[00:06] <dfly720> hi!
[00:07] <dfly720> i am a young programmer and i want to help the comunity to develope touch :)
[00:07] <dfly720> anybody help me?
[00:19] <Guest13600> Hey, boys, I have question for you
[00:20] <Guest13600> whether really to stitch Acer liquid mini Ubuntu touch?(GT)
[00:53] <sergiusens> ogra_: rsalveti frameworks/base went from 1.2G to 7.3M
[00:53] <rsalveti> sergiusens: cool
[00:53]  * sergiusens prepares patch
[01:30] <rsalveti> sergiusens: only bug I could find is the camera flip/invert that happens after switching from back to front
[01:30] <rsalveti> the rest is good, we can safely tag it
[01:30] <rsalveti> and be done with quantal :-)
[01:30] <sergiusens> rsalveti: yeah... gusch found the root cause, but I don't think it's going to be fixed soon
[01:31] <sergiusens> rsalveti: I'm moving to raring no matter what tomorrow :-)
[01:31] <rsalveti> sergiusens: yeah :-)
[02:44] <sergiusens> rsalveti: http://people.canonical.com/~sergiusens/patches_framework_base/
[03:12] <rsalveti> sergiusens: cool, quite a few, will test them tomorrow :-)
[03:12] <sergiusens> rsalveti: sounds good... expect the image to be smaller too
[03:13] <rsalveti> sergiusens: awesome
[03:14] <sergiusens> a bit smaller, not that much ;-)
[05:33] <paul_> test message...
[06:27] <Requ13scat> salve
[06:27] <Requ13scat> mi sapete dire se nella versione ultima du ubuntu touch è possibile la connesione dati mobile?
[06:29] <Requ13scat> can you tell me if the latest version of ubuntu touch is able to the Mobile data connection?
[06:58] <dholbach> good morning
[08:38] <xnox> didrocks: what should I do to get https://code.launchpad.net/~xnox/platform-api/hybris-symbols/+merge/158878 merged?
[08:38] <xnox> and https://code.launchpad.net/~xnox/qtubuntu-sensors/symbols/+merge/158884 as well ?
[08:39] <didrocks> xnox: pinging the upstream guys once they are around? I think I can merge those, however I think a rapid pointer somewhere on how to get the demangled symbols generated would be useful :)
[08:39] <xnox> didrocks: <the diff that dpkg gensymbols generates> | c++filt
[08:40] <xnox> plus fiddling with sed to add "(c++)" and quote the demangled symbol =)
[08:40] <didrocks> xnox: mind updating that to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DailyRelease/FAQ?
[08:40] <xnox> didrocks: right.... ack =)
[08:40] <didrocks> xnox: thanks! I think a step by step, which package to install and all would be needed :)
[08:42]  * xnox whines at the moon like a dog
[08:48] <filomaster> hi
[08:49] <filomaster> someone knows if i could intall the ubuntu tablet's image via cwm recovery?
[08:49] <k1l_> yes you can
[08:50] <k1l_> you need the device .zip and the phablet armhf .zip
[08:50] <filomaster> thanks where i can download them?
[08:51] <k1l_> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/daily-preinstalled/current/
[08:52] <ogra_> filomaster, see the install wikipage, it has a "manual install" section
[08:53] <filomaster> thank you ^^ i want to test it on an onda v812
[08:53] <filomaster> it would be soo great if these cheap tablets can run with ubuntu
[08:53] <ogra_> if the android parts werent ported you wont have much luck with that .... see the porting wikipage, it is in the channel topic
[08:54] <ogra_> (and the devices page too, if there is a port yet)
[09:01] <Taiten987> have anyone see this before?
[09:01] <Taiten987> qml-phone-shell: /build/buildd/ubuntu-platform-api-0.18/src/android/ubuntu_application_api.cpp:51: {anonymous}::Bridge::Bridge(): Assertion `lib_handle && "Error loading ubuntu_application_api"' failed.
[09:34] <dpm> morning fginther, quick question: do you know what the Jenkins failure in this merge proposal might be? It looks related to packaging to me:
[09:34] <dpm>  https://code.launchpad.net/~chocanto/ubuntu-docviewer-app/plainText/+merge/159440
[09:34] <dpm>  http://91.189.93.125:8080/job/ubuntu-docviewer-app-quantal-amd64-ci/9/console
[11:23] <yacuken> hi all
[11:31] <ZDmitry> mhall119: ping
[11:40] <Austinuity> Herro?
[11:41] <Austinuity> ...Anyone here?
[11:47] <highvoltage> nope. just us phones and tablets and phablets.
[11:47] <smartboyhw> +1
[11:48] <Austinuity> I'm a smartwatch. *puts on hipster glasses*
[11:55] <janimo`> sergiusens, rsalveti  is there a description of which project in https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-touch-preview corresponds to which feature in the UI?
[11:55] <janimo`> I try going by name but cannot find where the battery settings are handled. I guessed the indicator ones
[11:55] <ogra_> janimo`, i think thats more an mhall119 or a kaleo question
[11:56] <janimo`> ogra_, ah right, I asked the Android folk :)
[11:56] <ogra_> well, the phonedations folk :)
[11:56]  * janimo` notices is not quite 9 AM in Brasilia so kaleo may not be around yet
[11:57] <ogra_> he is in brazil ?
[11:58] <janimo`> ogra_, yes I think he is living there now
[11:58] <ogra_> oh
[11:58] <ogra_> crazy frenchie :)
[11:59] <Oranger> french ?
[12:00] <janimo`> renato, hello, do you know which project/bzr branch has the battery and brightness control code?
[12:00] <ogra_> Oranger, kaleo is french afaik ...
[12:01] <Oranger> ogra_, cool, i'm not the only french here, ahah
[12:01] <ogra_> :)
[12:03] <didrocks> ogra_: what about french? :p
[12:03] <ogra_> nothing ...
[12:03] <ogra_> :)
[12:03] <didrocks> ogra_: be careful, the sprint is just one week away! :p
[12:03] <Austinuity> Has there been any word about Ubuntu redesigning their TV and desktop to match u
[12:03] <Austinuity> Touch?
[12:03] <ogra_> yes
[12:04] <Austinuity> Sorry, I accidentaly split the lines there.
[12:04] <ogra_> unity next (which you know as ubuntu touch UI) will replace the current desktop unity
[12:05] <Austinuity> Will it have desktop-specific stylings?
[12:05] <Austinuity> Such as the BFB Launcher button remaining in there, etc.
[12:06] <ogra_> yes, i think the plan is that the enduser wont really notice the change ... beyond it likely being snappier and more stable
[12:07] <Austinuity> And looking more unified (Black topbar instead of brown-grey, Move away from Ambiance, etc.)
[12:07] <Austinuity> *?
[12:07] <ogra_> no idea about that
[12:08] <Austinuity> I don't like Ambiance. At ALL. Or the outdated icon theme.
[12:22] <rsalveti> janimo`: ubuntu-touch-preview is just the project group
[12:23] <janimo`> rsalveti, right, I meant which of the dozens of subprojects listed there :)
[12:25] <rsalveti> janimo`: problem is that not all projects are there
[12:25] <rsalveti> from UI perspective I believe just the indicators are there, and a few apps
[12:25] <rsalveti> https://code.launchpad.net/~unity-team/unity/phablet for the shell
[12:25] <renato> janimo`, lp:indicators-client
[12:27] <rsalveti> janimo`: don't think we have a table or such describing projects and branches
[12:27] <janimo`> renato, thanks I checked that, but saw no explciit battery settings
[12:27]  * janimo` looks harder
[12:28] <renato> janimo`, inside of plugins folder
[12:28] <janimo`> renato, or are the texts there actually images in the icons package?
