=== chriadam|away is now known as chriadam [01:01] So I built and booted Ubuntu for my Nook Color and can adb into it, what can I do about the black screen? [01:11] is the galaxy nexus (carries sold version) sim unlocked? === XenGi is now known as XenGi_ [02:30] ANyone home? [02:41] hi guys I am getting Read-only file system message while trying to copy file using adb push. Does anyone had this problem? [02:43] is there a way to copy file to device without using ssh ? mounting filesystem would be great, but fdisk does not show any such thing === salem_ is now known as _salem === rsalveti_ is now known as rsalveti [07:52] hi - just installed touch. trying to connect to a hidden network, any idea how? [07:53] hidden wifi network, i know the ssid but can't seem to get up a dialogue to connect to it... [07:58] good morning [08:00] dholbach, good morning to you too ! [08:00] goooooood moooooooooooooooorning! [08:00] :) [08:00] salut mes amis [08:00] ça va? [08:00] tres bien, merci et toi? [08:00] oui ça va :) === brendand_ is now known as brendand [08:01] lool, salut aussi à toi! === ckpringle_ is now known as ckpringle === ckpringle_ is now known as ckpringle === chriadam is now known as chriadam|away [09:31] hello [09:38] mhall119: Hi, could you ask the SDK Developer guys today? === dandrader is now known as dandrader|afk [09:41] Guten Morgen [09:42] Damp: what's the question? [09:43] Is there a way to test ubuntu touch apps in some sort of simulator on a pc? [09:45] philipheinser: YOu can see your own apps in the "simulator" thats in QTCreator. Follow this install guide: http://developer.ubuntu.com/get-started/gomobile/ [09:45] t1mp: Well, in QTCreator i dont have the Ubuntu Phone templates to start creating apps [09:46] Damp: on raring? [09:47] Damp: have you installed ubuntu-sdk? [09:47] (not just qtcreator) [09:47] popey: I think so :) I followed the installation guide that I just posted. http://developer.ubuntu.com/get-started/gomobile/ [09:48] Damp: and make sure you have the ppa listedo n http://developer.ubuntu.com/get-started/gomobile/ installed. [09:48] Damp: I had to remove qtcreator, and then install it again to get the correct version after adding the ppa [09:48] Damp: apt-cache policy ubuntu-ui-toolkit-examples [09:48] I ran this (sudo add-apt-repository ppa:canonical-qt5-edgers/qt5-proper && sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-sdk-team/ppa && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-sdk notepad-qml) yesterday and it said 0 new installations 0 updates [09:48] uh [09:48] what version of ubuntu you on? [09:48] 12.10 [09:49] ah [09:49] Thats the problem? :p [09:49] I should use the LTS? [09:49] no [09:49] no [09:49] ☻ [09:49] one moment.. [09:49] Sure :) [09:49] jppiiroi1en: are the templates only for raring? [09:49] Damp: apt-cache policy ubuntu-sdk [09:50] can you pastebin that? [09:50] Sure. Just let me restart my mac :P [09:51] Ubuntu does NOT work well on a macbook :( [09:51] I seriously have to buy a new laptop to run that on [09:53] The wireless card on the mac is soooo slow in ubuntu! :( [09:55] popey: http://pastebin.com/Zt08a4qS === dandrader|afk is now known as dandrader [09:59] Damp2: hmm [10:01] Damp2: apt-cache policy ubuntu-ui-toolkit [10:01] popey: Unable to locate package ubuntu-ui-toolkit [10:01] I think you found the problem :p [10:01] ☻ [10:02] install that, see what else it pulls in [10:02] qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-ui-toolkit-plugin might get pulled in [10:02] should I just apt-get install ubuntu-ui-toolkit? [10:02] yes [10:03] try that, let us know what happens [10:03] E: Unable to locate package ubuntu-ui-toolkit. Maybe I am missing some PPAs? [10:04] ah, no. [10:04] can you apt-get install qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-ui-toolkit-plugin ? [10:05] popey: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. [10:06] oof [10:06] Sorry :/ [10:06] not your fault [10:06] * popey points Damp2 at Mirv ☻ [10:06] mirv? :p [10:06] so when you "File -> New" you dont get ubuntu touch apps as options? [10:06] Thats correct [10:06] hmm [10:06] I can screenshot it if you wanan see? [10:07] do you have a devices thing on the left? [10:07] reSu [10:07] Yes [10:07] is ubuntu-ui-toolkit-examples installed? [10:08] 0.1.42 quantal1 is installed [10:09] ok, close qtcreator.. [10:09] done [10:09] rm ~/.config/Trolltech.conf [10:10] rm -rf ~/.Qtproject/ [10:10] then restart qtcreator [10:10] done [10:10] does it work now? [10:11] qt creator works yes? [10:11] yes. [10:12] popey: http://imgur.com/v4ReJGO [10:13] hurrah, that works [10:13] happy days. [10:13] oh, hang on, that doesn't look quite right. [10:14] No? [10:14] I still dont have the "ubuntu phone" options? :p [10:14] those are the ubuntu phone options ☻ [10:14] choose Ubuntu UI - Simple [10:14] or Ubuntu UI - Tabs [10:14] Wow! Yesterday I asked if "Ubuntu" was "Ubuntu phone" and people said no :p [10:14] those are the templates we're using for developing Ubuntu Touch. [10:14] Then it has been working all along.. :p [10:14] Oh dear, sorry about that. [10:14] haha [10:15] Not your faul! I didnt ask you :p [10:15] But thank you so much for your help! :D [10:15] no probs, any time [10:15] Is there any place where there are some good QML guides? to learn multiple views etc? [10:16] And what does: Functional test with autopilot means? [10:19] Damp2: There is not a lot of guides, QML is very young :) [10:23] Damp2: ok, works now? :) [10:24] Mirv: seems the new stuff isn't backported to 12.10? [10:24] popey: so could some terminology be better somewhere? [10:24] so in Damp2's screenshot I dont see HTML5 apps for example [10:24] ☻ [10:25] popey: you're right, the qtcreator in SDK Release PPA does not yet match what we released to raring last week [10:25] coming soon [10:25] \o/ === ckpringle_ is now known as ckpringle [10:50] sergiusens, no image today ? [10:58] Oranger: Is there some documentation like the one Xcode has? I have seen the ubuntu.components docs, but its really shallow. Where should I look for more? === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch === mmrazik is now known as mmrazik|afk [11:32] Is there some way to acces the phones features? Like the most basic example to make a "flashlight app" to the phone using the phones camera flash? === dandrader is now known as dandrader|lunch [11:42] Damp2, not yet afaik .... this will likely be covered by the sensors api which is still being worked on [11:42] ogra_ thx! :) Is there en eta on Ubuntu Phone yet? [11:43] I bought a phone to test it, and I am wondering if I'm just gonna return it or if I'll buy a computer to run linux to program for it [11:43] :p [11:43] the 13.10 release should see its first fully funmctional release [11:43] there is an ubuntuonair talk today about the sensors