[00:00] <nerder> monitors.xml?
[00:00] <sporkeee> agarwood, You want the #debian channel.
[00:00] <oday> how can i unhide folders in my home folder? ubuntu 12.10
[00:00] <Dr_Willis> nerder:  try renameing that file.   mv monitors.xml monitors.xml.old
[00:00] <Dr_Willis> oday:  in what app?  nautils has a menu setting to show them, or alt-h (or was it ctrl-h)
[00:01] <agarwood> #debian nobody talking...
[00:01] <nerder> Dr_Willis, ok, and after that i have to change my resolution, and cross my finger LOL
[00:01] <Oran_> hello guys, can some tell me how much space i will need for ubuntu to work and programm with it
[00:01] <oday> ty
[00:01] <Dr_Willis> agarwood:  its still the place for debian support  agarwood
[00:01] <delinquentme> sudo dmidecode -t memory   <<< does this work ?
[00:01] <delinquentme> I mean I run it ...  and I get output .. but I dont believe the output.
[00:01] <sporkeee> agarwood, Load what ever drive when using the disc that makes ubuntu work is this a broadcom card?
[00:01] <Oran_> i going to install it on my notebook and iam not sure how much i need to give him
[00:01] <sporkeee> driver*
[00:01] <Dr_Willis> Oran_:  most minimal setup i would say about 10gb.
[00:02] <delinquentme> its telling me I've got 4 slots for memory on my laptop ... b ut im pretty sure I've only got two
[00:02] <nerder> Dr_Willis, i saw that compiz open, i should kill that process?
[00:02] <Dr_Willis> Oran_:  id say about 30gb for a useable system
[00:02] <jimi_> i am getting compile errors when trying to install thin.gem
[00:02] <Oran_> and whats some kind of "maximum" when i dont want to store files liek videos and musik on it
[00:02] <Dr_Willis> nerder:  after removeing that file. the user should be using the system defaults when they login next time
[00:02] <nerder> ok i'll try
[00:02] <Oran_> i have ssd with 256 for ubuntu and winodws
[00:03] <Oran_> so i have enough space but iam not sure how to split it well, cause i need win for some gaming sessons i cant use just ubuntu
[00:03] <sporkeee> Oran_, Use the size needed.
[00:04] <Oran_> thats the point i never needed to split my hdd for dual boot , so i never had to made the choice
[00:04] <Dr_Willis> Oran_:  if you are going to be doing just simple programing. you could just run lubuntu in a virtual box session.
[00:04] <Oran_> nah, i really want to use ubuntu more and more
[00:04] <sporkeee> Oran_, ubuntu installed stock in one partition is less than 5 gigs plus a swap partition.
[00:05] <sporkeee> thats a minimal amount
[00:05] <Oran_> i mean guys, how much space do u use for ubutnu + programms for office use + eclipse + some framworks
[00:05] <oday> Dr_Willis, i just installed conky and i launch in terminal, but i can't see anything on the screen. Can it be because i use gnome desktop?
[00:05] <Oran_> i can give more than 30 with no problem
[00:06] <Oran_> i just wonder if i shall go for 50 or 100 gb
[00:06] <Dr_Willis> oday:  conky  works with gnome-desktop
[00:06] <Oran_> btw i will have secoudn hdd for big files for both systems
[00:06] <nerder> Dr_Willis, Amazing ;)
[00:06] <oday> Dr_Willis, so what can be the problem?
[00:06] <sporkeee> the shell is mutter though
[00:07] <Dr_Willis> oday:  no idea. its worked for me when i ran it from a terminal under unity or gnome, or are you auto-starting it?
[00:07] <Oran_> does some got expirience about using programms for windowfs and ubuntu  on an 2 place?
[00:09] <oday> Dr_Willis, just runing in terminal conky
[00:09] <Dr_Willis> there should be a conky panel showing on the desktop if you minimize all  the windows.
[00:10] <oday> Dr_Willis, nothing.
[00:11] <Dr_Willis> oday:  tried with the default conky setup>? no error messages?  does ps ax | grep conky show conky running?
[00:11] <agarwood> sporkeee it is same like this one : http://img.diytrade.com/cdimg/1728156/24816191/0/1330333894/Best_Price_HSDPA_USB_Modem_3G_Dongle_with_Voice_Function.jpg
[00:11] <harris> is the a free pdf for python for kids
[00:12] <Dr_Willis> harris:  since its not really ubuntu specific.. we dont know. :) you have hit up your fave search engine and looked?
[00:12] <Wug> so I don't suppose anyone has an idea about why this video will play with flash but not HTML5? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ReAjMhCeu0
[00:12] <harris> ok
[00:12] <oday> Dr_Willis, 23742 pts/2    Sl     0:02 conky 23802 pts/1    Sl+    0:00 conky   i guess that means yes
[00:12] <Dr_Willis> Wug:  not all youtube videos support HTML5
[00:13] <sporkeee> agarwood, We can't really help with debian here.
[00:13] <SonikkuAmerica> agarwood: /j #debian
[00:13] <Dr_Willis> oday:  kill it with 'killall conky' and try with the default conky config perhaps
[00:13] <oday> Dr_Willis, what do u mean by default config?
[00:13] <Dr_Willis> oday:  if you have no .conkyrc file. then conky uses the default
[00:14] <agarwood> ok no problem I understand, thank you !!
[00:15] <oday> Dr_Willis, now it works. but how do i change the settings now?
[00:15] <Dr_Willis> oday:  make a conky config that does what you want
[00:15] <DarkAceLaptop> Dr_Willis, turns out I'm going to need x for this
[00:15] <Dr_Willis> conky has 10000's of pages/sites/examples of configs
[00:15] <DarkAceLaptop> is there a way to do this?
[00:15] <Dr_Willis> DarkAceLaptop:  to do what?
[00:16] <DarkAceLaptop> Dr_Willis, run a program as another user from the current user
[00:17] <Dr_Willis> su username   --command whatever
[00:17] <Dr_Willis> i thought worked for me.
[00:18] <oday> Dr_Willis, kk, i'll make one.. should i save it as .conkyrc in the homefolder?
[00:18] <Dr_Willis> oday:  conky can be told to look anywhere.
[00:18] <Dr_Willis> see the conky homepage/docs/faq for details and examples
[00:18] <DarkAceLaptop> it says --command isn't an option
[00:18] <DarkAceLaptop> oh wait
[00:18] <DarkAceLaptop> lol
[00:19] <oday> Dr_Willis,  i got it working already, ty.
[00:19] <DarkAceLaptop> yeah, I dunno, it's saying stuff like 'You forgot to call g_type_init()'
[00:20] <DarkAceLaptop> (process:16185): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: /build/buildd/glib2.0-2.34.1/./gobject/gtype.c:2720: You forgot to call g_type_init()
[00:20] <Dr_Willis> what app are you trying to run?
[00:20] <DarkAceLaptop> hexchat
[00:20] <DarkAceLaptop> I'm using it right now
[00:20] <DarkAceLaptop> it uses a panel icon, if that's relevant
[00:21] <DarkAceLaptop> notification icon, rather
[00:21] <Dr_Willis> for a gui app you may need to use gksu, or sux,
[00:30] <Dr_Willis> javier:  you DID try the nvidia drivers in the repos first?
[00:30] <[0_1UNDRtheBOTS> javier: try: sudo sh file.run
[00:30] <knas> Hello good people. Just installet edubuntu. Cant seem to get the sound going though.  First time linux user. No idea how to search for problems or possible solutions
[00:30] <nerderrr> javier, i think just ./file.run
[00:30] <[0_1UNDRtheBOTS> that works too
[00:30] <nerderrr> Anybody know how can i leave the SideBar?
[00:30] <Dr_Willis> javier:  it has to be ran from the console also.. and not under X
[00:31] <javier> also, i am displaying on a samsung flat screen and have been trying to use the nvidia-settings --assign CurrentMetaMode ="DFP-1: 1920x1080 {ViewPortOut=1850x1055+40+25}" in oreder to get the toolbars and borders to show correctly
[00:31] <javier> I am currently running 12.10 as well
[00:32] <DaSpawn> Is this a good place to ask a question regarding LVM and mirroring?
[00:32] <willows> knas: did you try googling something like "edubuntu sound not working"?
[00:33] <h00k> willows: we try to refrain from telling people to google in here, it's not always quite helpful
[00:33] <h00k> !google
[00:33] <javier> that command is also not sticking for reason.
[00:34] <willows> h00k: ok
[00:35] <kexibq> hey guys, I have a problem with input/output error(5) during installation, and I have no more blank discs, or USB sticks. any ideas as to what I can do?
[00:35] <Random832> kexibq: do you know whether it's an error on your hard drive or the installation media?
[00:36] <xmlnewbi_> anyone in here work with the raspberry pi? with zbar  qr codes?
[00:36] <Dr_Willis> xmlnewbi_:  theres the #raspberrypi channel
[00:38] <giiker> having trouble with my audio, I can hear music when listening to pandora from my terminal, but I can when trying to make a google voice chat?
[00:38] <giiker> having trouble with my audio, I can hear music when listening to pandora from my terminal, but I can't when trying to make a google voice chat?
[00:39] <kexibq> Random832: I think it is the installation media
[00:39] <Random832> well usb sticks cost like ten dollars
[00:39] <kexibq> is there any way that, now I am booted into a live environment, that I can download/install the installation files needed that way?
[00:39] <Dr_Willis> !netinstall
[00:50] <Ca103> Hello
[00:50] <Dr_Willis> hi
[00:51] <Ca103> Wow I thought that this channel would be filled :(
[00:51] <Dr_Willis> been having netsplits all night
[00:51] <Dr_Willis> i think we got split off from the main body.
[00:51] <Ca103> 0h
[00:51] <Dr_Willis> but still theres 1000+ people here
[00:52] <Ca103> Lol I am still learning my irc client :)
[00:53] <Dr_Willis> enjoy your trip? ;)
[00:53] <scx> hello
[00:54] <scx> can anyone ping browsershots.org?
[00:54] <Pentium44> this is what the ubuntu site should look like
[00:54] <Dr_Willis> works here scx
[00:54] <Pentium44> http://mrtux.org/noobuntu/
[00:54] <scx> Dr_Willis: could you show me result of?: nslookup browsershots.org
[00:55] <Dr_Willis> Name:browsershots.org
[00:55] <Dr_Willis> Address: 63.143.46.66
[00:55] <dfx> hello guys
[00:55] <scx> Dr_Willis: ok, thanks
[00:56] <dfx>  can someone tell me why icant ssh into my machine   using my 3g in phone while i can do when im connected to same  wifi network as my machine
[00:57] <ronnie> hello?
[00:57] <Dr_Willis> hello
[00:57] <ronnie> anyone know anything about rooting android?
[00:58] <Dr_Willis>  totally depends on your android device ronnie .. see #android channel
[00:59] <ronnie> ive got 2 lg optimus s running 2.3.3 and a lg viper  running 4.0.4
[00:59] <Kye> dfx: does the phrase "port forwarding" mean anything to you?
[00:59] <dfx> ronnie go see xda developpers or androidcentral
[01:00] <ronnie> ive checked both and nothings working
[01:00] <dfx> Kye: well ido see it in the connectbot app but ido click it nethin happaned
[01:00] <Kye> connectbot? is that an ssh client or something.
[01:00] <Dr_Willis> its a ssh client for android.
[01:00] <dfx> Kye an android one
[01:00] <Dr_Willis> theres many alternative ssh clients for android
[01:01] <Dr_Willis> You do need to enable port forwarding on the router to forward the ssh port to the right pc
[01:01] <GeekDude> I have 2 hard drives. Drive 1 has windows on it, Drive 2 has whoknowshwat on it. I want to install ubunt onto drive2. I'm using a LiveUSB. I was told to disconnect Drive1 while formatting Drive2, then when done installing, reconnect Drive1 and add it to the /boot/grub/device.map and run update-grub
[01:01] <ronnie> ive tryed on rootingt on both windows and linux
[01:01] <Pentium44> http://mrtux.org/noobuntu/
[01:01] <Pentium44> looky ^
[01:01] <Kye> do you know how to get into your modem/router settings dfx? you'll find port forwarding settings in there
[01:02] <Dr_Willis> Pentium44:  please dont spam stuff like that.
[01:02] <Pentium44> yes sur Dr_Willis
[01:02] <dfx> kye yes i do
[01:02] <chaotix> hi
[01:02] <Kye> you'll want to forward tcp port 22 to whichever  ip address your machine is using on your network
[01:03] <Kye> ugh it's like someone just learned that html files are editable and wanted to make fun of Ubuntu
[01:03] <GeekDude> Does anyone have instructions or advice on how to put ubuntu onto a second internal drive, without corrupting the first internal drive (that has windows on it)
[01:04] <Kye> the installer should handle that for you GeekDude, but if you want to be sure, just physically unplug the drive before you install it
[01:04] <Dr_Willis> GeekDude:  tell the installer to put grub on the 2nd hd.. and it shopuld touch the first hd.. or just unplug the first hd. ;) install.. plug it back in
[01:04] <GeekDude> Kye, That's what I've done. I had to shift the second drive to the first drive slot because it wouldn't detect it, though
[01:05] <chaotix> i would like to add somethings like "open with gedit" to the right click menu in nautilus...  as i am not adept in scripting and programming languages, in fedora i would use a program called Beesu to manage my nautilus scripts...  it does not exist for ubuntu and the nautilus scripts manager does not come preloaded with any scripts, i guess you have to write them yourself...  for now, i just need a script for "open in Gedit", can som
[01:05] <chaotix> eone help me out with that??
[01:05] <GeekDude> I also have no idea how to properly format a drive. I've deleted all the current partitions, and now I've heard I need to add a "swap" partition before making the main partitions (which should be ext4)
[01:05] <Kye> that's odd
[01:06] <Kye> @ not detecting the drive
[01:06] <Dr_Willis> chaotix:  you just need the right script in your nautilus scripts directory. if beesu wrote one on redhat. you copyd copy the script over to a ubuntu box
[01:06] <Kye> GeekDude: again, the installer should handle creating the proper partitions
[01:06] <chaotix> Dr_Willis, i cant find that beesu one though...   :(  thats what i am looking for
[01:07] <sybrek> hi .. short question: how can run a sh-file from dash ? i created a .desktop-file, but when i click the app in the dash nothing happens
[01:07] <GeekDude> Kye, The drive just has junk on it, should I select "Replace XP with Ubuntu"?
[01:07] <Kye> if the drive doesn't have anything valuable, it can't hurt
[01:07] <Kye> i thought you said it didnt have any partitions
[01:07] <GeekDude> I was trying to remove them in the custom installation
[01:08] <GeekDude> "something else"
[01:08] <Kye> not sure, don't use Ubuntu desktop.
[01:08] <Kye> but if you're sure it's not the other drive
[01:08] <ronnie> im bored imma dual boot android
[01:08] <Kye> it cannot hurt choosing that option, it's not going to ruin your drive or anything.
[01:08] <GeekDude> The main drive is unplugged
[01:12] <JFogerty> hey i done a fresh install of ubuntu 12.10 and when it loads compiz crashes. It's an install onto a dell dimension 2400 if that matters
[01:14] <SkinnyV> Anybody care to help me? I am setting up my first dedicated server and never really worked much with linux. I managed to install almost everything I needed but I can't for the life of me have a process autu-start with the system
[01:14] <cyrano_> I just started having this issue. X seems to crash right after logging in to Ubuntu. Just after the lightdm login it goes black and goes back to the login screen. I'm not sure how to troubleshoot this now. Any suggestions?
[01:14] <Dr_Willis> what process SkinnyV ?
[01:15] <Dr_Willis> cyrano_:  the system used to work? the guest account works? Tried making a new user see if they work?
[01:15] <SkinnyV> Deluge, a torrent client
[01:16] <Dr_Willis> an X Gui app?
[01:16] <SkinnyV> it is working if I manually start it trought SSH but nothing I tried make it auto start
[01:16] <Dr_Willis> run it from rc.local into a screen session. as a user.. would be one way SkinnyV
[01:17] <SkinnyV> i added a script to the rc.local but it doesnt work
[01:17] <lufi> what do you call that thing that used to separate terminal windows? like dividers
[01:17] <Dr_Willis> then you are doing somting wrong.  SkinnyV  ;)
[01:17] <SkinnyV> of course I am lol
[01:17] <Dr_Willis> what is the line in rc.local starting the script?
[01:17] <cyrano_> Dr_Willis: yes the system used to work up until last night. I have tried removing the Xorg.conf as the system always worked fine without one and was trying to get a triple monitor setup going prior to that. Then I made a new xorg file using nvidia-xconfig and nothing changed still crashes back to login. I haven't tried the guest or another user yet.
[01:18] <Arrick> IdleOne, you around tonight?
[01:18] <Dr_Willis> cyrano_:  common issue is the users .Xauthority file gets owned by root. Try removeing/renameing it..
[01:18] <SkinnyV> let me try to refind what I did DrWilis
[01:20] <SkinnyV> thats the first line of the script I was trying for rc.local
[01:20] <SkinnyV> if [ -x /usr/bin/deluged ] && [ -x /usr/bin/deluge-web ]; then
[01:20] <ZrZeRenato> why my skype icon doest show on system tray??
[01:20] <cyrano_> Dr_Willis: that could be it, thanks! I'll try that out
[01:20] <ZrZeRenato> how can i edit system tray icons?
[01:21] <Dr_Willis> ZrZeRenato:  what ubuntu release?
[01:21] <ZrZeRenato> 12.04
[01:22] <Dr_Willis> http://www.tautvidas.com/blog/2012/05/enable-skype-icon-on-unity-panel-on-ubuntu-12-dot-04-lts/
[01:22] <ZrZeRenato> Dr_Willis: Ubuntu 12.04 x86_64
[01:23] <SkinnyV> I also followed this official guide withotu result; http://www.torrent-invites.com/seedbox-tutorials/83542-howto-deluge-daemon-webui-installation-debian-ubuntu-server.html
[01:23] <SkinnyV> sorry i ment http://dev.deluge-torrent.org/wiki/UserGuide/InitScript/Ubuntu%2011.04%2B%20(Upstart%20Job)
[01:25] <spaceneedle> Usb Bug: Usb stick won't mount. Log says: bus:1, device 7 was not an mtp device.
[01:27] <knas> test
[01:27] <Dr_Willis> !test
[01:28] <spaceneedle> In fact, I have been having a problem with my Kingston usb stick too.
[01:29] <SkinnyV> Should I try to use the auto-start script from this http://dev.deluge-torrent.org/wiki/UserGuide/InitScript/Ubuntu or the one with upstarst here http://dev.deluge-torrent.org/wiki/UserGuide/InitScript/Ubuntu%2011.04%2B%20%28Upstart%20Job%29 ?
[01:30] <jay> im using ubuntu on a laptop and on boot sometimes keyboard and mouse do not respond, i have to force shutdown like 2 or 3 times until they respond, any way to fix?
[01:33] <SkinnyV> Anybody can help me? My head is going to explode if I continu trying by myself. Just want to auto-start a process on ubuntu 12.04
[01:33] <jay> add to startup SkinnyV?
[01:34] <Dr_Willis> when in doubt do it with a simple su command from rc.local
[01:34] <Dr_Willis> su username --command=whatever
[01:34] <SkinnyV> I am trying to have deluge auto start
[01:34] <SkinnyV> i tried this:
[01:34] <SkinnyV> if [ -x /usr/bin/deluged ] && [ -x /usr/bin/deluge-web ]; then
[01:34] <SkinnyV>    su -c deluged USER_NAME_HERE
[01:34] <SkinnyV>    su -c "screen -fa -d -S USER_NAME_HERE -m deluge-web" USER_NAME_HERE
[01:34] <SkinnyV> fi
[01:34] <FloodBot1> SkinnyV: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:35] <Dr_Willis> just do it without all the if stuff.. see iff it works
[01:35] <sporkeee> SkinnyV, I think it will start with it in the autostart app
[01:36] <SkinnyV> so i just add the 2 su line to rc.local?à
[01:36] <Dr_Willis> err. yes..
[01:36] <Dr_Willis> you dont even know if the command sare getting ran
[01:36] <Dr_Willis> you did check the paths to make sure there IS a /usr/bin/whatever?
[01:36] <Dr_Willis> they could be in some other location
[01:37] <SkinnyV> ill double check
[01:37] <jay> am i able to fix my laptop mouse and keyboard like that? they dont respond at all until i force shutdown and reboot like 2 or 3 times
[01:37] <Arrick> anyone here care to help out with getting outbound emails on a ubuntu server fixed? I cant seem to get the server to send with postfix, msmtp, sendmail, nor with nullmailler and mutt
[01:40] <mroe> when I log into the shell, it sometimes tell me "***System Restart Required***"  Is there a way to tell why it wants to restart?
[01:40] <Dr_Willis> mroe:  package updates (kernel update) is about the only reason i know of
[01:41] <mroe> Dr_Willis: I agree, but I want to see a list and not just assume
[01:43] <SkinnyV> just adding the 2 SU line to rc.local doesnt seem to work...
[01:43] <Dr_Willis> do they work from a console?
[01:46] <SkinnyV> yes
[01:48] <SkinnyV> sorry, it doesnt work from the prompt either, what work doesnt have username in it
[01:49] <Dr_Willis> what command works exactly?
[01:49] <SkinnyV> this is what work manually
[01:49] <SkinnyV> $ deluged
[01:49] <SkinnyV> $ screen -fa -d -S deluge-web -m deluge-web
[01:49] <usr13> SkinnyV: You are adding a line to rc.local that starts with su -c
[01:49] <usr13> SkinnyV: What is  "su -c" for?
[01:49] <SkinnyV> yes usr13
[01:50] <jay> is there a fix for my laptop mouse and keyboard not repsonding until i force reboot like 2 or 3 times?
[01:50] <betrayd> thats like a sudo
[01:50] <SkinnyV> I supposed it was to execute the command as root, but I am taking the script from a tutorial,
[01:50] <Dr_Willis> you want it to run as root? or as a user?
[01:50] <Dr_Willis> su  runs it as the user you tell it to
[01:51] <Dr_Willis> Usage: su [options] [LOGIN]
[01:51] <usr13> SkinnyV: Do you not know that rc.local is run as root anyway?  su -c is not necessary
[01:51] <BlackWeb> How would I create permanent Iptables, So that when the system is rebooted then they remain intact, Is a script the only way?
[01:51] <Dr_Willis> su would switch the thing to be ran as a user. if he wants it ran as user.
[01:51] <usr13> SkinnyV: And as Dr_Willis points out, it would require a password.
[01:51] <Dr_Willis> err.. it hasent in the past for me usr13
[01:52] <usr13> Dr_Willis: If he wants it run as user, rc.local is not the place for it.
[01:52] <Dr_Willis> su -c deluged USER_NAME_HERE
[01:52] <Dr_Willis> he wants it to run at bootup.  without logging in first.
[01:52] <Dr_Willis> BUT if he is using encrypted homes.. that could be an issue
[01:52] <dfx1> Dr_Willis: icant set up my router well i tho but still does not work any idea
[01:52] <SkinnyV> im not quite sure, I never really used linux, got everything working except the auto-start
[01:52] <usr13> Dr_Willis: But he just said it was to run it as root.  (I asked him what the su -c was for.)
[01:53] <Dr_Willis> I dont think he knows what he wants.. but the example code he pasted runs it as a user.
[01:53] <Dr_Willis> from the tutorial he was following
[01:53] <SkinnyV> well, I have it working when i manually start it from SSH and trying to have it do the same thing automaticly once the system reboot
[01:53] <BlackWeb> would a script be the only way to keep iptables intact on reboot of the system?
[01:54] <usr13> SkinnyV: "su -c deluged USER_NAME_HERE"  Is that really what  you have in the script?
[01:54] <BlackWeb> Where would I place the command to execute the custom script for the Iptables
[01:54] <SkinnyV> yes thats what i tried
[01:54] <Dr_Willis> SkinnyV:  you DID use the actual users name?
[01:54] <SkinnyV> yeah hehe
[01:55] <usr13> SkinnyV: Do you really have a user named USER_NAME_HERE ?
[01:55] <SkinnyV> no i replace it with my own user name:)
[01:55] <usr13> SkinnyV: Oh, ok.  Sorry.
[01:55] <SkinnyV> it would have been funny tough
[01:55] <betrayd> he's decrypting it for us
[01:55]  * Mavrik makes a note to change his username to USER_NAME_HERE on all systems.
[01:57] <SkinnyV> can i have just ''deluged'' as a line in the rc.local and have it execute that command on boot?
[01:57] <Dr_Willis> it will run as your root user if you do that SkinnyV
[01:57] <Dr_Willis> thats the whole point of the su -c part
[01:58] <SkinnyV> i suppose it is a security risk?
[01:58] <Dr_Willis> a torrent server running as root.. would not be a great idea
[01:58] <Dr_Willis> expecally if its got a web front end
[01:58] <SkinnyV> i see
[01:59] <usr13> SkinnyV: What tutoral are you using?
[01:59] <SkinnyV> I tried 3
[01:59] <SkinnyV> the official one: http://dev.deluge-torrent.org/wiki/UserGuide/InitScript/Ubuntu%2011.04%2B%20%28Upstart%20Job%29
[01:59] <SkinnyV> its hte last one i tried
[02:00] <SkinnyV> this one looked less complicated though: http://www.torrent-invites.com/seedbox-tutorials/83542-howto-deluge-daemon-webui-installation-debian-ubuntu-server.html
[02:01] <usr13> SkinnyV: Are you sure it's not starting anyway?
[02:01] <SkinnyV> yes otherwise I would be able to access teh webui
[02:01] <SkinnyV> I can only access the webui once I type the command manually
[02:02] <CarlosDeJackal> hello world
[02:03] <SierraAR> I need to burn an ubuntu iso onto a disc as a boot disc, so that it can be run off a server to install ubuntu server 12.04. It's apparent that the instructions on the ubuntu website arent working properly because the server doesn't seem to even detect that disc isthere, but it'll detect a windows install disc
[02:06] <Dr_Willis> what files are on the disk? not one big .iso file is it?
[02:06] <Dr_Willis> what tool did you use to burn the iso?
[02:07] <SierraAR> I followed the instructions given here for windows 7: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/burn-a-dvd-on-windows
[02:08] <SierraAR> And its a bunch of files/folders, not the .iso file in the disc
[02:12] <Dr_Willis> you woldent belive the # of times ive seen people just drag/drop the iso to a cd.. and end up with a single .iso fle on the disk and wonder why it dont work. ;)
[02:13] <midnightmagic> Hello. I'm op over in #bitcoin*. I understand you guys over here are experiencing the joys of cholby-stalking also, and I was wondering if any of the ops here know anything about this person that might be helpful in staving off the increasingly determined harassment he's meting out?
[02:14] <jay> cholby stalking?
[02:14] <Dr_Willis> Perhaps better to ask in #ubuntu-ops
[02:14] <Dr_Willis> and in #freenode
[02:14] <jay> hows things going over there midnightmagic? you a bitcoin dev?
[02:15] <midnightmagic> jay: No; just an op who probably just should've kept his head down instead of volunteering to op.
[02:16] <midnightmagic> jay: Other than that, I'm liking the notion that opping someone instantly imbues them with responsibility to help moderate. :) It's like magic.
[02:16] <midnightmagic> jay: Lots of deputizing lately with the growth of the channel.
[02:17] <midnightmagic> jay: Yeah. http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/07/30/%23ubuntu.html then search for cholby.
[02:18] <midnightmagic> Dr_Willis: Thank you.
[02:19] <harris> good night
[02:20] <spaceship> spaceship
[02:21] <spaceship> you know i love my spaceship
[02:24] <SkinnyV> man, this is crazy, I have been trying and trying for like 4 hour straight and cant do something as simple as auto-start something
[02:26] <Dr_Willis> and most likely due to some typo/path/mistake. ;)
[02:26] <SkinnyV> wait a minute, what do they mean by changing the execution bytes when you edit rc.local?
[02:26] <Dr_Willis> rc.local should be executable bu default.
[02:27] <Dr_Willis> $ ls -l /etc/rc.local
[02:27] <Dr_Willis> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 600 Nov 24 11:50 /etc/rc.local
[02:27] <SkinnyV> this is so exhausting, I don't get it
[02:28] <Dr_Willis>  su username   -c 'command to run'
[02:28] <Dr_Willis> from rc.local should work
[02:28] <Dr_Willis> or you could do it from a crontab
[02:28] <BlackWeb> Does scp do data transfers on port 22 also?
[02:28] <Dr_Willis> http://serverfault.com/questions/422950/execute-script-from-rc-local-as-user-instead-of-root
[02:29] <Dr_Willis> specific mention of delugd here --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1456982
[02:31] <SkinnyV> something like that?
[02:31] <SkinnyV> su MYUSERNAME   -c 'deluged'
[02:31] <SkinnyV> su MYUSERNAME   -c 'screen -fa -d -S MYUSERNAME -m deluge-web MYUSERNAME'
[02:31] <nogal> hey -- i'm having some issues reinstalling steam through the software center after a system reinstall  --- getting this output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5594435/ -- any ideas?
[02:31] <yofun> hello i get W: Not using locking for read only lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[02:31] <Dr_Willis> you most likely want a  & at the end of each line...
[02:32] <Dr_Willis> not sure why some examples of su ussage for this use an extra dash...
[02:32] <Dr_Willis> su - username -c "vncserver"
[02:32] <Dr_Willis> su - username -c "command" &
[02:32] <SkinnyV> let me test
[02:32] <Dr_Willis> the & might or might not be needed
[02:32] <yofun> does anyone know why my system is read only?
[02:33] <Dr_Willis> yofun:  you booted normally or in rescue mode?
[02:33] <yofun> normaly
[02:33] <Dr_Willis> if a hd/filesystem issue is detected - the system might remount the filesystem as read only
[02:34] <Dr_Willis> check the output of dmesg, to see if it mentions any hd/fs errors and remounting
[02:34] <yofun> well how do i find the isssue?
[02:34] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[02:35] <SkinnyV> still not auto starting...
[02:35] <yofun> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5594445/
[02:35] <Dr_Willis> id make a script that does the starting SkinnyV  and logs what its doing.  deluged might have some logging features also..
[02:35] <Dr_Willis> then have rc.local run the script
[02:35] <Dr_Willis> once you verify the script works
[02:36] <yofun> oh and i just updated my system if that says anything
[02:36] <yofun> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5594445/
[02:36] <Dr_Willis> end_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector 436990504
[02:36] <Dr_Willis> end_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector 501760
[02:36] <Ari-Yang> hmm.. what options here should be enabled and disabled to get rid of video tearing? gyazo.com/07b65f43569b482278338aaad3a8903e
[02:36] <Ari-Yang> any suggestions?
[02:36] <Dr_Willis> not a good sign yofun
[02:36] <yofun> and that means?
[02:36] <yofun> oh
[02:37] <Dr_Willis> its having Input/Output errors
[02:37] <yofun> oh...
[02:37] <yofun> well i just updated my system
[02:37] <yofun> the update cilent
[02:37] <Dr_Willis> dosent matter... its having issues with the actual hard drive
[02:37] <yofun> ooooh
[02:37] <yofun> meeeh
[02:37] <yofun> anything i can run for it try to fix it?
[02:37] <Dr_Willis>  EXT4-fs error (device dm-0): ext4_find_entry:1209: inode #10092922:
[02:38] <Dr_Willis> id boot a live cd and fsck the filesystem.. and be backing up anything imporntant very soon
[02:38] <yofun> oh :(
[02:38] <Dr_Willis> dmesg | grep error
[02:38] <Dr_Willis> might show a LOT of errors...
[02:39] <Dr_Willis> just your short paste showed 3 sectors with very differnt sector #'s
[02:39] <yofun> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5594450/
[02:39] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[02:40] <ShapeShifter499> I know this isn't the right channel, but no one is answering me in #ubuntu+1 anyways... I'm noticing some packages stuck at their quantal version although in their package settings shows a raring version, how do I make sure these packages update to their raring version?
[02:43] <yoojin> What is the best way to upload a screen shot relevant to a question? My second question is, what may cause the ubuntu software center categories list to display garbled font? (On the left-hand side of the window.)
[02:44] <nogal> hey -- i'm having some issues reinstalling steam through the software center after a system reinstall  --- getting this output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5594435/ -- any ideas?
[02:44] <sporkeee> !imagebin | nogal
[02:44] <sporkeee> yoojin, tha was for you sorry nogal
[02:44] <yoojin> @ubottu lol, imagebin.org? OHHH okay.
[02:44] <nogal> ?? I don't need a screenshot.
[02:45] <nogal> oh alright
[02:45] <sporkeee> nogal, The post above you did
[02:45] <nogal> anyway, any ideas on the software center thing? Is there a way i can get steam vea comandline, should I just grab a .deb or is there a way to fix the software center?
[02:46] <felon> hi
[02:46] <yoojin> http://imagebin.org/255003
[02:47] <yoojin> @nogal As far as I know, Steam from the Ubuntu Software Center works just fine.
[02:47] <nogal> yoojin: if it were I wouldn't be asking ;)
[02:47] <yoojin> @nogal Actually, it installs a downloader which brings Steam up to date with the current version. That's why it downloads so quickly at first. What's it doing?
[02:48] <Dr_Willis> nogal:  i just get the steam .deb file and use gdebi to install it last time
[02:48] <nogal> yoojin: this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5594435/
[02:48] <Dr_Willis> steam is very very weird in how it works. ;)
[02:48] <yofun> n00bish:  http://www.webupd8.org/2012/12/steam-for-linux-now-available-to-all.html
[02:48] <yofun> nogal: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/12/steam-for-linux-now-available-to-all.html
[02:48] <Dr_Willis> i guess you can say it installs a 'steam installer' that the user then runs and installs the actual steam binary
[02:48] <yofun> tab fail
[02:49] <Dr_Willis> which is differnt then how it works on windows
[02:50] <nogal> Dr_Willis: that's odd, but i guess it's what works, do you know where an up-to-date .deb is hosted?
[02:50] <yofun> nogal:  read http://www.webupd8.org/2012/12/steam-for-linux-now-available-to-all.html
[02:50] <Dr_Willis> nogal:  i just googled for steam ubuntu deb  and got it from their homepage or follow the urls
[02:51] <nogal> ah at the steam store page, thanks
[02:52] <yoojin> nogal maybe you should try logging out and in to the Ubuntu Software Center again? Also, how are you getting your messages to show up directly to me in red? xD I'm new.
[02:52]  * Dr_Willis dosent see them in red for yoojin
[02:53] <yofun> me either
[02:53] <Dr_Willis> ;P
[02:53] <nogal> yoojin: I don't know how your color scheme is setup nor what client you're using, but i assume you're being highlighted because i'm tagging your nickname. and I did try the logout-login of the software center, as well as a hard boot of the laptop
[02:53] <Dr_Willis> irc clients can colorize things.. not the people sending the test
[02:53] <Dr_Willis> text
[02:53] <yofun> hes useing xchat
[02:54] <yoojin> nogal: Well, try deleting the associated key files? And a system update if it's not too much trouble to ensure everything is up to date.
[02:56] <n-iCe> is there a way to share internet, but not as ad-hoc?
[02:56] <nogal> yoojin: i installed it via the .deb, i'm ok now :P
[02:57] <yoojin> nogal: Good to hear! KCSlions ....
[03:01] <JC_SoCal> where do i put bash scripts i want to run on every boot (i'm putting a couple nic's in promisc)
[03:04] <theDUBBER> hi
[03:05] <theDUBBER> see my project www.thedubber.altervista.org
[03:06] <SkinnyV> ok I'n down to only one thing not loading from the rc.local
[03:06] <SkinnyV> Deluged now see mto start but not the webui
[03:06] <SkinnyV> I can have it work if i manualy type screen -fa -d -m -S deluge-web deluge-web
[03:07] <cfhowlett> #ubuntu channel mods: a humble suggestion; ubuntukylin (for the China market) will be released with 13.04.   Anticipating many support requests, might a suggestion be added to the !cn factoid directing suggesting the #ubuntukylin channel?
[03:08] <frappe051> hello, anyone here have a bit of knowledge on forcedeth and mcp61 ethernet controllers not working?:<
[03:09] <Dr_Willis> SkinnyV:  try  making both start from a script. starting with a #!/bin/bash line, then the 2 commands.  then run that script from rc.local with the su -c  method. It could be some default path, or settings are not being sdet
[03:11] <Dr_Willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/261899/run-a-screen-session-on-boot-from-rc-local
[03:13] <SkinnyV> when i try to run the script there is a point where i get /etc/rc.local: line 15: Exit: command not found
[03:13] <Dr_Willis> whats on line 15?
[03:14] <SkinnyV> Exit 0
[03:14] <Dr_Willis> err.. its 'exit 0'  not 'Exit 0
[03:14] <SkinnyV> it was written like that the first time I openned the script to edit
[03:14] <SkinnyV> so no capital E?
[03:15] <Dr_Willis> definatly 'exit 0' on every ubuntu install ive ever seen
[03:15] <Dr_Willis> # Make sure that the script will "exit 0" on success or any other......   in the comments at the top
[03:15] <SkinnyV> ill change it
[03:15] <SkinnyV> i dont remember putting a capital tough
[03:16] <Dr_Willis> and of course that exit 0  - is the last line in rc.local
[03:18] <RappaDrake> Hello?
[03:18] <Dr_Willis> jello
[03:19] <n-iCe> llo
[03:19] <RappaDrake> Hey all, installed Win8 recently (Win7 actually broke several programs) and was wondering if dual-booting Ubuntu was still an easy option.
[03:21] <RappaDrake> @Dr_Willis: Know anything?
[03:21] <Dr_Willis> i dont use windows 8 ;)
[03:21] <RappaDrake> Dr_Willis: Well, in my defense, I got it for free :D
[03:22] <Dr_Willis> ive heaerd its possible. but  i dont have it, dont use it.. dont plan on getting it any time soon..
[03:23] <Dr_Willis> guess he really dident want an answer
[03:26] <SkinnyV> lol he just wanted to let you know he got it for free
[03:26] <SkinnyV> well, It's finaly working somewhat
[03:27] <SkinnyV> that capital E probably made it harder to know which script was right or wrong
[03:28] <SkinnyV> im not sure if its really though
[03:28] <SkinnyV> The best that worked is this
[03:28] <SkinnyV> su USERNAME   -c 'deluged'&
[03:28] <SkinnyV> screen -fa -d -m -S deluge-web deluge-web&
[03:28] <SkinnyV> exit 0
[03:29] <Dr_Willis> you need to use  the su user name  with the screen command also.. unless you want screen running as root..
