[00:06] hi! [00:07] i am a young programmer and i want to help the comunity to develope touch :) [00:07] anybody help me? === Doctor is now known as Guest13600 [00:19] Hey, boys, I have question for you [00:20] whether really to stitch Acer liquid mini Ubuntu touch?(GT) [00:53] ogra_: rsalveti frameworks/base went from 1.2G to 7.3M [00:53] sergiusens: cool [00:53] * sergiusens prepares patch [01:30] sergiusens: only bug I could find is the camera flip/invert that happens after switching from back to front [01:30] the rest is good, we can safely tag it [01:30] and be done with quantal :-) [01:30] rsalveti: yeah... gusch found the root cause, but I don't think it's going to be fixed soon [01:31] rsalveti: I'm moving to raring no matter what tomorrow :-) [01:31] sergiusens: yeah :-) === freeflyi1g is now known as freeflying [02:44] rsalveti: http://people.canonical.com/~sergiusens/patches_framework_base/ === SkavenXXI is now known as SkavenXXI-[OFF] [03:12] sergiusens: cool, quite a few, will test them tomorrow :-) [03:12] rsalveti: sounds good... expect the image to be smaller too [03:13] sergiusens: awesome [03:14] a bit smaller, not that much ;-) [05:33] test message... === highvolt1ge is now known as highvoltage [06:27] salve [06:27] mi sapete dire se nella versione ultima du ubuntu touch è possibile la connesione dati mobile? [06:29] can you tell me if the latest version of ubuntu touch is able to the Mobile data connection? [06:58] good morning === chriadam is now known as chriadam|away [08:38] didrocks: what should I do to get https://code.launchpad.net/~xnox/platform-api/hybris-symbols/+merge/158878 merged? [08:38] and https://code.launchpad.net/~xnox/qtubuntu-sensors/symbols/+merge/158884 as well ? [08:39] xnox: pinging the upstream guys once they are around? I think I can merge those, however I think a rapid pointer somewhere on how to get the demangled symbols generated would be useful :) [08:39] didrocks: | c++filt [08:40] plus fiddling with sed to add "(c++)" and quote the demangled symbol =) [08:40] xnox: mind updating that to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DailyRelease/FAQ? [08:40] didrocks: right.... ack =) [08:40] xnox: thanks! I think a step by step, which package to install and all would be needed :) [08:42] * xnox whines at the moon like a dog [08:48] hi [08:49] someone knows if i could intall the ubuntu tablet's image via cwm recovery? [08:49] yes you can [08:50] you need the device .zip and the phablet armhf .zip [08:50] thanks where i can download them? [08:51] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/daily-preinstalled/current/ [08:52] filomaster, see the install wikipage, it has a "manual install" section [08:53] thank you ^^ i want to test it on an onda v812 [08:53] it would be soo great if these cheap tablets can run with ubuntu [08:53] if the android parts werent ported you wont have much luck with that .... see the porting wikipage, it is in the channel topic [08:54] (and the devices page too, if there is a port yet) [09:01] have anyone see this before? [09:01] qml-phone-shell: /build/buildd/ubuntu-platform-api-0.18/src/android/ubuntu_application_api.cpp:51: {anonymous}::Bridge::Bridge(): Assertion `lib_handle && "Error loading ubuntu_application_api"' failed. === ckpringle_ is now known as ckpringle [09:34] morning fginther, quick question: do you know what the Jenkins failure in this merge proposal might be? It looks related to packaging to me: [09:34] https://code.launchpad.net/~chocanto/ubuntu-docviewer-app/plainText/+merge/159440 [09:34] http://91.189.93.125:8080/job/ubuntu-docviewer-app-quantal-amd64-ci/9/console === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [11:23] hi all === arthurm is now known as artmello [11:31] mhall119: ping [11:40] Herro? [11:41] ...Anyone here? [11:47] nope. just us phones and tablets and phablets. [11:47] +1 [11:48] I'm a smartwatch. *puts on hipster glasses* [11:55] sergiusens, rsalveti is there a description of which project in https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-touch-preview corresponds to which feature in the UI? [11:55] I try going by name but cannot find where the battery settings are handled. I guessed the indicator ones [11:55] janimo`, i think thats more an mhall119 or a kaleo question [11:56] ogra_, ah right, I asked the Android folk :) [11:56] well, the phonedations folk :) [11:56] * janimo` notices is not quite 9 AM in Brasilia so kaleo may not be around yet [11:57] he is in brazil ? [11:58] ogra_, yes I think he is living there now [11:58] oh [11:58] crazy frenchie :) [11:59] french ? [12:00] renato, hello, do you know which project/bzr branch has the battery and brightness control code? [12:00] Oranger, kaleo is french afaik ... [12:01] ogra_, cool, i'm not the only french here, ahah [12:01] :) [12:03] ogra_: what about french? :p [12:03] nothing ... [12:03] :) [12:03] ogra_: be careful, the sprint is just one week away! :p [12:03] Has there been any word about Ubuntu redesigning their TV and desktop to match u [12:03] Touch? [12:03] yes [12:04] Sorry, I accidentaly split the lines there. [12:04] unity next (which you know as ubuntu touch UI) will replace the current desktop unity [12:05] Will it have desktop-specific stylings? === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [12:05] Such as the BFB Launcher button remaining in there, etc. [12:06] yes, i think the plan is that the enduser wont really notice the change ... beyond it likely being snappier and more stable [12:07] And looking more unified (Black topbar instead of brown-grey, Move away from Ambiance, etc.) [12:07] *? [12:07] no idea about that [12:08] I don't like Ambiance. At ALL. Or the outdated icon theme. [12:22] janimo`: ubuntu-touch-preview is just the project group [12:23] rsalveti, right, I meant which of the dozens of subprojects listed there :) [12:25] janimo`: problem is that not all projects are there [12:25] from UI perspective I believe just the indicators are there, and a few apps [12:25] https://code.launchpad.net/~unity-team/unity/phablet for the shell [12:25] janimo`, lp:indicators-client [12:27] janimo`: don't think we have a table or such describing projects and branches === cloudnull_zzz is now known as cloudnull [12:27] renato, thanks I checked that, but saw no explciit battery settings [12:27] * janimo` looks harder [12:28] janimo`, inside of plugins folder [12:28] renato, or are the texts there actually images in the icons package? [12:28] gor instance grepping "Remaining charge" shows no results [12:29] janimo`, the text came from the server [12:29] janimo`, the client only display the information [12:29] renato, you mean the indicator-server bzr repo? I have that checked out as well [12:30] janimo`, lp:indicator-power/phablet [12:30] does not seem to have power or battery related code in it [12:30] renato, ok, I wonder how I missed indicator power [12:31] oh I see, it is not listed there in LP https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-touch-preview [12:32] renato, so it is a branch of the regular ubuntu package === SkavenXXI-[OFF] is now known as SkavenXXI === seb128_ is now known as seb128 [12:48] sergiusens: should we tag and create a qatracker entry? or just tagging is enough? [12:49] it might be useful to have the test results published as well [12:49] * sergiusens reads [12:49] rsalveti: needs balloons for that... I'm not prived enough [12:51] ogra_: I think we are bringing down the 15G considerably [12:51] sergiusens, yeah [12:51] sergiusens: regarding the #92 image [12:52] ogra_: today's compressed image is 1.2gb [12:52] we're getting there :-) [12:52] rsalveti: yup, 92 image for quantal, need balloons or stgraber (iirc) [12:52] yup, i see that :) [12:52] but we need to discuss the plan in more detail i think, thats why i created that wikipage [12:53] especially since we need someone knowledgerable to maintain the toolchain etc [12:54] ogra_: sure [12:58] dpm, The jenkins failure was caused by a missing PPA dependency. I've add ppa:canonical-qt5-edgers/qt5-proper and the build is now passing. [12:59] excellent, thanks fginther [12:59] dpm, you're welcome [12:59] oh hey fginther [13:00] Oranger, hello [13:01] mhall119 said that you could help me about the fact that Jenkins can't build the ubuntu-docviewer-app in the quantal environement [13:03] ubuntu-docviewer-app need the qt5 library but of course she is not present in quantal PPAs [13:03] Oranger, That was the same issue dpm ran into, It should be fixed now [13:04] fginther: Ok, i try [13:04] fginther: Thank you :) [13:04] Oranger, indeed, I