/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/04/23/#ubuntu-touch.txt

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moocow1452So I built and booted Ubuntu for my Nook Color and can adb into it, what can I do about the black screen?01:01
RobbyFis the galaxy nexus (carries sold version) sim unlocked?01:11
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moocow1452ANyone home?02:30
dellhi guys I am getting Read-only file system message while trying to copy file using adb push. Does anyone had this problem?02:41
dellis there a way to copy file to device without using ssh ? mounting filesystem would be great, but fdisk does not show any such thing02:43
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libertyhi - just installed touch. trying to connect to a hidden network, any idea how?07:52
libertyhidden wifi network, i know the ssid but can't seem to get up a dialogue to connect to it...07:53
dholbachgood morning07:58
seb128dholbach, good morning to you too !08:00
highvoltagegoooooood moooooooooooooooorning!08:00
dholbach:)08:00
dholbachsalut mes amis08:00
dholbachça va?08:00
highvoltagetres bien, merci et toi?08:00
dholbachoui ça va :)08:00
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dholbachlool, salut aussi à toi!08:01
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Ramiisleemhello09:31
Dampmhall119: Hi, could you ask the SDK Developer guys today?09:38
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philipheinserGuten Morgen09:41
t1mpDamp: what's the question?09:42
philipheinserIs there a way to test ubuntu touch  apps in some sort of simulator on a pc?09:43
Dampphilipheinser: YOu can see your own apps in the "simulator" thats in QTCreator. Follow this install guide: http://developer.ubuntu.com/get-started/gomobile/09:45
Dampt1mp: Well, in QTCreator i dont have the Ubuntu Phone templates to start creating apps09:45
t1mpDamp: on raring?09:46
popeyDamp: have you installed ubuntu-sdk?09:47
popey(not just qtcreator)09:47
Damppopey: I think so :) I followed the installation guide that I just posted. http://developer.ubuntu.com/get-started/gomobile/09:47
t1mpDamp: and make sure you have the ppa listedo n http://developer.ubuntu.com/get-started/gomobile/ installed.09:48
t1mpDamp: I had to remove qtcreator, and then install it again to get the correct version after adding the ppa09:48
popeyDamp: apt-cache policy ubuntu-ui-toolkit-examples09:48
DampI ran this (sudo add-apt-repository ppa:canonical-qt5-edgers/qt5-proper && sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-sdk-team/ppa && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-sdk notepad-qml) yesterday and it said 0 new installations 0 updates09:48
popeyuh09:48
popeywhat version of ubuntu you on?09:48
Damp12.1009:48
popeyah09:49
DampThats the problem? :p09:49
DampI should use the LTS?09:49
popeyno09:49
popeyno09:49
popey09:49
popeyone moment..09:49
DampSure :)09:49
t1mpjppiiroi1en: are the templates only for raring?09:49
popeyDamp: apt-cache policy ubuntu-sdk09:49
popeycan you pastebin that?09:50
DampSure. Just let me restart my mac :P09:50
DampUbuntu does NOT work well on a macbook :(09:51
DampI seriously have to buy a new laptop to run that on09:51
Damp The wireless card on the mac is soooo slow in ubuntu! :(09:53
Damp2popey: http://pastebin.com/Zt08a4qS09:55
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popeyDamp2: hmm09:59
popeyDamp2: apt-cache policy ubuntu-ui-toolkit10:01
Damp2popey: Unable to locate package ubuntu-ui-toolkit10:01
Damp2I think you found the problem :p10:01
popey10:01
popeyinstall that, see what else it pulls in10:02
popeyqtdeclarative5-ubuntu-ui-toolkit-plugin might get pulled in10:02
Damp2should I just apt-get install ubuntu-ui-toolkit?10:02
popeyyes10:02
popeytry that, let us know what happens10:03
Damp2E: Unable to locate package ubuntu-ui-toolkit. Maybe I am missing some PPAs?10:03
popeyah, no.10:04
popeycan you apt-get install qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-ui-toolkit-plugin  ?10:04
Damp2popey: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.10:05
popeyoof10:06
Damp2Sorry :/10:06
popeynot your fault10:06
* popey points Damp2 at Mirv ☻10:06
Damp2mirv? :p10:06
popeyso when you "File -> New" you dont get ubuntu touch apps as options?10:06
Damp2Thats correct10:06
popeyhmm10:06
Damp2I can screenshot it if you wanan see?10:06
popeydo you have a devices thing on the left?10:07
Damp2reSu10:07
Damp2Yes10:07
popeyis ubuntu-ui-toolkit-examples installed?10:07
Damp20.1.42 quantal1 is installed10:08
popeyok, close qtcreator..10:09
Damp2done10:09
popeyrm ~/.config/Trolltech.conf10:09
popeyrm -rf ~/.Qtproject/10:10
popeythen restart qtcreator10:10
Damp2done10:10
popeydoes it work now?10:10
Damp2qt creator works yes?10:11
popeyyes.10:11
Damp2popey: http://imgur.com/v4ReJGO10:12
popeyhurrah, that works10:13
popeyhappy days.10:13
popeyoh, hang on, that doesn't look quite right.10:13
Damp2No?10:14
Damp2I still dont have the "ubuntu phone" options? :p10:14
popeythose are the ubuntu phone options ☻10:14
popeychoose Ubuntu UI - Simple10:14
popeyor Ubuntu UI - Tabs10:14
Damp2Wow! Yesterday I asked if "Ubuntu" was "Ubuntu phone" and people said no :p10:14
popeythose are the templates we're using for developing Ubuntu Touch.10:14
Damp2Then it has been working all along.. :p10:14
popeyOh dear, sorry about that.10:14
popeyhaha10:14
Damp2Not your faul! I didnt ask you :p10:15
Damp2But thank you so much for your help! :D10:15
popeyno probs, any time10:15
Damp2Is there any place where there are some good QML guides? to learn multiple views etc?10:15
Damp2And what does: Functional test with autopilot means?10:16
OrangerDamp2: There is not a lot of guides, QML is very young :)10:19
MirvDamp2: ok, works now? :)10:23
popeyMirv: seems the new stuff isn't backported to 12.10?10:24
Mirvpopey: so could some terminology be better somewhere?10:24
popeyso in Damp2's screenshot I dont see HTML5 apps for example10:24
popey10:24
Mirvpopey: you're right, the qtcreator in SDK Release PPA does not yet match what we released to raring last week10:25
Mirvcoming soon10:25
popey\o/10:25
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ogra_sergiusens, no image today ?10:50
DampOranger: Is there some documentation like the one Xcode has? I have seen the ubuntu.components docs, but its really shallow. Where should I look for more?10:58
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Damp2Is there some way to acces the phones features? Like the most basic example to make a "flashlight app" to the phone using the phones camera flash?11:32
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ogra_Damp2, not yet afaik .... this will likely be covered by the sensors api which is still being worked on11:42
Dampogra_ thx! :) Is there en eta on Ubuntu Phone yet?11:42
DampI bought a phone to test it, and I am wondering if I'm just gonna return it or if I'll buy a computer to run linux to program for it11:43
Damp:p11:43
ogra_the 13.10 release should see its first fully funmctional release11:43
ogra_there is an ubuntuonair talk today about the sensors api btw11:43
DampAnd the ETA for that is? :p11:43
DampWhat is Ubuntu on Air?11:44
ogra_http://ubuntuonair.com/11:44
ogra_13:00 UTC11:44
ogra_(in 75min)11:44
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ogra_you can ask questions and discuss via irc once the hangout started11:45