[03:29] <Dr_Willis> and theres a space   befor the &
[03:29] <SkinnyV> I cant get it to work with su
[03:30] <Dr_Willis> you need to qote the whole arument to su like the examples showed
[03:30] <Dr_Willis> su username -c 'screen  x x x x x x' &
[03:30] <SkinnyV> i did try that
[03:31] <SkinnyV> the web ui would start
[03:31] <SkinnyV> wouldnt
[03:31] <frappe051> HI.. Possible to troubleshoot?  I have an nforce mobo, mcp61.  I see in lshw that I have a *-bridge ethernet interface using forcedeth 0.64 and i see a "link=no" line which might be a hint…  I have no internet connection and I get a "disconnected" message in network manager applet.. cannot seem to get it to work.
[03:32] <uangbesar> hey does anyone know of a blackberry manager for linux?
[03:32] <RappaDrake> Hey all, upgraded to Win8; can I still dual-boot Ubuntu?
[03:32] <yoojin> http://imagebin.org/255003 Anybody seen this before?
[03:32] <cfhowlett> uangbesar, blackberry?  really?  sure you wouldn't rather trade that in for, say, nexus 4?  WHOLE lot easier to ubuntu with ...
[03:33] <RappaDrake> @Frappe051: I would guess that there are some driver incompatibilities.
[03:33] <cfhowlett> !dual|RappaDrake, possibly but not without some work
[03:33] <cfhowlett> !dualboot|RappaDrake, possibly but not without some work
[03:34] <RappaDrake> cfhowlett: Thanks!
[03:34] <uangbesar> cfhowlett: i have a galaxy but the bb is important for business
[03:34] <frappe051> Driver incompatibilities would be what i'm looking towards.  Need to know if anyone has messed with networking issues enough so I can ask for help troubleshooting
[03:35] <RappaDrake> Frappe051: Have you hit the forums yet? There should be something similar there.
[03:36] <frappe051> I have searched a bit for mcp61 with some people saying they've gotten it to work but nothing I have tried worked yet
[03:37] <RappaDrake> Damn closed-source software engineers and such, making things difficult.
[03:37] <uangbesar> hey does anyone know of a blackberry manager for linux?
[03:37] <Dr_Willis> tried searching the repos yet uangbesar ?
[03:37] <RappaDrake> uangbesar: I'd check the repos, yeah.
[03:38] <uangbesar> yeah they just have things to back up. but nothing to acaully manage
[03:38] <cfhowlett> uangbesar, http://www.progweb.com/modules/blackberry/index-en.html
[03:38] <Dr_Willis> im not sure really what you would 'manage'
[03:38] <RappaDrake> I would recommend just hooking up to a Windows machine to do that if you can.
[03:38] <uangbesar> install remove apps
[03:39] <cfhowlett> uangbesar, urge you to only use native BB tools for that
[03:39] <RappaDrake> uangbesar: That isn't built-in functionality? Dude, upgrade to Android.
[03:39]  * Dr_Willis uses airdroid on android. :)
[03:39] <uangbesar> i use a galax as well
[03:39] <RappaDrake> And also, I would make sure that you're not breaking anything with non-BB software.
[03:40]  * cfhowlett ... waiting for next check to get the nexus 4 ... or wait for the nexus 5?
[03:40] <sporkeee> uangbesar, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/04/linberry-blackberry-phone-manager-for-linux
[03:40]  * RappaDrake is buying a Chromebook. Any recommendations? :D
[03:40] <cfhowlett> uangbesar, given BB's rapidly declining market share, I doubt that much more effort or support will be devoted to developing much of anything for it .. including linux.  consider your options
[03:41] <uangbesar> cant install the repo
[03:41] <uangbesar> im an expat in indonesia. thats rims biggest market and it continues to grow here
[03:41] <RappaDrake> uangbesar: I think that you'll have to upgrade soon; like cfhowlett said, the market is getting slimmer and slimmer.
[03:42] <uangbesar> i have a galaxy. i only use it for bbm
[03:43] <RappaDrake> Have you looked at sporkeee's link up above?
[03:44] <sporkeee> I found a english link with a google search using linberry
[03:45] <RappaDrake> Does anyone know anything about the Chromebook? ChromeOS is GNU/Linux, right?
[03:45] <histo> RappaDrake: No
[03:46] <histo> RappaDrake: well kind of but a lot of differences. Not really ubuntu related
[03:46] <cfhowlett> RappaDrake, best to ask in google/chrome
[03:46] <zoos_> Greetings fellow r/ubuntuers, I need help after upgrading to 13.04
[03:47] <cfhowlett> !raring|zoos_,
[03:47] <zoos_> I'm on a laptop, I can't reduce the volume with fn+Fnumber anymore
[03:47] <ddsss> installed xubuntu 12.10 on uefi box. installation went good - but after reboot I get "Reboot and select proper boot device"
[03:47] <uangbesar> nope cant download 404 not found
[03:47] <ddsss> ^wht is the problem?
[03:48] <cfhowlett> uangbesar, some would say "consider that a sign"  :)
[03:49] <zoos_> Before upgrading, I could also disable my WiFi radio with fn+F12, but can't anymore in 13.04
[03:49] <uangbesar> i know back at home bb would be irrlevent but here it is actually important
[03:49] <cfhowlett> zoos_, ask in #ubuntu+1 for beta support
[03:49] <zoos_> Roger
[03:49] <ddsss> is there uubntu 13.04 final available yeat?
[03:50] <histo> ddsss: did it install in uefi mode or legacy?
[03:50] <cfhowlett> uangbesar, understood.  Doesn't make it any more likely to find a linux manager however.  are there not windows tools?
[03:50] <ddsss> histo: it didn't ask me that...
[03:50] <histo> ddsss: I should say did it boot in efi mode or legacy mode
[03:50] <histo> !uefi | ddsss
[03:50] <cfhowlett> ddsss, ask in #ubuntu+1  as it's not been released ye
[03:50] <uangbesar> i feel ya. just trying to not use winblows
[03:51] <histo> uangbesar: you maybe able to use wine or a windows vm worst case
[03:51] <cfhowlett> uangbesar, wine + BB windows manager is a possible workaround
[03:52] <ronnie> hello?
[03:52] <cfhowlett> ronnie, greetings
[03:52] <histo> cfhowlett: don't know if wine gives access to usb devices though.
[03:52] <ronnie> whats up
[03:53] <cfhowlett> histo, thus the "perhaps/mabye" disclaimer
[03:53] <cfhowlett> ronnie, this is ubuntu support.  Have you a technical issue?
[03:54] <ronnie> no what would be a good server just for chatting?
[03:54] <cfhowlett> #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:55] <ronnie> ok thx
[03:55] <SkinnyV> god, it is still not auto-booting, it's been hours
[04:01] <ronnie> is their a way to get itunes to work properlyon linux yet? if their is i will delete windows completly
[04:02] <Dr_Willis> better to delete itunes completly....
[04:02] <ddsss> histo. efi mode,trying boot repair as suggwested - but it seems to ahve stuck there....
[04:02] <ronnie> na i gotta have my itunes
[04:03] <histo> SkinnyV: Did you see this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/261899/run-a-screen-session-on-boot-from-rc-local
[04:03] <histo> ddsss: What iso are you using?
[04:03] <jaynext> Hi
[04:03] <cfhowlett> jayne, greetings
[04:03] <histo> ronnie: Not that i'm aware of. Have you seen rhythmbox with or the music store?
[04:04] <ronnie> i have but only itunes alows me to mess with my apps
[04:04] <histo> ronnie: Ahh I dont use apple devices
[04:04] <ddsss> histo: xubunu 12.10
[04:05] <histo> ddsss: 64bit?
[04:05] <ronnie> youd think someone wouldve found away by now lol i mean as long as this stuff has been out
[04:05] <ddsss> histo: yes
[04:05] <histo> ronnie: There are already ways to manage your ipod with linux outside of itunes.  But not the app store etc...
[04:06] <SkinnyV> im giving you, I cant have the thing autostart. Is there a way to do this from the ubuntu gui?
[04:06] <SkinnyV> im giving up
[04:06] <ronnie> ya i know but i use the app store alot
[04:06] <histo> ddsss: On the page from ubottu about the uefi information it tells you how to determine if it's booting in efi mode or not based on the grub screen. If it's text based vs graphical....
[04:06] <histo> SkinnyV: What is it that you want to do?
[04:06] <Dr_Willis> SkinnyV:  you could make /etc/init/tty3.conf auto start it.. so you might see errors on tty3 ;)
[04:06] <histo> SkinnyV: You could have screen called in your bash_profile or whatever so it starts on login.
[04:06] <min|dvir|us> Hey. I can't for the life of me figure out what's going on.
[04:07] <SkinnyV> ive been trying for the past 5 hours to have Deluge (a torrent client) to auto-start
[04:07] <ddsss> histo: but it never gets to grub screen....
[04:07] <min|dvir|us> In JACK, I have system/capture_1 and _2 connected to system/playback_1 and _2 respectively and I can hear it.
[04:07] <Dr_Willis> id just ssh in and start the stuff as needed.
[04:07] <min|dvir|us> But plugging capture_1 and _2 into any input port does nothing.
[04:07] <histo> SkinnyV: oh..  Add deluge to your startup applications
[04:07] <min|dvir|us> It's complete silence.
[04:07] <cfhowlett> ronnie, apple stuff has ALWAYS been problematic with any OS other than Apple by design.  Direct requests for linux support to Apple ... and expect to be ignored.  OR consider linux friendly devices and free yourself
[04:07] <ddsss> histo: I get "Reboot and select proper boot device"
[04:07] <min|dvir|us> Anyone good with JACK?
[04:07] <SkinnyV> I can have it all work if i enter the command manually by ssh to start deluge and the web ui but cant auto start it
[04:07] <histo> ddsss: Rigth you have to tell your system to boot from the installation media
[04:08] <cfhowlett> min|dvir|us, ask in #ubuntustudio
[04:08] <SkinnyV> start up application?
[04:08] <min|dvir|us> I'm not on Ubuntu Studio.
[04:08] <histo> SkinnyV: is this a cli based system?
[04:08] <SkinnyV> to be honest, i am not sure, it is my first dedicated server and never used anything but windows before so im lost
[04:09] <ronnie> sorry ilove my ipod but i got android phone even though im not a fan of android
[04:09] <histo> SkinnyV: Does it have a Graphical interface or is it an actual server install?
[04:09] <SkinnyV> i can remote desktop to the gui using 22go, but have been installing stuff by ssh
[04:09] <Dr_Willis> SkinnyV:  id just ssh in and start the things when you need..  how often are you rebooting this anyway?
[04:09] <SkinnyV> x2go
[04:10] <Dr_Willis> SkinnyV:  this is a vps? or a machine you own?
[04:10] <SkinnyV> its a dedicated server, not a vps as far as i know
[04:10] <histo> SkinnyV: The other option is rtorrent has a daemon that you can run and monitor a directory for torrent files. It's all cli based. Or you'd have to consult the deluge docs to figure out your issue
[04:10] <Dr_Willis> 'dedicated server' means?
[04:10] <kyleczar8> i am new to ubuntu and need help accessing my files that are saved in windows 7
[04:10] <ronnie> anyone know when the ubuntu for android thing will be out?
[04:10] <SkinnyV> its a computer in a rack somwhere in france
[04:11] <cfhowlett> kyleczar8, ubuntu is installed?
[04:11] <histo> kyleczar8: If you installed a dualboot setup you can just go in nautilus and click on your windblows drive.
[04:11] <ddsss> histo: yes. i've pressed F12 and seelcted usb drive. I the installed xubuntu just fine. But after reboot- when usb drive is out - I still get "Reboot and select proper boot device". It doesn't recognize my hdd as valid bootable device or something....
[04:11] <Grungeman> I already search on google but I've been unable to find a solution to my issue... I have a compaq cq50 ... my internal microphone is not working.. I went to alsa settings and I turned everything all the way up.. still no go
[04:11] <Grungeman> hi all
[04:11] <SkinnyV> its basicly a computer that I can use for whatever i want but is not near me
[04:12] <histo> SkinnyV: deluge also has a daemon deluged
[04:12] <cfhowlett> Grungeman, greetings
[04:12] <Grungeman> hi cfhowlett
[04:12] <histo> !info deluged | SkinnyV
[04:12] <SkinnyV> thats what im trying to load histo
[04:12] <histo> SkinnyV: http://www.havetheknowhow.com/Install-the-software/Install-Deluge-Headless.html
[04:13] <SkinnyV> the thing is, i get it to work if I ssh in the system and manually type deluged, and then screen -fa -d -m -S deluge-web deluge-web
[04:13] <histo> SkinnyV: that's if when you install deluged it doesn't come with start stop scripts on it's own.
[04:13] <kyleczar8> i am new to ubuntu and need help accessing my files that are saved in windows 7
[04:13] <histo> SkinnyV: you should be able to sudo update-rc.d deluged defaults
[04:13] <Renzatic> hey, I'm having a slight problem with GIMP, and could use some advice on figuring out exactly why it isn't working
[04:13] <histo> SkinnyV: assuming it comes with them.
[04:13] <SkinnyV> i isntalled everything, jsut cant have it auto-start with the system
[04:13] <ronnie> i want pizza
[04:13] <kyleczar8> i have it dual installed next to windows 7
[04:13] <histo> kyleczar8: Then open nautilus or the file browser and you should see your windows drive.
[04:13] <Grungeman> cfhowlett, do you know how to fix it?
[04:13] <cfhowlett> kyleczar8, so boot ubuntu, open the file manger and see your windows ....
[04:14] <SrPx> Is there a command to move all files in a folder to another folder, filtering by type ? (only directories)
[04:14] <cfhowlett> Grungeman, restate your problem ...
[04:14] <min|dvir|us> SrPx: man find
[04:14] <histo> SrPx: you only want to move directories and not files?
[04:14] <Grungeman> cfhowlett,  I have a compaq presario cq50 101la. the problem is that the internal microphone is not working... I already went to alsa settings and turned everything all the way up... still no go
[04:14] <SrPx> histo:
[04:15] <SrPx> histo: yes
[04:15] <histo> SrPx: find . -type d -exec mv {} +
[04:15] <histo> SrPx: I'd do a dry run first
[04:15] <SkinnyV> i seem to be able to get deluged to start with rc.local, but the web ui command doesnt seem to load from there
[04:15] <Grungeman> I have ubuntu 12.04 cfhowlett
[04:15] <histo> SrPx: hodl up you need the destination
[04:15] <SrPx> min|dvir|us: but what does find have to do with moving?
[04:15] <SrPx> oh
[04:15] <SrPx> nevermind
[04:15] <cfhowlett> Grungeman, got it.  lemme think
[04:15] <ronnie> is it good if im19 still in high school and already diveing into linux and can use it fairly well?
[04:15] <Renzatic> what it's doing is hanging when I fire it up. It'll sit around, consuming 99% of one CPU, and do absolutely nothing for the longest time. Then, sometimes an hour later if I happen to forget about it,it'll open right up
[04:15] <kyleczar8> sorry i am new, what is nautilus
[04:15] <SrPx> histo: :)
[04:15] <histo> SrPx: because it finds the directories and then executes the move command
[04:15] <cfhowlett> !ot|ronnie,
[04:15] <ronnie> and is my prefferdos
[04:15] <Renzatic> though usually I kill it from the terminal
[04:15] <cfhowlett> kyleczar8, file manager
[04:15] <histo> SrPx: find -type d -exec mv {} /to/whereever +
[04:16] <histo> damn typos
[04:16] <kyleczar8> i go to my home folder in ubuntu and cant find my windows files anywhere
[04:16] <Grungeman> kyleczar8,  go to /media/
[04:16] <histo> kyleczar8: in the left frame of the file browser window
[04:16] <johnjohn1011> how do i now if i have the latest patched to the 3.5 kernel for precise
[04:16] <kyleczar8> do i download it in the ubuntu software manger
[04:16] <SrPx> histo: thanks, but explain the {} /to/whereever + ?
[04:16] <cfhowlett> kyleczar8, home is your ubuntu /home ... go to /computer
[04:16] <cfhowlett> kyleczar8, no it's already installed.
[04:17] <betrayd> SrPx replace the last part of that
[04:17] <histo> SrPx: {} gets replaced with the results of the find
[04:17] <betrayd> with the destination
[04:18] <kyleczar8> when i do a search for /computer i get nothing
[04:18] <kyleczar8> same when i search for nautilus
[04:18] <rckrd> anyone here familar with the plex media server?
[04:19] <histo> SrPx: You need to backup first be carefull movign files
[04:19] <histo> !anyone | rckrd
[04:19] <SrPx> histo: how
[04:19] <cfhowlett> kyleczar8, look for file manager.  that's nautilus
[04:20] <Dr_Willis> rckrd:  plex works. from what ive played with it.
[04:20] <histo> kyleczar8: Please open a terminal and type in mount and hit enter also type in lsblk and hit enter. Then pastebin the results
[04:20] <histo> SrPx: with cp
[04:21] <rckrd> Ok, well currently I have a server running on port 32400.  But i'd like to run it on normal http 80, so my URL doesnt have to be rckrd.com:32400/web/index
[04:21] <histo> SrPx: rsync -a /some/directory /to/some/destination   would be a sufficient backup of the files. Before you go messing around moving things and deleting stuff.
[04:22] <histo> rckrd: Are you hosting any other web pages on this box?
[04:22] <SrPx> histo: hm okay! thanks
[04:22] <rckrd> From the web interface, it looks like i changed the server to port 80 and the url to /music, but even after restarting it doesnt seem to work.  The server isnt using a router.
[04:22] <cfhowlett> rckrd, possibly a good question for #ubuntu-server
[04:22] <rckrd> histo: yeah, i have an apache web server
[04:22] <Grungeman> can I ask again?
[04:22] <histo> rckrd: Yes I understand that... Are you hosting any other pages
[04:23] <kyleczar8> by pastebin the results, do you mean paste the results in this window or ??
[04:23] <ddsss> if one installs Ubuntu 13.04 beta  how would one the  upgrade to a final?
[04:23] <rckrd> histo: no
[04:23] <cfhowlett> Grungeman, yeah, repeat at 10  minute intervals
[04:23] <histo> rckrd: Pastebin your apache config
[04:23] <cfhowlett> !raring|ddss
[04:23] <Grungeman> I have a compaq cq50 laptop..  the internal microphone is not working..  I already went to the Alsa Settings... but still no go.. still not working.
[04:23] <Grungeman> how can I fix it?
[04:24] <betrayd> !pastebin | kyleczar8
[04:24] <thomedy> i have vim open and in vi i cant remember how to save i know it was w --- f i think
[04:24] <thomedy>  i cant remember
[04:24] <thomedy> it has been a while since i have ran such a raw text editor
[04:24] <dodo3773> rckrd: I don't think running on port 80 will work / makes any sense. Does it work if you use 8080 or 443 etc..?
[04:24] <histo> rckrd: and your /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/*
[04:25] <rhinux> Hey!  hi folks! my clock seems to be buggy. it decreases two hours back, I'm in timezone berline, UTC+1, +1 summertime, using kubuntu 12.10.x, installed but deactivated ntp , when I set time to correct time manually, it sets back the time again in about 30min. any idea?
[04:25] <betrayd> thomedy: :wq
[04:25] <histo> thomedy: :w
[04:25] <thomedy> i did that and it seems to jsut type the :wq int he editor i remember that you have to escape modes but im hitting escape and it doesnt' seem to be doing anything
[04:26] <histo> thomedy: if you forgot sudo you can :w !sudo tee %
[04:26] <dodo3773> histo: rckrd is talking about "plex server". I don't think it's a server OS. Unless I missed that
[04:26] <histo> thomedy: Oh press escape first to get in command mode the :2
[04:26] <histo> thomedy: :w sorry typo with the 2
[04:27] <histo> dodo3773: Yeah plex server hosts a web page controlled by apache. It's currently listening on port xxxx and he wants it to be his default site.
[04:27] <Renzatic> Okay, so I'm having Linux GIMP problems. Mainly that it takes three years short of forever to launch, and consumes 99% of one CPUs cycles until it does
[04:27] <Renzatic> and I need to know why it's doing that. Sometimes if I forget to kill it from the terminal, it'll just pop up an hour or so later like nothing was wrong
[04:27] <Renzatic> ...and it's weirding me out
[04:27] <cfhowlett> Renzatic, are you running unity?
[04:27] <kyleczar8> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5594610/
[04:27] <Renzatic> nope, Gnome3
[04:28] <Renzatic> 3.6 on Ubuntu 12.10 to be specific
[04:28] <dodo3773> histo: Oh. Is apache a hard dep of plexmediaserver or something?
[04:28] <sporkeee> Renzatic, gimp 2.8
[04:28] <cfhowlett> Renzatic, install xfce4 or lxde.  boot into that and run gimp.  lighter load on the gpu/cpu might fix
[04:28] <thomedy> okay i actually do have vi.. wtf... okay heres the context... i can do it just like i remember when i test vi  name and the :wq
[04:28] <histo> kyleczar8: check in /media/owner/SYSTEM  are you windows files there?  Also your lsblk output got cut off on that paste
[04:28] <thomedy> but im trying to teach myself git repos right now
[04:28] <dodo3773> histo: I still think for some reason we are talking about 2 completely different things.
[04:28] <Renzatic> yup. I've tried the rev from the software center, and another one I grabbed off a not too suspicious looking PPA
[04:28] <thomedy> and it openes into something that mustnot be vi
[04:28] <Renzatic> both do the same thing
[04:29] <thomedy> and in that i cant seem to get the normal :vi
[04:29] <Renzatic> I tried it a few minutes ago, and it fired right up. Then I closed it to see if it'd do it again, and same problem
[04:29] <histo> dodo3773: He's talking about web hosting part of plex
[04:29] <min|dvir|us> thomedy: git will use either the editor set in you gitconfig or $EDITOR.
[04:29] <Renzatic> it'll show it's loading at the top left, then just...nothing
[04:29] <histo> dodo3773: afaik
[04:29] <min|dvir|us> *your
[04:30] <histo> thomedy: which vi   will show you and make sure it's not a symlink
[04:30] <dodo3773> histo: Do you mean "flex"?
[04:30] <thomedy> im trying to figure out wher ethe editer var is in the settings
[04:30] <thomedy> so i can switch it to vi
[04:30] <histo> dodo3773: no
[04:30] <thomedy> but like i said im new to git
[04:30] <Dr_Willis> Renzatic:  run it from terminal yet and see if any messages give a clue?
[04:30] <min|dvir|us> thomedy: have you tried Googling exactly that?
[04:31] <rckrd> histo: apache2.conf http://paste.ubuntu.com/5594614/
[04:31] <thomedy> no ijust found out what the problem was
[04:31] <thomedy> i thought i had vi
[04:31] <Renzatic> I'll try it again. Usually it just gives me a blinking cursor and nothing else. One sec
[04:31] <thomedy> i googled that
[04:31] <dodo3773> histo: Okay. Nevermind.
[04:31] <thomedy> but im on it
[04:31] <rckrd> histo: sites enabled http://paste.ubuntu.com/5594615/
[04:31] <histo> rckrd: please paste the output of ls /etc/apache2/sites-available/*  and ls /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/*
[04:31] <rckrd> oh i only have 000-default for sites enabled
[04:31] <kyleczar8> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5594616/
[04:32] <rckrd> and default and default-ssl for sites-available
[04:32] <kyleczar8> i cant find a /media anywhere to begin with..
[04:32] <cfhowlett> kyleczar8, loop?  did you use the windows installer?
[04:32] <Renzatic> okay, well that's weird
[04:32] <Renzatic> it's now working without a single hitch
[04:32] <histo> kyleczar8: check /host   what files are there?
[04:32] <bitcrusher> man rename is that a perl thing?
[04:32] <histo> rckrd: wth is plex using for a web server then
[04:33] <min|dvir|us> bitcrusher: `mv`
[04:33] <Renzatic> now that I'm thinking about it, would a theme conflict cause it to hang?
[04:33] <cfhowlett> histo, /dev/loop suggest wubi to me ... or am I misinformed?
[04:33] <dodo3773> Renzatic: It definitely could.
[04:33] <Dr_Willis> Renzatic:  ive herd of some weird thingsd happening with some themes
[04:33] <sporkeee> kyleczar8, Did you install ubuntu from windows?
[04:33] <histo> cfhowlett: ahh could be
[04:33] <kyleczar8> sporkeee, yes i did..
[04:34] <bitcrusher> min|dvir|us: hmm it says provided by:perl_5.8.7
[04:34] <dodo3773> Dr_Willis: ditto. gtk3 can be a nightmare
[04:34] <histo> kyleczar8: is this a wubi install?
[04:34] <kyleczar8> yes
[04:34] <sporkeee> lol
[04:34] <Renzatic> I'm thinking that might be it. Whenever I switch it to the orange and grey theme, it'll always switch back to a mix between it and default whenever it decides to fire up again
[04:34] <kyleczar8> i used the Windows installer to do it on the website.
[04:34] <cfhowlett> kyleczar8, and there it is.  windows installer is aka wubi ... and has been discontinued for good reason
[04:34] <histo> kyleczar8: I don't believe you can access the files from windows in linux when you use wubi
[04:34] <Renzatic> this time I switched it back to default when I got into it, and it's working fine
[04:34] <kyleczar8> NOOOOOOOO
[04:34] <Renzatic> let me try it again just to make sure
[04:35] <histo> kyleczar8: No what? If you install ubuntu as a dualboot system you will be able to access your windows partition just fine.
[04:35] <kyleczar8> I was having difficulties installing from a cd so i thought it was easier :(
[04:35] <histo> kyleczar8: install from a thumb drive
[04:35] <cfhowlett> kyleczar8, consider a proper dual boot or install use virtualbox.  by design, windows is invisible to ubuntu under a wubi install ... so things don't get brokken
[04:35] <histo> !usb | kyleczar8
[04:35] <Renzatic> ha! guess that did it!
[04:35] <Grungeman> Hi all.. I already tried google without any luck... I have a compaq cq50 ... the internal mic is not working, I already went to alsa settings and turned everything up all the way... still no go
[04:36] <Renzatic> started it 3 times, and it hasn't given me a problem since I switched the theme to default
[04:36] <kyleczar8> Thanks guys, how should i go about removing the version of ubuntu i have now?
[04:36] <cfhowlett> kyleczar8, but if your issue is ONLY seeing some windows files, install ubuntuone or dropbox on both OS and keep your files there.
[04:36] <sporkeee> kyleczar8, I think you can, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide#How_do_I_access_the_Windows_drives.3F
[04:36] <Renzatic> welp, thanks for the help everyone! :D
[04:36] <cfhowlett> kyleczar8, just go into windows control delete ubuntu
[04:36] <rckrd> histo: so i tried to listen on 32400 in my ports.conf, but it said that there was an error because the port was already in use.  So plex might be working not with apache
[04:36] <Renzatic> til my next stupid question. o/
[04:36] <histo> kyleczar8: in control panel from windows you can remove it. There is also a migration guide but It's rather difficult if you haven't done too many modifications to your ubuntu it may not be worht migrating wubi to a dualboot. It's faster to just reinstall.
[04:37] <histo> rckrd: Right I'm assuming they have their own web server or something goofy going on. You'd have to ask the plex people I'm affraid.
[04:37] <sporkeee> kyleczar8, You can transfer that wubi to a partition if you like.
[04:38] <histo> rckrd: /j #plex
[04:38] <rckrd> ok thanks for the help
[04:38] <kyleczar8> thanks for the help, i am new to ubuntu but love it so far. I think I am going to uninstall and then redo it from a usb.. seems like the wubi was not worth it in the long run.
[04:38] <sporkeee> kyleczar8, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MigrateWubi
[04:38] <cfhowlett> kyleczar8, best of luck.  come back if you need help
[04:39] <histo> kyleczar8: No wubi has been discontinued as dualboot has matured enough to be safe and more reliable. Reinstall a true dualboot system or follow the migrate guide that sporkeee posted
[04:40] <thomedy> i got it... i rtfm'd and then figured it out
[04:40] <Grungeman> so.. ehrrmm hehe .... I have a compaq cq50 ... the internal mic is not working, I already went to alsa settings and turned everything up all the way... still no go
[04:40] <exeter> I recently installed Ubuntu on my desktop(HP pavilllion g6). I installed the Railink RT3290 and everything worked out, now everytime I turn on the wireless connection I get this kernel panic showing in the link below. Any idea on how to fix this issue?  https://www.dropbox.com/s/v2haom5bgmoyhvw/IMG_20130418_172908.jpg  Thanks,
[04:41] <Grungeman> how can I fix it?
[04:41] <histo> !sound | Grungeman
[04:41] <sporkeee> histo, Yes I know it has been discontinued, however you can access bthe OS from each other, and a migrate is a full install.
[04:41] <sporkeee> both*
[04:41] <Grungeman> histo, that's what I am saying.. I already checked the volume on the Icon.. checked that nothing is mute.. etc... also did it with alsa settings
[04:41] <histo> sporkeee: I know that as well.
[04:42] <misc--> hi there. If I push "shift-insert" then this pastes whatever's in the clipboard to the screen. Is it possible to set up multiple clipboards mapped to different keys? For example... shift-9 would paste from a different clipboard?
[04:42] <histo> Grungeman: there are further troubleshooting steps there just trying to help.
[04:42] <Grungeman> thank you histo
[04:43] <exeter> I recently installed Ubuntu on my desktop(HP ENVY d030). I installed the Railink RT3290 and everything worked out, now everytime I turn on the wireless connection I get this kernel panic showing in the link below. Any idea on how to fix this issue?  https://www.dropbox.com/s/v2haom5bgmoyhvw/IMG_20130418_172908.jpg  Thanks,  kernel
[04:44] <histo> exeter: What driver are you using?
[04:44] <RandomSort> Hi, any one got a good pointer as to how to compile a kernel module ( specifically cifs ) in ubuntu 12.10?
[04:44] <exeter> ralink rt3290
[04:44] <Dr_Willis> cifs support is allready in the default kernels i thought
[04:45] <histo> exeter: http://askubuntu.com/questions/233442/hp-4770s-ralink-3290-wireless-not-working-on-12-10
[04:45] <Grungeman> histo links are regarding different issues
[04:45] <histo> Grungeman: What links?
[04:45] <Grungeman> !sound | histo
[04:46] <RandomSort> Dr_Willis: it is, I need to fix apply a bug fix for resharing a cifs mount through samba :P
[04:46] <Grungeman> mine is not low volume ... it is not recognizing the mic at all
[04:46] <Grungeman> the internal mic
[04:46] <eruditehermit> hey, my  /var/lib/dpkg/available file is empty. How do I rebuild it?
[04:46] <exeter> this doent sove my problem
[04:47] <RandomSort> https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52791 this one specifically :)
[04:47] <histo> Grungeman: You need to read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting#Line_Input.2BAC8-Microphone_Troubleshooting  Perhaps you need to change the subdevice
[04:49] <everestt> I've set my .py to chmod +x ...and there's the #!/usr/bin/python line on top... but clicking on the file in nautilus opens it in gedit
[04:49] <everestt> ...instead of running it... what am I doing wring?
[04:49] <everestt> *wrong
[04:50] <histo> everestt: not typing python foobar.py
[04:51] <SkinnyV> anyway, thanks for the help guysà
[04:52] <everestt> histo, after making the .py executable you can run it using just $./foobar.py on the console... I'm talking about running it in Nautilus.
[04:52] <histo> everestt: http://docs.python.org/2/tutorial/interpreter.html section 2.2.2 if you want to do what you want
[04:52] <jordan__> wtf is wrong with the bot
[04:52] <histo> everestt: ahh
[04:52] <histo> !botsnack
[04:52] <histo> jordan__: nothing that I see
[04:52] <histo> everestt: Hold up let me try something
[04:55] <histo> everestt: try #!/usr/bin/env python
[04:55] <histo> everestt: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11848650/how-to-run-python-script-with-one-icon-click
[04:56] <everestt> histo, that env thing... not working.
[04:57] <everestt> histo, I know I've successfully run a python script from nautilus many months ago... I cannot seem to do that right now... And I know what's happening... let me try out the #! with other interpreters... wait
[04:59] <Iordanis> A generaly type of question: If you edit someone elses code are you allowed to distributed since it can be considered your code?
[05:00] <Iordanis> Thinking of it from the art work perspective
[05:00] <Dr_Willis> depends on how they licensed their code
[05:00] <RandomSort> Depends on the licene
[05:01] <everestt> histo, I can run a gambas code from Nautilus (has a #! /usr/bin/env gbr3 at the beginning, and is executable)... something to do with python mime-something??
[05:02] <SwedeMike> Iordanis: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creative_commons is probably a good start to read up on different licensing.
[05:02] <SwedeMike> Iordanis: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_license as well
[05:03] <Iordanis> SwedeMike I understand that different licenses allow you different rights over some source code
[05:04] <Iordanis> SwedeMike my question is if you modify a code completely, is it still under the original owners license?
[05:04] <Iordanis> In art works if you modify another picture it is considered yours
[05:05] <RandomSort> Iordanis: You're probably not going to get the answer you want, which is obviously" Yes you can do it"
[05:05] <Iordanis> That is why even on youtube, the copyright don't work over music covers
[05:05] <RandomSort> Use common sense, and the license provided by the original piece of software :)
[05:06] <SrPx> How do I copy all files of a folder to another? including directories?
[05:10] <bullitt> anyone ever remove an operating system that is dual-booted to replace it with another distro? (Dual Ubuntu/Win7)
[05:11] <sporkeee> bullitt, Many have, whats up?
[05:11] <cfhowlett> bullitt, of course.  easily done
[05:11] <SwedeMike> Iordanis: this is getting off topic for this channel, but a minor modification of a picture doesn't make it "your".
[05:12] <bullitt> sporkee: I actually have an easier time using slackware, but installed ubuntu to test it out.. Would I just delete the format/delete partition and start over with a slack boot?
[05:12] <Iordanis> SwedeMike, I am not talking about minor but you can't really define minor.
[05:13] <cfhowlett> bullitt, I would rather format than delete ...
[05:13] <Iordanis> SwedeMike reversing the video on a youtube video making it mirror like, can get you away from copyright holders
[05:14] <bullitt> Recommended to do it from windows ?
[05:14] <sporkeee> bullitt, I agree with the format of the partitition it save the #
[05:14] <sporkeee> saves*
[05:14] <cfhowlett> bullitt, boot your ISO, choose the partition, format and install
[05:15] <bullitt> cfhowlett: yes, thank you. Has been a while.
[05:19] <bitcrusher> can you do type -fd for files and directories?
[05:20] <bitcrusher> like find -name -type df instead of -type d for just directories
[05:23] <androidfr33k> Oh just so you know my question about moving my ubuntu install from my laptop to desktop booted fine no issues what so ever
[05:23] <cfhowlett> androidfr33k, congrats
[05:23] <betrayd> that can't be you must hang out in the problem-free channel
[05:24] <bray90820> do clover trail processors run linux
[05:24] <bray90820> Intel clover trail
[05:29] <c_>  my win7 dead how to run ghost in ubuntu
[05:29]  * cfhowlett ... ghost?
[05:30] <Guest42696> the windows backup software
[05:31] <aeon-ltd> usually if you have ghost it'll be on a restore partition
[05:31] <betrayd> yeah maybe you still ahve the restore partition
[05:31] <betrayd> have*
[05:33] <jakechapa_> oh god
[05:33] <jakechapa_> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[05:34] <jakechapa_> I tried to upgrade my dist
[05:34] <jakechapa_> and it broke halfway through? now I'm stuck with that when running apt-get -f install
[05:34] <cfhowlett> jakechapa_, best to download the iso and clean install then
[05:35] <tozen> jakechapa_: sudo dpkg -a configure ?
[05:36] <Guest42696> how to make a windowspe in pen drive in ubuntu
[05:36] <tozen> Guest42696: what?
[05:37] <Guest42696> i just want to Installation win7
[05:38] <ziggyfish> Guest42696, this isn't the channel for that
[05:38] <sporkeee> Guest42696, Do you have a install disc or ISO?
[05:38] <Guest42696> i have a pendrive
[05:39] <Guest42696> is there something like nt6 in ubuntu
[05:39] <cfhowlett> Guest42696, try ##windows for for installing windows
[05:39] <tozen> Guest42696: you want to create startup usb?
[05:39] <Guest42696> yes
[05:39] <tozen> Guest42696: unetbootin
[05:40] <ziggyfish> I am trying to run ubuntu-vm-builder to create a kvm ubuntu install
[05:40] <ziggyfish> The command I am using is: sudo ubuntu-vm-builder kvm quantal --mem 4096 --libvirt qemu:///system
[05:40] <Guest42696> a windows startup usb  not linux
[05:41] <cfhowlett> !ot|Guest42696,
[05:41] <jakechapa_> tozen: dpkg: error: need an action option
[05:42] <ziggyfish> but when I run that above command I get this error
[05:42] <ziggyfish> 2013-04-23 05:46:57,620 INFO    : E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[05:42] <sporkeee> Guest42696, A W7 ISO mounted with the archive manager can be extracted to a pendrive that is a ntfs with a boot flag and used
[05:42] <tozen> jakechapa_: pastebin both errors please (sudo apt-get -f install and sudo dpkg -a configure)
[05:43] <ziggyfish> http://pastebin.com/vHQKuFwY is the full error
[05:43] <ziggyfish> is there something I am missing?
[05:43] <tozen> ziggyfish: r u jakechapa_ was before?
[05:44] <ziggyfish> tozen, no
[05:44] <ziggyfish> I am ziggyfish
[05:44] <sporkeee> jakechapa_, Did you have any other repos in your sources.list or sources.list.d? if so that is probably the error remove them, and try the sudo apt-get -f install again
[05:45] <sporkeee> jakechapa_, 3rd party repos links like PPA's
[05:45] <jakechapa_> tozen: http://pastebin.com/FH3PRmmY
[05:46] <jakechapa_> sporkeee:: hmm I think I just added one.. I was trying to get svn 1.7
[05:46] <jakechapa_> I did this
[05:46] <jakechapa_> sudo apt-add-repository ppa:dominik-stadler/subversion-1.7
[05:46] <jakechapa_> how do I remove it?
