[01:25] popey: hey, you didn't have the hangout [06:41] good morning [06:44] JoseeAntonioR: yeah, we ended up cancelling it because we had a duplicate one scheduled for today [07:00] mhall119, I'm not quite sure how to edit the main page on http://91.189.93.108/ - can you help me out there? [07:01] dholbach: I spoke to someone re beginners team - I've edited the link at the doc pad [07:01] elfy, ready to go? :) [07:02] I didn't look too hard at the rest of it - so if it was ok other than the BT bit then yes [07:02] thanks muchly [07:02] copying it over [07:02] is someone checking for typos? [07:03] I'm looking over it again [07:03] k [07:05] http://91.189.93.108/contribute/documentation/ [07:21] Morning. [07:29] dholbach: I'm not sure that it should be using *buntu - as far as I know documentation is done for Ubuntu and if other flavours want to do specific stuff they will [07:33] and I fiddled with the first paragraph a bit - it read a bit odd to me === czajkows1i is now known as czajkowski [07:58] dpm, hola muchacho [07:58] elfy, I'll update it in a bit [08:01] hi dholbach [08:01] dpm, call time? [08:01] dholbach, yep, sorry for the delay, coming in [08:58] dholbach, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityWebsite is really green:O [09:00] :-D [09:00] dholbach, ;-D [09:00] I think the support thing will take some time [09:00] As the Councils fill up their items [09:24] smartboyhw, I'm sure we'll get there - if some teams don't respond quickly enough we can always update the content [09:25] elfy, which first paragraph did you edit? are we talking about http://pad.ubuntu.com/communitywebsite-contribute-documentation? [09:27] dholbach, of course. After all, this is much more a cross-team thing:P [09:43] dholbach: on http://pad.ubuntu.com/communitywebsite-contribute-support is the support referring to what is avilable to loco teams [09:44] just wondering as some of the support stuff is covered in another pad on about locoteams [09:44] yeah, some of these could do with a clearer agenda for the pages [09:45] maybe it's worth mentioning it [09:45] but talk about it in more detail on the "meeting people locally" page [09:45] or something [09:45] like a please see page... blegh for support [09:45] I can do this hopefully at lunch today [09:46] cool [09:46] hugs! [09:46] elfy, thanks for updating the Forums section:) [09:47] Of http://pad.ubuntu.com/communitywebsite-contribute-support [09:47] dholbach: in the locoteam one there is already a how to set up a lcooteam which wasn't linked to what ever was written so I added that to the page. [09:47] thanks czajkowski - which pad was this? [09:47] so I know which one to update [09:48] is it http://pad.ubuntu.com/communitywebsite-help-meeting-locos? [09:48] dholbach: http://pad.ubuntu.com/communitywebsite-help-meeting-locos [09:48] gotcha [09:49] updated: http://91.189.93.108/help-information/meeting-other-ubuntu-users/local-communities/ [09:49] gtg for a bit - see you [09:51] toodle pip [09:55] dholbach: yea - it was that one === ara is now known as Guest91539 [11:35] popey: ok, no worries, but next time please let me know in advance so I can remove everything from the cal+twitter and others [11:46] dholbach: dpm something a bit different for the day. https://soundcloud.com/atlanticrecords/queen-feat-erykah-badu [11:48] czajkowski, indeed, something different to what I usually listen to, but it's got a funky vibe, thanks :) [11:48] yup :) [12:16] nice [12:58] dholbach: the home page content is in the theme code [12:58] mhall119, aha [12:58] that is the norm for the web team's wordpress sites [12:58] ok [13:01] mhall119: looks like our blockers call was dropped because the guys are doing a hangout? [13:03] oh, is that what happened? [13:04] yeah, hangout on air now [13:19] yep :) [13:46] czajkowski, ping [14:13] hey jono [14:13] howdy dholbach [14:14] dholbach, jono isn't http://www.ubuntu.com/community/countdown supposed to be counting down 13.04 ? [14:15] smartboyhw, I don't think we are doing a countdown this time - I haven't see the web team announce it [14:15] jono, OK. [14:15] dholbach, can you look into the countdown