DampSweet11:45
DampHow will Ubuntu Phone handle App installations? Like Android, where everything can get stolen, or like app-store where apps are locked to be installed via the store?11:46
chris____good morning from Canada11:46
ogra_thats being discussed still as well ... the current method is just apt like in any other ubuntu11:47
ogra_but that will very likely change to a per-user app model11:47
ogra_its all in flux :)11:47
DampHehe. As one who is looking forward to invest in this or not, that is crucial. I hate android. There is so much piracy in small apps even tho they cost only a dollar11:47
DampWhat is the per-user app model?11:48
ogra_well, normal ubuntu packages always install system wide ... in a multi user setup like on a tablet you want to have some separation per user11:49
chris____can i change my time zone on the N4 ?  i cant see how I can11:49
ogra_chris____, see the release notes (see chanel topic)11:49
chris____thanks11:49
Damphttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes#Timezone11:49
ogra_it has a description how to change it11:49
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chris____"Alternatively you can import contacts from a csv file. The csv file should be in same format as /usr/share/demo-assets/contacts-data/data.csv. Replace the sample data.csv file with your own version and run manage-address-books.py create to import your contacts. "11:54
chris____i guess I can just mount the phone to my ubuntu box and copy / paste files?11:55
chris____i use KDE411:55
DampAh, I see. I would love if they kept the installation of applications secure so one could make some money of creating great apps :)11:55
chris____is there a way to mount the nexus4 to my ubuntubox as a device in KDE4 ?12:00
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ogra_chris____, you can use adb to transfer files or install openssh-server and access it via sshfs12:01
ogra_(sshfs over wlan indeed)12:01
Dampogra_, is it possible to make calls with the N4 or is that not implemented yet12:02
highvolt1geI would also recommend using "-o reconnect" with sshfs, so if your device is out of range and then back again it remounts.12:02
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ogra_Damp, with an unlocked SIM (without PIN) you should be able to12:03
chris____ok, i will see about the manual for that.  thanks.  i have only used adb to install Touch12:03
riteshhi12:03
DampIs there any way to unlock my sim? I made a duplicate at the store last week but I havent tried it yet12:03
riteshIts possible to install on Xperia X10i ?12:04
ogra_you should be able to remove the PIN code on an android phone12:04
ogra_ritesh, if it is on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices ... else you need to port it https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting12:04
riteshfound Xperia S and T12:06
riteshhere the problem is that Xperia no longer software update12:06
riteshand its running on 2.2.3 Android, We need to replace with suitable one12:06
riteshyour next plan list also not mention this mobile12:07
chris____"Run ip addr show wlan0 on the device "12:14
chris____how do i do that?12:14
chris____i assume "device" means "the phone" ?12:15
ogra_surely does12:15
riteshyes12:15
ogra_log in via adb, run the ubuntu_chroot shell (like described in the release notes)12:15
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ogra_sergiusens, did you see my ping above ? seems there is no daily today ...12:16
riteshIf you have idea how to install on Xperia X10i Please give me the detail.12:16
ogra_you will need to port it12:16
ogra_follow the porting howto ... or find someone on the xda developer forum that did/tried already12:16
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riteshxda dev not reliable, I found info through portal, still buggy. not function fully.12:18
riteshActually I use Ubuntu linux personal and office also.12:19
riteshso I first preffer this12:19
sergiusensogra_: I stopped the build, want the next one to be pure raring and also needed you to check if we can copy ubuntu_stamp without the raring- or quantal- in it12:19
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ogra_ok12:20
ogra_just give me a heads up once youre done, the first new sync needs to be manual to force the version bump (assuming you dont go on at #95)12:21
riteshThanks12:23
DampDoes anyone know how I kan switch "views" in a tabbed example template by pushing a button in a toolbar12:26
DampWhat is the qml command to make views "active"12:26
ogra_mhall119, ^^^12:27
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ZDmitryDamp:  You can switch tab by changing "selectetTab" or "selectedTabIndex" of Tabs item.12:44
t1mpZDmitry, Damp you can only update selectedTabIndex to switch tabs. updating selectedTab doesn't update anything.12:47
t1mpah selectedTab is marked as readonly, good :)12:47
ogra_lool, fyi https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/AndroidAutobuilds12:48
t1mpbut yeah, selectedTabIndex is the way to go12:48
ogra_lool, i'll adjust the blueprint once we have more tech details during the sprint, building on the livefs builds isnt possible12:49
ZDmitryt1mp: yes, it's my mistake. selectedTab is read only12:51
ZDmitrySo about soft keyboard in UT: how I can call it (is it possible ever)?12:53
mhall119Damp: you can set the current tab index on the Tabs component12:59
didrockssil2100: are you still block or need anything else?12:59
poutinehttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices <- This page lists Galaxy Nexus (toro), but it is not in the download here: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/daily-preinstalled/current/13:02
poutineadditionally the page for toro is just a template13:02
poutineis it a currently supported device or not?13:02
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Dampmhall119: I'm looking at the Tabs api docs now. It has two selected-options (selectedTab : Tab (preliminary)13:05
DampselectedTabIndex : int (preliminary)) Is this the one you mean?13:05
popeymhall119: I pushed akari to my ppa, its up to date in lp:akari.. want to upload to the ppa?13:06
sil2100didrocks: no, it's ok now - should I still get libhud-qt available in quantal, or we're leaving mediumtests disabled for now?13:06
didrockssil2100: I would say disabled for now. This will motivate us during the sprint as well to get everything ready :)13:06
ogra_ubuntuonair.com hangout about sensor handling in ubuntu is running right now13:07
popeyjppiiroi1en: https://code.launchpad.net/~juhapekka-piiroinen/ubuntu-qtcreator-plugins/fix-bug-1170692  - do I just "make" that/13:10
popey?13:10
popeylooks like it pulls in qtcreator and stuff, will it make a nice installable deb?13:10
mhall119Damp: selectedTabIndex should do it13:10
mhall119popey: if you've tried it and it works, go ahead and upload it13:11
Dampmhall119: So just selectedTabIndex = 3 for my third tab?13:11
popeymhall119: ok13:11
mhall119Damp: it probably starts at zero, so selectedTabIndex=2 would be for your third tab13:12
Damp:)13:13
nik90Damp, mhall119 it does start at 013:14
ZDmitrymhall119: where I can find something about soft keyboard in UT? Or how I can call it from my code (since qApp->inputMethod()->show() didn't work)13:15
mhall119tmoenicke: can a developer call up the keyboard?13:17