[12:28] <janimo`> gor instance grepping "Remaining charge" shows no results
[12:29] <renato> janimo`, the text came from the server
[12:29] <renato> janimo`, the client only display the information
[12:29] <janimo`> renato, you mean the indicator-server bzr repo? I have that checked out as well
[12:30] <renato> janimo`, lp:indicator-power/phablet
[12:30] <janimo`> does not seem to have power or battery related code in it
[12:30] <janimo`> renato, ok, I wonder how I missed indicator power
[12:31] <janimo`> oh I see, it is not listed there in LP  https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-touch-preview
[12:32] <janimo`> renato, so it is a branch of the regular ubuntu package
[12:48] <rsalveti> sergiusens: should we tag and create a qatracker entry? or just tagging is enough?
[12:49] <rsalveti> it might be useful to have the test results published as well
[12:49]  * sergiusens reads
[12:49] <sergiusens> rsalveti: needs balloons for that... I'm not prived enough
[12:51] <sergiusens> ogra_: I think we are bringing down the 15G considerably
[12:51] <ogra_> sergiusens, yeah
[12:51] <rsalveti> sergiusens: regarding the #92 image
[12:52] <rsalveti> ogra_: today's compressed image is 1.2gb
[12:52] <rsalveti> we're getting there :-)
[12:52] <sergiusens> rsalveti: yup, 92 image for quantal, need balloons or stgraber (iirc)
[12:52] <ogra_> yup, i see that :)
[12:52] <ogra_> but we need to discuss the plan in more detail i think, thats why i created that wikipage
[12:53] <ogra_> especially since we need someone knowledgerable to maintain the toolchain etc
[12:54] <rsalveti> ogra_: sure
[12:58] <fginther> dpm, The jenkins failure was caused by a missing PPA dependency. I've add ppa:canonical-qt5-edgers/qt5-proper and the build is now passing.
[12:59] <dpm> excellent, thanks fginther
[12:59] <fginther> dpm,  you're welcome
[12:59] <Oranger> oh hey fginther
[13:00] <fginther> Oranger, hello
[13:01] <Oranger> mhall119 said that you could help me about the fact that Jenkins can't build the ubuntu-docviewer-app in the quantal environement
[13:03] <Oranger> ubuntu-docviewer-app need the qt5 library but of course she is not present in quantal PPAs
[13:03] <fginther> Oranger, That was the same issue dpm ran into, It should be fixed now
[13:04] <Oranger> fginther: Ok, i try
[13:04] <Oranger> fginther: Thank you :)
[13:04] <dpm> Oranger, indeed, I noticed the build failing on the doc viewer and I pinged fginther about it. It's the same thing
[13:04] <fginther> Oranger, dpm, by the way, the docview-app needs a version bump
[13:04] <Oranger> dpm: Oh so that's good
[13:04] <sergiusens> rsalveti: I did a repo sync this morning and when tryeing to reapply patches 0007, 0010, 0019 failed... I'll regen them
[13:04] <Oranger> it build now, excelent
[13:05] <rsalveti> sergiusens: that's weird, nothing changed at frameworks/base afaik
[13:05] <fginther> Oranger, dpm, an incorrect versioned package made it into the ppa and a version bump is needed to replace it
[13:05] <sergiusens> rsalveti: I know :-/ and it's just an rm :-P
[13:05] <Oranger> fginther, yes but i was waiting first that it build correctly
[13:05] <fginther> Oranger, dpm, I have an MP to fix it: https://code.launchpad.net/~fginther/ubuntu-docviewer-app/version-bump-0.1.1/+merge/159886
[13:06] <Oranger> fginther: Now I can add your patch :)
[13:06] <fginther> Oranger, ok, no worries then
[13:06] <dpm> fginther, I saw your merge proposals, thanks!
[13:08] <dpm> Oranger, are you going to put the version bump changes in your branch? If so, could you mark https://code.launchpad.net/~fginther/ubuntu-docviewer-app/version-bump-0.1.1/+merge/159886 as rejected with a short explanation? Otherwise it might be worth marking that branch as approved, wait for the change to land and you can than update your branch with the trunk version
[13:10] <Oranger> dpm: I was thinking about merge the plainText branch in the trunk, then merge the version dump in the trunk
[13:10] <dpm> Oranger, sounds good
[13:11] <Oranger> dpm: Right now i'm just waiting for Jenkins to merge my branch
[13:11] <dpm> great, thanks a lot for your work Oranger
[13:12] <Oranger> dpm: You're welcome :) Thank you too
[13:13] <Oranger> But actually I don't really know what Jenkins is waiting...
[13:18] <dpm> Oranger, oh, it was waiting for the status of the merge proposal to be set to Approved. I've done that now, and Jenkins should now land the branch into trunk
[13:18] <Oranger> dpm: Yes I saw that, thank you :)
[13:18] <dpm> I'm not sure how long it takes generally, but looking at another branch from this morning, it took about 15 mins for Jenkins to merge the branch after it had been set to Approved
[13:19] <dpm> this should give you a rough idea, or perhaps fginther can tell us in more detail what's the frequency at which Jenkins does autolandings
[13:20] <Oranger> dpm: In the dashboard i can see that he does antolanding every 15min
[13:20] <fginther> dpm, Oranger, yes, every 15 minutes
[13:20] <dpm> ok, cool, that should answer our question, then :)
[13:20] <dpm> well spotted
[13:21] <dpm> thanks
[13:21] <Oranger> always good to know :)
[13:28] <persona24> I have a Samsung Galaxy Tab 7, can I install Ubuntu Touch?
[13:31] <ogra_> see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
[13:32] <gusch> fginther: ping
[13:32] <fginther> gusch, hello
[13:32] <gusch> fginther: any idea how to get the bot to run that again? https://code.launchpad.net/~schwann/ubuntu-weather-app/weather-first-autopilot-test/+merge/157298
[13:40] <fginther> gusch, looking into this a little more closely
[13:40] <gusch> fginther: thx
[13:45] <fginther> gusch, If you want to retry the autolanding, someone from the ubuntu-*-dev team needs to re-approve. If you just want to run a -ci job, you need to be a member of one of the ubuntu-*-dev teams
[13:48] <gusch> fginther: re-running the -ci job is what I want here
[13:48] <gusch> fginther: would be weired if I'm not part of an ubuntu-*-dev team
[13:49] <fginther> gusch, it's not all that weird, it's just that the automation will not kick in for you. I can run the job manually
[13:49] <gusch> fginther: would be cool
[14:05] <fginther> gusch, test completed
[14:06] <gusch> fginther: I pushed a fix already - can you start it again?
[14:06] <Oranger> dpm: Every branches are merged ! :)
[14:07] <dpm> excellent, thanks Oranger!
[14:43] <Oranger> mhall119: Is VladimirMoolle working on the image-viewer module of ubuntu-docviewer-app ?