for smartboyhw ? [14:15] Maybe Canonical wants people to download LTS instead of non-LTS so no countdown:p [14:15] (EVIL THEORY) [14:15] jono, sure [14:16] smartboyhw, you are onto something [14:16] it is because we hate freedom :-) [14:16] jono, mind that sentence, I will broadcast it everywhere:P [14:16] :-) [14:16] lol [14:24] dpm, can you find some time to look at the burndown [14:27] dholbach, I see you have 2 TODO and 3 INPROGRESS, can you finalize those too? [14:27] http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-raring/canonical-community-ubuntu-13.04-month-6.html [14:29] mhall119, 100% :O [14:30] SergioMeneses: ? [14:30] jono, yes, I'm working on it [14:30] thanks dholbach [14:31] SergioMeneses, that's means mhall119 is extremely effective :P [14:32] mhall119, dont worry, I was checking the link that Jono shared and I saw you have 100% [14:32] ah, well, that's misleading :) [14:32] mhall119, !? [14:32] o0 [14:33] Ah most of them are POSTPONED:P [14:33] it's really 50%, 50% posponed until a later date [14:33] BOO [14:33] mhall119, jaja [14:34] SergioMeneses: but it looks good doesn't it? :) [14:34] mhall119, jeje sure! :) [14:35] jono, yes, sorry, it's been a morning of calls. I'm going to mark some as postponed [14:36] smartboyhw, the web people are busy right now it seems - I filed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website-content/+bug/1171883 and subscribed you to it [14:36] dholbach: Error: launchpad bug 1171883 not found [14:36] dholbach, got the bug:) [14:36] rock on [14:36] dholbach, the web people are supposed to be busy, it's about release:P [14:36] yeah :) [14:36] thanks for noticing it [14:37] dholbach, thank popey for that, I was looking at his old blogs and one of the countdown posts showed 12.10 :P [14:37] ah ok [14:37] s/blogs/blogposts/ [14:37] * smartboyhw hugs dholbach [14:37] and popey [14:37] hugs back! :) [14:39] uh oh [14:39] popey, sorry:P [14:44] np, thanks dpm [15:30] mhall119, dpm we have this meeting now? [15:52] all right my friends - see you all tomorrow - big hugs! [15:52] * smartboyhw hugs dholbach [15:52] :-) [16:00] JoseeAntonioR: yo yo [16:00] I sent you an invite for a charmschool I would like to do next Friday [16:00] I can run it, I just invited you so you know when I would like to do it [16:10] !party [16:10] Please remember that #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #xubuntu, #edubuntu, and #lubuntu are support channels. To countdown to !Raring release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party - For in-person parties, see http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/2322/ === Guest92449 is now known as balloons [16:14] imbrandon: way cool with the comments [16:14] the G+ thing [16:19] jono: bah, I just remembered you had affiliates for amazon stuff on bbqpad [16:19] ordered my grill yesterday [16:19] but it looks like ubuntu will get that money, heh [16:20] damn you jcastro [16:20] :-) [16:20] sorry, I totally forgot [16:20] but it's finally spring here [16:20] and daddy needs to grill like a baws [16:22] :-) [16:22] what did you get, jcastro? [16:24] http://www.amazon.com/Weber-1481001-Performer-Platinum-Charcoal/dp/B0098HR1I0/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1366734234&sr=8-7&keywords=weber+grill [16:24] charcoal [16:24] but without the annoyance of a chimney tube, etc. [16:24] so like, gas ignition [16:26] I haven't grilled in a long time, been slumming in Florida for a year. [16:27] jono: do you know what the sprint link for last vUDS was? https://launchpad.net/sprints/uds-1305 [16:27] bkerensa, https://launchpad.net/sprints/uds-1303 [16:31] jono: Ahh thanks... Tracking participation looks like less people participated in last vUDS than previous two UDSes [16:31] jono: has anyone announced reg is open for 1305? [16:32] bkerensa, yep, mhall119 did [16:32] For two weeks already? [16:37] jono: apparently the gas ignition makes it braindead easy to reuse coal [16:37] so light, cook, close vents, extinguish, reuse. [16:38] jcastro, performers are nice grills [16:38] jono: whats the key to cleaning gas grills? [16:38] =/ [16:38] is there