noticed the build failing on the doc viewer and I pinged fginther about it. It's the same thing [13:04] Oranger, dpm, by the way, the docview-app needs a version bump [13:04] dpm: Oh so that's good [13:04] rsalveti: I did a repo sync this morning and when tryeing to reapply patches 0007, 0010, 0019 failed... I'll regen them [13:04] it build now, excelent [13:05] sergiusens: that's weird, nothing changed at frameworks/base afaik [13:05] Oranger, dpm, an incorrect versioned package made it into the ppa and a version bump is needed to replace it [13:05] rsalveti: I know :-/ and it's just an rm :-P [13:05] fginther, yes but i was waiting first that it build correctly [13:05] Oranger, dpm, I have an MP to fix it: https://code.launchpad.net/~fginther/ubuntu-docviewer-app/version-bump-0.1.1/+merge/159886 [13:06] fginther: Now I can add your patch :) [13:06] Oranger, ok, no worries then [13:06] fginther, I saw your merge proposals, thanks! === ckpringle_ is now known as ckpringle [13:08] Oranger, are you going to put the version bump changes in your branch? If so, could you mark https://code.launchpad.net/~fginther/ubuntu-docviewer-app/version-bump-0.1.1/+merge/159886 as rejected with a short explanation? Otherwise it might be worth marking that branch as approved, wait for the change to land and you can than update your branch with the trunk version [13:10] dpm: I was thinking about merge the plainText branch in the trunk, then merge the version dump in the trunk [13:10] Oranger, sounds good [13:11] dpm: Right now i'm just waiting for Jenkins to merge my branch [13:11] great, thanks a lot for your work Oranger [13:12] dpm: You're welcome :) Thank you too [13:13] But actually I don't really know what Jenkins is waiting... [13:18] Oranger, oh, it was waiting for the status of the merge proposal to be set to Approved. I've done that now, and Jenkins should now land the branch into trunk [13:18] dpm: Yes I saw that, thank you :) [13:18] I'm not sure how long it takes generally, but looking at another branch from this morning, it took about 15 mins for Jenkins to merge the branch after it had been set to Approved [13:19] this should give you a rough idea, or perhaps fginther can tell us in more detail what's the frequency at which Jenkins does autolandings [13:20] dpm: In the dashboard i can see that he does antolanding every 15min [13:20] dpm, Oranger, yes, every 15 minutes [13:20] ok, cool, that should answer our question, then :) [13:20] well spotted [13:21] thanks [13:21] always good to know :) [13:28] I have a Samsung Galaxy Tab 7, can I install Ubuntu Touch? [13:31] see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices [13:32] fginther: ping [13:32] gusch, hello [13:32] fginther: any idea how to get the bot to run that again? https://code.launchpad.net/~schwann/ubuntu-weather-app/weather-first-autopilot-test/+merge/157298 [13:40] gusch, looking into this a little more closely [13:40] fginther: thx [13:45] gusch, If you want to retry the autolanding, someone from the ubuntu-*-dev team needs to re-approve. If you just want to run a -ci job, you need to be a member of one of the ubuntu-*-dev teams [13:48] fginther: re-running the -ci job is what I want here [13:48] fginther: would be weired if I'm not part of an ubuntu-*-dev team [13:49] gusch, it's not all that weird, it's just that the automation will not kick in for you. I can run the job manually [13:49] fginther: would be cool === dandrader is now known as dandrader|brb === mmrazik is now known as mmrazik|otp === sforshee` is now known as sforshee [14:05] gusch, test completed [14:06] fginther: I pushed a fix already - can you start it again? [14:06] dpm: Every branches are merged ! :) [14:07] excellent, thanks Oranger! === dandrader|brb is now known as dandrader === mmrazik|otp is now known as mmrazik === oreneeshy_ is now known as oreneeshy [14:43] mhall119: Is VladimirMoolle working on the image-viewer module of ubuntu-docviewer-app ? [14:49] Oranger: he said he was in the IRC meeting last week [14:49] but I haven't seen any code or merge proposals yet [14:49] ChickenCutlass: pingly, I was wondering if you could share how you mounted the rootfs via the initrd [14:49] my initrd just hangs waiting for the rootfs to mount [14:49] shadeslayer: so for the nexus4 I just