[05:55] <ltrottier_> tomreyn: ha
[05:56] <ltrottier_> tomreyn: you're saying I have no swap … ?
[05:56] <tomreyn> oh this was your paste, then yes, that seems to eb so
[05:56] <ltrottier_> tomreyn: hmmm … well that's stupid of me
[05:56] <tomreyn> also your firefox was using 1.7 GB RAM of those 3 you have
[05:57] <ltrottier_> tomreyn: it *claims* I have swap
[05:57] <ltrottier_> or, frisk does, at least
[05:57] <ltrottier_> *fdisk
[05:58] <tomreyn> well then it's not mounted
[05:58] <tomreyn> Total swap = 0kB
[05:58] <tomreyn> ^ quoted from what you pasted
[05:58] <ltrottier_> hmm
[05:58] <tomreyn> try: cat /proc/swaps
[05:58] <dwarder> hey
[05:59] <dwarder> hello
[05:59] <ltrottier_> tomreyn: hmmmmmm
[05:59] <dwarder>  dumping master file: /etc/bind/tmp-KJNdtD38sg: open: permission denied
[05:59] <tomreyn> hello dwarder
[05:59] <dwarder> should i relocate this tmp file dir somewhere?
[05:59] <dwarder> or should i just add /etc/bind/* rw, to apparmor
[06:00] <tomreyn> dwarder: find out what created this file and hit the developer with a clue stick
[06:00] <ltrottier_> tomreyn: I have no idea why I there's no swap :(
[06:00] <tomreyn> dwarder: temporary files don't belong to /etc
[06:01] <ltrottier_> swap on -a reports "cannot find the device for UUID …
[06:01] <ltrottier_> (that's after I turned it off)
[06:01] <Jordan_U> !rootirc | root___
[06:02] <ltrottier_> mkswap reported success
[06:02] <dwarder> tomreyn: developer of BIND9
[06:02] <dwarder> tomreyn: ?
[06:02] <dwarder> tomreyn: this is upod zone transfer on slave
[06:02] <dwarder> upon*
[06:02] <Jordan_U> ltrottier_: mkswap creates a new swap "filesystem" with a new UUID. You need to adjust your /etc/fstab to match.
[06:03] <tomreyn> ltrottier_: so you have a swap partition in /etc/fstab but the UUID given there is wrong. run blkid on the partition which is to contain your swap (and which you have ensured doesn't contain important data and which you have run mkswap on)
[06:03] <ltrottier_> yup
[06:04] <ltrottier_> ok
[06:04] <ltrottier_> swap on works now
[06:04] <tomreyn> dwarder: seriously? well i don't run bind, but this really seems like the wrong location to store temporary files. maybe you have it chrooted with a link in /etc?
[06:05] <ltrottier_> tomreyn: I'm a bit confused as to how this happened, but I guess I'm glad it's back.
[06:06] <ltrottier_> … would certainly explain why Chrome was so crash-prone
[06:06] <herewebe> hello, i have a question? how do you install windows 7 over ubuntu? i cannot boot the cd?
[06:06] <ltrottier_> tomreyn: anyhow, thanks :)
[06:08] <tomreyn> ltrottier_: if the physical disk is old or you suspect that it's degrading, use smartmontools to inspect its s.m.a.r.t. data
[06:09] <herewebe> hello, i have a question? how do you install windows 7 over ubuntu? i cannot boot the cd?
[06:10] <tomreyn> herewebe: this channel is about ubuntu, not windows. ubuntu doesn't prevent your system from starting from cd-rom
[06:10] <herewebe> ok, well then how do i boot a cd after restart?
[06:11] <tomreyn> you insert a bootable cd-rom in your drive and ensure your bios will boot off it
[06:11] <ltrottier_> tomreyn: thanks for the advice. smartmonctl reports that all's well
[06:12] <excervo> herewebe, is your optical drive set to first boot?
[06:14] <tomreyn> ltrottier_: you will want to run a selftest
[06:14] <ltrottier_> tomreyn: in progress
[06:14] <ltrottier_> tomreyn: though just a short one
[06:14] <rigved> hi everyone
[06:14] <rigved> can someone please tell me where is the image (that is used on the lock screen in 12.10) stored on the computer?
[06:15] <tomreyn> ltrottier_: ...and learn about how to properly interpret the results for your very disk model (return values or their meaning can differ by vendor)
[06:15] <rigved> is it the same as the wallpaper location or is there some other place?
[06:15] <ltrottier_> tomreyn: ok. didn't know that. thanks
[06:15] <big_Man> I am trying to cd into a squid folder that is localted on a mounted usb drive and it is telling me I cannot cd into the (symlink?) folder
[06:16] <big_Man> Also I am dumb as hell and need adult supervision.
[06:17] <tomreyn> big_Man: is it really a symlink? use stat o it. if so, maybe the target does not exist? use readlink -f on it.
[06:17] <tomreyn> can't help with that last issue
[06:17] <Jordan_U> big_Man: What is the exact command you're running, and the exact output?
[06:18] <big_Man> cd /etc/squid
[06:18] <big_Man> -ash: cd: can't cd to /etc/squid
[06:18] <big_Man> but it shows up if I do ls -al
[06:18] <big_Man> It shows up light blue
[06:19] <RPG_Master_> I have a machine I'm using for video game emulation, and I had the neat idea that hey, maybe I can make a boot up animation for it? Does anyone know of a way for Ubuntu 12.10 to play a full screen video on boot to desktop?
[06:19] <RPG_Master_> fullscreen video, then exit to desktop for emulation frontend to load
[06:19] <coolot> newbie here with ubuntu...... got a question. I want to transfer my ACDC folder mp3 files to a different folder. how ever i have 54 subfolders and all i want is to copy just the mp3 files only not including the subfolders. how can i do it without accessing every each folder. i am trying to use the find command but it is showing all of my mp3 files.
[06:19] <tomreyn> big_Man: paste the single line of youtput you get when you run: ls -l /etc/squid
[06:20] <jnhghy> where can I find any documentation about quickly ?
[06:20] <big_Man> lrwxrwxrwx    1 root     root           18 Sep  7  2012 squid -> /mnt/usb/etc/sq
[06:21] <tomreyn> big_Man: okay, tat's indeed a symlink. and the target exists?
[06:21] <Guest24567> I heard that linux mint was based on ubuntu and i wanted to see if this community might be able to help me with internet connection sharing
[06:22] <big_Man> Yes, the Squid whitelist exists and is currently working.
[06:22] <big_Man> ...much to my current dismay.
[06:22] <Guest24567> I have searched high and low for answers to this problem and have no idea on what to do next
[06:23] <tomreyn> big_Man: so when you run "ls -l /mnt/usb/etc/sq" it again gives a single line of output indicating this is a file?
[06:23] <moza> Hello. After an upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04, i am trying to figure out why my documents won't print. They just all end up "stopped". Are there specifics steps to troubleshoot printing? Just now i can see my printer in system-config-printer.
[06:23] <Guest24567> I need to share my ethernet connection from my main computer over wifi to my laptop
[06:23] <Guest24567> can anyone guide me through this please
[06:23] <big_Man> t:/etc# ls -l /mnt/usb/etc/sq
[06:23] <big_Man> ls: /mnt/usb/etc/sq: No such file or directory
[06:24] <tomreyn> big_Man: so actually the destination of your symlink does not exist.
[06:24] <big_Man> Oh, ok.
[06:25] <tomreyn> big_Man: ...which means the error message is perfectly correct.
[06:25] <big_Man> That sucks lol.
[06:25] <big_Man> Thank you for your help however!
[06:25] <tomreyn> !mint | Guest24567
[06:26] <Guest24567> I just came from there. They weren't able to help me
[06:28] <tomreyn> Guest24567: same here
[06:28] <tomreyn> moza: if you want it detailed: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingPrintingProblems
[06:29] <tomreyn> moza: but you may want to try printing a test page first
[06:29] <moza> ok
[06:29] <tomreyn> moza: also try accessing http://localhost:631 and see whether you can spot an issue there.
[06:29] <moza> I am just trying and nothing seems to go through to the printer.
[06:30] <moza> The program says it sends the task properly though.
[06:30] <OpenSorce> Is it common for the 12.10 installer to sit at the "Preparing to Install..." window for 30 to 40 minutes?
[06:30] <Jordan_U> Guest24567: Unfortunately this channel still doesn't support Mint, no matter how successful or unsuccessful you are at getting Mint support in other channels.
[06:30] <Slart> moza: you've checked the syslog for errors that might pop up when you print?
[06:30] <Guest24567> Then let me ask you this.
[06:30] <tomreyn> OpenSorce: no, check your installation media for errors.
[06:30] <Slart> OpenSorce: not for a normal install, no
[06:30] <moza> Slart : i haven't
[06:31] <Guest24567> If I install ubuntu with unity does it have an easy way of accomplishing what I need
[06:31] <Jordan_U> Guest24567: Yes.
[06:31] <Slart> moza: run a "tail -f /var/log/syslog" in a terminal and then print something and see what pops up
[06:31] <moza> tomreyn : thanks, i now have a more detailed error message on the localhost::631 page. It is : "The PPD version (5.2.5 Simplified) is not compatible with Gutenprint 5.2.8-pre1." with a state at "stopped".
[06:32] <OpenSorce> Guest24567, that would depend on your needs, you may have stated them and I missed it though
[06:32] <Jordan_U> Guest24567: There are general GNU/Linux support channels, like ##linux where you can also try to get Mint support.
[06:32] <KidBeta> im wondering if its easy to use inbuilt command line tools to scale a arbitary image with a arbitary size and aspect raio such that say the x axis is 1000 and also keep the aspect ratio correct.
[06:32] <Guest24567> I need to share my ethernet connection over wifi to my laptop
[06:33] <Slart> Guest24567: I'm not sure if there is a special "share internet connection through wifi"-app in ubuntu but you might get away with doing the regular internet connection sharing and just specifying the wifi-connection as LAN (and that is almost the same on most linux-systems)
[06:33] <Slart> !ics | Guest24567
[06:33] <moza> slart : it gives me some "device already handled" with more details, i think i will try to find out more about the error message i got on the localhost:631 page, seems more informative.
[06:33] <Slart> moza: yup.. I would go with that as well
[06:33] <Guest24567> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/ShareEthernetConnectionThroughWireless
[06:34] <Slart> KidBeta: imagemagick is great for that kind of stuff
[06:34] <Guest24567> That article is what I am trying to do, I have been trying to follow that article.
[06:34] <Guest24567>  http://pastebin.com/FY2Gpnjq I want you all to understand that I have read tons of pages on your site relating to this
[06:35] <Guest24567> I am using int because someone installed it for me
[06:35] <OpenSorce> Slart, funny thing about my issue... everything else is working... it's running the live usb, it's browsing the web, the screen is even putting a check or an X in "Connected to the Internet" on the preparing to install screen. I can exit out, restart it... no worries. Just sits there after I click next though
[06:35] <Jordan_U> Guest24567: This is your last warning. This channel does not support Mint. Please try Mint's support channels, ##linux, or other support options available for Mint.
[06:35] <sandeepr> on a 12.04 server, apt-get install glance fails due to hash mismatch error
[06:36] <KidBeta> Slart is it quick, the reason im asking is because im using OpenCV and SURF to do some logo recogition, but it takes a huge amount of time on large images so if scaling to a given size is faster i may as well :)
[06:36] <sandeepr> on another 12.04 system it works
[06:36] <sandeepr> so it seems specific to the server exhibiting the error
[06:36] <bray90820> is a live microSD card considered a live usb
[06:37] <Jordan_U> bray90820: As long as your boot firmware supports booting from it, they will act the same way.
[06:37] <OpenSorce> sandeepr, this may sound stupid but indulge me, is the date set correctly on that machine?
[06:37] <sandeepr> i have followed a few suggestions from internet - removing /var/lib/apt/lists, chaging the mirror in sources.list
[06:37] <bray90820> alright
[06:37] <tomreyn> moza: which printer do you have there?
[06:37] <moza> tomreyn, it's an epson stylus sx200
[06:37] <Slart> KidBeta: I'm not sure if Imagemagick is considered quick compared to other stuff.. but it's widely used for back end image processing.. just resizing an image is a pretty straight forward process so I suggest you give it a try and see if it works for you
[06:38] <bray90820> actually my question is in this guide is a live microSD the save thing as a live usb
[06:38] <bray90820> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[06:38] <KidBeta> Slart awesome thanks
[06:38] <bray90820> ping me i will be right back
[06:38] <rajumoh> sandeepr: have to tried cleaning the cache $apt-get clean ?
[06:38] <sandeepr> OpenSorce, yes the date is set correctly
[06:38] <tomreyn> moza:when you run "lsusb", what does it come out as (post the single line which identifies the printer only)
[06:38] <sandeepr> rajumoh, yes the apt-get autoclean, clean commands have been attempted
[06:39] <Slart> OpenSorce: if I were you I would try to run the installer from a terminal.. perhaps it prints out some kind of error message.. I have no idea how to run the installer though
[06:39] <OpenSorce> Slart, neither do I... very odd I think
[06:39] <moza> tomreyn, It gives the following : "Bus 001 Device 009: ID 04b8:0849 Seiko Epson Corp. Stylus SX205"
[06:40] <moza> but is recognized as sx200 in cups pages.
[06:40] <molqr> hey nice ppl! forgot my password on 10.04 ... but can't reset it as i don't get the grub menu at start up.....  tried holding the Shift key pressed to make the menu appear but i don't get it... what now?
[06:40]  * bray90820 is back
[06:41] <Jordan_U> molqr: Boot from a LiveCD/USB, chroot in, and run "passwd your_username_here" from within the chroot.
[06:42] <molqr> Jordan_U: ok... will try it.. thanks
[06:44] <tomreyn> moza: try this: install printer-driver-escpr, uninstall *gutenprint*
[06:44] <moza> tomreyn, ok, i'll try.
[06:44] <rajumoh> sandeepr: have u tried all the commands in the list below ? try these, then do a update finally and then try installing your software. if all that does not work can u post a pastebin for apt-get errors http://askubuntu.com/questions/103834/how-do-i-force-configuration-of-partially-installed-packages
[06:44] <helmut_> hi
[06:45] <tomreyn> moza: the first step may already suffice actually. also run this afterwards: sudo service cups restart
[06:45] <moza> ok
[06:45] <moza> i'm more confortable doing only the first step :)
[06:46] <moza> Just in case i ever have to use a non-epson printer ^^
[06:46] <tomreyn> moza: ok, that's fine. check the web interface again after all these steps
[06:47] <wwwdotcom> Hello there. How do i make changes to gdm permanent. Everytime i logon i have to manually change my screen resolution to 1440x900 using xrandr command. I have added this line "xrandr --output VGA1 --mode 1440x900" in /etc/gdm/Init/Default file and restrated my system.
[06:47] <wwwdotcom> But that doesn't seem to work.
[06:47] <tomreyn> !hi | helmut_
[06:47] <wwwdotcom> My system again starts in default 1024x768 resolution.
[06:49] <OpenSorce> Slart, nope no output in terminal
[06:49] <tomreyn> wwwdotcom: do you have a file /etc/X11/xorg.conf ? if so, can you üpst it to a pastebin, please?
[06:49] <moza> tomreyn, :) It works (at least it's printing something when i now ask the test page) The printer-driver-escpr also updated a bunch of things.
[06:50] <moza> tomreyn, thank you a lot!
[06:50] <tomreyn> moza: hmm did your system upgrade not complete sucessfully maybe?
[06:50] <moza> It might be the case.
[06:50] <moza> tomreyn, I don't know if there is a way to upgrade a posteriori?
[06:51] <OpenSorce> Slart, however deleting the entire contents and repartitioning worked
[06:51] <Slart> OpenSorce: not really sure what to try then
[06:51] <tomreyn> moza: try this (but don't confirm when asked): sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:51] <tomreyn> moza: the question would be, does this list a lot of files to install?
[06:52] <moza> tomreyn, ok, i'll try and come back to you.
[06:52] <tomreyn> good luck
[06:52] <moza> tomreyn, ok, no, not at all, 0 (things) to update/install
[06:54] <moza> tomreyn, but i had a weird upgrade. I run out of space mid-upgrade and nearly lost access to my raid array. Then i manage to salvage things, make some more space and finish the thing. Then first thing i did was to use gnome classic. In all that i understand there might be specific problems that went unnoticed.
[06:54] <tomreyn> moza: and "apt-cache policy" lists only references to "12.04" or "precise"?
[06:54] <wwwdotcom> tomreyn: No. I don't think so. There's no xorg.conf file in X11 directory. I think it's gdm setup. Here are the contents of /etc/gdm/Init/Default file, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5591781/
[06:55] <wwwdotcom> Line 13 has been added by me later.
[06:55] <moza> tomreyn, yes it does, only 12.04 or precise.
[06:56] <moza> (in passing, thanks for teaching me basic checking commands tomreyn )
[06:56] <tomreyn> moza: then i guess you can be fine. you could reinstall all packages to be sure.
[06:57] <moza> tomreyn, i'll try to think about that if i encounter more packages with weird behaviour. Maybe i should for rhythmbox for example, it crashed on my lately.
[06:57] <moza> thanks again!
[06:58] <sandeepr> rajumoh, followed all the commands from the link. the apt-get install glance continues to fail due to hash sum mismatch
[06:59] <sandeepr> here is the output in pastebin - http://paste.ubuntu.com/5591788/
[06:59] <tomreyn> well that's normal behavior for rythmbox :)
[06:59] <tomreyn> wwwdotcom: which ubuntu version are you on? did you edit the PATH variable in this script?
[07:01] <rajumoh> sandeepr: dude first result from google http://askubuntu.com/questions/41605/trouble-downloading-updates-due-to-hash-sum-mismatch-error
[07:02] <sandeepr> rajumoh, this is what i mentioned initially. i have followed this.
[07:02] <wwwdotcom> Ubuntu 11.04. And no i didn't.
[07:02] <tomreyn> wwwdotcom: actually i think your script shoudl work, is this screen really connected to VGA-1? run "xrandr" without arguments to verify.
[07:02] <rajumoh> sandeepr: :-p ok. missed that
[07:02] <moza> tomreyn, oups, that was too fast of me. It seems my yellow prints below what it really should.
[07:03] <tomreyn> !11.04 | wwwdotcom
[07:03] <moza> tomreyn, i also only have yellow and blue, but that is kind of expected, i might have run out of ink.
[07:04] <tomreyn> moza: hmm, that's hard to tell for me now. you *might* be able to inspect the volume of ink left in system settings -> printer
[07:04] <wwwdotcom> tomreyn, yes it is connected. xrandr output ==>  VGA1 connected 1440x900+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 367mm x 230mm
[07:05] <wwwdotcom> Yes i will.
[07:05] <tomreyn> wwwdotcom: "VGA1" or "VGA-1"?
[07:05] <moza> tomreyn, i'll look in the evening, i have to go for now, but maybe i need to align the ink heads or something, i seem to remember it was an option.
[07:05] <wwwdotcom> VGA1
[07:05] <tomreyn> moza: alright, good luck
[07:06] <moza> thanks have a nice day/night!
[07:07] <tomreyn> wwwdotcom: dunno then. but you really need to update. your system has collected known security vulnerabilities since october last year
[07:07] <usr13> !upgrade | wwwdotcom
[07:07] <tomreyn> chances are upgrading will fix that, too
[07:07] <wwwdotcom> tomreyn, i am seeing this guide: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-change-display-resolution-settings-using-xrandr.html     Here two lines are also added. Maybe i should try that?
[07:08] <yashdgr8est> hello , i have trouble installing a driver for my raedon graphic card can somebody help
[07:08] <yashdgr8est> using 12.04
[07:08] <wwwdotcom> Yes, i am too thinking of upgrade. But for the time being i am on gprs connection. Once i get connected to broadband, i will surely upgrade.
[07:08] <tomreyn> wwwdotcom: i won't support an unsupported system. if the issue persists after upgrading, you're welcome to come by and ask again.
[07:09] <wwwdotcom> Thanks
[07:09] <yashdgr8est> help?
[07:10] <wilee-nilee> !details | yashdgr8est For the channel
[07:11] <usr13> yashdgr8est: lspci |grep -i vga  #Tell us what that says.
[07:12] <rajumoh> sandeepr: yeah the post says that its a know issue and says maybe waiting for a few hours or days and reinstalling might sove the problem . if its eating into your installation time and you want to get the installation complete then downloading the source and installing from source should not be a bad idea
[07:12] <yashdgr8est> I have trouble with installing driver for ati radeon graphic card I am running 12.04 lts .when i installing it from officila website i boot into low-graphics mode
[07:12] <sandeepr> rajumoh, i have started to install os on another system
[07:12] <yashdgr8est> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[07:12] <yashdgr8est> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Seymour [Radeon HD 6400M Series
[07:12] <usr13> yashdgr8est: jockey-gtk
[07:12] <Biomechd> how do i find out my video driver? in the "details" under "system settings", linux tells me the driver is unknown.
[07:13] <sandeepr> i'll leave this system as it is as i need to understand how to sort it
[07:13] <sandeepr> i have left it over the weekend in that state
[07:13] <scottrb> i really like the windows 7 feature of hitting the windows key and typing to launch a program right away. any package in ubuntu that enables that?
[07:13] <usr13> yashdgr8est: What did you install?  (What file did you download?)
[07:14] <wilee-nilee> scottrb, the windows key in the unity desktop brings up the dash search
[07:14] <usr13> yashdgr8est: jockey-gtk  should do it for you.
[07:14] <yashdgr8est> amd-driver-installer-catalyst-13.1-linux-x86.x86_64
[07:14] <scottrb> wilee-nilee: oh, sorry, i'm using xubuntu
[07:14] <rajumoh> sandeepr: if the issue is related to the post we just mentioned then chances are glance would not install on the new server either.
[07:15] <wilee-nilee> scottrb, There is synapse it is a key prompt to bring up a small gu to input apps to launce.
[07:15] <wilee-nilee> gui*
[07:17] <tomreyn> Biomechd:  lspci -knvv | fgrep -A13 'VGA '
[07:18] <sandeepr> rajumoh, as i mentioned earlier it got installed on another system. so it seems specific to the system exhibting the problem
[07:18] <yashdgr8est> ...?
[07:18] <scottrb> wilee-nilee, this looks like it will work fine. thanks. :)
[07:18] <tomreyn> !pastebin | Biomechd Please use this for reporting the output of this command:
[07:18] <wilee-nilee> scottrb, Cool,
[07:19] <rajumoh> sandeepr: ok
[07:19] <Biomechd> tomreyn: does it matter if i use pastebin or pasteall? i have a tendency to use pasteall since it supports text, images, and .blend files all at the same time.
[07:19] <usr13> yashdgr8est: lsmod |pastebinit  #Send resulting URL
[07:20] <usr13> yashdgr8est: Where did you download amd-driver-installer-catalyst-13.1-linux-x86.x86_64 from?
[07:20] <tomreyn> Biomechd: i'm fine with either
[07:20] <yashdgr8est> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5591837/
[07:21] <yashdgr8est> usr13, i downloaded it from the amd website
[07:21] <Biomechd> tomreyn: http://www.pasteall.org/41597
[07:22] <tomreyn> Biomechd: so: Kernel driver in use: i915
[07:22] <tomreyn> Biomechd: you can verify this with 'lsmod', it should also list i915, the intel graphics driver.
[07:23] <Biomechd> tomreyn: so what proprietary driver would you suggest, if one's available? i'm not a hardware person.
[07:23] <yashdgr8est> usr13, ??
[07:24] <tomreyn> Biomechd: most likely there's none available for this video chip. and that's good as intel develops their main driver as an open source one.
[07:24] <tomreyn> Biomechd: which doesn't mean it performs well, but that's due to the hardmare primarily, not due to the driver.
[07:26] <histo> Biomechd: or you can lspci -k will show driver in use
[07:26] <yashdgr8est> help??
[07:26] <usr13> yashdgr8est: amd-driver-installer-catalyst-13.2-beta6-linux-x86.x86_64  is listed as "Beta"
[07:27] <tomreyn> Biomechd: run this to make applications show your hardware properly: sudo update-pciids
[07:27] <yashdgr8est> usr13, i didnt download the beta one
[07:27] <usr13> yashdgr8est: And I do not see the amd-driver-installer-catalyst-13.1-linux-x86.x86_64 file.
[07:27] <tomreyn> Biomechd: also, which ubuntu version do you have there?
[07:27] <Biomechd> 12.10
[07:28] <usr13> yashdgr8est: I suggest using jockey-gtk
[07:28] <yashdgr8est> i tried it installed fglrx
[07:29] <tomreyn> Biomechd: hmm i'm surprised it doesn't know about this device then. anyways, after running that update, it should.
[07:29] <presonic> how would i completely disable my touchpad? (using external mouse)
[07:29] <yashdgr8est> usr13,http://paste.ubuntu.com/5591845/
[07:30] <yashdgr8est> usr13, but still my fglrxinfo gives a badrequest
[07:30] <presonic> nm sry, power of google
[07:30] <Biomechd> tomreyn: it's still saying unknown
[07:31] <histo> yashdgr8est: installation of the drivers from amd's or ati's site is not officially supported. You can use the repo ones
[07:31] <usr13> yashdgr8est: How did it work before installing the driver you have now?
[07:31] <histo> !ati | yashdgr8est
[07:31] <histo> !ati | yashdgr8est
[07:31] <histo> !ati > yashdgr8est
[07:32] <yashdgr8est> usr13, its same as before
[07:32] <usr13> yashdgr8est: Are you fully updated?  (Were you fully updated before attempting to install this driver software?)
[07:32] <yashdgr8est> yes
[07:33] <jnhghy> I'm trying to install qt on ubuntu 12.04, I've downloaded the .run file from http://qt-project.org/downloads I've runded chmod u+x on the .run file but when I try to run it with ./file.run I get syntax error: ")" unexpected is this error from the downloaded file?(I doubt it....) any advice?