tmoenickemhall119: you mean show/hide?13:17
pmcgowanI would think it just comes up when the text field is entered13:17
mhall119tmoenicke: yeah, without a TextField13:18
mhall119ZDmitry is working on the terminal app13:18
pmcgowanah13:18
ZDmitryI have custom item13:18
tmoenickemhall119: you can, but it is recommended to rely on text input having focus or not13:19
ZDmitrytmoenicke: when my item get focus on desktop I can type just as usual, but on device - I can't see VKB.13:21
mhall119tmoenicke: any documentation on how to make a custom widget that does teh same as TextField?13:22
pmcgowanmhall119: whats i the notes app? thats similar13:23
mhall119as far as bringing up the keyboard when it gets focus13:23
mhall119pmcgowan: ah, good example13:23
tmoenickeZDmitry: is the maliit-server running?13:23
ZDmitryassuming yes13:24
cyphermoxcan someone enlighten me on the actual purpose of the orange blobs around the clock on the image, and one the "lock" screen ?13:25
mhall119cyphermox: they will eventually change according to the data being displayed13:26
ZDmitrytmoenicke: ps -A | grep maliit says yes13:26
mhall119to give a quick visual indication of what the data is13:26
cyphermoxmhall119: ok, like number of blobs = number of tweets13:26
cyphermoxor on the clock it's seconds or something?13:26
mhall119cyphermox: something like that, yeah13:26
cyphermoxcool, cool13:26
mhall119cyphermox: it may not be a 1:1 match13:26
mhall119but more circles == more tweets, for example13:27
mhall119so you can tell at a glance if you have "many" or "few"13:27
cyphermoxwas just curious, I was showing a daily image to coworkers.13:27
tmoenickeZDmitry: is it working elsewhere? like in the browser?13:27
mhall119cyphermox: that's what it will do eventually13:28
ZDmitrytmoenicke: it works on standard items like TextField13:28
cyphermoxmhall119: great, thanks13:28
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tmoenickeZDmitry: you're writing your own textfield?13:29
DampHow does the ubuntu phone save data from your app? If I was to make a notepad app, where would the notes be stored and how?13:31
mhall119Damp: you have a couple options13:31
mhall119LocalStorage, which gives you an sqlite database13:31
ZDmitrytmoenicke: I'm writing terminal emulator qml item for terminal app13:31
mhall119or U1DB, which also gives you an sqlite database, but will allow you to sync your data between devices13:31
h01gerso phablet-flash -b downloads+installs quantal-preinstalled-system-armel+mako.img - how to make it install raring? is this because i have 0.7-0phablet1 of phablet-tools installed?13:32
ZDmitrytmoenicke: that item  can accept focus and keyboard events13:32
ZDmitrytmoenicke: I thought that calling  qApp->inputMethod()->show() is enough.13:34
ogra_h01ger, look at the install wikipage, there is a maual method (and i think sergiusens has also a python extension for phablet-flash now)13:34
tmoenickeZDmitry: QInputMethod sends you a QInputMethodQueryEvent asking if Input method is enabled for it, you would have to reply with setting it to true13:34
ogra_we will default to raring within the next days in phablet-flash13:34
mhall119\o/13:35
mhall119h01ger: http://www.theorangenotebook.com/2013/04/testing-ubunutu-touch-images-now-with.html13:36
h01gerogra_, thanks! even found raring images now :)13:36
mhall119has instructions for getting and testing the raring images13:36
ZDmitrytmoenicke: I know. I have replied with true on that request. But for something went wrong. I'll make one more test.13:37
jppiiroi1enpopey: just copy stuff in qtcreator/share/qtcreator to /usr/share/qtcreator13:37
sergiusensh01ger: well if you have 0.7 you have the ppa:phablet-team/tools ppa disabled13:37
sergiusensyou should enable as next build out is going to be raring only13:38
h01gerok, and instead of going the fully manual route i will jsut edit /usr/share/pyshared/phabletutils/settings.py :-)13:39
h01gersergiusens, i'm on wheezy anyway...13:39
* h01ger guesses he shall upgrade phablet-tools too :-) 13:41
jhodappmterry, ping13:42
sergiusensh01ger: bzr branch lp:phablet-tools and use it from there... update often though for latest13:44
h01gersergiusens, thanks. (though my bzr foo is little i will manage to clone that repo)13:45
mterryjhodapp, hi13:45
jhodappmterry, any idea why nobody has reviewed your MR yet? https://code.launchpad.net/~mterry/phablet-extras/libhybris-no-gles/+merge/15816013:45
jhodappmterry, that's causes a build failure when I tried to do an MR against libhybris: https://code.launchpad.net/~jhodapp/phablet-extras/add-vasprintf-hook13:46
h01gersergiusens, i've been thinking about uploading phablet-tools to debian sid (so it will end up in jessie too) - what do you think?13:46
jhodappmterry, I need your MR before my MR will build successfully13:46
mterryjhodapp, I think your MR might have failed because quantal still has the old mesa, eh?13:47
mterrysergiusens, is the phablet team ready to switch to raring?13:47
jhodappmterry, not sure, but it shouldn't fail, especially when my MR had nothing to do with OpenGL13:47
mterryjhodapp, well, I can't seem to get the build log failure, I get a 404 on those links13:48
mterryjhodapp, but I'm guessing that you fixed a ftbfs in raring because the mesa headers changed13:48
rsalvetiChickenCutlass: tvoss: lool: ogra_: dholbach: sforshee: thanks!13:48
dholbachHUGS!13:48
ogra_:)13:48
tvossrsalveti, thanks :)13:48
Dampogra_ what is all this raring your guys are talking about?13:49
mterryjhodapp, but since we still build in both quantal and raring...  we need to make the change conditional13:49
ogra_Damp, the release name of the ubuntu release that will come out on thu.13:49
ogra_also known as 13.0413:49
DampI see13:49
sergiusensmterry: the switch started to happen yesterday13:50
jhodappmterry, yeah...any chance you can add that conditional to fix13:50
ogra_Damp, all ubuntu touch dailies were based on 12.10 ... within the next days we will switch over to default to 13.0413:50
sergiusensmterry: we are just waiting on the medium tests thing to shutdown quantal completely13:50
jhodappmterry, my MR's build issue?13:50
ogra_Damp, which will not last very long ... then we will switch to the 13.10 developer release as a base13:50
sergiusensmterry: jobs should switch soon to only build on raring...13:51
mterrysergiusens, ok13:51
sergiusensmterry: feel free to do it for hybris if yu have the time, if not I'll be getting a blanket MR for all later today13:51
mterrysergiusens, what do you mean about the mediumtest thing?13:52
sergiusensmterry: medium tests, that run with every merge are still on quantal... fginther and mzanetti are working on it13:52
mterrysergiusens, ok13:52
mterryjhodapp, let's switch the config to only build libhybris on raring, then try to merge again13:53
fginthermterry, sergiusens, the mediumtests have been disabled for everything except unity/phablet so far13:53
mterryjhodapp, I can do that13:53
jhodappmterry, perfect...we can just have jenkins try to rebuild then13:53
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mterrysergiusens, here's libhybris: https://code.launchpad.net/~mterry/cupstream2distro-config/raring-libhybris/+merge/16037613:59
rsalvetijhodapp: I'm on your mr14:16
rsalvetijhodapp: just had to fix a build issue first14:16
jhodappthanks rsalveti14:16
