[15:57] <jamespage> o/
[15:59] <yolanda> hi, chairing today for first time, i'll do my best
[15:59] <smoser> o/
[16:00] <yolanda> #startmeeting ubuntu-server-team
[16:00] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Apr 23 16:00:15 2013 UTC.  The chair is yolanda. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[16:00] <yolanda> #topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting
[16:02] <yolanda> (carried forward) arosales to follow up with Norvald regarding SRU
[16:03] <jamespage> hmm arosales is not around yet
[16:03] <smoser> copy over.
[16:03] <jamespage> yolanda, park that one for the time being
[16:03] <yolanda> ok
[16:03] <yolanda> zul to send notes from review of complexity of packaging perconia for Ubuntu to the ubuntu-server list
[16:03] <zul> oops need to be done
[16:04] <jamespage> zul, I think that would make a good session for next vUDS
[16:04] <jamespage> specifically to talk about packaging etc....
[16:04] <zul> jamespage:  *sigh* ok :)
[16:04] <arosales> hello
[16:04] <yolanda> hi
[16:04] <jamespage> zul, maybe you could grab upstream and get them to come along as well
[16:04] <zul> jamespage:  sure
[16:04]  * arosales apologizes in advance of not updating the minutes
[16:04]  * arosales fail
[16:05] <yolanda> (carried forward) arosales to follow up with Norvald regarding SRU
[16:06] <jamespage> arosales, did that happen?
[16:06] <arosales> yolanda, still a todo on my part
[16:06] <arosales> yolanda, no need to continue tracking it here though
[16:06] <yolanda> ok
[16:06] <arosales> I got a task out
[16:06] <yolanda> next one then
[16:06] <yolanda> (carried forward) smoser to reach out to juju-core and discuss what integration with ubuntu image meta data can be done for Raring.
[16:07] <smoser> done.
[16:07] <yolanda> ok
[16:07] <yolanda> #topic Raring Development
[16:07] <yolanda> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaringRingtail/ReleaseSchedule
[16:07] <yolanda> #subtopic Release Bugs
[16:08] <jamespage> yolanda, want me to pickup this section?
[16:08] <yolanda> thx
[16:08] <jamespage> OK - so http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-r-tracking-bug-tasks.html#server
[16:08] <jamespage> only four bugs outstanding - none of those will make release
[16:08] <jamespage> so deferred until next release
[16:09] <jamespage> #subtopic Blueprints
[16:09] <jamespage> #link http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-raring/group/topic-raring-servercloud-overview.html
[16:10] <jamespage> so I would guess none of the outstanding work items will get done before thursday
[16:10] <jamespage> POSTPONE as required.
[16:11] <jamespage> all-in-all great cycle folks - loads of stuff delivered; slight less change in Debian helped us out a bit there!
[16:11] <jamespage> yolanda, back to you!
[16:11] <yolanda> #topic Ubuntu Server Team Events
[16:12] <yolanda> so last week ODS, and Cloud summit in 2 weeks
[16:12] <Daviey> All recovering from last week openstack summit :)
[16:12] <jamespage> anyone got any events in the next few weeks?
[16:12] <Daviey> There are some release parties this week. :)
[16:12]  * jamespage is still somewhere over the atlantic
[16:12] <yolanda> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (plars)
[16:12] <arosales> m_3, is at http://www.railsconf.com/ this weekend
[16:13] <plars> hi
[16:13] <plars> I talked to roaksoax
[16:13] <plars> who said he would take a look at the maas tests I believe
[16:13] <plars> But any help anyone can provide with testing ISOs on server stuff this week would be great
[16:13] <plars> respin in progress right now
[16:14] <plars> That's all I have for now, and my primary focus for the moment
[16:14] <jamespage> plars, sure - it would be great if the whole team could sniff the ISO
[16:14] <yolanda> ok, next one
[16:14] <yolanda> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb)
[16:14] <jamespage> I know it has less relevance now but its still important!
[16:14] <smb> Hi, nothing again. Bits and pieces and preparing mentally for next week. :)
[16:15] <smb> Unfortunately server-team won't be there
[16:15] <smb> Are there things to bring up?
[16:16] <jamespage> smb, if it comes up a plan around dkms updates for precise backported kernels would be nice :-)
[16:16] <smb> jamespage, You got a Icare list?
[16:16] <Daviey> smb: We'd like to better understand how the kernel team, and QA team are going to identify regressions with all dkms packages
[16:16] <Daviey> (not just server, IMO)
[16:17] <jamespage> agreed - its not just server - although we have some specific we handle such as openvswitch and iscsitarget
[16:17] <smb> Right now there is a few "known" which is mostly the binary gfx drivers
[16:17] <jamespage> I know the xen blktap driver stuff bust as well
[16:19] <yolanda> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (rbasak)
[16:19] <yolanda> rbasak doesn't seem to be here
[16:19] <Daviey> He gave his apologies
[16:20] <Daviey> (sorry for not mentioning it sooner)
[16:20] <yolanda> ok, i'll skip it then
[16:20] <yolanda> #topic Open Discussion
[16:20] <yolanda> anything to say?