[07:33] <tomreyn> Biomechd: hmm right my 12.10 system doesn't have it either after updating the database. i wonder why... anyways, it should already be working  fine, is it not?
[07:33] <yashdgr8est> usr13 ^
[07:33] <histo> jnhghy: any reason you aren't installing from repo?
[07:33] <jnhghy> on repo i found qt 4 and on qt-project 5.0.2
[07:33] <usr13> yashdgr8est: And it booted to Low graphics mode after initial install, (and after updates were applied)?
[07:34] <histo> jnhghy: do you need 5.0.2?
[07:34] <jnhghy> histo: good question, don't I?
[07:34] <usr13> yashdgr8est: Are you using VGA cable?
[07:34] <yashdgr8est> usr13 after initial insall , i had to revert to old graphics configurations to return in the normal mode
[07:34] <yashdgr8est> usr13,no
[07:34] <histo> jnhghy: if 4.0 isn't broken why are you trying to install something from source
[07:35] <Biomechd> tomreyn: somebody at #blender thinks my blender's crashing because of a video-driver-related issue.
[07:35] <usr13> yashdgr8est: HDMI?
[07:35] <yashdgr8est> usr13, no
[07:35] <yashdgr8est> usr13, laptop display
[07:35] <usr13> yashdgr8est: Oh, this is a laptop?  What is the make and model?
[07:36] <jnhghy> histo: I was thinking at the docs that should be more accurate on the current version then on an older one, also tutorials on the net should cover the current version then an older one, what to you think? should I go with qt4?
[07:36] <usr13> yashdgr8est: And you have 12.04 64bit, right?
[07:37] <yashdgr8est> usr13 32bit
[07:38] <histo> jnhghy: It depends on what you need. but if you don't need the latest and greatest version with bugs yet to be found. Then I would stick with a known working version.
[07:38] <usr13> yashdgr8est: What is the make and model of your laptop?
[07:38] <jnhghy> histo: good point, thanks for your time, I'll get qt4 from repo
[07:38] <yashdgr8est> hp pavilion g6
[07:39] <yashdgr8est> usr13, ^
[07:39] <tomreyn> Biomechd: 12.10 intel drivers aren't perfect, and your specific video chip _may_ not be too well supported by intel (an assumption based on the fact that it's hardware ID is missing on the universal hardware ID list which you just updated) .
[07:39] <tomreyn> Biomechd: something you can tr is updates drivers, or you may just wait 2 more days and upgrade to raring.
[07:40] <tomreyn> tr -> try
[07:41] <usr13> yashdgr8est: The default driver should work for you.  Not sure what the problem is.
[07:41] <yashdgr8est> it doesnt
[07:42] <usr13> yashdgr8est: I think I just installed on a laptop just like that one a few weeks ago and the display worked ok.  I made no changes.
[07:42] <yashdgr8est> the output of fglrxinfo  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5591874/
[07:42] <yashdgr8est> the display works but no games work usr13
[07:42] <Biomechd> tomreyn: what's raring?
[07:43] <tomreyn> !raring | Biomechd
[07:43] <usr13> yashdgr8est: xrandr |pastebinit
[07:43] <Biomechd> ah, alrighty then.
[07:44] <yashdgr8est> usr13,http://paste.ubuntu.com/5591881/
[07:44] <usr13> yashdgr8est: I suggest you uninstall  amd-driver-installer-catalyst-13.1-linux-x86.x86_64 and start over.
[07:44] <yashdgr8est> usr13, but then my laptop boots into low graphic mode
[07:45] <usr13> yashdgr8est: Looks like your screen size is 1368x768  Right?
[07:46] <yashdgr8est> yup,usr13
[07:46] <Don_L> hi, I have a .sql (http://pastebin.com/PsT8Pp7x) but it just hangs, how can I see what's wrong?
[07:47] <usr13> yashdgr8est: If you have a problem with the software you downloaded from amd, I guess you'll have to take it up with them.
[07:48] <yashdgr8est> but the fglrx driver doesnt work properly too ,usr13.I am unable to play supertuxcart
[07:48] <usr13> yashdgr8est: We can help you with Ubuntu but, this software is not supported here.
[07:48] <usr13> yashdgr8est: Should be radeon
[07:48] <yashdgr8est> but then tell me how to switch to intel  graphics usr13
[07:49] <vadimkolchev> hi all. Can I load music to my ipad 4 using ubuntu somehow?
[07:50] <Biomechd> vadimkolchev: theoretically, it should just be as simple as plugging your ipad into your computer via a usb-to-mobile cable and just dragging the files to the ipad as you would with external storage.
[07:50] <usr13> yashdgr8est: I don't know.  (And the fact that it shows to have two video chips in a laptop is not something I've dealt with before).
[07:50] <cfhowlett> !ipod|vadimkolchev, not easily ... and likely not without jailbreak but see IPOD
[07:51] <usr13> yashdgr8est: I installed Ubuntu 12.04 on a HP g6 a few weeks ago and everything seems to have worked just fine.  (I did not, however, try to play supertuxcart, so...)
[07:52] <usr13> yashdgr8est: I wish it were here now, I'd look at it, but my grand daughter has it.
[07:53] <usr13> yashdgr8est: Was a nice system though and I did not have any problems with it, (other than being a bit confused by the BIOS settings for the f-keys).
[07:54] <usr13> Once I figured out there *was* a setting for it and set it back to default, I was ok.
[07:55] <usr13> I installed cheese and she seems to be able to record videos just fine and all that, so it seems to be working just fine, as far as the gpu ...
[07:56] <tomreyn> yashdgr8est: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI explains most, to uninstall an ati dirver you downloaded from their website, you'd use: sudo amdconfig --uninstall
[07:57] <usr13> yashdgr8est: Looks like tomreyn has found the information you need.
[07:58] <tomreyn> yashdgr8est: i don't know which hardware you have there exactly, but it can be a good idea to try the default open source "radeon" driver before you experiment with the proprietary one again. this open source driber is discussed at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[07:59] <tomreyn> and yes you can run games with that
[07:59] <usr13> tomreyn: 6400m
[07:59] <Don_L> hi, I have a .sql (http://pastebin.com/PsT8Pp7x) but it just hangs, how can I see what's wrong?
[07:59] <tomreyn> the proprietary one, if it works, will usually provide better performance, though
[08:00] <tomreyn> Don_L: files don't hang. maybe you did something with the file and that hung?
[08:00] <usr13> 02:13 < yashdgr8est> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[08:00] <usr13> 02:13 < yashdgr8est> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Seymour [Radeon HD 6400M Series
[08:00] <tomreyn> thanks usr13
[08:00] <tomreyn> i suspect he's gone, anyways
[08:01] <Biomechd> tomreyn: so my laptop just froze for a few minutes, and when it un-froze, my touchpad would only scroll and i had to rely on the little pressure button thing in the middle of my keyboard to move the cursor around. how can i reactivate the touchpad's cursor-moving ability?
[08:01] <Don_L> tomreyn: well when I run the @file.sql it hangs that's what I'm saying
[08:01] <usr13> tomreyn: yashdgr8est appears to be still on the channel.
[08:01] <tomreyn> usr13: AFK is what i meant
[08:02] <tomreyn> and no loner :)
[08:02] <tomreyn> s/loner/longer/
[08:03] <tomreyn> Biomechd: umm, unless you changed anything this shouldn't happen. try whether it's fixed after a reboot, and inspect you /var/log/syslog*
[08:03] <tomreyn> *youR
[08:03] <opiciak> hi everyone, i've installed a program from source on my ubuntu server and i would like to run it as a service (so that its "always" running), does anyone know of a good guide on how to do that? any help appreciated. thanks.
[08:04] <tomreyn> Don_L: ask in #mysql, please, this is too detailed for here.
[08:04] <Biomechd> tomreyn: i was hoping reboots wouldn't be the only solution. my laptop does this from time to time.
[08:05] <tomreyn> Biomechd: sounds like a hardware issue. if you're lucky it's not but actually a software issue, in which case you should find information on it in syslog.
[08:05] <auronandace> Biomechd: if you know the touchpads driver you could modprobe it
[08:06] <auronandace> Biomechd: lsmod will list modules that are currently loaded
[08:07] <tomreyn> Biomechd: also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad#Troubleshooting
[08:11] <Biomechd> tomreyn: the only possible thing that might help on that link is the "sudo trackpad" command, which apparently isn't a valid command.
[08:14] <tomreyn> Biomechd: wll synclient might help and it could be related to hibernating.
[08:17] <Biomechd> tomreyn: i found a "TouchPadOff = 2" in that output
[08:18] <starbuck> hello, how can i search through previous commadsn in terminal? like i write the first 2 or three letters of that command and it shows all previous commands which startet with those latter?
[08:19] <Sarlaccpit> starbuck: history | grep commnd
[08:20] <k1l_> starbuck: press ctrl+r
[08:20] <tomreyn> or press ctrl-r, then type the first letters of that command again
[08:21] <tomreyn> and again ctrl-r to jump to the one before that
[08:21] <starbuck> thanks Sarlaccpit and k1l_
[08:21] <starbuck> and tomreyn :)
[08:22] <tomreyn> phew :-)
[08:28] <Jpmh> starbuck: set -o vi then you can actually use simple edit commands like <esc>k for previous, /what for searcgh etc - vi editing commmands
[08:31] <reghina> hi
[08:31] <reghina> I need to upgrade firefox and I do not know how. Can anybody help me?
[08:33] <Ben64> reghina: run the update manager?
[08:34] <reghina> Where do I find it Ben64?
[08:34] <reghina> I'm not very familiar with Ubuntu
[08:35] <Ben64> or just open a terminal and do "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade"
[08:35] <reghina> ok thank you
[08:35] <Ben64> that upgrades every package you have
[08:35] <Ben64> it should do it automatically on a regular basis
[08:36] <cfhowlett> reghina, suggest you also run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:37] <reghina> It seems that I cannot put my password on the terminal...it does not appear when I digit
[08:38] <reghina> reghina@reghina-XPS-M1330:~$ sudo apt-get update;
[08:38] <cfhowlett> reghina, password is NOT displayed when typing it in ... security measure
[08:38] <reghina> [sudo] password for reghina:
[08:38] <reghina> laSorry, try again.
[08:38] <reghina> [sudo] password for reghina:
[08:38] <reghina> lalaSorry, try again.
[08:38] <reghina> [sudo] password for reghina:
[08:38] <FloodBot1> reghina: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:38] <reghina> lalala
[08:41] <reghina> it's very strange what's happening with my password. I know is not suppose to be displayed but you must see the little star symbol when you write it...right?
[08:41] <koskoz> hi, I've added a program, PHPStorm, to /usr/local
[08:42] <dituna> how to connect chat forum
[08:42] <koskoz> I'd like to add it to the launcher and the dash, how can I do it?
[08:42] <koskoz> Inside PHPStorm's folder there's a bin directory with a .sh launching the program
[08:44] <reghina> When I digit my pass in the Ubuntu terminal it is not considered and I'm asked again for it! What should i do?
[08:44] <reghina> Can somebody give me a hard?
[08:44] <tomreyn> reghina: no you dont, as this would still indicate the lendth of it to someone watching your screen (but not your fingers on the keyboard) over your shoulder.
[08:44] <cfhowlett> !password|reghina
[08:45] <tomreyn> reghina: i was responding to " you must see the little star symbol when you write it...right?"
[08:45] <reghina> Ok Tomreyn ..thank you
[08:45] <reghina> Why is asking me for the pass again then?
[08:45] <tomreyn> reghina: you probably typed it incorrectly.
[08:45] <cfhowlett> reghina, because you're not entering the correct password.
[08:46] <tomreyn> reghina: check whether caps lock is on
[08:46] <reghina> ok...I did not considered myself so stupid...but you never know!
[08:46] <reghina> Ok ..thank you..l'll check
[08:51] <bray90820> Anyone ever installed ubuntu on a windows 8 tablet
[08:53] <DJones> bray90820: You might get better suggestions for that if ask in #ubuntu-touch
[08:53] <cfhowlett> !touch|bray90820,
[08:53] <BlackWeb> If I want to block a Ip Address from accessing my network Do I just add    ALL: IPAddress to hosts.deny
[08:53] <reghina> I was digiting the wrong pass! Thank you .....feeling stupid now but risolved a huge problem!
[08:53] <g105b> What's a good codec to record the entire screen with? I'm using ffmpeg, recording to mp4, and the filesize is growing 100mb per minute :/
[08:54] <bray90820> i was looking to install the desktop version
[08:54] <lotuspsychje> bray90820: if the tablets supports normal Os installing you can give it a try
[08:55] <bray90820> i just can't seem to boot from any other disc but the internal one
[08:55] <lotuspsychje> bray90820: but if it needs touchscreen support, desktop version wont work
[08:55] <lotuspsychje> bray90820: you will need the ubuntu touch like cfhowlett says
[08:55] <bray90820> no
[08:55] <bray90820> i can use the desktop version
[08:56] <tomreyn> g105b: that would be prior to encoding, i guess
[08:56] <DJones> bray90820: Tablets are pretty specialised, I'd say ask in there to see if anybody has managed to get anything installed onto a windows tablet, they're likely to be able to give some pointers
[08:56] <bray90820> but i am using the desktop version
[08:56] <bray90820> why would i ask about a desktop os in a tablet os channel
[08:57] <bray90820> i already have this guide
[08:57] <bray90820> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[08:57] <bray90820> i just cant seem to turn off fast or quick boot
[08:58] <g105b> Can anyone recommend video editing software for screencasts? I am editing a screencast and want to be able to speed certain parts of the video while not affecting the audio track.
[08:58] <tomreyn> BlackWeb: use iptables instead.
[08:59] <BlackWeb> alright so will that work though ALL: IPaddress     in /etc/hosts.deny
[08:59] <lotuspsychje> bray90820: so try to install dekstop version on your device, see what happens
[09:00] <BlackWeb> mainly with Iptables there reset if system is rebooted
[09:00] <bray90820> well i cant boot from the live disk because i cant seem to disable quick or fast boot
[09:00] <cfhowlett> bray90820 obviously, Touch is optimized for pads and desktop is not.  Your device/your choice.  good luck with all that.  I suspect more users will attempt and succeed with the touch version than the desktop OS
[09:00] <andy> hello
[09:01] <cfhowlett> andy, greetings
[09:01] <bray90820> well there should be a way to disable fast and quick boot
[09:01] <andy> nice to meet you
[09:01] <lotuspsychje> bray90820: try ##hardware to findout bios tricks for your device
[09:02] <bray90820> alright
[09:02] <bray90820> thank you
[09:04] <tomreyn> BlackWeb: you can use iptables-save/restore. an entry in /etc/hosts.deny will not keep someone out of you *network*, just reject access to the system it is configured on.
[09:05] <subha_> Hi, need some help for installing Ubuntu on Mac
[09:05] <subha_> anyone there?
[09:05] <lotuspsychje> !ask | subha_
[09:06] <tomreyn> 1676 people and bots including you are here
[09:06] <ekiwok> !patience
[09:06] <subha_> thanks, ok how do i install ubuntu on mac
[09:06] <Ben64> !mac
[09:06] <subha_> i have reffit installed
[09:07] <ekiwok> subha_ do you want install it instead of OS X or be able to boot both OS ?
[09:07] <subha_> no both
[09:09] <subha_> ekiwok: i want to have both mac and ubuntu
[09:10] <ekiwok> subha_ have you considered using VirtualMachine instead of full installation? It is usually better solution
[09:12] <subha_> ekiwok i want to install it completely, virtual machines slows down the laptop and the curser movement is really irritating, i want a proper installation
[09:13] <ekiwok> subha_ ok here is nice step by step - http://lifehacker.com/5934942/how-to-dual-boot-linux-on-your-mac-and-take-back-your-powerhouse-apple-hardware
[09:15] <Gumby`> hi all.  I am trying to create a .deb from a ppa source. I am getting the error "dpkg-shlibdeps: error: no dependency information found for /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 (used by debian/libmyth-0.26-0/usr/lib/libmythtv-0.26.so.0.26.0)"  I do have a /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 symlink that points to  libGL.so.310.44. Does anyone have any suggestions?
[09:15] <Gumby`> Does anyone have any suggestions ?
[09:17] <subha_> thanks ekiwok, but there is some problem with the CD drive, pls tell me how to use a flash drive for installation
[09:17] <histo> !find libGL.so.1 | Gumby`
[09:18] <Gumby`> histo: thanks, the file does exist (although it is a symlink)
[09:18] <ekiwok> subha_ if you want to make bootable ubuntu pendrive the easiest way to do this is use UnetBootin free programa available for OS X, linux and Windows
[09:18] <Gumby`> and I already have nvidia-current installed, the libGL.so.1 that the bot returned isnt located at /usr/lib either
[09:18] <histo> bray90820: what kind of tablet are you working with?
[09:19] <bray90820> Asus VivoTab
[09:19] <bray90820> the ntel version
[09:19] <histo> bray90820: any idea what processor it's using?
[09:19] <bray90820> Intel atom
[09:20] <histo> bray90820: yeah there isn't linux support for that z2760 cpu at the moment. I have the same issue with the a tablet I have.
[09:21] <subha_> ekiwok, thanks man, let me download UnetBootin and do that
[09:21] <ekiwok> subha_ also there is usefull trick for all systems with bash dd if=path/to/image.iso of/dev/disk0
[09:21] <histo> bray90820: http://techedunews.com/intel-atom-processor-no-linux-support-for-tablet-processor/  here's a news story there are tons of them on the web.
[09:21] <histo> !usb | subha_
[09:21] <bray90820> histo: well actually that's not even my problem
[09:21] <bray90820> i cant disable secure boot or fast boot in the bios
[09:21] <subha_> hoi, i don't want a live CD, i want a permanent installation, will UnetBootin help for that?
[09:21] <ekiwok> subha_ it copies bit by bit all dada from input file to disk, you may use it to fast creating bootable pendrive but be carrefull
[09:22] <histo> bray90820: In my bios I was able to disable secure boot but there was no option for fast boot
[09:22] <subha_> permanent installation on my HDD
[09:22] <bray90820> well ehen i try to disable it it just reinables when i exit
[09:22] <bray90820> and yes i did save it
[09:22] <hXm> hi, i have an issue with sync, it works until find some error and stop working without notice, looks like done the job but copied nothing
[09:22] <histo> bray90820: I should correct in my firmware not bios. I couldn't disable UEFI either. It should be a UEFI only 32bit chip if you have the same setup as me.
[09:22] <bray90820> and by the way it is supported now
[09:22] <bray90820> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[09:23] <histo> bray90820: That CPU isnt' supported by the kernel. I can get grub to load but not linux
[09:23] <subha_> ekiwok I want to install Ubuntu on my hard disk using a external hard disk
[09:23] <ekiwok> subha_ you shoud use unetbootin to create on your flash drive bootable copy of install DVD/CD and then use it as CD/DVD to install Ubuntu
[09:23] <bray90820> ok
[09:23] <ekiwok> subha_ ok so there is no difference between flash drive and hard disk
[09:23] <bray90820> histo: i can't even get that far
[09:23] <histo> bray90820: It's not an issue with UEFI... It's an issue with the linux kernel and the atom z2760 cpu. Also ubuntu I don't believe has 32bit efi images on their installation media
[09:24] <bray90820> i can't get as far as you
[09:24] <bray90820> i am using the x64 bit
[09:24] <ekiwok> subha_ I dont have much experience with OS X, are you able to run UnetBootin as root on OS X to avoid this error?
[09:24] <histo> bray90820: You could if you tried what I did. There is a debian wheezy 32bit uefi iso around. I pulled the grub efi from that and booted.
[09:24] <histo> bray90820: That's a 32bit only cpu btw
[09:25] <bray90820> how did you get grub to load
[09:26] <histo> bray90820: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/efi-development/upload4/  Grub efi will load from these iso but any linux kernel you try will hang. Intel is allegedly going to support linux on this CPU at some point.
[09:26] <subha_> ekiwok my cd/dvd drive is not working and i want to use a ext hard disk for installation
[09:27] <bray90820> histo: how did you get the iso to load
[09:27] <histo> bray90820: I'm sure there is some kernel mail list you can post to about the issue of having no cpu support for the Atom z2760 cpu
[09:27] <bray90820> histo: right now i am not talking about a kernal problem
[09:27] <bray90820> i am talking about being able to boot a live disk
[09:29] <bray90820> because i can't even get a boot menu to select what to boot
[09:29] <histo3> bray90820: it won't work trust me....
[09:29] <raziel> CIAO
[09:29] <bray90820> but i can still try
[09:29] <histo3> bray90820: on my device holding I can add a efi selectino using the firmware via a filesystem. Or I can hold the down volume key and get a menu
[09:30] <bray90820> i can get into the uefi by holding down the volume button
[09:30] <histo3> bray90820: You cannot boot a linux kernel on it trust me. I wasted weeks of time before I realized what the issue was.  Once you overcome the fact that no distros even have 32bit efi images for grub. Then you will realize the kernel won't work with that CPU.
[09:30] <bray90820> but then where do i go from there
[09:31] <bray90820> histo3: i am aware it won't work
[09:31] <histo3> bray90820: you bug a kernel dev or intel to write support for that CPU, and notify me when it's present in the kernel so I can run linux on my tablet as well.
[09:31] <bray90820> but i just want to know how to boot from a disk on the thing
[09:32] <bray90820> histo3: i just want to know how to boot from a disk
[09:32] <histo3> bray90820: Hook up a usb keyboard and go into the firmware/bios. Or hold the volume up key to get in the firmware/bios may work.
[09:32] <bray90820> yes then what do i do
[09:32] <histo3> bray90820: You can't boot form a disk... Only if it has a GPT partion table and a 32bit efi file
[09:33] <histo3> bray90820: with a fat32 formatted efi partition
[09:33] <bray90820> what do you mean
[09:33] <histo3> bray90820: IT DOESN"T WORK
[09:33] <bray90820> what doesn't work
[09:34] <histo3> bray90820: Booting anything other than windows or stupid 32bit efi applicaitons that will get you no where. ATM the device only runs Windows
[09:34] <bray90820> but you were able to boot something atleast
[09:34] <bray90820> how did you do it
[09:35] <bray90820> even if it did hang
[09:35] <histo3> bray90820: I didn't boot anything just used a efi application
[09:35] <bray90820> lets pretend ubuntu worked
[09:35] <bray90820> how would i boot it
[09:36] <histo3> bray90820: You would boot off of usb with 32bit efi grub to load the kernel.
[09:36] <bray90820> but how
[09:36] <cholby> I dated a guy named Ubuntu once.
[09:36] <cholby> He would "play the bongos" on my ass.
[09:37] <cholby> fag
[09:37] <histo3> bray90820: if you want to see grub or efi shell load partition a thumbdrive with gdisk or cgdisk and create an efi partition. then format that partition to fat32 and put your grub32 bit file or 32bit efi shell file there. It will then be in the boot menu
[09:37] <bray90820> histo3: why wouldn't this work
[09:37] <bray90820> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[09:38] <histo3> bray90820: Because you have a 32bit cpu and ubuntu doesn't have efi support for anything 32bit at the moment
[09:38] <histo3> bray90820: also the linux kernel doesn't support your CPU
[09:38] <bray90820> i have a 64bit cpu
[09:38] <histo3> bray90820: please take 5 seconds and read this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atom_(system_on_chip)#Operating_system_support_on_Cloverview
[09:39] <histo3> bray90820: No you don't have a 64bit cpu
[09:39] <bray90820> yes i do
[09:39] <histo3> bray90820: Intel has announced that it won't provide support for Linux on Cloverview family of Atom systems-on-a-chip.[49][50] This announcement has caused strong negative reaction from open source proponents.[51] A few days later Intel issued a statement saying that it has “plans for another version of this platform directed at Linux/Android"[51][52]
[09:40] <histo3> bray90820: boot to windows 8 and take a look at your system. You will notice it's 32bit version of Windows 8
[09:43] <bray90820> histo3: sorry if i am sounding mean
[09:44] <histo3> bray90820: Your not... I'm just trying to save you frustration.
[09:44] <bray90820> and i am aware that linux is not supported on it
[09:44] <bray90820> but i want to know how to boot a compatible os
[09:44] <gustav> Since when does Intel support Linux on anything?
[09:44] <histo3> bray90820: I have to go i'll be back on in about an hour if you want to discuss further.  For some reading you can see people struggling with other tablets that have your CPU like the Dell Latitude 10 or the acer iconia w500 I believe.
[09:45] <bray90820> i will be in bed
[09:45] <bray90820> but thanks anyways
[09:45] <histo3> gustav: servers
[09:45] <bray90820> but yes i do have an x86 processor
[09:45] <gustav> histo3: But isn't it mostly a co-incidence that Linux runs on it? Like it was in the beginning.
[09:45] <histo3> bray90820: You can boot and load 32bit efi shell . Its on sourceforge somewhere. but you can only boot it from usb or plopping it in your current efi partition.
[09:46] <histo3> gustav: No idea I just know that this CPU will not run a linux kernel.
[09:46] <histo3> gustav: or anything other than Windblows
[09:46] <gustav> histo3: Lazy hackers.
[09:46] <histo3> gustav: Who is?
[09:47] <snuggl> or it includes some media-industry BS that they cant distribute
[09:47] <gustav> histo3: Kernel developers. Linux runs on Macbook which isn't supposed to run anything other than Mac OS X.
[09:47] <snuggl> so they release a new version without it
[09:47] <snuggl> wouldnt be the first time
[09:48] <histo3> gustav: I idon't think they are lazy they do lots of work. As more people have this CPU someone smarter than I will be able to write code to make it work. And then I'd assume some of the distros would have 32bit efi grub files due to the demand.
[09:48] <gustav> histo3: I have no idea why it doesn't work.
[09:49] <histo3> gustav: Probably some new instruction set or something goofy that hangs the kernel
[09:49] <gustav> Words like "demand" are just stop words.
[09:49] <histo3> Either way I have to go be back in an hour.
[09:49] <gustav> histo3: Bye.
[09:49] <gustav> TTTTY just set my computer on fire.