[14:49] <mhall119> Oranger: he said he was in the IRC meeting last week
[14:49] <mhall119> but I haven't seen any code or merge proposals yet
[14:49] <shadeslayer> ChickenCutlass: pingly, I was wondering if you could share how you mounted the rootfs via the initrd
[14:49] <shadeslayer> my initrd just hangs waiting for the rootfs to mount
[14:49] <ChickenCutlass> shadeslayer: so for the nexus4 I just manually added mount /dev/block/mmcp23 /data
[14:50] <shadeslayer> uhh
[14:50] <shadeslayer> and then root=/data ?
[14:50] <ChickenCutlass> shadeslayer: yes
[14:50] <shadeslayer> okay
[14:51] <shadeslayer> ChickenCutlass: I have access to the boot messages btw
[14:51] <ChickenCutlass> shadeslayer: via serial console
[14:51] <shadeslayer> ChickenCutlass: http://paste.kde.org/729668/
[14:51] <shadeslayer> nope
[14:51] <shadeslayer> via recovery -> /proc/last_knsg
[14:51] <shadeslayer> *kmsg
[14:51] <ChickenCutlass> ah
[14:51] <shadeslayer> g_serial doesn't work at all
[14:51] <shadeslayer> nor does fbcon
[14:51] <shadeslayer> both seem quite broken to me
[14:52] <ogra_> yeah, seems to be an issue with that kernel
[14:52] <shadeslayer> there's some weird stuff going with the framebuffer at boot
[14:52] <shadeslayer> for eg : [    7.022609] s3c-fb exynos5-fb.1: failed to find bootloader framebuffer
[14:53] <johnjohn101> hello all.  I saw that there was a beta for ubuntu touch.  I was told not to install the developers preview.  what is the recommendation for this release?
[14:53] <shadeslayer> apparently you can pass a memory address and thats loaded to be displayed on the screen
[14:53] <Oranger> mhall119: Ok, because I want to work on it, but I hope that we will not work together on the same thing..
[14:53] <ogra_> johnjohn101, there was no beta ... thats a flase message
[14:53] <ogra_> *false
[14:53] <shadeslayer> ogra_: ChickenCutlass either way, no need for fbcon for now since there's /proc/last_kmsg
[14:53] <johnjohn101> oh, so wait until this fall?
[14:53] <ogra_> sergiusens, btw, you made it on the front of the two biggest german IT news sites
[14:54] <ogra_> johnjohn101, for a real beta ? yeah
[14:54] <Xorrito> Quick question does Touch support usb host now? My Nexus 7 digitizer broke so i need a mouse to use it. Does this work now, or should I keep waiting?
[14:54] <johnjohn101> tx orga_:  give me some time to convince the wife to let me get a new tablet!!
[14:54] <ogra_> heh
[14:55] <mpt> Completed initial "Security & Privacy" settings design for the phone: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityAndPrivacySettings#Phone
[14:56] <ogra_> mpt, hmm, "When locked allow" could become hoddily long over time
[14:56] <ogra_> i would put that onm its own page
[14:56] <Oranger> mpt: Wow, great work !
[14:56] <ogra_> *hoddirly
[14:56] <ogra_> bah
[14:56] <ogra_> horridly
[14:56] <mpt> ogra_, if it does, I certainly will. :-) But I'm expecting it to be initially shorter than that, actually ... maybe only camera. We'll see.
[14:57] <ogra_> k :)
[14:58] <sergiusens> ogra_: how can I have done that?
[14:58] <ogra_> sergiusens, Ubuntu Touch Beta announcement
[14:59] <sergiusens> ogra_: hah... I just said, let the testing begin :-P
[14:59] <mpt> Next ... Wi-Fi, methinks
[14:59] <sergiusens> what a way to take things out of proportion
[14:59] <ogra_> heh yeah
[14:59] <mhall119> Oranger: if you're ready to work on it, I say go for it
[15:00] <mhall119> Oranger: you might want to just send an email to the team letting everybody know that you are
[15:00] <Oranger> mhall119: Yep, I will do, thank
[15:03] <rsalveti> sergiusens: yeah, you released a beta version ;-)
[15:03] <rsalveti> even hit slashdot
[15:03] <ogra_> haha
[15:04] <ogra_> i wonder if we need some dholbachication for that :)
[15:04] <ogra_> to clearify we didnt do a beta
[15:04] <ogra_> on the other hand there were only few people in the channel asking about it yet
[15:05] <johnjohn101> how's the product looking so far?  i can wait until october to install
[15:08] <shadeslayer> ChickenCutlass: does /data need special permissions? ( like /dev is created with 0755 )
[15:08] <ogra_> just check the permissions for / on yoour desktop :)
[15:08] <shadeslayer> or should I merely do : mkdir /data ; mount -t ext4 -o defaults /dev/block/platform/dw_mmc.0/by-name/userdata /data
[15:08] <ChickenCutlass> shadeslayer: I just used the defaults
[15:08] <Damp> Hi! I am trying to run a small app that I wrote (just testing basic elements and such) on UBuntu Phone on my Nexus 4. but the app doesnt display itself. However, If I open another App (i.e. browser) and then quits it, it displays for a second then it disappears. Have anyone encoutered this before?
[15:09] <ogra_> shadeslayer, "rw,noatime,nodiratime,discard,errors=remount-ro" should be a good set of options
[15:09] <sergiusens> ogra_: rsalveti balloons was sort of taking care
[15:09] <ogra_> ah, k
[15:09] <sergiusens> he's not online now though
[15:10] <shadeslayer> Just making sure ;)
[15:10] <shadeslayer> now to wait for the N10 to get charged
[15:10] <shadeslayer> so I can flash stuff
[15:21] <XperiaV> Kann hier jemand Deutsch?
[15:21] <smartboyhw> XperiaV, not sure if any Germans are here.
[15:21] <XperiaV> ok
[15:22]  * netcurli is German
[15:22] <smartboyhw> XperiaV, dholbach is one:P
[15:23] <dholbach> ogra too
[15:23] <smartboyhw> dholbach, whoa!
[15:23] <smartboyhw> That's a LOT of Germans:P
[15:23] <sergiusens> dholbach: how do we get the word out that there is no beta?
[15:24] <dholbach> sergiusens, ubuntu-devel-announce@?
[15:26] <smartboyhw> No beta of what?
[15:30] <Oranger> smartboyhw: Of ubuntu-touch
[15:31] <sergiusens> dholbach: one more, do you have access to isotracker?
[15:31] <smartboyhw> Oranger, oh OK
[15:31] <dholbach> sergiusens, I'm afraid I don't, but stgraber should
[15:32] <sergiusens> stgraber: can you add build 20130420.2 to these: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/268/builds ?
[15:32] <sergiusens> thanks dholbach
[15:33] <stgraber> sergiusens: no, those should auto-publish, if they don't, someone should fix that instead of manually pushing new builds
[15:33] <joao> hi, can anyone tell me if the nexus 7 3g version is already supported?
[15:34] <ogra_> sergiusens, ^^^ do we have a fix that makes it use the grouper image on nakasig frpm phablet-flash ?
[15:34] <ogra_> *from
[15:36] <rsalveti> stgraber: this is the quantal-based tagged build, which we'll not be auto publishing/building anymore
[15:36] <rsalveti> so it might indeed need some manual steps
[15:37] <rsalveti> I know the raring one is already being auto-published
[15:37] <ogra_> rsalveti, well, there are some new hoops i need to jump through when tagging it on cdimage apparently
[15:37] <rsalveti> ogra_: right
[15:37] <ogra_> though i am not sure there is a proper endpoint on the tracker for these images
[15:38] <rsalveti> yeah
[15:38] <ogra_> seems cjwatson uses "qa_product_base=ubuntu-touch-preview/daily-preinstalled" in the sync script
[15:38] <ogra_> that would be wrong for the milestones
[15:38] <stgraber> rsalveti, sergiusens: so what should be the current version on the tracker? it looks like the last build was 20130422
[15:39] <ogra_> thats the daily
[15:40] <ogra_> then there are two milestones  monthly-04/ ... (20130418) and monthly-04.1/ (20130420.2)
[15:40] <ogra_> i know, pretty messy ...
