TOPIC] Announcements | 16:34 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Announcements | ||
| chrisccoulson | yo | 16:34 |
| jdstrand | next week we'll be at a sprint and I believe the current meeting time is in conflict with a meeting at the sprint, so we'll skip | 16:34 |
| jdstrand | [TOPIC] Weekly stand-up report | 16:35 |
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| jdstrand | I'll go first | 16:35 |
| jdstrand | install audits went well last week, nothing surprising or particularly important | 16:35 |
| jdstrand | I'm on triage this week | 16:35 |
| jdstrand | I've got openjdk-7 updates for this week | 16:36 |
| jdstrand | also monthly planning (april review, may planning) | 16:36 |
| jdstrand | and sprint preparation. if there's time, I'll take something off the list | 16:36 |
| jdstrand | sbeattie: you're up | 16:36 |
| sbeattie | I'm focused on workitems again this week, on the security-1304-appisolation-example blueprint | 16:37 |
| sbeattie | I'll specifically be working on the prototype launcher bits | 16:37 |
| sbeattie | as well as prepping for the sprint | 16:37 |
| sbeattie | and that's pretty much it for me | 16:37 |
| sbeattie | tyhicks: you're up | 16:37 |
| tyhicks | I'm continuing work on the dbus regression tests from last week | 16:38 |
| tyhicks | then I'll move to ' initial work to query confinement labeling of sender' and 'dbus daemon, pass labeling info on messages so security context can be queried by recipient' | 16:39 |
| tyhicks | I'll have some sprint prep, too | 16:39 |
| tyhicks | that's it for me | 16:39 |
| tyhicks | jjohansen: you're up | 16:39 |
| jjohansen | I'll be running around in panic, err that is prepping for the sprint too | 16:40 |
| jjohansen | I have some bugs to finish chasing down, and then I'll be back to working on signals and other bits of ipc | 16:40 |
| jdstrand | jjohansen: what are those bugs in? | 16:41 |
| jjohansen | jdstrand: good question, I chased one down to my kernel, one to the library and I think one is in dbus, I need to verify that and if so I'll pull tyhicks in | 16:42 |
| jdstrand | heh, ok | 16:42 |
| jjohansen | jdstrand: oh! I should have said dev bugs :) | 16:42 |
| jjohansen | thats it from me sarnold your up | 16:43 |
| sarnold | I'm working on the mysql update today, hoping to finish testing on it late today (those tests are immensely long, sheesh) | 16:44 |
| sarnold | probably publishing tomorrow | 16:44 |
| sarnold | when I'm done with that, I'll look at bouncy castle, and if there's any time left, I may give a follow-up audit to one of the packages I NAKd for the forums; the company was kind enough to send me another version for review after fixing my previous complaints. (woo) | 16:45 |
| sarnold | I'm also on community :) | 16:45 |
| sarnold | that's it for me, chrisccoulson, your turn | 16:45 |
| chrisccoulson | hi :) | 16:46 |
| chrisccoulson | so, i spent a bit of time investigating one of the regressions that appeared in firefox 20. got a good handle on that now, but not sure there's much more we can do with it for now | 16:47 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: what is the regression? | 16:47 |
| chrisccoulson | jdstrand, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=858782 | 16:48 |
| ubottu | Mozilla bug 858782 in Extension Compatibility "crash in uGlobalMenuDocListener::DoHandleMutations with GlobalMenu on Ubuntu" [Critical,New] | 16:48 |
| chrisccoulson | i'm a bit concerned that if i fix the crash in our addon code, i'll just push the problem elsewhere | 16:48 |
| chrisccoulson | (see the last comment) | 16:48 |
| jdstrand | huh, interesting | 16:49 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, i wonder if this has the potential to cause other problems | 16:49 |
| jdstrand | I guess we'll see what upstream says? | 16:50 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, i'm waiting for them to comment now | 16:50 |
| chrisccoulson | also, did some more work with chromium testing. trying to figure out if there's a way to make the installed test suite smaller (each test binary effectively links in a copy of the browser) | 16:51 |