[05:47] <jakechapa_> sporkeee: http://pastebin.com/vHQKuFwY is the full error
[05:47] <sporkeee> jakechapa_, The easiest way is to run gksudo nautilus and navigate to /etc/apt/sources.list.d and delete it.
[05:48] <jakechapa_> what is gksudo nautilus
[05:48] <jakechapa_> actually, all I have in there are two:
[05:48] <jakechapa_> bjori-php5-lucid.list
[05:48] <jakechapa_> bjori-php5-lucid.list.distUpgrade
[05:48] <ziggyfish> jakechapa_, thats my error
[05:49] <tozen> jakechapa_: sudo add-apt-repository --remove ppa:dominik-stadler/subversion-1.7
[05:49] <ziggyfish> ziggyfish> http://pastebin.com/vHQKuFwY is the full error
[05:50] <sporkeee> jakechapa_, gksudo nautilus get you into nautilus in root.
[05:51] <tozen> jakechapa_: gksudo is more correct way to how to use sudo in GIU programs
[05:51] <jakechapa_> lol, sorry. My error is: http://pastebin.com/FH3PRmmY
[05:52] <sporkeee> jakechapa_, Run it a window open click on file system in the left panel and navigate to /etc/apt/sources.list.d open it and remove any 3rd party links
[05:52] <jakechapa_> -bash: gksudo: command not found
[05:52] <jakechapa_> This is a webserver
[05:52] <jakechapa_> no gui
[05:52] <ziggyfish> jakechapa_, you know how to use nano?
[05:53] <ziggyfish> or vim?
[05:53] <tozen> ziggyfish: what the problem with nano?
[05:53] <sporkeee> jakechapa_, Ah, not sure the as far as getting to where it is you probably have to use nano which I'm not familiar with really.
[05:54] <ziggyfish> the command will be
[05:54] <tozen> jakechapa_: sudo nano
[05:54] <ziggyfish> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[05:54] <ziggyfish> actually use cd /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[05:55] <ziggyfish> type ls
[05:55] <ziggyfish> then rm <third party links>
[05:55] <jakechapa_> ziggyfish: yes I do
[05:55] <ziggyfish> jakechapa_, read previous messages
[05:56] <jakechapa_> I only have 2 distros: bjori-php5-lucid.list  bjori-php5-lucid.list.distUpgrade
[05:57] <ziggyfish> jakechapa_, sorry I come in late to this discussion
[05:57] <ziggyfish> jakechapa_, can you explain what the problem is to me?
[05:58] <jakechapa_> ziggyfish:
[05:58] <jakechapa_> http://pastebin.com/FH3PRmmY
[05:59] <jakechapa_> It happened when I tried to run: apt-get install -o APT::Immediate-Configure=false -f apt python-minimal
[05:59] <jakechapa_> then apt-get -f install
[06:00] <ziggyfish> do you use dovecott?
[06:00] <jakechapa_> then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:00] <bray90820> Can you run linux on the Intel clover trail processors
[06:00] <jakechapa_> ziggyfish.. hmmm no
[06:00] <jakechapa_> I don't
[06:00] <ziggyfish> ok use apt-get purge dovecot-core
[06:02] <mrogur> hi I just bought mac mini late 2012, is there any good guide to put ubuntu on mac?
[06:02] <ziggyfish> jakechapa_, sorry its apt-get --purge remove dovecot-core
[06:02] <cfhowlett> bray90820, 30 seconds of reading google top hits says "no" ...
[06:02] <jakechapa_> ziggyfish: http://pastebin.com/8V7aBapC
[06:03] <bray90820> but what about this
[06:03] <bray90820> http://www.zdnet.com/intels-new-clover-trail-chip-will-support-android-and-linux-7000004451/
[06:03] <bray90820> and this
[06:03] <bray90820> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[06:03] <cfhowlett> bray90820, saw it.  intel specifically stated that linux support will come "later" ...
[06:04] <bray90820> for the older chips?
[06:04] <bray90820> or just the new ones
[06:04] <cfhowlett> bray90820, clover is for windows 8 ... direct intel quote
[06:04] <bray90820> but you just said linux will come later
[06:05] <cfhowlett> bray90820, from your own source: n an e-mail from an Intel spokesperson, Intel said, "Intel has plans for another version of this platform directed at Linux/Android; however we are not commenting on the platform specifics or market segments at this time. Stay tuned.”
[06:05] <bray90820> so that means?
[06:06] <bray90820> will the current ones ever work
[06:06] <cfhowlett> bray90820, best you ask intel
[06:06] <bray90820> :P
[06:07] <jakechapa_> ziggyfish.. any dieas?
[06:09] <ziggyfish> jakechapa_, the problem is that there is an issue with some dependancies for a package that you have installed
[06:09] <clody> how can i run 32bit binary in 64bit ubuntu ?
[06:09] <cfhowlett> clody, should run with no problems
[06:10] <ziggyfish> so what you need to do is remove those with apt-get --purge -f remove <package>
[06:10] <clody> cfhowlett,  error while loading shared libraries: libgsl.so.0: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64
[06:11] <clody> cfhowlett, tried copying the libgsl.so.0 and the linker in the directory no use
[06:11] <hetal> How can I downgrade flash fp11 to fp10?
[06:12] <clody> installed  ia32-libs
[06:12] <jakechapa_> ziggyfish.. hmm is there a way to hone in on which package that is
[06:17] <Fuzzles> how come ubuntu doesnt show any graphics driver in additional driver anymore whenit used to its nly been resently when ive reinstalled
[06:18] <soee> hi, any idea what can be wrong if this info genrates apacje log:
[06:18] <soee> [Tue Apr 23 08:15:14 2013] [notice] caught SIGTERM, shutting down
[06:18] <soee> [Tue Apr 23 08:15:15 2013] [notice] Apache/2.2.22 (Ubuntu) PHP/5.4.9-4ubuntu2 configured -- resuming normal operations
[06:19] <MonkeyJacky> Is there any local gist without net?
[06:19] <clody> is there anyway force install libgtkhtml-2.0 when libgtkhtml-4.0 is the current one
[06:21] <wookienz> hiya, is there a pure-ftpd irc channel? pureftpd here is invite only.
[06:23] <Ari-Yang> hmm.. what options here should be enabled and disabled to get rid of video tearing? here's a screen shot: gyazo.com/07b65f43569b482278338aaad3a8903e any suggestions?
[06:26] <clody> how do I remove libgtkhtml-4.0 package from Ubuntu ?
[06:27] <histo> clody: apt-get remove packagename
[06:27] <histo> !alis > wookienz
[06:30] <wookienz> histo, thanks
[06:33] <histo> !find libgtkhtml-4.0
[06:33] <histo> clody: apt-get remove libgtkhtml-4.0*
[06:34] <clody> thanks histo
[06:35] <clody> histo, my 32 binary still doesnt run on this ubuntu 64 12.04 machine
[06:39] <Fuzzles> how come additional drivers dont show my grphics driver anymore only been since i reinstalled
[06:40] <nevyn> clody: did you install the i386 package?
[06:41] <rayj> how much less stable is 12.10 vs 12.04?
[06:41] <cfhowlett> rayj, hard to quantify ...
[06:42] <clody> nevyn, I did
[06:42] <clody> nevyn, shows error while loading shared libraries: libglade-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[06:42] <rayj> say for doing android development/desktop use/scipy
[06:43] <clody> nevyn, do I need to add something to the environmental path or something
[06:46] <Ins1er> Hello)
[06:46] <Ins1er> May be you can help me
[06:46] <Ins1er> What better kubuntu or xubuntu?
[06:46] <rayj> kubuntu
[06:47] <cfhowlett> !best|Ins1er,
[06:47] <rayj> if you want a 'full distro'
[06:47] <rayj> xubuntu if you want fast
[06:47] <Fuzzles> all ubuntu family are the same
[06:48] <Ins1er> AMD Turion 2 2.2GHz, 3GB, ATI HD4500GT and bad working hard disk
[06:48] <jakechapa_> rying to overwrite '/etc/init.d/dovecot', which is also in package dovecot-common 1:2.0.19-0ubuntu2
[06:48] <Ins1er> drive*
[06:48] <jakechapa_> RRRRGH
[06:48] <rayj> that is slow, so xubuntu
[06:48] <Ins1er> my hard drive want to die last 6 month)
[06:48] <histo> clody: huh?
[06:48] <Ins1er> months*
[06:48] <jakechapa_> that's killing my apt
[06:48] <histo> clody: What are you trying to run?
[06:48] <cfhowlett> Ins1er, x/l/ubuntu are ubuntu with a different desktop environment and packages.  you can install the lxde and xfce4 packages to plain vanilla ubuntu and try them out
[06:48] <jakechapa_> how can I get around it? I can't apt-get -f install
[06:49] <clody> histo, its a binary file that I created a while back
[06:49] <helmut_> hi
[06:49] <clody> how when I try to run it it says /home/yeti/Desktop/MS & MSE code/MSE/Latest 3/src/libglade-2.0.so.0
[06:49] <clody> /home/yeti/Desktop/MS & MSE code/MSE/Latest 3/src/libglade-2.0.so.0.0.7
[06:49] <clody> sorry
[06:49] <histo> clody: Binary file for what? Something you wrote?
[06:49] <clody> error while loading shared libraries: libglade-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[06:49] <clody> yes
[06:50] <rayj> btw I am running xubuntu + gedit + gnome terminal + nautilus....so not exactally lightweight
[06:50] <histo> jakechapa_: mv /etc/init.d/dovecot to /etc/init.d/dovecot.old  and try
[06:50] <histo> clody: fix you application then.
[06:52] <histo> clody: Not really sure what you question has to do with ubuntu support though.
[06:53] <Guest47156> who knows a good free partition recovery? "I have lost all of my hard disk partition!"
[06:53] <cfhowlett> !recovery|Guest47156,
[06:54] <cfhowlett> Guest47156, ummm, no not what you need.  sorry
[06:54] <histo> Guest47156: testdisk
[06:54] <Guest47156> should I use testdisk? does it recover?
[06:54] <histo> Guest47156: the testdisk package from a live cd/usb may do you wonders.
[06:55] <histo> Guest47156: yes it can sometime.
[06:56] <Guest47156> histo: Thanks
[06:56] <histo> Guest47156: if you are really worried about hte data I would image the drive to some other device and work from the image
[06:56] <Guest47156> ubottu: I have nothing on my hard disk
[06:56] <Guest47156> !
[06:57] <BigWig_> Ok, So I totally ruined my clock
[06:58] <BigWig_> I keep doing ntpdate and it's returning UTC time
[06:58] <histo> BigWig_: congrats
[07:08] <tessier_> Hello all! Anyone know why, in Ubuntu 12.04 I wouldn't have the "physical volume for RAID" option when doing the install? I can create a partition for various filesystems etc. but that option is missing from the menu.
[07:08] <Ins1er> ok, thanks!) will install xubuntu
[07:15] <chaos7theory> Would advice on suggestions constitue support here, or should it be asked on #ubuntu-discuss?
[07:16] <cfhowlett> chaos7theory, discuss ...
[07:16] <chaos7theory> Alright.
[07:16] <histo> chaos7theory: what kind of suggestions?
[07:17] <chaos7theory> It's more on a question of Wubi vs. native Ubuntu and what may be sugegsted overall.
[07:17] <sporkeee> moot point
[07:18] <chaos7theory> Even in performance?
[07:18] <Myrtti> chaos7theory: wubi isnt supported in the future
[07:18] <cfhowlett> chaos7theory, wubi has been given permission to die
[07:19] <Myrtti> in which future equals future releases, including this Thursday one
[07:19] <chaos7theory> Well in light of Ubuntu 13.04 and seeing how vastly better it's been since 12.10, I'm debating on dual-booting or not. It's a new laptop that came with Windows 8 OOB, but I only have so much HDD space as well @_@
[07:21] <Myrtti> thats the reason it's bring dropped, it doesn't work so well with w8
[07:22] <auronandace> Myrtti: and here i was hoping it was being dropped because they finally realised how much of a bad idea it was
[07:23] <Myrtti> auronandace: it works well in the function it is intended for
[07:23] <Myrtti> well, worked
[07:24] <auronandace> Myrtti: i found it was a support nightmare and people were using it as a long term solution (which wasn't what it was intended for, as you siad)
[07:24] <cfhowlett> Myrtti, if people only used it for its intended purpose ... "if"
[07:24] <Myrtti> indeed.
[07:25] <nevyn> claude2_: did you install libglade:i386?
[07:26] <auronandace> Myrtti: out of curiosity, how long left until the longest supported version of wubi is no longer supported here
[07:27] <nanda> hao
[07:27] <nanda> aaa
[07:27] <ham> ham
[07:27] <cfhowlett> auronandace, as the last supported wubi version shipped with 12.10 ...
[07:27] <nanda> hello
[07:27] <ham> hi
[07:27] <nanda> too
[07:27] <cfhowlett> nanda, greetings
[07:27] <auronandace> Myrtti: is it the same time frame as 5 years (12.04 lts)?
[07:27] <nanda> whatt']
[07:27] <nanda> go
[07:27] <cfhowlett> 12.10 has 18 months support
[07:28] <nanda> jda]
[07:28] <auronandace> cfhowlett: which is much shorter than 5 years
[07:28] <Myrtti> auronandace: possibly. although things might change and support for wubi might be yanked. never know.
[07:29] <auronandace> Myrtti: thanks for the info, the sooner its history the better
[07:29] <cfhowlett> auronandace, "wubi, come to and end, your time has.  And not short enough it was ..."
[07:33] <tessier_> ah-hah...need the alternate install cd to get software raid options
[07:33] <u13> лалки
[07:33] <u13> посоны
[07:33] <lotuspsychje> !ru | u13
[07:33] <u13> че
[07:35] <u13> эй нигеры
[07:35] <lotuspsychje> u13: english only here plz
[07:35] <u13> okay
[07:36] <histo> auronandace: What is your question?
[07:36] <auronandace> histo: its been answered thanks
[07:36] <u13> it is magic O.o
[07:37] <u13> what's happening here?
[07:37] <lotuspsychje> u13: this is an ubuntu support channel
[07:37] <u13> ohrenet
[07:37] <kula1922_> if u have any problem u can ask here
[07:37] <kula1922_> :)
[07:37] <u13> ok
[07:37] <smOBudda> Well it just so happens I have a problem
[07:38] <histo> !ask | sm0
[07:38] <histo> smOBudda: ^^^^^^^^
[07:38] <u13> i am on IT lesson :D
[07:38] <smOBudda> Quick question: If I had installed fusionPBX and before the install was able to access anything in my /var/www dir then there after no longer able to what would cause the issue? I had been able to access anything in the www/ dir but now even though im able to see the folder content of /var/www/content when i try to access it at www.mywebsite.com/content it tells me "The requested URL /JPhoto
[07:38] <smOBudda> was not found on this server." any help or direction you can provide would be great.
[07:38] <FloodBot1> smOBudda: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:38] <lotuspsychje> im looking for a way to read /var/log into groups/colours anyone know something to sort?
[07:39] <stevr1it> hello, avedemùux doe snot allow me to save a video in flash format, can yu help me?
[07:39] <stevr1it> avidemux
[07:41] <k610> ran an apt-get upgrade + dist-upgrade -> now my ubuntu server 12.04LTS will freeze in Grub or on logon like wtf
[07:41] <u13> я вас в рот ебалъ
[07:41] <histo> k610: try booting an older kernel
[07:41] <histo> u13: English only
[07:42] <u13> nein
[07:42] <k610> histo, thing is i'd like not to touch this machine no more and just ssh in it all day
[07:42] <chaos7theory> Now this IS a support question. Even even today's terms, there's no real means to uninstall Ubuntu from a dual-boot, correct? Or has GRUB changed since then?
[07:43] <u13> I am jerking off now, guys
[07:43] <auronandace> chaos7theory: you repartition and overwrite grub
[07:43] <histo> k610: okay well boot into a older kernel and ssh in.
[07:43] <lotuspsychje> u13:sort your pingpong
[07:43] <k610> how can i keep my ubuntu server updated and still be able to restart it without needing to access the physical machine
[07:43] <histo> !ops u13
[07:43] <chaos7theory> That doesn't damage the Windows' boot files?
[07:44] <histo> k610: well you don't dist-upgrade it. You install safe upgrades
[07:44] <starbuck> hi, why is apt-get update ignoring some repositories?
[07:44] <chaos7theory> I'm assuming a Windows/Ubuntu Dual-Boot
[07:44] <auronandace> chaos7theory: you can reinstall the windows bootloader if you have a windows install cd
[07:44] <histo> chaos7theory: nvm ignore that
[07:44] <k610> i see what commands should i run to keep updated then : apt-get update + apt-get upgrade ?
[07:45] <histo> k610: nvmthey got rid of safe-upgrade
[07:45] <chaos7theory> Unfortunately it's Windows OEM, so I suppose that means I may have to request a Windows CD from the manufacturer
[07:45] <u13> linux is shit
[07:46] <histo> !ops
[07:46] <jpds> Hmm.
[07:46] <histo> k610: upgrade would be safer as it doesn't remove packages
[07:47] <u13> where are you all from?
[07:47] <lotuspsychje> jpds: u13 here is playing pingpong
[07:48] <histo> k610: although neither should bust your system
[07:48] <histo> jpds: sorry forgot his nick in the trigger
[07:48] <k610> dist-upgrade is definitely busting things up
[07:49] <histo> Myrtti: He is just trolling
[07:50] <auronandace> k610: dist-upgrade can install kernels so perhaps thats what is causing the issue (especially if you installed drivers from outside the official repos)
[07:51] <k610> auronandace, no additional drivers just the cd
[07:51] <sandeepr> histo, looks the apt-cache seems to have a corrupt copy of a package. autoclean and clean did not help get me past this and i continue to get hash sum mismatch error with apt-get install pkg
[07:51] <sandeepr> histo, any thought of a way to clear the cache and get past this?
[07:52] <histo> sandeepr: packages are kept in /var/cache/apt/archives/  you can apt-get clean  to clear them
[07:52] <sandeepr> histo, the apt-get clean and apt-get autoclean did not help
[07:52] <lotuspsychje> im looking for a way to read ubuntu logs in colours/groups anyone know a package for that?
[07:52] <histo> k610: What version of ubuntu is this? also does it just hang booting the kernel or any output?
[07:53] <k610> 12.04LTS
[07:53] <k610> i had 2 freezes : 1. i had to press enter in grub for it to move on with boot 2. i had a freeze just before logon prompt with any output
[07:55] <histo> k610: And what it is doing now?
[07:55] <k610> had to ctrl+c on the pysical machine again then it would go on to the logon
[07:57] <chaos7theory> Something that's never seemed to be directly answered, but looking at the Beta files under the release page of ubuntu, under the AMB64 files it mentions only AMD processors. Should it really matter if you have an AMD64 or an Intel 64 processor?
[07:57] <histo> k610: Is it still hanging at grub screen on boot?
[07:57] <histo> k610: or are you just venting
[07:58] <k610> venting ? ill try a reboot now again
[07:58] <auronandace> chaos7theory: its a misnomer, amd64 is the arch and it is used by both amd and intel
[07:58] <histo> k610: check your grub timeout in /etc/default/grub
[07:58] <auronandace> chaos7theory: just think of it as amd64 simply means 64bit
[07:59] <k610> i did a hardware button reset and its freezing on grub now
[07:59] <chaos7theory> So why don't they simply say x86-64?
[07:59] <k610> histo, GRUB_TIMEOUT = 2
[08:00] <auronandace> chaos7theory: because they named it after amd who got there before intel (i agree it should be 86_64)
[08:00] <histo> k610: and does it have a default line ot boot?
[08:00] <k610> histo, it's selecting the right line
[08:00] <histo> k610: key try rebooting it should only sit there for 2 seconds and boot the default line then.
[08:01] <k610> histo, i did an ssh reboot and the machine went to a black screen without passing by grub
[08:01] <histo> k610: Is the machine up?
[08:02] <k610> histo, it started a reboot then dived into a black screen
[08:03] <k610> histo, i physical reset now : it's hanging on grub
[08:03] <k610> histo, 10seconds already
[08:03] <k610> histo, selected line is : Ubuntu , with 3inux 3.2.0.40-generic
[08:03] <k610> histo, i'll press enter i guess
[08:04] <histo> k610: try changint he timeout to 0
[08:05] <histo> k610: and sudo update-grub
[08:05] <k610> histo, did a "reboot now" from the command line (not ssh) -> bios -> grub -> black screen -> monitor goes off
[08:06] <rohitkav> my usb drive when copying says permission are not allowed
[08:06] <histo> k610: rebooting from ssh session vs command line should not make a difference at all.
[08:06] <rohitkav> what to do
[08:06] <histo> rohitkav: fix your permissions
[08:06] <rohitkav> could you help
[08:06] <rohitkav> it says "The destination is read-only."
[08:07] <rohitkav> I can't do it through changing the properties to read and write histo
[08:07] <histo> rohitkav: How did you mount the thumb drive?
[08:07] <rohitkav> just clicking
[08:07] <k610> histo, you are right there was actually a short grub screen on the ssh reboot too. What's weird is that the text showing up after grub is in "block" font instead of normal [a-z] text
[08:08] <rohitkav> i dont' get your question, how did you mount?? meaning
[08:08] <histo> k610: No idea could be the splash or quiet I have no idea what your config is
[08:08] <histo> rohitkav: please pastebin the output of mount
[08:08] <jony> someone with IPX knownledge, please help
[08:08] <chaos7theory> Is Btrfs still in 'draft' so to say?
[08:08] <histo> !someone | jony
[08:09] <jony> in virtualbox I have a Windows XP, and its IPX function does not work
[08:09] <histo> jony: and this relates to ubuntu how?
[08:10] <rohitkav> http://pastebin.com/a7NnmiPQ histo
[08:10] <jony> I have ubuntu 12.04 desktop... in this OS I have virtualbox which is running Win XP
[08:10] <histo> rohitkav: Okay now try pastbin the output of the command "mount"  please
[08:11] <histo> jony: Why do you think your issue is with ubuntu is what I'm asking
[08:11] <rohitkav> http://pastebin.com/PqPxmd1v histo
[08:11] <rohitkav> check this
[08:12] <jony> because if I install XP as a real OS, the IPX works
[08:12] <histo> jony: XP doesnt' know it's not installed on bare metal. Fix your network settings in vbox if traffic isn't getting out.
[08:12] <whatever_42> hey. my ubuntu server got stuck while booting and i can't figure out how to make it boot in verbose mode. there is no quiet in the boot option
[08:13] <histo> rohitkav: sudo mount -o remount.rw /dev/sdb1
[08:13] <rohitkav> what this does
[08:13] <jony> in virtualbox win xp, I can ping local and internet IP too
[08:13] <rohitkav> histo,
[08:13] <jony> only IPX won't pass trough
[08:13] <histo> rohitkav: remounts the usb drive read write
[08:14] <histo> jony: You do realize that virtualbox uses a different IP for guests than you normal network unless you setup bridged networking
[08:14] <whatever_42> is there a line i can add that will make ubuntu boot in verbose mode
[08:15] <kgalahassa> hi , I want to install a program which will permit me evaluation of algorithms, I'M A NOVICE
[08:15] <histo> kgalahassa: have you tried searching the software center
[08:16] <rohitkav> i get same error histo
[08:16] <jony> histo, yes, it got a different IP via DHCP
[08:16] <histo> whatever_42: do you have the splash option on?
[08:16] <kgalahassa> yes, but nothing,  i want a gui software, well done for my lessons in algorithms
[08:16] <whatever_42> histo: it does not say splash in the entry either
[08:17] <histo> jony: How is your networking setup and what are you trying to communicate with over IPX
[08:17] <CFenix> jony: i think that you're looking for a channel call #windows  but that's just my guess
[08:18] <histo> whatever_42: add text to the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT  line
[08:19] <whatever_42> i am in the gnu grub emac editor right now. so what exactly do you want me to add?
[08:19] <histo> jony: Where is the device/server whatever you are trying to communicate with over IPX?
[08:19] <histo> whatever_42: text
[08:19] <kgalahassa> hi , I want to install a program which will permit me evaluation of algorithms, I'M A NOVICEyes, i want a gui software, well done for my lessons in algorithms
[08:20] <histo> kgalahassa: did you try searching the software center?
[08:20] <kgalahassa> nothing, histo
[08:20] <histo> kgalahassa: There are plenty of math programs in the software center
[08:21] <histo> kgalahassa: enable the universe and/or multiverse if you which to have more options
[08:21] <whatever_42> histo: what dou you mean by text? shall i add GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT
[08:21] <whatever_42> ?
[08:22] <jony> histo, it's a server and it's connected locally, in the same IP range with my desktop ubuntu
[08:22] <kgalahassa> histo, how enable universe/multiverse sources?
[08:23] <kgalahassa> please give to a channel where they discuss on c programming
[08:23] <histo> jony: okay well you need to stop your virtual machine and fix it's network settings in virtual box so that it's in bridged mode and it gets an IP form the local network
[08:23] <kgalahassa> please give to a channel where they discuss on c programming
[08:23] <Guest19145> CFenix
[08:23] <histo> !alis | kgalahassa
[08:24] <histo> kgalahassa: system settings > software sources
[08:24] <histo> ;lkns;knowl.com/x.log
[08:24] <histo> Pcntlf 1356 #debian
[08:24] <histo> wow
[08:24] <histo> whatever_42: yes as the only option. I though you were in the grub emacs thing? you could have added it there to the end of the linux line
[08:26] <whatever_42> histo: yes since my vm does not start i am in this grub emac editor whatever. well if i simply add this line it complains that it does not know what to do with it
[08:26] <kgalahassa> histo, i see, all these  were selected, already,
[08:26] <qualia> which one is better, emacs or vim ?
[08:26] <whatever_42> histo: is there some value i need to add?
[08:26] <kgalahassa> qualia, it depends on what you are willing to
[08:27] <histo> whatever_42: you add it at the end of the linux line..  Go to the linux line and press the end key put text there and hit ctrl+x or hit F10
[08:27] <qualia> my will is pretty wiiide
[08:27] <qualia> i mean the range of options
[08:27] <qualia> ...lol
[08:27] <histo> kgalahassa: Then search for math and look at all the applications
[08:27] <histo> kgalahassa: or algebra or whatever
[08:27] <histo> !best | qualia
[08:28] <qualia> scooby dooby dooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[08:28] <jony> histo, it's on bridged mode, and it got a separate IP than my ubuntu OS
[08:28] <linux> 1111111
[08:28] <linux> dasdA
[08:28] <linux> ASDAdA
[08:28] <linux> DCADASD
[08:28] <FloodBot1> linux: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:28] <linux> ASDASD
[08:28] <linux> ASD
[08:29] <histo> jony: please /j #vbox  as this has nothing to do with ubuntu
[08:30] <kgalahassa> qualia, emacs is power than vim, but  is do not want a difficult environnement, use only vim, it permit  server communication
[08:30]  * nevyn disagrees...
[08:31] <histo> !polls
[08:32] <jony> histo, ty
[08:35] <whatever_42> ok well apparently i need to enabled vt in my bios since i set the virtual machine up at home
[08:40] <k610> histo, did a fresh install of ubuntu lts.12.04 and the bugger hangs on reboot O.o
[08:41] <k610> histo, same sht : hangs on grub
[08:44] <pankaj_> hi there
[08:45] <pankaj_>  is anybody there?
[08:45] <petan> no
[08:46] <petan> this is a dead channel, these 1670+++ people is just a decoy
[08:46] <pankaj_> pentan, i have a problem
[08:46] <petan> with?
[08:47] <pankaj_> PPPoE connection
[08:47] <jatakk> Just ask the question and if somebody knows the answe they'll help you
[08:47] <jatakk> You don't need to ask to ask a question
[08:47] <otGO> hey guys! could someone help me, please. I have a laptop where I have installed ubuntu and Win 7. after bios update UEFI is not working, thus ubuntu is not loading. I have some important information saved on Ubuntu partition. is there any way to recover that info? I know the account password if that helps
[08:47] <pankaj_> surely jatakk
[08:47] <petan> otGO yes it is
[08:48] <petan> otGO you installed win 7 after ubuntu right?
[08:48] <petan> win 7 has very shitty installer
[08:48] <otGO> petan: not exactly. it came with win7, then I went through hell to install ubuntu( i had no idea what UEFI is)
[08:48] <petan> aha
[08:48] <otGO> and then i did bios update
[08:49] <petan> ok in order to boot from uefi you need to create a boot partition in fat32
[08:49] <petan> usually ubuntu installer takes care of that
[08:49] <otGO> and then decided to do a clean Win install, where i was faced with the problem of GPT partitioning, and then realised that Ubuntu is not loading either
[08:49] <petan> did you have uefi boot before you update your bios?
[08:49] <otGO> petan: yes I did.
[08:49] <petan> aah
[08:49] <CFenix> hi everyone, i need to create a shortcut to a program I installed but didn't generate it, i can still open it by typing the the name
[08:50] <otGO> petan:  i think, i did.
[08:50] <petan> so you did a clean install of win7 after the udate of bios
[08:50] <petan> and are you sure win 7 didn't remove any of the ubuntu partitions?
[08:50] <otGO> petan:  i tried to. but i was unable to because of GPT partitioning style
[08:51] <petan> eh, so can you explain to me what exactly you did? you had ubuntu + win7 working, 2) you updated bios 3) ?????
[08:51] <otGO> petan:  not sure if you can read it, but here's a thread detailing it: rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?32160-N56VM-bios-upgrade(214)-can-t-install-Win7
[08:51] <otGO> 3) i decided to reinstall windows, ad it was a new laptop with bunch of bloatware.
[08:51] <pankaj_> guys! i have got a PPPoE connection, i used "sudo pppoeconf" to set the connection but still its not working
[08:51] <petan> otGO ok and were you successfull in reinstalling windows?
[08:51] <otGO> 4. during the install, i have formatted C: and recovery partition.
[08:52] <otGO> no, i wasn't
[08:52] <petan> ok, can you boot into any OS now?
[08:52] <kgalahassa> please give to a channel where they discuss on c programming
[08:53] <llutz> !alis | kgalahassa
[08:53] <petan> kgalahassa did you try #c
[08:53] <otGO> petan: here's a copy of the thread http://pastebin.com/5pusJG6A
[08:53] <pankaj_> guys! i have got a PPPoE connection problem
[08:53] <kgalahassa> join #C
[08:53] <otGO> petan: no, I cannot.
[08:54] <petan> otGO ok, do you have any installation media of ubuntu?
[08:54] <otGO> petan: the closest i get is grub
[08:54] <otGO> petan: yes, i do
[08:54] <petan> can you boot into live system?
[08:54] <otGO> yes
[08:54] <petan> ok, do that please
[08:54] <petan> then you will be able to open gparted and then we can examine what has happened to your pc
[08:55] <pankaj_> i have got a PPPoE connection problem,
[08:55] <petan> pankaj_ can you describe it more?
[08:55] <otGO> petan: it will take me a second.
[08:55] <pankaj_>  i used "sudo pppoeconf" to set the connection but still its not working
[08:56] <petan> pankaj_ why you didn't just use the network manager to set it up
[08:56] <pankaj_> i tried DSL setting
[08:57] <pankaj_> but  in vain
[08:57] <petan> pankaj_ I am no expert on this... maybe someone else can help you
[08:57] <pankaj_> i think my problem is universal , read this http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=150&t=27396
[08:58] <pankaj_> i know the solution but dont know how to implement http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=150&t=27396
[09:00] <pankaj_> petan can u help me modify ppp.conf file ?
[09:00] <pankaj_> can anybody help me modify ppp.conf file ?
[09:03] <otGO> petan: update: it will take me a while. turns out that I need to re-download it, and re-burn it.
[09:03] <petan> ah, ok
[09:09] <nick> Hi
[09:09] <pankaj_> hi
[09:09] <Guest15239> When Ubuntu 13.04 will be released?
[09:10] <DJones> !schedule | Guest15239
[09:10] <pankaj_> google it
[09:10] <pankaj_> they will release it soon
[09:11] <linux> ok
[09:13] <linux> what's wrong
[09:13] <dpreacher> how do i specify only a set of file(s) to be committed when using svn ci from the terminal
[09:15] <dpreacher> in a dir already part of svn repo say /path/to/repo i want to say "svn ci -m 'msg' somefile.c" how can i do that?
[09:16] <linux> gh
[09:16] <zhongwei> sorry i don't know
[09:16] <linux> haha
[09:18] <otGO> petan: I'm in
[09:18] <linux> what are u doing ? u  guys
[09:18] <Mrokii> Hello. What would be a proper channel to ask abotu Python-Nautilus programming?
[09:18] <petan> otGO ok
[09:19] <petan> otGO can you open terminal
[09:19] <otGO> petan: yup
[09:20] <jony> histo, I managed it. Solution: it works only via LAN cable.
[09:20] <petan> otGO ok, type gparted in there
[09:20] <otGO> it says root privilages required
[09:21] <linux> what's the meaning of common
[09:21] <otGO> petan: i tried sudo gparted and it started
[09:21] <DJones> linux: This is a support channel for Ubuntu, general chat is in #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:22] <pioneer> Flash is not working properly for me in chromium
[09:22] <zhongwei> because you have no more Jurisdiction
[09:22] <pioneer> i have restricted-extra installed
[09:22] <nashant> Alright guys. Anyone know if there's ever gonna be a live usb released that actually supports uefi without any tinkering?
[09:22] <petan> otGO ok, can you tell me what you see there?
[09:23] <pioneer> when flash content loads, its not renderd properly. has horisontal lines though the flash content
[09:23] <pioneer> like i have a broken gfx card :/
[09:23] <petan> otGO I would like to know number of partitions at least
[09:23] <Dragon64> pioneer what browser you using?
[09:23] <nick-newbie> hey i'm trying to install Ofiice 2007 with Playonlinux  !  and i get this error " error : unable to find the CD-Rom
[09:23] <petan> otGO is there any other partition than your windows one and recovery?
[09:23] <pioneer> Dragon64, Version 25.0.1364.160 Ubuntu 12.10 (25.0.1364.160-0ubuntu0.12.10.1)
[09:24] <pioneer> Dragon64, Chromium
[09:24] <otGO> petan: i can take a picture and upload it somewhere, but I see different partitions of different sizes. some have red exclaimation marks. there are 7 formated partitions and 2 of unallocated space. linux-swap partitions has a key icon next to it
[09:24] <petan> otGO no
[09:24] <Guest69265> vdsvf
[09:24] <petan> otGO type "sudo parted -l" and use pastebin ;)
[09:24] <Dragon64> I know that the latest version of Chrome broke flash, but I thought chromium was OK.
[09:25] <k610> histo, seems it was the graphic card i had on this box. i replaced it and got trough
[09:25] <otGO> to use pastebin i need to be conected to the internet, right? the laptop isn't connected to it
[09:25] <pioneer> Dragon64, its not all the time tho. only some content
[09:25] <petan> otGO yes you need, or save the output to flash disk and open it on another pc
[09:25] <Dragon64> thats odd. anythin in common with the content like resolution, source etc?
[09:26] <petan> just type  "sudo parted -l > output" and save that file somewhere
[09:26] <DJones> nick-newbie: Can't help with the problem, but you might be able to get support in #playonlinux That looks to be their own support channel
[09:26] <zhongwei> byebye!
[09:27] <nick-newbie> DJones: that can help thank you
[09:27] <pioneer> Dragon64, mesaged you
[09:27] <pioneer> *messaged
[09:27] <pankaj_>  want to set pppoe connection
[09:28] <pankaj_> i used "sudo pppoeconf" to set the connection but still its not working
[09:28] <oal> Any good apps for resizing lots of images? GUI is preferred
[09:28] <pankaj_> how to modify ppp.conf
[09:29] <llutz> oal: resize to a fixed size?
[09:29] <spydon> Is it out yet?
[09:29] <otGO> petan: something is not working. the command I've used didn't do anything. or at least, I can't copy it to the sepparate document
[09:29] <oal> llutz: I need to set max height and max width, and keep the aspect ratio
[09:29] <petan> otGO "sudo parted -l"
[09:30] <petan> otGO the one with > output will create file output and that is all :P there will be nothing else
[09:30] <llutz> oal: why GUI? "convert" (cli) from imagemagick does it quite well
[09:31] <oal> llutz: I've used convert before, but was hoping for a decent gui so I don't have to remember all the command line flags ;)
[09:31] <otGO> petan: but i need to save it to the usb stick. how do i do that?
[09:31] <andy__> How to remove the "message from " on the desktop ?
[09:32] <otGO> petan: i have created a new file on the usb stick, and trying to paste something after typing in the command in the terminal and it's not showing me a valid option of pasting
[09:32] <petan> otGO put the usb stick in your computer, wait for it to mount, then do "sudo parted -l > /path/where/is/your/usb/stick/file.txt
[09:33] <llutz> !info phatch | oal
[09:34] <oal> llutz: I actually tried that, but found it very confusing :/
[09:34] <oal> I'll just use convert
[09:35] <llutz> oal: its still the best tool for it
[09:36] <Guest98218> asdfasdflasd;fklajsdf
[09:36] <petan> otGO sorry I need to go... try someone else to help you
[09:36] <otGO> petan:  thank you
[09:37] <Guest98218> oh fuck
[09:38] <Guest98218> asdfasdfasdf
[09:38] <DJones> Guest98218: Please don't swear in the channel,
[09:38] <Guest98218> im sorry
[09:39] <Guest98218> so how does one obtain longer battery life with ubuntu
[09:41] <Guest98218> penis
[09:41] <llutz> could someone please kick the troll
[09:43] <superdo> hi
[09:43] <pankaj_> Guest98218 swear something entertaining
[09:43] <superdo> if I copy files to an usb drive (~250MB files) why the system waits 30 second after copying each file?
[09:45] <vlt> superdo: Because it has to actually *write* to USB after reading (fast) from disk
[09:45] <superdo> so my usb drive is so slow in writing?
[09:46] <nevyn> if you're getting 10mb/s to a usb drive you're doing ok.
[09:47] <Jordan_U> superdo: What do you mean by "waits"?
