[00:00] I will never get tired of bands contacting me for playing their music on the podcast [00:00] snap-l: awesome [00:00] :) [00:00] hopefuly in a good way vs a 'wft man?!' way [00:01] Heh [00:01] Yeah, it's all good [00:01] Usually it's surprise that someone noticed. [00:01] Which makes two of us [00:01] lol [00:04] hmmm, 37hr backup. This is more fun than I thought [00:05] Also the next time I decide to take up Packt on reviewing one of their books, please smack me [00:05] lol [00:05] Looking at this INstant Pygame book [00:05] snap-l: which jewel did you get? [00:05] ah [00:05] fucking trainwreck [00:05] Starts off by having people install Python 2.6 [00:06] and doesn't sow them how to install Pygame [00:06] :( [00:06] and punts off installing Numpy to another book [00:06] which seems to be used for generating a random tuple of numbers for a RGBA value [00:08] Oh, brillant [00:08] They use numpy to generate a list of list of integers [00:08] 4x3 list [00:09] and then have people use color[0] [00:10] Initializing arrays: We will define some arrays to hold the coordinates of the [00:10] positions, where we would like to put the image during the animation. Since the [00:10] object will be moved, there are four logical sections of the path: right, down, left, [00:10] and up. Each of these sections will have 40 equidistant steps. We will initialize [00:10] all the values in the sections to 0: [00:10] steps = numpy.linspace(20, 360, 40).astype(int) [00:10] right = numpy.zeros((2, len(steps))) [00:10] down = numpy.zeros((2, len(steps))) [00:10] left = numpy.zeros((2, len(steps))) [00:10] up = numpy.zeros((2, len(steps))) [00:15] So later on the author then concatenates these into a positional array of x,y coordinates. [00:15] Talk about the long way. [00:18] Using Matplotlib with Pygame (Simple) [00:18] That's a fucking topic in here [00:18] lol [00:20] We need to have a MPEG movie for this demo. Once you have a movie you can convert it to be [00:20] used in a Pygame game with the following command: [00:20] ffmpeg -i -vcodec mpeg1video -acodec libmp3lame -intra mpg> [00:20] I'm on page 28. There's 55 pages. [00:20] They mentioned blitting in passing [00:29] http://paste.mitechie.com/show/TqOFgW2b2ezYnU55Lkpt/ [00:29] Calling uncle with the publisher. [11:10] hmm, so last night the backup estimate (after running for 5hrs) was 1d 10hrs. Then I went to bed and it's at 1d 6hrs. I thought I got more sleep than that lol [11:11] heh [11:12] what are you using to back up your files? [11:19] built in 'backup' feature on the NAS [11:19] but yea, usb2 fml [11:42] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NoxiK7K28PU is kind of badass [12:06] interesting, my last 4 amazon orders have all gone out Prestige, no ups [12:38] rick_h_: Yeah, I've noticed that [12:38] Well, not your orders inparticular [12:39] There have been times when my order was handed off to the post office while coming UPS [12:39] I think it's all about who can make the last mile more efficiently. [12:41] yea, I don't usually get the USPS [12:41] but normally if I order late prestige gets it so that they can meet the 2nd day [12:41] more guys in a van than big brown truck [12:41] but normally it's once in a while. strange that all things the last week [13:22] my interent download speeds are faster than usb1 now :) [13:23] Yea, that's sick isn't it? [13:23] i love it. [13:23] maybe in anotehr 10 yrs it will be faster than usb2 :) [13:23] Yeah, and it'll cost one iMac a month. [13:29] nah. [13:30] did I share my insane download speeds since comcast doubled the area speeds? [13:30] I don't think so [13:31] 6.44MByte/s [13:31] Down or up? [13:31] down [13:31] i've not tested up. [13:31] i don't have a good way :( turns out writes to s3 are notoriously slow. [13:31] i'll have to spin up and ec2 instance and try writing to that. [13:32] but still, 60+Mbit, I'm happy with that. [13:36] testmy.net is pretty good [13:37] Still, that's awesome. I'm paying extra to get the 30/ 3 package from WOW! === jrwren_ is now known as jrwren [17:14] huh, I just hit an "advancedhosters.com" ubuntu mirror on my work laptop apt-get update [17:14] maybe I'm too old internet domain wise, but that looks non-legit to me [17:14] greg-g: yea, not sure on that [17:15] Is it a mirror perhaps? [17:15] it's an official mirror [17:15] this is in my sources.list: [17:15] deb mirror://mirrors.ubuntu.com/mirrors.txt [17:18] greg-g: I thought you ditched Ubuntu [17:19] brousch: on my personal machine, this work one came with Ubuntu pre-installed (it is the POS dell xps) and I was already sprinting