| snap-l | I will never get tired of bands contacting me for playing their music on the podcast | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| rick_h_ | snap-l: awesome | 00:00 |
| snap-l | :) | 00:00 |
| rick_h_ | hopefuly in a good way vs a 'wft man?!' way | 00:00 |
| snap-l | Heh | 00:01 |
| snap-l | Yeah, it's all good | 00:01 |
| snap-l | Usually it's surprise that someone noticed. | 00:01 |
| snap-l | Which makes two of us | 00:01 |
| rick_h_ | lol | 00:01 |
| rick_h_ | hmmm, 37hr backup. This is more fun than I thought | 00:04 |
| snap-l | Also the next time I decide to take up Packt on reviewing one of their books, please smack me | 00:05 |
| rick_h_ | lol | 00:05 |
| snap-l | Looking at this INstant Pygame book | 00:05 |
| rick_h_ | snap-l: which jewel did you get? | 00:05 |
| rick_h_ | ah | 00:05 |
| snap-l | fucking trainwreck | 00:05 |
| snap-l | Starts off by having people install Python 2.6 | 00:05 |
| snap-l | and doesn't sow them how to install Pygame | 00:06 |
| rick_h_ | :( | 00:06 |
| snap-l | and punts off installing Numpy to another book | 00:06 |
| snap-l | which seems to be used for generating a random tuple of numbers for a RGBA value | 00:06 |
| snap-l | Oh, brillant | 00:08 |
| snap-l | They use numpy to generate a list of list of integers | 00:08 |
| snap-l | 4x3 list | 00:08 |
| snap-l | and then have people use color[0] | 00:09 |
| snap-l | Initializing arrays: We will define some arrays to hold the coordinates of the | 00:10 |
| snap-l | positions, where we would like to put the image during the animation. Since the | 00:10 |
| snap-l | object will be moved, there are four logical sections of the path: right, down, left, | 00:10 |
| snap-l | and up. Each of these sections will have 40 equidistant steps. We will initialize | 00:10 |
| snap-l | all the values in the sections to 0: | 00:10 |
| snap-l | steps = numpy.linspace(20, 360, 40).astype(int) | 00:10 |
| snap-l | right = numpy.zeros((2, len(steps))) | 00:10 |
| snap-l | down = numpy.zeros((2, len(steps))) | 00:10 |
| snap-l | left = numpy.zeros((2, len(steps))) | 00:10 |
| snap-l | up = numpy.zeros((2, len(steps))) | 00:10 |
| snap-l | So later on the author then concatenates these into a positional array of x,y coordinates. | 00:15 |
| snap-l | Talk about the long way. | 00:15 |
| snap-l | Using Matplotlib with Pygame (Simple) | 00:18 |
| snap-l | That's a fucking topic in here | 00:18 |
| rick_h_ | lol | 00:18 |
| snap-l | We need to have a MPEG movie for this demo. Once you have a movie you can convert it to be | 00:20 |
| snap-l | used in a Pygame game with the following command: | 00:20 |
| snap-l | ffmpeg -i <infile> -vcodec mpeg1video -acodec libmp3lame -intra <outfile. | 00:20 |
| snap-l | mpg> | 00:20 |
| snap-l | I'm on page 28. There's 55 pages. | 00:20 |
| snap-l | They mentioned blitting in passing | 00:20 |
| snap-l | http://paste.mitechie.com/show/TqOFgW2b2ezYnU55Lkpt/ | 00:29 |
| snap-l | Calling uncle with the publisher. | 00:29 |
| rick_h_ | hmm, so last night the backup estimate (after running for 5hrs) was 1d 10hrs. Then I went to bed and it's at 1d 6hrs. I thought I got more sleep than that lol | 11:10 |
| snap-l | heh | 11:11 |
| snap-l | what are you using to back up your files? | 11:12 |
| rick_h_ | built in 'backup' feature on the NAS | 11:19 |
| rick_h_ | but yea, usb2 fml | 11:19 |
| rick_h_ | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NoxiK7K28PU is kind of badass | 11:42 |
| rick_h_ | interesting, my last 4 amazon orders have all gone out Prestige, no ups | 12:06 |