rsalvetijhodapp: https://code.launchpad.net/~rsalveti/phablet-extras/libhybris_update_build_raring_mesa/+merge/16026414:16
rsalvetithen will take care of yours and the other from mterry14:16
rsalvetisergiusens: latest raring from ibs has the correct source list already :-)14:17
rsalvetithen later today we need to try the unity-next stuff14:17
mterryrsalveti, oh14:17
mterryrsalveti, sorry, was talking to jhodapp above about your merge failing on quantal because the mesa change happened between Q and R, eh?  So your changes would need to be conditional.  But instead, I'm dropping quantal builds for libhybris.14:18
mterryrsalveti, change coming soon14:18
rsalvetimterry: we don't need to care about quantal anymore :-)14:18
rsalvetiand this will need further cleanup to use the upstream version of hybris anyway14:19
mterryrsalveti, just in time for R's actual release14:19
rsalvetiyeah14:19
ogra_heh14:19
ogra_"in time"14:19
rsalvetiogra_: details ;-)14:19
ogra_:)14:19
mterryogra_, fine, "early" for R's actual release   ;)14:20
rsalvetiyeah ;-)14:20
ogra_:)14:20
mterryrsalveti, can you kick your job again?  the raring-only change should be active14:21
rsalvetimterry: sure14:21
mterryfginther, right?  For CI job changes, the branch just needs to be merged, there's not a manual step afterwards?14:21
ogra_oh sigh ... it just struck me that assembling the debian/copyrigyt for the android image package might actually be quite some effort ...14:22
ogra_probably even the biggest in creating that package ...14:22
sergiusensogra_: changelog bigger than the orig.tar? :-P14:23
ogra_copyright, but yeah :)14:23
ogra_i guess there are a ton of different licenses14:23
sergiusensyeah, sorry, always use them mixed up14:23
ogra_"that c file in the debian dir" :)14:24
sergiusensogra_: mostly apache for the android stuff14:24
sergiusensogra_: /external is going to be the varying one14:24
ogra_yeah, but we have prebuilt binaries etc14:24
rsalvetiogra_: jezz, that will be a pain indeed14:24
rsalvetijust say it's whatever is described at phablet.ubuntu.com haha14:25
ogra_heh14:25
ogra_i could try ... though i would have to have it ready before the sprint ...14:25
ogra_then we just need enough alcohol and an archive admin in the bar14:26
ogra_(and a laptop)14:26
rsalveti:-)14:26
rsalvetithat can all be arranged14:26
fginthermterry, correct. Just re-approve a merge proposal to retry the autolanding and merge14:26
ogra_haha14:26
bcpHi! I've flashed Ubuntu on my Nexus 4. I logged via ssh and realized that the sensorservice process is consumming the CPU 90% (I think this could be also the reason why my battery goes flat in a couple of hours)14:26
bcpany idea how to stop/kill this process and why this is happening?14:27
didrocksogra_: count me in for the alcohol, but the price will be high so that I approve :)14:28
didrocksogra_: then, I'll take the double for the MIR ;)14:28
ogra_rsalveti, you read that above right ? and the channel is logged ?14:28
* ogra_ copy pastes didrocks words as well ... to have a proof 14:29
didrocksahah ;)14:29
rsalvetihahah :-)14:29
ogra_:)14:29
mterrysergiusens, so a big merge dropping all the quantal stuff is planned today?14:30
rsalvetiquantal is no more14:30
sergiusensmterry: yes, was supposed to do it yesterday, but got delayed... that and phablet-land for everything in daily release14:30
ogra_pmcgowan, sergiusens , rsalveti , whats with monthly-04 vs monthly-04.1 ... do we want to keep both ?14:31
rsalvetiogra_: I believe we can kill monthly-0.414:31
sergiusensogra_: no, we probably only want the .114:31
rsalvetisergiusens: ^?14:31
ogra_k14:31
rsalvetiI just hate when manta is out of battery14:31
rsalvetitakes ages to charge14:32
sergiusensrsalveti: lower the brightness14:32
rsalvetisergiusens: was 'suspended'14:32
rsalvetiguess our network stack keeps it running all the time14:32
ogra_remove /etc/init.d/ondemand ;)14:33
sergiusensrsalveti: yeah, doesn't suspend14:33
ogra_that helps a lot over here ... thogh for keeping the load down during operation, not sure it has impact on suspend too14:33
ogra_we urgently need to re-do that crap14:34
rsalvetiguess it's a wakelock issue here14:34
mhall119kenvandine: do we have docs packages for Accounts and Friends?14:36
kenvandinemhall119, not yet14:39
kenvandinemhall119, but that is on my todo list for this week14:39
mhall119ok14:41
rsalvetimterry: sergiusens: https://code.launchpad.net/~rsalveti/phablet-extras/libhybris_update_build_raring_mesa/+merge/16038314:41
rsalvetistill used quantal14:41
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mhall119kalikiana: http://developer.ubuntu.com/api/ubuntu-12.10/qml/u1db/overview.html14:44
kalikianamhall119, sweet!14:52
mterrysergiusens, do you know why the above used quantal?14:52
sergiusensmterry: probably because the merge happened but the push of cu....distro-config didn't ... the job still has quantal14:53
mterrysergiusens, it looks like it started over at build number 1, so it is using the new libhybris-specific config14:53
mterrysergiusens, how does the push happen?14:53
sergiusensmterry: manually...14:53
mterrysergiusens, oh.  hmm.  Is that "deploying" the config?14:55
mhall119rsalveti: how are the 3 core apps currently being pulled into the daily image builds?14:55
sergiusensmterry: yeah14:55
mterrysergiusens, ah...14:55
sergiusensmhall119: rule in our live-build/offspring stuff14:55
mhall119sergiusens: so when we change the package names to drop the ubuntu-, we'll need to let you know so you can change it14:56
mhall119right?14:56
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mhall119does it need to be all of them at once, we can we do them one at a time as the package rename changes land?14:57
sergiusensmhall119: yup, that's what we talked about :-)14:57
rsalvetimhall119: right, can be one at a time14:57
sergiusensmhall119: just gradually14:57
mhall119ok, thanks14:57
mterrydidrocks, I made a change to a phablet stack's CI config.  But it's not taking effect.  I have to deploy it somehow, but you said the cu2d-update-stack was just for daily-release stuff, which phablet isn't.  How do I deploy a phablet config?14:59
sergiusensmterry: I'm looking into it... getting an error, might be easier to ask fginther15:00
sergiusensmterry: supposedly it's just ./ci/cu2d-update-ci stacks/phablet/extras.cfg15:00
mterrysergiusens, ah..  but you get an error on that?15:00
sergiusensmterry: yes connection refused... it worked last time I used it so not sure15:01
fginthermterry, I'll take a look15:02
mterryhrm.  I get credentials not found.  I must never have set this script up15:03
fginthermterry, the cu2d-update-ci looks for credentials under ci-jenkins15:04
sergiusensfginther: I have those, but get a urllib connection refused... ah15:05
sergiusensfginther: ip change on jenkins!15:05
sergiusensmterry: fginther deployed15:06
fginthersergiusens, thanks15:06
mterrysergiusens, awesome, thanks15:07
sergiusensseems the change did not have an effect on jenkins though :-/15:08
* h01ger has upgraded (with phablet-tools) his nexus4 to raring but now the ui flickers heavily..15:15
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ZDmitrytmoenicke: may I ask You one more question?16:32
ZDmitryI'm bit slow. Not admit disconnection...16:39
stdis it possible to install ubuntuphone on a rasberry pi?16:41
ogra_std, no16:47
stdlame16:48