[09:47] <superdo> nevyn, the writing is fast, tbh, but I gut a "frozen" state for a half min
[09:47] <superdo> Jordan_U, ^
[09:47] <nevyn> superdo: the system shouldn't be "frozen" unless it's an ancient singlecore box
[09:48] <Jordan_U> superdo: Do you mean that the progress bar in the GUI file manager gets close to the end then stops?
[09:48] <superdo> no
[09:48] <Jordan_U> superdo: Please explain exactly what you're seeing.
[09:49] <superdo> Krusader copy window, the percentage goes to 37% to 38 in a sec, then it waits for ~ 30 sec
[09:50] <nashant> Alright guys. Anyone know if there's a plan to release a live usb image that actually supports uefi without any tinkering and without having to boot a live usb and chroot after installing?
[09:50] <DJones> superdo: That sounds like the system is reading the first part of the file into memory and filling up the write buffer, then because writing is slower to usb, it has to pause as the buffer starts writing before it can continue
[09:50] <superdo> plus, after a file is copied, console text is: Stalled
[09:51] <Jordan_U> nashant: The current 12.10 images should do that, provided that you dd them to the USB drive rather than using Unetbootin or similar tools.
[09:51] <superdo> DJones, is it a normal behaviour?
[09:51] <nashant> Jordan_U: oh. So impossible from windows then
[09:51] <DJones> superdo: I get the same thing with nautilus when copying large files to usb
[09:52] <Jordan_U> nashant: No, there is dd for Windows, as well as other image writers (though I haven't personally used any).
[09:52] <nevyn> nashant: ubootin works for that..
[09:53] <nashant> nevyn: I beg to differ. Been trying that. It also has an issue where it copies deb and udeb files across with the wrong names
[09:53] <nevyn> nashant: I used universal usb installer and installed a uefi system with it.
[09:53] <nevyn> nashant: ie: I lie.
[09:53] <superdo> ok thanks all, I accept it, and wait :)
[09:54] <DJones> superdo: I doubt its anything to worry about
[09:54] <nevyn> superdo: heavy IO should not make the system unresponsive.. unless it's absolutely ancient.
[09:54] <Jordan_U> nashant: To be clear, I don't know to what extent various liveUSB tools work WRT Ubuntu and UEFI, but I do know that dd works.
[09:54] <nevyn> like pentium II ancient..
[09:54] <superdo> nevyn, i used "frozen" incorrectly
[09:54] <nevyn>  console text is: Stalled ...
[09:55] <otGO> could someone please help me to recover data from a partition I am unable to boot?
[09:55] <Jordan_U> nashant: You're being very unclear. Please explain exactly what you're doing and what you're seeing (err on the side of givng more information).
[09:57] <pankaj_> guys help
[09:57] <pankaj_> PPPoE connectin problem
[09:57] <pankaj_> tries "sudo pppconf"
[09:58] <Jordan_U> otGO: If the only problem is that you can't boot from it (rather than for example not being able to boot from it because the drive is failing or the filesystem is corrupt), then you should be able to just boot from a LiveDVD/USB and copy files wherever you want them from ther.
[09:58] <nashant> Jordan_U: Right, I'm trying to do a UEFI install of server from usb. I try and run the install from UEFI USB mode, all I see is a blank screen. I've tried disabling everything possible in the BIOS, except IOMMU which is what I'm trying desperately to get to work.
[09:58] <pankaj_> sorry , tried "sudo pppconf"
[09:58] <Jordan_U> nashant: Do you get to the grub menu?
[09:59] <otGO> Jordan_U: i have described the situation here: http://pastebin.com/5pusJG6A
[09:59] <nashant> Yeah, I get to the grub menu, but when I select an option, screen goes blank, usb stops being accessed
[09:59] <otGO> Jordan_U: that is if you would care to read it.
[10:00] <solomon> ubuntu studio
[10:00] <nashant> Jordan_U: Also, do you know anything about IOMMU and methods of enabling it?
[10:01] <pankaj_> have a look at my problem, please http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=150&t=27396
[10:01] <derbarb> can someone help me? i had a funny restart in 12.10 and now when i login to ubuntu i get a blank wallpaper.
[10:01] <Ben64> pankaj_: we don't support mint here
[10:01] <pankaj_> yah i know
[10:01] <Ben64> then....
[10:01] <pankaj_> i have ubuntu installed , but read the post, its similar http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=150&t=27396
[10:02] <pankaj_> its very similar to my problem
[10:04] <pankaj_> Ben64: waiting for your reply !
[10:04] <ronalds> derbarb, how is restart funny?
[10:04] <otGO> Jordan_U: i can see it from the LiveCD, but I can not move those files. probably because they are password protected. I know the password however.
[10:05] <ronalds> otGO probably encrypted home partition
[10:05] <otGO> ronalds: it may be the case. is there any way to access the files if I know the password?
[10:05] <ronalds> google how to recover files from live cd ubuntu
[10:06] <dpreacher> Please tell how to commit a single file to svn from terminal
[10:06] <derbarb> how do i start the software sources so i can change my video card driver from cli?
[10:06] <ronalds> by starting software sources derbard :)
[10:06] <pankaj_> have a look at my problem, please is very similar to this thread  http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=150&t=27396
[10:08] <Jordan_U> nashant: It may be worth trying Fedora, as it has better UEFI support in some areas (like graphics drivers, which seems to be at least part of your issue). If you can get a Fedora liveUSB to boot, then you should be able to get Ubuntu to boot also, with a little (or possibly a lot of) work.
[10:08] <auronandace> pankaj_: don't ask for mint support here
[10:08] <pankaj_> its not mint guys
[10:08] <nashant> Jordan_U: cheers, I'll have a look. I'll try raw writing to the usb first
[10:08] <derbarb> ronalds: i had just installed 12.10 and had finished doing an upgrade, but before i restarted i changed my video card driver to the amd proprietary driver and instead of clicking on the update manager restart i clicked on the restart on software sources
[10:09] <ronalds> derbard do sudo apt-get update
[10:09] <ronalds> sudo apt-get upgrade
[10:09] <Jordan_U> derbarb: Both restart buttons do the same thing, a simple restart.
[10:10] <derbarb> Jordan_U: yeah but instead of restarting it shutdown.
[10:10] <qb_> Привет линуксоидам
[10:10] <auronandace> !ru | qb_
[10:10] <derbarb> Jordan_U: and when i rebooted i got a blank wallpaper
[10:10] <ronalds> good day russian
[10:10] <derbarb> (and mouse cursor)
[10:10] <ronalds> what is blank?
[10:10] <ronalds> blackscreen?
[10:11] <derbarb> no, just a wallpaper
[10:11] <ronalds> oh
[10:11] <ronalds> unity --reset
[10:11] <derbarb> (and mouse cursor)_
[10:11] <pankaj_> auronandace : my ubuntu problem http://paste.ubuntu.com/5595155/plain/
[10:11] <derbarb> ronalds: it sez the unity --reset iption is now deprecated.
[10:12] <ronalds> well you need to reinstall unity
[10:12] <ronalds> probably would fix the thing
[10:13] <ronalds> sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[10:13] <auronandace> !ppp | pankaj_
[10:13] <pankaj_> PPPoE
[10:13] <derbarb> ronalds: ok i did that, still no unity.
[10:14] <Dawn__> Hi all.   I would like to ditch my Windoz on a dual boot machine.  I was thinking that all I had to do was gparted and get rid of the the NTFS partition.
[10:14] <ronalds> launch unity by just typing it
[10:14] <ronalds> see whats happens
[10:14] <derbarb> i did, it seg faulted
[10:15] <pankaj_> my ubuntu internet connection problem http://askubuntu.com/questions/284519/pppoe-connection-problem
[10:15] <ronalds> fix broken packages
[10:15] <ronalds> google it
[10:15] <Dawn__> Then how do I get grub to reset to just Ubuntu and not both?
[10:15] <pankaj_> auronandace : http://askubuntu.com/questions/284519/pppoe-connection-problem
[10:16] <derbarb> when i try to start unity it says my hardware doest support it
[10:16] <ronalds> Dawn, I understand that you don't like windows, but I wouldn't gparted it
[10:16] <DJones> !google | ronalds
[10:16] <derbarb> is there anyway i can swtch my video card driver back to xorg?
[10:16] <ronalds> how do you know that you have other than xorg
[10:17] <auronandace> pankaj_: you just copied the mint forum post over into askubuntu, that doesn't automatically make it a ubuntu issue
[10:17] <pankaj_> internet connection problem, help
[10:17] <ronalds> derbarb, you have nautilus -desktop left right?
[10:17] <pankaj_> The connection is a wired PPPOE
[10:17] <pankaj_>  tried with 'pppoe-setup' and put his password and username
[10:18] <ronalds> pankaj, it's mint, there is chat for mint users
[10:18] <derbarb> ronalds: yes i think so,i can right click and it pulls up a menu, though it is ugly
[10:18] <ronalds> derbarb, which ubuntu version you use?
[10:19] <Dawn__> ronalds, what is the best way to make my system Ubuntu only?
[10:19] <derbarb> 12.10
[10:19] <ronalds> Dawn, full install, 12.04 probably
[10:19] <pankaj_> ronalds : are mint and ubuntu not same?
[10:19] <auronandace> pankaj_: no, they are not the same
[10:19] <Dawn__> Oh.  LOL    Duh!!      Yeah.
[10:19] <ronalds> pankaj, mint is derivative with it's own community
[10:20] <pankaj_> i dont use mint , im just using that link to explain u my problem quickly
[10:20] <Dawn__> Thanks.  Am gonna back up the good stuff on this drive and fdisk!
[10:20] <pankaj_> i use ubuntu 12.10
[10:20] <upomoc> hi can somone help me
[10:21] <pankaj_> i dont use mint , im just using that link to explain u my problem quickly, i use ubuntu 12.10
[10:21] <auronandace> upomoc: depends what you need help with
[10:21] <upomoc> i manged to turn off start splash screen by editing grub "quiet splash" but how to turn off end screen (the screen thet starts when i shutdown)
[10:22] <ronalds> derbarb, there is second choise, by backing up everything on seperate partition and reinstalling ubuntu, by the same disk you installed it
[10:22] <ronalds> but it's long process
[10:22] <dpreacher> which channel can i get my svn queries cleared from?
[10:23] <ronalds> better try finding how to fix broken packages, but backing up still is good choice if lost some ubuntu stufff
[10:24] <upomoc> anyone?
[10:24] <pankaj_> pity on mint, i and my ubuntu problem (edited) i use ubuntu 12.10, http://askubuntu.com/questions/284519/pppoe-connection-problem
[10:24] <pankaj_> help me now! please
[10:25] <upomoc> how to turn off end screen
[10:26] <linuxuz3r> whats the terminal that doesnt have a window border?
[10:26] <pioneer> upomoc, GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=""
[10:26] <pioneer> upomoc, in /etc/default/grub
[10:26] <ronalds> http://ru.d-ws.biz/articles/pppoe-ubuntu-setup.shtml
[10:26] <ronalds> pankaj, russian guide for ppoe
[10:26] <pioneer> upomoc, remeber to sudo update-grub after
[10:27] <upomoc> pioneer:  yes i know thet will stop splash screen on startup but how to turn off on shutdown
[10:27] <ronalds> http://askubuntu.com/questions/149200/setting-up-a-pppoe-internet-connection-in-ubuntu-12-04
[10:27] <pankaj_> tried them already
[10:28] <ronalds> I have had worse experience with 12.10 I preffer 12.04 or even 13.04 , I'm using now
[10:28] <pankaj_> so should i switch to them as well
[10:28] <ronalds> pankaj, fix network card?
[10:29] <pioneer> upomoc, shutting down verbosely removes the splash
[10:29] <pankaj_> fixed
[10:29] <pioneer> upomoc, or shoud "sudo shutdown -v -h now"
[10:29] <pankaj_> i have been trying for this problem since a week
[10:30] <pankaj_> i think some guys with same problem are successful with a solution which i know
[10:30] <ronalds> try other versions of linux os, I think xDSL is supported by most
[10:31] <ronalds> 12.10 may be buggy sometimes
[10:32] <pioneer> hmm, did upmoc just run the command...
[10:33] <vnc786> cron job not running
[10:33] <vnc786> /var/log/syslog
[10:33] <vnc786> Apr 23 15:55:01 ltsp02 CRON[25610]: (root) CMD (tar cvfz /opt/backup/ltsp/amd64-$(date +)
[10:33] <vnc786> Apr 23 15:55:01 ltsp02 CRON[25609]: (CRON) info (No MTA installed, discarding output)
[10:33] <FloodBot1> vnc786: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:33] <vnc786> the command does run in shell  tar cvfz /opt/backup/ltsp/amd64-$(date +%d%m%y).tar.zip /opt/ltsp/amd64
[10:34] <vnc786> running as root
[10:34] <jrib> vnc786: '%' signs have a special meaning in crontab.  Read « man 5 crontab »
[10:36] <vnc786> jrib: what if I put above cmd in vi and run as script ? did this also but still same result ..
[10:36] <jrib> vnc786: you can do that or just escape the percent signs
[10:37] <aneks> how do I access the trash via the command line? I thought it was in .Trash or something similar?
[10:37] <jrib> !trash | aneks
[10:37] <aneks> thanks :)
[10:39] <vnc786> jrib: tar cvfz /opt/backup/ltsp/amd64-$(date +'%d%m%y').tar.zip /opt/ltsp/amd64  this is wat u r telling
[10:40] <jrib> vnc786: no, I don't think that would work
[10:41] <vnc786> jrib: i was just wondering the some cronjob was and is working in my another server
[10:41] <jrib> vnc786: like I said, you need to escape the percent signs (or create a separate script like you said)
[10:43] <vnc786> jrib: the scripts gives me the same error i am just clue less about escape the percentage sign can you please tell more on than ??
[10:44] <jrib> vnc786: \%  (this is in the man page)
[10:51] <vnc786> jrib: thanks jibs \% worked but was not having idea about this because in another box i am just running same cmd with \% any way will dig on that !!
[10:53] <cloneG> hi is there a way to find out when the system was installed?
[10:53] <miss> where
[10:53] <cloneG> no when
[10:54] <miss> who are you
[10:54] <cloneG> I d like to know how long I ve been using ubuntu
[10:54] <cloneG> just an ubunter
[10:55] <miss> I use it just now
[10:55] <cloneG> yep me too
[10:55] <cloneG> but now it is failing...
[10:55] <cloneG> and I like to know how long the good last
[10:55] <cloneG> I would*
[10:56] <miss> I am chinese
[10:56] <cloneG> ni hao ma?
[10:56] <miss> wo hai hao
[10:56] <miss> I am in huaqing
[10:56] <cloneG> wo hen hao
[10:57] <miss> where are you?
[10:57] <cloneG> spain
[10:57] <miss> woca
[10:58] <miss> where is it?
[10:58] <DJones> !ot | miss cloneG
[10:59] <cloneG> yeah I was just asking where could I find the start date of the system
[10:59] <cloneG> the time I installed it...how would I know?
[11:00] <miss>  I have no idea
[11:00] <cloneG> dont you find it is an interesting question?
[11:00] <mattnie> you can search for the oldest file in the system by getting root and ==> find -type f -printf '%T+ %p\n' | sort | head -n 1
[11:00] <DJones> cloneG: I'm not sure if there is a definative way to find out when it was installed
[11:00] <mattnie> than you get the oldest file in your system :)
[11:01] <cloneG> weird command would you explain it?
[11:02] <cloneG> mattnie
[11:03] <mattnie> ok sorry it doesn't work ^^ the command is right but i tested it on my system and found a file which was created in 1970 ... forgot my idea ;)
[11:03] <cloneG> lol
[11:03] <yassd> I'm trying installing ubuntu but I don't have the option "installing alongside windows" as in this picture:
[11:03] <yassd> http://assets.ubuntu.com/sites/ubuntu/latest/u/img/download/desktop-1204-install-4.jpg
[11:04] <cloneG> there must be a way
[11:04] <vnc786> cloneG: http://askubuntu.com/questions/1352/how-can-i-tell-what-date-ubuntu-was-installed
[11:06] <anass> Hello, I've a problem loading and installing ubuntu 12.10 on Lenovo Z750 where was Windows8 installed before I format the entire H.D.D and I cannot disable the UEFI (Secure boot) as there's no option in bios to do that
[11:09] <cloneG> vnc786: thanks
[11:09] <cloneG> 2 months 15 days
[11:10] <cloneG> till a bad error appeared
[11:10] <gustav> Hey, hey. Does anyone know if there is a better driver for RTL8111/8168B other than what gets installed per default on 12.10? I'm trying to track down some packet loss.
[11:10] <cloneG> not bad I ve been happy enough
[11:11] <boichev> is there a problem if I truncate /var/mail/nobody with "echo "" >  /var/mail/nobody" ?
[11:12] <miss> what is the time now
[11:12] <cloneG> my problem now is not hard to fix but I cant
[11:12] <cloneG> drivers are driving me nuts
[11:13] <cloneG> its an old graphic card and latest kernel failed to identify it
[11:13] <anass> How can I install ubuntu 12.10 on Secure Boot without windows 8 and EFI Partition?
[11:13] <mattnie> cloneG: what's your problem?
[11:13] <cloneG> mattie are you helping me?
[11:13] <cloneG> great!
[11:13] <mattnie> I don't know if i am able to help you ^^^
[11:13] <cloneG> its an nvidia geforce 8800 gt
[11:14] <Ben64> nobody can help you if you don't ask a question
[11:14] <cloneG> and I am using ubuntu 12.04
[11:14] <sonic_> hi all
[11:14] <vnc786> cloneG: lspci -vv | grep -i VGA
[11:14] <cloneG> but when using second life the graphic environment slowed down and freezed...
[11:15] <Guest18059> russian
[11:15] <cloneG> it think it was due to a recent kernel update...
[11:15] <cloneG> but I cant be sure..
[11:15] <cloneG> the point is I couldnt open terminal and I just reboot using button
[11:16] <cloneG> that was the last time the graphic environment run good
[11:16] <cloneG> from then on it allways got stuck at 'checking battery state'
[11:16] <cloneG> when trying to restart lightdm..
[11:16] <cloneG> nothing happens
[11:17] <cloneG> and startx gives another error:
[11:17] <Ben64> !enter | cloneG
[11:17] <cloneG> nvidia could not open the device file /dev/nvidia0
[11:17] <cloneG> I have a history file...
[11:18] <cloneG> I could post it instead
[11:18] <mattnie> cloneG: i don't know what is secondlife.. which driver you use? Do you use the Nvidia properitary driver?
[11:19] <cloneG> mattnie: thats the point, I ve been using current-nvidia happily since I first installed ubuntu...and the nvida-xserver-settings was showing the card correctly identified....BUT
[11:20] <cloneG> mattnie: since that crashed I tested many things and even installed propietary driver
[11:21] <Botreak> hey could somebody help me?
[11:21] <cloneG> mattnie: from the crash on I was trying to get the nvidia-current to work again. thats why I fetched latest X ppa update and upgrade the system
[11:22] <cloneG> mattnie: I didnt want to install propietary driver. then I installed nvidia-current-updates
[11:23] <Botreak> i need help wit problem in ubuntu 12.04 anybody who knows how to handle usb wifi adapters?
[11:23] <cloneG> mattnie: I am able to log in using older kernel versions but when I go to nvidia-xserver-settings it says I need to run nvidia-xconfig and then lightdm restart and startx
[11:24] <cloneG> mattnie: that hangs the graphics again and even the login .Xauthority files mess up
[11:25] <cloneG> mattnie: the latest thing I tried was to force an older nvidia-current version at synaptic..
[11:26] <cloneG> mattnie: but that didnt work either
[11:26] <asu_kabeh> endi iki wonge
[11:27] <vvvv> hi
[11:27] <cloneG> mattnie?
[11:28] <vvvv> please help me , i have connected dlink 3g usb modem , but it detected as a sdb scsi disk
[11:28] <mattnie> cloneG: Sorry I am not really familiar with nvidia drivers. but I suggest you to write your history ands logs  to http://paste.ubuntu.com/ because it is very hard for others to follow you ;)
[11:29] <cloneG> mattnie: I have an ubuntu  history. I wrote but it is in spanish
[11:29] <yassd> I'm having problem install ubuntu alongside windows 7
[11:30] <miss> hehe
[11:30] <yassd> hehe
[11:33] <cloneG> mattnie: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5595291/
[11:33] <miss> I am just learning  English here
[11:34] <cloneG> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5595291/
[11:35] <cloneG> a problem related with nvidia drivers shall anyone be inclined to drop me a line
[11:35] <hateball> !anyone | cloneG
[11:35] <cloneG> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5595291/
[11:35] <cloneG> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5595291/
[11:36] <cloneG> the problem explained in the post
[11:38] <linuxuz3r> hi
[11:39] <shnytzl> hi
[11:39] <linuxuz3r> how do i mount fat32 using automount so that regular users can read write and execute in the partition
[11:39] <aeiou> when I'm installing lamp stack via tasksel - is it possible for it not to prompt me for mysql username/password and just install without prompt? happy if i have to specify these somewhere in a config file. would like to automate the installation
[11:39] <mattnie> cloneG: I couldn't help you! But you really should learn how to ask questions and how to format text ;) cheers MaTT
[11:39] <upomoc> how to chage icons i did go to  usr/share/icons/zorinOS(the them i using)/scalabe and changed start buton and it workent on next reboot but now i changed trash icont and rebooted and it dident change (and yes i changed full and empty icons)
[11:40] <upomoc> omg now it worsk
[11:40] <upomoc> i dident notice
[11:40] <upomoc> i am so dumb
[11:40] <upomoc> sorry
[11:40] <jrib> aeiou: search for "debconf preseed" though I'm not sure how safe it is to do that with passwords
[11:41] <aeiou> jrib: interesting thank you - is there a way to get the options available for preseeding?
[11:41] <cloneG> mattnie: blame on google translator
[11:41] <venkat> hi
[11:41] <jrib> aeiou: I don't know offhand
[11:42] <shnytzl> linuxuz3r: search for /etc/fstab
[11:42] <linuxuz3r> i have
[11:42] <venkat> anyone know that how connect 3g usb dongle in ubuntu
[11:42] <venkat> anyone know that how to connect 3g usb dongle in ubuntu
[11:43] <lotuspsychje> venkat: just plugin the device and connect it
[11:43] <linuxuz3r> shnytzl, what do i put in the parameter field
[11:43] <venkat> thank you !<lotuspsychje>  but it connected as scsi sdb disk , not as usb
[11:44] <lyf> hello
[11:44] <lotuspsychje> venkat: can you connect with the wifi icon?
[11:44] <shnytzl> linuxuz3r: which parameterfield? In fstab? It should be look like that: http://www.gargi.org/stuff/sonstiges/debian/fs13.png
[11:44] <venkat> #lsusb details are : Bus 001 Device 006: ID 2001:7d00 D-Link Corp.
[11:45] <lyf> who know cloudify?
[11:45] <shnytzl> with type set to fat32 and your appropriate mount point
[11:45] <linuxuz3r> shnytzl, what should i put in options to get read write execute and unmount and mount for regular users
[11:45] <linuxuz3r> not root
#lsusb details are : Bus 001 Device 006: ID 2001:7d00 D-Link Corp.
[11:46] <Sasuke> which Apache2-mpm server is good for gestioip?
[11:48] <linuxuz3r> shnytzl, i got to add noauto
[11:48] <linuxuz3r> thanks
[11:48] <yassd> Can someone help me install ubuntu alongside windows?
[11:49] <linuxuz3r> yassd,
[11:49] <linuxuz3r> hi on a different machine you are in right now?
[11:50] <lotuspsychje> !dualboot | yassd
[11:51] <yassd> Thanks :)
[11:55] <DrGrov> Hi. Running 12.04 and now I can not get into the login screen. It refuses to recognize my monitor. I have tweaked in xorg.conf some modelines and it was working well. I deleted the xorg.conf and still it does not recognize my monitor, it leaves without a signal. Running the Nouveau drivers.
[11:56] <DrGrov> I have to use a live CD to get my monitor recognized.
[11:56] <linuxuz3r> type in your terminal
[11:56] <linuxuz3r> telnet miku.acm.uiuc.edu
[11:58] <DrGrov> Any suggestions on how to revert back to normal?
[11:58] <yassd> http://i.snag.gy/we0nm.jpg what shall I do here for installing alongside windows
[11:59] <linuxuz3r> yassd, you need another partition for ubuntu
[12:00] <alexandr> ку ку
[12:00] <alexandr> hello
[12:00] <yassd> linuxuz3r: and how do I make one?
[12:00] <yassd> linuxuz3r: shall I do it from windows?
[12:00] <linuxuz3r> you might have to delete the windows ntfs partition and  reinstall windows
[12:01] <yassd> no other options?
[12:01] <linuxuz3r> i dont know if you can resize your /dev/sda2
[12:02] <yassd> maybe I can to do it from windows
[12:02] <linuxuz3r> yes but i dont know
[12:03] <yassd> ok I'll try to make it from windows
[12:03] <DrGrov> Should I perhaps completely remove the xorg.conf and hope for the best? On the Live CD of Ubuntu 11.10 64-bit it recognizes my screen and everything working fine.
[12:03] <linuxuz3r> DrGrov, what is your video card?
[12:04] <freevil> hey guys is there mod like inf mod on windows with nvidia linux drivers
[12:04] <freevil> i have an ultrabook with a dedicated gpu which is gt740m but nvidia linux driver doesnt support it
[12:04] <freevil> altough it just a rebranded 650m
[12:04] <linuxuz3r> freevil, you got to wait for the supported drivers
[12:05] <DrGrov> linuxuz3r: It is a nVidia GTS 250 1GB. But the problem is if I enable the nVidia drivers they will segfault and completely throw me out to the login screen on a daily basis.
[12:05] <linuxuz3r> i guess
[12:05] <DrGrov> So that is why I keep using the Nouveau drivers.
[12:05] <freevil> DrGrov, have you tried blacklisting nouveau drivers
[12:05] <petoo> HI
[12:06] <linuxuz3r> DrGrov, https://www.google.com/search?q=dpkg-reconfigure+xserver-xorg&aq=1&oq=dpkg-reconfigure+&aqs=chrome.2.57j0l3.12369j0&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
[12:06] <DrGrov> linuxuz3r: Thank you, will do that.
[12:06] <linuxuz3r> wait that might be for xserver
[12:08] <DrGrov> linuxuz3r: The problem is though I can not get my screen to work at all, it says without signal.
[12:08] <linuxuz3r> are you in noveua?
[12:08] <linuxuz3r> did it work the first time you boot ubuntu?
[12:09] <linuxuz3r> maybe you could just copy xorg.conf in ubuntu cd
[12:09] <linuxuz3r> live dvd i mean if it has it
[12:10] <DrGrov> linuxuz3r: Ok, I will copy it from the live CD. Not finding any xorg.conf here though.
[12:11] <linuxuz3r> DrGrov, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1746908
[12:19] <Maelstrom_> why is it that the new ubuntu "start button" looks like the inside of a barrel?
[12:19] <mx8manger> hello guys i need help so badly :(
[12:19] <mx8manger> i had windows 7
[12:19] <mx8manger> and just now fnished installing ubuntu 12.04 lts
[12:19] <Maelstrom_> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/04/clockwise-ubuntu-logo-button
[12:19] <mx8manger> during the installtion
[12:20] <mx8manger> i choosed to install the grub in the windows boot loader
[12:20] <mx8manger> drive
[12:20] <mx8manger> and now i cant boot my windows what is the problem
[12:20] <mx8manger> my cdrom is broken and i only have 2 gb
[12:21] <mx8manger> so how i can boot windows 7 again
[12:21] <Maelstrom_> #windows
[12:21] <mx8manger> plz?
[12:21] <Maelstrom_> ##windows
[12:23] <trent_> can someone tell me how to apply this patch im new to ubuntu using 12.10 https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_external_guava/commit/c8b97210aa31c9b80b5fd136d8617ebe4e731e09
[12:27] <tami> Ubuntu doesn't recognize my Bluetooth mouse. Can anybody help?
[12:29] <wNz> trent_: git pull?
[12:29] <wNz> trent_: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/appy-patch-file-using-patch-command/
[12:29] <wNz> perhaps that?
[12:33] <usr13> tami: more than likely hardware issue.
[12:34] <trent_> @wNz i dont quite understand all that can you give me the commnad line stuff?
[12:34] <tami> usr13: thanks. anything i can do about it?
[12:35] <tami> usr13: windows recognizes it fine on the same computer
[12:35] <usr13> tami: Try unpllugging and plugging it back in again.
[12:35] <usr13> tami: Try another USB port
[12:36] <usr13> tami: Try on-off switch.
[12:36] <Maelstrom_> if nothing works try the trash bin
[12:37] <soporte> usb v1.0  / v 2.0  ?
[12:37] <Draxelis> 2 days left !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[12:37] <usr13> !java | trent_
[12:37] <dilim> Hi folks
[12:39] <dilim> need help, seems my ubuntu 12.10 is broken. My Ubuntu Software Center no longer loads up, always crashes and executing sudo apt-get update  from a terminal shows errors
[12:39] <DrGrov> Still no luck, I get into GRUB and I can select recovery mode. Tried deleting the xorg.conf completely but still no luck somehow. It still does not recognize my monitor.
[12:41] <usr13> dilim: sudo apt-get update
[12:41] <usr13> dilim: sudo apt-get install -f
[12:42] <usr13> dilim: Tell us what errors it shows.
[12:42] <betrayd> DrGrov: did the screen work in the live CD
[12:42] <DrGrov> betrayd: Yes, it works brilliantly on the live CD of 11.04 64-bit.
[12:43] <betrayd> DrGrov: you'll have to see what driver it used for livesession then
[12:43] <betrayd> imo
[12:43] <DrGrov> betrayd: It uses nouveau
[12:43] <linux1> 1111
[12:43] <DrGrov> And I had it working last night without issues, then at 1920x1080 but not the 1360x768 I get now. I did modeline for 1920x1080 and it worked well.
[12:44] <linux1> hello everyone
[12:44] <Rim3nX> Need simple volume control applet for awesome wm which I installed on ubuntu server... Someone ?
[12:44] <karthick87> How do i list all installed packages in ubuntu excluding the dependencies ??
[12:45] <usr13> Rim3nX: alsamixer
[12:46] <trent_> @ <ubottu> looks like i allready have that in stalled
[12:46] <betrayd> DrGrov: what are we missing, something must have changed
[12:46] <betrayd> the log will tell us
[12:46] <betrayd> logs
[12:47] <Rim3nX> usr13: alsamixer is not an applet, it's TUI volume control... I need some for system try as an volume icon for fast volume control
[12:47] <DrGrov> betrayd: Yes, I hope something will tell since it is not working well. What logs do you need? I can not get them though while running a live CD?
[12:47] <betrayd> you probably can, but i got to go soon.
[12:48] <betrayd> have to mount unless they alreay are, in /media
[12:48] <DrGrov> betrayd: No worries.
[12:48] <DrGrov> betrayd: I will somehow fix it, I will look through the logs.
[12:49] <betrayd> DrGrov: you *did* insatll nvidia-current though?
[12:49] <usr13> karthick87: ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/*list  or  cd /var/lib/dpkg/  and then ls *list
[12:50] <DrGrov> betrayd: No, I can not use nvidia-current since it segfaults with Chrome/Chromium/Firefox and all other browsers and makes my system useless. It throws me out to the login screen on a frequent basis.
[12:51] <usr13> Rim3nX: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10739390/how-to-programmatically-change-volume-in-ubuntu
[12:51] <betrayd> DrGrov: i see, nobody there bothered to fix
[12:52] <DrGrov> betrayd: Yes, it is irritating but I manage with nouveau anyhow. I just want my screen somehow back now :) I deal with the resolution later once I get the screenback.
[12:52] <Potato> Hello everyone
[12:54] <Rim3nX> usr13: is there any simple solution like gnome-volume-applet that is on gnome ? btw, I can't install it now, it's not in reps.
[12:55] <Potato> I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask, but I've been experiencing screen tearing in Ubuntu 12.04 on my new PC. I have the latest nVidia driver, but I stille experience tearing everywhere.
[12:55] <petoo> Potato: screen tearing?
[12:56] <Potato> petoo: Yes, there are lines going across my screen all the time tearing up the frames.
[12:57] <Potato> petoo: I'm guessing this is related to my BIOS and boot screen not being the right resolution.
[12:57] <betrayd> is it at the native resolution your screen supports
[12:57] <petoo> Not sure what's causing it , Potato .
[12:57] <deepin> Hi,everyone i have a problem about bash.bashrc: whe i use vim in gnome-shell ,it can't auto complete the command.
[12:57] <autobot> POTATO!
[12:57] <Potato> betrayd: Yes, it is.
[12:58] <drkat> http://pastebin.com/U5F7NLMA - Any ideas? I seem to be pegging the CPU's but I am not seeing any processes using up much
[12:58] <betrayd> Potato: BIOs and boot only?
[12:59] <betrayd> Potato: even X?
[12:59] <Potato> betrayd: Only what? Without the nVidia driver installed, everything is at the wrong resolution. BIOS, splash and even Linux installation. Only Windows (minus installation) has worked correctly.
[13:00] <deepin> Hi,everyone i have a problem about bash.bashrc: whe i use vim in gnome-shell ,it can't auto complete the command.
[13:00] <petoo> I had problems with 12.04, but it was because of hard disk. It used to crash the OS.
[13:01] <betrayd> Potato: does nvidia server settings let you set rez you can say 1440x900@freq for example in there
[13:01] <petoo> But I don't think its anywhere close to your problem.
[13:01] <petoo> *My Screen used to freeze.*
[13:02] <Potato> betrayd: The Display Config is set to auto resolution, and I can't edit the settings because I'm not "root"
[13:02] <Potato> betrayd: Do you know how to enable root login?
[13:02] <betrayd> yes I gave him a real password
[13:02] <deepin> sudo -i?
[13:03] <deepin> sudo -i ?
[13:03] <Potato> deepin: isn't that only in terminal?
[13:03] <Pici> !gksudo
[13:03] <deepin> :Ptotato: yes
[13:04] <betrayd> the other way is to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf (after naking a backup copy of course)
[13:04] <tom_> hi
[13:04] <Potato> ubottu: I don't know the name of the Nvidia x server application
[13:04] <tom_> hello ,whar are you talking about?
[13:05] <betrayd> Potato: it might appear on the menu if you are logged in as root
[13:05] <Potato> tom_: screen tearing
[13:05] <Potato> betrayd: I don't know how to login in as root >:I
[13:05] <tom_> su
[13:05] <tom_> sudo passwd root
[13:05] <Pici> !noroot
[13:06] <Potato> I've already set a root password, but how do I enable root user login?
[13:07] <petoo> !wfm
[13:07] <tom_> you can't ,it fobid user login as root from recently version
[13:07] <petoo> !root
[13:07] <tom_> where are you from guys?
[13:07] <betrayd> or there should be something in control center? control panel?
[13:08] <Potato> petoo: The command wfm doesn't exist
[13:08] <Botreak> hi can somebody help me with tp-link?
[13:08] <PigOnTheWings> can some1 help me, I set my theme over MyUnity but sometimes it randomly changes
[13:08] <petoo> wfm = works for me
[13:08] <tom_> can you type your country , i am from China
[13:08] <Potato> petoo: What works for you?
[13:08] <petoo> tom_: #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:09] <chunkyhead> how to backup all my apps on ubuntu?
[13:09] <betrayd> !ot > tom_
[13:09] <eni23> hello at all. mabye someone can help me. im trying to setup an ntp-server. my problem now is that the server stucks at stratum 16 and dont sync with pool.ntp.org
[13:09] <tom_> ok
[13:10] <Botreak> i need help with it cuz i want steam but im on 10.04 because my wifi adapter doesnt work on 12.04 for some reason
[13:10] <petoo> Potato: I think somebody already told you about enabling root.
[13:10] <petoo> It's just a matter of googling , and the first link I got https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[13:11] <helpme> how to exculde trash
[13:12] <tom_> WhoIs
[13:15] <ayonensade> how to exclude trash
[13:15] <ayonensade> tar cvpzf backup.tgz --exclude=/proc --exclude=/lost+found --exclude=/backup.tgz --exclude=/media/MASA1 --exclude=/proc--exclude=/mnt --one-file-system --exclude=/sys /
[13:15] <ayonensade> i need to exculde trash too so how?
[13:15] <ayonensade> to just add --exclude=/trash   ?
[13:16] <ayonensade> is anyone hir
[13:17] <Potato> I successfully modified my X Server settings, but the splash and BIOS are still not the correct resolution, and there's still excessive screen tearing.
[13:17] <ayonensade> anyone
[13:18] <betrayd> Potato: see if the logs indicte if your graphics chip is listed
[13:18] <ayonensade> and how to reload theme
[13:19] <Potato> betrayd: What's the command to show these logs?
[13:19] <betrayd> i use more u can use less
[13:19] <Potato> betrayd: ?
[13:19] <betrayd> even on a tty
[13:19] <betrayd> 'more' buddy
[13:20] <Potato> betrayd: My Graphics Processor is GeForce GTX 660.
[13:20] <betrayd> don't tell me, look at your log
[13:20] <Potato> betrayd: I don't have a log.
[13:20] <DeltaHeavy> Why does paste.ubuntu.com not accept any PHP scripts?
[13:20] <betrayd> you're not looking mr Potato
[13:21] <betrayd> more /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[13:21] <betrayd> theres a start
[13:21] <Botreak> can anyone help me with wifi on ubuntu
[13:23] <chunkyhead> how to backup all my successfully installed packages on ubuntu?
[13:24] <Potato> betrayd: It seems like it "[    24.333] (II) NVIDIA(0): NVIDIA GPU GeForce GTX 660 (GK106) at PCI:1:0:0 (GPU-0)"
[13:25] <betrayd> Potato: then also check if your edit shows up there
[13:25] <betrayd> Potato: that its being picked up
[13:26] <Potato> betrayd: My settings were 1920x1080 60Hz, so seems like it: "Option "MetaModes" "1920x1080_60 +0+0"
[13:26] <betrayd> Potato: i'd make a copy of that log and a screenshot, seems to be a legit nvidia support/tech issue
[13:27] <betrayd> Potato: and thats as far as we can go I think
[13:27] <Potato> betrayd: There's some /X11 "This directory does not exist" errors.