| snap-l | rick_h_: Yeah, I've noticed that | 12:38 |
| snap-l | Well, not your orders inparticular | 12:38 |
| snap-l | There have been times when my order was handed off to the post office while coming UPS | 12:39 |
| snap-l | I think it's all about who can make the last mile more efficiently. | 12:39 |
| rick_h_ | yea, I don't usually get the USPS | 12:41 |
| rick_h_ | but normally if I order late prestige gets it so that they can meet the 2nd day | 12:41 |
| rick_h_ | more guys in a van than big brown truck | 12:41 |
| rick_h_ | but normally it's once in a while. strange that all things the last week | 12:41 |
| jrwren_ | my interent download speeds are faster than usb1 now :) | 13:22 |
| snap-l | Yea, that's sick isn't it? | 13:23 |
| jrwren_ | i love it. | 13:23 |
| jrwren_ | maybe in anotehr 10 yrs it will be faster than usb2 :) | 13:23 |
| snap-l | Yeah, and it'll cost one iMac a month. | 13:23 |
| jrwren_ | nah. | 13:29 |
| jrwren_ | did I share my insane download speeds since comcast doubled the area speeds? | 13:30 |
| snap-l | I don't think so | 13:30 |
| jrwren_ | 6.44MByte/s | 13:31 |
| snap-l | Down or up? | 13:31 |
| jrwren_ | down | 13:31 |
| jrwren_ | i've not tested up. | 13:31 |
| jrwren_ | i don't have a good way :( turns out writes to s3 are notoriously slow. | 13:31 |
| jrwren_ | i'll have to spin up and ec2 instance and try writing to that. | 13:31 |
| jrwren_ | but still, 60+Mbit, I'm happy with that. | 13:32 |
| snap-l | testmy.net is pretty good | 13:36 |
| snap-l | Still, that's awesome. I'm paying extra to get the 30/ 3 package from WOW! | 13:37 |
| === jrwren_ is now known as jrwren | ||
| greg-g | huh, I just hit an "advancedhosters.com" ubuntu mirror on my work laptop apt-get update | 17:14 |
| greg-g | maybe I'm too old internet domain wise, but that looks non-legit to me | 17:14 |
| rick_h_ | greg-g: yea, not sure on that | 17:14 |
| snap-l | Is it a mirror perhaps? | 17:15 |
| greg-g | it's an official mirror | 17:15 |
| greg-g | this is in my sources.list: | 17:15 |
| greg-g | deb mirror://mirrors.ubuntu.com/mirrors.txt | 17:15 |
| brousch | greg-g: I thought you ditched Ubuntu | 17:18 |
| greg-g | brousch: on my personal machine, this work one came with Ubuntu pre-installed (it is the POS dell xps) and I was already sprinting so much my first week (it was an in town week for all of my coworkers, so no down time what so ever). | 17:19 |
| * greg-g is lazy, too | 17:19 | |
| brousch | What do the wikipedia servers run? | 17:19 |
| greg-g | Ubuntu Precise currently, but there's rumbling of moving to Debian. | 17:20 |
| brousch | nice | 17:20 |
| snap-l | http://www.atarimania.com/documents-atari-atari-400-800-xl-xe--books_1_8.html | 17:20 |
| brousch | I love Ubuntu server | 17:21 |
| rick_h_ | greg-g: has it given them grief on the server? Or just for other reasons? | 17:21 |
| greg-g | rick_h_: I'm not sure, honestly. I haven't heard anything along the grief lines. | 17:25 |
| rick_h_ | greg-g: cool, just curious | 17:26 |
| greg-g | we have a couple DDs on staff, but also an OpenStack contributor, so... /me shrugs | 17:26 |
| snap-l | It's all greg-g's doing | 17:28 |
| snap-l | fess up | 17:28 |
| * greg-g hangs head | 17:29 | |
| rick_h_ | greg-g: so I've met two others with that laptop and like it. Though one mentions the keyboard is mushy and can get double key-presses which is a red falg | 17:29 |
| rick_h_ | flag | 17:29 |
| greg-g | yeah, definitely experience that | 17:29 |
| snap-l | Isn't that supposed to be their gaming laptop? | 17:29 |