[15:42] <joao> well, i'm like, wtf have i just read ?
[15:42] <joao> still got no clue if i can install touch on my nexus 3g lol
[15:43] <ogra_> joao, go to the install wikipage, pick the manual install method and use the "grouper" images
[15:45] <joao> ok thanks, i will give it a try
[15:55] <shadeslayer> ChickenCutlass: doesn't work for me , all I get is http://paste.kde.org/730094/
[15:56] <shadeslayer> I'm going to replace the rootfs init with a call to change brightness
[15:56] <shadeslayer> lets see if it even works
[15:59] <shadeslayer> nope, doesn't
[16:01] <itsme_> hey guys. is there a image for the razr i planned?
[16:02] <ogra_> itsme_, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
[16:02] <sergiusens> stgraber: ogra_ rsalveti the quantal thing is a special case... not following current
[16:03] <sergiusens> raring is on current
[16:03] <ogra_> sergiusens, yes, but do we want it on the tracker at all ?
[16:03] <sergiusens> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/243/builds
[16:03] <ogra_> we dont really have a concept of having released milestones on the tracker
[16:03] <sergiusens> ogra_: well, I would rather run a cycle with the quantal stuff to have it officially closed...
[16:04] <ogra_> since they being released somewhat implicates that they have been tested before :)
[16:04] <sergiusens> ogra_: ack... they have... but we didn't have a place to set the results or anything as we don't have access to it
[16:04] <sergiusens> it was a Saturday thing
[16:05] <sergiusens> anyways, if it doesn't matter, no need
[16:05] <ogra_> well, as long as you think they are good ... the tracker doesnt really matter :)
[16:29] <rsalveti> ogra_: qa tracker was more to keep track of the known issues for that release specifically
[16:30] <rsalveti> useful for people doing demos based on that image to know what not to demo :-)
[16:31] <ogra_> rsalveti, right, but it isnt really designed to be used after releases ... we need to adjust our workflow for this ... i.e. we should have made sure 20130418 and 20130420.2 are definitely kept on the tracker for looking up issues after the milestone went out
[16:32] <ogra_> *milestones
[16:32] <ogra_> and that both of them have the proper issues tracked
[16:32] <rsalveti> right
[16:33] <rsalveti> well, not necessarily need to be at qatracker, but this might be happening again later
[16:33] <rsalveti> until everything is moved to the archive
[16:33] <rsalveti> as daily images for raring will not last long either
[16:36] <ogra_> yeah
[16:36] <ogra_> (hopefully at least)
[16:54] <rsalveti> ogra_: hey, I'm looking at the android flashing method at flash-kernel, mostly at http://paste.ubuntu.com/5593102/
[16:54] <rsalveti> looking at this for, it probes the partition to find a valid bootpartition with abootimg
[16:55] <rsalveti> problem with the current setup at mako is that partition 6 is boot and 7 is recovery
[16:55] <rsalveti> but both are recognized as boot partition, as as it for goes on, it ends up using 7
[16:55] <rsalveti> which is not what we want
[16:55] <ogra_> we have a db entry that  points to the flash target
[16:55] <ogra_> iirc
[16:55] <rsalveti> ogra_: is that on purpose or was it because the other devices the boot was always the last entry?
[16:55] <rsalveti> ogra_: right
[16:55] <ogra_> we should just make it override that detection method
[16:56] <rsalveti> I'm trying to reuse that
[16:56] <moocow1452> Is there a cheat sheet for when your are dealing with a device that boots and stays on a black screen?
[16:56] <ogra_> the function was originally written completely differnt by me
[16:56] <ogra_> its actually a no-op now
[16:56] <ogra_> debian crippled it a lot
[16:56] <ogra_> and thats what we got back :)
[16:57] <rsalveti> ogra_: but this code is used by ac100 and grouper
[16:57] <ogra_> my original code actually *did* compare sizes
[16:57] <rsalveti> right
[16:57] <ogra_> now it just uses the first partition
[16:57] <ogra_> ... it finds
[16:57] <rsalveti> is that available somewhere?
[16:57] <rsalveti> or was it merged at trunk?
[16:58] <ogra_> it was in precises flash-kernel or earlier iirc ... but i think we should just use the db entry
[16:58] <ogra_> and override the detection altogether
[16:59] <ogra_> detecting stuff we dont relly need to detect has the potential of adding bugs ...
[16:59] <rsalveti> ogra_: what you mean exactly?
[16:59] <rsalveti> sure
[16:59] <rsalveti> but should we hardcode the partition?
[16:59] <rsalveti> sounds like trouble as well
[16:59] <rsalveti> as that depends on the previous android version used
[17:00] <ogra_> Boot-Device
[17:00] <rsalveti> right, that's hardcoding
[17:00] <ogra_> that takes a partition name
[17:00] <ogra_> right, why wouldnt we hardcode ?
[17:00] <ogra_> it wont change sinvce the bootloader wont change
[17:00] <rsalveti> wouldn't that depend on the partition scheme previously used by the device?
[17:01] <rsalveti> that might be true for boot and recovery
[17:01] <ogra_> it depends on the bootloader completely
[17:01] <ogra_> and since we are unlikely to touch it i would just tie the partition to the device
[17:01] <ogra_> in the db
[17:02] <ogra_> and completely override the detection
[17:02] <rsalveti> right, let me just compare the partitions here to make sure that's indeed fixed
[17:02] <rsalveti> yup
[17:02] <rsalveti> might need to use android as method though
[17:02] <rsalveti> so we know we need to use abootimg
[17:02] <rsalveti> I was just planning on adding a temporary flag to tell if you need to update the initrd, so we can use until we switch the container model
[17:02] <ogra_> thats fine, just make it skip the detection if Boot-Device is set and use the value from there
[17:02] <rsalveti> we can wait as well
[17:03] <rsalveti> right
[17:03] <ogra_> and probably have another codepath that just updates vmlinuz
[17:03] <ogra_> and ignores the initrd
[17:03] <rsalveti> yup
[17:04] <rsalveti> ogra_: will try something here
[17:04] <ogra_> just a plain abootimg -u $Boot-Device -k $path to kernel
[17:04] <rsalveti> ogra_: do you know which partition is used by ac100 and grouper?
[17:04] <rsalveti> ogra_:yup, that's what I used locally
[17:04] <ogra_> on ac100 it varies
[17:04] <ogra_> so just keep the old way for it
[17:04] <rsalveti> why?
[17:04] <ogra_> on grouper it might too, not sure
[17:04] <rsalveti> why it varies?
[17:04] <rsalveti> then we can't hardcode :-)
[17:04] <ogra_> because of different models that use different MMCs
[17:05] <ogra_> we cant hardcode for ac100
[17:05] <ogra_> that why i say do it in the db
[17:05] <rsalveti> right, we might just fix the logic
[17:05] <rsalveti> do we have any case which boot is after recovery?