[13:27] <betrayd> Potato: at the == line it tells you where its picking up xorg.conf
[13:28] <betrayd> use / to search
[13:28] <betrayd> Potato: learn to tell if it's WW or EE errors
[13:30] <DeltaHeavy> Why does paste.ubuntu.com not accept any PHP scripts?
[13:30] <Potato> betrayd: They're WW errors. I read somewhere that these cyrillic and dpi errors are related to a video card misconfiguration or a hardware recognition failure.
[13:30] <betrayd> wouldn't worry about WW Potato
[13:31] <betrayd> as long as it's picking the right xorg.conf (scan for ==)
[13:31] <betrayd> the one with your edit in it
[13:31] <Potato> betrayd: it is.
[13:32] <betrayd> so thats it. You'd have to contact nvidia at this point with that log and a screenshot attached
[13:32] <betrayd> thats as far as we can go with binary blobs
[13:32] <betrayd> i'd use nouveau or a lower resolution in the meantime
[13:32] <betrayd> or live CDs
[13:33] <Potato> betrayd: I'm also having problems with Linux picking up my camera, but not displaying anything in camera applications.
[13:33] <Potato> betrayd: I've heard that might be related to the graphics card too.
[13:33] <betrayd> yes possible but also look at dmesg if its even detected
[13:34] <prappl93> I have a quick question. I'm putting the pre-release of Raring Ringtail on my computer, and I haven't used the pre-releases before, but when the full release comes out it should be easy to upgrade to that, right?
[13:34] <betrayd> then google for linux and that cam model
[13:34] <betrayd> Potato: ^
[13:34] <theadmin> prappl93: Yes, just update all the packages.
[13:34] <Dr_willis> prappl93,  yes. thats a feature of the pacjkage manager system
[13:34] <Potato> betrayd: It does regonize the camera, it's mount on /video0.
[13:35] <Dr_willis> prappl93,  update the day BEFOR the release... then hang on for a week after the release befor you update again. ;) the servers may be dog slow for a few days after release
[13:35] <betrayd> good, once the kinks are ironed out in the driver, you should be able to capture video Potato
[13:35] <prappl93> Dr_willis: I know, hence why I'm updating now so I can start getting used to the changes.
[13:35] <Dr_willis> prappl93,  i havent really noticed any major changes to get used to.
[13:36] <Dr_willis> just lots of little polish and tweaks
[13:36] <prappl93> Thanks for the quickness in response, guys. Haven't used pre-release before, and I was hoping that it would be easy to go from that straight to full.
[13:36] <prappl93> Is there a confirmed release for Raring yet?
[13:37] <prappl93> Well, date anyway
[13:37] <chunkyhead> how to backup all my successfully installed packages on ubuntu?
[13:37] <Dr_willis> it can always get delayed.. but i think it was the 25th
[13:37] <prappl93> That's what I heard too, just wondering if they have said for sure yet.
[13:37] <Dr_willis> chunkyhead,  you can get a list of whats installed..but theres not really an easy way to convert the  installed stuff back to .deb packages with out redownloading them all
[13:37] <Dr_willis> !clone
[13:38] <vekexasia> ùiHello all i've 200€ for someone that will help me understand why a server with ubuntu12.10 freezes.
[13:38] <Potato> I ran "dmesg | grep -i usb" and got: http://pastebin.com/a8VBb9JA. A whole bunch of "Not enough bandwidth" errors.
[13:39] <benjick> Hi. I've installed apache and suphp via apt-get. Now I get this error:  ParsingException in Configuration.cpp:163: Unknown option "doctoor" in section
[13:39] <benjick> 0 results on google
[13:39] <crash_cy> Can anyone point me to documentation for what my laptop beeping and flashing caps/num lock indicators could mean?  I'm not sure if this is determined by the OS (running Ubuntu 12.10) or the BIOS
[13:39] <Potato> betrayd: This is the output of "dmesg | grep -i usb" http://pastebin.com/a8VBb9JA.
[13:39] <Dr_willis> crash_cy,  it would be a Bios/mb  feature
[13:39] <prappl93> Potato: betrayd just left the chat.
[13:39] <chunkyhead> Dr_willis, downloading them would take alot of time :\
[13:40] <Dr_willis> crash_cy,  unless its crashing after grub loads.
[13:40] <Potato> prappi93: oh
[13:40] <jrib> benjick: you should say what you did to get that erro
[13:40] <crash_cy> Dr_willis it is shutting itself off, but varies a bit on how long before it does
[13:40] <Dr_willis> chunkyhead,  this is why the service 'apt-cacher-ng' is often used  to cache things for the whole lan
[13:40] <crash_cy> Generally I make it to the desktop but can't really open anything from there before it has shut down
[13:40] <benjick> jrib: I installed apache2, suphp and php5-cgi. I uploaded a website and tried to visit it. I got that error in the logs.
[13:41] <Dr_willis> chunkyhead,  you got stuff in your apt cache. but it wont be EVERYTHING. and it can also be outdated by the time you reinstall the other system.
[13:41] <Nyger> Hi - I'm trying to install php 5.3.4+ on my ubuntu virtual server and have troubles with aptitude. Someone willing to help?
[13:41] <Dr_willis> crash_cy,  start with the basics and give the fans a good dusting out, make sure they are working.. then see if text mode works.. and if its stable in text mode.
[13:42] <chunkyhead> i am going to reinstall ubuntu alot of issues with unity after i installed cairo dock. so basically i need to get all the packages back. won't be able to cache them over lan Dr_willis
[13:42] <Dr_willis> crash_cy,  then monitor the heat of the system if its iverheating
[13:42] <jrib> benjick: you should give a lot more details.  Basically make it so someone else could recreate what you did.
[13:42] <Dr_willis> chunkyhead,  thats odd. I have no issues with Cairo Dock alongside unity.
[13:42] <Nyger> I found this KB article, but I don't have add-apt-repository on my instance installed somehow
[13:43] <crash_cy> Dr_willis, will do.  Does Ubuntu have a way of monitoring heat built in, or do I need to find an app for that?
[13:43] <Dr_willis> chunkyhead,  if they are not in the cache they will get auto-downloaded as needed. you dont really  install an app.. remove its deb.. then somehow rebuild the deb from the system.. (seen that done on android, but not linux)
[13:43] <benjick> It's a brand new install, that's all I did, I'm not really sure what to expand on. But I saw now I didn't do an upgrade, so I'll try that and come back
[13:43] <prappl93> Well, thanks for the answer to my question guys! I'm gonna head out now
[13:43] <Dr_willis> !sensors | crash_cy
[13:43] <Pici> Nyger: install the python-software-properties package
[13:43] <Nyger> sorry forgot the link: http://askubuntu.com/questions/109404/how-do-i-install-latest-php-in-supported-ubuntu-versions-like-5-4-x-in-ubuntu-1
[13:44] <crash_cy> Thanks for the help guys, I'll see what I find out
[13:44] <Nyger> Pici: And then?
[13:44] <Pici> Nyger: and then add-apt-repository should be available to you
[13:45] <chunkyhead> Dr_willis, i had removed cairo but now it's messed up unity. i can't login unity 3d, i've to login cairo (which i had removed idk how it's still there, yes i removed --purge d it) and unity --reset and wait for ages to unity to reset itself
[13:46] <Dr_willis> chunkyhead,  try making a new user. see if they have the same issue.. if they DONT have the same issue. then its a user setting issue, not a system issue.
[13:47] <chunkyhead> same issue there Dr_willis can't see unity interface there. tried that
[13:47] <Dr_willis> thers a lot of issues where the 3d drivers get confused/unity/compiz get confused and unity only half loads..
[13:47] <Dr_willis> never really seen a definitive fix, or answer as to why it does it
[13:47] <chunkyhead> it isn't showing unity interface where i can login in it
[13:48] <chunkyhead> ^ Dr_willis
[13:48] <Nyger> Pici: thanks a lot, that worked.
[13:49] <Dr_willis> chunkyhead,  you mean the Lightdm login screen? thats the login screen.
[13:49] <chunkyhead> yeah, when we click on the icon top right of the login box, we can choose the interface there, right? unity isn't listed there only cairo is idk how or hwy
[13:50] <theadmin> chunkyhead: Log in to a virtual terminal (Ctrl-Alt-F2) and do "sudo apt-get --reinstall install ubuntu-desktop", which shall get you the default Ubuntu system packages (nothing will be removed, though)
[13:51] <Dr_willis> chunkyhead,  lightdm has a icon just to the right of the login name field. If Unity is missing from there, You may want to reinstall the 'ubuntu-desktop' package
[13:51] <chunkyhead> theadmin, let me give that  a try, just asking i'd installed dolphin, and other explorers you had recommened and had later on removed them and reinstalled nautius back on. can this make any difference?
[13:52] <chunkyhead> Dr_willis, ^
[13:52] <theadmin> chunkyhead: Hm, dunno honestly, doubt it.
[13:52] <Dr_willis> i rarely remove anything.. i dont see the point in it.. unless you are short of hd space
[13:52] <chunkyhead> thought so
[13:52] <chunkyhead> Dr_willis, yeah like i said earlier have bit of an OCD
[13:52] <Dr_willis> I got kubuntu-desktop, lubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop all installed on the system
[13:52] <Dr_willis> time to learn to get over it...
[13:53] <chunkyhead> Dr_willis, but then too many application slow down the computer. :\
[13:53] <Dr_willis> chunkyhead,  no... to many apps RUNNING at the same time will use more cpu...
[13:53] <Dr_willis> many apps Installed.. take up HD space.
[13:53] <Botreak> can anybody help me with wifi adapter usb?
[13:54] <chunkyhead> more HD space, more data access time :\ Dr_willis
[13:54] <theadmin> chunkyhead: That makes no sense, you know
[13:54] <Dr_willis> chunkyhead,  not really..
[13:54] <chunkyhead> theadmin, Dr_willis i am a computer engineer. i know :|
[13:55] <theadmin> chunkyhead: UNIX filesystems hardly fragment -- that'd be the case with Windows, yeah, because NTFS is such NTFS
[13:55] <Botreak> i agree with chucky
[13:55] <Dr_willis> chunkyhead,  i think you are confused..
[13:55] <chunkyhead> brb i'll let u know gtg have some soup
[13:55] <Dr_willis> if its loading unity desktop.. it dosent matter if you got kde installed or not.. its still just loading unity stuff
[13:56] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:57] <DrGrov> Does anyone know how to help me to restore my xorg.conf to a standard default one? I can not still boot into 12.04, it just says it can not show the screen.
[13:57] <chunkyhead> back, ok tell me if your disk is 500GB you fresh format it and then install an OS and then you don't install any packages on it for abt say 1 year, over that period of time you end up storing alot of data on it and your HD is almost full. will your PC run as smooth as it used to when it was first installed?
[13:57] <Dr_willis> DrGrov,  by default there is no xorg.conf - X auto configures these days
[13:57] <Dr_willis> chunkyhead,  on ubuntu/linux - yes.
[13:58] <chunkyhead> Dr_willis, in my experience no. :\
[13:58] <DrGrov> Dr_willis: Yes, I know. I stumbled upon a serious issue today. It did not show me any signal from my TV and I did not intentionally at least do any changes to Xorg.conf. I have to have Xorg.conf in order to get my TV screen running at 1920x1080 and not just 1360x768.
[13:58] <Dr_willis> if your OS is using 20gb.. and you put on 80gb of video files.. on a 100gb hd.. it will still be the same
[13:58] <Dr_willis> chunkyhead,  in my experience - it is the same..
[13:59] <chunkyhead> idk then..
[13:59] <Dr_willis> with your logic.. a 10gb installed os - would run slower on a 15gb hd... then a 10000gb hd.. just because of the HD size..
[14:00] <Dr_willis> of course if you want best speeds..  get a SSD these days. ;)
[14:00] <Dr_willis> then a lot of the rules change
[14:00] <Coldfire202> damn.
[14:00] <Coldfire202> I need help when I get home.
[14:00] <chunkyhead> no no Dr_willis not that. over a period of time the disk gets fragmented. think of a linked list first node is stored at data loc 100 other at 10000 other at 10 hence it takes time for the head to reach those cells hence the difference in speed
[14:01] <yoojinp> Excuse me, would somebody like to perform xrdb -query -all to let me see what a 'normal' output looks like?
[14:01] <chunkyhead> on the other hand when you fresh install everything is pretty much together and hence fastest
[14:01] <Dr_willis> chunkyhead,  ive never had an issue with ext2/3/4 fragmenting
[14:01] <iceroot> chunkyhead: fragmenation is a problem for fat and ntfs but not ext
[14:01] <Dr_willis> and if the os files dont change/move - then they wont get fragmented in the first place.
[14:01] <chunkyhead> not the OS files lol. i said data Dr_willis
[14:01] <Dr_willis> there are ext2/3/4 defragmenting tools.. but ive never used them
[14:01] <DrGrov> Dr_willis: Should I post my xorg.conf just in case?
[14:02] <iceroot> Dr_willis: there are virusscanners for GNu/Linux-Desktops too. its useful like the fragmentation tools
[14:02] <Dr_willis> You said the OS would get slower.. why would it slow down if unread data/video files are fragmented or not?
[14:02] <chunkyhead> my bad. OS as in the response time to access a location would increase, slow in that sense
[14:03] <Dr_willis> if you are that worried about it all.. run one of those defragment tools and  se eif it helps
[14:03] <chunkyhead> that takes a lot of time on a disk with memory in TBs :|
[14:03] <yoojinp> Dr_willis: I suppose distance from the two farthest points on the drive, filewise. Physically a millisecond or so? xD
[14:03] <iceroot> chunkyhead: have a look what ext2/3/4 is and how it is managing the data then you will see that fragmentation is not an issue for that filesystems
[14:03] <theadmin> Guys, this has *nothing* to do with Ubuntu, please get back on topic
[14:03] <chunkyhead> iceroot, Dr_willis ok i can't comment much on ext fs coz i am not used it extensively nor do i know how it stores
[14:03] <chunkyhead> probably you're right then
[14:04] <Dr_willis> i belive most everyone in this channel has never needed to defragment their ubuntu boxs ;)
[14:04] <wilee-nilee> cough fsck
[14:04] <chunkyhead> i hope you're right Dr_willis :)
[14:04] <yoojinp> Actually, I really need to know what the normal output of xrdb -query -all looks like. I ran xrdb to update the configuration without opting to append. Instead the files were deleted.
[14:04] <yoojinp> Contents* were deleted.
[14:04] <theadmin> wilee-nilee: That's not defragmentation, that's checking for FS damage
[14:05] <Dr_willis> DrGrov,  you could try just move/renameing the xorg.conf and see if not having one helps
[14:05] <chunkyhead> but afaik (from what i have experienced) ubuntu has become slow for me. bootup time was <10 initially now it takes more than 30secs, but i am guessing that's due to the loads of apps i install everyday hence i feel the need to remove them too :\
[14:05] <DrGrov> Dr_willis: Okay, I could do that. I just wonder why it did work last night at 1920x1080. Probably some minor issue after all :)
[14:05] <Dr_willis> i dont really worry about 30 sec boot times.. when i got 30+day uptimes.
[14:05] <theadmin> chunkyhead: If apps are daemons, that could be the reason, other than that...
[14:06] <chunkyhead> and it's been more than 1hr since unity --reset was started, still hasn't finished my tty isn't free so i can install unity desktop :| theadmin Dr_willis
[14:06] <theadmin> chunkyhead: Ctrl-C or use another tty
[14:06] <BluesKaj> chunkyhead, it helps to run autoremove and autoclean periodically to remove old files that are no longer used
[14:06] <zach> Hi everyone. I'm using Ubuntu 13.04 on a macbook pro that was purchased about 1.5 or 2 months ago. I seem to have most things finally working, but I cannot get sound to work. How can I diagnose this problem and ultimately solve it?
[14:06] <yoojinp> chunkyhead, what about CTRL-ALT-[F1-F6]?
[14:07] <iceroot> zach: #ubuntu+1
[14:07] <chunkyhead> i always wanted to ask this what's daemon. BlueEagle in what reference are you talking yoojin i am just saying unity --reset is taking alot of time :)
[14:07] <theadmin> chunkyhead: Windows term for "daemon" is "service" if that makes sense to you :P
[14:07] <teamblack> ¡
[14:07] <chunkyhead> theadmin, ah.. thanks
[14:07] <felon> hi, i recently install 10.04 and for some reason it wont detect my widescreen lcd monitor, and my Display is cut off, im stuck at 1024x768 (4:3), using a Nvidia 6200 PCI
[14:07] <theadmin> chunkyhead: Basically an app that runs on bootup and then goes to background, providing extra possibilities, e.g. running servers
[14:07] <teamblack> ey
[14:07] <teamblack> alguno on
[14:07] <teamblack> xd
[14:08] <chunkyhead> theadmin, i dont install any daemons as such i wonder why my computer has become slow then :\
[14:08] <zach> iceroot: Is #ubuntu+1 for people ahead of the most stable release?
[14:08] <DrGrov> Dr_willis: I already removed it once though and did nothing to help :/ Isn't there any universal X resetter or something that I could work with? I get into GRUB but I can not then write to the file system any commands
[14:08] <iceroot> zach: #ubuntu+1 is the channel for ubuntu versions which are still a beta and not a final release
[14:08] <teamblack> ey
[14:09] <corpoalumno> oe
[14:09] <zach> iceroot: Thanks very much!
[14:09] <teamblack> I have comunyte dofus black xd
[14:09] <corpoalumno> s
[14:09] <corpoalumno> s
[14:09] <corpoalumno> s
[14:09] <FloodBot1> corpoalumno: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:10] <teamblack> Mans not quick corpo alumno
[14:10] <teamblack> man
[14:10] <teamblack> Not kik corpoalumo
[14:10] <teamblack> its testing the fllod
[14:10] <teamblack> nothing more
[14:10] <teamblack> who is the adm this chat?
[14:10] <Pici> teamblack: This is a support channel. Not somewhere to test our floodbots.
[14:10] <teamblack> I know
[14:11] <teamblack> okey.. that do here ?
[14:11] <antimix> #reprap
[14:12] <teamblack> omg alguno habla español ?
[14:12] <lisak> hey, how come I have $ssh-add -l     empty ? Isn't supposed to add ~/.id_dsa  by default ?
[14:12] <teamblack> omg alguno habla español ?
[14:12] <lisak> or am I supposed to do it myself
[14:12] <wilee-nilee> !es | teamblack
[14:14] <wilee-nilee> felon, the 10.04 desktop is end of life on may 9th, you may want a later release.
[14:15] <Yonny> I have 2 hard disks, one Ubuntu on each one (10.04 + 12.04), and after installing the new Pangolin, the machine keeps booting through grub of the old ubuntu (10.04). I can see all the "new, correct" entries in the new grub.cfg on the Pangolin partition , though, can I just copy them over and add them to the old-still-active grub.cfg, that is actually the one loading right now, and then have that one start the desired OS? (I would rather not have to change anyth
[14:15] <Yonny> ing in the bios/boot order, in case sda suddenly becomes sdb, which makes problems with mount points etc. in the old Ubuntu, which I will need for a while yet)
[14:15] <DrGrov> Dr_willis: How would I get rid of Xorg.conf completely then and skip using them completely?
[14:16] <jrib> Yonny: the 10.04 grub will find your 12.04 install if you run update-grub
[14:17] <Yonny> jrib: but then I have to start that old ubuntu, and right now, a couple of the sdx-numbers have changed, so I rather not start the old ubuntu  before I have all those pointers correct in both the boot loader and in for example FStab...
[14:17] <Fuzzles> how come i cant get my graphics driver from additional drivers anymore?
[14:17] <jrib> Yonny: you should be using UUIDs anyway, not sdX
[14:18] <chunkyhead> i desperately need to remove cairo dock guys. really getting on my nerves. any ideas?
[14:18] <iceroot> Fuzzles: which ubuntu version?
[14:18] <Yonny> jrib: I just want to get "safely" into the new Pangolin install, and continue fixing this from there...
[14:18] <wilee-nilee> Yonny, Which ubuntu do you want to control the grub menu?
[14:18] <jrib> Yonny: so run update-grub on 10.04
[14:18] <Fuzzles> iceroot, well was 12.04 which it used to show before i reinstalled now im on 13.04
[14:18] <teamblack> Mans
[14:19] <iceroot> Fuzzles: #ubuntu+1
[14:19] <iceroot> Fuzzles: that is still a beta version
[14:19] <teamblack> Alguno me colabora con un anti ddos en php ¡
[14:19] <Yonny> wilee-nilee: the new Pangolin one, the one I want to try to get into (first) now
[14:19] <Fuzzles> iceroot, it happened in 12.04 as well
[14:19] <wilee-nilee> Yonny, You just need the pangolin HD first in the bios and its grub in its mbr.
[14:20] <wilee-nilee> Yonny, AS of now when you boot which OS is at the top of the grub menu?
[14:20] <Yonny> wilee-nilee: so I would like to put that Pangolin at the top of the other grub menu that it booting at the moment, just as a workaround... I think I can massage the entry into there according to the old grub syntax (the two grub.cfg files are very different between 10.04 and 12.04)
[14:21] <jrib> Yonny: either run update-grub on 10.04 or change the boot order (which you said you didn't want to do) :/
[14:22] <wilee-nilee> Yonny, This is grub 2 it will automatically ad other OS's, so you just install the 12.04 grub boot to its mbr, it is probably already there and have it be read first in the bios.
[14:22] <Yonny> wilee-nilee: I know I can change the boot order in bios, but I am afraid then the sda/sdb also changes, which will give me problems later when I want to boot the old ubuntu which depends on the old order..., not sure if it is a good thing to keep changing that back and forth, as I see several comments about "unpredictable results"/orders regarding sda/sdb, etc...
[14:22] <wilee-nilee> Yonny, They will not change, that makes no sense.
[14:23] <jrib> Yonny: like I said, you should be using UUIDs unless you've done something strange
[14:23] <Yonny> wilee-nilee: ok, so you are saying that if I alter the boot order in the BIOS, the old ubuntu will continue to see the same disk as sda afterwards? (then it is ok...)
[14:23] <BluesKaj> Yonny, stop objecting and listen advice that is known to work
[14:24] <Yonny> BluesKaj: I am not objecting, I am careful to make sure I see the various side-effects before I choose how to proceed...
[14:24] <wilee-nilee> Yonny, Use UUID's as suggested first not /dev/sdXX in fstab do you know how to do this?
[14:25] <uvala> is there a user survey software in ubuntu repos?
[14:25] <BluesKaj> you're careful to a fault , you don't trust ppl's advice then go elsewhere, Yonny
[14:25] <RishabhTatiraju> Can anybody help me here with an internet problem?
[14:26] <Yonny> jrib: yes, I know I should use UUID in fstab, but when I added some lines there a while ago, I could not figure out the correct syntax or where exactly to put that statement (specific order on each line, before or after some other "none"/"1"/"0" args, etc., so I ended up with the sdx-thingy, which I know is vulnerable...
[14:26] <wilee-nilee> RishabhTatiraju, Just state your problem if someone knows they will answer, give details. ;)
[14:27] <chunkyhead> is gnome 3.8 out for ubuntu yet?
[14:27] <Yonny> BluesKaj: well, I need to finish asking the questions before I am sure, then I will take the advices. It seems that you are sure you know everything relevant in my setup so you simply cannot be at risk of giving wrong advice based on assumptions that is not true on my machine?
[14:29] <Yonny> wilee-nilee: if I post one of the lines I have in my fstab, can you provide the correct way of doing that with UUID? Maybe that is the easiest way.
[14:29] <RishabhTatiraju> Okay well i cannot access certain websites which i could access in Windows. I am running Ubuntu 12.10. I have even tried changing DNS servers but that does not help.
[14:29] <wilee-nilee> Yonny, The problem here is your not understanding some basic information and having theories based on user errors, that are faulty.
[14:30] <uvala> wilee-nilee, is there a user survey software in ubuntu repos?
[14:30] <wilee-nilee> Yonny, fstab is very basic there is information all over the web.
[14:31] <RishabhTatiraju> anyone>
[14:31] <RishabhTatiraju> ?
[14:32] <wilee-nilee> uvala, I don't know and the web is your best way of finding out not this channel. https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=user+survey+software+ubuntu&btnG=Google+Search&gbv=1
[14:32] <wilee-nilee> RishabhTatiraju, Post one of the pages.
[14:32] <BluesKaj> RishabhTatiraju, never heard of a problem accessing websites on linux vs windows
[14:33] <Crckh34d> Hello!
[14:33] <RishabhTatiraju> Page 1: www.eotr.tk
[14:33] <Yonny> wilee-nilee: here is one of the lines in my FStab, which I am afraid I will not be able to change into the proper UUID syntax:
[14:33] <Yonny> /dev/sda6       /media/SOFTARCH   ntfs       joe,jill,admin2
[14:33] <uvala> wilee-nilee, I did google search, there seems no tool. hence referred here if anyone knows one
[14:33] <Crckh34d> tool for what??
[14:33] <wilee-nilee> RishabhTatiraju, shows fine here, are you using a proxy?
[14:33] <Crckh34d> srry just joint in..
[14:33] <RishabhTatiraju> I use the dns servers of Google
[14:33] <RishabhTatiraju> no proxy used
[14:33] <wilee-nilee> uvala, Look at my link.
[14:35] <RishabhTatiraju> wilee-nilee: No proxy used, i use the dns provided by google
[14:35] <Yonny> jrib: here is one of the example lines I would like to change to UUID format: "/dev/sda6       /media/SOFTARCH   ntfs       joe,jill,admin2"
[14:35] <RishabhTatiraju> I use a PPPoE DSL Connection
[14:36] <bananapie> ok, so I am running freeswitch 1.2.7 comiled on debian 6. When it receives a re-INVITE for t38, it passes it to sofia "2013-04-23 10:33:20.246850 [DEBUG] sofia.c:5597 Channel sofia/external/4188002815 entering state [received][100]
[14:36] <bananapie> 2013-04-23 10:33:20.246850 [DEBUG] sofia.c:5608 Remote SDP:
[14:36] <bananapie> ". But sofia does nothing, no answer or anything. I am using default configs + minor changes to dialplan to make the test call.
[14:36] <RishabhTatiraju> Even this does not work: http://125.21.185.44/citywx/city_weather1.php?id=43063
[14:36] <Honksu> Hi! I have a bit of a problem on ubuntu server 12.04.2 64bit with a ext4 partition containing root filesystem. I have about 49Gb used space and no idea what is consuming it. I have output of commands "df -h" and "sudo du -h --max-depth=1 /" and here is the output: http://pastebin.com/jWkKaZKP
[14:36] <RishabhTatiraju> That worked yesterday, so it may be a server problem
[14:36] <BluesKaj> RishabhTatiraju, might have something to do with your location, maybe eqiufax canada won't load pages fro queries from india
[14:36] <jrib> Yonny: those seem like strange entries in the options field but I may just not be familiar with ntfs options.  To use UUID, just find the uuid (see ubottu) and then change "/dev/sda6" to "UUID=uuid_you_found_here"
[14:36] <chunkyhead> is the squid package there in deb too?
[14:36] <jrib> !uuid | Yonny
[14:36] <Yonny> jrib: I see from other lines in FStab that there are specific args like "none", "0", etc. , which I have no clue if is relevant IF I use UUID instead of sdx, so I decided not to go that way until I have learned how that syntax should be done.
[14:36] <jrib> !fstab | Yonny
[14:37] <RishabhTatiraju> BluesKaj: well, i have used the same settings in Windows for years.
[14:37] <bananapie> sorry, wrong channel :P
[14:38] <BluesKaj> RishabhTatiraju, some sites are windows only , especially banks etc
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> could use an agent switcher :)
[14:39] <RishabhTatiraju> BluesKaj: I assume www.eotr.tk works with Ubuntu, even forums.xda-developers.com
[14:40] <RishabhTatiraju> * http://forum.xda-developers.com/
[14:40] <BluesKaj> yes it works here , RishabhTatiraju
[14:41] <RishabhTatiraju> first i thought it may be a DNS problem, but it wont help.
[14:41] <RishabhTatiraju> Any ideas why
[14:41] <RishabhTatiraju> My ISP does allow access to these websites, cos i was able to use them on Windows. I tried changing browsers, no luck!
[14:41] <BluesKaj> RishabhTatiraju, have you considered opendns instead , it's very reliable
[14:42] <bean> RishabhTatiraju: can you recap your problem?
[14:42] <bean> I just started reading
[14:42] <uvala> wilee-nilee, your link refers almost only to ubuntu user surveys on the first two pages of search results, and no free software for user surveys.
[14:42] <RishabhTatiraju> bean: I am unable to access webpages in my Ubuntu, they seem to work everywhere else. I just switched from Windows and they worked fine for me.
[14:43] <bean> RishabhTatiraju: any sites? or just some?
[14:43] <Yonny> a question about the SWAP too: When I installed, I created a swap partition for the new Pangolin, but did nothing with the existing swap partition on the other drive, which was already marked as swap. So now the new Pangolin lists 2 active swap partitions in its FStab. The other one is only for the older ubuntu version, so I will just remove those lines from FStab. Should I have changed the other swap to be "do not use" or whatever it lets me during installatio
[14:43] <Yonny> n? Would that not disable it for the other Ubuntu after the installation? (I am unclear as what happens to the exsting swap when choosing "do not use"; will it be affected/altered/changed, or left untouched and simply not used ?)
[14:43] <codephobic> hi
[14:43] <RishabhTatiraju> bean: just a few
[14:44] <bean> RishabhTatiraju: okay, and what error does the browser give
[14:44] <RishabhTatiraju> bean: www.eotr.tk, http://forum.xda-developers.com/, and a few more
[14:44] <wilee-nilee> uvala, This channel is not for what you want it is basically support for problems, we do not know every possible app that is in the repos, free or not.
[14:44] <RishabhTatiraju> I am using Chromium, and it says Webpage not available, Bean
[14:44] <codephobic> is it worth downloading 13.04 beta today, are there likely to be any real differences between it and the official release on the 25th?
[14:44] <bean> RishabhTatiraju: okay, in a terminal, what is the output of "dig +short www.eotr.tk"
[14:44] <bean> codephobic: I'd just wait.
[14:45] <RishabhTatiraju> bean: it says 199.59.166.170
[14:45] <govindsmenokee> hi
[14:45] <govindsmenokee> anyone der?
[14:45] <codephobic> bean, I was thinking I might avoid the huge lag that official release day seems to lead to (I remember the upgrade from 04 to 10).
[14:46] <codephobic> but if there are features that are still being polished up or some other bits of tidy up ... I guess I'll wait.
[14:46] <bean> RishabhTatiraju: okay, that's correct... can you pastebin the output of "wget www.eotr.tk"
[14:47] <bean> govindsmenokee: yeah, just ask your question
[14:48] <RishabhTatiraju> bean: Its stuck at HTTP request sent, awaiting response: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5595725/
[14:48] <miss> How install tar.zip?
[14:48] <bean> RishabhTatiraju: to me that looks like you're blocked or somesuch.
[14:49] <RishabhTatiraju> bean: it was working a day before in Windows, i think my ISP does not block it
[14:49] <bean> RishabhTatiraju: no, but the site may be blocking you
[14:49] <anshul> any weechat user here ??? need help
[14:49] <uvala> wilee-nilee, you said "look at my link", that's what I've just answered to. like I said, I'd already searched google before coming here. as for my original question, I could get answers to similar questions earlier, that's why I asked it. it could have been a popular app which someone could hint at, therefore I dont find it too ok to basically exclude these kinds of questions
[14:50] <chunkyhead> how to install gnome 3.8 on ubuntu?
[14:50] <RishabhTatiraju> and also, after a long time, xda developers wepage opens in plain text
[14:50] <bean> anshul: /join #weechat
[14:50] <RishabhTatiraju> okay
[14:50] <anshul> chunkyhead : google it
[14:51] <RishabhTatiraju> bean: thank you, i will contact the webmaster.
[14:51] <RishabhTatiraju> and let you know
[14:51] <bean> RishabhTatiraju: it sounds like some problem with either your ISP or the site... does the "wget" of forum.xda-dev work?
[14:51] <Yonny> hi all, is there an "add more themes" option in Pangolin somewhere? I cannot seem to find an add option for themes in Appearance? Where is a recommended source for good/stable Pangolin themes?
[14:52] <miss> please tell me the order
[14:52] <RishabhTatiraju> bean: yes, it says saving to index.html when i wget xda
[14:52] <bean> RishabhTatiraju: okay, have you tried in firefox, then?
[14:53] <RishabhTatiraju> no. I have tried in chromium and opera
[14:53] <RishabhTatiraju> ill give it a try
[14:53] <Yonny> hi all, is it not possible to modify parts of the appearance of Pangolin themes, like I have seen in Linux Mint? Need any extra software for that to be possible?
[14:54] <niel1> my ubuntu keeps giving me a system problem then when I click report it says its having an internal error how can I turn these off?
[14:55] <niel1> it happens all the time
[14:55] <chunkyhead> switch off oopsie
[14:55] <chunkyhead> !oopsie
[14:55] <bean> Yonny: what do you mean by pangolin?
[14:55] <niel1> I just want to turn off the problem detected pop ups
[14:55] <wilee-nilee> niel1, What release?
[14:56] <chunkyhead> niel1, read more on oopsie. you will have to google that
[14:56] <niel1> ubuntu 12.10 because if it updates the partition breaks
[14:56] <chunkyhead> oopsie is the app which gives you error messages. sometimes it's helpful so that you know which app has crashing. if it's crashing alot you should update your repos
[14:57] <chunkyhead> niel1, ^
[14:57] <Vivekananda> hey everyone I asked this question earlier but forgot to check the answer. I have an old system with lubuntu 12.04 running. I have little space hence /home is 4.5 gb only but now it is full. .local is taking up 900 mbs. and .cache and .m2 are take up a total of 900 mbs
[14:57] <Vivekananda> can I shift all these to another partition and symlink them to home ?
[14:58] <RishabhTatiraju> off the record, any ETA for 13.04?
[14:58] <Yonny> bean: the new 12.04 release of ubuntu is nicknamed Precise Pangolin...
[14:58] <chunkyhead> >27th RishabhTatiraju more details on #ubuntu+1
[14:58] <Yonny> bean: (the LTS release, that is)
[14:59] <bean> Yonny: oh, most people would just refer to that as "12.04" or "precise"
[14:59] <Vivekananda> anyoone ?
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> Vivekananda: clear your browser cache
[14:59] <Yonny> bean: ok, I just use the most unique word by default, as "precise" can be used in so many other contexts
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> niel1: in /etc/default/apport   set enabled=0
[15:00] <bean> Yonny: but the release is called precise :)
[15:00] <niel1> wont let me save
[15:00] <niel1> to that spot
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> niel1: gksudo gedit /etc/default/apport
[15:01] <Yonny> bean: the 12.04 release is called "Precise Pangolin"
[15:01] <wilee-nilee> niel1, The popups are apport, some will have a place to click ignore, apport can be removed, and it will report on any errors including 3rd part apps.
[15:01] <niel1> ok all done
[15:01] <bean> Yonny: but in the repositories it is referred to as precise.
[15:01] <spaceneedle> Bug: Using Xubuntu. On the same hd I have ubuntu 12.04lts. When I'm on Xubuntu  my other partition(Ubuntu) mounts--and there is no way to unmount it.
[15:02] <Yonny> bean: always two words, like the 10.04 was "Lucid Lynx"
[15:02] <chunkyhead> wilee-nilee, wasn't oopsie the package which displays errors?
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> niel1: not sure how to apply that on the fly, it'll apply next reboot
[15:02] <niel1> oh ok
[15:02] <niel1> thanks
[15:02] <wilee-nilee> niel1, Not sure what you mean by partition  breaks as well.
[15:02] <bmxscott1993_> i got samba for my ubuntu but need to now how to get it working to file share to my window laptop need step by step of a link to show me how please help
[15:02] <niel1> when I update ubunttu wont start\
[15:02] <Yonny> bean: not important, but I just choose the one that does not appear to mean anything else, to avoid mixing with normal sentences
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> bmxscott1993_: use nautilus to share, its all handled for you
[15:02] <niel1> and I no longer have windows so it sucks
[15:03] <bmxscott1993_> i set up window just can not get ubuntu working
[15:03] <bean> Yonny: Don't really feel like arguing this :)
[15:03] <wilee-nilee> niel1, every time?
[15:03] <niel1> 2 times
[15:03] <niel1> had to reinstall
[15:03] <wilee-nilee> niel1, Have you modified grub?
[15:03] <niel1> nope
[15:03] <Yonny> bean: yes, perhaps mostly referred to as "precise", but since I do not frequent this channel so often, I am not into what is mostly used or not...
[15:03] <niel1> just doesnt work dont know why
[15:04] <wilee-nilee> niel1, So when this has happened what did you do to fix it?
[15:04] <wilee-nilee> !who | niel1
[15:04] <RishabhTatiraju> bean: Not working in Mozilla too
[15:04] <bean> Yonny: http://www.noobslab.com/2011/11/themes-collection-for-ubuntu-1110-unity.html further down there is some themes.
[15:04] <Yonny> bean: thanks :-)
[15:04] <niel1> I was using the windows install then and got rid of it
[15:04] <bmxscott1993_> send me the link for nautilus or command pleasa
[15:04] <niel1> And now I cant get windows back so not going to take the chance
[15:05] <niel1> like ubuntu replaced even though I said to keep it
[15:05] <spaceneedle> I wonder if my problems involving mounting(see above)--including a usb stick that won't boot--involves a virus.
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> bmxscott1993_: nautilus is the file manager in Ubuntu
[15:05] <wilee-nilee> niel1, Ah the wubi, that has a handful of built in problems that you wont see in a partitioned install.
[15:05] <bmxscott1993_> where
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> bmxscott1993_: when you move and double click files, you are using nautikus
[15:05] <bmxscott1993_> im new to this
[15:06] <niel1> well I gtg thanks for the help
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> bmxscott1993_: the orange folder, top of the unity panel on the left
[15:06] <bmxscott1993_> ow
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> bmxscott1993_: that file browser is called Nautilus
[15:06] <niel1> got some mc texturing to do o./
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> bmxscott1993_: there are many others, nautilus is just default in Ubuntu
[15:06] <RishabhTatiraju> okay, i just found another not working: login.yahoo.com
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> bmxscott1993_: right click a folder and youwill see sharing there, it will install what is needed if you do not have it]
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> RishabhTatiraju: I suggest you report a bug
[15:07] <bmxscott1993_> but how to i share my hard drive to my windows it not showing up on workgroup
[15:08] <Yonny> hi all, if I want to add a similar theme environment to ubuntu LTS than what Linux Mint is using with Gnome, which software components should I look for in the software repositories, to get one install to fetch the related dependencies?