[16:21] <arosales> Ubuntu Server rocked at ODS, nice work to all
[16:22] <jamespage> it was fun!
[16:22] <yolanda> nice experience
[16:23] <Daviey> It was great to see Openstack deployed via Ubuntu in HA - via juju
[16:23] <Daviey> & Landscape seemed to come out rather popular aswell.
[16:23] <jamespage> I'm working on the docs on deploying openstack in HA mode with juju - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/OpenStackHA
[16:23] <yolanda> i had some comments from a RedHat designer, he likes our Juju interface
[16:24] <Daviey> super
[16:24] <yolanda> hi, more topics?
[16:24] <jamespage> not from me!
[16:24] <Daviey> Do we need a full meeting next week?  Or would the time be better spent on blueprint drafting & sync/merges?
[16:25] <Daviey> (Call for topics - will be sent tomorrow BTW)
[16:25] <Daviey> .. the week after is also a non-starter.. So May 14th?
[16:26] <Daviey> Agreed?
[16:26] <hallyn> sounds good
[16:26] <smoser> i like it
[16:26] <yolanda> ok
[16:26] <jamespage> +!
[16:26] <arosales> thanks for chairing yolanda
[16:26] <jamespage> +1
[16:26] <jamespage> rather
[16:26] <yolanda> thx
[16:26] <yolanda> #topic Announce next meeting date and time
[16:26] <yolanda> May 14th 16:00 UTC
[16:26] <yolanda> #endmeeting
[16:26] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Apr 23 16:26:59 2013 UTC.
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[16:27] <jamespage> thanks yolanda!
[16:27] <Daviey> yolanda: you did great.. lets make it a regular thing.. :)
[16:27] <yolanda> so first time chairing, next time i'll try to do better
[16:27] <yolanda> it was funny!
[16:27] <arosales> yolanda, well done this time around :-)
[17:00] <jsalisbury> #startmeeting
[17:00] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Apr 23 17:00:14 2013 UTC.  The chair is jsalisbury. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
[17:00] <jsalisbury> ##
[17:00] <jsalisbury> ## This is the Ubuntu Kernel Team weekly status meeting.
[17:00] <jsalisbury> ##
[17:00] <jsalisbury> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Meeting
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[17:00] <jsalisbury> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/raring
[17:00] <jsalisbury> # Meeting Etiquette
[17:00] <jsalisbury> #
[17:00] <jsalisbury> # NOTE: '..' indicates that you are finished with your input.
[17:00] <jsalisbury> #       'o/' indicates you have something to add (please wait until you are recognized)
[17:00] <jsalisbury> Roll Call for Ubuntu Kernel Weekly Status Meeting
[17:00] <ppisati> o/
[17:00] <henrix> o/
[17:00] <sforshee> o/
[17:00] <smb> o/
[17:00] <cking> o/
[17:00] <apw> o/
[17:00] <kamal> o/
[17:01] <sconklin> o/
[17:01] <bjf> o/
[17:01] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] ARM Status (ppisati)
[17:01] <ppisati> R/master: fixed lp1169956 ("highbank: reboot doesn't work reliably"), working
[17:01] <arges> o/
[17:01] <ppisati> on lp1171582("[highbank] hvc0 getty causes random hangs") now.
[17:01] <ppisati> ..
[17:01] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Release Metrics and Incoming Bugs (jsalisbury)
[17:01] <jsalisbury> Release metrics and incoming bug data can be reviewed at the following link:
[17:01] <jsalisbury> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kt-meeting.txt
[17:01] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Milestone Targeted Work Items (ogasawara)
[17:02] <ogasawara> dammit, 2 secs
[17:02] <ogasawara> [LINK] https://launchpad.net/~canonical-kernel-distro-team/+upcomingwork
[17:02] <ogasawara> [LINK] http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-raring/canonical-kernel-distro-team.html
[17:02] <ogasawara> || apw       || foundations-r-secure-boot                   || 1 work item  ||
[17:02] <ogasawara> ||           || foundations-r-aarch64                       || 1 work item  ||
[17:02] <ogasawara> ||           || foundations-r-upstart-user-session-enhancements || 1 work item ||
[17:02] <ogasawara> || ogasawara || hardware-r-kernel-config-review             || 1 work item ||
[17:02] <ogasawara> ||           || mobile-power-management                     || 1 work item  ||
[17:02] <ogasawara> || sforshee  || foundations-1303-phablet-kernel-maintenance || 1 work item  ||
[17:02] <ogasawara> The above summarizes the remaining work items for the 13.04 cycle.  None
[17:02] <ogasawara> are critical for the 13.04 release and some of the mobile/phablet
[17:02] <ogasawara> related items will roll forward to 13.10.
[17:02] <ogasawara> ..