ogra_well, make the RPi use proper hardware and it will become possible ...16:48
rsalvetimterry: happroved https://code.launchpad.net/~mterry/phablet-extras/libhybris-no-gles/+merge/15816016:48
ogra_rsalveti, btw, would be funny to port to the new beaglebone :)16:53
rsalvetiogra_: indeed16:53
mterryrsalveti, thanks!16:54
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rsalvetijhodapp: mr happroved17:04
jhodappthanks rsalveti17:05
mptJust posted the winning layout for System Settings overview on phone. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemSettings#phone17:11
ogra_what did it win ?17:12
mterrySaviq, !! my lightdm merge finally passed the ci bot.  :)17:12
mptogra_, the promise of existence17:14
ogra_:)17:15
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mhall119popey: in this week's IRC meetings, can we get any incomplete or postponed work items from the -month-0 milestone retargetted to -month-1?17:45
sergiusensrsalveti: lp:touch-preview-images/livebuild17:56
sergiusensrsalveti: offsrping is going to be switched to that17:56
sergiusensmhall119: popey you can create MRs against this when you want to add or rename packages http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/touch-preview-images/livebuild/view/head:/chroot_local-packageslists/apps.list17:58
shadeslayerChickenCutlass: uh, the root=/data didn't quite work btw18:01
ChickenCutlassshadeslayer: where is you rootfs?  is it on /data18:02
shadeslayerI mount it on /data18:02
ChickenCutlassshadeslayer: are you at the end of init in the ramdisk?  WHere it trys to run /sbin/init on the new rootfs18:03
shadeslayeryeah, that's what I'm going to check, I suspect it's hanging at the point where it was last hanging18:03
shadeslayerwhich is mounting the rootfs18:03
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mhall119sergiusens: noted, thanks18:06
ogra_did you set root=/data on the kernel cmdline ?18:06
shadeslayerI did indeedly18:06
ogra_yeah, that wont work18:07
shadeslayeroh?18:07
ogra_it would look for a device /data18:07
ogra_which it indeed cant find18:08
sergiusensogra_: is syncing off?18:08
ChickenCutlassshadeslayer: I modified the init script drectly.  did not use the kernel command line18:08
shadeslayeraha18:08
shadeslayerChickenCutlass: care to share :)18:08
ChickenCutlassshadeslayer: modify the rootmnt env var18:09
ogra_look at /usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/local18:09
ogra_sepcifically the mountroot function18:09
ogra_thats what mounts your root devices18:09
ogra_-s18:09
ogra_ChickenCutlass, why ?18:10
ogra_ChickenCutlass, once run-init was executed it will be / anyway ...  and /data as a mountpoint doesnt exist in the initrd18:10
ChickenCutlassogra_: I set rootmnt to /data/ubuntu and manually mounted /dev/block/mmcp23 to /data18:10
ogra_ah18:10
ogra_right, but thats a moot step18:11
ogra_since run-init will change it to / in any case18:11
ChickenCutlassogra_: so that all works -- ut when run-init starts -- the phone reboots18:11
ChickenCutlassogra_: even after turning off watchdog18:11
ogra_yeah18:11
shadeslayerit still reboots after turning off the watchdog? :D18:12
ogra_i guess your prob is that you want to enter /data/ubuntu18:12
ogra_not just /data18:12
ChickenCutlassshadeslayer: for me -- but only after trying to launch upstart18:12
ogra_run-init will just turn /data into /18:12
ogra_its pretty dumb18:13
ChickenCutlassogra_: let me try and move everything up a level18:13
ogra_so what you want is: mount /dev/block/mmcp23 to /temptootmount (or so) ... and then bindmount /temptootmount/ubuntu to /root18:14
ogra_and leave the script just do its job ...18:14
ChickenCutlassok18:14
ChickenCutlasslet me try18:14
shadeslayerhow about just mounting the block to /root directly?18:15
ogra_effectively we should have a "mount by label" subfubnction in mountroot (and if it knows it is an android base it also should do the bind mounting)18:15
ogra_so you can just say root+label:userdata on your kernel cmdline and it does the right thing18:16
ogra_err18:16
ogra_root=18:16
ogra_shadeslayer, should work if it has the rotfs at the toplevel18:16
ogra_*rootfs18:16
ogra_the prob here is the ubuntu subdir ... it needs to reside at root/18:17
shadeslayermy biggest fear is that I'm placing my mount call in the wrong location18:17
ogra_as a toplevel dir18:17
ogra_shadeslayer, arent you after a plain ubuntu anyway ?18:17
shadeslayerI am indeed18:17
ogra_so there ids no need for you to jump through all these hoops18:18
shadeslayerogra_: though I suspect I'll need files from /system for things like wifi :/18:18
ogra_just make sure /dev/mmcwhatever has your /18:18
shadeslayerthat's what I was trying to do18:18
ogra_the prob with ubuntu touch is that it lives in a subdir ... so that needs compensation ... i'm not sure a bind mount will survive run-init though18:19
shadeslayerheh18:19
ogra_but it should ... all tempdirs survive as well18:19
shadeslayerogra_: so I just put a mount call at the top of my initrd to mount /dev/block/platform/dw_mmc.0/by-name/userdata as / ?18:19
shadeslayeror /root?18:20
ogra_and i think we isitially used a bindmount for /dev18:20
shadeslayerfrom reading the init it seems like rootmnt is /root18:20
ogra_shadeslayer, no, dont touch your initrd at all ...18:20
shadeslayeroh18:20
ogra_just set the right root= option on your kernel cmdline18:20
shadeslayerI tried that :S18:20
shadeslayerdidn't work18:20
ogra_well, it should18:20
shadeslayerI set root=/dev/block/platform/dw_mmc.0/by-name/userdata18:21
ogra_what did it do ?18:21
ogra_no18:21
ogra_you want the actual device name18:21
shadeslayerah18:21
shadeslayeryou mean /dev/block/mmcblk0p918:21
ogra_/dev/block/platform/dw_mmc.0/by-name/userdata is a link ... use the device it points to18:21
shadeslayerI tried that as well18:21
ogra_yeah18:21
ogra_now you are using ubuntus udev ...18:21
shadeslayerright18:22
ogra_are you sure /dev/block even exists ?18:22
ogra_thats an android dir :)18:22
shadeslayerhm, good point, I didn't check18:22
ogra_try /dev/mmcblk0p9 and see18:22
shadeslayerokay18:22
ogra_(and indeed be sure to have a properly working rootfs there)18:23
ChickenCutlassogra_: same problem18:23
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ChickenCutlassogra_: just reboots after trying to run run-init18:23
ogra_ChickenCutlass,  i'll sit down on my n7 tomorrow and try some things ...18:23
ChickenCutlassok18:23
ogra_i suspect the /dev/blok thing might be an issue18:24
ogra_*block18:24
ChickenCutlassogra_: so root is mounted -- it gets past the check for /root/sbin/init18:24
ogra_not sure if devtmpfs even creates such a subdir18:24
ogra_ah18:24
* shadeslayer will still need to mount the Android system partition to get wifi to work18:26
shadeslayerso many proprietary files in there :/18:26
ogra_are you sure there is no linux driver for the wifi ?18:26
ogra_(do you know which chipset it is etc ? )18:27
shadeslayerI don't know if there's a driver, but look at https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_device_samsung_manta/blob/cm-10.1/cm-proprietary-blobs.txt18:28
shadeslayerseems like it's a Broadcom 4324118:28
ogra_you might be able to just use an in kernel broadcom driver but lose some features18:31
shadeslayerhmmm18:31
ogra_https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/1388591/18:31