[09:51] <andy> how about gnome-menus?
[10:00] <theodorDiaconu> I'm on Mac OS and I am trying to make an Ubuntu usb disk for Windows, I cannot make it boot
[10:02] <theodorDiaconu> I am now installing CD boot helper ... maybe that will solve anything
[10:03] <cfhowlett> theodorDiaconu, WAY too complicated.  switch machines.
[10:04] <theodorDiaconu> cfhowlett: what do you mean ?
[10:04] <cfhowlett> theodorDiaconu, unetbootin will make a bootable usb
[10:05] <theodorDiaconu> cfhowlett: yes, I have tried it, and it simply doesn't boot on the windows machine
[10:05] <cfhowlett> theodorDiaconu, thus my suggestion that you switch machines.  download the ISO.  copy it to a windows machine with unetbootin installed and make the usb
[10:08] <ben1253> anybody know working sis 671 vga driver?
[10:08] <Robbery1> ben1253
[10:08] <Robbery1> where you from?
[10:08] <theodorDiaconu> cfhowlett: I will try
[10:09] <ben1253> Robberyl:why?
[10:09] <cfhowlett> theodorDiaconu, best of luck
[10:18] <hachre> hi guys
[10:20] <hachre> ive set up hibernation for my laptop cause suspend doesnt work and it worked fine for weeks, however for a few days it has stopped even trying to resume... a hibernate is essentially like a shutdown now except that it creates the image on shutdown but it doesnt try to boot it on reboot, is there a location where i can set up which swap device to use or something? i have looked at the logs and except pm-suspend saying that hibernate was a strik
[10:20] <Robbery1> hi hachre
[10:20] <Robbery1> yo
[10:20] <Robbery1> sup
[10:21] <Otie> Can I have some help with ubuntu (dual boot issue)
[10:21] <hachre> otie: !ask
[10:21] <ekiwok_> !ask
[10:21] <hachre> thanks
[10:21] <hachre> ;D
[10:22] <Otie> !ask
[10:23] <Otie> In installed Ubuntu 12.10 64-bit yesterday, on a 20GB Ext4 partition (tried Ext2 as well) and when I start my computer it boots straight to Windows 7, how can I choose what to boot to?
[10:25] <hachre> Otie: if everything went well with the installation of the bootloader a menu should come up with a 5 second or so timer
[10:25] <hachre> Otie: did you get any error messages during installation?
[10:25] <Otie> No, I didn't. I wasn't connected to the internet during installation and I didn't hear anything about bootloader
[10:25] <hachre> Otie: did you partition manually?
[10:26] <Otie> Yes I did.
[10:26] <hachre> Otie: one ext4 partition 20gb and thats it?
[10:26] <hachre> for ubuntu that is
[10:26] <Otie> Yes, that's all. The only other thing is a 900GB NTFS one for windows
[10:29] <Otie> I installed ubuntu studio 12.10 late last year and I got to choose what to boot after I turned on my PC
[10:29] <cfhowlett> !grub|Otie, try reinstalling grub
[10:30] <Otie> Thanks, I'll check that out
[10:32] <g105b> How can I stream a video file as if it was my webcam?
[10:32] <Otie> Alright, I'm going to try repairing it, if I don't come back it's probably working for me :P
[10:33] <cfhowlett> Otie, best of luck
[10:33] <lxgr> w
[10:37] <hachre> I found the solution to my own problem: /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume has a wrong UUID to my swap space, thats why it failed
[10:37] <hachre> changing it there + update-initramfs -u fixed it
[10:38] <foobArrr> printing problem: my printers work for a few pages, then stop printing. the print queue window shows "Printing ...", the kde printer settings panel shows "in use", but nothing happens anymore. after reboot they work again, but only for a few pages. same behavior with two different printers (Brother HL-2030 and Oki B4100), same behavior on a fresh user account. 12.10 64bit
[10:40] <Jiver> gosh darn it!
[10:41] <Jiver> what's going down on this side y'all?
[10:41] <foobArrr> when I connect the printers to a virtualbox virtual machine, printing from the vm works fine.
[10:42] <cfhowlett> hachre, good detective work
[10:43] <Jiver> y'all run a print server on a VM?
[10:45] <Jiver> what's going down, Kevin? y'all good?
[10:45] <hachre> thanks, cfhowlett ;)
[10:47] <Kevin_> I just
[10:48] <Kevin_> Want to nick my name but I don't know it :)
[10:48] <Jiver> Say what?
[10:48] <DJones> Kevin_: /nick newname
[10:48] <Jiver> Y'alls name is Kevin dude!
[10:49] <hachre> haha
[10:49] <Jiver> y'll want to be called "newname"?
[10:49] <Jiver> maaan, that crazy!
[10:49] <Kevin_> How?
[10:53] <wizard_A> i installed qemu, qemu-kvm but when i try running an image through cmd it shows qemu command not found
[10:58] <hachre> the command is qemu-system-i386, qemu-system-x86_64
[11:03] <g105b> I want to pipe a video file through a webcam stream, so I can play a video into Google+ Hangout. Can someone advice on how to do this?
[11:04] <wizard_A> so suppose the cmd qemu -hda tor-test -cdrom tails-i386-0.13.iso -m 192 -boot d tthe qemu should be replaced by qemu-system-i386 r8??
[11:05] <hachre> wizard_A: probably, if you want a 32bit guest
[11:05] <hachre> wizard_A: I'd be using libvirt-bin honestly to manage the vms
[11:07] <wizard_A> yes
[11:07] <wizard_A> can you give me an example for libvirt-bin
[11:08] <hachre> wizard_A: after setting it up starting a vm would be 'virsh start vmname'
[11:08] <hachre> https://help.ubuntu.com/12.10/serverguide/virtualization.html
[11:09] <Duncan_> Hi everyone
[11:09] <disguy> hello
[11:09] <hachre> lol
[11:09] <hachre> disguy: you scared him off
[11:10] <wizard_A> ls
[11:10] <disguy> anyone know of any youtube UPload scripts that work? everything seems outdated..
[11:12] <wizard_A> thanks hachre that really worked
[11:12] <hachre> :) great
[11:19] <silv3r_m00n> how to open the gnome desktop preferences dialog from commandline ?
[11:22] <g105b> I dunno why this is much easier in Windows...
[11:33] <WeThePeople> i just reinstalled 12.04 with reformat, i am getting internal errors, about jockey-gtk and gnome-settings-daemon, any idea what this might be?
[11:35] <izx> I would like to manage all ubuntu systems centrally? What would be the best way to acheive this??
[11:36] <histo> WeThePeople: memtest
[11:36] <histo> izx: for free or using canonicals stuff?
[11:37] <izx> histo: It depends upon the features.. how abt free??
[11:38] <histo> izx: landscape is the paid canonical application which is integrated with ubuntu.
[11:38] <tMH> ppl, tell me please, what file contains default _text_ logon screen , likme - Ubuntu 12.10 servername tty1 etc?
[11:39] <Duncan_> l
[11:40] <histo> !zentyal | izx
[11:40] <tMH> like
[11:44] <pii3> hey
[11:44] <pii3> im on 12.04
[11:44] <pii3> i cannot apt-get install libcompress-zlib-perl ?
[11:44] <pii3> does the name changed?
[11:46] <wizard_A> pii3: try pressing tab after typing libcom you'll get a list of what is availabe
[11:46] <WeThePeople> histo, so return to grub menu and run a memtest?
[11:47] <wizard_A> also try pressing tab after libcompress- u'll get a smaller list
[11:49] <tricky> hi guys
[11:49] <lufi> hi . how can i set the default route?
[11:49] <lufi> sudo ip route add default via 10.0.2.2
[11:49] <lufi> ? i am using vbox btw
[11:49] <tricky> anyone know the test command in if-then statement?
[11:50] <antonio[lithuani> Nope, not programmer
[11:50] <tricky> :X
[11:51] <Kevin`> http://pastebin.com/E59XQDWr - why hasn't this bug been fixed :/
[11:51] <antonio[lithuani> * g o a t s e x * g o a t s e x * g o a t s e x *
[11:51] <antonio[lithuani> g                                               g
[11:51] <antonio[lithuani> o /     \             \            /    \       o
[11:51] <antonio[lithuani> a|       |             \          |      |      a
[11:51] <antonio[lithuani> t|       `.             |         |       :     t
[11:51] <FloodBot1> antonio[lithuani: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:51] <antonio[lithuani> s`        |             |        \|       |     s
[11:51] <lufi> what the hell is antonio[lithuani pasting :O
[11:52] <gustav> lufi: Don't read it our your eyes will pop out.
[11:54] <Kevin`> also, is there a way of preventing the boot messages past the initrd from all being invisible since they show on a tty that doesn't exist instead of the console?
[11:56] <hachre> Kevin`: why are you using grub legacy??
[11:57] <hachre> Kevin`: to display boot messages you need to remove quiet and splash parameters in /etc/default/grub and run update-grub
[11:57] <Kevin`> hachre: because there's no pv-grub for grub2
[11:57] <Kevin`> # cat /proc/cmdline
[11:57] <Kevin`> root=/dev/xvda ro
[11:57] <tricky> #!/bin/bash
[11:57] <tricky> # testing -n parameter
[11:57] <tricky> if [ -n $val1 ]
[11:57] <tricky> then
[11:57] <tricky> echo "val1 is not empty"
[11:57] <FloodBot1> tricky: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:57] <Kevin`> no quiet or splash present
[11:57] <tricky> else
[11:57] <antonio[lithuani> Sveiki visi
[11:58] <hachre> your question is xen related, try #ubuntu-server
[11:58] <NK> hi there
[11:59] <tricky> hmm, any one the 'test' command in if-then statement?
[11:59] <hachre> what?
[11:59] <NK> do you know if it's possible to open a coredump with apport so that it can generate a report from it as if it was catching the crash by itself ? ?
[11:59] <tricky> anyone know the 'test' command in if-then statement?
[11:59] <NK> (and how is it possible to do that)
[12:00] <antonio[lithuani> hi
[12:00] <wwwdotcom> Hello there. I want a terminal command to be run at startup every time ubuntu starts. How can it be done?
[12:03] <contrapunctus> Guys, anyone tried running a Logitech Gamepad F310 on a Ubuntu system of late? I DDG'd for it, looks like people have had problems, but all such posts are pretty old...wondering if things have changed.
[12:05] <gr33n7007h> wwwdotcom, what terminal command
[12:05] <histo> !patience | tricky
[12:05] <histo> wwwdotcom: /etc/rc.local
[12:05] <lufi> !patience | histo
[12:05] <lufi> oh. :D
[12:07] <tricky> anyone knows the test command?
[12:08] <wwwdotcom> gr33n7007h: This one:  xrandr --output VGA1 --mode 1440x900
[12:09] <iamwhoiam> tricky: i think you should go to #bash
[12:09] <tricky> ty
[12:10] <tricky> i will go now :D
[12:15] <silv3r_m00n> where can i get a list of the gtk themes that were installed by default in ubuntu 11.10 ?
[12:20] <nugroho> ubuntu,debian,fedora,redhat,suse and other variant of linux but ubuntu looks betters than other
[12:22] <nugroho> JPL749250
[12:22] <nugroho> APB800779
[12:24] <anu123> how to shrink the ubuntu drive which is installed on windows7 ultimate
[12:24] <dejanfc> good day
[12:24] <dejanfc> anyone here got experience with bind9 + isc-dhcp-server and ddns updates?
[12:27] <anu123> has anyone know how to shrink the ubuntu drive which is installed on windows7 ultimate
[12:27] <betrayd> !anyone | dejanfc
[12:28] <betrayd> anu123: ^ too
[12:28] <betrayd> use gparted anu123 unless its lvm
[12:28] <dejanfc> fair enough :)
[12:28] <betrayd> spit it out man
[12:29] <dejanfc> I've got the ddns working, but I have a whole bunch of clients that share the hostname (thin clients) which I'd like to omit from dynamic updates
[12:29] <dejanfc> is there a way to filter that out?
[12:29] <Syria>  Hi, Is there any program equivalent to innsider please? Wifi signal analyzer?
[12:30] <Arrick> hey all, I am trying to enable a 2nd nic on my ubuntu server 12.04 install, and when I run "ifconfig -a | grep eth" I can see that I have both eth0 (Which is up) and eth1, which is not up... I tried running "ifup eth1" and it said not found... how do I enable this device?
[12:31] <betrayd> Syria: i use wavemon but only for 1 not to compare several
[12:31] <Pici> Syria: kismet perhaps?
[12:32] <wizard_A> i'm running ubuntu using wubi, and within ubuntu i'm using qemu which in turn is running a  different os, will this affect my hard disk in any way
[12:32] <Syria> Pici: I think that kismet should be used by advance users.
[12:32] <betrayd> Arrick: does ifconfig even show it
[12:32] <Arrick> no
[12:32] <Arrick> thats what I am trying to figure out.
[12:33] <Arrick> I know it works, because when I blew away windows server 2008 R2 I was using that one for the management.
[12:33] <betrayd> inwindows though?
[12:33] <Arrick> But I remember asking me what port I wanted to be primary as well when I isntalled.
[12:33] <Arrick> yes, in windows.
[12:34] <wizard_A> i'm running ubuntu using wubi, and within ubuntu i'm using qemu which in turn is running a  different os, will this affect my hard disk in any way
[12:35] <betrayd> Arrick: perhaps a driver is needed, tried another flavor of linux live CD
[12:35] <betrayd> ?
[12:35] <betrayd> Arrick: where it was picked up...
[12:36] <Arrick> nah, I just figured it out... had to add eth1 into /etc/network/interfaces, thanks though.
[12:36] <onboard> szfc
[12:36] <betrayd> kool Arrick
[12:37] <onboard> any one know  start Xorg  and  xterm complete,why cursor show X
[12:37] <igorek2030> hello
[12:38] <betrayd> onboard: your startup file needs '&' at the end of commands otherwise it gets stuck on first command
[12:39] <mojtaba> Hi, I have put some content in the /var/www, but when I want to open it in the browser, it says you do not have access to it. Does anybody know what should I do?
[12:40] <onboard> betrayd:like "xtrerm &"
[12:40] <betrayd> onboard: yes! but usually the last one won't have it
[12:41] <betrayd> onboard: but that would depend on window manager
[12:41] <mojtaba> Hi, I have put some content in the /var/www, but when I want to open it in the browser, it says you do not have access to it. Does anybody know what should I do?
[12:41] <betrayd> yours might behave diferently onboard
[12:41] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[12:41] <silv3r_m00n> is there a good tool to customize gtk 2 themes on ubuntu 12.10 ?
[12:42] <mojtaba> Please help
[12:43] <betrayd> flexx in flexx out
[12:43] <contrapunctus> mojtbaba: go to terminal, sudo <program you want to open it with> <path to content>
[12:43] <onboard> betrayd: only start xterm , cursor in black zone will show X ,I really want know "X"  cursor  how to change?
[12:44] <Gnea> mojtaba: make sure that apache is setup correctly
[12:44] <mojtaba> Gnea: How can I make sure?
[12:44] <Gnea> mojtaba: well, is it installed?
[12:44] <betrayd> onboard: there are X-cursor themes in gnome-look.org
[12:44] <mojtaba> Gnea: Yes
[12:44] <Gnea> mojtaba: and what did you name the file?
[12:45] <mojtaba> Gnea:  upgrade.php
[12:45] <Gnea> mojtaba: mkay, what about permissions? are they set correctly?
[12:46] <mojtaba> Gnea: I did not set it
[12:46] <mojtaba> Gnea: Actually I am pretty new to linux. How can I do that?
[12:46] <Gnea> mojtaba: take a look to see what they are at now, then correct them if needed
[12:47] <Gnea> mojtaba: well the chmod command will be what you'll use in the terminal, but you'll need some direction...
[12:47] <onboard> betrayd:you main my mouse cursor theme no profile?
[12:47] <Gnea> !chmod | mojtaba
[12:47] <onboard> betrayd:I have mouse theme in linux
[12:48] <betrayd> onboard: might be in appearance, i haven't changed mine
[12:48] <betrayd> usually its each user has his/her own preference
[12:49] <betrayd> best to leave it that way (good practice)
[12:49] <Gnea> mojtaba: getting the file to have permissions like this would suffice:  -rw-r--r--
[12:49] <betrayd> root ought to step in only when you break it
[12:49] <Pici> mojtaba: What url are you trying to open in your browser? are you running a webserver?
[12:50] <lord_rob> Hi ! I'm using Debian Sid and I have just installed apt-add-repository to install a ppa. This doesn't seems to work with debian as it expects wheezy and not "any ubuntu distro name" :/ Is there a way to get the ppa anyway ?
[12:50] <mojtaba> Pici: yes
[12:50] <Gnea> Pici: s/he's doing it on localhost, afaik
[12:50] <Pici> Gnea: are you sure?
[12:50] <mojtaba> Gnea: you are right
[12:50] <Gnea> Pici: I am
[12:50] <Pici> lord_rob: no. PPAs are made for Ubuntu.
[12:51] <lord_rob> if I get source debs, can't I recompile them Pici ?
[12:51] <betrayd> and their dependencies
[12:52] <lord_rob> sure
[12:52] <Pici> lord_rob: possibly, but keep in mind that there may be Ubuntu specific patches being applied.
[12:52] <wizard_A> i'm running ubuntu using wubi, and within ubuntu i'm using qemu which in turn is running a  different os, will this affect my hard disk in any way
[12:53] <lord_rob> yes but this is not a big package
[12:53] <subthalamus> is this implemented? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MultiarchSpec
[12:55] <mojtaba> Gnea: Yes I guess that will suffice
[12:58] <nugroho> ubuntu linux live cd portable on desktop good in mac platform
[13:00] <Pici> subthalamus: yes.
[13:04] <subthalamus> Pici: could you possibly point me to some hints/instructions that leverage it to convert a 32bit install to 64bit?
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> subthalamus: reinstall
[13:05] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> hi BluesKaj
[13:06] <BluesKaj> Hi ActionParsnip
[13:07] <subthalamus> ActionParsnip: ratatouille
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> subthalamus: reinstall and then restore user data from backup
[13:11] <zeru> how could I get linux manual in pdf
[13:12] <gustav> zeru: Write it in LaTeX and run pdflatex on the file.
[13:12] <nugroho> xpdf in linux ubuntu looks great and fast but acrobat more official
[13:14] <lufi> what is wrong? grep -lr -e 'href="/' *.html | xargs sed -i 's/href="\//href="\/html_dir\//g'
[13:14] <lufi> it says sed: no input files
[13:14] <Toph2> Zerga,,, google ubuntu manual pdf
[13:15] <Toph2> zeru,,, rather
[13:16] <mdg> Hey, what are your favorite GTK centered sites for development info ?
[13:17] <nugroho> latest ubuntu desktop use gnome and kde but icewm look older
[13:17] <mdg> i am at a computer
[13:19] <Pici> subthalamus: I'm afraid I'm not sure that is easily possible.
[13:19] <nugroho> string manipulation program like sed but use notepad also available in ubuntu
[13:20] <talpur> good evening comunity...need help to the error for make..mentioned in paste http://paste.ubuntu.com/5592520/
[13:20] <nugroho> linuz torvald like linux ubuntu or linus torvald
[13:20] <awc> Which is the channel for 13.04 issues?
[13:21] <nugroho> follower not other than that
[13:21] <Pici> awc: #ubuntu+1
[13:21] <awc> Pici thanks!
[13:21] <Pici> nugroho: Do you have an ubuntu support question?
[13:21] <talpur> sorry see the following link and help me to reslove http://paste.ubuntu.com/5592527/
[13:22] <nugroho> linux ubuntu live cd or dvd latest release has good appearance
[13:24] <nugroho> gnome or kde work better in ubuntu linux
[13:24] <nugroho> console application like sed or gtk also available in ubuntu linux
[13:25] <nugroho> supported with mysql or postgresql ubuntu work best with other linux server
[13:25] <talpur> hi member plz help me to resolve following error gcc error unrecognized option -parallel. http://paste.ubuntu.com/5592527/
[13:26] <nugroho> ubuntu linux development package gcc compiler wrong source code or not working code use comment
[13:27] <nugroho> gcc or icc same but ubuntu linux still in graphical window
[13:30] <nugroho> ubuntu linux faster and easy to install in ibm pc desktop or notebook
[13:30] <raffy99> ciao
[13:31] <raffy99> !list
[13:31] <BluesKaj> !it | raffy99
[13:33] <raffy99> ! list
[13:37] <awc> What can I type in the terminal to restart unity?
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> awc: unity --replace      maybe
[13:38] <gr33n7007h> awc, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[13:39] <awc> ActionParsnip "unity -- program not installed"
[13:39] <k1l_> awc: sudo lightdm restart
[13:40] <awc> gr33n7007h "/etc/init.d/gdm: command not found
[13:40] <awc> "
[13:40] <k1l_> awc: but this will close all running programs
[13:40] <awc> k1l_ , thanks for the heads up
[13:40] <auronandace> k1l_: shouldn't that be: sudo service lightdm restart?
[13:41] <gr33n7007h> awc, sudo /etc/init.d/lightdm restart
[13:42] <k1l_> auronandace: well. that was a mixup. either sudo restart lightdm or sudo service lightdm restart
[13:42] <gr33n7007h> gdm for gnome 2
[13:42] <genii-around> lightdm is natiove upstart and not sysvinit. eg: start/stop/whatever lightdm
[13:42] <k1l_> gr33n7007h: upstart si the new init
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> genii-around: you can use gdm in gnome3 )
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> :)
[13:43] <gr33n7007h> ok
[13:43] <Yonney> hi all, is compiz working nicely with the latest ubuntu LTS?
[13:43] <auronandace> Yonney: it is used by default in unity
[13:44] <Yonney> auronandace: with access to "all" those various compiz-addons that is part of Lucid Lynx?
[13:45] <auronandace> Yonney: 12.04 is precise, not lucid
[13:45] <Yonney> auronandace: I meant the previous LTS, Lucid.
[13:45] <auronandace> Yonney: desktop support for 10.04 ends this month
[13:45] <Yonney> auronandace: (meaning: that the same variety of compiz-addons is possible also on Pangolin?)
[13:46] <awc> auronandace, thanks!
[13:46] <auronandace> Yonney: many compiz addons can breake unity functionality
[13:47] <talpur> hi members plz help to resolve error of make...http://paste.ubuntu.com/5592527/
[13:47] <Yonney> auronandace: I am considering if I should reinstall with 10.04.4 for another year, or go with 12.04, but I strongly dislike the new unity, I want to stick with gnome and compiz
[13:48] <MartynKeigherFN> hey have an ftp server 'hosting' Q. my main domain (www.mydomain.com) is hosted with hosting company but i am setting up a home server in a subdomain (lab.mydomain.com). in the DNS, ftp is pointed to mydomain.com, but i ALSO need ftp access to my sub-domain. how can i achieve this?
[13:48] <auronandace> Yonney: 10.04 desktop support ends very shortly, gnome2 support ends with it
[13:48] <Yonney> I have also checked out the new Mint, but dont like it either
[13:48] <MartynKeigherFN> my home server is on ubuntu...i know thats irrleveant, but dont know where-else to ask. ;)
[13:48] <Yonney> auronandace: but security updates will go on for both of them for another year, even if support stops?
[13:49] <auronandace> Yonney: i was pleasantly surprised with unity in 12.04
[13:49] <auronandace> Yonney: no, support continues only for server
[13:50] <Yonney> auronandace: desktopwise, I dont like 12.04 - or at least not if I cannot easily use the old style navigation in addition, with just a click or shortkey
[13:50] <snuggl> whats the diffrence?
[13:50] <Yonney> auronandace: but more importantly, is all the important additions I use in compiz, will not change if I cannot bring such features along
[13:50] <snuggl> the menu is at left instead of bottom, else its just a bit more graphical
[13:51] <auronandace> Yonney: using some features of compiz can break unity, you could try compiz with xfce instead if you want
[13:51] <Yonney> I want to place single-click shortcut icons on sidebars that can be hidden or shown with their own defaults, left, right, top and bottom
[13:52] <awc> I am having an issue with 13.04, but #ubuntu+1 is seemingly empty. Perhaps someone here could help? I installed today's updates, and it seems to have broken unity or compiz. The status bar at the top of the desktop and the dash/home bar on the left side of my screen are missing. running compiz --replace in the terminal is ineffective, and "sudo service lightdm restart" to restart unity results in a black screen with a flashing orange "_"
[13:52] <Yonney> I notice that several people have problems with some of this, and I dont want to loose the _very_ stable environment I have right now.
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> Yonney: lxpanel, gnome panel and so on can do that, so can avant window navigatr and docky etc
[13:54] <Yonney> auronandace: I would choose the gnome-desktop variant, perhaps even Mint with gnome desktop instead of ubuntu 12.04, but I am leaning towards using Lucid for another year first
[13:55] <auronandace> Yonney: desktop support for 10.04 ends THIS MONTH
[13:55] <Yonney> ActionParsnip: yes, but this would be a working environment, which I have no time to use for testing out what works or not, just want to have another clean install
[13:55] <JustSighDudes> When is 13.04 coming out?
[13:55] <awc> JustSighDudes the Beta is available now, but I believe at the end of the month
[13:56] <Yonney> auronandace: what exactly does that mean, that the "support" ends now, it will still continue to push security updates until next year, or am I wrong?
[13:56] <BluesKaj> JustSighDudes, apr 25
[13:56] <awc> JustSighDudes given my current issues with the beta I wouldn't install it until the 25th
[13:56] <JustSighDudes> awc: Aw :(
[13:56] <auronandace> Yonney: support ends this month, i can't really make it more clearer
[13:56] <auronandace> Yonney: desktop packages will no longer get any updates whatsoever
[13:57] <auronandace> Yonney: from next month only server is supported in 10.04
[13:57] <k1l_> Yonney: no, there will be no security updates after this month for the desktop packages.