some magic spray I can use [16:38] jcastro, you can also get a smokenator [16:38] to convert it into a smoker [16:39] bkerensa, don't clean them :-) [16:39] that is the key [16:39] fire it up, burn the crap off, and grill [16:39] yeah the smokenator is on my list [16:39] as well as some of the other little gadgets for it [16:39] like, they make a pizza stone for it, etc. [16:40] jono: yeah see I tried that with the thighs and the fire protector caught on fire somewhat awful and hit my thighs a bit [16:40] =/ [16:41] jcastro, pizza is not so good on webers, the temp is not high enough [16:41] it is good, but not brick oven style [16:41] better than reg oven though [16:43] http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000WEMGM4/ref=cm_cr_asin_lnk [16:43] I can probably get by on this kind of stuff for small smoking [16:43] since I have no idea how to cook without direct flame, heh [16:45] jono: http://ubuntuone.com/4A7EJmn5oDSDPHjV9ecRQC [16:46] bkerensa, yeah thighs have a lot of grease [16:46] jono: so interesting trend.... Raring was the highest attended UDS so over many... Sort of the peak [16:46] bkerensa, interesting [16:46] traditionally lower the further you go back [16:47] so 1305 needs to be good [16:47] ;) [16:47] how are you measuring? by lp registration? [16:48] jcastro: yeah its the only metric [16:48] yeah cuz I was going to say, chasing after people to register on LP during non-virtual UDSes was painfully annoying [16:49] jcastro: I'm going to graph them all [16:49] jcastro,all your grill talk made me hungry [16:49] just waiting on LP to export them all [16:49] balloons: I was eating, that's why I brought it up [16:50] sick of crappy winter food and carryout, homeboy needs to grill [16:50] not sure that's going to be accurate though as the same with any conference unless you can see an acutla head count or login, anyone can just sign up [16:50] I'm just glad to feel like eating again :-0 [16:51] <-- lunch over, back to the grind [16:59] bkerensa: for uds 13.05 we're doing registration directly in Summit [17:09] mhall119: http://ubuntuone.com/3fbppJtJcPj3o05j1xTzO9 [17:09] bkerensa: btw, since it appears you missed it: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2013/04/09/uds-13-05-ubuntus-second-online-developer-summit/ [17:11] bkerensa: is that line the total of physical and remote attendees? [17:11] mhall119: yes its the total of both (total attendance) [17:12] mhall119: Is there a way to get a attendance total publically from summit? [17:12] interesting, it seems nobody likes southern US cities [17:13] bkerensa: from the API [17:13] mhall119: well if you look at contribution and team trends it just kind of matches overall community growth and adoption [17:13] mhall119: as core community grew and contributions did.... more people attended UDS [17:14] bkerensa: http://summit.ubuntu.com/api/attendee/?summit__name=uds-r [17:14] for example [17:14] you'll need to do the counting yourself [17:14] mhall119: lol no export to csv? :P [17:15] bkerensa: nope [17:16] jcastro: ping [17:16] nvm, cjohnston ping [17:16] cjohnston: https://launchpad.net/sprints/uds-1305 says UDS ends at 14:00 UTC on the 16th, but it ends at 20:00 UTC, can you fix this? [17:17] cjohnston: you also need to get summit's database updated for those attendees [17:21] jcastro: thanks :) yea i thought it was pretty slick too [17:21] jono: I guess I'm going to see Rick this weekend [17:21] :D [17:22] jcastro: like my new pet project domain :) [17:27] ya [17:29] its gonna eventually have a juju "topic" ( section & forum ) too … slowly adding each of the topics I wanted to make sure are covered one by one as I stair step the site launch [17:29] :) [17:30] wordpress dev topic got catapulted unexpectedly first tho , heh [17:30] imbrandon: missed you at ods! I heard you had an adventure [17:31] yea, to say the least , i'm still drivers licenseless ( not legally but physically ) [17:31] boo [17:31] was a whole ton of fun lemme tell ya [17:31] ;) [17:31] imbrandon: now you have to come for OSCON right? [17:32] i never realized just how much we depend on the few bits of info that are in