| chrisccoulson | we also resolved some confusion regarding qtscript/webkit/v8/JSC :) | 16:51 |
| chrisccoulson | and i'm currently trying to figure out why >100 firefox tests started failing over the weekend :( | 16:52 |
| chrisccoulson | actually, make that nearly 200 ;) (191 to be exact) | 16:53 |
| chrisccoulson | i think that's me done | 16:53 |
| jdstrand | [TOPIC] Highlighted packages | 16:54 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Highlighted packages | ||
| jdstrand | The Ubuntu Security team will highlight some community-supported packages that might be good candidates for updating and or triaging. If you would like to help Ubuntu and not sure where to start, this is a great way to do so. | 16:54 |
| jdstrand | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/UpdateProcedures for details and if you have any questions, feel free to ask in #ubuntu-security. To find out other ways of helping out, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/GettingInvolved. | 16:54 |
| jdstrand | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/mongodb.html | 16:54 |
| jdstrand | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/proftpd-dfsg.html | 16:54 |
| jdstrand | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/mc.html | 16:54 |
| jdstrand | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/cowbell.html | 16:54 |
| jdstrand | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/falconpl.html | 16:54 |
| jdstrand | [TOPIC] Miscellaneous and Questions | 16:55 |
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| jdstrand | I have one, jjohansen, sbeattie and tyhicks> can you comment on http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-raring/canonical-security-ubuntu-13.04-month-6.html? I need to prepare the monthly work items status for tomorrow. are we on track to be done by friday/tuesday? | 16:56 |
| jjohansen | for /me friday - no, tuesday maybe | 16:57 |
| jdstrand | jjohansen, sbeattie, tyhicks> and it you haven't already, can you update your work items | 16:57 |
| sbeattie | jdstrand: sure | 16:57 |
| tyhicks | jdstrand: 'dbus - update aa-logparser, including test' is not likely for Friday, but Tuesday is still a possibility | 16:58 |
| tyhicks | I think everything else is still on track for me | 16:58 |
| jdstrand | I'm not liking how I need to give a status update a week early... I will have to discuss that and/or modify our planning | 17:00 |
| jdstrand | sbeattie: are you on track to be done friday/tuesday? | 17:01 |
| sbeattie | jdstrand: yeah | 17:01 |
| jdstrand | ok cool | 17:01 |
| jdstrand | Does anyone have any other questions or items to discuss? | 17:02 |
| jdstrand | sbeattie, tyhicks, jjohansen, sarnold, chrisccoulson: thanks! | 17:05 |
| jdstrand | #endmeeting | 17:05 |
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| meetingology | Meeting ended Mon Apr 22 17:05:25 2013 UTC. | 17:05 |
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| tyhicks | thanks | 17:05 |
| sbeattie | jdstrand: thanks! | 17:05 |
| sarnold | thanks jdstrand :) | 17:05 |
| jjohansen | thanks jdstrand | 17:05 |
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| bdrung | !dmb-ping | 18:29 |
| ubottu | bdrung, ScottK, Laney, micahg, barry, tumbleweed, stgraber: DMB ping | 18:29 |
| bdrung | meeting in half an hour | 18:29 |
| ScottK | Yep. | 18:30 |
| bdrung | !dmb-ping | 19:00 |
| ubottu | bdrung, ScottK, Laney, micahg, barry, tumbleweed, stgraber: DMB ping | 19:00 |
| bdrung | #startmeeting | 19:00 |
| meetingology | Meeting started Mon Apr 22 19:00:55 2013 UTC. The chair is bdrung. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 19:00 |
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| bdrung | #topic Review of previous action items | 19:01 |
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| ScottK | \o | 19:01 |
| tumbleweed | hi | 19:01 |
| bdrung | stgraber, barry, and laney said via mail that they (probably) won't attend the meeting | 19:02 |
| ScottK | But we have their votes on the applications. | 19:03 |
| ScottK | Short version of the action items is no change, nothing done. | 19:03 |