[17:05] <ogra_> the code should just react on $Boot-Device
[17:05] <ogra_> and for ac00 we simply dont set that
[17:05] <ogra_> not that i know of
[17:05] <rsalveti> right, but the same might happen for the devices we're using
[17:06] <rsalveti> a simple break there would already work then
[17:06] <rsalveti> in case it finds a root partition
[17:06] <ogra_> i dont think it will since we are using the android nomenclature
[17:06] <rsalveti> we might even add some more checks to see if it's a recovery img or not
[17:06] <rsalveti> well, ac100 was made for android :-)
[17:06] <ogra_> and for different device models you usually have differnt naming
[17:06] <rsalveti> so is grouper
[17:06] <rsalveti> if if that can change, others can as well
[17:06] <ogra_> right, but on ac100 we cant read the android device name
[17:07] <rsalveti> we got different hw revisions for mako already
[17:07] <ogra_> since there is no android
[17:07] <ogra_> we also have different ones for grouper
[17:07] <ogra_> but they have different names in android
[17:07] <rsalveti> that's why I think we should just improve the autodetection
[17:07] <ogra_> (teh 32G 3G model is different)
[17:07] <rsalveti> right
[17:07] <rsalveti> because here we're using /proc/cpuinfo
[17:07] <rsalveti> which is probably the same for all variants
[17:08] <ogra_> well, if you have a clever idea, feel free to go forward :)
[17:08] <ogra_> yeah, we shouldnt
[17:08] <rsalveti> yeah, will give it a try later today, just wanted to understand the background better
[17:08] <ogra_> for UTouch we should use the UTouch methd we also ise in ubuntu-session imho
[17:08] <rsalveti> android is a mess regarding cpuinfo
[17:08] <ogra_> yeah
[17:08] <ogra_> cpuinfo is a mess on arm :P
[17:08] <rsalveti> right
[17:09] <rsalveti> yeah
[17:39] <sergiusens> rsalveti: going to be switching to this soonish: lp:touch-preview-images/phablet-build-scripts
[17:41] <rsalveti> sergiusens: cool, is this based on the latest private branch?
[17:41] <rsalveti> seems so
[17:45] <sergiusens> rsalveti: yes it is
[17:45] <rsalveti> sergiusens: great
[17:46] <sergiusens> rsalveti: I don't like the raring-ubuntu_stamp thing
[17:46]  * ogra_ likes create_stamp 
[17:46] <ogra_> *g*
[17:46] <sergiusens> rsalveti: in the image I think I want to change it to ubuntu_stamp
[17:46] <rsalveti> sergiusens: +1
[17:47] <sergiusens> rsalveti: for cdimage we can keep the raring- prefix
[17:47] <rsalveti> even ubuntu_stamp there would be ok
[17:47] <rsalveti> you could say the series used inside the file
[17:48] <sergiusens> rsalveti: that's up to ogra ;-)
[17:48] <ogra_> me ?
[17:48] <sergiusens> ogra_: do all files in cdimage have to have the $series- prefix?
[17:49] <ogra_> they usually do i think
[17:49] <ogra_> "have to" ... i dont think so
[17:49] <sergiusens> ogra_: well you decide :-)
[17:49] <rsalveti> I mean, the other files could all contain raring, just the stamp that can be ubuntu_stamp
[17:50] <rsalveti> as hopefully the android image will not be directly realted with the ubuntu version used
[17:50] <jozo_> hey
[17:50] <jozo_> anone here?
[17:50] <jozo_> Does anyone made port of Ubuntu for Alcatel OT T10 tablet? I know it's shi* but...
[17:50] <ogra_> rsalveti, well, it will be related with the release once we have the toolchain packaged
[17:51] <ogra_> not necessarily with a daily indeed
[17:51] <rsalveti> ogra_: well
[17:51] <rsalveti> it'll be "related", but that will not be a run-time dependency
[17:52] <ogra_> no, but i think we should tie it at least to the release
[17:52] <ogra_> even if thats atrificial
[17:52] <ogra_> *arti...
[17:52] <ogra_> the publisher code of cdimage surely seeks for release as the first bit in the name
[17:53] <ogra_> but for the android images we will have to have some special casing anyway since we dont want to build them daily
[17:54] <ogra_> i also think that we might not need the stamp anymore once cdimage does the builds ...
[17:55] <ogra_> apart from the jenkins data it seems to only carry data that should be in a changelog
[17:57] <ogra_> sergiusens, so as long as scripts outside of cdimage handle the syncing and publishing it can be as you like ... once cdimage does the builds it will probably not be necessary to have that file at all imho
[17:57] <rsalveti> yeah, stamp will not necessarily be needed later on
[17:57] <rsalveti> hopefully :-)
[17:57] <rsalveti> and the android part will be a package or similar :-)
[17:57] <sergiusens> ogra_: is there a way from /current to know you are downloading a specific build?
[17:58] <ogra_> tight
[17:58] <rsalveti> brb
[17:58] <ogra_> err right even
[17:58] <sergiusens> ogra_: rsalveti stamp is only used for phablet-flash to download in a specific dir
[17:58] <rsalveti> useful for debugging as well
[17:58] <ogra_> sergiusens, not really, if you pick current it is assumed that you want the latest, no matter what buildnumber that is
[17:59] <sergiusens> I can get rid of it right now if I could find out
[17:59] <ogra_> therer are stammps inside the images
[17:59] <ogra_> but you cant read them without unpacking indeed
[17:59] <sergiusens> ogra_: ok, but since cdimage only saves the last 3, it would be good to not always wipe current from our downloads
[18:00] <ogra_> current gets re-set with every build atm
[18:00] <ogra_> thats just about to change btw
[18:00] <sergiusens> ogra_: how so?
[18:00] <sergiusens> ogra_: or is that to be saved for the sprint? :-)
[18:00] <ogra_> instead of re-setting current there will be a pending/ dir that gets re-set with every build ...
[18:01]  * sergiusens can wat
[18:01] <ogra_> current/ will only be updated based on test results
[18:01] <sergiusens> ogra_: oh, yeah, that... that's fine
[18:01] <sergiusens> ogra_: I'm all for that
[18:01] <ogra_> right
[18:02] <sergiusens> ogra_: rsalveti ok, so I'm getting rid of the stamp all together and keeping it within the image only
[18:02] <ogra_> anyway, atm current/ always points to the latest build automatically
[18:11] <Oranger> mhall119: Just add a new branch, with it the package work :)
[18:12] <Oranger> mhall119: If you have time to review it..
[18:14] <rsalveti> sergiusens: how will you get the build id then?
[18:29] <sergiusens> rsalveti: I won't... I'll just get current... it's going away anyways, might as well change once
[18:30] <rsalveti> sergiusens: right
[18:30] <rsalveti> sergiusens: might just need a better handling when storing them locally
[18:30] <rsalveti> or are you always going to download md5, check, remove and redownload if needed?
[18:31] <pmcgowan> rsalveti: sergiusens how we doing on our conversion to raring
[18:31] <sergiusens> rsalveti: well, I'll add the dated ones to the revision list and they will be downloadable as such
[18:31] <sergiusens> pmcgowan: how is it going or how are we doing? It's progressing
[18:31] <sergiusens> rsalveti: if md5 does not match, delete I guess
[18:31] <rsalveti> right
[18:32] <sergiusens> rsalveti: but soon we will switch to something else for checksums too... from what I saw in cdimage at least
[18:32] <rsalveti> right
[18:36] <pmcgowan> sergiusens: you stumped me with that question
[18:36] <pmcgowan> sergiusens: we still looking to do another quantal tag
[18:40] <sergiusens> pmcgowan: it's done... quantal/monthly-04.1
[18:40] <pmcgowan> sergiusens: oh did not see that
[18:41] <pmcgowan> sergiusens: did all those other patches make it in?