our wallet or just how hard it really is to verify someoen is who they say by the cops unlike ncis that can do it in 30 sec [17:33] never been to OSCON, i might see if i can swing it, no idea on what $$ is looking like right now [17:33] should be ok, but i dont wanna say "yea" but then no $ :) [17:34] bay area ? [17:34] portland [17:34] ahh [17:35] they anounced city #3 btw pleia2 ( i bet you heard already tho ) for g fiber [17:35] not salt lake, but somewhere in ut iirc [17:37] * imbrandon wants to goto the Linux conf thats always in OH , cant ever rember the name … but yea it always rocks [17:38] imbrandon: yeah, provo (turns out they already have fiber infrastructure, just no one to manage it - enter google!) [17:38] ahhh cool [17:38] well, they have a company managing it, but it's a mess [17:38] it's owned by the city [17:38] pro tip: if your city decides to run internet, leave :) [17:39] I don't think it's ever worked [17:39] i'm seriously thinking about renting a place 2 or 3 miles closer to downtown … so i dont have to wait another 8 months for my install ( thats the ETA for my hood atm ) [17:39] philly tried to do similar with city-wide wifi, ugh [17:39] ah [17:39] mt view isnt too bad , but thats by google FOR the city isnt it [17:39] and hehe, moving for internet [17:39] yeah [17:40] hell ya I would :) just rent … but yea [17:40] heh [17:41] their is nice little cottage 2 bedroom flats down there for like $550 …. CHEAP , but in the already hookup zone [17:41] nice [17:41] its sooo tempting to just grab one for 6 mo to a yr [17:41] also, wow, it's been forever since I've lived in a place where rent was $550/mo [17:41] here it's like, $5500/mo ;) [17:41] pleia2: is anyone from Xubuntu docs missing from https://help.ubuntu.com/contributors.html ? I'm getting ready to push a update there [17:42] pleia2: and you have contribute to Xubuntu docs right? [17:42] yea me too, mine is $1000 now and thats pretty good for a 4 bedroom [17:42] round here [17:42] bkerensa: thanks! http://docs.xubuntu.org/ln-idp3702784.html has all contributors [17:42] kk [17:42] bkerensa: so yeah, I'm missing :\ [17:42] probably just add the current people, not the "contributors from previous" [17:42] kk [17:43] heh, right, so the only people currently listed on help. are old contributors, doh :) [17:43] I believe I went deactivated from that [17:43] they haven't been around in ages [17:43] elfy: xubuntu docs for 13.04 are pretty much the same as 12.10, so we can keep you on :) [17:44] what i've really been trying to do is find someone i know that has it already and just "colo" a machine there that i can use … to hold me over till install day [17:45] I cannot wait till Portland gets Fiber =/ [17:46] g fiber at that , 10x verizon speeds [17:46] for their fios [17:49] I did get to meet the director of network engineering for google fiber the other day (my fiance's boss, he's coming to my wedding) [17:50] pleia2: sorry - was speaking out loud, not worried about it :) [17:50] and congrats on ^^ [17:50] thanks :) [17:51] pleia2: nice ( on both counts ) :) [17:51] pleia2: maybe you will get a private fiber pipe dropped to your home? :) [17:52] bkerensa: hah, never going to happen [17:52] getting fiber ever in california seems like a long shot ;) crazy zoning laws here, impossible to lay anything new [17:52] and downtown sf.. hah hah [18:10] pleia2: there's always the hope of WiMax [18:10] it's always only 10 years away, like fusion power and GNU/Hurd [18:10] haha [18:12] I did the math the other day, GNU/Hurd has been in development for nearly a quarter of a *century* [18:13] we do have a wireless provider in our building (line of sight device on the building roof!), not wimax [18:13] 100M to the building, so we try not to have our neighbors sign up [18:13] :) [18:13] oh man, I supported a line-of-sight wireless connection before...what an unreliable pain in the rear that way [18:13] was [18:16] I say "supported", but really my company just provided internet access for it, someone else had to support the physical link, but still was a pain [18:17] pleia2: MonkeyBrains has been trying to apply to run Fiber