api btw [11:43] And the ETA for that is? :p [11:44] What is Ubuntu on Air? [11:44] http://ubuntuonair.com/ [11:44] 13:00 UTC [11:44] (in 75min) === SkavenXXI is now known as SkavenXXI-[OFF] [11:45] you can ask questions and discuss via irc once the hangout started [11:45] Sweet [11:46] How will Ubuntu Phone handle App installations? Like Android, where everything can get stolen, or like app-store where apps are locked to be installed via the store? [11:46] good morning from Canada [11:47] thats being discussed still as well ... the current method is just apt like in any other ubuntu [11:47] but that will very likely change to a per-user app model [11:47] its all in flux :) [11:47] Hehe. As one who is looking forward to invest in this or not, that is crucial. I hate android. There is so much piracy in small apps even tho they cost only a dollar [11:48] What is the per-user app model? [11:49] well, normal ubuntu packages always install system wide ... in a multi user setup like on a tablet you want to have some separation per user [11:49] can i change my time zone on the N4 ? i cant see how I can [11:49] chris____, see the release notes (see chanel topic) [11:49] thanks [11:49] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes#Timezone [11:49] it has a description how to change it === SkavenXXI-[OFF] is now known as SkavenXXI [11:54] "Alternatively you can import contacts from a csv file. The csv file should be in same format as /usr/share/demo-assets/contacts-data/data.csv. Replace the sample data.csv file with your own version and run manage-address-books.py create to import your contacts. " [11:55] i guess I can just mount the phone to my ubuntu box and copy / paste files? [11:55] i use KDE4 [11:55] Ah, I see. I would love if they kept the installation of applications secure so one could make some money of creating great apps :) [12:00] is there a way to mount the nexus4 to my ubuntubox as a device in KDE4 ? === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [12:01] chris____, you can use adb to transfer files or install openssh-server and access it via sshfs [12:01] (sshfs over wlan indeed) [12:02] ogra_, is it possible to make calls with the N4 or is that not implemented yet [12:02] I would also recommend using "-o reconnect" with sshfs, so if your device is out of range and then back again it remounts. === highvolt1ge is now known as highvoltage [12:03] Damp, with an unlocked SIM (without PIN) you should be able to [12:03] ok, i will see about the manual for that. thanks. i have only used adb to install Touch [12:03] hi [12:03] Is there any way to unlock my sim? I made a duplicate at the store last week but I havent tried it yet [12:04] Its possible to install on Xperia X10i ? [12:04] you should be able to remove the PIN code on an android phone [12:04] ritesh, if it is on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices ... else you need to port it https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting [12:06] found Xperia S and T [12:06] here the problem is that Xperia no longer software update [12:06] and its running on 2.2.3 Android, We need to replace with suitable one [12:07] your next plan list also not mention this mobile [12:14] "Run ip addr show wlan0 on the device " [12:14] how do i do that? [12:15] i assume "device" means "the phone" ? [12:15] surely does [12:15] yes [12:15] log in via adb, run the ubuntu_chroot shell (like described in the release notes) === mmrazik|afk is now known as mmrazik [12:16] sergiusens, did you see my ping above ? seems there is no daily today ... [12:16] If you have idea how to install on Xperia X10i Please give me the detail. [12:16] you will need to port it [12:16] follow the porting howto ... or find someone on the xda developer forum that did/tried already === _salem is now known as salem_ [12:18] xda dev not reliable, I found info through portal, still buggy. not function fully. [12:19] Actually I use Ubuntu linux personal and office also. [12:19] so I first preffer this [12:19] ogra_: I stopped the build, want the next one to be pure raring and also needed you to check if we can copy ubuntu_stamp without the raring- or quantal- in it === dandrader|lunch is now known as dandrader [12:20] ok [12:21] just give me a heads up once youre done, the first new sync needs to be manual to force the version bump (assuming you dont go on at #95) [12:23] Thanks [12:26] Does anyone know how I kan switch "views" in a tabbed example template by pushing a button in a toolbar [12:26] What is the qml command to make views "active" [12:27] mhall119, ^^^ === highvolt1ge is now known as highvoltage [12:44] Damp: You can switch tab by changing "selectetTab" or "selectedTabIndex" of Tabs item. [12:47] ZDmitry, Damp you can only update selectedTabIndex to switch tabs. updating selectedTab doesn't update anything. [12:47] ah selectedTab is marked as readonly, good :) [12:48] lool, fyi https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/AndroidAutobuilds [12:48] but yeah, selectedTabIndex is the way to go [12:49] lool, i'll adjust the blueprint once we have more tech details during the sprint, building on the livefs builds isnt possible [12:51] t1mp: yes, it's my mistake. selectedTab is read only [12:53] So about soft keyboard in UT: how I can call it (is it possible ever)? [12:59] Damp: you can set the current tab index on the Tabs component [12:59] sil2100: are you still block or need anything else? [13:02] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices <- This page lists Galaxy Nexus (toro), but it is not in the download here: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/daily-preinstalled/current/ [13:02] additionally the page for toro is just a template [13:02] is it a currently supported device or not? === ckpringle_ is now known as ckpringle [13:05] mhall119: I'm looking at the Tabs api docs now. It has two selected-options (selectedTab : Tab (preliminary) [13:05] selectedTabIndex : int (preliminary)) Is this the one you mean? [13:06] mhall119: I pushed akari to my ppa, its up to date in lp:akari.. want to upload to the ppa? [13:06] didrocks: no, it's ok now - should I still get libhud-qt available in quantal, or we're leaving mediumtests disabled for now? [13:06] sil2100: I would say disabled for now. This will motivate us during the sprint as well to get everything ready :) [13:07] ubuntuonair.com hangout about sensor handling in ubuntu is running right now [13:10] jppiiroi1en: https://code.launchpad.net/~juhapekka-piiroinen/ubuntu-qtcreator-plugins/fix-bug-1170692 - do I just "make" that/ [13:10] ? [13:10] looks like it pulls in qtcreator and stuff, will it make a nice installable deb? [13:10] Damp: selectedTabIndex should do it [13:11] popey: if you've tried it and it works, go ahead and upload it [13:11] mhall119: So just selectedTabIndex = 3 for my third tab? [13:11] mhall119: ok [13:12] Damp: it probably starts at zero, so selectedTabIndex=2 would be for your third tab [13:13] :) [13:14] Damp, mhall119 it does start at 0 [13:15] mhall119: where I can find something about soft keyboard in UT? Or how I can call it from my code (since qApp->inputMethod()->show() didn't work) [13:17] tmoenicke: can a developer call up the keyboard? [13:17] mhall119: you mean show/hide? [13:17] I would think it just comes up when the text field is entered [13:18] tmoenicke: yeah, without a TextField [13:18] ZDmitry is working on the terminal app [13:18] ah [13:18] I have custom item [13:19] mhall119: you can, but it is recommended to rely on text input having focus or not [13:21] tmoenicke: when my item get focus on desktop I can type just as usual, but on device - I can't see VKB. [13:22] tmoenicke: any documentation on how to make a custom widget that does teh same as TextField? [13:23] mhall119: whats i the notes app? thats similar [13:23] as far as bringing up the keyboard when it gets focus [13:23] pmcgowan: ah, good example [13:23] ZDmitry: is the maliit-server running? [13:24] assuming yes [13:25] can someone enlighten me on the actual purpose of the orange blobs around the clock on the image, and one the "lock" screen ? [13:26] cyphermox: they will eventually change according to the data being displayed [13:26] tmoenicke: ps -A | grep maliit says yes [13:26] to give a quick visual indication of what the data is [13:26] mhall119: ok, like number of blobs = number of tweets [13:26] or on the clock it's seconds or something? [13:26] cyphermox: something like that, yeah [13:26] cool, cool [13:26] cyphermox: it may not be a 1:1 match [13:27] but more circles == more tweets, for example [13:27] so you can tell at a glance if you have "many" or "few" [13:27] was just curious, I was showing a daily image to coworkers. [13:27] ZDmitry: is it working elsewhere? like in the browser? [13:28] cyphermox: that's what it will do eventually [13:28] tmoenicke: it works on standard items like TextField [13:28] mhall119: great, thanks === sporkeee is now known as wilee-nilee [13:29] ZDmitry: you're writing your own textfield? [13:31] How does the ubuntu phone save data from your app? If I was to make a notepad app, where would the notes be stored and how? [13:31] Damp: you have a couple options [13:31] LocalStorage, which gives you an sqlite database [13:31] tmoenicke: I'm writing terminal emulator qml item for terminal app [13:31] or U1DB, which also gives you an sqlite database, but will allow you to sync your data between devices [13:32] so phablet-flash -b downloads+installs quantal-preinstalled-system-armel+mako.img - how to make it install raring? is this because i have 0.7-0phablet1 of phablet-tools installed? [13:32] tmoenicke: that item can accept focus and keyboard events [13:34] tmoenicke: I thought that calling qApp->inputMethod()->show() is enough. [13:34] h01ger, look at the install wikipage, there is a maual method (and i think sergiusens has also a python extension for phablet-flash now) [13:34] ZDmitry: QInputMethod sends you a QInputMethodQueryEvent asking if Input method is enabled for it, you would have to reply with setting it to true [13:34] we will default to raring within the next days in phablet-flash [13:35] \o/ [13:36] h01ger: http://www.theorangenotebook.com/2013/04/testing-ubunutu-touch-images-now-with.html [13:36] ogra_, thanks! even found raring images now :) [13:36] has instructions for getting and testing the raring images [13:37] tmoenicke: I know. I have replied with true on that request. But for something went wrong. I'll make one more test. [13:37] popey: just copy stuff in qtcreator/share/qtcreator to /usr/share/qtcreator [13:37] h01ger: well if you have 0.7 you have the ppa:phablet-team/tools ppa disabled [13:38] you should enable as next build out is going to be raring only [13:39] ok, and instead of going the fully manual route i will jsut edit /usr/share/pyshared/phabletutils/settings.py :-) [13:39] sergiusens, i'm on wheezy anyway... [13:41] * h01ger guesses he shall upgrade phablet-tools too :-) [13:42] mterry, ping [13:44] h01ger: bzr branch lp:phablet-tools and use it from there... update often though for latest [13:45] sergiusens, thanks. (though my bzr foo is little i will manage to clone that repo) [13:45] jhodapp, hi [13:45] mterry, any idea why nobody has reviewed your MR yet? https://code.launchpad.net/~mterry/phablet-extras/libhybris-no-gles/+merge/158160 [13:46] mterry, that's causes a build failure when I tried to do an MR against libhybris: https://code.launchpad.net/~jhodapp/phablet-extras/add-vasprintf-hook [13:46] sergiusens, i've been thinking about uploading phablet-tools to debian sid (so it will end up in jessie too) - what do you think? [13:46] mterry, I need your MR before my MR will build successfully [13:47] jhodapp, I think your MR might have failed because quantal still has the old mesa, eh? [13:47] sergiusens, is the phablet team ready to switch to raring? [13:47] mterry, not sure, but it shouldn't fail, especially when my MR had nothing to do with OpenGL [13:48] jhodapp, well, I can't seem to get the build log failure, I get a 404 on those links [13:48] jhodapp, but I'm guessing that you fixed a ftbfs in raring because the mesa headers changed [13:48] ChickenCutlass: tvoss: lool: ogra_: dholbach: sforshee: thanks! [13:48] HUGS! [13:48] :) [13:48] rsalveti, thanks :) [13:49] ogra_ what is all this raring your guys are talking about? [13:49] jhodapp, but since we still build in both quantal and raring... we need to make the change conditional [13:49] Damp, the release name of the ubuntu release that will come out on thu. [13:49] also known as 13.04 [13:49] I see [13:50] mterry: the switch started to happen yesterday [13:50] mterry, yeah...any chance you can add that conditional to fix [13:50] Damp, all ubuntu touch dailies were based on 12.10 ... within the next days we will switch over to default to 13.04 [13:50] mterry: we are just waiting on the medium tests thing to shutdown quantal completely [13:50] mterry, my MR's build issue? [13:50] Damp, which will not last very long ... then we will switch to the 13.10 developer release as a base [13:51] mterry: jobs should switch soon to only build on raring... [13:51] sergiusens, ok [13:51] mterry: feel free to do it for hybris if yu have the time, if not I'll be getting a blanket MR for all later today [13:52] sergiusens, what do you mean about the mediumtest thing? [13:52] mterry: medium tests, that run with every merge are still on quantal... fginther and mzanetti are working on it [13:52] sergiusens, ok [13:53] jhodapp, let's switch the config to only build libhybris on raring, then try to merge again [13:53] mterry, sergiusens, the mediumtests have been disabled for everything except unity/phablet so far [13:53] jhodapp, I can do that [13:53] mterry, perfect...we can just have jenkins try to rebuild then === juicyjonz is now known as juicyjones|away === juicyjones|away is now known as juicyjones [13:59] sergiusens, here's libhybris: https://code.launchpad.net/~mterry/cupstream2distro-config/raring-libhybris/+merge/160376 [14:16] jhodapp: I'm on your mr [14:16] jhodapp: just had to fix a build issue first [14:16] thanks rsalveti [14:16] jhodapp: https://code.launchpad.net/~rsalveti/phablet-extras/libhybris_update_build_raring_mesa/+merge/160264 [14:16] then will take care of yours and the other from mterry [14:17] sergiusens: latest raring from ibs has the correct source list already :-) [14:17] then later today we need to try the unity-next stuff [14:17] rsalveti, oh [14:18] rsalveti, sorry, was talking to jhodapp above about your merge failing on quantal because the mesa change happened between Q and R, eh? So your changes would need to be conditional. But instead, I'm dropping quantal builds for libhybris. [14:18] rsalveti, change coming soon [14:18] mterry: we don't need to care about quantal anymore :-) [14:19] and this will need further cleanup to use the upstream version of hybris anyway [14:19] rsalveti, just in time for R's actual release [14:19] yeah [14:19] heh [14:19] "in time" [14:19] ogra_: details ;-) [14:19] :) [14:20] ogra_, fine, "early" for R's actual release ;) [14:20] yeah ;-) [14:20] :) [14:21] rsalveti, can you kick your job again? the raring-only change should be active [14:21] mterry: sure [14:21] fginther, right? For CI job changes, the branch just needs to be merged, there's not a manual step afterwards? [14:22] oh sigh ... it just struck me that assembling the debian/copyrigyt for the android image package might actually be quite some effort ... [14:22] probably even the biggest in creating that package ... [14:23] ogra_: changelog bigger than the orig.tar? :-P [14:23] copyright, but yeah :) [14:23] i guess there are a ton of different licenses [14:23] yeah, sorry, always use them mixed up [14:24] "that c file in the debian dir" :) [14:24] ogra_: mostly apache for the android stuff [14:24] ogra_: /external is going to be the varying one [14:24] yeah, but we have prebuilt binaries etc [14:24] ogra_: jezz, that will be a pain indeed [14:25] just say it's whatever is described at phablet.ubuntu.com haha [14:25] heh [14:25] i could try ... though i would have to have it ready before the sprint ... [14:26] then we just need enough alcohol and an archive admin in the bar [14:26] (and a laptop) [14:26] :-) [14:26] that can all be arranged [14:26] mterry, correct. Just re-approve a merge proposal to retry the autolanding and merge [14:26] haha [14:26] Hi! I've flashed Ubuntu on my Nexus 4. I logged via ssh and realized that the sensorservice process is consumming the CPU 90% (I think this could be also the reason why my battery goes flat in a couple of hours) [14:27] any idea how to stop/kill this process and why this is happening? [14:28] ogra_: count me in for the alcohol, but the price will be high so that I approve :) [14:28] ogra_: then, I'll take the double for the MIR ;) [14:28] rsalveti, you read that above right ? and the channel is logged ? [14:29] * ogra_ copy pastes didrocks words as well ... to have a proof [14:29] ahah ;) [14:29] hahah :-) [14:29] :) [14:30] sergiusens, so a big merge dropping all the quantal stuff is planned today? [14:30] quantal is no more [14:30] mterry: yes, was supposed to do it yesterday, but got delayed... that and phablet-land for everything in daily release [14:31] pmcgowan, sergiusens , rsalveti , whats with monthly-04 vs monthly-04.1 ... do we want to keep both ? [14:31] ogra_: I believe we can kill monthly-0.4 [14:31] ogra_: no, we probably only want the .1 [14:31] sergiusens: ^? [14:31] k [14:31] I just hate when manta is out of battery [14:32] takes ages to charge [14:32] rsalveti: lower the brightness [14:32] sergiusens: was 'suspended' [14:32] guess our network stack keeps it running all the time [14:33] remove /etc/init.d/ondemand ;) [14:33] rsalveti: yeah, doesn't suspend [14:33] that helps a lot over here ... thogh for keeping the load down during operation, not sure it has impact on suspend too [14:34] we urgently need to re-do that crap [14:34] guess it's a wakelock issue here [14:36] kenvandine: do we have docs packages for Accounts and Friends? [14:39] mhall119, not yet [14:39] mhall119, but that is on my todo list for this week [14:41] ok [14:41] mterry: sergiusens: https://code.launchpad.net/~rsalveti/phablet-extras/libhybris_update_build_raring_mesa/+merge/160383 [14:41] still used quantal === dandrader is now known as dandrader|afk [14:44] kalikiana: http://developer.ubuntu.com/api/ubuntu-12.10/qml/u1db/overview.html [14:52] mhall119, sweet! [14:52] sergiusens, do you know why the above used quantal? [14:53] mterry: probably because the merge happened but the push of cu....distro-config didn't ... the job still has quantal [14:53] sergiusens, it looks like it started over at build number 1, so it is using the new libhybris-specific config [14:53] sergiusens, how does the push happen? [14:53] mterry: manually... [14:55] sergiusens, oh. hmm. Is that "deploying" the config? [14:55] rsalveti: how are the 3 core apps currently being pulled into the daily image builds? [14:55] mterry: yeah [14:55] sergiusens, ah... [14:55] mhall119: rule in our live-build/offspring stuff [14:56] sergiusens: so when we change the package names to drop the ubuntu-, we'll need to let you know so you can change it [14:56] right? === dandrader|afk is now known as dandrader [14:57] does it need to be all of them at once, we can we do them one at a time as the package rename changes land? [14:57] mhall119: yup, that's what we talked about :-) [14:57] mhall119: right, can be one at a time [14:57] mhall119: just gradually [14:57] ok, thanks [14:59] didrocks, I made a change to a phablet stack's CI config. But it's not taking effect. I have to deploy it somehow, but you said the cu2d-update-stack was just for daily-release stuff, which phablet isn't. How do I deploy a phablet config? [15:00] mterry: I'm looking into it... getting an error, might be easier to ask fginther [15:00] mterry: supposedly it's just ./ci/cu2d-update-ci stacks/phablet/extras.cfg [15:00] sergiusens, ah.. but you get an error on that? [15:01] mterry: yes connection refused... it worked last time I used it so not sure [15:02] mterry, I'll take a look [15:03] hrm. I get credentials not found. I must never have set this script up [15:04] mterry, the cu2d-update-ci looks for credentials under ci-jenkins [15:05] fginther: I have those, but get a urllib connection refused... ah [15:05] fginther: ip change on jenkins! [15:06] mterry: fginther deployed [15:06] sergiusens, thanks [15:07] sergiusens, awesome, thanks [15:08] seems the change did not have an effect on jenkins though :-/ [15:15] * h01ger has upgraded (with phablet-tools) his nexus4 to raring but now the ui flickers heavily.. === gatox is now known as gatox_lunch === Guest92449 is now known as balloons === SkavenXXI is now known as SkavenXXI-[OFF] === mrjazzcat_ is now known as mrjazzcat [16:32] tmoenicke: may I ask You one more question? [16:39] I'm bit slow. Not admit disconnection... [16:41] is it possible to install ubuntuphone on a rasberry pi? [16:47] std, no [16:48] lame [16:48] well, make the RPi use proper hardware and it will become possible ... [16:48] mterry: happroved https://code.launchpad.net/~mterry/phablet-extras/libhybris-no-gles/+merge/158160 [16:53] rsalveti, btw, would be funny to port to the new beaglebone :) [16:53] ogra_: indeed [16:54] rsalveti, thanks! === gatox_lunch is now known as gatox [17:04] jhodapp: mr happroved [17:05] thanks rsalveti [17:11] Just posted the winning layout for System Settings overview on phone. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemSettings#phone [17:12] what did it win ? [17:12] Saviq, !! my lightdm merge finally passed the ci bot. :) [17:14] ogra_, the promise of existence [17:15] :) === mmrazik is now known as mmrazik|afk === SkavenXXI-[OFF] is now known as SkavenXXI === juicyjones is now known as juicyjones|away === SkavenXXI-[0FF] is now known as SkavenXXI [17:45] popey: in this week's IRC meetings, can we get any incomplete or postponed work items from the -month-0 milestone retargetted to -month-1? [17:56] rsalveti: lp:touch-preview-images/livebuild [17:56] rsalveti: offsrping is going to be switched to that [17:58] mhall119: popey you can create MRs against this when you want to add or rename packages http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/touch-preview-images/livebuild/view/head:/chroot_local-packageslists/apps.list [18:01] ChickenCutlass: uh, the root=/data didn't quite work btw [18:02] shadeslayer: where is you rootfs? is it on /data [18:02] I mount it on /data [18:03] shadeslayer: are you at the end of init in the ramdisk? WHere it trys to run /sbin/init on the new rootfs [18:03] yeah, that's what I'm going to check, I suspect it's hanging at the point where it was last hanging [18:03] which is mounting the rootfs === sporkeee is now known as wilee-nilee [18:06] sergiusens: noted, thanks [18:06] did you set root=/data on the kernel cmdline ? [18:06] I did indeedly [18:07] yeah, that wont work [18:07] oh? [18:07] it would look for a device /data [18:08] which it indeed cant find [18:08] ogra_: is syncing off? [18:08] shadeslayer: I modified the init script drectly. did not use the kernel command line [18:08] aha [18:08] ChickenCutlass: care to share :) [18:09] shadeslayer: modify the rootmnt env var [18:09] look at /usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/local [18:09] sepcifically the mountroot function [18:09] thats what mounts your root devices [18:09] -s [18:10] ChickenCutlass, why ? [18:10] ChickenCutlass, once run-init was executed it will be / anyway ... and /data as a mountpoint doesnt exist in the initrd [18:10] ogra_: I set rootmnt to /data/ubuntu and manually mounted /dev/block/mmcp23 to /data [18:10] ah [18:11] right, but thats a moot step [18:11] since run-init will change it to / in any case [18:11] ogra_: so that all works -- ut when run-init starts -- the phone reboots [18:11] ogra_: even after turning off watchdog [18:11] yeah [18:12] it still reboots after turning off the watchdog? :D [18:12] i guess your prob is that you want to enter /data/ubuntu [18:12] not just /data [18:12] shadeslayer: for me -- but only after trying to launch upstart [18:12] run-init will just turn /data into / [18:13] its pretty dumb [18:13] ogra_: let me try and move everything up a level [18:14] so what you want is: mount /dev/block/mmcp23 to /temptootmount (or so) ... and then bindmount /temptootmount/ubuntu to /root [18:14] and leave the script just do its job ... [18:14] ok [18:14] let me try [18:15] how about just mounting the block to /root directly? [18:15] effectively we should have a "mount by label" subfubnction in mountroot (and if it knows it is an android base it also should do the bind mounting) [18:16] so you can just say root+label:userdata on your kernel cmdline and it does the right thing [18:16] err [18:16] root= [18:16] shadeslayer, should work if it has the rotfs at the toplevel [18:16] *rootfs [18:17] the prob here is the ubuntu subdir ... it needs to reside at root/ [18:17] my biggest fear is that I'm placing my mount call in the wrong location [18:17] as a toplevel dir [18:17] shadeslayer, arent you after a plain ubuntu anyway ? [18:17] I am indeed [18:18] so there ids no need for you to jump through all these hoops [18:18] ogra_: though I suspect I'll need files from /system for things like wifi :/ [18:18] just make sure /dev/mmcwhatever has your / [18:18] that's what I was trying to do [18:19] the prob with ubuntu touch is that it lives in a subdir ... so that needs compensation ... i'm not sure a bind mount will survive run-init though [18:19] heh [18:19] but it should ... all tempdirs survive as well [18:19] ogra_: so I just put a mount call at the top of my initrd to mount /dev/block/platform/dw_mmc.0/by-name/userdata as / ? [18:20] or /root? [18:20] and i think we isitially used a bindmount for /dev [18:20] from reading the init it seems like rootmnt is /root [18:20] shadeslayer, no, dont touch your initrd at all ... [18:20] oh [18:20] just set the right root= option on your kernel cmdline [18:20] I tried that :S [18:20] didn't work [18:20] well, it should [18:21] I set root=/dev/block/platform/dw_mmc.0/by-name/userdata [18:21] what did it do ? [18:21] no [18:21] you want the actual device name [18:21] ah [18:21] you mean /dev/block/mmcblk0p9 [18:21] /dev/block/platform/dw_mmc.0/by-name/userdata is a link ... use the device it points to [18:21] I tried that as well [18:21] yeah [18:21] now you are using ubuntus udev ... [18:22] right [18:22] are you sure /dev/block even exists ? [18:22] thats an android dir :) [18:22] hm, good point, I didn't check [18:22] try /dev/mmcblk0p9 and see [18:22] okay [18:23] (and indeed be sure to have a properly working rootfs there) [18:23] ogra_: same problem === brion is now known as brion-lunch [18:23] ogra_: just reboots after trying to run run-init [18:23] ChickenCutlass, i'll sit down on my n7 tomorrow and try some things ... [18:23] ok [18:24] i suspect the /dev/blok thing might be an issue [18:24] *block [18:24] ogra_: so root is mounted -- it gets past the check for /root/sbin/init [18:24] not sure if devtmpfs even creates such a subdir [18:24] ah [18:26] * shadeslayer will still need to mount the Android system partition to get wifi to work [18:26] so many proprietary files in there :/ [18:26] are you sure there is no linux driver for the wifi ? [18:27] (do you know which chipset it is etc ? ) [18:28] I don't know if there's a driver, but look at https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_device_samsung_manta/blob/cm-10.1/cm-proprietary-blobs.txt [18:28] seems like it's a Broadcom 43241 [18:31] you might be able to just use an in kernel broadcom driver but lose some features [18:31] hmmm [18:31] https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/1388591/ [18:31] ogra_: can't I just mount the system partition once ubuntu is up [18:32] mount it to /system [18:32] sure [18:32] and voila kernel just picks up the firmware from there [18:34] hmm [18:34] if I pass root=/dev/mmcblk0p9 it just reboots [18:35] with a plain unhacked initrd [18:36] yep [18:36] and an ext4 filesystem that has / on that device ? [18:36] yep [18:36] hmm, then it might actually be /dev/block [18:36] s/be/have/ [18:37] oh wait [18:37] ogra_: [ 8.874121] EXT4-fs (mmcblk0p9): mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. Opts: (null) [18:37] :D [18:37] aha [18:38] it panics shortly afterwards [18:38] so next question is ... does run-init run [18:38] http://paste.kde.org/730772 [18:38] hmm [18:38] are you 100% sure your fs is proper ? where did you get it from ? [18:39] debootstrapped it [18:40] hmm [18:40] sudo debootstrap --verbose --arch armhf --foreign --include=btrfs-tools,locales,kbd,wpasupplicant,openssh-server raring kubuntu/ [18:40] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily-preinstalled/current/raring-preinstalled-desktop-armhf+ac100.tar.gz [18:40] try that [18:40] then I put qemu-arm-static in kubuntu/usr/bin and finished debootstraping [18:40] will do [18:41] will take a bit to download :) [18:42] mmm recovery has tar, I can just unpack it then [18:43] zcat /path/to/tarball |tar --numeric-owner x [18:43] thats what you want [18:44] when is the release date of this great os [18:46] ogra_: so that is better [18:46] ogra_: just passed root=/dev/mmcblkp23 [18:46] ogra_: not rebooting now [18:46] how to get the dock of ubuntu os? [18:47] ChickenCutlass: :D [18:47] I didn't realize that /dev/block was Android specific [18:48] ubuntu for android == ubuntu touch? [18:48] ChickenCutlass, yay [18:48] ccvvcc, no [18:49] ogra_: can I push the tar to the userdata partition and zcat it there itself? [18:49] ccvvcc, ubuntu for android is like an android app :) ubuntu touch is a full OS [18:49] that won't corrupt the tar right? [18:49] shadeslayer, as you like ... as long as it ends up as / there [18:49] okay [18:49] it should even bring up X [18:49] fancy [18:50] so you should have a chance to hack it to get a user and an xterm up for further work [18:50] ogra_: I'll settle for ext4 coming up :P [18:50] s/ext4/root [18:50] heh [18:51] if a missing kernel option doesnt kill upstart it should just work [18:51] ^_^ [18:51] hmm, though there might be plymouth bits that get in your way [18:51] ogra_: I'll have to write a blog post if this works :P [18:52] oh [18:52] :) [18:52] and maybe buy you a beer or two [18:53] ogra_: how difficult would it be for you to setup a rootfs build that pulls in kubuntu-active and the armsoc driver for the Nexus 10? [18:53] so that if this works, we can try that out next :) [18:54] shadeslayer, well, i tried with Riddell to do that for the nexus7 ... but it kind of fell off the table [18:54] yeah, I'm going to have a look at the N7 when/if I meet him [18:55] same process for the N7 :P [18:55] build kernel > enable fbcon > flail about a bit > poke ogra_ with issues ;) [18:55] yeah, might be that you get hit by plymouth [18:55] haha [18:56] ChickenCutlass, did you keep the override files in place for plymouth ? [18:56] I don't like tegra however [18:56] * ogra_ does === brion-lunch is now known as brion [18:56] its the easiest to handle due to the binary blob and the kernels are too androidized so that you can usually switch off the android stuff and still build g_serial for example [18:57] *are not too === kdub is now known as kdub^lunch [18:59] ogra_: you clearly haven't used the TF101 [18:59] oh the joys of flashing the TF101 with kernelblobs [18:59] and hitting size limits [19:00] hey all. is there a technical document anywhere describing various user interaction and app expectations for phone/tablet? in particular, window stacking and multi-process/multitasking behavior and expectations for apps? [19:01] i have a tf101 here ... havent booted it in ages and never even tried to get ubuntu on it [19:01] ogra_: yes [19:01] ok, good [19:03] ogra_: yeah, it's a PITA [19:03] ogra_: I've had it for about a year now [19:04] I went crazy during the time I tried to work [19:04] the n7 was a pleasure to port to :) [19:04] lilstevie gets the award for patience though [19:04] hehe [19:05] shadeslayer, so you definitely want to move all /etc/init/plymouth*.conf files out of the way [19:05] i still havent't got round to trying ubuntu on my n7 [19:05] ogra_: will do [19:06] ogra_: something to investigate once all of this is done, fbcon :P [19:06] why does it not work [19:06] and maybe try to make it work [19:06] yeah [19:07] will likely need kernel patches though [19:07] fine with me ;)_ [19:07] yeah, with me too ... as long as i dont have to write them :) [19:07] haha [19:08] we can find someone in #ubuntu-kernel :P [19:09] bzoltan1: can you have someone look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1171973 please [19:09] Launchpad bug 1171973 in Ubuntu UI Toolkit "Swiping between tabs from content don't work" [Undecided,New] [19:09] * ogra_ has patched kernels in his life ... but never with code i would show to anyone [19:10] xD [19:10] I've patched kernels too, but with other people's code :P [19:10] yeah, that i didnt count [19:11] or is there anyone specific that would be good to ask about that sort of thing? [19:12] dobey, probably mtp [19:12] err [19:12] mpt ... i know he is no protocol ... [19:12] :D [19:15] mpt: ^^ if you're still around, are you the person to ask about details regarding window stacking and multi-process/multitasking bits of the new world order of phablet converged ubuntu? === salem_ is now known as _salem === _salem is now known as salem_ [19:16] fun [19:16] there's /sys/class/leds/as3668/color [19:16] so I can maybe control the color of the LED on the N10 [19:25] mhall119: I know it sounds unpleasant, but that is how it suppose to work. It is a decision made by design -> http://design.ubuntu.com/apps/building-blocks/tabs and http://design.ubuntu.com/apps/global-patterns/navigation [19:27] hi [19:28] can touch be downloaded on micro sd card and dual boot phone [19:28] no [19:29] there are