[18:41] <pmcgowan> changelog not showing them
[18:41] <sergiusens> pmcgowan: well there were nightly builds in between
[18:42] <pmcgowan> sergiusens: but this is a running changelog
[18:43] <sergiusens> pmcgowan: yeah, not sure why not, but there were phone-app changes and indicator-client changes
[18:43] <pmcgowan> sergiusens: ok I will ask rsalveti why we are not picking them all up
[18:44] <sergiusens> pmcgowan: you can see them in the ibs diff
[18:44] <rsalveti> pmcgowan: will check the manifest, for some reason sometimes launchpad doesn't give me the right info
[18:44] <rsalveti> if I run the changelog generator again it'll probably work better, it's annoying
[18:45] <rsalveti> let me see if this is indeed the case
[18:47] <trashi> hi, I saw there is a development version out now on ubuntu.com. is there allready a release date for a stable version, too?
[18:51] <pmcgowan> trashi: stable version is really 13.10
[18:52] <trashi> pmcgowan: oh, too bad. i hoped it would be 13.04 :-)
[18:53] <pmcgowan> trashi: that would be nice but lots left to do
[18:54] <mhall119> popey: you all set for some packaging?
[18:55] <popey> mhall119: yup
[18:57] <trashi> pmcgowan: i heard of that. so at least I will download the ubuntu sdk to experiment a little bit with my nexus. im really excited. it would be awesome to ban android and google bloatware forever from my phone...
[18:57] <pmcgowan> trashi: yes do that, there is a lot you can do right now
[18:58] <mhall119> popey: surgemcgee here is the stock ticker app developer, and he would like some packaging help
[18:58] <surgemcgee> Hello
[18:58] <mhall119> you can hg clone https://bitbucket.org/surgemcgee/stock-ticker-mobile-app to get his branch
[18:59]  * mhall119 now tries to remember hg commands from 2 years ago
[18:59]  * popey sudo apt-get install mercurial
[18:59] <surgemcgee> I can switch fairly quickly if you all want
[19:01] <mhall119> surgemcgee: so, first things first, we need to get your debian/copyright file updated
[19:02] <surgemcgee> Alright, listing...
[19:02] <surgemcgee> *listening
[19:02] <mhall119> line 6-8 need your name, email and license if it's not GPL-3.0+
[19:02] <mhall119> and the commented lines at the bottom need to be removed
[19:02] <surgemcgee> Ohh, wait that is done already, hold on one sec...
[19:04] <popey> debian/changelog needs a real email address.
[19:04] <popey> mhall119: are we building for raring _and_ quantal?
[19:05] <mhall119> popey: what do you think?
[19:05] <mhall119> we can maybe just target raring now
[19:05] <popey> i think so
[19:05] <mhall119> since the device images should be switching over soon
[19:06] <popey> so debian/changelog needs to have raring where it says unstable then
[19:06] <popey> surgemcgee: ^^
[19:06] <mhall119> pmcgowan: any apps in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Collection you'd particularly want to see packaged first?
[19:09] <pmcgowan> mhall119: I saw stock ticker and it seemed quite nice, also if U1 music works thats a good one
[19:10] <popey> u1music is tricky because it requires the running of a manky py file on device.
[19:10]  * popey makes sure aquarius isn't around to see he said that ☻
[19:11] <mhall119> I usually check that aquarius *is* around before I say stuff like that
[19:12] <surgemcgee> Alright I added new copyright files in a new branch  called Packaging
[19:12] <surgemcgee> Still need permissions On that branch though (shrugs)
[19:12] <mhall119> surgemcgee: got them
[19:13] <mhall119> surgemcgee: did you see popey's comments about about your debian/changelog file?
[19:13] <surgemcgee> Yes, dont understand thiough
[19:13] <mhall119> also, your copyright file needs the Source: field on line 3 filled in
[19:13] <surgemcgee> I will check it out
[19:13] <mhall119> surgemcgee: the changelog lists your email as: <surgemcgee@unknown>
[19:14] <popey> surgemcgee@unknown should be a valid email address
[19:14] <mhall119> on line 5
[19:14] <popey> stock-ticker-mobile-app (0.1) unstable; urgency=low
[19:14] <popey> s/unstable/raring/
[19:14] <mhall119> also, on line 1, 'unstable' refers to Debian's 'unstable' repository.  You want this to be 'raring' for Ubuntu's Raring repository
[19:14] <surgemcgee> Ok, that reminds me, I can just do a dpkg-buildpackage after I change all of these?
[19:14] <mhall119> should be
[19:14] <surgemcgee> Very new to the package thing
[19:15] <surgemcgee> Ok
[19:15] <mhall119> surgemcgee: no worries, it's mostly a mystery to me still too, but we'll get by :)
[19:16]  * popey tries packaging Akari 
[19:16] <surgemcgee> Alright Updated and live
[19:17] <surgemcgee> Go Akari, GO!
[19:17] <mhall119> surgemcgee: looking good
[19:17] <surgemcgee> Cool, why is my icon so big in the dash?
[19:18] <mhall119> surgemcgee: there are 4 comment lines at the bottom of debian/copyright that should be removed
[19:18] <surgemcgee> ok
[19:18] <mhall119> they are boiler-plate comments that will throw warning if we leave them
[19:18] <surgemcgee> Done
[19:19] <surgemcgee> What command issues warning?
[19:19] <mhall119> debuild will
[19:20] <mhall119> also, your copyright file needs the Source: field on line 3 filled in
[19:22] <surgemcgee> Cookin right along
[19:22] <mhall119> surgemcgee: I usually run "debuild -us -uc", this will run both dpkg-buildpackage and also Lintian to check for common problems with the package
[19:24] <popey> hmm copyright-contains-dh_make-todo-boilerplate
[19:25] <popey> ahh, comments
[19:25] <Bnic3> anyone has ubuntu touch up and running as a daily driver??
[19:25] <popey> Bnic3: it's not really ready for use as a daily driver.
[19:25] <popey> unless you don't mind missing out on phone calls and texts..
[19:25] <popey> ☻
[19:25] <Bnic3> popey: it's for the asus 700t
[19:26] <popey> nice device!
[19:26] <mhall119> Bnic3: it's my daily driver on my Nexus 7 tablet
[19:26] <Bnic3> mhall119: pros/cons?
[19:27] <mhall119> Bnic3: pros: It's awesome, multi-tasking is better than anything else I've used, and I can hack it to my heart's content
[19:28] <Bnic3> any wifi gps problems? any cons? and is it backed up / restored using similar recovery like clockwork or TWRP?
[19:28] <mhall119> cons: not all hardware is enabled yet (no camera or sound on the N7), parts of the shell functionality hasn't been implemented yet, and there's still a small selection of apps relative to established platforms
[19:28] <mhall119> well I don't have GPS, but my wifi works fine
[19:29] <mhall119> I haven't worried with backing it up, since I flash it to the latest daily image pretty regularly
[19:29] <mhall119> then again, I haven't worried about backup up my Android phone either
[19:29] <mhall119> so maybe I'm just not that into backups
[19:29] <Bnic3> how far out is it from a beta or a RC? I only seen a dev preview so far...where are you getting your files that you flash?