| rick_h_ | :/ wonder if you got a dud? | 17:29 |
| greg-g | and the keyboard layout is just damn annoying to someone coming from a thinkpad | 17:30 |
| snap-l | double press == red flag | 17:30 |
| rick_h_ | snap-l: no, they just did a new alienware thing with ubuntu that's diff | 17:30 |
| snap-l | Ah, Ok | 17:30 |
| rick_h_ | man, I'm so trying to want to love newsblur...but it's making it so hard! | 17:32 |
| brousch | What's the pro blem? | 17:34 |
| rick_h_ | the ux is so bulky and extra content. Doesn't flow. Have to check items 2 or three times before it marks read | 17:37 |
| brousch | darnit | 17:37 |
| greg-g | the lack of keybindings is annoying | 17:37 |
| rick_h_ | so j/k works out ok | 17:38 |
| rick_h_ | went nuts setting "show only unread" on every single damn thing until I happened upon the global setting | 17:38 |
| rick_h_ | should default to the first item open for reading | 17:39 |
| rick_h_ | the === Sun === footer needs to go. It's taller than many feeds | 17:39 |
| rick_h_ | and all of the header 'buttons' need to go. | 17:40 |
| greg-g | rick_h_: I mean scrolling, mostly. | 17:43 |
| rick_h_ | greg-g: space doesn't work? /me goes to see if there's something new to try | 17:44 |
| jrwren | what are DDs? | 18:05 |
| rick_h_ | Debian Developers | 18:08 |
| jcastro | bittorrent sync is pretty awesome guys | 18:19 |
| jcastro | just installed it on all my stuff | 18:19 |
| greg-g | ? | 18:24 |
| ColonelPanic001 | I've thought of trying that | 18:26 |
| ColonelPanic001 | just saw it a few minutes ago | 18:26 |
| ColonelPanic001 | greg-g: http://labs.bittorrent.com/experiments/sync/technology.html | 18:26 |
| ColonelPanic001 | like dropbox, but serverless, and over Bittorrent | 18:26 |
| greg-g | huh, neat | 18:27 |
| ColonelPanic001 | yeah. Only downside is you'd need at least one node up anytime you wanted to sync | 18:27 |
| ColonelPanic001 | something to sync from | 18:27 |
| ColonelPanic001 | but, aside from that, looks neat | 18:28 |
| greg-g | yeah, which most of us have ;) | 18:28 |
| ColonelPanic001 | hi flippy | 18:28 |
| flipsidecreation | hi | 18:28 |
| greg-g | ColonelPanic001: bittorrent.com doesn't do FLOSS, right? | 18:28 |
| ColonelPanic001 | greg-g: yeah, generally. I don't anymore (used to, but now my work machine is a laptop), but even still, kind of nice | 18:28 |
| ColonelPanic001 | greg-g: not sure, tbh | 18:28 |
| ColonelPanic001 | I very rarely torrent, not really into that stuff | 18:28 |
| greg-g | I can't find a source/repo link, so I'm guessing now | 18:28 |
| ColonelPanic001 | I use bt to get linux distros, that's it | 18:28 |
| greg-g | just meant the company, but yeah | 18:28 |
| ColonelPanic001 | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5595806 | 18:29 |
| ColonelPanic001 | some discussion | 18:29 |
| ColonelPanic001 | fwiw | 18:29 |
| greg-g | I don't open those links | 18:31 |
| greg-g | :P | 18:31 |
| ColonelPanic001 | those ones? | 18:34 |
| ColonelPanic001 | "I don't like discussion" | 18:34 |
| snap-l | I use BT for Humble Bundle Games to help save them bandwidth | 18:36 |
| snap-l | I wish Ubuntu used it for their private repos. | 18:36 |
| ColonelPanic001 | that too, actually. | 18:37 |
| ColonelPanic001 | to download linux installers, and humble bundle | 18:37 |
| ColonelPanic001 | I wish they'd do another ebook humblebundle, that was awesome | 18:37 |
| snap-l | Yeah, it was | 18:37 |
| snap-l | also, pearson education is a bunch of fuckwits | 18:38 |
| greg-g | ColonelPanic001: hackernews, specifically | 18:38 |