[17:03]  * shadeslayer listens in
[17:03] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Status: Raring Development Kernel (ogasawara)
[17:03] <ogasawara> We are 2 days from 13.04's release.  All kernel patches submitted must
[17:03] <ogasawara> adhere to our SRU policy.  Only critical bug fixes necessary for the
[17:03] <ogasawara> 13.04 release will warrant an upload at this time.  There are currently
[17:03] <ogasawara> no plans for a 0-day SRU kernel either.
[17:03] <ogasawara>     
[17:03] <ogasawara> Important upcoming dates:
[17:03] <ogasawara>  * Thurs Apr 25 - Ubuntu 13.04 Final (2 days)
[17:03] <ogasawara> ..
[17:03] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Status: CVE's (sconklin)
[17:03] <sconklin> == 2013-04-23 (weekly) ==
[17:03] <sconklin> Currently we have 81 CVEs on our radar, with 18 CVEs added this week.
[17:03] <sconklin> See the CVE matrix for the current list:
[17:03] <sconklin> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/cve/pkg/ALL-linux.html
[17:03] <sconklin> Overall the backlog has decreased slightly this week:
[17:03] <sconklin> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/status/cve-metrics.txt
[17:03] <sconklin> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/cve/pkg/CVE-linux.txt
[17:03] <sconklin> ..
[17:04] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Status: Stable, Security, and Bugfix Kernel Updates - Quantal/Precise/Oneiric/Lucid/Hardy (bjf/henrix/sconklin)
[17:04] <sconklin> *   Lucid - In Verification; (14 commits)
[17:04] <sconklin> * Precise - In Verification; 2 upstream releases; (170 commits)
[17:04] <sconklin> * Quantal - In Verification; 2 upstream releases; (225 commits)
[17:04] <sconklin> Precise and Quantal had multiple regressions during verification.
[17:04] <sconklin> One regression has been isolated to an i915 patch which has been reverted
[17:04] <sconklin> The other is almost completely bisected.
[17:04] <sconklin> When complete, Precise and Quantal will be respun.
[17:04] <sconklin> Current opened tracking bugs details:
[17:04] <sconklin> * http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kernel-sru-workflow.html
[17:04] <sconklin> For SRUs, SRU report is a good source of information:
[17:04] <sconklin> * http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/sru-report.html
[17:04] <sconklin> Future stable cadence cycles:
[17:04] <sconklin> * https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaringRingtail/ReleaseInterlock
[17:04] <sconklin> ..
[17:04] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Open Discussion or Questions? Raise your hand to be recognized (o/)
[17:05] <shadeslayer> o/
[17:05] <jsalisbury> shadeslayer, go
[17:05] <shadeslayer> could someone expand on what's going on the arm side ?
[17:05] <shadeslayer> device enablement and all
[17:06] <ppisati> a lot :)
[17:06] <apw> shadeslayer, i think that is rather open ended, did you have something specific in mind ?
[17:08] <jsalisbury> shadeslayer, ?
[17:08] <ogasawara> maybe shadeslayer can follow up in #ubuntu-kernel
[17:08] <ogasawara> ..
[17:08] <shadeslayer> bah
[17:08] <shadeslayer> stupid internet
[17:08] <shadeslayer> I'll follow up in #ubuntu-kernel :)
[17:08] <shadeslayer> and one other question
[17:09] <jsalisbury> shadeslayer, go ahead
[17:09] <shadeslayer> mlankhorst gave me this patch http://cgit.freedesktop.org/~mlankhorst/linux/commit/?id=ae7b687c2a57ec50a9d3dde7b0a80a262fdc8c8 to get VGA switcheroo to work on the Macbook Pro
[17:09] <shadeslayer> the late 2011 model
[17:10] <shadeslayer> without it, if you try and switch from the ATI graphics chip to the intel one, the screen will turn off and not turn back on again until you reboot
[17:10] <shadeslayer> any chances of that being patched ? because that's the only missing link to get vgaswitcheroo to work on ubuntu
[17:11] <apw> shadeslayer, as people have waited till after freeze to raise it it will need to go via the SRU process
[17:11] <shadeslayer> drat, should have raised it earlier then :)
[17:12] <jsalisbury> Any other open discussions or questions?
[17:12] <ogasawara> shadeslayer: if you can, file a bug with the request and we'll get it out our todo list
[17:12] <shadeslayer> sure can do
[17:12] <shadeslayer> thanks for clearing that :)
[17:13] <shadeslayer> ogasawara: should I just file it against linux
[17:13] <shadeslayer> or some specific package?
[17:13] <apw> shadeslayer, indeed
[17:13] <ogasawara> shadeslayer: yes please
[17:13] <shadeslayer> alright
[17:13] <apw> (linux is a specific package, the kernel package)
[17:13] <ogasawara> jsalisbury: I think we can end it
[17:13] <jsalisbury> Thanks everyone
[17:13] <jsalisbury> #endmeeting
[17:13] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Apr 23 17:13:41 2013 UTC.
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[17:13] <sconklin> thanks
[17:13] <kamal> jsalisbury: thanks