| bdrung | i will do the summary of sweetshark's recent sponsorship as soon as possible. | 19:04 |
| bdrung | we can discuss the review separation of PPU from membership at the end of the meeting if time permits | 19:05 |
| bdrung | #topic PerPackageUploader Application: Sebastian Heinlein | 19:05 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: PerPackageUploader Application: Sebastian Heinlein | ||
| ScottK | I'm ready to vote. | 19:06 |
| bdrung | glatzor doesn't seem to be online | 19:06 |
| * micahg-work has questions | 19:06 | |
| * tumbleweed would be interested in chatting with the applicant, but I'm fairly sure I know how I'd vote | 19:08 | |
| bdrung | let skip him for now | 19:08 |
| bdrung | #topic PerPackageUploader Application: Gunnar Hjalmarsson | 19:08 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: PerPackageUploader Application: Gunnar Hjalmarsson | ||
| GunnarHj | Good evening, DMB! | 19:09 |
| bdrung | #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GunnarHj/PerPackageUploaderApplication | 19:09 |
| bdrung | GunnarHj: hi. can you introduce yourself? | 19:09 |
| GunnarHj | I started with Ubuntu in 2010, and instantly noticed that I wasn't able to (easily) set languages and regional formats to my liking. Noticed bug 553162, and started to work on it. Seems like I got stuck with this problem area. ;-) | 19:09 |
| ubottu | bug 553162 in gdm (Ubuntu) "Set $LANGUAGE if the user picks a different locale in gdm, so that language-selector and gdm stop disagreeing" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/553162 | 19:09 |
| GunnarHj | I'm an i18n bug fixer, and you may want to consider me an i18n watchdog, since I tend to jump at bugs in many different packages as soon I smell a problem with respect to language and locale handling etc. | 19:09 |
| ScottK | I'm ready to vote. | 19:09 |
| GunnarHj | language-selector and accountsservice are the packages I most often come back to, and I know quite well by now what they do. | 19:09 |
| GunnarHj | I have a question: If you would accept my application, would it make me an ubuntu-dev member, or would that be a separate application? (It would be nice to be able to post to the ubuntu-devel list without moderation.) | 19:09 |
| tumbleweed | you'd be an ubuntu-dev member (as things stand right now) | 19:10 |
| GunnarHj | tumbleweed: Great, thanks. | 19:10 |
| micahg-work | well, I think we'd fix the moderation if we change the base dev group, but we can discuss that later | 19:11 |
| GunnarHj | I'm already an ubuntu-member and bug control member. | 19:11 |
| micahg-work | GunnarHj, have you collaborated with Debian at all WRT any of the i18n stuff and specifically accountservice since that's what you're seeking upload rights for | 19:13 |
| micahg-work | *accountsservice | 19:13 |
| GunnarHj | With Debian, yes absolutely, but not with respect to accountsservice since my interest there is Ubuntu specific stuff only. | 19:14 |
| GunnarHj | Not sold to Debian, at least not yet. :) | 19:14 |
| micahg-work | GunnarHj, the changes you're making only affect Ubuntu, not Debian? | 19:17 |
| GunnarHj | micahg-work: Yes. | 19:17 |
| micahg-work | and I guess those get pushed straight upstream then? | 19:17 |
| GunnarHj | micahg-work: Yes, but they are patches that Debian does not apply (at least that's my understanding). | 19:18 |
| bdrung | GunnarHj: are there any intentions to get the patches upstream? the latest package version contains 15 patches. | 19:19 |
| GunnarHj | bdrung: The most obvious one I tried to get upstream yet another level, but nothing has happened so far. GNOME seems not very interested in ideas from other distros... | 19:21 |
| micahg-work | GunnarHj, FTR, alessio is usually fine with Ubuntu specific patches being forwarded to Debian (might make the maintenance burden easier) | 19:23 |
| bdrung | GunnarHj: did you get no response or was the patch rejected? | 19:23 |
| GunnarHj | bdrung: Neither. Response, then silence. | 19:23 |
| GunnarHj | micahg-work: I'll take your tip and try to do something about Debian. | 19:24 |
| micahg-work | GunnarHj, he might even be up for a co-maintainer | 19:24 |