some hacks to do dual boot on the xda forums ... but an upgrade could break that since ubuntu touch doesnt support it [19:29] thanks [19:29] bzoltan1: the new qtc looks great [19:29] so the hack might just be overwritten [19:30] ruh roh [19:30] ogra_: zcat: write: Broken pipe [19:31] wow [19:31] so your android shell doesnt know how to pipe ? or does tar not work ? [19:32] I have no idea [19:32] I could zcat it locally and adb sync it [19:32] well, it will grow quite a bit [19:33] oh [19:33] wel [19:33] if I place the 'x' after tar it works :) [19:33] err [19:33] yeah [19:33] heh [19:33] so zcat foo.tar.gz | tar x --numeric-owner [19:33] :P [19:34] sorry [19:34] np ;) [19:34] done, fingers crossed, rebooting [19:35] didn't reboot, so far so good [19:35] no GUI as well [19:35] oh drat [19:36] forgot about plymouth [19:36] i was about to say [19:36] :D [19:36] but that would have caused a hard reboot most likely [19:36] it definitely does on tegra ... so you might be past that point [19:37] /proc/last_kmsg has garbled messages about tty's [19:37] [ 57.459863] init: tty3 main process ended, respawning [19:37] but removing just incase [19:38] ah, I don't think I have CONFIG_VT enabled [19:38] would that cause issues? [19:38] shadeslayer: yes [19:38] okay, I'll enable CONFIG_VT [19:38] yeah [19:41] hmm screen flashed [19:41] I'll take that as a good sign [19:42] probably something tried to start but failed [19:42] yeah [19:43] bunch of garbled messages in last_kmsg [19:43] mount the partition from recovery and have a look at /var/log/ [19:43] ack [19:43] i think you have it booting ... [19:43] but still issues [19:43] indeed ;) [19:44] see if it gets to starting X [19:44] there is definitely no Xorg.0.log in the tarball :) [19:44] it does :D [19:44] it has an Xorg.0.log [19:44] yay [19:44] :D [19:44] you should be able to chroot [19:44] so you can less it etc [19:45] http://paste.kde.org/730814 [19:45] that's Xorg.0.log [19:45] dmesg http://paste.kde.org/730820 [19:45] hah [19:45] it even started [19:45] :D === kdub^lunch is now known as kdub [19:47] whoops at dmesg [19:47] http://paste.kde.org/730826 [19:48] hmm [19:48] I wonder if I can make it mount /dev/block/mmcblk0p8 on /system in etc/fstab [19:49] and then it won't complaint about missing firmware [19:49] ir still will [19:49] *it [19:49] oh, why? [19:50] you need to copy /system/lib/firmware to /lib/firmware i think [19:50] not quite [19:50] the manta kernel passes the firmware paths, hardcoded into the config [19:50] well, then create /system and mount it [19:50] CONFIG_BCMDHD_FW_PATH="/system/vendor/firmware/fw_bcmdhd.bin" [19:50] dmesg talks about /lib/firmware [19:51] mmm [19:51] but try the mount [19:51] seems to be easy to find out if it works [19:53] done, lets see if it works [19:54] hmm, nope [19:55] well, whats weird is that X doesnt show up ... even though it starts without error [19:55] that's what I'm thinking as well [19:55] might be a backlight controller issue [19:55] nppe [19:55] *nope [19:56] I can clearly tell there's alot of backlight [19:56] the screen isn't 'off' [19:56] k [19:56] ogra_: maybe it's on the wrong tty? [19:56] not the wrong tty but the wrong display [19:56] wrong *display* ? :P [19:56] how can it be on the wrong display [19:57] there is just one xD [19:57] well, output ... [19:58] hmm [19:58] there is likely a HDMI out internally [19:58] I'll try and get adb up [19:58] then maybe we can debug [19:58] iirc that tablet supports attaching HDMI with an adapter [19:58] though it clearly gets a modeline somehow [20:06] bah, no adb :/ [20:07] how do you try to run it ? [20:08] ogra_: put an entry in rc.local [20:08] /sbin/adbd & [20:08] and it still complains about firmware [20:08] even though I copied it to /lib/firmware [20:09] Good Idea or bad Idea. any feed back is awesome thanks. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfvCUjf7HJs [20:09] shadeslayer, where does that adbd come from ? [20:09] (in /sbin) [20:10] from the recovery [20:10] it's a standalone binary [20:11] well [20:11] it doesnt link to bionic ? [20:11] (which you dont have in ubuntu, we use libc) [20:11] uh, it said : not a dynamic executable [20:11] erm [20:11] ldd said [20:12] file ? [20:12] you want me to host the file somewhere? [20:12] no, what does the file command say [20:13] adbd: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, ARM, version 1 (SYSV), statically linked, stripped [20:13] hmm, k [20:13] though its likely compiled for ARMv6 ... [20:13] but even that shouldnt stop it from starting [20:13] would that make a difference even though if it's statically compiled [20:14] yeah [20:14] http://paste.kde.org/730844/ [20:14] that's what I have [20:14] i guess you miss some device setup that android would do for you [20:15] ah [20:15] hmm [20:15] hard to tell ... redirect the output to a file [20:15] yeah doing that [20:15] does sdbd have any options ? [20:15] -vvvvvv [20:16] or some such :) [20:16] it doesn't implement -h :P [20:16] hah [20:19] eh [20:19] no /var/log/adbd.log [20:19] heh [20:19] touch it :P [20:19] oh, you mean it didnt output [20:19] i thought that was the error msg [20:19] yeah [20:20] it didn't output [20:20] hos did you set up the redirect ? [20:20] though rc.local magically changed permissions to 666 [20:20] *how [20:20] /sbin/adbd &> /var/log/adbd.log & [20:20] lol [20:20] thats a bashism [20:20] oh god [20:21] *headesk* [20:21] /sbin/adbd >/var/log/adbd.log 2>&1 & [20:21] right [20:21] hate shell :/ [20:22] <3 shell [20:22] as long as its POSIX [20:24] I suspect I'll have to strace it [20:24] yeah, still nothing [20:24] you might hang at the echo above ... [20:24] hmm [20:25] try adding || true [20:25] to both ends of the lines [20:25] (both echos) [20:29] ogra_: what then? [20:29] ? [20:30] uh I meant, how can I tell if it hung at the switch after adding || true [20:31] if it didnt, you should have a file ... [20:31] eh lol [20:31] It doesn't even run rc.local [20:31] I put : echo "Disabling usb for adb switch" > /var/log/adbd.log [20:32] as the first thing in rc.local [20:32] and /var/log/adbd.log is still empty [20:32] *but* [20:32] I see : [ 18.918466] android_usb: already disabled [20:32] [ 18.933087] warning: `adbd' uses 32-bit capabilities (legacy support in use) [20:32] in dmesg [20:34] meh, let's just use openssh over usb, if possible [20:38] well, i'll call it a day ... good luck :) [20:38] bye :) [20:38] thanks :) [20:38] :) [20:40] anyone around who can help me reflash my Nexus7 with the latest phablet image? [20:40] adb devices won;t recognize it even though I see it through dmesg and lsusb [20:41] I fear I'm doing something wrong [20:43] bregma: whats it go on it now [20:43] got [20:43] it's got a current Ubuntu desktop image [20:44] bregma: then you need to do the manual instructions