manually added mount /dev/block/mmcp23 /data [14:50] uhh [14:50] and then root=/data ? [14:50] shadeslayer: yes [14:50] okay [14:51] ChickenCutlass: I have access to the boot messages btw [14:51] shadeslayer: via serial console [14:51] ChickenCutlass: http://paste.kde.org/729668/ [14:51] nope [14:51] via recovery -> /proc/last_knsg [14:51] *kmsg [14:51] ah [14:51] g_serial doesn't work at all [14:51] nor does fbcon [14:51] both seem quite broken to me [14:52] yeah, seems to be an issue with that kernel [14:52] there's some weird stuff going with the framebuffer at boot [14:52] for eg : [ 7.022609] s3c-fb exynos5-fb.1: failed to find bootloader framebuffer [14:53] hello all. I saw that there was a beta for ubuntu touch. I was told not to install the developers preview. what is the recommendation for this release? [14:53] apparently you can pass a memory address and thats loaded to be displayed on the screen [14:53] mhall119: Ok, because I want to work on it, but I hope that we will not work together on the same thing.. [14:53] johnjohn101, there was no beta ... thats a flase message [14:53] *false [14:53] ogra_: ChickenCutlass either way, no need for fbcon for now since there's /proc/last_kmsg [14:53] oh, so wait until this fall? [14:53] sergiusens, btw, you made it on the front of the two biggest german IT news sites [14:54] johnjohn101, for a real beta ? yeah [14:54] Quick question does Touch support usb host now? My Nexus 7 digitizer broke so i need a mouse to use it. Does this work now, or should I keep waiting? [14:54] tx orga_: give me some time to convince the wife to let me get a new tablet!! [14:54] heh [14:55] Completed initial "Security & Privacy" settings design for the phone: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityAndPrivacySettings#Phone [14:56] mpt, hmm, "When locked allow" could become hoddily long over time [14:56] i would put that onm its own page [14:56] mpt: Wow, great work ! [14:56] *hoddirly [14:56] bah [14:56] horridly [14:56] ogra_, if it does, I certainly will. :-) But I'm expecting it to be initially shorter than that, actually ... maybe only camera. We'll see. [14:57] k :) [14:58] ogra_: how can I have done that? [14:58] sergiusens, Ubuntu Touch Beta announcement [14:59] ogra_: hah... I just said, let the testing begin :-P [14:59] Next ... Wi-Fi, methinks [14:59] what a way to take things out of proportion [14:59] heh yeah [14:59] Oranger: if you're ready to work on it, I say go for it [15:00] Oranger: you might want to just send an email to the team letting everybody know that you are [15:00] mhall119: Yep, I will do, thank [15:03] sergiusens: yeah, you released a beta version ;-) [15:03] even hit slashdot [15:03] haha [15:04] i wonder if we need some dholbachication for that :) [15:04] to clearify we didnt do a beta [15:04] on the other hand there were only few people in the channel asking about it yet [15:05] how's the product looking so far? i can wait until october to install [15:08] ChickenCutlass: does /data need special permissions? ( like /dev is created with 0755 ) [15:08] just check the permissions for / on yoour desktop :) [15:08] or should I merely do : mkdir /data ; mount -t ext4 -o defaults /dev/block/platform/dw_mmc.0/by-name/userdata /data [15:08] shadeslayer: I just used the defaults [15:08] Hi! I am trying to run a small app that I wrote (just testing basic elements and such) on UBuntu Phone on my Nexus 4. but the app doesnt display itself. However, If I open another App (i.e. browser) and then quits it, it displays for a second then it disappears. Have anyone encoutered this before? [15:09] shadeslayer, "rw,noatime,nodiratime,discard,errors=remount-ro" should be a good set of options [15:09] ogra_: rsalveti balloons was sort of taking care [15:09] ah, k [15:09] he's not online now though === _salem is now known as salem_ [15:10] Just making sure ;) [15:10] now to wait for the N10 to get charged [15:10] so I can flash stuff [15:21] Kann hier jemand Deutsch? [15:21] XperiaV, not sure if any Germans are here. [15:21] ok [15:22] * netcurli is German [15:22] XperiaV, dholbach is one:P [15:23] ogra too [15:23] dholbach, whoa! [15:23] That's a LOT of Germans:P [15:23] dholbach: how do we get the word out that there is no beta? [15:24] sergiusens, ubuntu-devel-announce@? [15:26] No