| bdrung | sometimes you need to poke upstream more than once and sometimes improving the patch is required to get it accepted. | 19:24 |
| GunnarHj | micahg-work: Ok. | 19:25 |
| micahg-work | GunnarHj, maybe desrt can help you get the patches upstream (I see him in the commit log) | 19:25 |
| bdrung | getting patches as upstream as possible reduces the maintenance burden. | 19:25 |
| micahg-work | GunnarHj, are you familiar with the various freezes and exception processes? | 19:25 |
| GunnarHj | Please note that the Ubuntu patches in accountsservice presuppose a different approach to part of language locale handling in general. It's a little complicated... | 19:26 |
| GunnarHj | micahg-work: Yes. Know them quite well by now. | 19:26 |
| micahg-work | GunnarHj, sure, we just like to encourage applicants to collaborate with upstreams where possible to reduce the maintenance burden over time | 19:28 |
| micahg-work | GunnarHj, are you subscribed to ubuntu-devel-announce? | 19:29 |
| GunnarHj | micahg-work: I fully understand and agree on the goal to reduce the maintenance burden. | 19:29 |
| GunnarHj | I'm subscribed to -announce. | 19:29 |
| bdrung | GunnarHj: you stated that you dislike the amount of bugs. I agree with you there. Do you have any other idea than throwing more man power at fixing bugs? | 19:32 |
| bdrung | there are initiatives like DEP-8 and automated testing that seem to aim in the right direction. | 19:33 |
| GunnarHj | bdrung: Well, that would be to test more carefully before uploading, I suppose. ;-) | 19:33 |
| micahg-work | FTR, I think most of the bugs are really upstream bugs, there are too many, but no software is perfect | 19:33 |
| micahg-work | unfortunately, I think bug control membership has been about the same since I joined about 4 years ago, that certainly doesn't help | 19:34 |
| GunnarHj | Agree that the automated testing initiative sounds good. | 19:34 |
| GunnarHj | Haven't involved myself in it yet, though. | 19:35 |
| bdrung | at least bugs lead to people joining the developer teams. take GunnarHj or me as example. ;) | 19:35 |
| GunnarHj | Indeed. :) | 19:35 |
| bdrung | let's vote | 19:36 |
| bdrung | #vote Should Gunnar Hjalmarsson get upload rights for language-selector and accountsservice? | 19:37 |
| meetingology | Please vote on: Should Gunnar Hjalmarsson get upload rights for language-selector and accountsservice? | 19:37 |
| meetingology | Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me) | 19:37 |
| micahg-work | +1 | 19:37 |
| meetingology | +1 received from micahg-work | 19:37 |
| tumbleweed | +1 | 19:38 |
| meetingology | +1 received from tumbleweed | 19:38 |
| bdrung | +1 | 19:38 |
| meetingology | +1 received from bdrung | 19:38 |
| ScottK | +1 | 19:38 |
| meetingology | +1 received from ScottK | 19:38 |
| ScottK | +3 from mail too. | 19:38 |
| bdrung | #endvote | 19:39 |
| meetingology | Voting ended on: Should Gunnar Hjalmarsson get upload rights for language-selector and accountsservice? | 19:39 |
| meetingology | Votes for:4 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 | 19:39 |
| meetingology | Motion carried | 19:39 |
| bdrung | GunnarHj: congrats. | 19:39 |
| ScottK | Can we go over glaztor's application now like we would for an email vote? | 19:39 |
| GunnarHj | Thanks guys! Won't misuse my new access rights. :) | 19:39 |
| ScottK | (there's no actual requirement the person be present) | 19:39 |
| micahg-work | no, since I have questions for the applicant | 19:39 |
| bdrung | #topic PerPackageUploader Application: Sebastian Heinlein | 19:40 |
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| micahg-work | well, I shouldn't say no, but I have questions for the applicant :) | 19:40 |
| ScottK | micahg-work: He's already +4, so why block the application? | 19:40 |
| bdrung | ScottK: we used to have the application on the meeting to ask questions | 19:40 |
| ScottK | Nothing says you can't ask questions anyway. | 19:40 |
| ScottK | Yes and so we'll defer it two week, he'll get at least +4 next time and take up an application slot that maybe someone else would use. | 19:41 |