[13:58] <Yonney> k1l_: ok, so manybe what I thought I have seen regarding such information was only about the server version, hmm
[13:58] <emperor> español
[13:59] <Guest9982> #ubuntu-es
[13:59] <k1l_> Yonney: yes, server packages will keep support. but this doesnt mean you can run a safe desktop on this. so consider an upgrade if you are running a desktop
[13:59] <prappl93> I just recently installed kernel 3.6.3 on Ubuntu 12.10, and my Terminals on Ctrl-Alt-F1 through F6 are not really showing anything. Is there a way to fix this?
[13:59] <_emperor_> join ubuntu-es
[13:59] <_emperor_> join #ubuntu-es
[14:00] <awc> _emperor_ /join #ubuntu-es
[14:00] <theadmin> prappl93: Unofficial kernels are unsupported, the latest provided on Quantal is 3.5.x
[14:00] <betrayd> prappl93: picking the prior kernel in grub brings them back though?
[14:00] <prappl93> theadmin: thanks. Is there a way to roll-back to 3.5.x easily?
[14:01] <foobArrr> printing problem: my printers work for a few pages, then stop printing. the print queue window shows "Printing ...", the kde printer settings panel shows "in use", but nothing happens anymore. after reboot they work again, but only for a few pages. same behavior with two different printers (Brother HL-2030 and Oki B4100), same behavior on a fresh user account. 12.10 64bit
[14:01] <prappl93> betrayd: I have not tried that yet, might just do a kernel rollback
[14:01] <MartynKeigherFN> I have an ftp server 'hosting' Q -->  My main domain (www.mydomain.com) is hosted with a hosting company and i have setup a home server in a subdomain of it (lab.mydomain.com). In the DNS, there is a CNAME record for FTP and its pointed to mydomain.com, but i "ALSO" need ftp access to my sub-domain. how can i achieve this? I know i can "change" FTP to the IP of my home server, but i dont want to affect connectivity to the FTP that is at my host 
[14:01] <theadmin> prappl93: sudo apt-get install linux-image-generic will give you the latest official kernel, unless you installed your new one from a third-party repo (if that's the case, disable that repo)
[14:02] <prappl93> theadmin: I downloaded the new one from kernel.ubuntu.com and manually installed it via dpkg
[14:02] <theadmin> prappl93: Eh...
[14:02] <theadmin> prappl93: Anyway, get rid of linux-image-3.6.3-generic or whatever and install linux-image-generic
[14:02] <KyeRussell> cname records do not affect what services are available on your domain MartynKeigherFN
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> prappl93: you can hold SHIFT at boot and select the older kernel.
[14:03] <KyeRussell> they merely point certain names (e.g. blah.yourdomain.com) to servers
[14:03] <MartynKeigherFN> so if add a cname record of 'ftp' to lab.mydomain.com it should just work
[14:03] <MartynKeigherFN> ??
[14:03] <KyeRussell> in saying that, you should still be able to connect to the ftp server on lab.yourdomain.com, assuming that you have an ftp server running
[14:04] <KyeRussell> no, you misunderstand how dns works
[14:04] <MartynKeigherFN> i'll try it. didnt think it would be that easy!
[14:04] <KyeRussell> CNAME records point IP addresses to domain names
[14:04] <MartynKeigherFN> i do have ftp setup
[14:04] <KyeRussell> e.g. the ip address 11.22.33.44 -> something.mydomain.com
[14:04] <KyeRussell> now every service taht you access by connecting to 11.22.33.44 is now available on something.mydomain.com
[14:04] <theadmin> KyeRussell: That's an A record
[14:04] <KyeRussell> it's pretty much an alias
[14:05] <KyeRussell> oh my bad
[14:05] <KyeRussell> okay
[14:05] <KyeRussell> somehost.something.com -> something.mydomain.com
[14:05] <KyeRussell> better
[14:05] <MartynKeigherFN> the mainsite is hosting in location A and my subdomain is in location B, different IP's. there is already a cname for FTP that points to my main domain
[14:06] <KyeRussell> what are you using to manage your dns records
[14:06] <_emperor_> Hello friends, good morning. I have a problem with my kubuntu 12.04, yesterday the Muon system updates had asked me to add new updates, so I agreed to install, after I finish asked me to restart the computer but the power down as it was too late to turn the audio pc and it did not work, try to see if I was missing some codec or the volume was low but nothing, any ideas?
[14:06] <MartynKeigherFN> cpanel
[14:06] <KyeRussell> I'm sure that's doing some weird stuff.
[14:06] <KyeRussell> does your home IP address change?
[14:06] <talpur> please guide me mebers for erro returned eit code 2 error with make
[14:06] <MartynKeigherFN> nope. its a static
[14:07] <KyeRussell> then you should set up an A record
[14:07] <KyeRussell> with lab.whatever.com pointing at your home connection's IP address
[14:08] <MartynKeigherFN> thats done already
[14:08] <KyeRussell> then you don't need to do anything else
[14:08] <MartynKeigherFN> oh?
[14:08] <KyeRussell> just use your ftp client and connect to lab.whatever.com
[14:08] <_emperor_> KyeRussell
[14:08] <_emperor_> Hello friends, good morning. I have a problem with my kubuntu 12.04, yesterday the Muon system updates had asked me to add new updates, so I agreed to install, after I finish asked me to restart the computer but the power down as it was too late to turn the audio pc and it did not work, try to see if I was missing some codec or the volume was low but nothing, any ideas?
[14:08] <MartynKeigherFN> ah....ok! gotchya! that makes sense. i jyust figured id have to edit something.
[14:08] <KyeRussell> I don't use Ubuntu desktop, can't help, sorry.
[14:08] <MartynKeigherFN> ok, well cool!
[14:09] <KyeRussell> nope MartynKeigherFN, no matter what service you run, as long as it's accessible via the ip address, it's accessible via lab.whatever.com
[14:09] <talpur> helo members help to resolve gcc error unrecognized option '-no-prec-dive'
[14:09] <MartynKeigherFN> thanks man
[14:09] <KyeRussell> no problem
[14:09] <KyeRussell> talpur: what are you running to get that error
[14:10] <nashant> Alright guys. What sort of speed should I get via SCP? I'm only getting 1.5MB/s at the mo
[14:10] <KyeRussell> depends on the connection speed nashant
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> _emperor_: try:  killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse*
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> nashant: how fast is your web connectin?
[14:10] <talpur> KyeRussell: SPEC benchmarks
[14:10] <MartynKeigherFN> ok, next Q Kye... when i FTP to my ftp server i cant edit files. i hace added my account in the visduo sudoers file but still no luck?? can u tell me how i can achieve this? thanks
[14:10] <KyeRussell> it'll be capped at either the upload bandwidth of the uploading box, or the download bandwidth of the downloading box, whichever is lower
[14:11] <MartynKeigherFN> this is my last question! :)
[14:11] <KyeRussell> sudo hshouldn't have anything to do with your ftp server
[14:11] <KyeRussell> shouldn't*
[14:11] <MartynKeigherFN> i was told it would! :(
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> MartynKeigherFN: try connecting using SFTP, that wil pay attention to your permissions
[14:11] <Georgey> Hi, how can I restart my openjdk-6-JRe engine?
[14:11] <KyeRussell> i don't actaully have experience with ftp
[14:11] <KyeRussell> as in, ftp servers.
[14:11] <MartynKeigherFN> k
[14:11] <nashant> KyeRussell, ActionParsnip: wireless at 145M one end, 1G wired at the other
[14:11] <KyeRussell> it's somewhat considered an out-of-date technology.
[14:11] <KyeRussell> nashant: a bunch of small files perhaps?
[14:11] <MartynKeigherFN> for the benefit of the room.... im using vsftpd
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> nashant: 1G will be slow, so that data will travel at that spee
[14:11] <talpur> KyeRussell: plz see this http://paste.ubuntu.com/5592527/
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> *speed
[14:12] <_emperor_> ActionParsnip ... where, in KOnsole ??
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> _emperor_: yes
[14:12] <_emperor_> ok
[14:12] <nashant> KyeRussell: Nope. 2G+ files
[14:12] <KyeRussell> strange.
[14:12] <nashant> ActionParsnip: 1Gbit+ I meant. 1Gbit slow?
[14:12] <_emperor_> :(
[14:12] <KyeRussell> 1gbit isn't slow :/
[14:12] <_emperor_> no working
[14:13] <KyeRussell> is there some sort of file i/o bottleneck? slow hard drives, etc.
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> nashant: depends on its up speed, if it is over WWW then it will not go at 1Gbps down, it will be asymetric (hence ADSL), so you need to look at that speed
[14:13] <KyeRussell> ^
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> KyeRussell: depends on the needs
[14:13] <nashant> ActionParsnip: It's on lan
[14:13] <KyeRussell> so symmetric
[14:14] <_emperor_> I saw that command low internal audio volume, but I went up and replayed the audio level and nothing.
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> KyeRussell: as a backbone for a company, it'd be slow for a large number of users
[14:14] <talpur> members pla help to resolve error mention in this paste http://paste.ubuntu.com/5592527/
[14:14] <KyeRussell> i doubt nashant is dealing with that environment ;)
[14:14] <nashant> KyeRussell: Shouldn't be a problem with the drives. get dd disk to disk transfers of about 200M
[14:14] <_emperor_> I probably ruined any audio upgrade
[14:15] <KyeRussell> uh, any other network congestion?
[14:15] <nashant> nope, not quite. Just me, on my own
[14:15] <nashant> none
[14:15] <KyeRussell> not a slow switch
[14:15] <KyeRussell> or something
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> nashant: so your slowest speed is 145Mbps. What technology are you using to transfer the data?
[14:15] <nashant> Tried changing the encryption protocol to arcfour
[14:16] <nashant> scp
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> KyeRussell: but a sweeping statement of "1Gbps isn't slow" isn't always the case, is my point :)
[14:16] <KyeRussell> fair enough
[14:16] <betrayd> talpur: usually there are instructions to disable those options, they come with the config file. What are you trying to make anyway, it's not available in the repos
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> nashant: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/speeding-up-scp-872393/
[14:17] <betrayd> talpur: if you choose to 'edit' your paste all bets are off
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> nashant: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11985008/sending-a-large-file-with-scp-to-a-certain-server-stalls-at-exactly-2112-kb
[14:17] <KyeRussell> ah yes
[14:17] <KyeRussell> disabling encryption
[14:18] <KyeRussell> -c none should do it
[14:18] <talpur> betrayd: sorry I didn't get , I am trying to build spec benchmark,,so it gives the make error
[14:18] <betrayd> oh
[14:19] <nashant> so you reckon disable encryption completely?
[14:19] <nashant> I'll give it a go
[14:19] <KyeRussell> i mean if it's on a lan with just you
[14:19] <KyeRussell> it's up to you whether or not you feel unsafe about it
[14:19] <nashant> Yeah, it's not gonna be an issue
[14:19] <KyeRussell> then go ahead
[14:20] <stefan099> hi can enybody help with 13.04  after installation i have no touchpadmouse and no usbmouse only keyboard works?
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> stefan099: #ubuntu+1 for Raring support please
[14:21] <m__> hello
[14:21] <m__> :) i m milan
[14:28] <juann_atous> hi guys, anyone successfully connected to checkpoint VPN on ubuntu without using the SNX client?
[14:31] <redbluemangle> oi
[14:31] <jmnoz> I'm trying to configure keyboard shortcuts in xfce session on ubuntu but it doesn't seem to work. Has anyone got an idea why this could be?
[14:33] <betrayd> jmnoz: even after an X restart
[14:33] <redbluemangle> if I do  update-manager –d to upgrade from 12.10 now will it be any different than waiting for the full release?
[14:33] <jmnoz> betrayd: I wasn't aware that an X restart was required? Do you think it is?
[14:34] <betrayd> at least with some window managers
[14:34] <betrayd> am not sure with xfce jmnoz
[14:35] <awc> redbluemangle, you want to install 13.04?
[14:35] <redbluemangle> yeah, i they ahve frozen the RC
[14:35] <redbluemangle> so it is effectively in the release state no?
[14:36] <awc> redbluemangle given my current issues with 13.04 wait until the 25th
[14:36] <awc> but regardless you will need to use the daily build to install
[14:36] <redbluemangle> did it clobber your system?
[14:37] <betrayd> at least he's still able to chat ;-) with us
[14:37] <awc> there are a few of us in #ubuntu+1 with unity/compiz issues
[14:37] <redbluemangle> hmm
[14:37] <awc> I have to start all programs using terminal, and there are no menus
[14:38] <betrayd> awc hrdC0R3!!
[14:39] <awc> betrayd haha it's not pleasant. but I'm better off than some.
[14:39] <betrayd> oh that wasnt what you're after
[14:39] <awc> lol nope
[14:39] <betrayd> better than 'cursor on black screen'
[14:39] <awc> 'tis
[14:40] <awc> I had that yesterday, had to doa  fresh install
[14:40] <Beast> hi all
[14:40] <betrayd> awc: you remember what you did last
[14:40] <awc> yeah, I ran updates
[14:40] <betrayd> dang
[14:41] <awc> yep
[14:41] <betrayd> 'normal' stuff
[14:41] <awc> mhm
[14:41] <betrayd> i'd set up a new user
[14:41] <betrayd> awc so that I could try what i want to set up a working GUI
[14:41] <Beast> say , I've run out of roomon my root partition. I set it up with root and lvm on the rest. Can running gparted from the install CD automatically resize things?
[14:42] <betrayd> i don't think it can with lvm Beast
[14:42] <Beast> ah
[14:42] <wN> the newer versions of gparted support LVM me thinks
[14:42] <betrayd> yes!
[14:42] <Beast> so parted magic?
[14:42] <betrayd> get eh bleeding edge gparted
[14:42] <wN> ^
[14:42] <furkan> sa
[14:42] <awc> betrayd, I'm ok with screwing around on my own user, I've got a recent backup.
[14:43] <betrayd> awc all you need is a pint
[14:43] <juann_atous> anyone successfully connected to checkpoint vpn from ubuntu and secureid?
[14:43] <betrayd> awc =) if u catch my drift
[14:43] <BluesKaj> Beast, is parted magic an evolved partition magic , if so i'd stay away from it
[14:43] <awc> betrayd, if your paying ;)
[14:43] <betrayd> christ look at the time
[14:44] <betrayd>  =)
[14:44] <Beast> BluesKaj: not sure. Looking at their home page now
[14:45] <Beast> Parted Magic 2012_10_10
[14:45] <juann_atous> if so I'd appreciate some help - we don't have the ssl extender mod so can't use the snx client, as such need a hand doing ti manually if anyone has experience getting it working; i know it can be done as I did it 6 months ago but can't remember how
[14:45] <Beast> "This version of Parted Magic includes GParted 0.14.0 with LVM support"
[14:46] <BluesKaj> Beast, gparted live media , good
[14:47] <juann_atous> rather than install windows, id liek to keep my pimped, leet buntu workstation in an office of mac and windows users
[14:47] <Beast> BluesKaj: I'll give it a go once I get time. I wonder if it'll ajust lvm when I ajust root
[14:47] <juann_atous> but having no working vpn is killing me  :(  booohooo
[14:48] <bean> juann_atous: so what you're saying is you have some jank vpn that doesn't work with default ubuntu stuff
[14:48] <mAniAk-_-> running 13.04 and i'm having issues with remmina in fullscreen and multiple desktops. when i switch to the remmina desktop from another part of the unity panel disappears, and i can see the menu panels shadow or something on top of my remote desktop session
[14:48] <MonkeyDust> !13.04
[14:49] <juann_atous> bean, it does work as I have managed to connect before, and I was able to do it through one of the networkmanager tools, ive gone through each one, openswan, l2tp, vpnc, trying them all but seems none work
[14:49] <mAniAk-_-> ehe
[14:49] <juann_atous> it worked on vanila ubuntu, now im on xubuntu
[14:49] <juann_atous> i went back to vanil;la and couldnt get it working again
[14:50] <juann_atous> so am a bit lost   we use secureid, but thats not a problem, getting the handshakes working is, not sure how to debug it as I have no access to the checkpoint
[14:50] <dasmith91> clear
[14:50] <juann_atous> sure it is somethign really trivial, but last time I didnt have to write ipsec.conf files or anything
[14:50] <juann_atous> i just set u[p the details in the networkmanager gui and it connected fine
[14:51] <juann_atous> but i've no idea which one *should* work with checkpoint....
[14:51] <bean> well, make sure you have the correct sort of VPN selected in NM
[14:51] <juann_atous> bean: have you ever done it yourself?
[14:51] <bean> I work for a mac / linux shop, people have no trouble setting up vpn once i give them my documentation
[14:51] <dury> wil it be xscreensaver in 13.04?
[14:52] <bean> !13.04 | dury
[14:52] <dury> wil = will
[14:52] <BluesKaj> Beast, I haven't ever used any LVM options with gparted , so I'm not able to speculate.
[14:52] <juann_atous> bean: can you link me a dox for checkpoint ipsec ?
[14:52] <MonkeyDust> bean  a linux shop? sounds great
[14:52] <bean> juann_atous: we don't use ipsec, so I can't really help, your IT guy can or should be able to help you though
[14:52] <awc> dury, dunno, try google?
[14:52] <bean> MonkeyDust: yep! can run whatever OS you want :)
[14:53] <juann_atous> bean: we don't have an it guy and the checkpopint admin doesn't even knwo checkpoint lol
[14:53] <dury> awc: all right
[14:53] <juann_atous> and i cant get access tot he checkpoint - just hhoped there was some default options that shoudl be set.... meh
[14:54] <bean> juann_atous: http://www.elsotanillo.net/2011/09/how-to-connect-a-road-warrior-vpn-linux-client-to-a-check-point-firewall-1/ is a sort of old guide on how one guy got it working
[14:55] <juann_atous> bean: have read that
[14:55] <juann_atous> bean: *last time*   I knwo that isn't this time, but I didn't need to do anything with ssl
[14:56] <bean> alright, I can't help you, sorry.
[14:56] <juann_atous> can't remember if it was vpnc I just used but it simply worked   prompted for pass, i stuck in pin and secureid token and was done
[14:56] <juann_atous> ye, thanks anyway
[15:00] <makerbreakr> hey, has anyone run into this before? https://gist.github.com/coderforhire/5435734
[15:02] <MonkeyDust> makerbreakr  what's the output of lsb_release -sd ?
[15:02] <makerbreakr> Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS
[15:03] <betrayd> makerbreakr:
[15:03] <MonkeyDust> makerbreakr  and the output of sudo apt-get update | pastebinit -- paste the url here
[15:04] <makerbreakr> no errors: https://gist.github.com/coderforhire/5435761
[15:04] <makerbreakr> (I cant install packages currently, and dont have pastebinit)
[15:04] <MonkeyDust> makerbreakr  I see a mix od i386 and amd64
[15:05] <makerbreakr> hrm ..ya, i didnt notice that
[15:05] <MonkeyDust> makerbreakr  maybe that's what causes it
[15:10] <makerbreakr> monkeydust, is there a quick way to update the def arch?
[15:11] <MonkeyDust> makerbreakr  delete the obsolete source(s)
[15:14] <waqarfcb> Clan match ?
[15:14] <waqarfcb> CLAN MATCH ANYONE !!
[15:14] <waqarfcb> CLAN MATCH ANYONE !!
[15:14] <waqarfcb> CLAN MATCH ANYONE !!
[15:14] <FloodBot1> waqarfcb: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:14] <makerbreakr> MonkeyDust, i think that is normal
[15:14] <makerbreakr> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1910994
[15:15] <waqarfcb> clan match ! ?
[15:15] <Yonney> hi all, is there a command that informs about exactly where the current grub is installed (which partition, if in the MBR, on which disk...)?
[15:15] <genii-around> waqarfcb: This is a tech support channel. Chitchat in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[15:15] <lorddune> Hi, I am running Ubuntu 12.04 LTS and have disabled journaling and updating. But I still have some process which is overheating my PC every night at the same time. I have been searching for solutions for ovetr a month.
[15:15] <waqarfcb> ClAN maTCH ANYONE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! CoD4
[15:15] <MonkeyDust> waqarfcb  stop
[15:16] <waqarfcb> ...
[15:16] <MonkeyDust> makerbreakr  looks odd
[15:19] <lorddune> Hi, I am running Ubuntu 12.04 LTS and have disabled journaling and updating. But I still have some process which is overheating my PC every night at the same time. I have been searching for solutions for ovetr a month.
[15:19] <makerbreakr> MonkeyDust, I just d/l and force the packe install manually
[15:19] <makerbreakr> seemed to have fixed it
[15:20] <MonkeyDust> makerbreakr  great (y)
[15:20] <ActionParsnip> Yonney: I'd ask in #grub
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> lorddune: does the system have a make and model?
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> lorddune: what process chews the cpu?
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> lorddune: did you setup any cron jobs?
[15:29] <arun003> how to keep terminal always in launcher ??
[15:30] <wilee-nilee> arun003, What desktop?
[15:30] <auronandace> arun003: open a terminal, right click and add it
[15:31] <arun003> when i right click there is no option for adding it .. @wilee
[15:32] <auronandace> arun003: lock to launcher
[15:32] <arun003> oh thanks wilee
[15:33] <wilee-nilee> arun003, Heh never heard of a desk top called "when i right click there is no option for adding it "
[15:33] <arun003> i right clicked inside terminal
[15:33] <auronandace> wilee-nilee: he is talking about adding to the unity side bar
[15:34] <arun003> yep auro
[15:34] <wilee-nilee> no really
[15:38] <JoeyJoeJo> I built a deb using 'checkinstall scons install' and it puts the binary file in /usr/local/sbin. How do I change it so it installs to /usr/sbin instead?
[15:39] <theadmin> JoeyJoeJo: checkinstall is a wrapper around "make install". The ./configure provided by the package probably has a --prefix option, set that to /usr
[15:40] <Yonney> ActionParsnip: I did also ask in #grub, but not enough feedback
[15:40] <JoeyJoeJo> theadmin: The package I'm compiling (gpsd) uses scons instead of ./configure. So would I have to set the prefix in scons?
[15:40] <wilee-nilee> Yonney, So what is the problem?
[15:40] <theadmin> JoeyJoeJo: Well, yeah, I guess, I have no idea what scons is
[15:41] <JoeyJoeJo> Neither did I until I tried to compile gpsd
[15:41] <starbuck> hi, wich mail transport agent does ubuntu 12.10 use b default for local mail?
[15:42] <starbuck> !ubottu
[15:42] <starbuck> !ubottu mta
[15:45] <lorddune> ActionParsnip: sorry i was afk, i didn't see any response earlier
[15:45] <Yonney> wilee-nilee: I have two OSes installed already, on a computer which has 2 physical hard drives with several partitions each. Now I will install a 3rd OS (Pangolin), but want to have some control on the boot menu, and know BEFORE I install, how I can get back to where I was, if something fails...
[15:46] <coolot> are you there thomas?
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> lorddune: scroll up, the question replies will be useful
[15:46] <wilee-nilee> Yonney, what OS's and which would you like to have control?
[15:47] <Yonney> specifically: I want to know that I am able to easily fix so I can boot into the old(present) OS afterwards, in case the installation is messed up, and the boot menu has changed or does not work...
[15:47] <wilee-nilee> Yonney, What OS's are there now?
[15:48] <Yonney> wilee-nilee: the current OS in control is Ubuntu, using grub, and I want to know exactly where that grub installation is now before I make any changes. I dont know how or where to look to see where grub is installed right now.
[15:49] <agon> hello, there
[15:49] <Yonney> I know where to find its menu, and make adjustments to it, though, but I am unsure as of what exactly is "booting" it: I assume the MBR, but which MBR (2 hard disks...)
[15:49] <wilee-nilee> Yonney, The bootloader is in the mbr that is the key, whichever OS is at the top of the grub menu is the controlling OS with grub.
[15:50] <Yonney> wilee-nilee: yes, I know that, but how do I locate grub? Is it the MBR of sda or sdb?
[15:51] <wilee-nilee> Yonney, All you really need to know is how to reload the mbr, locating grub is not what you need.
[15:52] <Yonney> wilee-nilee: since I have 2 MBRs, I think it is quite important that I deal with the correct one, and leave the other alone, therefore I need to know which one loads grub...
[15:52] <wilee-nilee> Yonney, On a ubuntu install if you do a manual install you can point the grub bootloader where you want basically, a partition or the mbr. A partition would be to save the control to the one you have now.
[15:52] <Yonney> (because I have 2 physical hard drives...)
[15:52] <wilee-nilee> Yonney, Is this a uefi setup?
[15:53] <Yonney> no uefi, standard bios, 2+ year old machine
[15:54] <wilee-nilee> Yonney, There is a bootscript we use to identify key parts such as what mbr contains what and what grub files are in a OS, or boot files say in a windows setup and other ket info.
[15:54] <wilee-nilee> key*
[15:54] <Yonney> wilee-nilee: yes, but I want to continue adding to the existing menu, and keep the current one in control, just need to know where it is and how to fix it if someting fails...
[15:56] <wilee-nilee> Yonney, TO keep the one in control in control do a manual inastall from the something other option, then point grub to the / of the install then run sudo update-grub in the controlling OS.
[15:57] <MartynKeigherFN> hey all.... i have made amenedments in my vsftpd.conf file (as recommended), i have aslo set permissions on my /var/www/ folder to 755 and i still cant ftp upload to it. do i need to do anything esle?? thanks
[15:58] <MartynKeigherFN> error msg in fireftp is: 550 Failed to change directory.
[15:58] <wilee-nilee> Yonney, Many use the bootrepair app, it will give you the bootinfo summary this script is the the one I referenced.
[15:58] <MartynKeigherFN> in my .conf file, write_enable and local_enable are set to YES and uncommented.
[15:59] <aPpYe> I installed a KDE system from  ubuntu mini.  I use Kate to edit some files on a Windows server on a domain.  Often, when I save a file that I have edited, it says that it cannot save until I reconnect to the server in dolphin.  Is there a way to improve this?  I never had this problem when using gedit under gnome, xfce, or cinnamon.
[15:59] <betrayd> the cd is having problems MartynKeigherFN
[16:00] <Anubis> martynkeigherfn: read this: http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/vsftpd.