beta of what? [15:30] smartboyhw: Of ubuntu-touch [15:31] dholbach: one more, do you have access to isotracker? [15:31] Oranger, oh OK [15:31] sergiusens, I'm afraid I don't, but stgraber should === ckpringle_ is now known as ckpringle [15:32] stgraber: can you add build 20130420.2 to these: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/268/builds ? [15:32] thanks dholbach [15:33] sergiusens: no, those should auto-publish, if they don't, someone should fix that instead of manually pushing new builds [15:33] hi, can anyone tell me if the nexus 7 3g version is already supported? [15:34] sergiusens, ^^^ do we have a fix that makes it use the grouper image on nakasig frpm phablet-flash ? [15:34] *from [15:36] stgraber: this is the quantal-based tagged build, which we'll not be auto publishing/building anymore [15:36] so it might indeed need some manual steps [15:37] I know the raring one is already being auto-published === dandrader is now known as dandrader|lunch [15:37] rsalveti, well, there are some new hoops i need to jump through when tagging it on cdimage apparently [15:37] ogra_: right [15:37] though i am not sure there is a proper endpoint on the tracker for these images [15:38] yeah [15:38] seems cjwatson uses "qa_product_base=ubuntu-touch-preview/daily-preinstalled" in the sync script [15:38] that would be wrong for the milestones [15:38] rsalveti, sergiusens: so what should be the current version on the tracker? it looks like the last build was 20130422 [15:39] thats the daily [15:40] then there are two milestones monthly-04/ ... (20130418) and monthly-04.1/ (20130420.2) [15:40] i know, pretty messy ... [15:42] well, i'm like, wtf have i just read ? [15:42] still got no clue if i can install touch on my nexus 3g lol [15:43] joao, go to the install wikipage, pick the manual install method and use the "grouper" images [15:45] ok thanks, i will give it a try [15:55] ChickenCutlass: doesn't work for me , all I get is http://paste.kde.org/730094/ [15:56] I'm going to replace the rootfs init with a call to change brightness [15:56] lets see if it even works [15:59] nope, doesn't [16:01] hey guys. is there a image for the razr i planned? [16:02] itsme_, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices [16:02] stgraber: ogra_ rsalveti the quantal thing is a special case... not following current [16:03] raring is on current [16:03] sergiusens, yes, but do we want it on the tracker at all ? [16:03] http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/243/builds [16:03] we dont really have a concept of having released milestones on the tracker [16:03] ogra_: well, I would rather run a cycle with the quantal stuff to have it officially closed... [16:04] since they being released somewhat implicates that they have been tested before :) [16:04] ogra_: ack... they have... but we didn't have a place to set the results or anything as we don't have access to it [16:04] it was a Saturday thing [16:05] anyways, if it doesn't matter, no need [16:05] well, as long as you think they are good ... the tracker doesnt really matter :) === jasoncwarner__ is now known as jasoncwarner [16:29] ogra_: qa tracker was more to keep track of the known issues for that release specifically [16:30] useful for people doing demos based on that image to know what not to demo :-) [16:31] rsalveti, right, but it isnt really designed to be used after releases ... we need to adjust our workflow for this ... i.e. we should have made sure 20130418 and 20130420.2 are definitely kept on the tracker for looking up issues after the milestone went out [16:32] *milestones [16:32] and that both of them have the proper issues tracked [16:32] right [16:33] well, not necessarily need to be at qatracker, but this might be happening again later [16:33] until everything is moved to the archive [16:33] as daily images for raring will not last long either [16:36] yeah [16:36] (hopefully at least) === Deihmos_ is now known as Deihmos === dandrader|lunch is now known as dandrader [16:54] ogra_: hey, I'm looking at the android flashing method at flash-kernel, mostly at http://paste.ubuntu.com/5593102/ [16:54] looking at this for, it probes the partition to find a valid bootpartition with abootimg [16:55] problem with the current setup at mako is that