| bdrung | but what does asking question bring if you don't get an answer? | 19:41 |
| micahg-work | ScottK, depending on the answers, people can change their minds... | 19:42 |
| micahg-work | and the vote needs +4 total, not just 4 +1s... | 19:42 |
| ScottK | Then we need to document that a meeting is required and votes can't be done over email. | 19:42 |
| ScottK | Right, but is anyone considering -1? | 19:42 |
| ScottK | I could image a +0, but really. | 19:42 |
| bdrung | micahg-work: can we move the application to email? | 19:43 |
| micahg-work | email votes are at the discretion of the DMB | 19:43 |
| micahg-work | bdrung, I suppose, should I send my questions by E-Mail? | 19:43 |
| ScottK | If we can do it on email, why can't we do it right now? | 19:43 |
| bdrung | ScottK: a meeting is normally required, but we can do it over email for special cases. | 19:43 |
| micahg-work | bdrung, is there a pressing need that it can't wait 2 weeks? we usually do e-mail when it's difficult for an applicant to attend a meeting | 19:44 |
| ScottK | There's never a pressing need and things keep getting kicked down the road. | 19:44 |
| ScottK | Look at the impressive DMB progress on open actions in the last two weeks. | 19:44 |
| * bdrung promises improving on processing action items. | 19:45 | |
| bdrung | I like to talk to glatzor on IRC before voting to hear his answers to micahg's question and to ask him questions. | 19:46 |
| ScottK | OK. Looks like a victory for process over substance, but that's what some people think is important. | 19:47 |
| bdrung | there are no applications for the next meeting and therefore I see no pressing need for moving the application to email. | 19:48 |
| ScottK | Will someone take the action to email glatzor and tell him we decided to wait two weeks. | 19:49 |
| bdrung | I propose to ask glatzor if he is fine with attending the next meeting or if he want to be asked via email to avoid the waiting time. | 19:49 |
| ScottK | Sounds good. Will you do it? | 19:50 |
| bdrung | okay, i will to it as part of the chair's duties. | 19:50 |
| bdrung | #topic Any other business | 19:52 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Any other business | ||
| micahg-work | meeting time change for 14:00? | 19:52 |
| ScottK | What about PPU/membership? | 19:52 |
| ScottK | I thought that was on the agenda? | 19:53 |
| ScottK | micahg-work: Who asked for it to be changed? | 19:53 |
| micahg-work | I did | 19:53 |
| bdrung | let's discuss the time change before PPU/membership. | 19:53 |
| ScottK | Oh. | 19:53 |
| micahg-work | we took a poll, 15:00 UTC Mon seemed to be fine | 19:53 |
| micahg-work | unanimous in fact | 19:53 |
| ScottK | It's fine for me. | 19:53 |
| micahg-work | 13:00 was also on the poll, but I forgot I had a previous commitment | 19:53 |
| micahg-work | so, barring any objections, can we announce the new time for the early meeting? | 19:54 |
| bdrung | IIRC there was a question about using UTC or DST. | 19:54 |
| micahg-work | ah, right | 19:54 |
| micahg-work | I'm not sure we settled that one, 15:00 UTC in the winter would be problematic right now | 19:55 |
| bdrung | did we come to a conclusion there? | 19:55 |
| micahg-work | I'd prefer 16:00 london time if I had a choice | 19:56 |
| micahg-work | that should work for me year round... | 19:56 |
| micahg-work | but that moves the winter meeting 2 hours ahead of where it was | 19:57 |
| bdrung | so 16:00 and 21:00 London time? when do they switch the time? | 19:57 |
| micahg-work | hrm, that's the other problem I guess, US switches earlier/later than London | 19:58 |
| bdrung | We switch at the last Sunday in March/October in Germany IIRC. | 19:58 |
| micahg-work | it's easier for me to remember UTC...but it's only 4 weeks out of the year that it's off | 19:58 |
| micahg-work | same in London as Germany | 19:59 |
| ScottK | I'd suggest we either decide based on poll results or go back to the list since we're short three people. | 20:01 |
| ScottK | Personally, I'm flexible. | 20:02 |
| bdrung | let's sum it up | 20:02 |
| micahg-work | 15:00 UTC works for now, need to decide if we're switching to GMT or keeping UTC | 20:04 |