[19:29] <mhall119> Bnic3: the phablet-flash tool will download the latest daily preview image
[19:30] <Bnic3> mhall119: lol noted.
[19:30] <mhall119> I don't know when there's going to be something tagged "Beta"
[19:30] <Bnic3> is this where I can get the latest that has the update tool??... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices/tf700t
[19:31] <mhall119> ah, phablet-flash only works on the 4 devices Canonical builds images for
[19:31] <mhall119> so, Galaxy Nexus, Nexus 4, 7 and 10
[19:31] <Bnic3> great... -__
[19:31] <Bnic3> - __ -
[19:31] <mhall119> there should be instructions for installing other images, like for tf700t, on the device's wiki page
[19:32] <Oranger> mhall119: Just added a new branch, with it the package work :)
[19:32] <Oranger> mhall119: If you have time to review it..
[19:32] <mhall119> Oranger: nice work!  I'll review it in a bit
[19:32] <mhall119> surgemcgee: you still with us?
[19:32] <Oranger> mhall119: Thank you a lot !
[19:32] <mhall119> np
[19:33] <ZDmitry> mhall119: just ensure - did you recive message about new revision of konsole-qml-plugin and corresponding ubuntu-touch-app?
[19:33] <mhall119> surgemcgee: so you've got a lot of files here with the executable bit set, which don't need it
[19:33] <mhall119> can you "chmod -x *" in that directory?
[19:35] <mhall119> surgemcgee: actually, that should only be done on the files, not directories
[19:38] <popey> mhall119: what do we do in .desktop files where no icon is present (besides an avatar@8.png) ?
[19:39] <mhall119> popey: request an icon from the author
[19:39] <mhall119> we really should have one before putting it in the PPA
[19:39] <popey> ok
[19:45] <sergiusens> rsalveti: ping
[19:45] <rsalveti> sergiusens: ponga
[19:46] <popey> mhall119: mailed author, any preference which one I look at next?
[19:47] <mhall119> popey: nope
[19:47] <sergiusens> rsalveti: remember caipirinha
[19:47] <sergiusens> rsalveti: nah, I didn't ping you about that
[19:47] <sergiusens> :_)
[19:48]  * popey looks at exfm
[19:48] <rsalveti> sergiusens: ;-)
[19:48] <ZDmitry> mhall119: I mean corresponding revisions of ubuntu-terminal-app and it's plugin. I added new qml item there. Did you see them?
[19:48] <sergiusens> rsalveti: these would need to be expedited: http://people.canonical.com/~sergiusens/patches_stamp/
[19:49] <rsalveti> sergiusens: on my way
[19:49] <mhall119> ZDmitry: I got the links to the branches, but haven't looked at them yet, it's on my TODO for this afternoon
[19:50] <ZDmitry> Then everything is ok )
[19:59] <rsalveti> sergiusens: doing a quick build, but they look good
[20:09] <kgunn> bfiller: ping
[20:09] <bfiller> kgunn: pong
[20:14] <sergiusens> rsalveti: ack
[20:15] <rsalveti> sergiusens: https://code.launchpad.net/~rsalveti/touch-preview-images/phablet-build-scripts-fixing-ubuntu-archive/+merge/160198
[20:16] <sergiusens> rsalveti: that fixes the changelog problem?
[20:18] <rsalveti> sergiusens: yup
[20:22] <moocow1452> Is there a cheat sheet for when your are dealing with a device that boots and stays on a black screen??
[20:23] <popey> mhall119: https://launchpad.net/~popey/+archive/ppa/+builds?build_state=pending
[20:23] <popey> mhall119: sorry, https://launchpad.net/~popey/+archive/ppa/+build/4512320
[20:24] <popey> if you want to test it on your device before we push to the ppa
[20:26] <mhall119> popey: what's the branch?
[20:26] <mhall119> I'll build it locally and copy it over
[20:26] <popey> mhall119: https://code.launchpad.net/~popey/+junk/exfm_plus_packaging
[20:26] <popey> ← not good at packaging /!\ WARNING
[20:27] <mhall119> that's okay
[20:27] <moocow1452> Can anyone help? I managed to build the bootloader for the Nook Color and adb into it, but I dunno how to fix the black screen.
[20:27] <mhall119> popey.....
[20:28] <mhall119> popey: did you forget to bzr add ./debian/ ?
[20:28] <popey> oof
[20:28] <popey> see
[20:28] <mhall119> :)
[20:28] <popey> pushed
[20:30] <sergiusens> rsalveti: there's no autoland for that yet
[20:30] <rsalveti> sergiusens: thought so, want me to merge it?
[20:34] <Oranger> mhall119 *subliminal message* review *end of subliminal message*
[20:34] <mhall119> popey: I also seem to be missing ExFmSongList.qml
[20:35] <mhall119> Oranger: still on my list, I haven't forgotten :)
[20:35] <popey> hmm
[20:35] <popey> hmm, odd, sorry mhall119
[20:35] <Oranger> mhall119: Woops sorry :x
[20:35] <popey> ah, it's because I did some silly things to muddle folders around
[20:37] <sergiusens> rsalveti: sure...
[20:37] <sergiusens> rsalveti: so remember that series issue/MR we had... might need to implement something like that anyways :-/
[20:38]  * rsalveti trying to remember
[20:38] <rsalveti> sergiusens: sorry, what was the issue?
[20:42] <sergiusens> rsalveti: need to determine series from when getting old tagged stuff and new
[20:43] <rsalveti> oh, right
[20:43] <popey> mhall119: pushed btw
[20:43] <mhall119> popey: ok
[20:44] <mhall119> popey: pmcgowan: stock ticker packaging has been finished, I just pushed it to build on the PPA
[20:45] <mhall119> popey: it's also trying to install a couple of exfm-*.png icons that aren't in the branch
[20:45] <mhall119> and JSONUrlListModel.qml
[20:45] <popey> tell you what, I'll try and build from the branch first then tell you okay? ☻
[20:45] <mhall119> :)
[20:46] <mhall119> popey: while you're in there, remove the .qmlproject file from debian/install
[20:46] <popey> thanks
[20:46] <rsalveti> sergiusens: git patches pushed (the latest ones)
[20:46]  * popey notes "bush" is not a valid bzr command
[20:46] <mhall119> it should be
[20:47] <mhall119> bzr alias is your friend
[20:48] <oly> Evening, i updated the details for my app on this list is there anything else i need todo so it get included in the collection ?
[20:48] <oly> its the resistor app :)
[20:49] <mhall119> oly: is there packaging for it already?
[20:50] <oly> there is in launchpad, and it already builds into a ppa
[20:50] <mhall119> oly: ok, let me take a look
[20:50] <popey> mhall119: rev4 builds here, and installs
[20:50] <popey> and runs from the dash ㋛
[20:51] <popey> appreciate the help mhall119, packaging is one of those things I've done once every 2 years, and never do it again so forget it all
[20:51] <popey> hopefully with collections ppa it'll cement in my head, doing more of it
[20:51] <mhall119> popey: me too, it's only through the saintly patience of didrocks and dholbach that I know what I know
[20:51] <popey> hah
[20:51] <popey> +1
[20:55] <netcurli> popey: hi. I saw you are doing packaging stuff for my Akari game app. It says on the wiki "Waiting on author".. should I have received an email from you?
[20:58] <surgemcgee> Anyone seen an app with a exit button?