partition 6 is boot and 7 is recovery [16:55] but both are recognized as boot partition, as as it for goes on, it ends up using 7 [16:55] which is not what we want [16:55] we have a db entry that points to the flash target [16:55] iirc [16:55] ogra_: is that on purpose or was it because the other devices the boot was always the last entry? [16:55] ogra_: right [16:55] we should just make it override that detection method [16:56] I'm trying to reuse that [16:56] Is there a cheat sheet for when your are dealing with a device that boots and stays on a black screen? [16:56] the function was originally written completely differnt by me [16:56] its actually a no-op now [16:56] debian crippled it a lot [16:56] and thats what we got back :) [16:57] ogra_: but this code is used by ac100 and grouper [16:57] my original code actually *did* compare sizes [16:57] right [16:57] now it just uses the first partition [16:57] ... it finds [16:57] is that available somewhere? [16:57] or was it merged at trunk? [16:58] it was in precises flash-kernel or earlier iirc ... but i think we should just use the db entry [16:58] and override the detection altogether [16:59] detecting stuff we dont relly need to detect has the potential of adding bugs ... [16:59] ogra_: what you mean exactly? [16:59] sure [16:59] but should we hardcode the partition? [16:59] sounds like trouble as well [16:59] as that depends on the previous android version used [17:00] Boot-Device [17:00] right, that's hardcoding [17:00] that takes a partition name [17:00] right, why wouldnt we hardcode ? [17:00] it wont change sinvce the bootloader wont change [17:00] wouldn't that depend on the partition scheme previously used by the device? [17:01] that might be true for boot and recovery [17:01] it depends on the bootloader completely [17:01] and since we are unlikely to touch it i would just tie the partition to the device [17:01] in the db [17:02] and completely override the detection [17:02] right, let me just compare the partitions here to make sure that's indeed fixed [17:02] yup [17:02] might need to use android as method though [17:02] so we know we need to use abootimg [17:02] I was just planning on adding a temporary flag to tell if you need to update the initrd, so we can use until we switch the container model [17:02] thats fine, just make it skip the detection if Boot-Device is set and use the value from there [17:02] we can wait as well [17:03] right [17:03] and probably have another codepath that just updates vmlinuz [17:03] and ignores the initrd [17:03] yup [17:04] ogra_: will try something here [17:04] just a plain abootimg -u $Boot-Device -k $path to kernel [17:04] ogra_: do you know which partition is used by ac100 and grouper? [17:04] ogra_:yup, that's what I used locally [17:04] on ac100 it varies [17:04] so just keep the old way for it [17:04] why? [17:04] on grouper it might too, not sure [17:04] why it varies? [17:04] then we can't hardcode :-) [17:04] because of different models that use different MMCs [17:05] we cant hardcode for ac100 [17:05] that why i say do it in the db [17:05] right, we might just fix the logic [17:05] do we have any case which boot is after recovery? [17:05] the code should just react on $Boot-Device [17:05] and for ac00 we simply dont set that [17:05] not that i know of [17:05] right, but the same might happen for the devices we're using [17:06] a simple break there would already work then [17:06] in case it finds a root partition [17:06] i dont think it will since we are using the android nomenclature [17:06] we might even add some more checks to see if it's a recovery img or not [17:06] well, ac100 was made for android :-) [17:06] and for different device models you usually have differnt naming [17:06] so is grouper [17:06] if if that can change, others can as well [17:06] right, but on ac100 we cant read the android device name [17:07] we got different hw revisions for mako already [17:07] since there is no android [17:07] we also have different ones for grouper [17:07] but they have different names in android [17:07] that's why I think we should just improve the autodetection [17:07] (teh 32G 3G model is different) [17:07] right [17:07] because here we're using /proc/cpuinfo [17:07] which is probably the same for all variants [17:08]