in SF but until then they offer amazing wifi http://monkeybrains.net/wireless.html [18:19] mhall119, so you worked for a WISP? [18:23] wow our connection is amazing here (and I am in the middle of no where)- we have line of sight and get 50 up and down reliably (and they use Ubuntu Servers back end - it's pretty cool) [18:23] no, just a local ISP, but we had a government client that wanted to setup a wireless link to us, and we just provided net access on our end [18:28] akgraner, wow! I take it they use the terrain to their advantage [18:29] of course :-) [18:33] I have 4G as a back up, but it's slow if both kids and Pete are beating up the network - my kids say they are the only kids in their group whose mom says "get of my bandwidth" My son kill me when his is on skype on one computer and playing some and game live across the internet and talking on his phone while I am trying to do hangouts and file transfers not to mention whatever Pete is doing (we have a don't ask don't tell policy at o [18:33] ur house when it comes to our jobs) [18:34] dang - I give up typing today :-( [18:34] well in IRC anyway [18:34] well, my crazy is now a published thing http://columbianewsservice.com/2013/04/chicken-livered-living-with-a-fear-of-birds/ [18:34] I feel like such a wacko reading this now [18:35] :-) [18:35] best line: "Chickens and vultures, she says, are particularly fearsome for her." [18:35] ah me :) [18:36] At least you know you aren't alone [18:36] indeed! [18:36] I'm that way about spiders [18:39] akgraner, lol. don't ask, don't tell! It's fun sitting next to your SO, but with screens turned around and yelling at them "what are you doing? get off the bandwidth!" [18:39] AlanBell, so i just tried a screen reader install for raring :- [18:40] balloons, that happens all the time here [18:41] sometimes we have use different providers if it's a heavy hangout and file transfer day - I am like you're killing my hangout to which I get you are killing mine Then we argue about whose call is more important. Oh I am sure it would be hilarious to anyone but us :-) [18:42] akgraner, it's definitely happened here before. i've had to put traffic shaping and bandwidth limits on my router by ip in order to get around it. [18:42] yep - pete has too [18:42] my fiance is working from home today, he's on the webpass and I am on the comcast ;) [18:42] hooray for multihomed [18:42] :-) [18:42] the funniest things hammer the connection.. Lots of social media sites do it.. you know the endless scrolling sites? [18:42] we are all such geeks [18:42] for instance, pinterest wreaks havoc on my connection [18:42] worst part is actually "hey, need your input on $wedding_thing" "I AM TRYING TO WORK!" [18:43] :) [18:43] try it on pete once.. just load a pinterest category and keep scrolling :) [18:43] :-) [18:43] pleia2, ahh weddings! enjoy it! [18:43] and congrats1 [18:43] balloons: thanks :) [18:44] today is my last day of being around, I fly out tomorrow, will be back on May 13th (just in time for vUDS!) [18:44] balloons, I thought you liked me - that would not be fun for me. You've meet Pete he would not find it funny. [18:44] pleia2, go you! Congratulations! [18:45] thanks! [18:47] akgraner, lol.. your right, pete would not be amused.. I never was when it happened :-) [18:49] pleia2, if you want to a list of things to tell your soon to be hubby about what not to do/say to his soon to be wife - he can read all the "oops did I say that" remarks Pete has said over the last 21 years. His tactful filter seems to have a malfunction these days [18:50] akgraner: haha [18:50] hey akgraner! [18:50] nigelb, hey!!! [18:51] I knew pulling an allnighter would be a good idea :P [19:22] balloons: how did it go? I have only done the orca install early in the raring cycle, I should try it again [19:23] AlanBell, well I just lost my notes in a freak restart :-( I was going to edit the testcase to be a bit better. That said, it went better than it has in the past for me. There's 2 critical pieces. 1) It doesn't tell me after hitting enter on the final screen that it's begun installing, nor does it announce progress. 