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> bmxscott1993_: right click the mount pint, you share the partition, not the drive
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> Yonny: you will need cinammon, which we don't support here
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> Yonny: Ubuntu 12.04 uses Gnome deskop, just uses Unity shell instead
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> Yonny: instead of gnome-panel
[15:10] <craigbass1976> GoDaddy allows ssh, and I sshfs so that I can just mount up the remote directory on my box here.  It always times out quickly though.  Is there a way (on the client side--I doubt GoDaddy would make the simple server change for me) to keep this connection alive if I get up to go to the bathroom or something?  I have to shut all my files, remount, and open them again
[15:11] <alexandr> hello
[15:12] <Yonny> ActionParsnip: ok, so If I want to add themes, I should look for Cinnamon themes? Any other things I need to install first to get them working? I notice there is no "add themes" in the Appearance, so I am not sure what I need to be able to get a "add" and "modify" function like the one I saw in Mint. Just to change some basic stuff like move the closing buttons to the right side, etc.
[15:14] <craigbass1976> Or maybe... Can I do something to my godaddy user account (the linux account) that will keep connections alive longer, or is that a system wide thing?
[15:14] <auronandace> Yonny: cinnamon isn't supported here
[15:15] <ActionParsnip> Yonny: no idea, you'll need to ask in the Linux Mint channel
[15:16] <here> adding from apps.ubuntu.com fails with not found in software center http://dl.dropbox.com/u/11744656/20130423-01.png
[15:16] <Yonny> ok, so what is the recommended alternative to cinnamon, which _IS_ supported here (which 12.nn themes/systems do you support here?)
[15:16] <nugroho> system on chip with linux ubuntu
[15:16] <here> where can i find dev source for sources from apps.ubuntu.com , for example ?
[15:16] <here> deb* source
[15:16] <RishabhTatiraju> Alright, thanks for your help. I have submitted a bug
[15:18] <nugroho> latest desktop or laptop work well with ubuntu linux
[15:19] <Honksu> I have a problem with a ext4 partition containing root filesystem. I have no idea what is consuming about 49Gb of disk space. I have output of commands "df -h" and "sudo du -h --max-depth=1 /" here: http://pastebin.com/jWkKaZKP
[15:20] <bean> Yonny: I'd imagine that only the default is supported.
[15:21] <Yonny> bean: so what are all the people in here using, only the default theme?
[15:21] <bean> Yonny: I would imagine so
[15:21] <bean> I use no interface and shell only
[15:21] <Whiskey`Wonka> Honksu: why do you feel 49G is being erroniously use?
[15:21] <Whiskey`Wonka> used*
[15:22] <Yonny> bean: that sounds incredible, I thought we all want to be able to use the "P" in "PC" for "Personalization", which the theme functions are all about, not just change the background image...
[15:22] <Whiskey`Wonka> erroneously* too arg
[15:23] <bean> Yonny: the P in PC stands for "personal" not "personalization"
[15:23] <Vivekananda> ActionParsnip: Can I also move the .local to another partition and symlink it ?
[15:23] <Yonny> bean: yes, "Personal Computer", that is what I am pointing to: to make it personal(ized)
[15:23] <nugroho> ubuntu linux with great desktop outlook better than redhat or fedora
[15:23] <Whiskey`Wonka> Yonny: ive changed my some, been trying ot figure out how to disable the stupid alpha background on a per item basis, no luck so far
[15:24] <Honksu> Whiskey`Wonka: df -h prints that 92Gb is used but sum printed by du is only about 43Gb on root filesystem.
[15:24] <here> some apps work , but attempting to install https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/xnviewmp/ in 12.10 fails not found ... ?
[15:24] <Whiskey`Wonka> Yonny: personal does not imply personalizing
[15:25] <Whiskey`Wonka> hmm, does df double count symlinks?
[15:25] <Yonny> I was using the term slightly creatively, to point out that the P should mean something into this direction, not important.
[15:25] <bean> I do not think so.
[15:26] <Whiskey`Wonka> Yonny: well, it IS important
[15:26] <nugroho> ubuntu linux console with direct keyboard into monitor or lcd looks better than solaris operating system
[15:26] <Whiskey`Wonka> words have meaning, if you go randomly changing them then communication bcms 4 teh brds
[15:26] <Whiskey`Wonka> nugroho: so?
[15:27] <Yonny> well, Personal is important, yes: that I get the computer to look and feel like I would like it, so yes, important, but this discussion about which word to use is not important.
[15:27] <nugroho> faster ubuntu I think unsure with solaris
[15:27] <Whiskey`Wonka> what is the linux equal to 'file use + size on hdd' ?
[15:28] <Whiskey`Wonka> Yonny: well then just build yourself a new theme and be happy
[15:28] <Vivekananda> anyone else ?
[15:28] <Whiskey`Wonka> Yonny: there are plenty of them out there, google will find many of them
[15:28] <gigas> Honksu, do you have access to a GUI? try the disk usage analyzer client to pin down your disk usage
[15:29] <Whiskey`Wonka> Vivekananda: i missed it, what ?
[15:29] <Yonny> yes, that is my question: which theme "platform" is supported here in this forum, which do you recommend to start focusing on the theme part? I like gnome, so I would like to continue somewhere along that part, and what is that software component called now in Precise Pangolin, if I should look for what to install in the software repositories?
[15:29] <nugroho> ubuntu console command start with startx to see a live or life in GUI work wonderfull
[15:30] <Vivekananda> ooo I have a small /home in lubuntu 12.04  of 4.5 gb. in it .local is 900 mb and .cache and .m2(for maven and stuff) is 1 gb. Can I move these directories to another partition and just symlink it to home ?
[15:31] <Vivekananda> I mean is it advisable to do this. I already cleared the cache as ActionParsnip suggested but that just freed up 200 mbs of space
[15:32] <betrayd> Vivekananda: i did the same when Music got too big
[15:32] <bean> Vivekananda: sure, you could do that
[15:32] <betrayd> but i made a copy first
[15:33] <Vivekananda> betrayd: bean I know I can do it but these are dot '.' files. is it advisable to do this ? also I will need to preserve the ownership somehow right ?
[15:33] <bean> Vivekananda: it'll be fine.
[15:33] <dnano91> hi, i recently installed ubuntu 12.10 and iptables contained some rules. as they're causing problems, i flushed iptables and set basic rules, but after a reboot everything i did was undone. what can i do about it? is a package causing this?
[15:34] <Whiskey`Wonka> Vivekananda: it should be ok, as long as the mount point is automatic
[15:34] <lotuspsychje> !iptables | dnano91
[15:35] <Honksu> Whiskey`Wonka: I think my problem might be caused by root filesystem containing /cameras /backup with data and other HDD's are mounted on those files. That is baaad! I check this out right away.
[15:35] <Whiskey`Wonka> Yonny: there are a few ways, start at gnome.org
[15:35] <Whiskey`Wonka> why would that be bad Honksu?
[15:36] <c0myn> ubuntu? im looking for #!
[15:36] <SonikkuAmerica> c0myn: Crunchbang?
[15:36] <nugroho> ubuntu linux rarely open root account work with multiuser
[15:36] <c0myn> YEAH
[15:36] <SonikkuAmerica> c0myn: It's #crunchbang
[15:36] <Honksu> Whiskey`Wonka: not neccesserily baaad but unintended anyway. I am moving root FS to SSD soon so this must be sorted out. :)
[15:37] <c0myn> thank you sonikku
[15:37] <SonikkuAmerica> yw
[15:37] <c0myn> or arigato
[15:37] <c0myn> :)
[15:37]  * SonikkuAmerica !u s himself
[15:37] <Whiskey`Wonka> Honksu: those will not effect your ssd at all
[15:37] <Whiskey`Wonka> you just need to know where they point to so that when you do move that they still exist
[15:37] <felon> someone avalible to help me, ive tried unsuccessfully to get my monitor detected by ubuntu
[15:38] <SonikkuAmerica> !anyone | felon
[15:38] <Honksu> they will use up space and I am going with 128Gb drive so 92Gb used on 128Gb is pretty much maximum recomended disk usage
[15:38] <Whiskey`Wonka> they will not use space if its a symlink
[15:38] <SonikkuAmerica> felon: Welllll... some details up front. What kind of monitor, machine, Ubuntu version?
[15:39] <Whiskey`Wonka> thats why the two commands do not match
[15:39] <felon> Display is cut-off, and stuck at 640x480 (4:3); cannot detect monitor. im using Nvidia 6200 pci vid card
[15:39] <Honksu> Whiskey`Wonka: well I unmount them now and check contents of directories
[15:40] <SonikkuAmerica> felon: Ubuntu 10.04, 11.10, 12.04, 12.10?
[15:40] <felon> 10.04 LTS
[15:40] <SonikkuAmerica> felon: I'll tell you right off the bat that support for 10.04 LTS ends in 48 hours.
[15:41] <SonikkuAmerica> felon: So the best thing to do is upgrade to 12.04 LTS. Then you might try asking...
[15:43] <SonikkuAmerica> felon: That is, hit Ctrl+Alt+F1, log in, and type [ do-release-upgrade ]. Follow the prompts, let it download and install the new packages, reboot when it's done, and come back if you have further problems.
[15:43] <c0myn> so i'm using a debian flavor on a ACER laptop with a intel GMA 4500m, and can't get anything other than 1024x768, had to add a line of code to the live cd just to get the backlight on! any ideas?
[15:43] <Honksu> Whiskey`Wonka: there was a directory on /backup and there was directory with same name on other HDD and it was mounted over. that's why the numbers weren't correspondig
[15:43] <SonikkuAmerica> !debian | c0myn
[15:44] <litropy> Wow, 2 monitor issues in a row.
[15:44] <SonikkuAmerica> c0myn: OK, that didn't say what I thought it would. What I thought it would say is: join the #debian channel.
[15:44] <felon> sorry, bad connection, display is cut off on the left and right side, no widescreen
[15:44] <litropy> Both resolution issues
[15:44] <felon> like ubuntu is using some crt mode
[15:44] <SonikkuAmerica> felon: Did you catch anything I said? If not, I'll repeat it.
[15:44] <felon> nope
[15:44] <felon> nothing
[15:45] <c0myn> ok i'll try debian, no luck at crunchbang, thanks again
[15:45] <SonikkuAmerica> felon: We are ceasing support for 10.04 LTS on Thursday.
[15:45] <c0myn> join #debian
[15:45] <felon> well today is tuesday :)
[15:45] <tirengarfio__> fasdf
[15:46] <SonikkuAmerica> felon: So at this point I'll strongly recommend an upgrade to 12.04 LTS.
[15:46] <litropy> Isn't there a GRUB menu entry with different graphics modes, like VESA?
[15:46] <SonikkuAmerica> felon: Before I help you with this.
[15:46] <felon> funny thing is i upgraded 12.04 and same problems
[15:46] <SonikkuAmerica> felon: You're on 12.04 now? You said 10.04 earlier...
[15:46] <litropy> felon, full upgrade, including kernel?
[15:47] <felon> i tried to get my monitor working by upgrading thro ubuntu updates last week, but didnt work.
[15:47] <felon> so i through 10.04 back on
[15:47] <chunkyhead> need a little help, i updated repos(added gnome and kde), and then updated and upgraded, i'm not getting any option of new interfaces in the login menu
[15:47] <Jeena_> I have a problem, when I try to take a screenshot, I only get a black picture, anyone a Idea why that is happening and how I can fix it?
[15:47] <litropy> felon, you upgraded then downgraded? Full wipe and reinstall to 10.04 or ...
[15:48] <litropy> More graphics issues. Wow.
[15:48] <felon> full wipe cause all i have is the 10.04 disk
[15:48] <SonikkuAmerica> Jeena_: What program are you using?
[15:48] <Jeena_> I press the Print Screen button on my keyboard
[15:48] <SonikkuAmerica> felon: Can you burn a 12.04 image to DVD or a USB flash drive?
[15:48] <Jeena_> It seems to be called "Screenshot"
[15:48] <SonikkuAmerica> Jeena_: Are you using a proprietary driver for graphics?
[15:48] <felon> i guess
[15:49] <litropy> Jeena_, how many monitors do you have set up?
[15:49] <felon> shouldnt have to
[15:49] <chunkyhead> Jeena_, download screencloud and see if the same thing happens there, in addition to what SonikkuAmerica is saying
[15:49] <Jeena_> I think I installed one during my tests and it made Unity kind of usable
[15:49] <Jeena_> (before it took 3-7 seconds to open after hitting the super key)
[15:49] <SonikkuAmerica> felon: Once you burn a 12.04 live image, boot from it (you know how), press F6, and select "nomodeset" from the menu.
[15:49] <Jeena_> I have 2 monitors
[15:50] <felon> thx
[15:50] <litropy> Jeena_, I'd try turning your secondary off and see if that does the trick, just to rule out confusion there.
[15:50] <felon> but id like to get it working now
[15:51] <SonikkuAmerica> felon: I have an idea. Does your monitor have an onboard picture control?
[15:51] <Jeena_> ok
[15:52] <felon> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV44A [GeForce 6200] (rev a1)
[15:52] <felon> yea ive tried that
[15:52] <Jeena_> without the second monitor it is still just black
[15:53] <SonikkuAmerica> felon: No no no, I'm talking about those buttons on the MONITOR
[15:53] <litropy> Jeena_, thx. You're welcome to use your second again.
[15:53] <felon> i know
[15:53] <jazzdle> I would like to ask in this command "make deinstall clean patch",  patch is used for what reason?
[15:53] <felon> ive tried auto adjusting
[15:53] <nugroho> ubuntu linux has great appearance than fedora or mandrake
[15:53] <litropy> Jeena_, try this: System->Preferences->Appearance->Visual effects; select "none"
[15:54] <SonikkuAmerica> felon: You tried adjusting the screen width then.
[15:54] <wilee-nilee> !who | please use nicks
[15:54] <felon> yes
[15:55] <felon> i duel boot windows, and it works fine with a Nvidia driver
[15:55] <felon> i like ubuntu and its pissing me off
[15:55] <SonikkuAmerica> !language | felon, please
[15:55] <jbdubbs> Anybody a network expert?  I have 13.04 installed and my wireless connection has degraded to unusable.  First installed 13.04, it was perfect.  A few days later, I had to refresh a page every once in a while to get some images.  Then a page would take a few attempts to load.  Now nothing loads.  Any idea?
[15:56] <hallyn> meeting
[15:56] <hallyn> feh
[15:56] <auronandace> !13.04 | jbdubbs
[15:56] <aeon-ltd> jbdubbs: nothing loads as in no connection?
[15:56] <prappl93> Is there a special channel for support for Raring?
[15:56] <prappl93> Or can I ask questions about it here?
[15:56] <Pici> prappl93: #ubuntu+1
[15:56] <prappl93> Thanks!
[15:56] <jbdubbs> Says its connected, pulls an IP, no pages pull
[15:57] <felon> SonikkuAmerica : can i fix this simply by finding the right Nvidia Driver ?
[15:57] <SonikkuAmerica> felon: What does Hardware Drivers say?
[15:57] <Jeena_> oh cool, ScreenCloud seems to work just fine
[15:57] <Jeena_> thanks for the person who suggested it.
[15:57] <aeon-ltd> jbdubbs: any other devices on the network that work fine?
[15:58] <jbdubbs> Every other device works fine and dual booting this machine to windows works fine
[15:58] <felon> says i can use nvidia 173, 96 or the current
[15:58] <felon> ive tried all of them with no luck
[15:58] <jbdubbs> Im also assuming that reinstalling raring would get it working again
[15:58] <guina> Good afternoon everyone
[15:59] <litropy> jbdubbs, when you $ping 127.0.0.1, do you get replies?
[15:59] <raven_> evga geforce gt620: any way to use it with all 3 connections in ubuntu?
[15:59] <guina> I need a little help
[15:59] <litropy> !help guina
[15:59] <litropy> Whoops lol
[15:59] <jbdubbs> Yes, I get a response from 127.0.0.1 as well as my router at 10.0.0.1
[15:59] <litropy> !ask guina
[15:59] <evil_and1> raven_, does it actually have 3 GPUs? or is it just 3 connectors and 2 of which can be used at any given time?
[16:00] <litropy> K I'm just gonna stop that now
[16:00] <guina> estrai when I try it it's me the following message  - ."/ET_v2.60_Linux.run.gz: 1: eval: ./setup.sh: Permission denied"
[16:00] <raven_> evil_and1, one minihdmi and two dvi connections
[16:00] <evil_and1> raven_, it's probably only able to drive 2 of those simultaneously. Regardless of the OS
[16:01] <litropy> jbdubbs, and you see your NIC when you ipconfig?
[16:01] <evil_and1> I've got a 550Ti and it can only drive 2 displays (and has 3 connectors on the back)
[16:01] <litropy> jbdubbs, when you ping ubuntu.com, do you get replies?
[16:01] <guina> how can I solve this problem
[16:01] <raven_> evil_and1, whats the secret of every graphics card is only able to handle 2 displays at once?
[16:01] <litropy> jbdubbs, and in that case, is your browser set to a proxy?
[16:01] <SonikkuAmerica> felon: Use nvidia-173; if that doesn't work, use nvidia-96.
[16:02] <evil_and1> I think it's just because it's cheaper that way
[16:02] <SonikkuAmerica> felon: But if you need nvidia-96 or nvidia-173 your graphics are doomed.
[16:02] <jbdubbs> litropy, no response from ubuntu.com, wlan0 is in ifconfig
[16:02] <felon> i tried all of them with no luck\
[16:02] <SolarisBoy> dns issue?
[16:02] <litropy> jbdubbs, ping 91.189.94.156
[16:03] <jbdubbs> litropy, no response
[16:03] <litropy> jbdubbs, if no response, see if you see wlan0 in iwconfig
[16:04] <ElixirVitae> Hello!
[16:04] <ElixirVitae> How do I runs filename.sh from terminal?
[16:04] <litropy> it should be there, since you can ping locally but meh
[16:04] <houser> if only i knew why ubuntu was so popular and people say linux is so insanely stable....In average ubuntu seems to crash 1-2 times per day, it over heats my processor and its insanely slow in the gui and movie playback is lagging...what is it again that is so nice about this system?
[16:04] <SonikkuAmerica> felon: Upgrade to 12.04 LTS and see if you can use the nouveau drivers.
[16:04] <felon> hoping i wouldnt have to
[16:04] <jbdubbs> litropy, I see wlan0 in iwconfig, connected at 130mbps
[16:04] <SolarisBoy> litropy: jbdubbs is it possible the gw your connected does not presently have inet access?
[16:05] <ElixirVitae> *-s
[16:05] <SolarisBoy> jbdubbs: try to mtr 91.189.94.156 or traceroute 91.189.94.156
[16:05] <litropy> jbdubbs, comb your router settings and make sure you haven't restricted access to your MAC
[16:05] <jbdubbs> SolarisBoy, it works in Windows and on other maxhines
[16:05] <litropy> jbdubbs, yes, it connects, to no MAC exclusion there, but there could be content exclusion.
[16:05] <SolarisBoy> jbdubbs: being connected to that wireless network with similar settings works or other computers "work"?
[16:05] <litropy> so*
[16:06] <litropy> SolarisBoy, yes, he's confirmed that
[16:06] <jbdubbs> litropy, seems its getting to my wireless router and stopping... interesting
[16:06] <guina> can someone help me regarding the installation of a game. Run
[16:06] <SolarisBoy> interesting.
[16:07] <guina> he is giving me access denied
[16:07] <litropy> jbdubbs, yep, and sometimes, though rarely, your MAC can be different even on the same machine in a different OS
[16:07] <jbdubbs> let me go hard reset the thing and see what happens, brb
[16:07] <litropy> jbdubbs, k
[16:08] <SonikkuAmerica> felon: You'll have to sooner or later...
[16:08] <betrayd> guina maybe the destination is protected,what does the readme say
[16:08] <litropy> jbdubbs, when you get back, tell me if you're just replugging the power or if you're actually setting the router back to default.
[16:09] <betrayd> or if...
[16:10] <guina> here's the message that is occurring " ./ET_v2.60_Linux.run.gz: 1: eval: ./setup.sh: Permission denied
[16:10] <guina>  "
[16:10] <DrGrov> Hi again
[16:11] <DrGrov> Trying to ask once more. I have a TV set at 1920x1080 and it worked until last night through that I had modified modelines in xorg.conf. Now today it does not work, says "no signal" when the computer reboots. What can I do? I tried to remove xorg.conf and xorg.conf.backup but without any success.
[16:11] <chunkyhead> was just wondering, can i design my workspace switching commands taking input from the touchpad. ie scroll up takes me to the workspace on top, scroll to right workspace on the right and so on and so forth. possible? or is it already implemented?
[16:12] <felon> SonikkuAmerica : cant i edit /etc/gdm/Init/Default with the info from xrandr --verbose
[16:12] <betrayd> DrGrov: use your fn keys
[16:12] <DrGrov> betrayd: Huh?
[16:12] <houser> if only i knew why ubuntu was so popular and people say linux is so insanely stable....In average ubuntu seems to crash 1-2 times per day, it over heats my processor and its insanely slow in the gui and movie playback is lagging...what is it again that is so nice about this system?
[16:12] <SonikkuAmerica> felon: I hate to say this but I have to go, can you ask someone else?
[16:12] <betrayd> the special colored fn keys
[16:13] <betrayd> DrGrov: ^
[16:13] <felon> pff figures
[16:13] <DrGrov> betrayd: What do you mean now? I am not following you at all.
[16:13] <betrayd> or bios setup
[16:14] <betrayd> guina grant it run rights but you have to gunzip it first
[16:14] <DrGrov> ActionParsnip: Hi there, you helped me earlier with my xorg.conf resolution issues. Any ideas what causes my system not to recognize my monitor anymore as of this morning?
[16:14] <litropy> DrGrov, Settings>Keyboard>Shortcuts you can set key commands there for workspace switching. Touchpad gestures (that trigger a keystroke) aren't installed by default, but there's gotta be something out there. Probably Google "Ubuntu touchpad gestures"
[16:15] <DrGrov> litropy: That is not the case. The case is that upon startup I can not get anything working, it is just a blank screen. No GUI, no nothing. It worked last night but I have no idea why it does not work now anymore. I have to use a 11.04 64-bit LiveCD to work.
[16:15] <raven_> is theoretically possible to use 3 monitors simultaneously with two dvi on an nvidia card and one onboard vga?
[16:15] <betrayd> no signal means it doesn't get anything at boot; see how your kbd/mouse leds light up DrGrov?
[16:16] <litropy> DrGrov, whoops wrong  nick sorry
[16:16] <DrGrov> litropy: No problem
[16:16] <notrin> ehy there
[16:16] <notrin> anyone done clustering? i am looking into it now, do the machines need 2 nic or only 1?
[16:17] <litropy> chunkyhead, Settings>Keyboard>Shortcuts you can set key commands there for workspace switching. Touchpad gestures (that trigger a keystroke) aren't installed by default, but there's gotta be something out there. Probably Google "Ubuntu touchpad gestures"
[16:18] <weirdpercent> can anyone explain why Terminator refuses to use zsh as the login shell?
[16:18] <Corey> weirdpercent: Is it in /etc/shells?
[16:18] <litropy> notrin, I looked into it once, and really, it's not worth it, and furthermore, you'd probably end up with a speed *decrease*
[16:18] <betrayd> he cant be bargained with
[16:18] <litropy> notrin, this is as of maybe 2 months ago.
[16:18] <notrin> thats not a factor, i just doing it for fun
[16:19] <notrin> i got some junk machines laying around
[16:19] <weirdpercent> Corey: yes, /bin/zsh
[16:19] <Botreak1> can somebody help me with tp-link tl-wn322g on ubuntu 12.04.2?
[16:19] <notrin> so 1 or 2 nics per machine? :D
[16:19] <notrin> i was wanting to use a laptop for the main node
[16:19] <Corey> weirdpercent: That's interesting, it's in /usr/bin/zsh for me.  "which zsh" says what on that box?
[16:20] <Corey> Oh, alternatives.
[16:20] <litropy> notrin, this is what Ubuntu officially has: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Clustering
[16:20] <Corey> weirdpercent: I don't have a graphical Ubuntu desktop here.
[16:20] <evil_and1> It's nice to see people actually using ipv6 more often :)
[16:20] <Corey> So I'm going to be of somewhat limited help.
[16:20] <litropy> notrin, One NIC works.
[16:21] <weirdpercent> Corey: even /usr/bin/zsh doesn't work
[16:21] <notrin> great
[16:21] <notrin> thanks litropy
[16:21] <weirdpercent> I've tried setting the SHELL env var
[16:21] <raven_> is theoretically possible to use 3 monitors simultaneously with two dvi on an nvidia card and one onboard vga?
[16:22] <elisa87> how can I copy a folder from remote machine using scp or any other command to my local machine?
[16:22] <litropy> Peeps, what is that bang command that triggers ubottu to be like, "Please ask your question"
[16:22] <betrayd> yes raven_
[16:22] <Corey> weirdpercent: It's going to be in Terminator's settings.
[16:22] <evil_and1> raven_, yeah, that shouldn't be any problem
[16:22] <prayas> does everyone always speak technical bullshit???
[16:22] <betrayd> litropy: its details
[16:22] <h00k> prayas: please keep the language appropriate in the channel
[16:22] <jbdubbs> litropy, that was it.  Somehow the router was treating ubuntu differently than the same MAC under windows.  I confirmed the mac didnt change.  Did a factory reset and now its fine.
[16:23] <prayas> oh sorry hook
[16:23] <Botreak1> can somebody please help me?
[16:23] <prayas> new here
[16:23] <Corey> prayas: This is a support channel. It stands to reason that the discussion topics here are technical.
[16:23] <linux_unix-10> Hello!
[16:23] <weirdpercent> Corey: tried setting option to use login shell, and tried using custom command
[16:23] <h00k> ubottu: ask | Botreak1
[16:23] <Corey> weirdpercent: That seems odd.
[16:23] <wilee-nilee> !details | Botreak1
[16:23] <prayas> can ya guys solve everything??
[16:23] <kalidor_> almost everything
[16:23] <prayas> wow cool
[16:23] <kalidor_> ;)
[16:24] <raven_> betrayd evil_and1  how to do it?0 i have plugged the onboard card now and have a freeze of the ubuntu boot screen. no option to enable the monitor in display settings yet
[16:24] <weirdpercent> Corey: I know, in the past that's worked for me. must be something with my config, I'll try uninstalling and reinstalling everything
[16:24] <jbdubbs> litropy, Thanks brother!
[16:24] <Corey> weirdpercent: That's a bit odd.
[16:24] <litropy> jbdubbs, yw! Happy surfing :)
[16:24] <Corey> weirdpercent: If you fire up a new Terminator sessiona nd invoke /bin/zsh, does it work?
[16:24] <betrayd> raven_: dont do 3 at once, start w/ 2 dvi maybe
[16:25] <raven_> betrayd, two are running already on the nvidia
[16:25] <DrGrov> How do I copy the current 11.04 information and resolution stuff since it works well on the live CD but not on 12.04 by normal?
[16:25] <betrayd> save the xorg.conf raven_
[16:26] <raven_> betrayd ?
[16:26] <aneks> raven_, just out of curiousity what nvidia card do you have?
[16:26] <betrayd> raven_: now plug one in, the unused one, by itself
[16:26] <raven_> aneks gt 620
[16:27] <raven_> betrayd, to find out any id?
[16:27] <betrayd> which driver are you using
[16:28] <raven_> betrayd, nvidia "current"
[16:28] <betrayd> save the xorg.conf
[16:28] <raven_> betrayd, backup you mean?
[16:29] <betrayd> yes, but do you know where it is
[16:29] <here> I'm getting a not found from software center when linking directly from https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/xnviewmp/ -- have enabled partner and multiverse and updated -- screenshot : http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/11744656/20130423-01.png
[16:30] <raven_> betrayd, done
[16:31] <bean> here: try on the command line "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xnviewmp"
[16:31] <bean> if that doesnt work
[16:31] <bean> apt-cache search xnview and see if anything related is in the list
[16:31] <here> bean: E: Unable to locate package xnviewmp
[16:31] <HeKToN> msg NickServ identify kokolino
[16:31] <here> bean: apt-cache search returns nothing
[16:32] <bean> here: okay, what version of ubuntu are you on
[16:32] <here> 12.10
[16:32] <betrayd> ok, normally you have a nvidia X server settings menu. SOmetimes you add a 3rd and it freaks
[16:33] <betrayd> raven_: which is what happened to you iirc
[16:33] <raven_> betrayd, what do yu mean?
[16:33] <DrGrov> There is no solution for booting into a black screen? Works on 11.04 as a live CD but not on my regular 12.04. Removed the xorg.conf and xorg.conf.backup to see if that was the case but no luck.
[16:33] <betrayd> raven_: what part dont you understand
[16:34] <raven_> betrayd, do you want to guide me trough the steps?
[16:34] <bean> here: im not seeing it in the repos
[16:34] <betrayd> no theres plenty sources out there
[16:34] <betrayd> but here
[16:35] <betrayd> put in the 1 monitor by itself and get the xorg.conf there
[16:35] <bean> here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=xnviewmp&searchon=names&suite=all&section=all
[16:35] <betrayd> you combine the saved one with this
[16:35] <here> bean: ok , but it is here : https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/xnviewmp/
[16:35] <betrayd> raven_: and you get all 3 running
[16:35] <bean> here: okay, but that doesn't matter, it doesn't exist in the repos.
[16:36] <raven_> ok
[16:36] <betrayd> you have to edit xorg.conf sometime
[16:36] <here> bean: ok so wtf is apps.ubuntu.com ? and is there a way I can get a sources file from there to add to my /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[16:36] <betrayd> DrGrov: how many screens
[16:36] <DrGrov> betrayd: Just one.
[16:36] <betrayd> liveCD finds it
[16:37] <bean> here: have you enabled multiverse? it might be in there...
[16:37] <here> bean: i'm confused why a direct apt:// link from *.ubuntu.com would be "not in the repos" ... I'm missing something conceptually here
[16:37] <bean> ah, you say you have multiverse
[16:37] <bean> here: can you copy paste me the apt link
[16:37]  * bean is on his mac atm
[16:37] <here> I could grab a *.deb file and use dpkg -i to install it , but i'm trying to understand what i'm missing that I'd have to do it that way.
[16:38] <here> bean: apt://xnviewmp from https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/xnviewmp/
[16:38] <bean> okay.
[16:38] <bean> i'm not sure what tool maintains that apps service
[16:39] <auronandace> !info xnviewmp
[16:39] <DrGrov> betrayd: Yes, the live CD finds it "correctly" at 1360x768. Even though it works at 1920x1080. I had 1920x1080 but deleted those xorg.conf and xorg.conf.backup files but still no help.
[16:40] <betrayd> no signal means its not detected at boot
[16:40] <bean> here: seems your best bet is to install the .deb
[16:40] <DrGrov> betrayd: Yes but I have not done any changes since last night which could cause that. At least that I know of.
[16:41] <betrayd> hooked up by cable to what, desktop?
[16:42] <here> bean: ok thanks for your help -- any ideas where I might pursue further help / reporting that app.ubuntu.com is failing in this way ?
[16:42] <DrGrov> betrayd: Yes, please highlight my name so I can follow what is going on. Too much text. Yes, it is connected to a desktop computer.
[16:42] <balrog-k1n> hi, i'm instructing someone over phone how to install ubuntu, they'll be installing it on a usb stick because the hard drive is dead, is the "Universal USB Installer" the recommended way to put the image on the stick on windows? also, should they select Ubuntu 12.10 Desktop for the image? the other option is Ubuntu 12.10 DVD which i guess could either mean "isolinux bootable", or "bigger image"
[16:42] <EpicPoo> i need some help
[16:42] <betrayd> DrGrov: are you away from the computer
[16:42] <EpicPoo> my ifconfig stopped working
[16:42] <Mavrik> balrog-k1n, I usually used UNetBootin on Windows and it worked well for most distros
[16:42] <EpicPoo> where can i find it?
[16:42] <DrGrov> betrayd: No, I am sitting at the computer running the live CD so I get something.
[16:43] <balrog-k1n> Mavrik: ubuntu.com doesn't really give instructions but links to the Universal USB Installer in one place
[16:44] <betrayd> DrGrov: so with the open s drivers you get an image
[16:44] <balrog-k1n> will the "Ubuntu 12.10 Desktop" image boot a ubuntu desktop, or will it boot the installer only?
[16:45] <balrog-k1n> (insert a rant about poor instruction on ubuntu.com)
[16:45] <Guest52480> Hiya! Could anyone help me with my ASUS n13? :)
[16:45] <betrayd>  =)
[16:45] <Guest52480> Bah
[16:46] <IdleOne> balrog-k1n: the image is a Live CD and install
[16:46] <balrog-k1n> IdleOne: ah, good, thanks
[16:47] <balrog-k1n> so the "DVD" image is just bigger than the "Desktop" image i assume
[16:47] <betrayd> !anyone | Guest
[16:47] <IdleOne> balrog-k1n: correct
[16:47] <Tonmi> Ubotto: Sure!
[16:47] <IdleOne> balrog-k1n: they are all DVD images now because of size, but still live/install
[16:48] <prayas> is there any way to connect android and ubuntu
[16:48] <balrog-k1n> ok, cool, we're starting the download then
[16:49] <hector__> Hi any one here?/ I am newto this xchat
[16:49] <prayas> heloooo!!
[16:49] <Tonmi> I recently bought a ASUS N13 because it was recommended b/c it supports linux. I can find my network but when I try to connect to it loads for a long time then fails to connect.
[16:49] <litropy> !details | prayas
[16:49] <hector__> any python programmers room?
[16:49] <stn0209> hi, any o
[16:49] <Pici> hector__: #python
[16:49] <hector__> #python
[16:50] <hector__> Thanks pici but where?
[16:50] <litropy> hector__, /join #python
[16:50] <stn0209> hi anyone know how to auto switch the workspaces? having the interval of 5secs or so
[16:50] <prayas> that was'nt a problem just needed suggestions. thanks anyway
[16:50] <hector__> thanks litropy
[16:50] <Pici> !register | hector__ /join #python, but you'll likely also need to register your nick
[16:51] <litropy> prayas, I'm askin, in what way do you want to "connect" android to ubuntu?
[16:51] <hector__> !register | hector__ /join #python
[16:51] <prayas> using wifi, to transfer file
[16:52] <litropy> prayas, /join #android and ask them about setting up a file server.
[16:52] <prayas> oh okay thanks
[16:54] <prayas> liltropy, there aint anyone in #android
[16:54] <ronnie> hello
[16:54] <litropy> prayas, I'm counting 831 users
[16:54] <wilee-nilee> prayas, use airdroid
[16:54] <prayas> well none answered my question
[16:55] <tr0pe> Hi
[16:55] <ronnie> does anyone know how to update playonlinux?
[16:55] <wilee-nilee> prayas, I use this with my nexus 7 http://www.webupd8.org/2012/12/how-to-mount-android-40-ubuntu-go-mtpfs.html
[16:55] <litropy> prayas, looks like you have an option up there, but the following is something to keep in mind when asking questions on IRC:
[16:56] <litropy> !patience | prayas
[16:56] <wilee-nilee> ronnie, Should be auto updates.
[16:56] <prayas> ok ok just new here, thanks
[16:56] <litropy> Hah np prayas
[16:56] <prayas> so dont ya guys just hang out, like omegle?
[16:57] <litropy> prayas, it's more formal here.
[16:57] <litropy> prayas, but there are chans just for chatting.
[16:57] <prayas> okay
[16:57] <litropy> prayas, like #defocus
[16:58] <prayas> whats it about?
[16:58] <ronnie> everytime i open it it says "an updated version of playonlinux is available (4.2.1)" and i cant figure out how to update it
[16:58] <prayas> wow its my kinda chat room, thanks litropy
[16:58] <Pici> prayas: our official offtopic channel is #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:59] <litropy> yw, prayas; enjoy.
[16:59] <prayas> thanks everyone
[17:00] <wilee-nilee> ronnie, Choose your release and add the ppa is one option. http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppa/playonlinux
[17:00] <litropy> ronnie, not sure ... have you tried asking in #playonlinux
[17:00] <atul_> hi, how to download, Ubuntu's Setting's source code, or can get git url for same
[17:01] <litropy> atul_, are you looking for specifically the source code for Ubuntu's System Settings app?
[17:02] <atul_> litropy, Yes
[17:05] <prayas> my nickname aint changing, how to do it??
[17:06] <nibbler_> prayas: normally "/nick foo" - but you might be restricted, check your server status window, if it tells you something about being set +r or restricted or such
[17:06] <litropy> atul_, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+source/gnome-control-center/1:3.4.1-0ubuntu1
[17:07] <prayas> nope no +r,nibbler
[17:07] <litropy> prayas, for chat-related and server-related inquiries, try #freenode
[17:07] <prayas> ok
[17:08] <atul_> litropy, Thanks a lot.
[17:08] <litropy> atul_, you're welcome.
[17:11] <YASHH> how can i explore different chat rooms??
[17:13] <litropy> YASHH, That's a question for #freenode
[17:13] <DJones> !alis | YASHH
[17:13] <YASHH> oh ok dude, thanks
[17:14] <moppers> ok ubuntu doesn't have mkinitrd ... ?
[17:14] <litropy> YASHH, You're welcome! We'll always be here for you for Ubuntu-related questions.
[17:15] <DrGrov> Hi everyone
[17:15] <DrGrov> Now I am in recovery mode, enabling networking. So, how do I now reset the X server so I can get some resolution to work? It is like it is out of signal all the time.