| bdrung | The proposal is to move to 15:00 / 20:00 UTC in the Summer (from the last Sunday in March till October) and to 14:00 / 19:00 UTC in Winter (from the last Sunday in October til March) | 20:04 |
| micahg-work | I'd prefer 16:00/21:00 for the winter | 20:05 |
| * bdrung is confused with time zones. | 20:05 | |
| micahg-work | BTW, the 19:00 meeting is fine for me ATM, unless there's a desire to keep 5 hours between meetings | 20:05 |
| bdrung | The proposal is to move to 15:00 / 19:00 UTC in the Summer (from the last Sunday in March till October) and to 16:00 / 20:00 UTC in Winter (from the last Sunday in October til March) | 20:08 |
| bdrung | micahg-work: i calculated the times wrongly. i didn't want to the the late meeting. | 20:08 |
| micahg-work | seems fine | 20:09 |
| micahg-work | should we do a list vote? | 20:09 |
| bdrung | yes | 20:09 |
| micahg-work | bdrung, I can take an action item to call for the vote | 20:09 |
| micahg-work | I can also take an action item to poke about PPU/membership decoupling | 20:09 |
| micahg-work | unless ScottK wants the seocnd one | 20:10 |
| bdrung | #action micahg to call for votes for the new meeting times | 20:10 |
| meetingology | ACTION: micahg to call for votes for the new meeting times | 20:10 |
| ScottK | Don't we have a proposal we can vote on for the PPU thing? | 20:11 |
| bdrung | should we move the next meeting from 14:00 UTC to 15:00 UTC? | 20:11 |
| micahg-work | ScottK, ISTR there being some disagreement on a few points still | 20:11 |
| micahg-work | bdrung, I would prefer to move the meeting, yes (especially since the poll results were unanimous) | 20:12 |
| ScottK | micahg-work: Give me a link to your last proposal and I'll take the action. | 20:12 |
| bdrung | (before getting a consensus on changing the schedule?) | 20:12 |
| micahg-work | ScottK, ok, I'll have to do that when I get home, there should be a thread on the DMB list | 20:12 |
| ScottK | OK | 20:12 |
| bdrung | #action bdrung to change the meeting time for the next meeting from 14:00 UTC to 15:00 UTC | 20:13 |
| meetingology | ACTION: bdrung to change the meeting time for the next meeting from 14:00 UTC to 15:00 UTC | 20:13 |
| micahg-work | bdrung, yes, I think the UTC/GMT question is separate | 20:13 |
| micahg-work | I didn't see any conflicts on the fridge when I checked either | 20:13 |
| bdrung | #topic Decoupling PPU rights from Ubuntu membership | 20:14 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Decoupling PPU rights from Ubuntu membership | ||
| bdrung | micahg-work sent a mail with the subject "Proposal to decouple PPU from Membership" to d-m-b@ | 20:15 |
| micahg-work | bdrung, we've done that already, "micahg to give ScottK link to proposal and ScottK to move it forward" | 20:16 |
| ScottK | I found it. | 20:17 |
| ScottK | Having the subject line helps. | 20:17 |
| bdrung | we need to vote on it and then? | 20:17 |
| ScottK | I'll write a mail to the list. | 20:17 |
| ScottK | micahg-work wanted to argue the color of the bike shed some more. | 20:18 |
| ScottK | Let me review and mail the list and we'll have a mail vote. | 20:18 |
| ScottK | Something that important I think everyone should vote on anyway. | 20:18 |
| micahg-work | it needs a nice floral pattern! | 20:18 |
| bdrung | #action ScottK to call for votes on the decoupling PPU rights from Ubuntu membership proposal | 20:20 |
| meetingology | ACTION: ScottK to call for votes on the decoupling PPU rights from Ubuntu membership proposal | 20:20 |
| bdrung | next chair will be Laney | 20:22 |
| bdrung | thanks for attending. | 20:22 |
| bdrung | #endmeeting | 20:22 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | ||
| meetingology | Meeting ended Mon Apr 22 20:22:57 2013 UTC. | 20:22 |
| meetingology | Minutes (wiki): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2013/ubuntu-meeting.2013-04-22-19.00.moin.txt | 20:22 |
| meetingology | Minutes (html): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2013/ubuntu-meeting.2013-04-22-19.00.html | 20:22 |
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