so much my first week (it was an in town week for all of my coworkers, so no down time what so ever). [17:19] * greg-g is lazy, too [17:19] What do the wikipedia servers run? [17:20] Ubuntu Precise currently, but there's rumbling of moving to Debian. [17:20] nice [17:20] http://www.atarimania.com/documents-atari-atari-400-800-xl-xe--books_1_8.html [17:21] I love Ubuntu server [17:21] greg-g: has it given them grief on the server? Or just for other reasons? [17:25] rick_h_: I'm not sure, honestly. I haven't heard anything along the grief lines. [17:26] greg-g: cool, just curious [17:26] we have a couple DDs on staff, but also an OpenStack contributor, so... /me shrugs [17:28] It's all greg-g's doing [17:28] fess up [17:29] * greg-g hangs head [17:29] greg-g: so I've met two others with that laptop and like it. Though one mentions the keyboard is mushy and can get double key-presses which is a red falg [17:29] flag [17:29] yeah, definitely experience that [17:29] Isn't that supposed to be their gaming laptop? [17:29] :/ wonder if you got a dud? [17:30] and the keyboard layout is just damn annoying to someone coming from a thinkpad [17:30] double press == red flag [17:30] snap-l: no, they just did a new alienware thing with ubuntu that's diff [17:30] Ah, Ok [17:32] man, I'm so trying to want to love newsblur...but it's making it so hard! [17:34] What's the pro blem? [17:37] the ux is so bulky and extra content. Doesn't flow. Have to check items 2 or three times before it marks read [17:37] darnit [17:37] the lack of keybindings is annoying [17:38] so j/k works out ok [17:38] went nuts setting "show only unread" on every single damn thing until I happened upon the global setting [17:39] should default to the first item open for reading [17:39] the === Sun === footer needs to go. It's taller than many feeds [17:40] and all of the header 'buttons' need to go. [17:43] rick_h_: I mean scrolling, mostly. [17:44] greg-g: space doesn't work? /me goes to see if there's something new to try [18:05] what are DDs? [18:08] Debian Developers [18:19] bittorrent sync is pretty awesome guys [18:19] just installed it on all my stuff [18:24] ? [18:26] I've thought of trying that [18:26] just saw it a few minutes ago [18:26] greg-g: http://labs.bittorrent.com/experiments/sync/technology.html [18:26] like dropbox, but serverless, and over Bittorrent [18:27] huh, neat [18:27] yeah. Only downside is you'd need at least one node up anytime you wanted to sync [18:27] something to sync from [18:28] but, aside from that, looks neat [18:28] yeah, which most of us have ;) [18:28] hi flippy [18:28] hi [18:28] ColonelPanic001: bittorrent.com doesn't do FLOSS, right? [18:28] greg-g: yeah, generally. I don't anymore (used to, but now my work machine is a laptop), but even still, kind of nice [18:28] greg-g: not sure, tbh [18:28] I very rarely torrent, not really into that stuff [18:28] I can't find a source/repo link, so I'm guessing now [18:28] I use bt to get linux distros, that's it [18:28] just meant the company, but yeah [18:29] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5595806 [18:29] some discussion [18:29] fwiw [18:31] I don't open those links [18:31] :P [18:34] those ones? [18:34] "I don't like discussion" [18:36] I use BT for Humble Bundle Games to help save them bandwidth [18:36] I wish Ubuntu used it for their private repos. [18:37] that too, actually. [18:37] to download linux installers, and humble bundle [18:37] I wish they'd do another ebook humblebundle, that was awesome [18:37] Yeah, it was [18:38] also, pearson education is a bunch of fuckwits [18:38] ColonelPanic001: hackernews, specifically [18:38] snap-l: is this channel logged anymore? [18:38] greg-g: ah. Why's that? I'm not a hardcore fan or anything, just a site I flip through here and there. [18:38] 30% discount, but they took it off of the price of the paper edition [18:38] oh, he's asking about logging. This must be good. [18:38] ColonelPanic001: full of people I live near that I wish I didn't :) [18:38] greg-g: I think it is [18:38] hah [18:38] but it's a matter of public record, as far as I'm concerned [18:39] snap-l: that was a pre-emptive question ;) [18:39] greg-g: Oh? :) [18:39] I was hoping he just had really good dirty gossip on HN, and didn't want it logged. >_> [18:39] :) [18:42] Let's just say Pearson makes me appreciate clueful publishers like O'Reilly all the more [18:43] and Apress to a certain extent [18:43] :) [19:03] We rule. East side drools http://www.mlive.com/business/west-michigan/index.ssf/2013/04/forbes_list_grand_rapids_ranks.html [19:07] Detroit