[20:59] <netcurli> surgemcgee: you should be able to exit an app from the HUD menu
[21:00] <popey> netcurli: yeah, i emailed you about an hour ago
[21:01] <netcurli> mh.. .I didn't get an email
[21:01] <netcurli> from you
[21:02] <sergiusens> rsalveti: ty
[21:02] <popey> netcurli: to your lima-city address?
[21:02] <netcurli> that is a jabber adress?!
[21:03] <popey> hah
[21:03] <netcurli> I have an email adress there, too, but without the "jabber." part
[21:03] <popey> sorry.
[21:04] <popey> sent
[21:14] <mhall119> oly: still around?
[21:14] <oly> yeah
[21:14] <mhall119> oly: got a few fixes for ya
[21:14] <mhall119> https://code.launchpad.net/~mhall119/electronics-toolbox/packaging-fixes/+merge/160211
[21:16] <oly> ah cool beans will take a look :)
[21:16] <mhall119> oly: I'm going to go ahead and push this with my changes to the Collections PPA
[21:17] <oly> okay, i am merging into mine as well, cheers for that its sometimes hard to know exactly what is needed as it changes a lot :)
[21:18] <mhall119> oly: no problem, you made it easy by having it pretty much all done already :)
[21:19] <Damp> Hi! I have a problem with transferring apps to Ubuntu Phone, have anyone had a problem where your app wont show, but if you open the task meny and close an app you can see it for a brief second?
[21:19] <oly> hehe, been getting the hang of packaging with launchpad, as you can probably see by my two ppas :)
[21:19] <oly> merging changes is new in bzr though, but seems to be pretty simple
[21:25] <oly> while i am here any suggestions on how i can do a hint as to color selected ?
[21:25] <oly> I have a row of buttons each with different colours, when you click one it updates a band on the resistor, is there a good way i could highlight the related button perhaps ?
[21:26] <oly> i was looking through properties of the button and could not think up anything
[21:27] <mhall119> oly: maybe give the button a colored border?
[21:27] <oly> think i tried that, but it did not seem to accept border on it
[21:27] <oly> perhaps i was doing it wrong :)
[21:28] <Damp> Does anyone of you encounter the bug where your app wont show on the phone when you are testing it?
[21:29] <Oranger> Damp: I don't understand your bug..
[21:29] <Oranger> Damp: You don't see the app ?
[21:31] <netcurli> Damp: how do you start the app on the device? with qtcreator?
[21:31] <Damp> Ah, Let me explain it further. I have med some test apps just to get comfortable with QML. But when I create my App and tries to run it on my phone it just wont whow. But if I open another app and then closes it I can actually see it for a brief second befor it disappears again
[21:31] <Damp> Yes, I start it with QTCreator
[21:32] <oly> or perhaps i need to use button or rect instead of UbuntuShape
[21:33] <mhall119> Damp: what does your .desktop file look like?
[21:33] <Damp> I have absolutely no idea. Should I ssh into the device and look at it?
[21:33] <mhall119> Damp: or just pastebin what you have in your code directory
[21:34] <Damp> The code for one of the test apps? Sure
[21:35] <Damp> http://pastebin.com/5WRiVTVM
[21:35] <mhall119> Damp: do you have a test2.desktop file?
[21:36] <Damp> Is that on the same directory as my project file?
[21:36] <mhall119> it would be, usually
[21:36] <Damp> Oh, no. There is no such file in my project directory no
[21:40] <Damp> mhall119: Is there a start guide where it explains why and how I make that .desktop file?
[21:40] <mhall119> Damp: it's probably easiest to start by using the Ubuntu templates in QtCretor, it should make it for you
[21:41] <mhall119> Unity uses the .desktop file for window management, so without it Unity doesn't really know about your app
[21:41] <Damp> Right now when I start a new project I use Application -> QtQuick 2
[21:41] <mhall119> no
[21:41] <mhall119> Ubuntu Touch -> Simple UI
[21:41] <mhall119> or Tabbed UI
[21:42] <Damp> I dont have that choice, maybe I have forgot a plugin or something?
[21:42] <mhall119> did you install QtCreator and the Ubuntu Plugins from the PPA?
[21:43] <mhall119> Damp: http://developer.ubuntu.com/get-started/gomobile/ has instructions for installing everything
[21:43] <Damp> I followed the quick start guide, I think. Let me find the page I read this on
[21:44] <Damp> Thats the one I followed, Ill try to reinstall it :)
[21:44] <Damp> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:canonical-qt5-edgers/qt5-proper && sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-sdk-team/ppa && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-sdk notepad-qml
[21:45] <Damp> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[21:45] <Damp> So, I ahve installed it
[21:45] <mhall119> do you see an Ubuntu logo on the left-side of QtCreator?
[21:46] <Damp> yeah
[21:46] <mhall119> huh, you should have those templates then....
[21:46] <mhall119> Damp: come back around tomorrow during Europe's working hours and I'll ask the SDK team for help
[21:48] <Damp> I do have the Ubuntu choice. But not Ubuntu Phone?
[21:50] <Damp> Allright :) Its annoying not getting to try to display my apps on the phone I bought to try this :p
[22:01] <Damp> Is there a place that has some great guides to test swiping and multiple views?
[22:12] <mhall119> Damp: you can look into generic Qt/QML tutorials for most of that
[22:13] <mhall119> Damp: http://developer.ubuntu.com/resources/app-developer-cookbook/mobile/ might also have some stuff to help you
[22:27] <Oranger> mhall119: If we want to display images on docviewer it will be obligatory to use a c++ plugin to know the MimeType of the file..
[22:30] <mhall119> Oranger: we can't just use the Image component?
[22:31] <mhall119> Oranger: on your MP, if you want to move or rename a file that's under bzr version control, use "bzr move"
[22:31] <Oranger> mhall119: Yes but how to know if you have to display an image or a text
[22:31] <mhall119> this will track the rename/move as part of the source history, so if somebody makes a change to a file before the rename, you can still apply it after the rename
[22:32] <mhall119> Oranger: ah, I see what you mean
[22:32] <mhall119> Oranger: is that something your launcher can do?
[22:32] <mhall119> or something you can add to the launcher
[22:32] <mhall119> to inject both the filepath passed on the commandline, and also the mimetype for the file?
[22:33] <Oranger> mhall119: Yes, I think I will create an object with all that informations
[22:33] <Oranger> path + mimetype + size
[22:33] <mhall119> Oranger: cool
[22:34] <mhall119> also, your .qmlproject still lists docviewer.qml
[22:34] <Oranger> mhall119: Oh yes... I did it but not in my bzr directory...
[22:35] <Oranger> mhall119: To fix the problem with the moved file, I have to uncommit + push, right ?
[22:39] <mhall119> Oranger: you can, or we can just take it as-is this time
[22:39] <mhall119> it was more for future reference
[22:39] <Oranger> mhall119: Hum ok, thank :) I fix the .qmlproject now
[22:42] <Oranger> mhall119: Done, now everything should be ok
[22:42] <mhall119> cool, I'll give it another look
[22:42] <mhall119> thanks Oranger
[23:31] <alexfel> hi
[23:31] <alexfel> do you know how many functionalities have the most recent build of ubuntu?
[23:32] <alexfel> i'm testing it on my nexus 4
[23:34] <RobbyF> I think i'm going to get the HTC One and use my nexus 4 for ubuntu testing and sell off my galaxy nexus.