[16:00] <betrayd> 'change dir' or w/e you have
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> aPpYe: I've seen this issue before.
[16:00] <Anubis> i know is in french but it would help you to solve your problem
[16:00] <Anubis> maybe local_umask=022 ??
[16:02] <aPpYe> ActionParsnip, yeah it is annoying at best!
[16:02] <aPpYe> I was hoping that perhaps there is some feature of Kubuntu that i did not install that perhaps alleviates this...
[16:02] <aPpYe> or ubuntu ...
[16:03] <lorddune> ActionParsnip: AMD Athlon(tm) II X2 240 Processor × 2 , 4 GB RAM, GeForce GT 240/PCIe/SSE2 fx card, 64 bit Ubuntu 12.04 LTS with most recent (stable) kernel, 2TB disk with plenty of free space. Process seems to be some sort of journaling going on that uses 100% cpu and overheats my cpu, makes the fan come on like a jet engine.
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> lorddune: what is the output of: uname -a
[16:06] <MartynKeigherFN> that link is a french webpage
[16:06] <MartynKeigherFN> ??
[16:06] <Anubis> yes
[16:06] <MartynKeigherFN> does me no good.
[16:07] <lorddune> ActionParsnip: 3.2.0-40-generic #64-Ubuntu SMP Mon Mar 25 21:22:10 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[16:09] <lorddune> ActionParsnip: I disabled journaling, turned off Update Manager, disconnected internet (at time it always happens), checked for viruses, I even disconnected the slave drive I had a copy of Windows on to see if that would stop it. Nothing I can do or find on the internet has helped yet.
[16:10] <jazzdle> Hello, guys. The fonts in all browsers are too big and I have tried to change the size in Preferences->Content but nothing happened. I have disabled "Allow pages to choose their font" as well but for most pages nothing changes. I did not touch the zoom option because my installation is fresh ( And I did it several times). Also in "about:config" setting layout.css.dpi to 96 or 72 doesn't change the situation. Any ideas?
[16:11] <lorddune> ActionParsnip: I have run iotop to try and see what the culprit is, but cvannot determine it from that
[16:11] <MartynKeigher> hey...when i run a ls -l command i get this
[16:11] <MartynKeigher> drwxr-xr-x 5 webmaster root      4096 Apr 22 10:31 mklab
[16:12] <MartynKeigher> i understand webmaster is owner.... but whats root?
[16:12] <theadmin> MartynKeigher: group
[16:12] <MartynKeigher> perfect! how do the group?
[16:12] <MartynKeigher> *change
[16:12] <theadmin> MartynKeigher: chown :newgroup mklab
[16:12] <MartynKeigher> i wasnt the group to be webadmins
[16:13] <MartynKeigher> so an existing group
[16:13] <saac> MartynKeigher, chown user:group mklab
[16:14] <theadmin> MartynKeigher: Yes, it has to exist
[16:14] <theadmin> :newgroup is just some name
[16:14] <theadmin> Well, newgroup is the name, the : specifies that you're changing the group
[16:14] <MartynKeigher> ah i getchya. i read it wrong
[16:15] <MartynKeigher> perfect. did it! "chown :webadmins mklab"
[16:15] <MartynKeigher> i thought :newgroup was u indicating me creating a new group! lol
[16:15] <MartynKeigher> thanks
[16:15] <lorddune> jazzdle do you have all of the fonts installed that you need?
[16:17] <jazzdle> lodrdune: Yep, and I didn't change anything (according to fonts names in settings), just the size
[16:17] <jazzdle> but yes, I have all of them.
[16:18] <lorddune> jazzdle: what GUI are you running?
[16:18] <Soltis> How can I get an strace of apache2?
[16:18] <jazzdle> gnome, but the same with kde, unity and xfce4
[16:19] <jazzdle> and it's only with the browsers
[16:19] <Soltis> The normal strace ... apache2 -X won't work for what are probably obvious reasons. (apache2: bad user name ${APACHE_RUN_USER})
[16:19] <snuggl> Soltis: start is as normal
[16:20] <snuggl> then just strace it afterwards
[16:20] <bpmj> Hey folks, is there a way in Unity to display what workspace I'm on in the top bar?
[16:20] <bpmj> I love workspaces, but  Ifind myself getting lost.
[16:20] <bpmj> :/
[16:20] <Soltis> snuggl: Let's pretend apache2 is segfaulting on start with certain config options enabled.
[16:20] <snuggl> ah
[16:20] <lorddune> jazzdle: do you have ubuntu tweak running?
[16:21] <jazzdle>  lorddune: is it possible to set a font size which to override all the settings somewhere (as abount:conf) for example?
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> lorddune: while it is happening you will need to run it then, also use top to see what is using the CPU most
[16:21] <lorddune> jazzdle: there is a setting to control fonts in that
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> bpmj: that is a feature in Raring :(
[16:21] <jazzdle>  lorddune: I already have done that, the same (and it's mainly for everything else)
[16:21] <MartynKeigher> does the following command set a "home directory" for an ftp login:   "usermod -d /var/www/ webmaster" ??
[16:21] <lorddune> ActionParsnip: it's basically just journaling. jde2/8
[16:22] <bpmj> ActionParsnip: that's the next version, right?
[16:22] <MartynKeigher> i added the user 'webmaster' by doing useradd .... not adduser. :(
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> bpmj: could use the Indicator-Workspaces:
[16:22] <bpmj> ActionParsnip: is that a setting, or is it something I have to install?
[16:23] <Soltis> snuggl: I'm trying setting APACHE_RUN_USER and APACHE_RUN_GROUP on the command line, but I want to know if there are any *other* caveats I need to know about to make sure it picks up the config files and such so I can trace the actual fault.
[16:23] <lorddune> jazzdle: you can install the gnome tweak tool and adjust the default sizes if you dont like them
[16:23] <MartynKeigher> nvm..i got it.
[16:24] <MonkeyDust> Soltis  there's also #ubuntu-server -- apache is server technology
[16:24] <MartynKeigher> i really am learning so much setting this up! its awesome! :)
[16:25] <Krisiun> Hi I have a usb datacard, currently network manager detects it as a modem, I want to mount its ROM, what do I do? I am not an expert in Linux. Please help.
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> MartynKeigher: feels good when you get it sorted too :)
[16:25] <MartynKeigher> yup! :)
[16:25] <MartynKeigher> plenty of note taking!!
[16:25] <Krisiun> dmesg contents are
[16:25] <Krisiun> [ 1316.864841] option 5-2:1.0: GSM modem (1-port) converter detected
[16:25] <Krisiun> [ 1316.864943] usb 5-2: GSM modem (1-port) converter now attached to ttyUSB0
[16:25] <Krisiun> [ 1316.866775] option 5-2:1.1: GSM modem (1-port) converter detected
[16:25] <Krisiun> [ 1316.866875] usb 5-2: GSM modem (1-port) converter now attached to ttyUSB1
[16:25] <Krisiun> [ 1316.868773] option 5-2:1.2: GSM modem (1-port) converter detected
[16:25] <FloodBot1> Krisiun: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:25] <Krisiun> [ 1316.868880] usb 5-2: GSM modem (1-port) converter now attached to ttyUSB2
[16:27] <lorddune> ActionParsnip: even though I have Update Manager OFF, does that program still download the packages??
[16:28] <Krisiun> My dmesg shows like this
[16:28] <Krisiun> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5593020/
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> bpmj: http://ppa.launchpad.net/geod/ppa-geod/ubuntu/pool/main/i/indicator-workspaces/indicator-workspaces_0.6.2.2_all.deb    may help, link was from askubuntu :)
[16:28] <Krisiun> Means it is detected as a virtual CD rom also. But how to mount it?
[16:29] <MartynKeigher> ok heres an odd one. i am ssh into my server thats at my house (im at work) but the server cant ping google.com
[16:30] <MartynKeigher> what do i need to add in the interfaces?
[16:30] <MartynKeigher> connection is FINE...as i can ssh/ftp/web-browse to it
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> MartynKeigher: echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" | sudo tee -a /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head > /dev/null
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> MartynKeigher: is how I do it :)
[16:31] <MartynKeigher> do i need to restart any services after that?
[16:32] <MartynKeigher> and whats the dev/null for?
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> MartynKeigher: you can run:   echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" | sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf > /dev/null      and get the same effect
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> MartynKeigher: tee outputs to the file and the screen, so I pipe the stdout to /dev/null it's neater
[16:33] <llutz> MartynKeigher: if you change ... /head, you have to "sudo resolvconf -u" after it
[16:35] <HerrKlemmy> test
[16:36] <auronandace> !test | HerrKlemmy
[16:36] <JoeyJoeJo> I built a deb package and it worked. The only problem is that my package didn't have anything in /etc and it didn't set itself to start on boot when I installed it. How can I do that
[16:36] <HerrKlemmy> im new
[16:36] <HerrKlemmy> Am I right here for guys who can help me out in Ubuntu problems ?
[16:37] <JoeyJoeJo> HerrKlemmy: Yup
[16:38] <MEMMYBOY89> http://russianteenmoviedownload.blogspot.com/2013/04/russian-schoolgirls-anal-lessons.html
[16:41] <RageRiot> ioquake
[16:42] <RageRiot>  lol missed /j
[16:42] <Krisiun> Anyone to help me? :(
[16:42] <wilee-nilee> RageRiot, and a #
[16:43] <llutz> Krisiun: sudo mkdir /media/cdrom && sudo mount /dev/sr1 /media/cdrom
[16:43] <Krisiun> llutz: Thank you, I will try it.
[16:44] <Bauer1> what is the best way to find out what exactly is slowing down my linux system? simply watching top doesnt really help me, seeing like 40+ instances of chrome, or seeing that compiz suddenly jumps in CPU or seeing some 'kworker' which jumps
[16:45] <Krisiun> llutz: Thank you, that worked!
[16:45] <llutz> Krisiun: sudo umount /media/cdrom   to umount it later
[16:46] <HerrKlemmy>  Is there an error log for display errors ? my second monitor switches off and on, when I start different programs...
[16:46] <JoeyJoeJo> HerrKlemmy: Check /var/log/message
[16:46] <JoeyJoeJo> /var/log/messages
[16:47] <roott> 172.168.1.3
[16:48] <HerrKlemmy> JoeyJoeJo: There is no such file
[16:48] <roott> hi
[16:49] <wilee-nilee> HerrKlemmy, It is in root
[16:52] <BluesKaj> HerrKlemmy, there isn messages file in /var/log , check the syslog
[16:52] <BluesKaj> is no
[16:53] <HerrKlemmy> how to do that ?
[16:53] <JoeyJoeJo> HerrKlemmy: ls /var/log/syslog
[16:53] <BluesKaj> alt+f2 , /var/log , then look for syslog
[16:54] <JoeyJoeJo> Or better yet, ls /var/log
[16:54] <JoeyJoeJo> that'll show you all of the log files
[16:55] <Paulos> Hi folks, any idea on how to collect bug information when apport regularly crashes? :)
[16:55] <Paulos> Ubuntu 13.04
[16:55] <matriks404> for me apport too always crashes :P
[16:55] <wilee-nilee> !13.04 > Paulos
[16:56] <matriks404> on 12.10 and 13.04
[16:56] <Paulos> lol :)
[16:56] <Paulos> that's kind of bad, isn't it?
[16:56] <HerrKlemmy> hm nothing helpful in syslock. For Example it switches off, when I start WinSCP via Wine
[16:57] <JoeyJoeJo> HerrKlemmy: You should be able to find a WinSCP equivalent for ubuntu. I don't know of a good GUI scp client, but there is always the scp command
[16:59] <HerrKlemmy> yeah I know - I'm just used to it. But that's not the point. There are other programs from ubuntu itself which "starts" the error
[16:59] <DooMMasteR> oh hai
[17:00] <DooMMasteR> I have a little problem/serious problem?
[17:00] <DooMMasteR> I just installed Ubuntu for the 2. time and then FGLRX-legacy… and in bith cases unity was broken when I rebooted after the install
[17:00] <mihasya> is there a doc for getting 12.04 pxe-boot to utilize a custom mirror host? I am piecing together stack overflow responses and bug reports. I got it loading the correct preseed file, but it still looks for archive.ubuntu.com. Anyone have any luck getting this working?
[17:01] <DooMMasteR> uninstalling does not help
[17:01] <DooMMasteR> but everything else is fine…
[17:01] <DooMMasteR> even running Games, Steam, Chrome, all works fine
[17:01] <DooMMasteR> but Unity does not, the desktop appears and then nothing, no launcher no menu bar
[17:02] <adamk> DooMMasteR: Does /var/log/Xorg.0.log show anything interesting?  glxinfo reports you have 3D acceleration?  What shows up in your ~/.xsession-errors file?
[17:03] <DooMMasteR> adamk: nothing odd in Xorg logs and yes 3D accel works fine, as said even heavy 3D games work fine (tried some things in Wine and some native Steam apps)
[17:03] <DooMMasteR> all100% Functional
[17:03] <DooMMasteR> only the menubar and launcher are missing from the experience
[17:03] <DooMMasteR> no clues to why they are gone in the logs -.-
[17:04] <DooMMasteR> I was said to do unity --reset and stuff like that, but it did not change anything
[17:04] <adamk> Well any errors from unity should show up in ~/.xsession-errors
[17:04] <impi> hell
[17:04] <impi> hello
[17:04] <DooMMasteR> let me check .xession-errors
[17:04] <impi> anyone here using a wacom tablet?
[17:06] <wilee-nilee> impi, THe channel works with you presenting your problem
[17:07] <mihasya> heh.. shot in the dark and got it working. had to set country to "manual"
[17:07] <impi> wilee-nilee, okey, thanks for telling me that, i have a wacom tablet, using it in ubuntu 12.10 - works great! however, at the top there is a ring, and one can use it for scrolling - when i issue somewacom xset commands, and log out, and back in i can scroll using this ring, i want to set those commands to run automatically, so i made a sh script, however this doesnt work, now i want to add them to xorg.conf
[17:07] <impi> anyone have any experience with this?
[17:13] <sachn> hi... I am using dell inspiron 7520 in windows 8 , when I tried to install Ubuntu 12.10 along it , it installed correctly and then came an dialouge box of restarting the system , but then in BIOS page option of ubuntu didn't came , it is showing only windows 8 option in BIOS page
[17:13] <FrostyG> I thinking of running ubuntu in a virual environment for web browsing and just to keep up with the OS
[17:15] <FrostyG> is virtualbox still about the best for that these days?
[17:15] <compdoc> virtualbox might be best for that
[17:15] <wilee-nilee> sachn, Have you been looking at the UEFI wiki?
[17:16] <theadmin> FrostyG: I'd say yes
[17:16] <FrostyG> wow i can't beleive mint is #1 now on distro watch
[17:17] <FrostyG> what happened?!
[17:17] <BluesKaj> FrostyG, politics
[17:17] <compdoc> some ppl like the monty flavor
[17:17] <compdoc> minty
[17:19] <FrostyG> politics eh? hmm
[17:20] <wilee-nilee> impi, Things have changed as far as any xorg.conf this may help in general. http://askubuntu.com/questions/217758/how-to-make-an-xorg-conf-file
[17:21] <wilee-nilee> FrostyG, This is ubuntu support, you might try #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:21] <FrostyG> don't get your boxers in a bunch wilee-nilee
[17:21] <impi> hey wilee-nilee thanks man, yea, i have this file, which contains default wacom stuff /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-wacom.conf
[17:22] <wilee-nilee> !behavior | FrostyG
[17:23]  * wilee-nilee loves the ignore
[17:23] <FrostyG> some things never change, I see why mint is #1 now lol...
[17:23] <impi> my buddy advocates mint
[17:24] <impi> i dunno, havent treid it yet...as soon as he said he hates effects i stopped listening to be honest
[17:24] <impi> i mean, my ubuntu is P.I.M.P yo
[17:24] <betrayd> lol
[17:25] <BluesKaj> mint is ok for ppl who require a stable conservative environment without much challenge
[17:25] <IdleOne> !ot
[17:26] <BluesKaj> yup , just so busy in here , we might miss a question :)
[17:27] <IdleOne> BluesKaj: not the point, and you know better.
[17:28] <BluesKaj> bah , IdleOne ... I do,  but I made made my point as well
[17:29] <IdleOne> BlueEagle: Your point was off topic also. I don't understand how someone who has been a part of this community for so long insists on not following a simple rule.
[17:31] <Frank15> yo guys, if i want to install ubuntu cloud ,really its installing ubuntu server then adding MAAS and openstck and juju, right?
[17:32] <czardoz> Frank15: Yes
[17:32] <czardoz> I think :)
[17:32] <Frank15> ok cool thanks, do you know what MAAS is though, cause I have no clue
[17:33] <SilkyJackson> I have ubuntu 12.10 now on my older desktop. I was wanting to turn it into a home server. Can I do this from the desktop version or do I need to just fresh install the ubuntu server version
[17:33] <czardoz> Frank15: haha, no sorry :)
[17:33] <python|pi> Think Ubuntu would give us a pentesting machine?
[17:33] <python|pi> OS
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[17:33] <ants> MASS: https://maas.ubuntu.com/
[17:35] <BluesKaj> SilkyJackson, depends how you want to use the server
[17:37] <SilkyJackson> just to use for movies pics and some other things
[17:37] <BluesKaj> SilkyJackson, for example i have kubuntu on this pc and it's basically a media server , connected to a tv/monitor
[17:37] <SilkyJackson> I was going to look into using it as a VPN too
[17:37] <BluesKaj> vpn doesn't need a server environment , SilkyJackson
[17:38] <championswimmer> -dev
[17:39] <SilkyJackson> so I can turn it into a home server, a vpn and connect to the files while I am away from the house
[17:39] <BluesKaj> SilkyJackson, yes that's what vpn is for
[17:40] <Pinkamena_D> which directory holds all of the commands that can be run from the terminal?
[17:40] <theadmin> Pinkamena_D: All the directories in $PATH.
[17:40] <asnarang> I want to prepare a live CD/DVD of applications installed on my Ubuntu.  Please help
[17:40] <theadmin> Pinkamena_D: echo $PATH, those are the directories
[17:41] <SilkyJackson> sweet, then I guess thats what I am doing this afternoon
[17:41] <SilkyJackson> and tips or suggestions before I get started
[17:41] <Pinkamena_D> I installed a program a while back without the package manager (glances) and I completely forgot how i installed it
[17:41] <Pinkamena_D> it overrider all of the newer versions which I can get with the package manager, though, so i need ot get rid of it
[17:41] <wilee-nilee> Pinkamena_D, What is it?
[17:41] <Pinkamena_D> overrides*
[17:42] <Pinkamena_D> glances
[17:42] <vitimiti> o/
[17:42] <Pinkamena_D> for example, after apt-get removing it I can still run it from the terminal, so I need to find where the other version is at
[17:43] <betrayd> Pinkamena_D: you can type which cmd-name
[17:43] <theadmin> Pinkamena_D: /usr/local/ is the most likely.
[17:43] <theadmin> Pinkamena_D: but yes, "which COMMAND" or "whence COMMAND" will give you the path where it gets it from
[17:43] <SilkyJackson> thanks for the help BluesK
[17:43] <theadmin> (depending on the shell may need to use one or the other)
[17:43] <BluesKaj> SilkyJackson, investigate the various vpn sites closely, some aren't truthful about their speed and services ...the old adage if looks too good to be true ....
[17:44] <SilkyJackson> I use PIA on my laptop right now because it was cheap and I just wanted some extra security while traveling
[17:46] <KHendrik> can anyone please remindme where to find the website to rate your pcs ubuntu compatibility
[17:48] <woonx> Hello. I'm using Autofs to mount a couple shares in my network, and despite using the "rw" option, they are mounted "read-only". How can I troubleshoot it?
[17:48] <cato_> I'm willing to pay to have someone cross-compile a library (Flann) to ARM for me and document the steps. Any takers?
[17:53] <Bauer1> how to kill all chrome open tabs with cmd line? like kill -9 pid is for single instnance
[17:54] <snuggl> Bauer1: killall <processname>
[17:54] <snuggl> and -9/-KILL for that specific signal
[17:55] <genii-around> snuggl: I get the idea they don't want to kill the application, only the open tabs within the application. Which I'm not sure is possible.
[17:57] <axept> Is there a place to download sp-auth (for sopcast player) for 64-bit?
[17:59] <DooMMasteR> ** (zeitgeist-datahub:1991): WARNING **: recent-manager-provider.vala:133: Desktop file for "file:///home/stratum0/allprint.gcode" was not found, exec: python, mime_type: application/octet-stream
[17:59] <DooMMasteR> /bin/sh: 1: ubuntuone-launch: not found
[17:59] <DooMMasteR> adamk:
[17:59] <DooMMasteR> that is what .xsession-errors tells me
[17:59] <DooMMasteR> compiz (decor) - Warn: No default decoration found, placement will not be correct
[17:59] <DooMMasteR> (gnome-settings-daemon:1711): color-plugin-WARNING **: failed to reset xrandr-209065161 gamma tables: gamma size is zero
[18:01] <snuggl> genii-around: ah, thats possible too
[18:01] <snuggl> just get a list and kill all but the first one
[18:01] <snuggl> or use some pstree magics
[18:02] <snuggl> chrome spawns a new proc per tab iirc
[18:03] <masse-thomas> avidemux
[18:04] <thinkerweb> so if you a have a softare raid, and drive 0 dies, what do you do?
[18:04] <DooMMasteR> adamk: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5593323/  :)
[18:05] <masse-thomas> firestarter
[18:06] <Arrick> hey guys/gals, how do i send a test message from a server install when using msmtp?
[18:07] <Bauer1> thanks snuggl , what is the meaning of adding -9?
[18:14] <roott> hola
[18:16] <Maelstrom_> new version of mint is coming out soon
[18:17] <meep> Can someone recommend a linux terminal emulater for windows? I'd like to run one on my work machine so I can try to get used to working in a linux terminal
[18:17] <diverdude> hello. i have inserted a usb. i have this in lsusb: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5593356/ Which /dev/sd* is then the usb disk?
[18:18] <axept> maybe, but I need sp-auth 64-bit :P Anyone?
[18:18] <diverdude> i have inserted the iomega disk
[18:19] <wilee-nilee> diverdude, Run sudo fdisk -l
[18:19] <cato_s> diverdude: try fdisk -l
[18:21] <adamk> meep: You are probably better off us just installing a linux distribution inside vmware or virtualbox on windows.
[18:21] <Maelstrom_> nature prefers the right
[18:22] <meep> adamk: thanks for the advice
[18:22] <Maelstrom_> i have windows in VMware
[18:23] <Maelstrom_> how else would i be able to use a sofisticatd irc client like mirc
[18:23] <Maelstrom_> ?
[18:24] <Vivekananda> Hey everyone. Old computer with limited space and I created the /home with around 5 gbs only. I figured that later if I need space I will just tranfer files to another partition and symlink. Currently my .local occupies 900 mbs and .cache is 600 mbs !!
[18:24] <Vivekananda> should shift them ?
[18:24] <PartTimeLegend> Unity has turned purple and wallpaper is just solid white. What on earth>
[18:25] <Vivekananda> I am on lubuntu 12.04
[18:25] <wilee-nilee> PartTimeLegend, THis 13.04?
[18:25] <PartTimeLegend> wilee-nilee: It is. I asked in +1 but everyone seems to be sleeping.
[18:26] <compdoc> just a few more days - be interesting to see the new version
[18:27] <Bodsda> hey, can someone help me out with a samba share - I've configured ~/Downloads to be shared through nautilus and am trying to use raspbmc to connect to it but it's not working, I don't know if I'm specifying the sharename wrong or if its a config issue. How can I confirm if the share is correctly configured?
[18:27] <sparr> I am trying to find a laptop for which Ubuntu has good out of the box support for all the hardware. First I found https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport/Machines/Laptops which says to check https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam which says to check https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Laptop, but that page only has info on DOING testing. I want to find RESULTS of testing. Help?
[18:27] <MonkeyDust> PartTimeLegend  use ubuntuone to store your files, then transfer them to your new pc
[18:28] <MonkeyDust> PartTimeLegend  or connect the two pc and use rsync
[18:28] <PartTimeLegend> MonkeyDust: I think you misunderstood the issue.
[18:29] <PartTimeLegend> MonkeyDust: I am not transfering any files. I'm getting purple and white
[18:31] <axept> anyone who has the sp-auth*.deb file for 12.10 64-bit?
[18:32] <jhutchins_wk> sparr: You'll have to create some.
[18:32] <sparr> jhutchins_wk: create some what?
[18:32] <jhutchins_wk> sparr: Results.  Data.
[18:32] <sparr> err...
[18:33] <sparr> are you suggesting that no one else is using that project?
[18:33] <OerHeks> axept, see this answer > http://handytutorial.com/install-sopcast-player-in-ubuntu-12-10-12-04/#comment-474
[18:33] <jhutchins_wk> sparr: Linux hardware compatibility relies on voluntary user contributions, and frankly it's fairly spotty.  You can help.  If not you, who?
[18:34] <sparr> If not me... people who already have laptops, or have money to burn buying laptops they don't know are supported.
[18:34] <axept> OerHeks: I know, but its gone from that site...
[18:34] <Bodsda> sparr: if it doesn't work, take it back
[18:35] <jhutchins_wk> Most people put their effort into getting the hardware working, and if it works they can't be bothered to report it.
[18:35] <OerHeks> axept, but check the PPA first, it has 3.2.6 << https://launchpad.net/~ferramroberto/+archive/sopcast ohhh i see now
[18:35] <OerHeks> no quantal
[18:35] <axept> yes
[18:35] <axept> found it on code.google.com, dont know if I can use the one from there?
[18:35] <sparr> jhutchins_wk: I know. I want to see the reports *anyway*
[18:35] <OerHeks> axept, contact the owner of that ppa, or get the source and build yourself?