[17:15] <moppers> no hits in packages.ubuntu.com search for 'mkinitrd'
[17:15] <YASHH> does any know how to get chrome os linux
[17:16] <DrGrov> I really need some help here, I am stuck :/(
[17:16] <moppers> YASHH, http://www.chromium.org/chromium-os
[17:16] <betrayd> DrGrov: try going into BIOS even if you don't change anything there
[17:16] <DrGrov> betrayd: What should I do in BIOS?
[17:17] <betrayd> just go through some menus DrGrov
[17:17] <betrayd> so the TV will think somethings new DrGrov
[17:17] <YASHH> moppers, is it equivalent to the original chrome by google?
[17:17] <DrGrov> betrayd: Ok, I have to reboot then. I will come back into recovery mode then in a little while.
[17:18] <DrGrov> betrayd: But what will that help actually?
[17:18] <betrayd> DrGrov: is that mode while in th CD?
[17:18] <wilee-nilee> moppers, Not in the 12.04 repos. http://pkgs.org/ubuntu-12.04/ubuntu-universe-i386/bootcd-mkinitramfs_3.27_all.deb.html
[17:18] <DrGrov> betrayd: No, I am now sitting on the default desktop 12.04 and getting recovery mode.
[17:19] <betrayd> DrGrov: oh in that case, ignore what i said
[17:19] <DrGrov> betrayd: Ok, ignored.
[17:19] <yoojinp> :]
[17:20] <DrGrov> betrayd: Should I somehow reset the X server now?
[17:20] <Dr_willis> YASHH,  theres some 3rd party packages you can install on ubuntu to get a chrome-os session. they should be mentioned on the omgubuntu! or webupd8 blog sites.
[17:21] <moppers> wilee-nilee, thanks .. will use mkinitramfs instead
[17:21] <betrayd> DrGrov: but the nvidi current would still be there at reboot won't it
[17:21] <DrGrov> betrayd: I am not using nvidia-current, I am using nouveau.
[17:22] <betrayd> no when you reboot i mean DrGrov
[17:22] <moppers> YASHH, google chrome OS has some extra secret sauce n top of chromium OS. to get the goog version download the recovery script for a chromebook
[17:23] <DrGrov> betrayd: But I have not even installed nvidia-current. I have only installed nouveau on my 12.04.
[17:23] <betrayd> ah isee
[17:24] <DrGrov> Could someone please tell me how to reset my X server so I can finally get a *working* resolution without needing to mess around trying to find a xorg.conf setup or such?
[17:24] <YASHH> moppers, is that legal or thats how it works?
[17:26] <betrayd> DrGrov: there is no 'reset' unless you're talking about reinstall
[17:26] <aneks> YASHH, what version of ubuntu are you running?
[17:26] <YASHH> aneks, 12.04
[17:27] <litropy> DrGrov, If you've got to a blank screen while booting up, press CTRL + ALT + F1 to access the terminal. Then, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop Then, sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup Then, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg Then, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[17:27] <litropy> "Then," is not part of the commands.
[17:27] <aneks> YASHH, I'm running google chrome on 12.10, not chromium, I hope this link helps http://linuxg.net/how-to-install-google-chrome-on-ubuntu-12-04-ubuntu-12-10-linux-mint-13-linux-mint-14-or-debian-sid/
[17:28] <YASHH> thanks aneks i'll check it out
[17:28] <aneks> np :)
[17:28] <aneks> off to sleep
[17:29] <YASHH> aneks, is it better than ubuntu and does it support .exe directly??
[17:30] <litropy> YASHH, moppers and aneks are talking about two different things. Google Chrome is a web browser; Chrome OS is an Operating System like Ubuntu or Windows.
[17:31] <YASHH> oh!, i already have browser iam askin about OS
[17:31] <YASHH> sorry for the confusion guys!!
[17:31] <betrayd> DrGrov: what litropy said, but add your high resolution (right there), idk if you have to go through some 'custom' or see how high it can go
[17:32] <DJones> YASHH: This channel only supports Ubuntu and its official variants, you'll need to find a Chrome OS channel yourself
[17:32] <YASHH> djones,okay
[17:33] <DrGrov> betrayd: I know what my highest is and it still does not allow it. I made it what it was on the live 11.04 CD, 1360x768 but no luck. Still does not display anything.
[17:33] <DrGrov> So a reinstall of X server would be the best thing. yes?
[17:33] <betrayd> DrGrov: he asking to do a reconfigure
[17:33] <betrayd> DrGrov: a sudo dpkg-reconfigure
[17:34] <DrGrov> litropy: The problem is that I can not press CTRL + ALT + F1 when I booted up. The screen is still just blank and does not give me any choice but to reboot.
[17:34] <YASHH> how much of bytes does this xchat take (approximately)??
[17:35] <DrGrov> litropy: So I can use that tutorial you kindly posted for me anyhow even if I do not get into a tty? I just get into recovery mode.
[17:36] <litropy> DrGrov, Try CTRL+ALT+F3 ... somehow, I've had instances wherein F1 didn't bring something up. Also, you may be using a keyboard that requires you to also press your Fn button to get the true Function keystroke to be communicated. Fn is usually to the left of your left CTRL key.
[17:37] <litropy> DrGrov, yes. If you can gain access to a terminal, you can skip that step.
[17:38] <mzaza> How can I test graphics card frames per second?
[17:38] <litropy> DrGrov, Just a personal note: I can tell you that 1.5 years ago when I connected my Ubuntu box to my HDTV, I had to manually modify xorg.conf, and I wouldn't have done it without the help of the peeps in channel #xorg.
[17:39] <litropy> DrGrov, although it might have gotten easier.
[17:40] <mzaza> Is there an application which I could install to test video card frames/second?
[17:41] <MonkeyDust> mzaza  phoronix publishes such benchmarks, take a look there, how they do it
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> Mzaza: tuxcart etc can show fps
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> Mzaza: super tux can too
[17:42] <ActionParsnip> Fun games too :-)
[17:42] <mzaza> ActionParsnip: MonkeyDust I found glxspheres also, thanks :)
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> Looks trippy
[17:44] <DrGrov> litropy: Okay, I will do it from recovery mode and a terminal from there.
[17:44] <DrGrov> CTRL+ALT+F3 did not either work. Unfortunately.
[17:45] <DrGrov> litropy: Okay, I have had it right all along. I have the right xorg.conf modelines and xorg.conf safe as a backup.
[17:46] <DrGrov> litropy: I will join in on #xorg then after I first get some kind of resolution ;) Thanks. What was the command again? sudo dpkg... ?
[17:46] <litropy> DrGrov, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[17:46] <DrGrov> litropy: Thanks, I will do that now and see what gives.
[17:46] <gatox> hi..... i'm having problems with several raring images..... i've created a startup usb..... and i've try lot of combinations, using live cd, direct install, and choosing different options in the installer wizard...... but the installer GETS STUCK always in the second screen.... in the Wireless part..... does anyone know this issue?
[17:47] <theadmin> !raring | gatox
[17:47] <litropy> drgrov, yw
[17:47] <gatox> theadmin, what?
[17:47] <DrGrov> Hi again.
[17:47] <justdream> i have no d/e... i'm trying to format this hard drive to ext4 but am more familiar with gparted? how would i go about doing it from a shell?
[17:47] <theadmin> gatox: What ubottu said. Raring isn't a supported release yet.
[17:48] <theadmin> justdream: sudo mkfs.ext4 /dev/sda1
[17:48] <theadmin> justdream: To create partitions you can use parted or fdisk
[17:48] <litropy> theadmin, he's referring you to the channel #ubuntu+1, where the support for Raring is.
[17:48] <DrGrov> Did not work out, I apparently do not have xserver-xorg installed. Something else configures it?
[17:48] <litropy> gatox^^
[17:48] <DrGrov> litropy: What you think? I have to install xserver-xorg or reconfigure some other way?
[17:49] <gatox> thx
[17:49] <DrGrov> IIRC it uninstalled xserver-xorg due to nouveau... Not sure though...
[17:49] <justdream> theadmin: the harddrive appears to be corrupt i'm hoping that once i format it i will be able to install linux onto it from a live cd / usb
[17:49] <justdream> if it'll even format
[17:49] <justdream> the computer always gets angry and hangs up when ever you try to mount the HD
[17:49] <litropy> DrGrov, Hm. Ya, I'd install the package. Not sure what's driving your display right now and there might be conflicts, but I think I'd try it anyway.
[17:49] <theadmin> justdream: Oh. You can wipe the whole thing then: sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda # Warning! Make sure "sda" is really your hard drive. Disconnect all other storage devices if unsure
[17:50] <DrGrov> litropy: Okay, will install it. Brb.
[17:50] <litropy> DrGrov, who knows - it might solve all your problems.
[17:50] <betrayd> litropy: wouldn't it have nvidia-server in the name or something
[17:50] <justdream> theadmin: thank you so much thats actually the command i was lookin for
[17:50] <newlinuxusr> heloooo all
[17:51] <newlinuxusr> has ubuntu been released ?
[17:51] <lotuspsychje> !raring | newlinuxusr
[17:51] <litropy> DrGrov, no, it's supposed to talk to brand-specific modules. It's central to Ubuntu, not your brand.
[17:52] <Ari-Yang> hmm.. what options here should be enabled and disabled to get rid of video tearing? here's a screen shot: gyazo.com/07b65f43569b482278338aaad3a8903e any suggestions?
[17:52] <justdream> theadmin: dd stands for diskdump right?
[17:52] <theadmin> justdream: No idea what the heck it stands for, actually
[17:52] <theadmin> newlinuxusr: Ubuntu? Ubuntu has been released in 2004 :P
[17:53] <newlinuxusr> 13.04 :D
[17:53] <theadmin> newlinuxusr: If you mean the newest release, Raring, then no, not yet
[17:53] <korisnik> can somoeone help me i manul changed icon of trash can and now it shows alwies full
[17:54] <DrGrov> Haha, I am back. Now it is tweak time.
[17:54] <newlinuxusr> how many hrs before raring is released and for how many months will this be supported
[17:54] <newlinuxusr> i am on 12.04.2
[17:55] <MonkeyDust> newlinuxusr  depends on the timezone you're in
[17:55] <justdream> theadmin: tell me if you have ever ran across this problem... it occurs on every OS linux and windows.... the left mouse button on the touch pad of this laptop does not work... the strange thing is, any pointing devices i hook into the USB ports of the laptop, the left mouse button does not work.. i was thinking maybe the motherboard is bad, can't a bad mobo cause a computer to do funny things like that?
[17:55] <korisnik> trash can icon help me
[17:55] <lotuspsychje> !patience | korisnik
[17:55] <theadmin> newlinuxusr: I'm not sure how long the support will be, but I suggest you stay on the LTS branch. 'tis more stable.
[17:55] <newlinuxusr> umm
[17:55] <theadmin> newlinuxusr: Wait for 14.04 then upgrade
[17:56] <DrGrov> Whom did I just talk with?
[17:56] <DrGrov> I can not remember the nickname.
[17:56] <theadmin> justdream: uhhhhh... *Probably*, but I am no hardware person.
[17:56] <theadmin> korisnik: Wat.
[17:56] <lotuspsychje> DrGrov: litropy
[17:56] <bartzy> How do I make aptitude 'forget' about stuff that needs to be installed ?
[17:56] <DrGrov> lotuspsychje: Thank you :)
[17:56] <theadmin> bartzy: Clarify, please.
[17:56] <litropy> April 25th, newlinuxusr. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=ubuntu-release-cycle-2.png
[17:56] <DrGrov> litropy: Thank you, now it works out as intended. It was not right, xserver-xorg was right :)
[17:56] <korisnik> theadmin:  i changed icon of trashcan and now it alwies show full how to restor it to normal
[17:57] <bartzy> theadmin: when I do aptitude install , just like that without arguments - I get many packages to be installed. I don't want them to be installed, and I don't know what was causing that.
[17:57] <bartzy> so I just want to "start clean".
[17:57] <litropy> DrGrov, so you're done?
[17:57] <theadmin> bartzy: "install" without arguments for aptitude means, literally, install everything
[17:58] <sporkeee> bartzy, aptitude is deprecated you should not be using it.
[17:58] <theadmin> bartzy: Not a good idea.
[17:58] <MonkeyDust> bartzy  use apt-get, not aptitude
[17:58] <bartzy> MonkeyDust: Why ?
[17:58] <newlinuxusr> love u alll ubuntu users <3
[17:58] <theadmin> bartzy: Also, Aptitude is broken on 64-bit
[17:58] <DrGrov> litropy: Yes, for now. It is working as intended now. But I will definitely want to tweak my xorg.conf to a lot better state.
[17:58] <lotuspsychje> lol
[17:58] <DrGrov> Love you too newlinuxusr :)
[17:58] <bartzy> aptitude install gives me stuff to install - apt-get install does not
[17:58]  * DrGrov sings "Love is in the air" high and loud :)
[17:58] <korisnik> theadmin:  help me?
[17:58] <newlinuxusr> 13.04 will kick the hell outa windoze 8
[17:59] <MonkeyDust> !aptitude | bartzy
[17:59] <theadmin> bartzy: That's because apt-get and aptitude are entirely different programs -- apt-get usually works better.
[17:59] <sporkeee> bartzy, aptitude is not up on the arch stuff, you are asking for trouble basically.
[17:59] <theadmin> bartzy: They also have different syntax and commands have different meanings.
[17:59] <theadmin> korisnik: Ah, sorry, no idea about that problem.
[17:59] <lotuspsychje> newlinuxusr: you surely can discuss this in #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:59] <korisnik> theadmin:  ok np
[17:59] <bartzy> ok... but why 'aptitude install' gives me stuff to install, while 'apt-get install' does not ?
[18:00] <bartzy> also - I'm trying to install phpunit - and it wants to install apache with it. I don't understand why - since apache is not a dependency for phpunit, and I do have php5-cli installed.
[18:00] <theadmin> bartzy: Well, again, for aptitude, install without arguments means "install everything". For apt-get, install without arguments isn't even valid.
[18:00] <bartzy> theadmin: No, aptitude install without arguments mean - finish off your unfinished installations.
[18:01] <sporkeee> bartzy, bad apps will do bad things, just because a deprecated app that does not read correclty offres you updates is a bad arguement.
[18:01] <theadmin> bartzy: Hm. Then I suppose this is an issue with 64-bit (Aptitude is broken on 64-bit)
[18:01] <litropy> DrGrov, glad to hear it. X.Org tweaking is horrible; most users tweak it and forget it like a traumatic life experience. But those few people who deal with it regularly for whatever reason: job requirement, etc, are in #xorg.
[18:01] <theadmin> bartzy: Forgeet it and use apt-get -- will be better for you.
[18:01] <bartzy> theadmin: OK, what about my phpunit question ?
[18:01] <lotuspsychje> theadmin: i got 64-bit here, working fine here
[18:02] <theadmin> lotuspsychje: Which Ubuntu version?
[18:02] <lotuspsychje> theadmin: 12.10
[18:02] <DrGrov> litropy: Apparently I did not find anyone yet since the first idea I got was to install the nvidia drivers LOL :)
[18:02] <theadmin> bartzy: Hm... I can't see apache2 in phpunit's dependencies on 12.04, this is odd
[18:02] <theadmin> lotuspsychje: Means you never tried installing 32-bit packages, eh?
[18:02] <theadmin> lotuspsychje: That's when breakage arrives
[18:02] <bartzy> theadmin, 12.10.
[18:03] <DrGrov> litropy: And now I can use "Displays" from my xorg.conf information to vary my resolution. It is good, very good indeed. But one thing though, how can I see if my monitor does go over 60Hz at 1360x768?
[18:03] <bartzy> theadmin: And I don't see anywhere that aptitude is deprecated, actually it is the official installer that is used for debian installations.
[18:03] <bartzy> i.e. the debian net installer uses aptitude and not apt-get.
[18:03] <lotuspsychje> theadmin: ah no i did not
[18:03] <theadmin> bartzy: Debian isn't multiarch yet
[18:03] <theadmin> bartzy: Ubuntu is
[18:03] <justdream> bartzy: are synaptic and aptitude the same thing? just curious...
[18:04] <theadmin> justdream: Nay, Synaptic uses apt-get as a backend
[18:04] <litropy> bartzy, using aptitude isn't recommended by many anymore -- something about aptitude contributors dropping the ball in keeping things up to date. apt-get will do everything you need.
[18:04] <sporkeee> bartzy, Kinda hard headed now aren't you. ;)
[18:04] <justdream> theadmin: i see, so is just a gui for apt-get?
[18:04] <theadmin> justdream: More or less
[18:04] <sporkeee> thick like a brick, lol
[18:04] <litropy> DrGrov, hang on ...
[18:05] <bartzy> sporkeee: Well, I don't see anything written on 'aptitude is bad' on the web. anywhere...
[18:05] <justdream> theadmin: my friend made something like that for gentoo called noobjuice
[18:05] <DrGrov> litropy: Thanks.
[18:05] <theadmin> justdream: Bwahaha... GUI package manager on Gentoo? Seriously?... Dude.
[18:05] <wilee-nilee> bartzy, look up multiarch and aptitude
[18:05] <Trae32566-NE> hey..debian user here..having some issues with byobu and tmux in 10.04 LTS
[18:05] <czz> gpg: decryption failed: secret key not available
[18:05] <czz> Not sure what to do
[18:05] <bartzy> what do I care about multiarch ?
[18:05] <DrGrov> litropy: I will be right back though, gotta reboot to confirm working setup.
[18:06] <justdream> theadmin: more than just a package manager you can also configure your kernel and edit config files too
[18:06] <wilee-nilee> bartzy, You are using it with ubuntu.
[18:06] <Trae32566-NE> for some convoluted reason, byobu-select-backend isn't included in byobu, and neither is byobu-tmux. Are the packages for 10.04 so old that byobu didn't support anything but screen at that point?
[18:06] <feasty> #debian
[18:06] <justdream> is a gui for emerge, make menuconfig, and some other little things idr off the top of my head
[18:06] <bartzy> wilee-nilee: I'm using 12.10 for months now, using aptitude always, installing :i386 packages, nothing ever happened, everything is working awesome. Where is the bug ?
[18:06] <theadmin> Trae32566-NE: I think so -- I'm pretty sure byobu-tmux is fairly new
[18:07] <Trae32566-NE> crap, alright.
[18:07] <justdream> theadmin: that dd command may take some time aye? is a 640 gb hd
[18:07] <justdream> sata
[18:07] <theadmin> justdream: Yeah will likely take a while
[18:08] <Trae32566-NE> heh, you wanna see progress...run it in verbose mode, Lol
[18:08] <bartzy> theadmin: Any idea why phpunit wants to install apache2.2-bin ? :\
[18:08] <theadmin> justdream: Send USR1 to it and you can see the current progress
[18:08] <justdream> Trae32566-NE: you mean progress on dd right?
[18:08] <justdream> theadmin: how do i do that?
[18:08] <theadmin> justdream: killall -USR1 dd
[18:08] <Trae32566-NE> justdream, yes
[18:09] <Trae32566-NE> don't do it though, it's spammy as hell
[18:09] <justdream> theadmin: should i run it with sudo?
[18:09] <theadmin> justdream: Not sure, actually.
[18:10] <justdream> theadmin: well i ran dd with sudo so imma run that command with sudo too
[18:10] <wilee-nilee> bartzy, here is one, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/aptitude/+bug/831768 here is another https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/aptitude/+bug/845183
[18:10] <bartzy> php-file-iterator depends on php5 which depends on apache
[18:10] <bartzy> wtf :\
[18:11] <wilee-nilee> older bugs but relevant
[18:11] <theadmin> bartzy: Ubuntu packaging has always been a bit senseless if you ask me :/
[18:11] <justdream> theadmin: it works :)
[18:11] <bartzy> theadmin: I find debian packages to be much more concise in dependencies.
[18:11] <justdream> you are very brilliant my friend
[18:11] <jjpintor> hi anyone know how to automatically switch workspaces?
[18:12] <justdream> jjpintor: as in if you drag your mouse to the edge of the screen and it will just automatically switch to the next work space?
[18:12] <pyroscope> jjpintor:  wmctrl
[18:12] <jjpintor> nope, no human interaction...
[18:12] <justdream> jjpintor: try what pyroscope suggested
[18:12] <jjpintor> automatically switch workspaces like a slide show
[18:13] <justdream> jjpintor: what DE are you using?
[18:13] <jjpintor> 10.04desktp
[18:13] <PuffTheMagic> anyone know how to update PAM to a newer version on Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS
[18:13] <jjpintor> wmctrl..how to install  that?
[18:13] <justdream> no no i mean are you using gnome? kde? xfce? etc etc what are you using for a desktop environment?
[18:13] <PuffTheMagic> im pretty sure the current version 5.5 and I need 5.8
[18:13] <PuffTheMagic> or higher
[18:13] <pyroscope> wmctrl -o $vp_x,$vp_y
[18:14] <MaynardWaters> hello, I have a dell precision T5500 which I have installed 12.04 LTS on. I am getting some libGL errors. http://pastebin.com/reMajqcp
[18:14] <pyroscope> where the variable are viewport offsets
[18:14] <justdream> jjpintor: sudo apt-get install wmctrl
[18:14] <justdream> im pretty sure its already on your system tho
[18:14] <MaynardWaters> The errors deal with FireGL
[18:14] <jjpintor> hmmm.. i dont knw the DE of it...pre-installed
[18:14] <pegmanm> I have about 32 servers to deploy in a DC. I have a known working lucid image to use on these. But for the first time I am seeing issues with interface numbering. There is a 4 port broadcome and 2 port intel in these hosts. The numbering is confusing. I am seeing eth 0 & eth1 as broadcom and eth2 as intel with eth4&5 as the last two broadcom ports. Using a 2.X kernel I did not have this behaviour.
[18:14] <MaynardWaters> I went to find the drivers on http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/fire/Legacy/Pages/fire_linux.aspx?type=2.4.3&product=2.4.3.3.2.3.14&lang=English
[18:14] <MaynardWaters> but, the driver doesnt want to work
[18:15] <MaynardWaters> any help welcome
[18:15] <justdream> jjpintor: take a screenshot and send us a link
[18:15] <justdream> or there is probably a command that will tell you what DE you are using.. but i don't know it
[18:15] <AndroUser2> Hot to get unity working after a bad fglrx installation. I have purged fglrx. But still unity failes to load after login
[18:16] <jjpintor> ok... wmctrl can auto switch workspaces without human interaction?
[18:16] <MaynardWaters> AndroUser2: is that similar to my problem?
[18:16] <justdream> jjpintor: i'm not sure ask pyroscope
[18:16] <AndroUser2> MaynardWaters: i dont know
[18:16] <jjpintor> pyroscope,  wmctrl can auto switch workspaces without human interaction?
[18:17] <pyroscope> anyway, here goes my problem: probably since the update to nvidia-current 304.88-0ubuntu0.0.2 in a twinview setup on 12.04, when i switch off the monitors, windows start to gets auto-placed / shuffled (i.e. I "suddenly" have a power-off automatism I don't want)
[18:17] <AndroUser2> I installed fglrx through software center
[18:17] <pyroscope> any clues as to how to disable that?
[18:17] <jjpintor> is there a code to identify the DE thing?
[18:18] <justdream> pyroscope: i remember back in the day i used to have that problem with a DE called enlightenment (e16) and there was this command i would have to type to get my windows back
[18:19] <tortik> Hi all. sudo apt-get install doxygen installs also doxygen-latex which is optional. How can I disable such behaviour?
[18:19] <justdream> pyroscope: some of them would just completely disappear off the screen or get shuffled around like you are talking about
[18:20] <pyroscope> jjpintor:  yes. what do you actually wanna do?
[18:20] <theadmin> tortik: Either --no-install-recommends or --no-install-suggests
[18:21] <justdream> pyroscope: he wants to be able to switch workspaces automatically with no human interaction and he is also trying to figure out what desktop environment he is using
[18:21] <jjpintor> pyroscope, i want to auto switch the workspaces like from desktop1 to desktop5 and the interval is 5secs each
[18:22] <Malgorath> What is the ubuntu command line utility called for network configuration(setting static ip)?
[18:22] <jjpintor> justdream, thanks
[18:22] <ukbeast> anyone with ndiswrapper?
[18:22] <pyroscope> jjpintor:  see above, wmctrl -o with toggling the x/y values
[18:23] <tortik> theadmin: thanks. does that option affects on installed programs? will the work?
[18:23] <theadmin> tortik: No, only on new installations.
[18:23] <ukbeast> I am getting  "loadndisdriver: load_driver(364): couldn't load driver netr28x"
[18:24] <pyroscope> justdream:  maybe i'll bite the bullet and write a fix positions script for my "usual" windows
[18:24] <tortik> theadmin: no, no. I made a mistake. I mean about new installations... If I install with that parameter will my programms be workable / useable?
[18:24] <theadmin> tortik: Surely
[18:24] <tortik> theadmin: ok, thanks
[18:25] <jjpintor> pyroscope, cant understand this wmctrl -o "$vp_x,$vp_y"<<part
[18:25] <gevire> Hello, I'm interested in this ubuntu phone in development, specifically I wanted to know if it is fully open, and if so where the sources/github for it would be, or does it contain non-free applications/libs?
[18:25] <mojtaba> Hi, Does anybody know how can I import my emails and other things from ms outlook 2010 to thunderbird? as I have recently switched to ubuntu.
[18:25] <pyroscope> torpet:  depends on whether you NEED the recoomends w/o explicitely installing them so far ;)
[18:25] <justdream> pyroscope: could i watch you, so that i can learn?
[18:25] <pyroscope> jjpintor:  go to vp5
[18:25] <pyroscope> open a terminal, enter    wmctrl -o 0,0
[18:26] <pyroscope> scream Heureka!
[18:26] <jjpintor> pyroscope, sorry im new to this..how to go to vp5?
[18:26] <ukbeast> ndiswrapper 1.58  module does load, but ndiswrapper does not load the windows driver
[18:26] <justdream> jjpintor: run          wmctrl -o 0,0     from a terminal
[18:27] <Malgorath> What is the ubuntu command line utility called for network configuration(setting static ip)?
[18:27] <Benek> ifconfig?
[18:27] <pyroscope> jjpintor:  in whichever way that works on your WM
[18:28] <pyroscope> unity has a workspace switcher
[18:28] <Malgorath> Benek: thanks for trying but thats not the utility specific to ubuntu, that is a generic linux command for interface work
[18:28] <jjpintor> pyroscope, what is the 0,0 part???
[18:28] <theadmin> Malgorath: I don't think Ubuntu has any specific one.
[18:28] <ali4ever4> Is it a good idea to use Ubuntu on raspberry Pi to make a home theater system
[18:29] <pyroscope> wmctrl -o $vp_x,$vp_y // where the variables are viewport offsets
[18:29] <justdream> a URL in links? so that i can send malgorath a link on how to configure his network from a shell?
[18:29] <justdream> how do i copy a url in links*
[18:29] <diverdude> if only i knew why ubuntu was so popular and people say linux is so insanely stable....In average ubuntu seems to crash 1-2 times per day, it over heats my processor and its insanely slow in the gui and movie playback is lagging...what is it again that is so nice about this system?
[18:29] <theadmin> ali4ever4: Ubuntu has no support for Raspberry Pi.
[18:29] <justdream> diverdude: then use a different distro
[18:29] <Malgorath> justdream: I don't want to manually edit files. I will find it on ym own
[18:29] <justdream> Malgorath: what do you want to do?
[18:30] <pyroscope> ali4ever4:  raspbmc
[18:30] <jjpintor> i just entered it ..what will happen now??
[18:30] <Malgorath> justdream: as stated, I want to find the package that is the commandline gui to configure the network settings (aka static IPs and such)
[18:30] <Benek> Malgorath, gnome-nettool?
[18:30] <Malgorath> Benek: notice the 'gnome' part of that, that is not a commandline gui, that is a gnome based application.
[18:31] <mojtaba> Hi, Does anybody know how can I import my emails and other things from ms outlook 2010 to thunderbird? as I have recently switched to ubuntu.
[18:31] <ali4ever4> Theadmin: you mean it don't have the drivers? And which distro is best for this in this case?
[18:31] <jjpintor> pyroscope, my DE is gni
[18:31] <jjpintor> pyroscope, my DE is gnome classic
[18:31] <jjpintor> what will happen now..i entered wmctrl -o 0,0
[18:31] <theadmin> ali4ever4: Check raspberrypi's website, the Downloads section, for the supported distributions.
[18:31] <Benek> Malgorath,  right, you wanted command line, I didn't see that. I think ifconfig is the simplest one, if you find simpler, please let me know
[18:32] <pyroscope> wmctrl -o 1920,0 # use that
[18:32] <pyroscope> assuming a full hd display
[18:32] <jjpintor> nothin' happening
[18:32] <justdream> Malgorath: pretty much anything you can do with a GUI you can do from a terminal... the guis are just a front end of the commands that the os executes
[18:33] <servvs> is it safe to use the raring repository for gnome on a machine running quantal?
[18:33] <OerHeks>  servvs no.
[18:33] <ali4ever4> Theadmin, pyroscope thanks
[18:33] <theadmin> servvs: No, mixing repositories is always a bad idea
[18:34] <mojtaba> Hi, Does anybody know how can I import my emails and other things from ms outlook 2010 to thunderbird? as I have recently switched to ubuntu.
[18:34] <mzaza> I am on Sony vaio s and my fest touches the touchpad while typing and it misses everything up, is there a way to disable touchpad while typing?
[18:34] <servvs> so is there any way I can get gnome 3.8 on my system without compiling from source?
[18:34] <Martinjo84> mojtaba: here is a link its pretty ole but you can try it out http://nepallica.com/how-to-import-outlook-message-to-thunderbird-on-ubuntu-10-04-lucid/#.UXbUC6Bkc7w
[18:34] <OerHeks> servvs, yes, wait 2 more days for 13.04 release
[18:35] <Malgorath> justdream: Benek, its called network-config (package name)
[18:35] <servvs> I don't want 13.04 though, my system works just fine, just want to update gnome, oh well I guess
[18:36] <mzaza> I am on Sony vaio s and my fest touches the touchpad while typing and it misses everything up, is there a way to disable touchpad while typing?
[18:37] <jjpintor> pyroscope, nothin' happening with the 1920,0
[18:37] <justdream> Malgorath: glad you found what you were looking for. i'll make a mental note of that so if anyone ask the same question i'll be able to answer it
[18:37] <ali4ever4> Anyone have experience if Ubuntu have any issues with the bios or the bootloader of lenovo think pad t530
[18:38] <pyroscope> jjpintor:  it would be a good step to ensure you actually HAVE multiple workspaces on one desktop
[18:38] <anew> how can i see the entire output of what i am running, it always gets cut off at the top and i can never see from where it started until now
[18:38] <jjpintor> pyroscope, i have already put up 10 workspaces
[18:38] <justdream> pyroscope: how does he tell what DE he is using? he doesn't even know what DE he is using but i bet it's gnome
[18:39] <jjpintor> justdream, my DE gnome classic
[18:39] <anew> anyone?
[18:39] <Pici> anew: if its a cli program, you could run it through less
[18:40] <Pici> anew: like: ps aux| less
[18:40] <pyroscope> wmctrl -d # paste that oputput
[18:40] <ezra-s> anew, if you are using gnome terminal in preferences you can set unlimited buffer so you can scroll up all you may need
[18:40] <anew> ah ok will do less
[18:41] <anew> but where do i put the command i want to run?
[18:41] <mojtaba> Martinjo84: thank you, I will check it
[18:41] <anew> perl artesum.pl ps aux| less
[18:41] <anew> ?
[18:41] <justdream> jhow do i copy the URL of the page that i am on in links so that someone a link?
[18:42] <justdream> so that i can send someone*
[18:42] <MonkeyDust> anew  does not look like a beginner's command, start with the basis
[18:42] <anew> i mean i want to run a perl script called this.pl
[18:42] <Martinjo84> mojtaba: most people use imap these days, so you just set up the account at thunderbird will sync your mails :D
[18:42] <anew> and see the entire outpput
[18:42] <anew> how would i do that
[18:42] <anew> perl this.pl ps aux|less ?
[18:43] <Pici> anew: perl this.pl | less
[18:43] <mojtaba> Martinjo84: I know that, but I have some emails in my .pst files which are not on server anymore.
[18:43] <anew> ah ok thx
[18:45] <jjpintor> pyroscope, 0 * DG: 1600x900 VP:0,0 WA: 0,24 1600x852 d
[18:45] <fruitbasket> The settings menu in flash won't let me click anything. What can I do to fix it/
[18:45] <jjpintor> pyroscope, 0 * DG: 1600x900 VP:0,0 WA: 0,24 1600x852 Desk1
[18:45] <jjpintor> pyroscope, from 1 - 9 VP: N/A
[18:46] <darkrebas> hello
[18:46] <pyroscope> jjpintor:  switching workspaces requires having more than one
[18:46] <pyroscope> you don't
[18:47] <pyroscope> 0  * DG: 13440x1600  VP: 0,0  WA: 53,24 4427x1521  N/A
[18:47] <pyroscope> that is mine, at 3x1 VPs
[18:47] <jjpintor> pyroscope, but why is 1 - 9 workspaces VP: N/A ?
[18:51] <darkrebas> im having isues with my sound card.  i believe the driver isnt installed
[18:52] <pyroscope> install ubuntu tweak, then it's "workspace" settings
[18:55] <jjpintor> pyroscope, apt-get install ubuntu-tweak?
[18:58] <MonkeyDust> jjpintor  if you paln to upgrade to 13.04: unity-tweak has ubuntu-tweak integrated
[18:59] <MonkeyDust> plan*
[19:00] <jjpintor> anyone know how to install LinPopUp?
[19:04] <theadmin> jjpintor: The last update to that project was in 2007. It's very likely that it doesn't work anymore.
[19:05] <jjpintor> theadmin, is it possible to reprogram it to meet the standards today?
[19:05] <Kircle> I'm looking at a AMD motherboard that has built in Radeon HD 7000 series graphics. Would I be able to use that in parallel with the CPU's IGP under Linux?
[19:06] <theadmin> jjpintor: ...You can sure try, but... You'll need skills in GTK and whatever language that is written in
[19:06] <genii-around> The last Ubuntu linpopup was included in was Hardy ( 8.04)
[19:06] <OerHeks> old tutorial linpopup http://www.techgenie.com/latest/how-to-install-winpopup-linpopup-in-ubuntu/
[19:07] <theadmin> OerHeks: That assumes linpopup is in the repos, no longer the case
[19:07] <jjpintor> theadmin, yep im developing it on GTK3...will this be helpful to others if I can eventually finish it?
[19:08] <theadmin> jjpintor: Maybe. I'm not sure, the program is useful only for those message things provided by samba which you can do via the commandline anyway
[19:08] <makerbreakr> has anyone run into SSD problems with 12.04?
[19:08] <makerbreakr> (intel mobo)
[19:09] <wilee-nilee> !ask | makerbreakr
[19:09] <makerbreakr> i didnt really ask to ask a question
[19:09] <jjpintor> theadmin, thanks
[19:09] <czz> Anyone mind helping me with an issue?
[19:09] <wilee-nilee> !details | makerbreakr okay how about this.
[19:09] <czz> This is an error message I am getting while trying to decrypt a message: "gpg: decryption failed: secret key not available"
[19:09] <makerbreakr> Im not really sure where to get started on this problem;  I cant find anything in google.  intel i3, ssd, ubuntu server 12.04; it boots to grub
[19:10] <makerbreakr> grub starts the chainloader, but then no HD lights
[19:10] <wilee-nilee> makerbreakr, This a UEFI setup?
[19:10] <makerbreakr> kind of, its for digital signange (and I have no control over what mobo they order)
[19:10] <quantum> Anyone know what happens when S3 sleep?
[19:11] <genii-around> jjpintor: Conceivably you can just make a zenity script to interface to smbclient -M
[19:11] <quantum> I need to run a script after wake.
[19:11] <makerbreakr> so essentially, it needs X, a browser, and it acts like a webserver
[19:11] <Kilroyy> Hi
[19:11] <ThePendulum> When I try to run UNetbootin, I'm asked for an administrative password... Any idea what this password might be (since it's not the one I set)?
[19:11] <makerbreakr> but yes, it is also UEFI
[19:12] <wilee-nilee> ThePendulum, Should be the user password, did you make a root password?
[19:12] <makerbreakr> i guess i can try updating the bios too
[19:12] <ThePendulum> wilee-nilee: I did, and when I enter that, it won't accept it
[19:12] <theadmin> ThePendulum: unetbootin is stupid and tries to authenticate via su
[19:12] <wilee-nilee> ThePendulum, Never make a root password in ubuntu, and it wants the iser password.
[19:12] <wilee-nilee> user*
[19:13] <theadmin> ThePendulum: Simply run it as administrator manually, "gksudo unetbootin"
[19:13] <starchil1> Anyone know a good screencapture recorder and editor combo that is easy to use.
[19:13] <ThePendulum> wilee-nilee: Well I'm actually not sure if I made a root password. Probably not, then.
[19:13] <Kilroyy> So I'm a total Linux noob (installed ubuntu all of 4 days ago) but I gotta say I'm loving it.
[19:13] <starchil1> I tried recordmydesktop but the output file wasn't compatible with Kino
[19:13] <ThePendulum> theadmin: I guess the issue is that gksudo wasn't installed at first
[19:14] <BlazeFaia> Hi. Could someone help me out? I'm a new Ubuntu user (as of today) and I'm having a problem with the log in system.
[19:14] <stupidpassword> Anyone know how to set the voltage of the GPU using the radeon driver?
[19:14] <ThePendulum> I guess I should wait for 14.04LTS
[19:15] <moppers> BlazeFaia, no one can read your mind, what is the question?
[19:15] <wilee-nilee> ThePendulum, gksudo is installed in a stock setup, are you running ubuntu?
[19:15] <ThePendulum> wilee-nilee: Yeah, but I am running the 13.04 beta.
[19:15] <ThePendulum> Even though 13.04 is still in beta as we speak, I don't see it getting polished before the 25th. I'm going to skip this one.
[19:16] <wilee-nilee> ThePendulum, strange gksudo should be working, until release you want the #ubuntu+1 channel in general. ;)
[19:16] <ThePendulum> wilee-nilee: Yeah, I know, just stating that I'm running 13.04 to clarify that
[19:16] <theadmin> Hm, maybe gksudo was taken out because it's no longer really required by most of the apps in the repos (PolicyKit is now the main authentication mecahism used by GUIs)
[19:17] <wilee-nilee> theadmin, runs in my 13.04 setup.