2) It doesn't work well on the timezone screen [19:24] yeah, timezone screen is pretty hard with the keyboard even if you can see what is going on [19:24] your best hope is that you have a network connection and geolocation gets it right [20:14] balloons, how you doing? [20:15] jono, recovering.. spending some time this afternoon catching up on some testing needs ;-) [20:15] balloons, thats an interesting way to recover [20:15] :-) [20:15] jono, lol.. [20:17] jcastro: holly cr*p man, i mad techcrunch with that plugin :) http://techcrunch.com/2013/04/23/developer-brings-google-commenting-system-to-wordpress-a-week-after-google-launches-it-for-blogger/ [20:19] jono, I'll see you tomorrow I'm sure.. I trust I'll be floating on air by then.. haha [20:20] imbrandon: yeah because I pinged them for u [20:20] ;) [20:21] :P [20:22] imbrandon: the writer is Portland based ;) [20:22] imbrandon: you should be on the verge later [20:22] and maybe mashable [20:22] ;) [20:22] bkerensa: good news is i dident notice because the server was buckling heh [20:22] balloons, :-) [20:22] infact /me is happy with how its doing [20:23] sweet [20:23] imbrandon: they even ganked my screenshot [20:23] lol [20:23] heh, yea i noticed, i'm working on a options screen now for the admin section [20:24] imbrandon: nice... you should add a html element with a link that says "Hire the author of this plugin" [20:24] :D [20:25] heh [20:26] thats what devopsrockstar.com is for ( yes i own it , and no there is nothing on it yet , got busy with this plugin , heh ) === glebihan_ is now known as glebihan [21:09] balloons, hey [21:09] can you finish your 2 TODOs on the burndown: [21:09] http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-raring/canonical-community-ubuntu-13.04-month-6.html [21:09] jono, yes indeed.. [21:09] thanks balloons [21:10] things look good for the month.. it's been pretty nice doing this monthly cadence [21:10] I have to wrap my brain around another UDS happening so soon.. so some adjusting is still on-going [21:19] This uds should be pretty interesting. to see the online uds like we had two months ago on a large scale. [21:20] philipballew: What will make it larger in scale? [21:20] bkerensa, amount of people attending [21:21] I assume more people will be there because there is more notice now. [21:22] philipballew: I think the lack of having a excuse to take off work for some and not being in the same time zone impacted it more than the notice [21:22] I agree with philipballew.. I think/hope more will attend [21:22] we'll all get a bit better at accommodating and attending [21:23] If any need a place to "attend" they're welcome to come to my house in Auburn CA. [21:24] philipballew: I think Canonical has a Sprint in Oakland the same week :) [21:24] nope [21:24] cjohnston: different week? [21:24] cjohnston -- driveby dream crusher [21:25] Oakland is not really the highlight of California. [21:25] balloons: yes, that means you have to attend UDS :-P [21:25] and so does mhall119 [21:25] Sacramento, now that's a fine city. [21:25] philipballew, ohh.. auburn looks cool! [21:25] san diego wasn't bad [21:26] cjohnston, I am there right now. Its great. (I go to collage here) [21:26] UDS-S Bodie, CA [21:26] :) [21:26] I think it was August [21:26] when I was [21:26] I hear the accommodations and connectivity in Bodie is second to none [21:26] we went to the safari zoo thing... m-i-s-e-r-a-b-l-e [21:27] cjohnston, Its like Mexico, without the danger of Mexico. (I actually really like Mexico) [21:27] bkerensa: 56k with the best of them? ;-) [21:27] cjohnston, I am sorry you had to go there. [21:27] imbrandon: stealing some of your TC traffic now k? [21:27] :) [21:27] okies :) [21:27] uds in Bakersfield! [21:27] cjohnston: only in the summer... Winter months the snow destroys the poles :) [21:27] philipballew: ewww [21:28] philipballew: San Bernadino ftw [21:28] * cjohnston is going to new orleans for the first time this year [21:28] bkerensa, Inland empire bro! [21:28] cjohnston, i have herd good things about that place [21:29] * philipballew is going to Mexico City for the first time this year. [21:29]