shadeslayerogra_: can't I just mount the system partition once ubuntu is up18:31
shadeslayermount it to /system18:32
ogra_sure18:32
shadeslayerand voila kernel just picks up the firmware from there18:32
shadeslayerhmm18:34
shadeslayerif I pass root=/dev/mmcblk0p9 it just reboots18:34
ogra_with a plain unhacked initrd18:35
shadeslayeryep18:36
ogra_and an ext4 filesystem that has / on that device ?18:36
shadeslayeryep18:36
ogra_hmm, then it might actually be /dev/block18:36
ogra_s/be/have/18:36
shadeslayeroh wait18:37
shadeslayerogra_: [    8.874121] EXT4-fs (mmcblk0p9): mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. Opts: (null)18:37
shadeslayer:D18:37
ogra_aha18:37
shadeslayerit panics shortly afterwards18:38
ogra_so next question is ... does run-init run18:38
shadeslayerhttp://paste.kde.org/73077218:38
ogra_hmm18:38
ogra_are you 100% sure your fs is proper ? where did you get it from ?18:38
shadeslayerdebootstrapped it18:39
ogra_hmm18:40
shadeslayersudo debootstrap --verbose --arch armhf --foreign --include=btrfs-tools,locales,kbd,wpasupplicant,openssh-server raring kubuntu/18:40
ogra_http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily-preinstalled/current/raring-preinstalled-desktop-armhf+ac100.tar.gz18:40
ogra_try that18:40
shadeslayerthen I put qemu-arm-static in kubuntu/usr/bin and finished debootstraping18:40
shadeslayerwill do18:40
shadeslayerwill take a bit to download :)18:41
shadeslayermmm recovery has tar, I can just unpack it then18:42
ogra_zcat /path/to/tarball |tar --numeric-owner x18:43
ogra_thats what you want18:43
ccvvccwhen is the release date of this great os18:44
ChickenCutlassogra_: so that is better18:46
ChickenCutlassogra_: just passed root=/dev/mmcblkp2318:46
ChickenCutlassogra_: not rebooting now18:46
ccvvcchow to get the dock of ubuntu os?18:46
shadeslayerChickenCutlass: :D18:47
shadeslayerI didn't realize that /dev/block was Android specific18:47
ccvvccubuntu for android == ubuntu touch?18:48
ogra_ChickenCutlass, yay18:48
ogra_ccvvcc, no18:48
shadeslayerogra_: can I push the tar to the userdata partition and zcat it there itself?18:49
ogra_ccvvcc, ubuntu for android is like an android app :) ubuntu touch is a full OS18:49
shadeslayerthat won't corrupt the tar right?18:49
ogra_shadeslayer, as you like ... as long as it ends up as / there18:49
shadeslayerokay18:49
ogra_it should even bring up X18:49
shadeslayerfancy18:49
ogra_so you should have a chance to hack it to get a user and an xterm up for further work18:50
shadeslayerogra_: I'll settle for ext4 coming up :P18:50
shadeslayers/ext4/root18:50
ogra_heh18:50
ogra_if a missing kernel option doesnt kill upstart it should just work18:51
shadeslayer^_^18:51
ogra_hmm, though there might be plymouth bits that get in your way18:51
shadeslayerogra_: I'll have to write a blog post if this works :P18:51
shadeslayeroh18:52
ogra_:)18:52
shadeslayerand maybe buy you a beer or two18:52
shadeslayerogra_: how difficult would it be for you to setup a rootfs build that pulls in kubuntu-active and the armsoc driver for the Nexus 10?18:53
shadeslayerso that if this works, we can try that out next :)18:53
ogra_shadeslayer, well, i tried with Riddell to do that for the nexus7 ... but it kind of fell off the table18:54
shadeslayeryeah, I'm going to have a look at the N7 when/if I meet him18:54
shadeslayersame process for the N7 :P18:55
shadeslayerbuild kernel > enable fbcon > flail about a bit > poke ogra_ with issues ;)18:55
ogra_yeah, might be that you get hit by plymouth18:55
ogra_haha18:55
ogra_ChickenCutlass, did you keep the override files in place for plymouth ?18:56
shadeslayerI don't like tegra however18:56
* ogra_ does18:56
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ogra_its the easiest to handle due to the binary blob and the kernels are too androidized so that you can usually switch off the android stuff and still build g_serial for example18:56
ogra_*are not too18:57
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shadeslayerogra_: you clearly haven't used the TF10118:59
shadeslayeroh the joys of flashing the TF101 with kernelblobs18:59
shadeslayerand hitting size limits18:59
dobeyhey all. is there a technical document anywhere describing various user interaction and app expectations for phone/tablet? in particular, window stacking and multi-process/multitasking behavior and expectations for apps?19:00
ogra_i have a tf101 here ... havent booted it in ages and never even tried to get ubuntu on it19:01
ChickenCutlassogra_: yes19:01
ogra_ok, good19:01
shadeslayerogra_: yeah, it's a PITA19:03
shadeslayerogra_: I've had it for about a year now19:03
shadeslayerI went crazy during the time I tried to work19:04
ogra_the n7 was a pleasure to port to :)19:04
shadeslayerlilstevie gets the award for patience though19:04
shadeslayerhehe19:04
ogra_shadeslayer, so you definitely want to move all /etc/init/plymouth*.conf files out of the way19:05
doomlordi still havent't got round to trying ubuntu on my n719:05
shadeslayerogra_: will do19:05
shadeslayerogra_: something to investigate once all of this is done, fbcon :P19:06
shadeslayerwhy does it not work19:06
shadeslayerand maybe try to make it work19:06
ogra_yeah19:06
ogra_will likely need kernel patches though19:07
shadeslayerfine with me ;)_19:07
ogra_yeah, with me too ... as long as i dont have to write them :)19:07
shadeslayerhaha19:07
shadeslayerwe can find someone in #ubuntu-kernel :P19:08
mhall119bzoltan1: can you have someone look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1171973 please19:09
ubot5Launchpad bug 1171973 in Ubuntu UI Toolkit "Swiping between tabs from content don't work" [Undecided,New]19:09
* ogra_ has patched kernels in his life ... but never with code i would show to anyone 19:09
shadeslayerxD19:10
shadeslayerI've patched kernels too, but with other people's code :P19:10
ogra_yeah, that i didnt count19:10
dobeyor is there anyone specific that would be good to ask about that sort of thing?19:11
ogra_dobey, probably mtp19:12
ogra_err19:12
ogra_mpt ... i know he is no protocol ...19:12
shadeslayer:D19:12
dobeympt: ^^ if you're still around, are you the person to ask about details regarding window stacking and multi-process/multitasking bits of the new world order of phablet converged ubuntu?19:15
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shadeslayerfun19:16
shadeslayerthere's /sys/class/leds/as3668/color19:16
shadeslayerso I can maybe control the color of the LED on the N1019:16
bzoltan1mhall119:  I know it sounds unpleasant, but that is how it suppose to work. It is a decision made by design -> http://design.ubuntu.com/apps/building-blocks/tabs and  http://design.ubuntu.com/apps/global-patterns/navigation19:25
heyhi19:27
heycan touch be downloaded on micro sd card and dual boot phone19:28
ogra_no19:28
ogra_there are some hacks to do dual boot on the xda forums ... but an upgrade could break that since ubuntu touch doesnt support it19:29
heythanks19:29
pmcgowanbzoltan1: the new qtc looks great19:29
ogra_so the hack might just be overwritten19:29
shadeslayerruh roh19:30
shadeslayerogra_: zcat: write: Broken pipe19:30
ogra_wow19:31
ogra_so your android shell doesnt know how to pipe ? or does tar not work ?19:31
shadeslayerI have no idea19:32
shadeslayerI could zcat it locally and adb sync it19:32
ogra_well, it will grow quite a bit19:32
shadeslayeroh19:33
shadeslayerwel19:33