I think [20:44] they seem to require adb see the device, too [20:44] is sergiusens around? [20:44] I can use fastboot to reboot it, so it's talking to my system [20:45] phablet-flash isn't working for me atm, but I think that's because of raring change over taking place atm [20:46] did ogra_ leave? I think he did this onhis [20:47] bregma: have you used adb to the device before? [20:48] try another usb port, check the cable, etc have been known to happen [20:48] well, I've flashed it with Ubuntu images before, so I assume so [20:48] hmm [20:48] mm, right, Pournelle's Law (it's usually a cable) [20:51] pmcgowan: I'm around [20:52] bregma: maybe restart the service and ensure its running as root [20:52] sergiusens: bregma having toruble with his nexus 7 [20:52] just found http://sergiusens.github.io/posts/installing-ubuntu-touch-preview-on-the-nexus-7-with-ubuntu-on-it.html [20:52] sergiusens: adb not work [20:53] should the device be in dead robot mode or recovery mode or any special state? [20:53] bregma: so you have a nexus 7 with what? [20:53] I believe it's the latest Ubuntu desktop image [20:53] bregma: fastoboot when in the bootloader, adb when in recovery and android OS [20:54] bregma: the link above are the instructions [20:54] OK, and fastboot definitely talks to the device but adb doesn't when it's in recovery mode [20:55] bregma: sideload? [20:55] bregma: from the instructions you need to boot from the recovery img in the bootloader [20:55] bregma: or adb in general? [20:56] "adb devices" does not see the device [20:56] sergiusens: is this the first step: sudo fastboot boot quantal-preinstalled-recovery-armel+grouper.img [20:57] bregma: ok, how familiar are you with android? [20:57] andoir? not at all [20:57] oh, ok [20:57] bregma: power off [20:57] OK [20:57] bregma: then follow that blog verbatim [20:58] * sergiusens notices that latest nikola broke... hmmm [20:58] bregma: change quantal refs to raring ones [20:59] RobbyF: what problem are you having with phablet-flash? [20:59] oh nm I see [20:59] * bregma searches for his bifocals so he can read what's on the N7 screen [21:00] sergiusens: flashing busted? [21:01] pmcgowan: I flashed perfectly fine before sending my email... [21:02] sergiusens: getting an error latest build detection not supported [21:02] today's build won't install unless you have phablet0tools - 0.11 [21:02] pmcgowan: did you update? [21:02] sergiusens: I just did on raring to latest everything [21:03] the versioning there is wack though [21:03] pmcgowan: what is it? [21:03] 0.10.daily13.04.17blahblahblah [21:04] sergiusens: main doesnt have that update yet probably [21:04] pmcgowan: do you have the ppa? if you upgraded from quantal it was probably disabled [21:05] pmcgowan: that's the prev version [21:05] pmcgowan: add-apt-repository ppa:phablet-team/tools [21:05] pmcgowan: apt-get update && apt-get install phablet-tools [21:05] sergiusens: right but tools are in main on raring apparently? [21:05] oh no I am wrong [21:06] pmcgowan: nope, you still have the one that was prolly installed from quantal or precise (if you updated) [21:06] sergiusens: I see it on quantal, not raring, will do update [21:06] maybe timing was bad [21:07] pmcgowan: the package was in 5 hours ago... not sure what happened ;-) [21:08] sergiusens: yep its there, just missed it === salem_ is now known as _salem [21:17] What is the point of putting Ubuntu Touch on the Nexus 4 if it only suppors HSPA+? [21:18] *supports [21:20] I thought Touch only supported GSM. [21:20] I'm waiting for it to support LTE [21:21] * bregma is patient [21:21] it is still a developer version [21:21] Is there a broader road map that will include CDMA, HSPA+ and IDEN? [21:24] Or is that a stupid question? :) [21:25] I have installed the latest phablet install to a nexus 4, I am loving it, My next question would be how can I help, and how can I get help? [21:26] GeekSquid: You've come to the right place for now. [21:27] SonikkuAmerica: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/client-1303-converged-network-stack [21:27] netcurli: Ah, thanks. [21:28] Next question, when using nano via adb why doesn't the enter key work when trying to write out a file [21:29] Spotted «WiFi direct support is in Android, not clear how important it is for touch tough» inside wpasupplicant: I would think it would be for a couple of reasons. [21:47] Hi. Anybody know anything about the work with mobile data. I know the 3G/4G doesn't work, but what about EDGE? [21:56] ogra_: /etc/rc.local isn't run at all [22:00] Minste, mobile data support is in progress [22:00] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/client-1303-telephony-stack [22:01] it requires Network Manager work in addition to the ofono/RILD work [22:04] Thanks for information :) Looking forward to it, mobile data is the only thing missing for me to use it daily :D [22:05] Minste, your welcome [22:17] I am trying to have a slider in a tab, but when I try to interact with the slider i just switch tab [22:17] Anyone encountered the same problem or have a solution? [22:19] Damp: this issue is being fixed at the moment. The default behavior to switch tabs by swiping has been removed by default. This should fix the issue with your slider [22:19] it will land as an update soon [22:19] Ok, so it is a known issue? [22:19] anyone using quantal here? [22:19] Damp: check out https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1166709 [22:19] Launchpad bug 1166709 in Ubuntu UI Toolkit "[tabs] Tabs should only be navigated by swiping or tapping on the header area" [Critical,In progress] [22:20] Damp: yeah it is a known issue [22:20] Then its allright and I wont file a bug report :p [22:20] I just updated qtcreator and now it is not running anymore.. symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/platforms/libqxcb.so: undefined symbol: _ZN15QPlatformWindow17formatWindowTitleERK7QStringS2_ [22:33] hey, congrats everyone on getting onto raring [22:33] good times [22:42] rickspencer3 what do you mean? [22:43] hi Damp [22:44] Damp, I was referring to this: https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/msg01797.html [22:45] IF I update to a daily image then I'll get 13.04 or whats it called [22:46] Damp, I would assume that is the case, but I am not a definitive source [22:47] Damp: yes the daily is now base on 13.04 === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [22:48] should not see any difference in functionality [22:48] Is there some big updates with this so I should update at once? [22:48] nope [22:48] its just where the development will be focused now, until we move to S === SkavenXXI is now known as SkavenXXI-[OFF] [22:53] Anyone good with Black Screen Boot Errors? === ZaEarl_ is now known as Syke === chriadam|away is now known as chriadam