| greg-g | snap-l: is this channel logged anymore? | 18:38 |
| ColonelPanic001 | greg-g: ah. Why's that? I'm not a hardcore fan or anything, just a site I flip through here and there. | 18:38 |
| snap-l | 30% discount, but they took it off of the price of the paper edition | 18:38 |
| ColonelPanic001 | oh, he's asking about logging. This must be good. | 18:38 |
| greg-g | ColonelPanic001: full of people I live near that I wish I didn't :) | 18:38 |
| snap-l | greg-g: I think it is | 18:38 |
| ColonelPanic001 | hah | 18:38 |
| snap-l | but it's a matter of public record, as far as I'm concerned | 18:38 |
| greg-g | snap-l: that was a pre-emptive question ;) | 18:39 |
| snap-l | greg-g: Oh? :) | 18:39 |
| ColonelPanic001 | I was hoping he just had really good dirty gossip on HN, and didn't want it logged. >_> | 18:39 |
| greg-g | :) | 18:39 |
| snap-l | Let's just say Pearson makes me appreciate clueful publishers like O'Reilly all the more | 18:42 |
| snap-l | and Apress to a certain extent | 18:43 |
| greg-g | :) | 18:43 |
| brousch | We rule. East side drools http://www.mlive.com/business/west-michigan/index.ssf/2013/04/forbes_list_grand_rapids_ranks.html | 19:03 |
| flipsidecreation | Detroit is number one for a few things.... | 19:07 |
| flipsidecreation | Good job Grand Rapids :) | 19:08 |
| ColonelPanic001 | >:-| | 19:40 |
| brousch | Want to have a job and raise a happy family while drinking craft beers? | 19:41 |
| ColonelPanic001 | yes, meh, yes | 19:41 |
| ColonelPanic001 | my family being happy ins't a priority | 19:41 |
| brousch | We don't want your kind! | 19:42 |
| ColonelPanic001 | no kids, and the wife married me, so I assume she's accepted a life of misery | 19:42 |
| snap-l | Maybe that's what Detroit needs - more churches on corners than 7-11s | 19:46 |
| snap-l | Or is that a Holland-thing? | 19:46 |
| brousch | GR has too many churches too | 19:53 |
| * ColonelPanic001 gets Norwegian black metal bands on the phone | 20:03 | |
| * jrwren curses distutils and setuptool | 20:44 | |
| brousch | jrwren: Don't curse them! You'll make them worse! | 20:46 |
| jrwren | unpossible. | 20:47 |
| jrwren | is this answer wrong? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6344076/differences-between-distribute-distutils-setuptools-and-distutils2/14753678#14753678 | 20:48 |
| jrwren | i thought i fell under the "unless your needs are very basic and I only need distutils" | 20:49 |
| jrwren | but AFAICT there is no way to specify requirements in distutils | 20:49 |
| brousch | I've only used pip and setuptools (via modern-package-template) | 20:53 |
| jrwren | pip is irrelevant | 20:56 |
| jrwren | i'm trying to write a setup.py | 20:56 |
| jrwren | trying to use only distutils | 20:56 |
| snap-l | jrwren: Any reason you're not considering modern-package-template? | 20:56 |
| jrwren | cuz its not moderna | 20:57 |
| snap-l | https://pypi.python.org/pypi/modern-package-template | 20:57 |
| jrwren | setuptools is dead | 20:57 |
| jrwren | oh, it uses Distrubte *sigh* | 20:57 |
| jrwren | didn't want to take the dep. | 20:57 |
| jrwren | I'll look at it | 20:57 |
| snap-l | yeah, I've packaged several things with it | 20:57 |
| greg-g | "I'm not drunk, I'm just drinking. I'm not stoned, I'm just thinkin'" | 20:57 |
| greg-g | oh SomaFM boot liquor radio, how I love you | 20:57 |
| brousch | No python3 version | 20:57 |
| snap-l | it makes things nice | 20:57 |
| snap-l | brousch: who uses Python3 ? | 20:58 |
| snap-l | Sheesh, what are you? Perl6? | 20:58 |