shadeslayerif I place the 'x' after tar it works :)19:33
ogra_err19:33
ogra_yeah19:33
ogra_heh19:33
shadeslayerso zcat foo.tar.gz | tar x --numeric-owner19:33
shadeslayer:P19:33
ogra_sorry19:34
shadeslayernp ;)19:34
shadeslayerdone, fingers crossed, rebooting19:34
shadeslayerdidn't reboot, so far so good19:35
shadeslayerno GUI as well19:35
shadeslayeroh drat19:35
shadeslayerforgot about plymouth19:36
ogra_i was about to say19:36
shadeslayer:D19:36
ogra_but that would have caused a hard reboot most likely19:36
ogra_it definitely does on tegra ... so you might be past that point19:36
shadeslayer/proc/last_kmsg has garbled messages about tty's19:37
shadeslayer[   57.459863] init: tty3 main process ended, respawning19:37
shadeslayerbut removing just incase19:37
shadeslayerah, I don't think I have CONFIG_VT enabled19:38
shadeslayerwould that cause issues?19:38
ChickenCutlassshadeslayer: yes19:38
shadeslayerokay, I'll enable CONFIG_VT19:38
ogra_yeah19:38
shadeslayerhmm screen flashed19:41
shadeslayerI'll take that as a good sign19:41
shadeslayerprobably something tried to start but failed19:42
ogra_yeah19:42
shadeslayerbunch of garbled messages in last_kmsg19:43
ogra_mount the partition from recovery and have a look at /var/log/19:43
shadeslayerack19:43
ogra_i think you have it booting ...19:43
ogra_but still issues19:43
shadeslayerindeed ;)19:43
ogra_see if it gets to starting X19:44
ogra_there is definitely no Xorg.0.log in the tarball :)19:44
shadeslayerit does :D19:44
shadeslayerit has an Xorg.0.log19:44
ogra_yay19:44
shadeslayer:D19:44
ogra_you should be able to chroot19:44
ogra_so you can less it etc19:44
shadeslayerhttp://paste.kde.org/73081419:45
shadeslayerthat's Xorg.0.log19:45
shadeslayerdmesg http://paste.kde.org/73082019:45
ogra_hah19:45
ogra_it even started19:45
shadeslayer:D19:45
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shadeslayerwhoops at dmesg19:47
shadeslayerhttp://paste.kde.org/73082619:47
shadeslayerhmm19:48
shadeslayerI wonder if I can make it mount /dev/block/mmcblk0p8 on /system in etc/fstab19:48
shadeslayerand then it won't complaint about missing firmware19:49
ogra_ir still will19:49
ogra_*it19:49
shadeslayeroh, why?19:49
ogra_you need to copy /system/lib/firmware to /lib/firmware i think19:50
shadeslayernot quite19:50
shadeslayerthe manta kernel passes the firmware paths, hardcoded into the config19:50
ogra_well, then create /system and mount it19:50
shadeslayerCONFIG_BCMDHD_FW_PATH="/system/vendor/firmware/fw_bcmdhd.bin"19:50
ogra_dmesg talks about /lib/firmware19:50
shadeslayermmm19:51
ogra_but try the mount19:51
ogra_seems to be easy to find out if it works19:51
shadeslayerdone, lets see if it works19:53
shadeslayerhmm, nope19:54
ogra_well, whats weird is that X doesnt show up ... even though it starts without error19:55
shadeslayerthat's what I'm thinking as well19:55
ogra_might be a backlight controller issue19:55
shadeslayernppe19:55
shadeslayer*nope19:55
shadeslayerI can clearly tell there's alot of backlight19:56
shadeslayerthe screen isn't 'off'19:56
ogra_k19:56
shadeslayerogra_: maybe it's on the wrong tty?19:56
ogra_not the wrong tty but the wrong display19:56
shadeslayerwrong *display* ? :P19:56
shadeslayerhow can it be on the wrong display19:56
shadeslayerthere is just one xD19:57
ogra_well, output ...19:57
shadeslayerhmm19:58
ogra_there is likely a HDMI out internally19:58
shadeslayerI'll try and get adb up19:58
shadeslayerthen maybe we can debug19:58
ogra_iirc that tablet supports attaching HDMI with an adapter19:58
ogra_though it clearly gets a modeline somehow19:58
shadeslayerbah, no adb :/20:06
ogra_how do you try to run it ?20:07
shadeslayerogra_: put an entry in rc.local20:08
shadeslayer/sbin/adbd &20:08
shadeslayerand it still complains about firmware20:08
shadeslayereven though I copied it to /lib/firmware20:08
bobweaverGood Idea or bad Idea. any feed back is awesome thanks.   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfvCUjf7HJs20:09
ogra_shadeslayer, where does that  adbd come from ?20:09
ogra_(in /sbin)20:09
shadeslayerfrom the recovery20:10
shadeslayerit's a standalone binary20:10
ogra_well20:11
ogra_it doesnt link to bionic ?20:11
ogra_(which you dont have in ubuntu, we use libc)20:11
shadeslayeruh, it said :         not a dynamic executable20:11
shadeslayererm20:11
shadeslayerldd said20:11
ogra_file ?20:12
shadeslayeryou want me to host the file somewhere?20:12
ogra_no, what does the file command say20:12
shadeslayeradbd: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, ARM, version 1 (SYSV), statically linked, stripped20:13
ogra_hmm, k20:13
ogra_though its likely compiled for ARMv6 ...20:13
ogra_but even that shouldnt stop it from starting20:13
shadeslayerwould that make a difference even though if it's statically compiled20:13
shadeslayeryeah20:14
shadeslayerhttp://paste.kde.org/730844/20:14
shadeslayerthat's what I have20:14
ogra_i guess you miss some device setup that android would do for you20:14
ogra_ah20:15
ogra_hmm20:15
ogra_hard to tell ... redirect the output to a file20:15
shadeslayeryeah doing that20:15
ogra_does sdbd have any options ?20:15
ogra_-vvvvvv20:15
ogra_or some such :)20:16
shadeslayerit doesn't implement -h :P20:16
ogra_hah20:16
shadeslayereh20:19
shadeslayerno /var/log/adbd.log20:19
ogra_heh20:19
ogra_touch it :P20:19
ogra_oh, you mean it didnt output20:19
ogra_i thought that was the error msg20:19
shadeslayeryeah20:19
shadeslayerit didn't output20:20
ogra_hos did you set up the redirect ?20:20
shadeslayerthough rc.local magically changed permissions to 66620:20
ogra_*how20:20
shadeslayer/sbin/adbd &> /var/log/adbd.log &20:20
ogra_lol20:20
ogra_thats a bashism20:20
shadeslayeroh god20:20
shadeslayer*headesk*20:21
ogra_/sbin/adbd >/var/log/adbd.log 2>&1 &20:21
shadeslayerright20:21
shadeslayerhate shell :/20:21
ogra_<3 shell20:22
ogra_as long as its POSIX20:22
shadeslayerI suspect I'll have to strace it20:24
shadeslayeryeah, still nothing20:24
ogra_you might hang at the echo above ...20:24
shadeslayerhmm20:24
ogra_try adding || true20:25
ogra_to both ends of the lines20:25
ogra_(both echos)20:25
shadeslayerogra_: what then?20:29
ogra_?20:29
shadeslayeruh I meant, how can I tell if it hung at the switch after adding || true20:30
ogra_if it didnt, you should have a file ...20:31
shadeslayereh lol20:31
shadeslayerIt doesn't even run rc.local20:31
shadeslayerI put : echo "Disabling usb for adb switch" > /var/log/adbd.log20:31
shadeslayeras the first thing in rc.local20:32
shadeslayerand /var/log/adbd.log is still empty20:32
shadeslayer*but*20:32
shadeslayerI see : [   18.918466] android_usb: already disabled20:32
shadeslayer[   18.933087] warning: `adbd' uses 32-bit capabilities (legacy support in use)20:32
shadeslayerin dmesg20:32
shadeslayermeh, let's just use openssh over usb, if possible20:34
ogra_well, i'll call it a day ... good luck :)20:38
shadeslayerbye :)20:38
shadeslayerthanks :)20:38
ogra_:)20:38
bregmaanyone around who can help me reflash my Nexus7 with the latest phablet image?20:40
bregmaadb devices won;t recognize it even though I see it through dmesg and lsusb20:40
bregmaI fear I'm doing something wrong20:41
pmcgowanbregma: whats it go on it now20:43
pmcgowangot20:43
bregmait's got a current Ubuntu desktop image20:43
pmcgowanbregma: then you need to do the manual instructions I think20:44