[18:36] <sparr> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/HPNW8240
[18:36] <sparr> I'm looking for pages like that
[18:36] <mido> hy
[18:36] <Bodsda> sparr: check out system76
[18:36] <sparr> every higher level page under /LaptopTestingTeam/ has links to the new laptop testing page
[18:37] <sparr> but the new pages don't have any info similar to the old pages
[18:37] <mido> i have bugs in mmy system nautilus can any one help me
[18:38] <mido> it give me error report nautilus crashed with SIGABRT in raise
[18:38] <axept> well, the one from code.google.com didn't work.. wouldn't even let me install.. (from software center)
[18:38] <jhutchins_wk> mido: which release?
[18:39] <wilee-nilee> mido, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/970534
[18:41] <Maelstrom_> irc=fedstrap operation
[18:41] <bazhang> !ot | Maelstrom_
[18:43] <cocoa117> i noticed when i using sudo configuration to change nagios privilege when execute /usr/sbin/smartctl command, the auth log shows following
[18:43] <cocoa117> pans : TTY=pts/3 ; PWD=/usr/lib/nagios/plugins ; USER=nagios ; COMMAND=/bin/bash -c /usr/sbin/smartctl -H /dev/sda
[18:43] <cocoa117> it said the USER=nagios, but when i execute this command with sudo /usr/sbin/smartctl it shows different user, root
[18:43] <cocoa117> pans : TTY=pts/3 ; PWD=/usr/lib/nagios/plugins ; USER=root ; COMMAND=/usr/sbin/smartctl -H /dev/sda
[18:43] <cocoa117> i am thinking this is why i can't make nagios working as root, and smartctl can't work for me
[18:43] <cocoa117> how to make this sudo works for nagios user?
[18:44] <trashi> hi, im looking for ubuntu touch. is there special irc channel or can I simply ask my questions here??
[18:44] <Arrick> hey guys/gals, if I need to be able to have a server have a working outbound email, what would be the simplest solution? I was recommended mailutils and postfix last week, however, for some reason I cant get it configured correctly. Is sendmail an option for what I am looking for?
[18:45] <bazhang> trashi, #ubuntu-touch
[18:46] <trashi> bazhang: thanks!
[18:48] <stephenjudkins> Arrick: simplest solution is http://sendgrid.com/, plus they deal with keeping you off spam blacklists, etc.
[18:48] <stephenjudkins> but it really depends how much your time is worth
[18:49] <bean> cocoa117: the best solution there is to allow sudo w/ no password for just that command
[18:49] <bean> cocoa117: it's usually not a good idea to run a whole service as root, though, especially one that is running arbitrary commands, like nagios.
[18:50] <cocoa117> bean, so how to do it? i already set the /etc/visudo file with this line
[18:50] <cocoa117> nagios  ALL=(root) NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/smartctl
[18:50] <devtekbeta> my additional drivers wont run. is there a way to fix it or command to get more info?
[18:50] <bean> cocoa117: and it doesn't work? do you have the command definition to have sudo in front of it.
[18:50] <cocoa117> bean, i still got permission deny message
[18:51] <cocoa117> bean, this is what i run in command line "sudo -u nagios -s /usr/sbin/smartctl -H"
[18:51] <cocoa117> bean, and here is error messaage ""Smartctl open device: /dev/sda failed: Permission denied
[18:52] <bean> cocoa117: probably need to make sure that sudo requires a tty.
[18:52] <cocoa117> bean, when i look at the auth log, i see this pans : TTY=pts/0 ; PWD=/srv/sto/home/pans ; USER=nagios ; COMMAND=/bin/bash -c /usr/sbin/smartctl -H /dev/sda
[18:52] <cocoa117> bean, it seems the USER=nagios is the issue, here, when the command successfully run with other account, the user was root
[18:54] <bean> cocoa117: okay. ill look @ this in a min
[18:55] <cocoa117> bean, many thanx
[18:57] <Pici> cocoa117: set chmod +s on /usr/bin/smartctl if you want to allow non-root users to run it with root privs.
[18:58] <cocoa117> Pici, hahahaha, that's it!!! it works, many thanx
[19:00] <cocoa117> Pici, does this mean, there is no need to set /etc/visudo file?
[19:00] <thinkerweb> so if you a have a softare raid, and drive 0 dies, what do you do?
[19:00] <Pici> cocoa117: you can to allow specific users/groups the ability to use that executable, but using +s will allow ANY user to run it.
[19:01] <wilee-nilee> thinkerweb, THis a server?
[19:01] <Pici> cocoa117: if that doesn't jive with your security setup, then you'll need to use sudoers
[19:02] <cocoa117> Pici, i just tested, by remove the sudoers line, and it still works. I guess this is not really what I am looking for
[19:02] <cocoa117> Pici, damn, still wants sudoers method
[19:03] <sparr> Pici: +s does not allow ANY user to run it. the +x bits still determine who can run it. +s just determines whose permissions it runs with.
[19:03] <Arrick> stephenjudkins, yeah, we have a full blown exchange system, I am just wanting to be able to have our website be able to send emails out bound.
[19:03] <Pici> sparr: right. I should have said that.
[19:04] <stephenjudkins> Arrick: yeah if your boss is OK spending $10/mo just use send grid. just the fact they make sure you never get spam blocked is worth it.
[19:05] <Arrick> yeah, this is only sending to our own network, its a modified moodle install, for our internal learning managment system. I just cant seem to get postfix to send the emails anymore for some reason.
[19:06] <Arrick> IdleOne, you around today?
[19:09] <zero_coder> hello. i cant acess wifi network in ubuntu
[19:10] <zero_coder> its showing wifi is disabled by hardware switch, which is not the case
[19:10] <deav> zero_coder open a terminal and type ifconfig. what do you see?
[19:10] <zero_coder> eth0 , lo usb0
[19:10] <zero_coder> no wifi
[19:10] <deav> zero_coder type dmesg | grep network and post results please
[19:10] <zero_coder> deav
[19:11] <ag11> i wanted driver for Nvidia Geforce GO 6200 with turbocache can you help
[19:11] <zero_coder> no result deav
[19:12] <deav> sorry zero_coder
[19:12] <Gundarr> Hello?  Anyone home?  Just logged in...
[19:12] <deav> dmesg | grep usb0
[19:13] <zero_coder> [  170.889345] rndis_host 2-1.1:2.0 usb0: register 'rndis_host' at usb-0000:00:1d.0-1.1, RNDIS device, aa:bb:cc:dd:ee:ff
[19:13] <zero_coder> deav : thts what I get
[19:14] <m00dy> Hi all
[19:15] <BluesKaj> ag11, the nvidia-current driver should work with your graphics 6200 card
[19:17] <bazzer> if i wanted to install ubuntu server over the network via pxe using http instead of nfs, what options would i append to the initrd line?
[19:18] <diverdude> is it possible to setup a simple bash script that sends a mail when a job is completed?
[19:19] <ag_> want drdriver for nvidia geforce go 6200 w/ turbocache
[19:19] <crypticmofo> can somebody help me install java please ?
[19:20] <crypticmofo> im on ubuntu 12.10 kernel 3.5.0-17
[19:20] <ag_> want drdriver for nvidia geforce go 6200 w/ turbocache
[19:20] <wilee-nilee> crypticmofo, this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java or this is even easier. http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html
[19:21] <wilee-nilee> crypticmofo, Depends on  what you want really openjdk or not.
[19:21] <ag_> want driver for nvidia geforce go 6200 w/ turbocache
[19:21] <betrayd> diverdude: i'd make sure that cmmandline 'mail' (i use mutt) works first
[19:22] <betrayd> diverdude: specially if sending to an external mailbox
[19:22] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[19:23] <ag_> want driver for nvidia geforce go 6200 w/ turbocache  for ubuntu 12.10 32 bit
[19:23] <theadmin> ag_: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[19:24] <BluesKaj> ag_,install the nvidia-current driver , it should work with your 6200 card
[19:24] <theadmin> ag_: Also, repeating many times won't do you any good.
[19:24] <ag_> its go 6200
[19:24] <ShapeShifter499> is there any "nice" way of using multiple cloud accounts as one?  I really want to set up a auto backup system that would split files if one account drive was full and stick it in another
[19:24] <Gundarr> I need advice.  I've been using Ubuntu for almost 3 years now on my aging Toshiba laptop (http://cnet.co/11f10yV).  I am using Ubuntu 12.04.2 Precise Pangolin with the Proposed Updates and Backports Updates release channels in my APT sources list; I am also using this PPA from Launchpad.net for my laptop's old ATI Radeon HD 4200 graphics card (http://bit.ly/Gap26).  I recently found this article on the Internet (http://bit.ly/
[19:24] <Gundarr> Z03obc).   A fellow Ubuntu user on Google+ posted this and person commented on it (http://bit.ly/17SIl16).   Considering the age of my laptop, could I still UPGRADE to the **QUANTEL Long-Term Support** X.org packages like my Google+ acquaintance???
[19:24] <ShapeShifter499> I happen to have 3 50 gig box.net accounts
[19:24] <BluesKaj> ag , yeah the same driver works for the 6 series cards
[19:25] <theadmin> ShapeShifter499: There's this: http://storagemadeeasy.com/
[19:25] <jrib> Gundarr: quantal is not long term support
[19:26] <ShapeShifter499> theadmin, free?
[19:26] <Gundarr> Yeah, but there's a back-ported X.org package marked "Quantel LTS" when you subscribe to the "Proposed Updates".  My acquaintance said she upgraded with her AMD Radeon HD 6xxx series graphics card and said it was fine, but I am not sure about myself.
[19:27] <theadmin> ShapeShifter499: I think it's free up to 3 accounts and then you'll need to pay
[19:27] <ag_> want driver for nvidia geforce go 6200 w/ turbocache  for ubuntu 12.10 32 bit  its geforce go
[19:27] <theadmin> ag_: WHY YOU NO LISTEN
[19:27] <theadmin> ag_: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[19:28] <litlehelpa> hi can i backup whit deja dup system
[19:28] <theadmin> litlehelpa: ...uh, yes?
[19:28] <ShapeShifter499> theadmin, lame, those box.net accounts are not the only 3 I have, I estimate I have around 200-400 gigs of free online storage split across multiple accounts
[19:28] <theadmin> ShapeShifter499: Ah... Well, I don't think there's a free equivalent to that.
[19:29] <MessagesFromTheH> most of the time when i try to use update manager, i get a message saying "connection to daemon was lost". other other half of the time, nothing happens. does anyone know what's wrong and how to fix it?
[19:29] <litlehelpa> i put to backup  "/"  and to exlude Downloads and Trash so it will work?
[19:29] <Gundarr> Try using a wired connection?
[19:30] <theadmin> litlehelpa: You can't back up directories you don't have access to. Not all files in / are world-readable.
[19:30] <litlehelpa> theadmin:  i am using sudo
[19:30] <MessagesFromTheH> i'm very new to ubuntu. running 12.04 TSL
[19:30] <MessagesFromTheH> desktop
[19:30] <theadmin> MessagesFromTheH: ...I can see you're new, it's LTS
[19:31] <MonkeyDust> :)
[19:31] <MessagesFromTheH> lol
[19:31] <MessagesFromTheH> sorry
[19:31] <MessagesFromTheH> ;)
[19:31] <litlehelpa> theadmin:  and if even some are not readable it will save what i need thet is sys drivers and installd programs?
[19:31] <theadmin> litlehelpa: Yes, but I suggest you also exclude /dev, /sys and /proc
[19:31] <MessagesFromTheH> but does anyone know what the problem could be?
[19:32] <litlehelpa> theadmin: why what is  /dev /sys and /proc   ?
[19:32] <crypticmofo> im just trying t orun a java script
[19:33] <crypticmofo> do i need jdk 7 or jdk 6
[19:33] <crypticmofo> the command should be jar file.jar
[19:33] <Gundarr> Is it safe for an AMD Radeon HD 4200 graphics card user to use the "xorg-xserver-video-radeon-lts-quantal" and the Linux kernel 3.5.x packages??  Will that break anything?
[19:33] <theadmin> litlehelpa: I'm not overly sure myself, hard to describe it -- but those are generated every boot, and aren't static data, backing them up is mostly pointless.
[19:33] <jokreg> #ciao
[19:34] <crypticmofo> i will just do apt-get install default-jdk
[19:34] <litlehelpa> theadmin:  ok i dident know thet ty and i decided i shoud manul backup whit this comand tar cvpzf backup.tgz --exclude=/proc --exclude=/lost+found --exclude=/backup.tgz --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/sys /
[19:34] <crypticmofo> does that sound good ?
[19:34] <theadmin> crypticmofo: Well, jdk is for development, if you just want to run java apps that's excessive, use default-jre instead
[19:35] <crypticmofo> ok
[19:35] <crypticmofo> its fine
[19:35] <asdada[A]> hi, anyone know if holdem manager run in ubuntu?
[19:35] <nashant> Hi guys. Anyone know anything about enbaling IOMMU / AMD-Vi? It's enabled in my bios, and it's enabled in my grub options but there's nothing about it in dmesg
[19:36] <Gundarr> Forget OpenJDK, use Oracle's real Java package from WebUpD8.org:  http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html
[19:36] <crypticmofo> theadmin: i think i have it wrong
[19:37] <bradley_> are there any fan control programs for ubuntu server edition? my laptop keeps over heating even though i just cleaned it
[19:37] <crypticmofo> theadmin: im doing something with my palm pre plus right i need to install an application its called webosquickinstall 4.5.0.jar but i just installed java how do i install this app ?
[19:37] <Gundarr> IMPORTANT:  Make sure you use 'sudo apt-get purge --purge --force-yes openjdk*' to remove OpenJDK before using Oracle Java 7.
[19:37] <wilee-nilee> asdada[A], holdem manager, I see no linux versions on the web.
[19:37] <theadmin> Gundarr: Open source is dying because of people like you, you know.
[19:37] <theadmin> crypticmofo: java -jar something.jar
[19:38] <jhutchins_wk> crypticmofo: The thing about Java is that there aren't very good standards for it, and what there are are not followed well.  Unless the java script is part of a reputable package, it's hard to tell what it wants or needs.
[19:38] <crypticmofo> its cool thanks i got it working
[19:38] <jhutchins_wk> asdada[A]: You're assuming we know what that is.
[19:38] <SonikkuAmerica> Google Chrome : Chromium :: Oracle Java : OpenJDK anyway
[19:38] <bradley_> hello
[19:38] <SonikkuAmerica> Yo
[19:38] <twiringer> YEAUX!!
[19:39] <bradley_> are there any fan control programs for ubuntu server edition? my laptop keeps over heating even though i just cleaned it
[19:39] <bradley_> please
[19:39] <bradley_> help meh
[19:39] <theadmin> bradley_: There's "fancontrol"
[19:39] <theadmin> bradley_: :P
[19:39] <bradley_> wat
[19:39] <Gundarr> Functionality > Philosophy for new beginners.  For Ubuntu regulars and power users, then Philosophy > Functionality.  Sadly, people still need proprietary software.  But if you looked at my first post, you would recognize I am requesting help for an OPEN-source package.
[19:39] <bradley_> how would i install tjis on my laptop?
[19:39] <bradley_> *this
[19:40] <theadmin> Gundarr: You're suggesting Oracle Java, even if it's usually completely unnecessary for most apps.
[19:40] <theadmin> bradley_: sudo apt-get install fancontrol
[19:40] <bradley_> thanks
[19:40] <jhutchins_wk> bradley_: You probably want to install cpufrequtils and set a CPU policy.
[19:41] <bradley_> and how would i use said progams. sorry im a complete noob
[19:41] <jhutchins_wk> Direct fan control is somewhat unusual.
[19:41] <theadmin> bradley_: Now that is beyond me -- usually Ubuntu plays nicely with my fans by itself...
[19:41] <theadmin> I just know what exists but...
[19:41] <jhutchins_wk> bradley_: The manpage explains how to install & use a policy.
[19:41] <stephenjudkins> Gundarr: since Java 7, openjdk and oracle JDK are basically equivalent
[19:41] <bradley_> well my laptop keeps over heating and it never over heated on vista and ive had it for 6 years now
[19:42] <bradley_> ok thanks
[19:42] <stephenjudkins> it's possible that there are later, faster releases available for one or the other
[19:42] <Gundarr> theadmin:  I recommend Oracle Java 7 because it can be used as a web browser plugin.  Some websites won't fully work unless you have Oracle's version of Java.  For instance, players of the popular web-based MMORPG game "RuneScape" cannot play the game using OpenJDK.
[19:43] <theadmin> Gundarr: Sure it can, I tried and it ran
[19:43] <theadmin> Gundarr: You need "icedtea-6-plugin" or "icedtea-7-plugin"
[19:43] <theadmin> Gundarr: Now I'm no runescape fan but that's another deal
[19:44]  * wilee-nilee thinks we all live in glass houses
[19:46] <jhutchins_wk> bradley_: I had one that ran the CPU at full speed all the time until I throttled it.  Practicall burned my leg!
[19:46] <Gundarr> okay, well users will do as they please.  if you prefer the open-source plugins over the proprietary browser plugins, then I hope  they make you happy.  =)
[19:46] <theadmin> Now Flash is another deal, the opensource alternative (gnash) is practically unusable :(
[19:46] <Gundarr> But does anyone have an answer for my xserver question?
[19:47] <theadmin> Gundarr: My main argument for OpenJDK is "it's in the repos", actually (which makes it a whole load easier to install)
[19:48] <theadmin> Gundarr: As for AMD drivers, I would suggest against upgrading, I had a 6xxx card and it ain't working with propretiary drivers on Quantal
[19:48] <theadmin> Gundarr: I'm not sure the -quantal-lts packages are the same thing, though, but...
[19:49] <theadmin> Well, now I'm a happy nvidia user
[19:49] <SonikkuAmerica> theadmin: The X.org stuff for LTS?
[19:49] <Gundarr> yeah, but that's the problem:  it's a notebook and not a desktop computer, so i'd have to buy another laptop to upgrade my AMD graphics card.
[19:50] <kurcinavelika> i want to backyp syste what is command to exclude mounted partrition
[19:50] <SonikkuAmerica> !info xserver-xorg-lts-quantal
[19:50] <theadmin> kurcinavelika: Mounted partitions are just folders...
[19:50] <SonikkuAmerica> !info xserver-xorg-lts-quantal precise
[19:50] <kurcinavelika> tar cvpzf backup.tgz --exclude=/proc --exclude=/lost+found --exclude=/backup.tgz --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/sys /
[19:50] <Gundarr> You have to click on "Precise Proposed" box in your Software Sources settings app to see these "xserver-xorg-video-xxxxxxx-lts-quantal" packages
[19:50] <theadmin> Gundarr: Yeah, I got a new laptop too, old one broke
[19:50] <kurcinavelika> theadmin:  but what is string or path for mounted partrition
[19:51] <theadmin> kurcinavelika: Eh, check the output of "mount"
[19:51] <theadmin> kurcinavelika: Or cat /proc/mounts
[19:51] <Gundarr> you need to type "xserver-xorg-video-radeon-lts-quantal"
[19:52] <kurcinavelika> theadmin:  /dev/sda2 /media/MASA1
[19:52] <theadmin> kurcinavelika: Then /media/MASA1 is what you need to exclude
[19:52] <kurcinavelika> theadmin:  ok ty nice dude
[19:53] <SonikkuAmerica> Gundarr: There is also the generic package, of course.
[19:54] <Nicholas777> where can find ubuntu software
[19:54] <SonikkuAmerica> Nicholas777: In Software Center, in Synaptic, and on the Web
[19:55] <theadmin> Nicholas777: The Software Centre is the best place. Search there first.
[19:56] <Gundarr> Nicholas777:  If you want to add software and apps OUTSIDE of the Ubuntu Repositories (the apps found in the Ubuntu Software Center), then you will need to use the command line and use 'apt-get' command.  But be careful when adding PPA's to your system.
[19:57] <SonikkuAmerica> !ppa
[19:57] <fbi__> hey guys, can I easily change 32G   0% /run/shm? thats way too big?
[19:57] <theadmin> Gundarr: The command-line isn't strictly necessary, you can add third-party repos via the Software Centre's settings.
[19:57] <SonikkuAmerica> fbi__: Can I have some !details with that? What does this relate to?
[19:58] <fbi__> SonikkuAmerica: seems when i setup ubuntu 12.04 I just set AUTO to everything dnow my tiny 100GB drive has 32GB set aside to /run/shm?
[19:59] <Gundarr> theadmin:   I agree, but some apps (like Jupiter and others) require the use of the command line.  (Which is ironic for me to say because I am a strong believer in guiding new Ubuntu users away from the command line as much as possible until they feel comfortable and safe and ready for a new challenge.)
[19:59] <fbi__> SonikkuAmerica: and 32GB to /run?
[19:59] <SonikkuAmerica> fbi__: (You call that tiny? Wait 'till you see my 80GB drive I run 12.10 on.)
[19:59] <fbi__> lol
[19:59] <SonikkuAmerica> fbi__: But 32 GB to a /run folder doesn't sound right,.
[20:00] <SonikkuAmerica> fbi__: (Ubuntu !Studio and the whole 9 yards, with Unity on top)
[20:00] <fbi__> any easy fix without reinstall?
[20:00] <SonikkuAmerica> fbi__: Do you have any idea what that /run directory is about? (Community Shout-out!)
[20:02] <fbi__> SonikkuAmerica: no..
[20:02] <SonikkuAmerica> fbi__: Did you install anything big?
[20:02] <fbi__> no
[20:02] <Smilo> Does anyone know how to fix the apport_intel gupu error
[20:03] <Smilo> The fixes on the forums dont seem to work for me :(
[20:03] <SonikkuAmerica> fbi__: Did another Linux-based OS put it there?
[20:03] <Smilo> anyone?
[20:03] <erlend> good evening from norway.. anyone here good with file/folder permissions?
[20:03] <SonikkuAmerica> !anyone | Smilo
[20:03] <lotuspsychje> Smilo: what does that error do?
[20:04] <SonikkuAmerica> erlend: What about them?
[20:04] <Ether_Man> Im trying to setup a Kolab server on a 12.04 system...  I've added "deb http://mirror.kolabsys.com/pub/ubuntu/kolab-3.0/ precise release updates" and the deb-src to the apt sources, but after running apt-get update, apt-get install kolab still fails to find the kolab package...  apt-cache search kolab, does tell me there's a kolabd package however. Anyone know if the name has simply changed between luvid and precise or is this another pack
[20:04] <Ether_Man> age and it's something else Im missing?
[20:04] <erlend> SonikkuAmerica: Hey. Trying to mount smb shares from NAS and make them available to all users on my ubuntu server
[20:04] <lotuspsychje> Ether_Man: some pp adding need key adding too
[20:05] <SonikkuAmerica> !info kolab precise | Ether_Man
[20:05] <SonikkuAmerica> !info kolab lucid | Ether_Man
[20:05] <Ether_Man> SonikkuAmerica, there are no kolab packages in the official repos... They are in kolab's own repos.
[20:05] <SonikkuAmerica> !ppa | Ether_Man: Oh, trying to install it from a PPA?
[20:06] <SonikkuAmerica> You're on your own with PPAs.
[20:06] <fbi__> SonikkuAmerica: I doubt another linux system did, all fresh everyting but maybe? any easy fix?
[20:06] <Smilo> The error just gives an infinite loop of system errors and then usually crashes unity
[20:06] <erlend> SonikkuAmerica: worked on my old 10.4 server, but can't seem to make it work in 12.4lts, did they change something between these versions?
[20:07] <SonikkuAmerica> fbi__: I can't think of one... this is Precise (12.04 LTS) right?
[20:07] <fbi__> yes.
[20:07] <SonikkuAmerica> erlend: What package are you referring to?
[20:07] <lotuspsychje> Smilo: you installed ubuntu clean or upgrade?
[20:09] <erlend> SonikkuAmerica: assuming smbfs, but could be a configuration issue of course. moved to new hardare and reinstalled, unable to make it work with config files from old server
[20:09] <ClonerBuntu> hey guys i've spent the last few days getting my system to how i want it +/- some packages, themes etc
[20:09] <SonikkuAmerica> !info smbfs lucid
[20:09] <SonikkuAmerica> !info smbfs precise
[20:09] <ClonerBuntu> can i just simply boot from USB with CloneZilla and image it to a 16gb USB drive so that i have my OS with me
[20:09] <lotuspsychje> Smilo: desktop? laptop? brand?
[20:10] <SonikkuAmerica> erlend: smbfs is now in cifs-utils
[20:10] <SonikkuAmerica> Try installing
[20:10] <SonikkuAmerica> that
[20:11] <SonikkuAmerica> erlend: [ sudo apt-get install cifs-utils ] and try using smbfs again.
[20:11] <lotuspsychje> Smilo: desktop freeze completly too? or only unity crash?
[20:11] <erlend> SonikkuAmerica: Thanks, but "cifs-utils is already the newest version"
[20:11] <oday> hello.. i use ubuntu 12.10 - how do i run task/kill manager?
[20:11] <SonikkuAmerica> fbi__: You could try a reinstall
[20:12] <liox_> hi
[20:12] <fbi__> lol anything but a reinstall :)
[20:12] <SonikkuAmerica> oday: It's in System Monitor
[20:12] <oday> SonikkuAmerica, ty.
[20:12] <ClonerBuntu> oday: run "top" in terminal
[20:12] <SonikkuAmerica> oday: Or what ClonerBuntu
[20:12] <SonikkuAmerica> said
[20:12] <liox_> I isntall samba4 on ubuntu 12.04 now not work conection
[20:12] <liox_> helpme
[20:12] <gustav> Is anyone here in Sweden and not on Bredbandsbolaget?
[20:12] <theadmin> ClonerBuntu: Don't confuse new users with command-line stuff
[20:12] <ClonerBuntu> sorry dude
[20:12] <gustav> I need help with a traceroute.
[20:12] <liox_> my clients is mac and windows
[20:13] <lotuspsychje> Smilo: forum says upgrade to 13.04 fixed this bug
[20:13] <liox_> is now not working
[20:13] <SonikkuAmerica> lotuspsychje: 13.04 is still a +1 release.