| jrwren | right, sticking with distutils was getting me py3 | 20:58 |
| jrwren | python3 is awesome | 20:58 |
| jrwren | as is pypy | 20:58 |
| brousch | Only the awesome devs use Python3 | 20:58 |
| snap-l | Distribute supports Python3 | 20:58 |
| brousch | modern-package-template does not | 20:59 |
| brousch | It uses paste and all that crap | 20:59 |
| jrwren | it uses setuptools, at least the version I still have instaelled. | 21:00 |
| brousch | "modern-package-template is a PasteScript template to create an initial layout for your Python projects" | 21:01 |
| brousch | last release apr 2010 | 21:02 |
| snap-l | brousch: If only rick_h_ were here to set you straight. :) | 21:02 |
| brousch | ha | 21:03 |
| brousch | I asked him at his pyohio talk about python3 and modern-package-template and he told me to go fix it myself | 21:03 |
| snap-l | brousch: And did you? | 21:03 |
| snap-l | Noooooo | 21:03 |
| brousch | Even the pyramid guy ran away from python3 paste | 21:04 |
| brousch | time to go home | 21:04 |
| snap-l | Same here. At least, time to go to the board meeting. | 21:05 |
| greg-g | so bourgeois | 21:06 |
| greg-g | excuse me while I get aboard my private jet to attend our board meeting | 21:06 |
| jrwren | python3 then import setuptools and it works. now I"m more confused than ever. | 21:08 |
| jrwren | I thought setuptools didn't come with py3 | 21:08 |
| jrwren | *sigh* | 21:08 |
| rick_h_ | jrwren: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/distutils-sig/2013-March/020126.html | 21:37 |
| rick_h_ | yea paste was replaced | 21:37 |
| rick_h_ | setuptools can be installed, not included ootb. | 21:38 |
| rick_h_ | jrwren: but python packaging sucks for anything but basic stuff really | 21:39 |
| rick_h_ | I think pastescript was replaced with whatever pcreate is | 21:44 |
| rick_h_ | unfortunately most of the Paste world and unit tests didn't go hand in hand | 21:44 |
| rick_h_ | jrwren: http://guide.python-distribute.org/ is also probably the most maintained doc these days | 21:57 |
| greg-g | wow, caprisun is... crap | 22:02 |
| rick_h_ | greg-g: lol | 22:03 |
| rick_h_ | not had that since I was 10 or so | 22:03 |
| greg-g | me neither, but it was in the break room fridge | 22:04 |
| greg-g | and I needed something sugary, should've had just plain OJ | 22:04 |
| rick_h_ | doh | 22:05 |
| rick_h_ | yea, I remember it probably more fondly than I'd find it today | 22:05 |
| greg-g | it says "no artificial colors, flavors, or preservatives" | 22:05 |
| jrwren | where I come from, this kind of thing is called shit | 22:05 |
| jrwren | http://hg.python.org/cpython/file/a389700fbc74/Lib/distutils/versionpredicate.py | 22:05 |
| rick_h_ | just full of suck? | 22:05 |
| greg-g | yep, can't see, the individual things don't have the ingredients | 22:06 |
| jrwren | anyway, setuptools is in python3 on both mac and ubuntu, so I guess I'm ok with using it | 22:06 |
| rick_h_ | jrwren: what's shit now? | 22:07 |
| rick_h_ | jrwren: the version string checker stuff? | 22:07 |
| jrwren | yes, the version string checker stuff | 22:57 |
| jrwren | its pretty bad | 22:57 |
| flipsidecreation | hi | 23:00 |
| jrwren | hi flipsidecreation how are you? | 23:04 |
| flipsidecreation | good. | 23:05 |
| flipsidecreation | I have been looking for a way in Ubuntu to intergrate keepass with firefox for password sync. I have tried KeeFox and loading keep pass using mono but it did not work all that well. Any open source alternatives? | 23:08 |
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