bregmathey seem to require adb see the device, too20:44
pmcgowanis sergiusens around?20:44
bregmaI can use fastboot to reboot it, so it's talking to my system20:44
RobbyFphablet-flash isn't working for me atm, but I think that's because of raring change over taking place atm20:45
pmcgowandid ogra_ leave? I think he did this onhis20:46
pmcgowanbregma: have you used adb to the device before?20:47
pmcgowantry another usb port, check the cable, etc have been known to happen20:48
bregmawell, I've flashed it with Ubuntu images before, so I assume so20:48
pmcgowanhmm20:48
bregmamm, right, Pournelle's Law (it's usually a cable)20:48
sergiusenspmcgowan: I'm around20:51
pmcgowanbregma: maybe restart the service and ensure its running as root20:52
pmcgowansergiusens: bregma having toruble with his nexus 720:52
pmcgowanjust found http://sergiusens.github.io/posts/installing-ubuntu-touch-preview-on-the-nexus-7-with-ubuntu-on-it.html20:52
pmcgowansergiusens: adb not work20:52
bregmashould the device be in dead robot mode or recovery mode or any special state?20:53
sergiusensbregma: so you have a nexus 7 with what?20:53
bregmaI believe it's the latest Ubuntu desktop image20:53
sergiusensbregma: fastoboot when in the bootloader, adb when in recovery and android OS20:53
pmcgowanbregma: the link above are the instructions20:54
bregmaOK, and fastboot definitely talks to the device but adb doesn't when it's in recovery mode20:54
sergiusensbregma: sideload?20:55
pmcgowanbregma: from the instructions you need to boot from the recovery img in the bootloader20:55
sergiusensbregma: or adb in general?20:55
bregma"adb devices" does not see the device20:56
pmcgowansergiusens: is this the first step: sudo fastboot boot quantal-preinstalled-recovery-armel+grouper.img20:56
sergiusensbregma: ok, how familiar are you with android?20:57
bregmaandoir?  not at all20:57
sergiusensoh, ok20:57
sergiusensbregma: power off20:57
bregmaOK20:57
sergiusensbregma: then follow that blog verbatim20:57
* sergiusens notices that latest nikola broke... hmmm20:58
sergiusensbregma: change quantal refs to raring ones20:58
pmcgowanRobbyF: what problem are you having with phablet-flash?20:59
pmcgowanoh nm I see20:59
* bregma searches for his bifocals so he can read what's on the N7 screen20:59
pmcgowansergiusens: flashing busted?21:00
sergiusenspmcgowan: I flashed perfectly fine before sending my email...21:01
pmcgowansergiusens: getting an error latest build detection not supported21:02
sergiusenstoday's build won't install unless you have phablet0tools - 0.1121:02
sergiusenspmcgowan: did you update?21:02
pmcgowansergiusens: I just did on raring to latest everything21:02
pmcgowanthe versioning there is wack though21:03
sergiusenspmcgowan: what is it?21:03
pmcgowan0.10.daily13.04.17blahblahblah21:03
pmcgowansergiusens: main doesnt have that update yet probably21:04
sergiusenspmcgowan: do you have the ppa? if you upgraded from quantal it was probably disabled21:04
sergiusenspmcgowan: that's the prev version21:05
sergiusenspmcgowan: add-apt-repository ppa:phablet-team/tools21:05
sergiusenspmcgowan: apt-get update && apt-get install phablet-tools21:05
pmcgowansergiusens: right but tools are in main on raring apparently?21:05
pmcgowanoh no I am wrong21:05
sergiusenspmcgowan: nope, you still have the one that was prolly installed from quantal or precise (if you updated)21:06
pmcgowansergiusens: I see it on quantal, not raring, will do update21:06
pmcgowanmaybe timing was bad21:06
sergiusenspmcgowan: the package was in 5 hours ago... not sure what happened ;-)21:07
pmcgowansergiusens: yep its there, just missed it21:08
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SonikkuAmericaWhat is the point of putting Ubuntu Touch on the Nexus 4 if it only suppors HSPA+?21:17
SonikkuAmerica*supports21:18
SonikkuAmericaI thought Touch only supported GSM.21:20
bregmaI'm waiting for it to support LTE21:20
* bregma is patient21:21
netcurliit is still a developer version21:21
SonikkuAmericaIs there a broader road map that will include CDMA, HSPA+ and IDEN?21:21
SonikkuAmericaOr is that a stupid question? :)21:24
GeekSquidI have installed the latest phablet install to a nexus 4, I am loving it, My next question would be how can I help, and how can I get help?21:25
SonikkuAmericaGeekSquid: You've come to the right place for now.21:26
netcurliSonikkuAmerica: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/client-1303-converged-network-stack21:27
SonikkuAmericanetcurli: Ah, thanks.21:27
GeekSquidNext question, when using nano via adb why doesn't the enter key work when trying to write out a file21:28
SonikkuAmericaSpotted «WiFi direct support is in Android, not clear how important it is for touch tough» inside wpasupplicant: I would think it would be for a couple of reasons.21:29
MinsteHi. Anybody know anything about the work with mobile data. I know the 3G/4G doesn't work, but what about EDGE?21:47
shadeslayerogra_: /etc/rc.local isn't run at all21:56
awe_Minste, mobile data support is in progress22:00
awe_https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/client-1303-telephony-stack22:00
awe_it requires Network Manager work in addition to the ofono/RILD work22:01
MinsteThanks for information :) Looking forward to it, mobile data is the only thing missing for me to use it daily :D22:04
awe_Minste, your welcome22:05
DampI am trying to have a slider in a tab, but when I try to interact with the slider i just switch tab22:17
DampAnyone encountered the same problem or have a solution?22:17
nik90Damp: this issue is being fixed at the moment. The default behavior to switch tabs by swiping has been removed by default. This should fix the issue with your slider22:19
nik90it will land as an update soon22:19
DampOk, so it is a known issue?22:19
netcurlianyone using quantal here?22:19
nik90Damp: check out https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/116670922:19
ubot5Launchpad bug 1166709 in Ubuntu UI Toolkit "[tabs] Tabs should only be navigated by swiping or tapping on the header area" [Critical,In progress]22:19
nik90Damp: yeah it is a known issue22:20
DampThen its allright and I wont file a bug report :p22:20
netcurliI just updated qtcreator and now it is not running anymore.. symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/platforms/libqxcb.so: undefined symbol: _ZN15QPlatformWindow17formatWindowTitleERK7QStringS2_22:20
rickspencer3hey, congrats everyone on getting onto raring22:33
rickspencer3good times22:33
Damprickspencer3 what do you mean?22:42
rickspencer3hi Damp22:43
rickspencer3Damp, I was referring to this: https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/msg01797.html22:44
DampIF I update to a daily image then I'll get 13.04 or whats it called22:45
rickspencer3Damp, I would assume that is the case, but I am not a definitive source22:46
pmcgowanDamp: yes the daily is now base on 13.0422:47
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pmcgowanshould not see any difference in functionality22:48
DampIs there some big updates with this so I should update at once?22:48
pmcgowannope22:48
pmcgowanits just where the development will be focused now, until we move to S22:48
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moocow1452Anyone good with Black Screen Boot Errors?22:53
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