[20:13] <erlend> gustav: I'm in Norway if it's any help?
[20:14] <gustav> erlend: Yeah, we can try. Can you do a traceroute nyvell.se and pastebin it?
[20:14] <Ether_Man> gustav, use http://lg.he.net/ for that... They have nodes in the TeliaSonera network in Stockholm
[20:14] <oday> SonikkuAmerica, the problem is i can't run firefox, it says it's already running and i don't have any running.
[20:14] <lotuspsychje> SonikkuAmerica: i know that, but some machines/hardware dont like some distros
[20:14] <gustav> Ether_Man: Ah. Hm.
[20:15] <SonikkuAmerica> oday: Try running [ ps ax | grep firefox ] in a terminal
[20:16] <SonikkuAmerica> oday: Look for the pid (4- or 5-digit # on the left) identified with firefox and then type [ kill $PID ]
[20:16] <SonikkuAmerica> oday: ($PID is the pid you found.)
[20:16] <theadmin> SonikkuAmerica: That's incredibly complicated, just "killall firefox"
[20:16] <theadmin> oday:
[20:16] <SonikkuAmerica> theadmin: Sorry, got taught that one in college :)
[20:17] <oday> SonikkuAmerica,  u r a genius :DD
[20:17] <erlend> gustav: http://pastebin.com/BVwjmHqf
[20:17] <theadmin> SonikkuAmerica: Also, ps | grep? There's pgrep for process search
[20:17] <theadmin> SonikkuAmerica: Oh, colledge... Hamsters
[20:17] <SonikkuAmerica> theadmin: True, that only dumps pids associated with whatever comes after pgrep
[20:18] <jhutchins_wk> SonikkuAmerica: kill -<signal> <pid>
[20:18] <gustav> erlend: LOL. Interesting. The same hosts cause the same problems from my location and yours to nyvell.se... Highest ping add is nyk-bb1-link.telia.net.
[20:18] <jhutchins_wk> There are also pkill & killall
[20:18] <theadmin> SonikkuAmerica: Just don't accidentally use killall on a Solaris system :P
[20:18] <oday> cool.. ty all :DDDD
[20:18] <jhutchins_wk> theadmin: Let me guess it kills ... all.
[20:18] <SonikkuAmerica> jhutchins_wk: What's the default signal for "kill <pid>" with no sigs attached?
[20:18] <lotuspsychje> lol
[20:19] <theadmin> jhutchins_wk: Pretty much yes
[20:19] <gustav> What is nyk-bb1-link.telia.net ? Anyone know? New York? Can I change the route a packet takes?
[20:19] <SonikkuAmerica> oday: Use theadmin 's suggestion though, it's just one command.
[20:19] <jhutchins_wk> SonikkuAmerica: On versions I've used, nothing.
[20:19] <oday> Yeah, i got it :DD still ty all :D
[20:19] <erlend> gustav: well, most Norwegian traffic goes through Sweden anyway I guess..
[20:19] <SonikkuAmerica> XD
[20:19] <jhutchins_wk> SonikkuAmerica: pkill defaults to 15.
[20:19] <theadmin> SonikkuAmerica:  The  default  signal  for  kill is TERM.
[20:19] <gustav> erlend: Oh no. You're being logged. xD
[20:19] <betrayd> gustav you might break the internets
[20:19] <gustav> betrayd: No problem.
[20:19] <SonikkuAmerica> !ot | gustav, betrayd
[20:20] <gustav> betrayd: OMG RUN
[20:20] <SonikkuAmerica> gustav, betrayd: And don't stop till you reach #ubuntu-offtopic ... kthx :)
[20:21]  * jhutchins_wk is showing his age again, even RH defaults to TERM now.
[20:21] <erlend> so SonikkuAmerica, what would be the proper way to let low previlege users access my smb mounts?
[20:22] <SonikkuAmerica> erlend: Unless I miss my guess, send them into their own group and give them access permissions.
[20:23] <erlend> SonikkuAmerica: ah, smbusers grp. Got links to a good and trustworthy howto on that?
[20:24] <SonikkuAmerica> erlend: Couldn't tell you... search around on www.samba.org maybe?
[20:25] <erlend> SonikkuAmerica: k, thx
[20:25] <SonikkuAmerica> erlend: Any time.
[20:27] <jhutchins_wk> ACL on Samba is usually controlled by smb.conf
[20:27] <jhutchins_wk> Yes, groups are the way to go.
[20:31] <theadmin> My Right Alt key is supposed to act as a switch to the third layer, for instance, right Alt + U = Ŭ. But on some text entry fields, for instance in Nautilus when searching for files (you can type a first few letters and it should come up), this instead cleans the field. What gives?
[20:33] <oday> guys, ubuntu 12.10.. i want to install mangler.. on their site there is a download of 2 files. One is mangler-1.2.5.tar.gz the second one is mangler-1.2.5.tar.bz2  . What should i download and how do i install it?
[20:34] <theadmin> oday: As mentioned above, searc hthe Software Center first.
[20:34] <genii-around> !info mangler
[20:34] <theadmin> oday: It's there.
[20:35] <jakey1> is this the correct way to write an equation in c
[20:35] <jakey1> f = (a − b)+(x − y);
[20:35] <theadmin> oday: Click to install: http://apt.ubuntu.com/p/mangler
[20:35] <theadmin> jakey1: Yes, given that a, b, x, y have values and f is declared.
[20:36] <jakey1> theadmin, it soens compile for me
[20:36] <jakey1> *doesnt
[20:36] <theadmin> jakey1: Then the error is elsewhere.
[20:36] <oday> theadmin, thank you very much
[20:37] <oday> theadmin, the problem is that in software center isn't the last version :/
[20:37] <theadmin> oday: Last version isn't always the best. Ubuntu aims for stability. The version in SC is known to work well with your version of Ubuntu.
[20:37] <theadmin> oday: So use that.
[20:37] <oday> got it
[20:37] <oday> ty
[20:38] <jakey1> theadmin, http://pastebin.com/kw5jHxUu
[20:39] <theadmin> jakey1: Err... "−" is not "-", it's a long dash
[20:39] <theadmin> jakey1: I don't know how you even got that sign
[20:40] <jakey1> theadmin, thank alot
[20:40] <jakey1> theadmin, I copied and pasted from somewhere
[20:40] <theadmin> jakey1: Ah, makes sense then :/
[20:41] <theadmin> jakey1: After that's fixed, it compiles fine and prints 9
[20:41] <jakey1> yep
[20:41] <jakey1> thanks for that
[20:44] <jakey1> theadmin, do you know why this doesn’t compile http://pastebin.com/Y8mXMKWL
[20:45] <SonikkuAmerica> jakey1: You're performing main on void?
[20:45] <trism> jakey1: missing a paren
[20:45] <theadmin> jakey1: Missing ) on line 11
[20:45] <SonikkuAmerica> That too.
[20:45] <theadmin> jakey1: Use a sane text editor
[20:46] <theadmin> SonikkuAmerica: return_type function_name(void) is a C notation for a function without arguments
[20:46] <ultracomb> hi. i-ve got a probllem> trying to copy my filesystempartition with command dd from terminal my system freezed, so I rebooted. But at the restart ubuntu 12.10  will fail to start and the filesystem is recognized as swap. Any help there_
[20:46] <MartynKeigher2> hey all...im having a massive issue with ftp permissions today. can someone help?
[20:46] <jakey1> theadmin, thanks for your help
[20:46] <SonikkuAmerica> theadmin: I see. Why is that not the same as a ()?
[20:47] <theadmin> SonikkuAmerica: Not sure, ask whoever designed C :P
[20:47] <SonikkuAmerica> theadmin: I'll ask Juan Soulié
[20:47] <sergio> hola
[20:47] <theadmin> SonikkuAmerica: I'm more of a Python person myself
[20:47] <SonikkuAmerica> theadmin: C++ in college (lol)
[20:47] <sergio> hay alguien español
[20:47] <SonikkuAmerica> !es | sergio
[20:48] <MartynKeigher2> i have a group webadmins as owners of the folder and memeber of that group is webmaster.
[20:48] <MartynKeigher2> i can ftp to my server as webmaster but cannot upload changes to files.
[20:49] <MartynKeigher2> the chmod is set to 755 and i dont want to tset it to 777
[20:50] <jrib> MartynKeigher2: "the chmod" of what?
[20:50] <MartynKeigher2> IF i set it to 777, then i CAN change the file via ftp. but i dont want to leave it as 777
[20:50] <MartynKeigher2> var/www/
[20:50] <jrib> MartynKeigher2: do you understand what each digit represents?
[20:50] <MartynKeigher2> so im setting it to 777 so i can make changes, then back to 755 once done
[20:51] <MartynKeigher2> i am learning from this... http://codex.wordpress.org/Changing_File_Permissions
[20:51] <MonkeyDust> MartynKeigher2  maybe you have to submit changes as a different user
[20:51] <jrib> MartynKeigher2: ok, so what does the document say each digit represents?
[20:51] <MonkeyDust> MartynKeigher2  as you say: 777 is not a good idea
[20:52] <liox_> my log.smb for samba 4 is  ldb: module dirsync initialization failed : No such object
[20:52] <MartynKeigher2> is 774 a good idea?
[20:52] <liox_> what fix this
[20:52] <jrib> !permissions > MartynKeigher2
[20:52] <liox_> ../lib/ldb-samba/ldb_wrap.c:68
[20:54] <MartynKeigher2> im going with 774.\
[20:54] <MartynKeigher2> that should be adequate.
[20:55] <jrib> MartynKeigher2: you probably want 775
[20:55] <ultracomb> help! filesystem has changed from ext4 to swap!!! any solution?
[20:55] <MartynKeigher2> not 755 ??
[20:56] <jrib> MartynKeigher2: I suggest you read the link ubottu sent you to understand what each digit represents
[20:58] <MartynKeigher2> k thanks
[21:00] <MartynKeigher2> http://www.onlineconversion.com/html_chmod_calculator.htm
[21:00] <MartynKeigher2> this really helps! :) now i get the 4, 2, 1 deal :)
[21:05] <gaussblurinc_> hello! how to restore after rm? I delete my directory with projects, oh :\
[21:06] <SonikkuAmerica> gaussblurinc_: Write a good eulogy and hold a memorial service.
[21:06] <SonikkuAmerica> gaussblurinc_: There's no way to, AFAIK
[21:06] <betrayd> unless you made backups
[21:07] <MonkeyDust> !recover
[21:14] <gaussblurinc_> betrayd: strange, crontab -l gave me this:  0 5 * * 1 tar -zcf /var/backups/home.tgz /home/, but no backups, uh :\
[21:15] <betrayd> no such file in /home? gaussblurinc_ ?
[21:16] <gaussblurinc_> betrayd: yeah :\
[21:18] <glebihan> gaussblurinc_, in crontab, you need to provide full paths to executables, ie /bin/tar instead of just tar
[21:19] <gaussblurinc_> glebihan: uhh, ok. thank god, this is not my work laptop
[21:21] <MonkeyDust> my system is FAST with "tmpfs /tmp tmpfs defaults,noexec,nosuid 0 0" in fstab
[21:22] <liox_> how to fix samba4 ldb error ?
[21:24] <chunkyhead> can i remove nautilus and instead instal dolphin on ubuntu 12.04?
[21:25] <kvothetech> chunkyhead: yes
[21:25] <chunkyhead> how
[21:26] <kvothetech> chunkyhead: apt-get remove nautilus apt-get install dolphin
[21:26] <theadmin> chunkyhead: Software Center is at your service, just look up nautilus and remove it, then look up dolphin and install it
[21:28] <chunkyhead> dolphin has a better interface or nautilus?
[21:28] <chunkyhead> theadmin, kvothetech ^
[21:28] <theadmin> chunkyhead: I say mc, lol
[21:29] <MonkeyDust> chunkyhead  depends on what you prefer
[21:29] <betrayd> mc!
[21:29] <Biomechd> hey guys, i know this isn't #blender (which i'm in at the same time), but what's going on here? is this just a graphics card issue? http://www.pasteall.org/41628
[21:29] <chunkyhead> mc=?
[21:29] <chunkyhead> theadmin, ^
[21:29] <chunkyhead> well then i'd just ahve to find out :P MonkeyDust
[21:29] <betrayd> midnight commander
[21:30] <theadmin> chunkyhead: The Midnight Commander, it's an orthodox filemanager (dual-pane, similar to Norton Commander, Total Commander or DOS Navigator). But that's my own weird preference.
[21:30] <chunkyhead> can you send me screenies?
[21:30] <chunkyhead> theadmin, ^
[21:30] <theadmin> Eh what the heck, why not
[21:31] <chunkyhead> i want a cool looking explorer. nautilus according to my taste it a little cheap..ish
[21:32] <chunkyhead> PS: theadmin i'm waiting for your screenshots :)
[21:32] <Biomechd> anyone?
[21:32] <chunkyhead> what's up Biomechd
[21:33] <theadmin> chunkyhead: Random screens from it on my system: http://imgur.com/a/y3B8D
[21:33] <theadmin> chunkyhead: Dunno if that qualifies as "cool looking".
[21:34] <chunkyhead> theadmin, man you love cli so much? i was looking for more of a GUI explorer
[21:34] <theadmin> chunkyhead: Nautilus, Dolphin and Thunar then, the three most popular ones. Also pcmanfm
[21:35] <chunkyhead> unpacking dolphin now :)
[21:35] <chunkyhead> can they be used all at once? like w/o removing nautilus can i used dolphin
[21:35] <theadmin> chunkyhead: Sure
[21:35] <Biomechd> chunkyhead: is this just a graphics card issue? i'm getting this issue even when i append objects to a separate file. if my graphics card is the cause of this, it's like my hardware saying "i don't like that shape. i'm going to force-quit blender the next time you select something"
[21:35] <Biomechd> http://www.pasteall.org/41628
[21:36] <StFS> Hi. I just installed ubuntu 13.04 on a second HDD but I can't boot it. At first I just got the GRUB prompt but then I managed to boot into my old setup (on my first hdd) and ran grub-install and now I'm getting some message about it not finding the HDD with that entry (and gives the UUID for the second hdd). Anyone have a clue?
[21:36] <theadmin> !raring | StFS
[21:36] <betrayd> but Biomechd you're able to get to X desktop no?
[21:38] <chunkyhead> no idea mate :9 Biomechd
[21:39] <nerder> hello, i had some resolution problem when i use wine
[21:39] <chunkyhead> thunar is almost the same as nautilus O.o theadmin
[21:39] <SonikkuAmerica> Almost, but not quite.
[21:41] <chunkyhead> SonikkuAmerica, how
[21:41] <SonikkuAmerica> It's lighter.
[21:41] <chunkyhead> how to update a single package from cli?
[21:42] <MonkeyDust> nerder  #winehq
[21:42] <nerder> thx
[21:42] <OerHeks> chunkyhead, why would you risc broken dependencies?
[21:42] <chunkyhead> just learning mate
[21:43] <Poisoned_Dragon> lulz risc
[21:43] <chunkyhead> anyways cya guys later it's 4am in the morning here :| gtg get some sleep. exam tomorrow!
[21:43] <Poisoned_Dragon> risc is good
[21:44] <OerHeks> i'd love to play online, if there is a Ubuntu version :-)
[21:44] <Poisoned_Dragon> Oh, you meant risk: the game
[21:44] <Poisoned_Dragon> I was on a whole other planet
[21:47] <Fillipe> Hi guys, does anyone know how to add a PHP5 repository?
[21:48] <oday> ubuntu 12.10 - my video files won't open. i got some videos program installed and vlc.. it starts vlc but no video is runing.
[21:48] <Stameni> if i install xubuntu, there will be no adds from amazon and that kind of stuff and still i`ll use evry comoditi that ubuntu offers ( aside from renowd interface ) ?
[21:50] <nerder> sorry guys, i know that my problem is with wine, but right now i have the resolution problem even if wine is closed
[21:50] <Jordan_U> Stameni: Yes, XUbuntu doesn't have any Amazon lense analog, and uses the same repositories as any other Ubuntu flavor, though if that's really all you're worried about then it's much easier to just uninstall the Amazon Lense.
[21:50] <nerder> i dnt know how can i reset to the default configuration
[21:50] <Persona24> Hello, I just downloaded Synergy and it's no where to be found in my programs
[21:50] <oday> any one?
[21:50] <OerHeks> oday, did you install restricted extras and run sudo apt-get install libdvdread4 && sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh ?
[21:51] <OerHeks> !dvd
[21:51] <Jordan_U> !shopping | Stameni
[21:51] <Um_cara_qualquer> excuse me, how can i delete the upper tool bar of ubuntu 12.10?
[21:51] <OerHeks> oday unless they are blueray movies.
[21:52] <wilee-nilee> Um_cara_qualquer, You can't I believe it is part of the desktop.
[21:54] <Biomechd> wilee-nilee, Um_cara_qualquer, i think you can at least move it to the bottom or side of the screen, and you can tell it to autohide if you find the right setting somewhere.
[21:54] <Stameni> Jordan_U, thank you
[21:54] <oday> OerHeks, it's hd file.. some other avi file vlc plays, but not this hd format. Samarityanin.2012.P1.HDRip.1400MBt.avi
[21:54] <nerder> when i try to reset my resolution to the one that i had before the monitor become totally black and i have to reboot
[21:54] <Jordan_U> Stameni: You're welcome.
[21:54] <oday> wilee-nilee, hi)
[21:54] <wilee-nilee> Biomechd, Not in unity
[21:54] <OerHeks> oday for hd or blueray i do not know the solution
[21:54] <Biomechd> wilee-nilee: well that's just lame, then.
[21:54] <nerder> but i saw that when i'm in the user choise page the resolution is correct
[21:54] <Um_cara_qualquer> hmmm
[21:54] <SonikkuAmerica> nerder: What are you using to reset you res?
[21:55] <SonikkuAmerica> *your
[21:55] <nerder> just System-Monitor-
[21:55] <oday> anyone here knows a solution for hd files?
[21:55] <nerder> just System-Monitor-Resolution-1280x1240 (supported for sure)
[21:56] <j-4> Hi all, I have a tricky partitioning problem
[21:57] <nerder> at the moment my resoluton is setted up on 800x600
[21:57] <mirco25> ciao a tutti
[21:57] <mirco25> !lista
[21:57] <nerder> italiani xD
[21:58] <j-4> My boot partition is too small, and I need to resize it, but my swap partition is blocking it from expanding.  Here is a screenshot: http://i.imm.io/13Hkf.png
[21:58] <nerder> SonikkuAmerica, u still alive?
[21:58] <SonikkuAmerica> Yeah.
[21:59] <OerHeks> oday found this one, not sure this manual still works, or the notes at the bottom > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/BluRayAndHDDVD
[21:59] <SonikkuAmerica> nerder: What did you want to change it to?
[21:59] <Jordan_U> j-4: Why do you have a separate /boot/ partition in the first place?
[21:59] <oday> OerHeks, thanks, i'll check it out.
[22:00] <nerder> i'm just starting wine, for play a MMORPG game, this game is able to configure the resolution before you start playing
[22:00] <j-4> jordan_u efficiency i guess?
[22:00] <nerder> if i try to put that game in full screen mode, the resolution become to 800x600
[22:00] <j-4> my home is also on a different drive
[22:00] <j-4> but that isnt the prob
[22:00] <nerder> and right now i cant do nothing for reset to the default settings
[22:00] <Jordan_U> j-4: Having a separate /boot/ partition doesn't make anything more efficient.
[22:01] <SonikkuAmerica> nerder: Are there in-game settings to change that.
[22:01] <j-4> jordan_u
[22:01] <j-4> i followed a guide.
[22:01] <nerder> even if i try to change from 800x600 to 832x624 the monitor become black
[22:01] <nerder> but right now everything is closed, wine as well
[22:01] <nerder> i thik
[22:01] <SonikkuAmerica> nerder: What is listed in System Settings > Displays?
[22:02] <Jordan_U> j-4: I'd say copy your /boot/ contents over to the /boot/ directory on your root partition, remove the /boot/ entry from your fstab, re-install grub (grub-install /dev/sdX && update-grub) then get rid of your /boot/ partition entirely.
[22:02] <Jordan_U> j-4: Sounds like it was a poor guide to follow.
[22:03] <nerder> just my display Samsung 17'' , the list of the possible resolution etc
[22:04] <j-4> jordan_u this all started from a prompt telling me that my /boot/ was running low on disk space. is this true? i thought 300mb was enoug
[22:04] <wilee-nilee> j-4, The full partition looks like the root partition the one marked boot is fine.
[22:05] <oday> Is there a pastebin application for ubunt?
[22:05] <wilee-nilee> !pastebinit | oday
[22:05] <KM0201> !info pastebinit | oday
[22:05] <j-4> jordan_u well in that case ill just enlarge my root partition lol
[22:06] <j-4> since nothing is blocking it. and ill worry about the boot partition later
[22:06] <nerder> this one is my ps aux: http://pastebin.com/MUXAA1dv
[22:06] <KM0201> guess i don't type as fast as i used to.. :)
[22:06] <j-4> jordan_u thanks for the help
[22:06] <nerder> should be helpful
[22:10] <nerder> what happend?
[22:10] <ke5pcv> wow
[22:10] <nerder> lol i'm still alive xD
[22:17] <nerder> anyway nobody could help me to reset the resolution correcrtly?
[22:19] <Poisoned_Dragon> grab a bag of popcorn, and screen cap the fun
[22:20] <ZrZeRenato> hi every one, good evening
[22:20] <Seihava> eveninng
[22:20] <nerder> loool
[22:20] <nerder> the party is over xD
[22:20] <ZrZeRenato> my skype just doesnt work, microphone, and the icon doesnt show on system tray
[22:21] <ZrZeRenato> can any one help please?
[22:21] <levolent> back
[22:21] <nerder> lol
[22:21] <nerder> was amazing event LOL
[22:22] <nerder> mass quitting
[22:22] <nerder> and mass rejoin
[22:22] <ZrZeRenato> Seihava: q :
[22:23] <levolent> anyone know how to get wifi working after the !broadcom guide fails?
[22:23] <nerder> !wine
[22:24] <SonikkuAmerica> levolent: What's your Broadcom WiFi model?
[22:24] <levolent> i was told i need to do something with Firmware Cutter but I have no idea what.
[22:24] <levolent> b43
[22:24] <nerder> i have the same one, witch is your problem?
[22:24] <levolent> 0b:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN [14e4:4311] (rev 01)
[22:24] <SonikkuAmerica> levolent: You can use firmware-b43-installer now.
[22:24] <levolent> already tried that
[22:25] <levolent> its not showing any SSID and its resting on top a router
[22:26] <levolent> so what the b43 firmware-installer and !broadcom both fail, what then?
[22:27] <levolent> when*
[22:27] <altin> guys I installed bumblebee drivers and my screen won't suspend now :S
[22:27] <SonikkuAmerica> levolent: Good question... did the firmware-b43-installer fail due to "Unable to locate package"?
[22:27] <levolent> I ran "sudo apt-get update" then
[22:27] <levolent> sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer
[22:28] <levolent> sudo apt-get remove bcmwl-kernel-source" and rebooted
[22:28] <levolent> and nothing
[22:28] <levolent> didn't see any errors at all, including the one you asked about
[22:28] <levolent> I do still have 6 firmware warns tho
[22:28] <ZrZeRenato> no bother, i just fix skype issues by reinstalling it.
[22:28] <SonikkuAmerica> levolent: Do you have an Internet (hard) connection on the computer with the Broadcom card?
[22:29] <Kyzz[Mobile]> Is there a reason after a certain amount of time I can no longer connect to websites with my Wifi?  It's still connected but just is an awful connection
[22:29] <levolent> yea
[22:29] <levolent> thats how i am talking here
[22:29] <Nisstyre-laptop> Kyzz[Mobile]: there could be a multitude of reasons. It could even be because you have an aquarium.
[22:30] <levolent> http://pastebin.com/tbjwHMmN
[22:30] <levolent> theres a list of my current firmware warns and bugs
[22:30] <Kyzz[Mobile]> Nisstyre-laptop: I'm on university internet and I didn't have issues on a Windows OS...
[22:30] <levolent> it was 11 originally then ActionParsnip got it down to 6
[22:30] <ZrZeRenato> another question... i read once ago, about wireless connections issues, and i see my internet is not working nice, is there any trick to deal with that?
[22:30] <Nisstyre-laptop> Kyzz[Mobile]: well they aren't using the same drivers
[22:30] <SonikkuAmerica> levolent: You ditched bcmwl-kernel-source? You shouldn't have...
[22:30] <Nisstyre-laptop> so there's one variable
[22:30] <levolent> Harris came alone and wasted about half hour and brought it up to 9
[22:30] <Kyzz[Mobile]> Nisstyre-laptop: What do you mean by that exactly?
[22:31] <levolent> I was just following ActionParsnips instruction here
[22:31] <SonikkuAmerica> Nisstyre-laptop: An aquarium... somewho I doubt that. :)
[22:31] <nerder> SonikkuAmerica, could you help me?
[22:31] <levolent> so what do I do now?
[22:31] <nerder> i dnt know how can i do
[22:31] <SonikkuAmerica> nerder: Do what again? (It's been about an hour)
[22:32] <SonikkuAmerica> levolent: reinstall the bcmwl-kernel-source as well as the firmware-b43-installer
[22:33] <levolent> tried guessing 2 commands in terminal and neither worked
[22:33] <Nisstyre-laptop> Kyzz[Mobile]: I mean windows is not using the same drivers as Linux (unless you're using ndiswrapper, but you should not be)
[22:33] <levolent> sudo apt-get firmware-b43-installer   and  sudo apt-get b43-firmware-installer both failed
[22:34] <SonikkuAmerica> levolent: I know why... because the command is [ sudo apt-get install ], not just [ sudo apt-get ].
[22:34] <JJRambo> Hey, I've got a simple research assignment where I compare Windows/Ubuntu. Is there a way for me to check which security utilites Ubuntu has.