is number one for a few things.... [19:08] Good job Grand Rapids :) [19:40] >:-| [19:41] Want to have a job and raise a happy family while drinking craft beers? [19:41] yes, meh, yes [19:41] my family being happy ins't a priority [19:42] We don't want your kind! [19:42] no kids, and the wife married me, so I assume she's accepted a life of misery [19:46] Maybe that's what Detroit needs - more churches on corners than 7-11s [19:46] Or is that a Holland-thing? [19:53] GR has too many churches too [20:03] * ColonelPanic001 gets Norwegian black metal bands on the phone [20:44] * jrwren curses distutils and setuptool [20:46] jrwren: Don't curse them! You'll make them worse! [20:47] unpossible. [20:48] is this answer wrong? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6344076/differences-between-distribute-distutils-setuptools-and-distutils2/14753678#14753678 [20:49] i thought i fell under the "unless your needs are very basic and I only need distutils" [20:49] but AFAICT there is no way to specify requirements in distutils [20:53] I've only used pip and setuptools (via modern-package-template) [20:56] pip is irrelevant [20:56] i'm trying to write a setup.py [20:56] trying to use only distutils [20:56] jrwren: Any reason you're not considering modern-package-template? [20:57] cuz its not moderna [20:57] https://pypi.python.org/pypi/modern-package-template [20:57] setuptools is dead [20:57] oh, it uses Distrubte *sigh* [20:57] didn't want to take the dep. [20:57] I'll look at it [20:57] yeah, I've packaged several things with it [20:57] "I'm not drunk, I'm just drinking. I'm not stoned, I'm just thinkin'" [20:57] oh SomaFM boot liquor radio, how I love you [20:57] No python3 version [20:57] it makes things nice [20:58] brousch: who uses Python3 ? [20:58] Sheesh, what are you? Perl6? [20:58] right, sticking with distutils was getting me py3 [20:58] python3 is awesome [20:58] as is pypy [20:58] Only the awesome devs use Python3 [20:58] Distribute supports Python3 [20:59] modern-package-template does not [20:59] It uses paste and all that crap [21:00] it uses setuptools, at least the version I still have instaelled. [21:01] "modern-package-template is a PasteScript template to create an initial layout for your Python projects" [21:02] last release apr 2010 [21:02] brousch: If only rick_h_ were here to set you straight. :) [21:03] ha [21:03] I asked him at his pyohio talk about python3 and modern-package-template and he told me to go fix it myself [21:03] brousch: And did you? [21:03] Noooooo [21:04] Even the pyramid guy ran away from python3 paste [21:04] time to go home [21:05] Same here. At least, time to go to the board meeting. [21:06] so bourgeois [21:06] excuse me while I get aboard my private jet to attend our board meeting [21:08] python3 then import setuptools and it works. now I"m more confused than ever. [21:08] I thought setuptools didn't come with py3 [21:08] *sigh* [21:37] jrwren: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/distutils-sig/2013-March/020126.html [21:37] yea paste was replaced [21:38] setuptools can be installed, not included ootb. [21:39] jrwren: but python packaging sucks for anything but basic stuff really [21:44] I think pastescript was replaced with whatever pcreate is [21:44] unfortunately most of the Paste world and unit tests didn't go hand in hand [21:57] jrwren: http://guide.python-distribute.org/ is also probably the most maintained doc these days [22:02] wow, caprisun is... crap [22:03] greg-g: lol [22:03] not had that since I was 10 or so [22:04] me neither, but it was in the break room fridge [22:04] and I needed something sugary, should've had just plain OJ [22:05] doh [22:05] yea, I remember it probably more fondly than I'd find it today [22:05] it says "no artificial colors, flavors, or preservatives" [22:05] where I come from, this kind of thing is called shit [22:05] http://hg.python.org/cpython/file/a389700fbc74/Lib/distutils/versionpredicate.py [22:05] just full of suck? [22:06] yep, can't see, the individual things don't have the ingredients [22:06] anyway, setuptools is in python3 on both mac and ubuntu, so I guess I'm ok with using it [22:07] jrwren: what's shit now? [22:07] jrwren: the version string checker stuff? [22:57] yes, the version string checker stuff [22:57] its pretty bad [23:00] hi [23:04] hi flipsidecreation how are you? [23:05] good. [23:08] I have been looking for a way in Ubuntu to intergrate keepass with firefox for password sync. I have tried KeeFox and loading keep pass using mono but it did not work all that well. Any open source alternatives?