[22:34] <SonikkuAmerica> levolent: I assume you're using Precise or Quantal?
[22:34] <levolent> ubuntu and terminal
[22:34] <JJRambo> For example, Windows has windows defender and Windows Firewall.
[22:34] <Nisstyre-laptop> JJRambo: define "security utilities"
[22:34] <Kyzz[Mobile]> Nisstyre-laptop: Any suggestions then?
[22:35] <Nisstyre-laptop> Kyzz[Mobile]: try a different driver
[22:35] <levolent> said i already have the newest vs
[22:35] <Nisstyre-laptop> or try tweaking your current one
[22:35] <JJRambo> Does Ubuntu have something similar to that or is security configured in a completely different way?
[22:35] <Nisstyre-laptop> JJRambo: Linux has iptables which is a firewall
[22:35] <JJRambo> Nisstyre-laptop: Like how Windows has an inbuilt anti-virus called Defender and firewall.
[22:35] <threex5> I would like to know what version ID3 tags a given mp3 has. Is there a tool in Ubuntu where I can get that information
[22:35] <threex5> ?
[22:36] <levolent> k the bcmwl-kernel-source is installing
[22:36] <Kyzz[Mobile]> Nisstyre-laptop: I'm not even sure how to view my current driver.  (I'm new to Ubuntu)
[22:36] <JJRambo> Nisstyre-laptop: Thanks I'll check that out.
[22:36] <levolent> do i need to reboot after that?
[22:36] <Nisstyre-laptop> JJRambo: Unix systems generally don't have antivirus programs, and even when they do they check for windows viruses to avoid passing them on
[22:36] <levolent> cause he had me reboot after removing them
[22:36] <SonikkuAmerica> nerder: Are you sill there?
[22:36] <SonikkuAmerica> levolent: Can you please use my nick in your messages?
[22:36] <SonikkuAmerica> levolent: I can't see them without you doing so. kthx
[22:37] <JJRambo> Nisstyre-laptop: Thank you very much, I'll probably have to comment that the majority of viruses don't target linux
[22:37] <betrayd> threex5: maybe your music player has a id3 viewer
[22:37] <SonikkuAmerica> levolent: And the answer is no.
[22:37] <levolent> sonikkuamerica ok
[22:37] <RavenHursT> Hey everyone.. tying to add myself to the 'www-data' usergroup using the last command on this page => https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddUsersHowto  The command fires w/o any errors, but when I type "groups" I don't see www-data in the list.. what gives?
[22:37] <altin>  I installed bumblebee drivers and my screen won't suspend now :S]
[22:37] <threex5> thanks betrayd, I'm using nightingale, though, and it doesn
[22:37] <threex5> t
[22:38] <nerder> sorry SonikkuAmerica, yes i'm here
[22:38] <betrayd> threex5: not even as a plugin/addon?
[22:38] <Nisstyre-laptop> Kyzz[Mobile]: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[22:38] <SonikkuAmerica> nerder: Like I said before, I forgot what your issue was. I'm not a robot, after all.
[22:38] <RavenHursT> Am I doing something wrong?
[22:38] <ekajake> has anyone ever played lugaru?
[22:38] <threex5> betrayd, I don't believe so
[22:38] <RavenHursT> "sudo usermod -aG www-data myname"
[22:38] <nerder> LOL, sorry, you have a reason
[22:38] <SonikkuAmerica> !ot | ekajake:
[22:39] <nerder> anyway my problem is with resolution
[22:39] <SonikkuAmerica> !ot | ekajake
[22:39] <ekajake> Yeah I know, I need help.
[22:39] <SonikkuAmerica> nerder: Oh yes... (OH YES ABHI!)
[22:39] <levolent> sonikkuamerica http://pastebin.com/n3WG6hMx
[22:39] <SonikkuAmerica> nerder: Right... System Settings > Displays.
[22:39] <betrayd> threex5: i installed a id3v2 command line thing, but theres a dozen others that can give a fancy table
[22:39] <Gyorg> Hey guys, I installed 12.04 a few days ago and have been wondering why all of my web browsers seem to have trouble connecting to pages or take forever to load, the wireless drivers seem to be working fine and when I boot into Windows the pages load fine. The browsers I tried were Chromium and Firefox.
[22:40] <Gyorg> Any ideas?
[22:40] <levolent> were a few errors at the end and still no SSIDs showing, please advise sonikkuamerica
[22:40] <ekajake> http://postimg.org/image/7k3pfnss7/
[22:40] <threex5> betrayd, what one did you install? Which ones give a fancy table?
[22:40] <ekajake> I don't know where config.txt is.
[22:40] <ekajake> Or how to find it.
[22:40] <SonikkuAmerica> levolent: OK... it looks like it messed with your initrd... so run [ sudo update-grub ]
[22:40] <nerder> i already do that
[22:41] <betrayd> id3v2 command, search freecode.com for fancier ones with mp3tag or smthing
[22:41] <RavenHursT> Oh.. I'm using 12.04 Server LTS btw
[22:41] <levolent> after that, do i rerun the bcmwl?
[22:41] <SonikkuAmerica> nerder: (Please use my nick in your messages.) What resolutions does it display?
[22:41] <nerder> 800x600
[22:41] <JJRambo> Nisstyre-laptop: Does Ubuntu have plug and play for hardware compability.
[22:41] <mong> gyorg: DNS? firefox attempting to 'autodetect proxy settings'?
[22:41] <nerder> SonikkuAmerica, if i try yo change
[22:41] <levolent> sonikkuamerica after that, do i rerun the bcmwl?
[22:41] <Nisstyre-laptop> JJRambo: if you mean the ability to use firmware via usb, then yes
[22:41] <nerder> even for a bit
[22:42] <SonikkuAmerica> levolent: No. Reboot instead.
[22:42] <nerder> the display become totally black and i have to reboot
[22:42] <RavenHursT> Anyone here willing to help me with this user group problem?
[22:43] <levolent> sonikkuamerica http://pastebin.com/rgjEusPX rebooting now
[22:43] <JJRambo> Nisstyre-laptop: Ah, I meant as in would it be easy to install drivers for hardware automatically like Windows PnP where you can plug a peripheral and without user intervention, it will install the drivers automatically and work
[22:43] <SonikkuAmerica> nerder: It's probably because your driver only supports 8x6. (You're not following directions... please use my nick, thank you.)
[22:43] <Dr_Willis> JJRambo:  even easier for most devices
[22:43] <betrayd> RavenHursT: some1 did ^
[22:43] <Nisstyre-laptop> JJRambo: often the drivers are already in the kernel
[22:43] <Dr_Willis> JJRambo:  some video and wireless cards are the exception
[22:43] <Nisstyre-laptop> JJRambo: obviously it can't use windows firmware from USB devices though
[22:44] <nerder> SonikkuAmerica, i dnt think cause in the login screen everything is ok
[22:44] <JJRambo> Nisstyre-laptop, Dr_Willis: Ah, I see. Thanks.
[22:44] <RavenHursT> betrayd: they did?  I must've missed it.. skimming now...
[22:44] <SonikkuAmerica> nerder: (Thank you. Keep using my nick.) What driver are you using, a proprietary one?
[22:45] <nerder> i dnt know cause i never install, i'm just connecting my display and everything was done
[22:45] <betrayd> no RavenHursT sorry
[22:45] <nerder> SonikkuAmerica,  i dnt know cause i never install, i'm just connecting my display and everything was done
[22:45] <SonikkuAmerica> nerder: VGA, HDMI, DVI?
[22:45] <SonikkuAmerica> nerder: Component? (LOL)
[22:46] <Dr_Willis> SonikkuAmerica:  My rasperrypi can do composite out. ;P
[22:46] <RavenHursT> betrayd: yeah.. not seeing that anyone answered my question..
[22:46] <SonikkuAmerica> Dr_Willis: Ooh... composite!
[22:46] <RavenHursT> I'm sure it's something stupid
[22:46] <RavenHursT> I'm missing something..
[22:47] <edeck> Why hello everyone!
[22:48] <RavenHursT> oh.. usermod doesn't take effect until that user logs in again.. so.. since I was trying to change MY user.. just had to logout and log back in.
[22:48] <ZapatoVeloz> Hi guise.... I have a serious problem with my ubuntu
[22:49] <SonikkuAmerica> ZapatoVeloz: (SpeedShoe!) What kind of a problem?
[22:50] <jjjjjjj> I have a question for mac users in here who virtualize ubuntu desktop, should I buy buy vmware fusion 5 or parallels desktop 8?
[22:50] <Dr_Willis> jjjjjjj:  tried virtualbox yet?
[22:51] <ZapatoVeloz> I have a serious issue with my ubuntu install.
[22:51] <ZapatoVeloz> I don't find my ms paint
[22:51] <jjjjjjj> Dr_Willis:  yes
[22:51] <ZapatoVeloz> I just installed it but I cannot find ms paint
[22:51] <Dr_Willis> !info mtpaint | ZapatoVeloz
[22:51] <ZapatoVeloz> DrWillis... I want the real deal!
[22:51] <ZapatoVeloz> what is mt paint
[22:51] <Dr_Willis> ZapatoVeloz:   a ms paint clone basically.
[22:52] <Dragon64> hi ho! I installed ubuntu 13.04 with a home partition I had previusly used for lubuntu. Now the desktop shows all the files and folders from my home folder ... any one know how to turn that off ? Thanks!
[22:52] <Dragon64> I have googled, without any luck
[22:52] <levolent> hi sonikkuamerice I rebooted, still no SSIDs
[22:52] <ZapatoVeloz> Dr_willis... yeah but I need MS Paint!!!!!!! why I cannot find it
[22:52] <levolent> hi sonikkuamerice I rebooted, still no SSIDs
[22:52] <levolent> hi sonikkuamerica I rebooted, still no SSIDs
[22:52] <SonikkuAmerica> levolent: Be patient.
[22:52] <ZapatoVeloz> probably you are not listening right... I just installed Ubuntu, and tried to find MS Paint but it is not there... it is a fresh install
[22:53] <Gyorg> How much swap space do you guys have set, if any. Do you think it's really necessary?
[22:53] <Dr_Willis> ZapatoVeloz:  copy it off a windows install. I have no idea why you wuld 'need' ms paint..
[22:53] <levolent> I'm patient just corrected a typo
[22:53] <Dr_Willis> ZapatoVeloz:  so basically you are trolling then?
[22:53] <ZapatoVeloz> why would I be trolling? you are trolling me!!!!!
[22:53] <ZapatoVeloz> every computer comes with MS Paint
[22:53] <Dr_Willis> ZapatoVeloz:  please troll elsewhere.
[22:53] <Gyorg> Troll detected
[22:53] <betrayd> levolent: you can use tab to complete nicks
[22:54] <Dragon64> Gyorg, the common rule of thumb is 1 to 2 times ram. Most people wont use their swap, but if you do anything that is memory intensive it may come in handy
[22:54] <Dr_Willis> Same trolling as last week.. how dull.
[22:54] <Kyzz[Mobile]> Nisstyre-laptop: So those are the cards that are supported?
[22:54] <Dragon64> Its such a small amount of space I just set it and forget it
[22:54] <SonikkuAmerica> levolent: Run this: [ sudo modprobe -r b43 ssb wl brcmfmac brcmsmac bcma ]
[22:54] <Dragon64> whats 2 gig on a 600gig drive?
[22:55] <SonikkuAmerica> Dr_Willis: Unless he meant MyPaint...
[22:55] <Dr_Willis> SonikkuAmerica:  no.. he was trolling.
[22:55] <Dr_Willis> exact same trolling dialog as a week or so ago.
[22:56] <SonikkuAmerica> Dr_Willis: "I installed Windows 8 and can't find Nautilus! Ackkk! Help!"
[22:56] <Gyorg> lol
[22:57] <levolent> SonikkuAmerica, FATAL: Module ssb is in use.
[22:58] <SonikkuAmerica> levolent: Then hit the up arrow and edit "ssb" out.
[23:00] <t3hb055nueb> Hi
[23:00] <levolent> SonikkuAmerica, guess it worked? just instantly puts a prompt for new input and echoes nothing
[23:00] <Gyorg> Does anybody know why I might be experiencing screen tearing? It seems to be more noticeable on Cinnamon and Gnome Classic than it is on Unity.
[23:00] <SonikkuAmerica> levolent: It isn't supposed to.
[23:00] <levolent> sonikkuamerica still no SSIDs
[23:01] <levolent> k
[23:01] <SonikkuAmerica> levolent: now [ lspci ]
[23:01] <t3hb055nueb> I have a 3.3gig single core pc, 1.5gram.100ghdrive.....|..Can I set ubuntu up so that it boots and runs from a flash drive and use the H-drive in the pc just for file storage?
[23:02] <Dr_Willis> t3hb055nueb:  you can run totally from an external usb, or sd card.
[23:02] <t3hb055nueb> Dr_Willis: Thanks and are there any downsides?
[23:03] <presonic> recommend some audio cd buring softare?
[23:03] <presonic> software*
[23:03] <SonikkuAmerica> t3hb055nueb: You have to keep the media inserted at all times...?
[23:03] <Dr_Willis> t3hb055nueb:  it willbe slower then an internal HD of course
[23:03] <SonikkuAmerica> !best | presonic
[23:03] <Dr_Willis> !burn | presonic
[23:03] <Kyzz[Mobile]> Is ubuntu server easy to setup?
[23:04] <Dr_Willis> Kyzz[Mobile]:  the server is.. the specific services are the hard part
[23:04] <t3hb055nueb> How much slower? will that be for reading writing? I plan on playing a TEXT based video game/mud while I am downloading and updloading files from my internal hdrive.
[23:04] <t3hb055nueb> Dr_Willis: Nm. I am going to test it out myself, thanks
[23:04] <Dr_Willis> t3hb055nueb:  boot times will be very noticeably slower.
[23:05] <levolent> SonikkuAmerica, http://pastebin.com/c25cQPj1
[23:05] <eN_Joy> is it in general safe(hassle free) to upgrade from desktop 12.10 to 13.04? given that i manage my box remotely, are there any precautions that i need to consider? thanks
[23:05] <t3hb055nueb> I do not restart or shutdown very much at all.
[23:05] <SonikkuAmerica> levolent: Got it. [ sudo modprobe b43 ]
[23:05] <t3hb055nueb> Does anyone know how I can download the Videos on Youtube?
[23:05] <Dr_Willis> eN_Joy:  remote upgradeing to a Beta release..  (or even a normal release) has been known to cause issues
[23:06] <levolent> sonikkuamerica done
[23:06] <Dr_Willis> t3hb055nueb:  tons of youtube download extensions for firefox
[23:06] <SonikkuAmerica> levolent: Now check your wireless.
[23:06] <levolent> sonikkuamerica nothing has changed
[23:06] <levolent> sonikkuamerica still no SSIDs
[23:06] <eN_Joy> Dr_Willis: of course not to beta,
[23:06] <delinquentme> So I've got a server running 12.04 ... and we've got a number of people working on it and I"m not sure about the latency times
[23:06] <SonikkuAmerica> levolent: Is there a wireless network anywhere near your present location?
[23:06] <t3hb055nueb> Dr_Willis: Thanks. So... I have an ubuntu dvd, boot disk. I would plug my flash drive in... reboot and install to the flash drive, correct?
[23:07] <SonikkuAmerica> levolent: Also, is your Wi-Fi controlled by a switch?
[23:07] <eN_Joy> i'm just doing my homework in advance
[23:07] <delinquentme> so this is all LAN ... and I"m wondering if theres a simple ticker which would keep track of events ... as well as server latency time ... while not sucking any substantial resources off the machine
[23:07] <levolent> it says disabled by switch but i have none
[23:07] <SonikkuAmerica> levolent: Internal switch?
[23:07] <levolent> nevermind found it
[23:07] <Dr_Willis> t3hb055nueb:  yes. same as you would a real hd.
[23:07] <levolent> thanks!
[23:08] <SonikkuAmerica> levolent: That was probably the problem all along...
[23:13] <t3hb055nueb> Dr_Willis: =) Last question I think, can I take that usb drive and plug it into another computer with it working?
[23:13] <Dr_Willis> t3hb055nueb:  should. but any special hard ware (wireless/video) may need differnt drivers.
[23:13] <tor_> is it still to early to ask rare tail questions here? it is regarding hangs freeze and slow 3d games. i have a ATI HD 2400 graphics card but find no thirdparty driver
[23:14] <t3hb055nueb> Dr_Willis: I am new to ubuntu, but I am learning fast. How would I add something to said usb, so It has on file drivers for any hardware it comes across.  Would like a fully operable os on the flash drive, that works on any pc. Internet or not.
[23:15] <t3hb055nueb> Even some direction in how to proceed with that would be nice.
[23:15] <tor_> t2hb055nueb: yes
[23:16] <tor_> just down load iso
[23:16] <Dr_Willis> t3hb055nueb:  then use a live-persistant install if you are going to be moveing it around from one pc to another a lot.
[23:16] <Dr_Willis> t3hb055nueb:  not a 'full' normal install.
[23:16] <tor_> boot from a cd
[23:16] <tor_> then choose the usb installer software
[23:16] <betrayd> !raring
[23:17] <Dr_Willis> live persistant install -> basically same as booting from cd + ability to save stuff to the usb
[23:17] <oday> is it true that chromium is the best browser for linux?
[23:17] <tor_> you can then set the amount of the usb that will be kept for settings and files
[23:17] <betrayd> tor: too early, yes
[23:17] <t3hb055nueb> Ok, I know how to install Ubuntu onto my pc, using full normal install.
[23:17] <k1l> oday: there is no best. everyone has his own best. just try some browsers to find your best
[23:18] <tor_> t2hb055nueb: du you already have it installed?
[23:19] <tor_> t2hb055nueb: startup disk creator is the software you are lookiing for
[23:19] <tor_> it takes files from the iso and make a persistent install to a stick or external drive
[23:20] <tor_> t2hb055nueb: startup disk creator is in ubuntu by default
[23:21] <Gyorg> Well, I'm off. See ya guys!
[23:22] <oday> k1l, hi.
[23:29] <levolent> this on?
[23:29] <levolent> SonikkuAmerica, ?
[23:31] <levolent> weird...i can see people joining and quitting but no chat
[23:32] <Geek31> salut
[23:32] <levolent> geek31 and moutarde... welcome
[23:32] <levolent> cool i see chat!
[23:32] <SonikkuAmerica> levolent: Yeah... We went thru 2 netsplits
[23:32] <levolent> SonikkuAmerica, thanks for the help!
[23:32] <levolent> 2 netsplits?
[23:32] <SonikkuAmerica> You're welcome.
[23:32] <SonikkuAmerica> !netsplit
[23:33] <levolent> thanks again guys! later
[23:36] <chick3n> im having a lot of trouble mounting an NFS export. when i attempt to mount it from the client it just sits there and does nothing
[23:36] <chick3n> ive verified the export on the server and all seems well there. rpcinfo -p shows its running
[23:36] <t3hb055nueb> this is what I should be looking at? for a livecd on a usb, that can save to itself be customized further after implemention?
[23:36] <t3hb055nueb> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCD/Persistence?highlight=%28%5CbCategoryLive%5Cb%29\\
[23:37] <Dr_Willis> t3hb055nueb:  just dont go extreme on installing/customizing the live cd setup.
[23:37] <t3hb055nueb> Dr_Willis: You mean start simple and then go from there?
[23:37] <Dr_Willis> t3hb055nueb:   keep it simple. ;)
[23:37] <t3hb055nueb> What does extreme get you?
[23:37] <t3hb055nueb> Yea yea, lightweight.
[23:38] <Dr_Willis> not lightweight.. keep it close to the default setup for what you install.. anything else you install will slow it down a bit / and make your save file bigger. and in the case of some drivers might not work properly
[23:39] <tor_> so, how would you go about to get ATI graphics going on 12.10?
[23:39] <t3hb055nueb> The save file on the usb should be kept small then?
[23:39] <t3hb055nueb> Using a 16gig usb.
[23:39] <Geek31> une fille simpat de toulouse a contacter en cas de problemes: 0674892489
[23:40] <Dr_Willis> t3hb055nueb:  installing extra kernels and drivers will be the biggest issue with working with a live-setup
[23:43] <Guest17317> Is anyone on Ubuntu One to answer questions?
[23:44] <oday> ubuntu 12.10 - i'm trying to move a file called .conkyrc to a home folder and it won't let me with a permission denied error.. what to do?
[23:44] <t3hb055nueb> I only wanted to add a few programs to it. Wintin++ ,Xirc, devede..
[23:44] <nerder> where i can find xorg.conf ?
[23:44] <t3hb055nueb> Dr_Willis: Why do you help out here? Personal satisfaction? Resume? Learning?
[23:44] <t3hb055nueb> thanks
[23:45] <Dr_Willis> t3hb055nueb:  Im a sick person.
[23:45] <SonikkuAmerica> nerder: Inside /etc/X11/
[23:45] <Dr_Willis> oday:  whats the exact command you are using?
[23:45] <nerder> find / -iname xorg.conf
[23:45] <nerder> nothing in there
[23:45] <Dr_Willis> nerder:  its /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[23:46] <Dr_Willis> nerder:  IF it exists
[23:46] <nerder> there is
[23:46] <nerder> xorg.conf.failsafe
[23:46] <Dr_Willis> then you dont have an xorg.conf on your system if none is there.
[23:46] <DarkAceLaptop> am I able to run a program from this user as a different user, other than sudo?
[23:46] <DarkAceLaptop> and how do I add a user?
[23:46] <Dr_Willis> DarkAceLaptop:  as one user, to another, you can use su i recall.
[23:47] <Dr_Willis> DarkAceLaptop:  sudo adduser username     is one way
[23:47] <sporkeee> lol Dr_Willis
[23:47] <nerder> Dr_Willis, i have some resolution problem just with this user, cause when i log in another one everything is correct
[23:47] <oday> Dr_Willis, i'm doing it with from nautilus not commands
[23:47] <Dr_Willis> nerder:  each user can have their own res setting.
[23:47] <Dr_Willis> oday:  i would suggest using the commands so you can see the exact errors.
[23:48] <DarkAceLaptop> 	Room Number []:
[23:48] <DarkAceLaptop> what is this? lol
[23:48] <Dr_Willis> DarkAceLaptop:  hit enter.....
[23:48] <oday> Dr_Willis, i don't know how to do it.
[23:48] <iandalton> Hello everyone
[23:48] <harris> anyone have good tuorial for making game in python
[23:48] <Dr_Willis> oday:  cp /path/to/file /path/to/other/place
[23:48] <DarkAceLaptop> done
[23:49] <Dr_Willis> harris:  theres a python game of the week web site that has lots of little games for examples
[23:49] <DarkAceLaptop> now say I want to run xchat as "tempuser"
[23:49] <DarkAceLaptop> what command?
[23:49] <iandalton> harris: I have heard of http://inventwithpython.com/
[23:49] <JonnyNomad> harris: the book "Python for Kids" has a game making walk through
[23:49] <harris> how much is it
[23:49] <nerder> Dr_Willis, http://pastebin.com/s4zexnVY
[23:50] <slobad23> harris, there are definitely books dedicated to learning python through game development.
[23:50] <Dr_Willis> DarkAceLaptop:  check  'su --help'
[23:50] <oday> Dr_Willis, ty.
[23:50] <nerder> this one is my xorg.config.failsafe
[23:50] <Dr_Willis> nerder:  if other users work.. and one user does not.. then that tells me that the problem user has a config file thats the issue.
[23:51] <nerder> Dr_Willis, umm, how can i check it?
[23:51] <Dr_Willis> theres some setting file in the users home dir that sets a res for that user. or use that monitors/display tool to set the res
[23:51] <Dr_Willis> system settings -> display
[23:51] <nerder> Dr_Willis, if i try to set the resolution the monitor become totally black
[23:51] <nerder> and i have to reboot
[23:52] <Dr_Willis>  tried going to the console? 'apt-ctrl-f1' and just restarting X ?
[23:52] <DarkAceLaptop> su --login tempuser?
[23:52] <DarkAceLaptop> su --login
[23:52] <nerder> how can i quit the X server?
[23:52] <Dr_Willis> sudo service lightdm restart    will restart X
[23:53] <DarkAceLaptop> got it, thanks Dr_Willis
[23:53] <nerder> ok i'll try
[23:54] <nerder> Dr_Willis, nothing.
[23:55] <Dr_Willis> 'nothing' tells us.. just that ... 'nothing'.... what do you mean
[23:55] <harris> is the a free pdf for python for kids
[23:55] <slobad23> harris, I'm sure you can find one, even if there isn't supposed to be.
[23:55] <nerder> Dr_Willis, i'll explain, so if i restart the X serv the login module page is at the correct resolution, but when i logged in
[23:56] <nerder> everything is the same
[23:56] <Dr_Willis> nerder:  and other USERS work correctly?
[23:56] <nerder> yes
[23:56] <xibalba> anyone know of an IRC daemon appliance? Turnkey Linux Style?
[23:56] <SonikkuAmerica> Dr_Willis: Is this where we say to nerder he should trash the .Xauthority?
[23:56] <Dr_Willis> so.. look in  th problem users Home and  .config dirs for the setting file that sets the resolution, and remove it
[23:57] <Dr_Willis> nerder:  so the ONLY issue is the res is incorrect?
[23:57] <nerder> so i run ls -a in the home dir
[23:58] <nerder> i delete .Xauth
[23:58] <nerder> and after that i change resolution, is that correct?
[23:58] <Dr_Willis> .Xauthority issues would stop you from logging in.. not affect your res./ theres Some other file that does the res. and i dont recall its name
[23:59] <nerder> there is .xsession-errors
[23:59] <nerder> .config
[23:59] <agarwood> Hi ! How are you ? when I use live cd debian kde, i can't connect my modem usb 3g, i don't understand i am new, any doc about how to done it ? I mean any doc, wiki... on internet ? Thank you !
[23:59] <Dr_Willis>  .config is a directory of settings files.. it might be in there
[23:59] <Dr_Willis> agarwood:  if you are using Debian.. ask in #debian