[19:17] <theadmin> wilee-nilee: Odd.
[19:17] <theadmin> wilee-nilee: (as in, the part it's not there for ThePendulum
[19:17] <theadmin> )
[19:17] <ThePendulum> I had to install it manually
[19:17] <wilee-nilee> with password errors in their setup I suspect something is up
[19:18] <jjpintor> theadmin, is Linpopup available on 10.04?
[19:18] <wilee-nilee> ThePendulum, You have a desktop right not a server?
[19:18] <ThePendulum> wilee-nilee: Yeah, this is a regular desktop 13.04 x64 installation running on a modern fully-functional (desktop) PC
[19:18] <ThePendulum> No odds
[19:18] <theadmin> jjpintor: As someone said above, the last release wherein it was included was Hardy, which isn't even supported anymore
[19:19] <ThePendulum> Anyway, brb, going to install 12.043
[19:19] <ThePendulum> *04
[19:19] <jjpintor> theadmin, thanks again
[19:19] <ThePendulum> Thanks for the help none the less :)
[19:19] <BlazeFaia_> Okay, something happened and I wasn't getting any messages. Not sure if what I said went through or not. But I just installed 12.10 today and set up my username and password. But on the welcome screen it says the password is wrong. I went into recovery mode to change the password but it said password unchanged, which makes me believe my password was correct to begin with.
[19:20] <pyroscope> BlazeFaia_:  take note of caps lock and keyboard layout settings
[19:20] <pyroscope> that's the usual causes
[19:21] <wilee-nilee> BlazeFaia_, With a fresh install I would check the sum of the install media and reinstall, if not a cap problem.
[19:21] <jjpintor> theadmin, do you know how to automate workspace switching?
[19:21] <BlazeFaia_> Capslock is off, as was when I made the password. Where do I check the keyboard layout? Top right of the screen? The only available option is en.
[19:21] <pyroscope> jjpintor:  step 1: have mor ethan one workspace
[19:21] <theadmin> jjpintor: ...How the heck can you "automate" that? Like switch the workspace every 5 seconds? That doesn't even make sense
[19:23] <jjpintor> theadmin, its like a ticker...in a website, every 5 secs the content refreshes or more like a slideshow
[19:23] <jjpintor> pyroscope, you mean monitors?
[19:23] <theadmin> jjpintor: Eh... Still doesn't make sense. I don't think Unity has a way to switch workspaces via the command-line, and as such it won't be possible to automate
[19:24] <chudler> anyone know what happened with this? https://code.launchpad.net/~mterry/lightdm/shut-down-dbus/+merge/72779
[19:24] <chudler> did it make its way into the greeter? obsolete problem? anything?
[19:25] <theadmin> chudler: As said, "Rejected". Probably means this is unnecessary.
[19:25] <pyroscope> theadmin:  i just did, on my unity
[19:25] <chudler> I am aware it was rejected. I am asking if development proceeded as suggested there
[19:26] <theadmin> pyroscope: "I'm closing this merge request because the daemon doesn't know about what the sessions are doing and it is their responsibility to clean up.". Meaning no, it was rejected and everything is like it was before?
[19:26] <jjpintor> theadmin, pyroscope did it on his pc
[19:27] <theadmin> jjpintor, pyroscope: Well, then you two figure out how to do it
[19:27] <chudler> theadmin: did you keep reading what he wrote or just stop? If you don't know the status of it you don't have to answer as to what that page says, I can see that just fine.
[19:27] <SuperBawlz> Easy problem, my apache server doesn't appear to be working with my MySQL server. When I do phpinfo() I noticed that it says --without-mysql in the configure command
[19:28] <jjpintor> theadmin, ok then...sorry for disturbing
[19:28] <SuperBawlz> how do I fix it?
[19:28] <jjpintor> pyroscope, how to have multiple workspace?
[19:28] <pyroscope> that way → https://pastee.org/k8h7d
[19:28] <theadmin> chudler: Well, I'm just judging from the link... That's about all anyone can say, right? As far as I know, dbus isn't stopped if lightdm is shut down or the session quits
[19:29] <theadmin> chudler: Mainly because Upstart itself relies on dbus nowadays so...
[19:29] <jjpintor> pyro?
[19:30] <chudler> maybe you don't know about dbus --autostart, or generally what they're referring to? Anyway, I guess it wasn't moved into the greeter as I couldnt find it. I hoped someone here might have a clue about that
[19:30] <pyroscope> jjpintor:  you have one workspace. one. 1. cannot switch with one.
[19:31] <chudler> alternatively, you're saying lightdm spawns the session dbus before the greeter *nowadays*
[19:31] <jjpintor> pyroscope, 0 * DG: 1600x900 VP:0,0 WA: 0,24 1600x852 Desk1
[19:32] <jjpintor> pyroscope, 1 * DG: 1600x900 VP:N/A WA: 0,24 1600x852 Desk2
[19:32] <jjpintor> pyroscope, 2 * DG: 1600x900 VP:N/A WA: 0,24 1600x852 Desk3
[19:32] <jjpintor> pyroscope, 3 * DG: 1600x900 VP:N/A WA: 0,24 1600x852 Desk4
[19:32] <thrillERboy> Hey Guys, If I install ubuntu 13.04 beta, will it be updated to normal 13.04 once its out? Like if I install the updates?
[19:32] <pyroscope> that is multiple desktops, a quite different thing
[19:32] <theadmin> thrillERboy: Yes
[19:32] <christoff522> yes thrill
[19:33] <jjpintor> for the love of...
[19:33] <jjpintor> the term is "multiple desktops" sheesh
[19:33] <thrillERboy> Nice, My ubuntu 12.04 is crashed. Don't know if I should install full version in 2 days or the beta.
[19:33] <DJones> !final | thrillERboy
[19:34] <jjpintor> pyroscope, i want that multiple desktop to cycle like a slideshow..is it possible?
[19:34] <MonkeyDust> jjpintor  ctrl-alt arrow
[19:34] <pyroscope> man wmctrl and find out how to select a desktop
[19:35] <jjpintor> no, i want it to automate... like a slideshow
[19:35] <pyroscope> followed by "man bash" then
[19:37] <jjpintor> pyroscope, you know how to make the multiple desktop slideshow?
[19:38] <thrillERboy> I have installed ubuntu (root filesystem) in a seperate partition, and mounted home folder in a different partition, Now ubuntu has crashed, (not really, I can still use it under recovery mode) uninstalled some essential graphic drivers. How should I go about reinstall and get all my files back? Should I rewrite the root filesystem and mount the home folder to the same partition? Should I have the same username and password? Home 
[19:39] <pyroscope> jjpintor:  read the manpage, and you know too
[19:39] <jjpintor> can you teach me?
[19:40] <christoff522> thrill that would work, i always keep the same usernname and pass
[19:40] <christoff522> all you need to do is reinstall, and make sure on the partitioner to mark the home drive as /home and format the / drive
[19:41] <karanga> Hi, Does anyone know if there is support for ALPS touchpads yet running 13.04. It would appear that the 12.10 'fixes' don't work on the latest kernel release?
[19:41] <john__> hi all
[19:42] <thrillERboy> christoff522: using the same username means, it'll create a home folder under that name, if its a fresh install, I'm afraid it'll do the same and erase my previous files :|
[19:42] <john__> Thrill
[19:42] <MonkeyDust> thrillERboy  backup first
[19:42] <john__> Heard of backups
[19:43] <john__> Yes they WILL screw up your syste,
[19:43] <thrillERboy> john__ MonkeyDust I think I have backups enabled in Dejadup :D
[19:43] <john__> three18ti,
[19:44] <pyroscope> being SURE about backups is often the better option ;)
[19:44] <Derp> ^^
[19:44] <john__> thrillERboy,  so do I. But check a restore first
[19:44] <three18ti> john__, ?
[19:45] <Derp> esse chat é do debian ?
[19:45] <thrillERboy> john__: how can I do it? can I do it with CLI? I can't use GUI anymore
[19:45] <john__> thrillERboy,  restore sometimes works for me. But I belive that a local a net and then the master is the rule
[19:45] <john__> two backups
[19:46] <christoff522> no it doesnt wipe it, just make sure it isn't marked to be formatted thrill
[19:46] <john__> one local one net
[19:46] <christoff522> keeping the username means you don't have to change anything
[19:46] <john__> make both then quibble
[19:46] <christoff522> i have kept the same home folder for months, and installed lmde, linux mint 4 or 5 times
[19:46] <thrillERboy> john__: all of the content i'm worried about can be downloaded from the internetz anyway :D
[19:46] <Derp> this is dont dedian ??
[19:47] <Derp> or ubuntu brasl
[19:47] <john__> thrillERboy, no worries then
[19:47] <thrillERboy> john__: just worried about the time it takes. Thanks a lot. :)
[19:47] <christoff522> well try it, if you have nothing to lose, at least try to keep your home folder
[19:47] <christoff522> then you will have learned something from it
[19:47] <Loshki> thrillERboy: yes, a reinstall will recreate /home/user. Use the same username and you can just remount your existing home partition as /home and be pretty much back where you were before it crashed...
[19:47] <Loshki> !br | Derp
[19:48] <thrillERboy> christoff522: That is what I'm going to try, I think a trick like that, may come in handy some day :)
[19:48] <christoff522> if you're using ubuntu it will be pretty straight forward just clikc "use as /home" and make sure where it says format it says no
[19:49] <Loshki> thrillERboy: just be sure that you don't accidentally reformat your existing home partition..
[19:49] <christoff522> im now on debian wheezy and this is the same home folder the lmde, through to linux mint 14, then 13, then lmde again
[19:49] <christoff522> and now debian
[19:49] <christoff522> so its pretty useful
[19:49] <thrillERboy> Loshki: So, if the home folder for the username already exists, installer will just remount it, not recreate a fresh one?
[19:50] <thrillERboy> Loshki: LOL I'm gonna check like 28 times for that, before clicking next button
[19:50] <john__> christoff522> : your a Pi boy
[19:50] <john__> ?
[19:50] <SimonM> hai
[19:50] <Derp> thios is ubuntun BR
[19:50] <john__> Well that is bloody wondefull.. So am I
[19:50] <SimonM> I've been having a problem
[19:50] <christoff522> john_ what does that mean?
[19:50] <SimonM> And I'm looking for someone to help me....
[19:51] <thrillERboy> SimonM: what that would be?
[19:51] <john__> With what?
[19:51] <SimonM> I've been really stupid
[19:51] <christoff522> a pi boy
[19:51] <SimonM> and tried to dual boot windows 7 and ubuntu
[19:51] <thrillERboy> SimonM: can't help with that. sorry.
[19:51] <troulouliou_dev> hi i have permenent micro freeze on my dell M6700 ; is there any diag tool that could find the reason ?
[19:51] <christoff522> okay simonM I think I can help
[19:51] <SimonM> and now when I start up my pc nothing start up
[19:51] <christoff522> okay did you install windows after ubuntu?
[19:51] <SimonM> I'm now using a live mode usb thingy ubuntu
[19:51] <SimonM> no
[19:52] <christoff522> oh
[19:52] <SimonM> windows was already installed
[19:52] <christoff522> try to reinstall again
[19:52] <christoff522> it may just be a glitch
[19:52] <SimonM> could that fix it?
[19:52] <christoff522> try reinstalling ubuntu
[19:52] <SimonM> because when I start up
[19:52] <SimonM> just a grey screen shows
[19:53] <thrillERboy> SimonM: You see the GRUB menu?
[19:53] <SimonM> well I'll try that :)
[19:53] <SimonM> nope
[19:53] <SimonM> nothing
[19:53] <john__> Believe me anyone who tries a double boot of windows and linux is not stupid. Unless it's on a Pi
[19:53] <Loshki> thrillERboy: It's safer to have the installer ignore your existing /home partition completely. It will create a new, empty /home/user, and then you can use the new, empty /home as the mount point for the old /home partition.
[19:53] <SimonM> well
[19:53] <SimonM> I did it stupid, because I didn't back up...
[19:53] <john__> It just aint go enogh RAM
[19:53] <SimonM> well another thing I should mention
[19:54] <SimonM> I did the option install along side windows
[19:54] <christoff522> ahhh
[19:54] <SimonM> but then I did it on my external hard drive
[19:54] <thrillERboy> Loshki: That sounds much better approach. Thanks :)
[19:54] <SimonM> so not really along side
[19:54] <christoff522> yeah
[19:54] <christoff522> thats definitely the issue
[19:54] <SimonM> probably
[19:54] <christoff522> if you install anything on an external hard drive, you need to take your internal out
[19:54] <christoff522> because of the bootloaders
[19:54] <SimonM> so reinstalling might fix it?
[19:55] <christoff522> well what you need to deal with is your internal hard drive
[19:55] <pyroscope> SimonM:  the usual way is to shrink the windows primary partition using gparted, then install ubuntu into the free space
[19:55] <thrillERboy> SimonM: Install it on your internal hard drive, it'll fix it
[19:55] <john__> Hightway to hell seems cleerly lit. Rock on <christoff522>
[19:55] <SimonM> ok
[19:55] <Adam__> Hello!
[19:55] <SimonM> and how do I fix the external hard drive back to normal?
[19:55] <christoff522> well
[19:55] <SimonM> no data was on it
[19:55] <Adam__> How make my own OS based on Ubuntu?
[19:55] <thrillERboy> SimonM: then just format it
[19:56] <SimonM> so that is no problem
[19:56] <SimonM> ok
[19:56] <christoff522> disconnect your internal hard drive
[19:56] <SimonM> ty vm
[19:56] <christoff522> then install on your external
[19:56] <christoff522> just as normal
[19:56] <SimonM> I won't be really able to disconnect my internal one...
[19:56] <SimonM> laptop....
[19:56] <Adam__> How make my own OS based on Ubuntu?
[19:56] <chudler> theadmin: LOL @ my previous question, re: lightdm/dbus. That proposal *was* integrated, as a patch: http://dev.blankonlinux.or.id/changeset/rote%2Clightdm-webkit-greeter%2C29
[19:56] <Adam__> please
[19:56] <SimonM> no screwdriver or whatsoever
[19:56] <pyroscope> Adam__:  if you need to ask that, commonly you don't
[19:56] <SimonM> adam: LFS
[19:56] <SimonM> try that
[19:57] <SimonM> linuxfromscratch
[19:57] <SimonM> if you really want to have a linux thing of yourself
[19:57] <christoff522> if you don't take out your internal, it will install the bootloader on the internal and mess everything up
[19:57] <Adam__> me what?
[19:57] <SimonM> I've got place on my internal one
[19:57] <SimonM> so that's no problem I guess
[19:57] <Adam__> How make my own OS based on Ubuntu please? I can do it?
[19:57] <thrillERboy> One more thing I do the same routine installs when I install ubuntu everytime. How can I automate it? any graphical tools?
[19:57] <christoff522> basically, start from scratch
[19:58] <christoff522> simonM
[19:58] <SimonM> and another thing
[19:58] <SimonM> if I unplug my external
[19:58] <wilee-nilee> A manual install will allow grub to be put on the external
[19:58] <christoff522> put windows on your internal, and linux on external
[19:58] <SimonM> the startup is still grey
[19:58] <christoff522> or the other way out
[19:58] <Loshki> Adam__: Just be warned, it's a lot of work, and you'll have to do a *lot* of research to get it right...
[19:58] <christoff522> round
[19:58] <Jordan_U> Adam__: What do you actually want to change?
[19:58] <john__> simon__, You still here
[19:58] <SimonM> yup
[19:58] <Adam__> I can rename my OS to "Adam OS"?
[19:59] <thrillERboy> Adam__: LOL everybody has to start somewhere.
[19:59] <SimonM> john__?
[19:59] <Jordan_U> Adam__: You can take Ubuntu, change the Desktop background, and call it whatever you like and it will be "An OS based on Ubuntu".
[19:59] <john__> Adam__,  Then Don't It's In some proprietary way not actually yours
[19:59] <dhci> avconv command doesn't seem to include libx264 is there a suitable means to output an .mp4 or other format for playback?
[20:00] <christoff522> id suggest going on youtube SimonM
[20:00] <Adam__> actually my
[20:00] <SimonM> any link?
[20:00] <christoff522> and searching "installing ubuntu on external hard drive"
[20:00] <SimonM> ?
[20:00] <Adam__> And i can use official ubuntu repository in my own OS?
[20:00] <SimonM> well the problem is
[20:00] <SimonM> I just want to fix my pc first
[20:00] <christoff522> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVCfeFOxGLQ
[20:00] <christoff522> okay
[20:00] <john__> well I'm not police, bt I'm pretty close
[20:01] <christoff522> whats on your internal hard drive?
[20:01] <Adam__> help please
[20:01] <SimonM> because for some reason on startup nothing happens
[20:01] <Jordan_U> dhci: If it's not built into the default avconv it should be in the mediubuntu version.
[20:01] <Adam__> And i can use official ubuntu repository in my own OS?
[20:01] <SimonM> except 'press esc'
[20:01] <marahin> Adam__, if you wish to create your own OS, learn what the compatiblity is.
[20:01] <Jordan_U> Adam__: Yes.
[20:01] <marahin> And basicly what differs Ubuntu reops from basic debian ones.
[20:01] <dhci> ok i'll check for that i noticed .ogg output works ok though.
[20:01] <john__> Use the ubuntu server
[20:01] <Adam__> that's for sure?
[20:01] <BluesKaj>  Adam__ http://packages.ubuntu.com/quantal/apt-build
[20:01] <christoff522> the only thing you can do really is reinstall on your laptop hd
[20:01] <Jordan_U> Adam__: Yes.
[20:01] <christoff522> that will fix it
[20:02] <christoff522> its definitely a bootloader issue
[20:02] <john__> It is more stable, and accepts only ssh
[20:02] <SimonM> ok
[20:02] <thrillERboy> SimonM: the reason is its search for list of OS you've installed on your internal drive, but the information actually resides in your external drive.
[20:02] <SimonM> I'll try that
[20:02] <SimonM> and come back
[20:02] <christoff522> well said thriller
[20:02] <christoff522> okay
[20:02] <Jordan_U> Adam__: You can do pretty much whatever you like as long as you contribute your changes back openly (as required by the licenses of many components, like the GPL).
[20:03] <Kilroyy> I promise not to ask noob questions... I promise not to ask noob questions... I promi
[20:03] <Adam__> I want rename OS and change DE and remove packages and add other but i want use official ubuntu repository servers (users will install packeges from this repos)? I can do it all of this legal??
[20:04] <Kilroyy> Lol
[20:04] <Jordan_U> Adam__: And if you don't use anything but the default repositories, and don't do any ugly hack changes like installing things outside the package manager, then people could even get support for your "OS" (or respin) here.
[20:04] <SimonM> adam I thunk ubuntu is sort of open source
[20:04] <Alf78fr> BONSOIR
[20:04] <Jordan_U> Adam__: Yes, you are completely free to do that.
[20:04] <Alf78fr> hello
[20:05] <Kilroyy> Hi alf
[20:06] <Adam___> :( why kicked me?
[20:06] <Adam___> bug connections
[20:06] <thrillERboy> Hi, If I want to install ubuntu deskop and setup with my normal softwares and configurations automatically, is there a tool to help with that?
[20:06] <Elspuddy> is there something like speed fan for ubuntu ?
[20:07] <mayhew> thrillERboy: yes, use dpkg --get-selections, save that output to a file, and use apt-get to re-install everything on a new machine
[20:07] <mayhew> it won't save configurations though
[20:08] <thrillERboy> mayhew: Thanks, I wish ubuntu software center does that automatically for me, like chrome extensions :)
[20:09] <thrillERboy> mayhew: I have my configurations as dotfiles in github anyway. Thats not a big deal compared to package installations.
[20:09] <thrillERboy> mayhew: Thanks a lot for the info :)
[20:10] <pyroscope> mayhew:  http://joeyh.name/code/etckeeper/
[20:10] <achandra>  ping
[20:13] <mayhew> pyroscope: could be helpful, but home directory configs are probably more important
[20:13] <john__> Am i just dreaming or is this a Ubuntu channel
[20:13] <john__> If so I suggest wee focus on that
[20:14] <sinclairos> Hi my friends)
[20:14] <pyroscope> mayhew:  i use sbackup for that (well, and actually /etc, too)
[20:14] <john__> We wee ypu
[20:14] <sinclairos> member&
[20:14] <john__> Bacula
[20:14] <mayhew> john__: are you refering to our conversation?
[20:14] <Jordan_U> john__: Please stop the offtopic and nonsense comments.
[20:14] <john__> mayhew, yes
[20:14] <pyroscope> still not progressed very far to put make-the-world type stuff into scripts and that into git
[20:15] <Elspuddy> question, iv just installed 12.10 server and if i cat /proc/cpuinfo it say my cpu is running at 1000MHZ when it should be 3200MHZ whould i still be running at it right speed ?
[20:15] <john__> I mostly script these days
[20:15] <john__> so fire
[20:15] <pyroscope> john__:  *plonk*
[20:16] <betrayd> Elspuddy: maybe a game might max the CPU resources
[20:17] <BluesKaj> Elspuddy, that's the"ondemand" setting saving power when lthe load is low / I ramps up to full when needed
[20:17] <john__> Elspuddy: Is your processor overcloccable. In fect what exacty is your processor?
[20:17] <pyroscope> Elspuddy:  look at "model name"
[20:18] <fbdystang> Hi, I plugged in a microsd card and it is not automatically pulling up. It is brand new. Please advise
[20:18] <Elspuddy> its a amd x2 6400+
[20:18] <john__> But it is pitiful. Get some real muscle brother
[20:18] <Jordan_U> fbdystang: Can you pastebin the output of "dmesg | tail" and "lsusb"?
[20:19] <Rompoy> hi
[20:19] <Jordan_U> john__: Please keep your comments to Ubuntu support related questions and answers to same. This is your last warning. For offtopic discussion try #ubuntu-offtopic.
[20:19] <Elspuddy> anyway thanks all :) going for the "its in power saving mode"
[20:21] <fbdystang> Jordan_U, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5596590/
[20:21] <john__> Just a fucking damn ass day Jordanu
[20:21] <jjpintor> pyroscope, are you there?
[20:22] <h00k> !language | john__
[20:22] <jjpintor> theadmin ?
[20:22] <AaronMT> How do you enable SLI in nvidia-settings? Where is the option?
[20:22] <john__> I can admin
[20:23] <AaronMT> I see both GPU's but I cant tell if they're in use
[20:23] <john__> neither can I would you be more explicit
[20:23] <jjpintor> anyone have a script for wmcrtl?having the commands of wmctrl interval for up to 5 secs?
[20:24] <john__> Describe
[20:24] <john__> jjpintor, fine
[20:24] <john__> jjpintor, 30 no
[20:24] <jjpintor> john__, do you know ?
[20:25] <john__> jjpintor, I know networks if nothing else
[20:25] <john__> jjpintor, Jut tell me the hics
[20:26] <jjpintor> do you know how to code scripts for the wmctrl codes?
[20:26] <fbdystang> Any love? microsd not pulling up, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5596590/
[20:26] <john__> jjpintor, no search the net
[20:26] <betrayd> jjpintor: wmctrl -d, to see if desktops can be wmctrl'd
[20:26] <betrayd> but you'd need the sleep command as timer maybe jjpintor
[20:26] <MaxFrames> hello
[20:27] <MaxFrames> to uninstall wubi from windows xp, do I just uninstall it from add/remove programs? or is some manual trick required?
[20:27] <pyroscope> fbdystang:  df -h
[20:27] <studious> df -h will show you your hard drisk space used, space free
[20:27] <pyroscope> and any automounts
[20:28] <john__> from what I have conjured up from INTERNET DON'T use wmctrl
[20:28] <fbdystang> pyroscope, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5596610/
[20:29] <john__> Why such a obscure window manager?
[20:29] <john__> I have one you might like: STUBS
[20:29] <pyroscope> nautilus /media/16BC942DBC94097F
[20:30] <john__> This is booring. Get some real qustion
[20:30] <jjpintor> yes it can be wmctrl -d
[20:30] <jjpintor> betrayd, what is that timer code?
[20:30] <Pici> john__: thats enough.  If you don't want to support here you can leave, but we do not treat our users like that.
[20:31] <john__> not delinquients pretending to know windows systems
[20:31] <Pici> !guidelines > john__
[20:31] <veyoon> Hi all, is there a problem with empathy connecting my google account? it takes ages, needs authorization quite often.
[20:31] <fbdystang> pyroscope, thats not it, that shows a 49G, which my microsd is only 8GB
[20:31] <jjpintor> JUST IGNORE IT, by IT i mean john__
[20:31] <nopf> hey, so i have an encrypted system which will not boot correctly. i S)kipped some mounts. still / gets mounted, just 'ro' i think.
[20:32] <betrayd> sleep n  (seconds) jjpintor
[20:32] <Jobbe> what GUI do you use for desktop ?
[20:32] <betrayd>  jjpintor man sleep or man wmctrl will bring the manual
[20:32] <jjpintor> can you pm me the whole syntax betrayd ?
[20:32] <nopf> i need to reinstall 'util-linux' (needed a newer version for some special task, now this can't MOUNT_SOME_VERSION_NUMBER ... etc), but i cannot -remount rw for the same reason...
[20:32] <pyroscope> fbdystang:  check if you have a /dev/sdb entry
[20:33] <betrayd> jjpintor: try it sleep 5
[20:33] <jjpintor> betrayd, i tried the wmctrl -s "DesktopNumber" but i want to call that command every 4 secs
[20:33] <pyroscope> possibly an unsupported filesys on that sd, or unformatted
[20:33] <nopf> can i easily access from a live cd the encrypted root and apt-get install things there?
[20:33] <jjpintor> betrayd, 5 secs***
[20:33] <john__> I have been  impertinent.  Indeed irritating. I am a asshole. And that is how it is. Sorry wil have towait for another day
[20:33] <fbdystang> pyroscope, how? It is brand new so probably unformatted
[20:34] <pyroscope> mine came formatted (fat32 probably)
[20:34] <nopf> (the error from #mount -o remount,rw / is: mount: /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libmount.so.1: version `MOUNT_2.21' not found (required by mount))
[20:35]  * pyroscope points to google, mkfs.vfat probably
[20:36] <nopf> hm, i could also copy over some parts (/sbin, /lib) from another machine with a similar version of ubuntu
[20:36] <nopf> so the question is: can i somehow remount this 'rw' or can i easily get at the FS from a live cd?
[20:37] <jjpintor>  betrayd ?
[20:37] <betrayd> jjpintor search for bash scipt while
[20:37] <fbdystang> pyroscope, so what do I do?
[20:38] <betrayd> you will get example code to repeat the Commands
[20:38] <betrayd> jjpintor: ^
[20:38] <Guest52979> hello folks. I'm running 12.04 server and trying to apt-get update but I'm getting this error:
[20:38] <Guest52979>  GPG error: http://ie.archive.ubuntu.com quantal Release: The following signatures were invalid: NODATA 1 NODATA 2
[20:39] <jjpintor> betrayd, do while bash scripts?
[20:39] <Guest52979> I tried: commenting out all but necessaryt in sources.list, clearing /var/lib/apt/lists/, apt-get clean, ;aptitude -o Acquire::http::No-Cache=True -o Acquire::BrokenProxy=true update
[20:39] <Guest52979> but still nothing. Any ideas?
[20:39] <betrayd> jjpintor: google yes  but sleep n  followed by thw wmctrl are the only commands inside
[20:39] <jjpintor> betrayd, ok thanks.
[20:39] <pyroscope> jjpintor:  http://linuxcommand.org/writing_shell_scripts.php
[20:40] <betrayd> jjpintor: yw
[20:40] <genii-around> Guest52979: Probably want to try a different mirror
[20:40] <flashingpumpkin> guys, judging by this error - I might have to re-install the system, right?
[20:40] <flashingpumpkin> http://dpaste.org/Tifmq/
[20:40] <Guest52979> genii-around, tried US as well, same :/
[20:40] <Guest52979> and UK
[20:40] <flashingpumpkin> (essentially: perl is fucked, without perl dpkg won't work, without dpkg apt won't (re-)install perl)
[20:41] <Guest52979> !paste
[20:41] <Guest52979> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5596635/
[20:42] <SexyTattoos96> need help with my website
[20:42] <pyroscope> flashingpumpkin:  tried rm -rf /* or something?
[20:43] <h00k> flashingpumpkin: please keep the language appropriate
[20:43] <h00k> !danger
[20:43] <flashingpumpkin> h00k, sorry
[20:43] <koala_> hi
[20:44] <Guest71940> hi
[20:44] <koala_> noob speaking, i want to sync my android phone withe my ubuntu 12.04, how should I procede?
[20:44] <SimonM> I need some help with gparted....
[20:44] <learning> anyone know how to make screen tearing stop with aticonfig ?
[20:45] <darkrebas> my pc isnt detecting my soundcard.
[20:45] <flashingpumpkin> oh well. *pulls out usb key for re-install*. Clean system can't hurt :)
[20:46] <a_> has anyone got ubuntu to recognize and integrated webcam?
[20:47] <SimonM> Can someone here help me with gparted?
[20:48] <betrayd> !anyone | SimonM
[20:48] <SimonM> ?
[20:48] <a_> is it impossible to get ubuntu to recognize an integrated webcam?
[20:48] <a_> i researched but got nowhere
[20:49] <SimonM> I really need someone to help me with gparted.
[20:49] <k1l> !details | SimonM
[20:49] <a_> i tried installing an app but it didnt show up in the list
[20:49] <SimonM> latest ubuntu
[20:50] <oday> Hi guys, i can't remember how i binded my ~ key to open a terminal, how can i unbind it? maybe it's even a application i installed, can't remember :/
[20:50] <a_> ya
[20:50] <SimonM> and my partitions are a mess
[20:50] <SimonM> and I'm trying to merge certain partitions
[20:51] <darkrebas> im having issues with my sound, im on ubntu 10.04, theres no sound, it shows as muted, and i cant unmute. im presuming a driver problem
[20:51] <darkrebas> how can i check?
[20:52] <Guest52979> darkrebas, update to ubuntu 12.10
[20:52] <darkrebas> bah
[20:52] <SimonM> kll Is it enough informtion?
[20:52] <oday> Hi guys, i can't remember how i binded my ~ key to open a terminal, how can i unbind it? maybe it's even a application i installed, can't remember :/
[20:52] <troulouliou_dev> hi i m testing ubuntu with secureboot ; but 1 i can not boot with sb enabled ; 2 the sb kernel lead to graphical glitches
[20:52] <troulouliou_dev> is there anybody using secureboot ?
[20:53] <Guest52979> troulouliou_dev, what if you boot with nomodeset
[20:53] <darkrebas> Guest52979, will it keep the interfae from 10.04 if i ws tp upgrade?
[20:53] <troulouliou_dev> Guest52979, at least a lead :) will try
[20:54] <Guest52979> darkrebas, the GUI? it'll probably be unity
[20:54] <Guest52979> or just switch to xfce
[20:54] <SimonM> How to move partitions in gparted, only seems to be able to resize.
[20:54] <darkrebas> im used to this GUI. and i hate unity with a venegence
[20:54] <darkrebas> hence i installed 10.04 instead
[20:55] <Guest52979> eh
[20:55] <Guest52979> you don't liek the gui of ubuntu 12.04
[20:55] <Guest52979> and instead of using another gui, you opted for a 3 year old OS?
[20:55] <Guest52979> does not make sense to me
[20:55] <Guest52979> SimonM, drag and drop.
[20:56] <SimonM> Doesn't work...
[20:56] <Guest52979> and it takes a loooooooooooooooooooooooong time.
[20:56] <Guest52979> yes it does, I've done it myself.
[20:56] <SimonM> Otherwise I would have already found it, wouldn't I. :)
[20:56] <Guest52979> obviously your partition arragenements do not allow for it.
[20:56] <Guest52979> imgur.com < uploda screenshots of each step, description etc.
[20:56] <SimonM> And how do you fix that?
[20:58] <SimonM> Anyway
[20:58] <SimonM> I'll be right back
[20:58] <nopf> (ok, fyi, solved my problem using LD_LIBRARY_PATH)
[21:04] <darkrebas> im having issues with my sound, im on ubntu 10.04, theres no sound, it shows as muted, and i cant unmute. im presuming a driver problem. any ideas what i can do to sort it?
[21:05] <SimonM> Ok I need help with gparted
[21:06] <SimonM> In some sort of way I put a primary partition to a logical inside an extended. How can I revert that?
[21:06] <helpmeplease> Hi everybody I am lost, after having installed ubuntu 12.10 desktop empty, what to do?
[21:07] <Dr_willis> helpmeplease,  you mean you get the Login screen. you login, but get no icons or panels? alt-ctrl-t does open a terminal however?
[21:07] <Guest52979> SimonM, what do you mean?
[21:07] <helpmeplease> yes dr-willis only terminal I can open
[21:07] <SimonM> Well
[21:07] <Guest52979> do you have a "primary" inside an extended?
[21:07] <SimonM> first it was primary
[21:07] <ivpusic> test
[21:08] <Guest52979> imgur.com screenshots, and fdisk -l plz.
[21:08] <SimonM> now it's a logical inside an extended partition
[21:08] <SimonM> ok
[21:08] <Dr_willis> helpmeplease,  unity/compiz is failing to fully load - i see this happen a lot for many differnt people/chipsets/videocards - but have never really seen a common cause.
[21:08] <SimonM> fdisk -l gives nothing for some reason
[21:08] <SimonM> I'll use screenshots
[21:09] <Guest52979> eh
[21:09] <Guest52979> sudo fdisk -l /dev/your-disk
[21:09] <Guest52979> Dr_willis, "failing" ?
[21:09] <helpmeplease> right Dr_willis then what do u suggest me to do? I was using ubuntu 13.04 but I couldn't find an hdmi output and I came back this version, the 1080p video weren't fluid so I add nvidia drivers update and now an empty desktop :(
[21:10] <Dr_willis> The desktop fails to load totally.. correct.  Ive not seen any good reasons or explinations. other then its 'some how 3d video driver related'
[21:11] <Guest52979> there are great explanations
[21:11] <Guest52979> they are in the log files
[21:12] <SimonM> http://imgur.com/arWJoTc,kfxkFxD , http://imgur.com/arWJoTc,kfxkFxD#1
[21:12] <helpmeplease> should I do this? 1. install xrdp sudo apt-get install xrdp  2. install fallback sudo apt-get install gnome-session-fallback  3. logout and login again by gnome theme. You can choose theme before log in..  4. open terminal by ctrl alt t , then input echo "gnome-session --session=gnome" > ~/.xsession  5. sudo gedit /etec/xrdp/startwm.sh . /etc/X11/Xsession to . /home/<user name>/.xsession  6. sudo /etc/init.d/xrdp restart
[21:13] <SimonM> http://imgur.com/arWJoTc,kfxkFxD , http://imgur.com/arWJoTc,kfxkFxD#1 I'm trying to move 'HP-TOOLS' into a primary partition and delete the extended one
[21:13] <Ben64> SimonM: you don't even have ubuntu on it :o
[21:14] <SimonM> yes
[21:14] <SimonM> That's correct
[21:14] <SimonM> installing went wrong
[21:14] <Dr_willis> helpmeplease,  what does xrdp have to do with this? Last time i had the issue. i noticed that all the other window mangers worked fine. Kubuntu, lubuntu and so forth. it was just Unity/compiz that had the issue.  I belive gnome-shell even worked fine.
[21:14] <SimonM> and I'm trying to fix that
[21:14] <Guest52979> igh
[21:14] <Guest52979> what a clusterf
[21:14] <Ben64> SimonM: you're not going to fix it that way
[21:14] <SimonM> I'm trying to get my pc back like before installing
[21:14] <Guest52979> I see 3 primary partitoins, 1 extended, with 1 logical in it (sda5)
[21:14] <helpmeplease> I don't know I just found this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xrdp/+bug/1069272
[21:15] <SimonM> indeed guest52979
[21:15] <Guest52979> so, the 3 first ones are primary.
[21:15] <Ben64> SimonM: what is your end goal?
[21:15] <Guest52979> then space. then logical.
[21:15] <Guest52979> so whwat is the problem
[21:15] <SimonM> on startup
[21:15] <SimonM> nothing happens
[21:15] <SimonM> just grey screen
[21:15] <Guest52979> uhm
[21:16] <Guest52979> I guess you run windows
[21:16] <SimonM> and HP-TOOLS
[21:16] <Guest52979> so.. try the rescue CD or whatever it is called?
[21:16] <Guest52979> fix startup repair.
[21:16] <SimonM> is an lba
[21:16] <SimonM> which is a booting stuff
[21:16] <SimonM> is borken
[21:16] <SimonM> broken
[21:16] <Ben64> this is not a windows help channel, we can't help you with that
[21:16] <helpmeplease> so u suggest me only to do this? sudo apt-get install compiz compizconfig-settings-manager compiz-fusion-plugins-extra compiz-fusion-plugins-main compiz-plugins
[21:16] <SimonM> and before HP-TOOLS was on a primary partition
[21:16] <SimonM> ben64 I've no windows at all anoymore...
[21:16] <Ben64> you've no linux on there
[21:17] <SimonM> and it happened when installing ubuntu
[21:17] <SimonM> I use a live mode usb
[21:17] <dripdrip> I just opened a laptop that I haven't used in 3 years, and tried to watch a show.  Sound is not working, but every test I know how to run shows that it is.  Please advise.
[21:17] <Ben64> you have 10GB free space in there, that's enough for linux, sort of
[21:17] <SimonM> and these community is much better than windows...
[21:18] <SimonM> I think problem is that HP-TOOLS is not primary anymore
[21:18] <Ben64> no
[21:18] <helpmeplease> I tried but it says E: Unable to locate package compiz-fusion-plugins-extra E: Unable to locate package compiz-fusion-plugins-main
[21:18] <SimonM> and I think windows expects its boot to be primary
[21:18] <Ben64> hp-tools has nothing at all to do with linux
[21:18] <Ben64> you're making no sense
[21:18] <SimonM> :c
[21:18] <SimonM> I'm just asking one thing....
[21:18] <Ben64> not really
[21:18] <darkrebas> hp-tools is the hard drive label.
[21:19] <SimonM> How could I move the HP-TOOLS section into a primary
[21:19] <Dr_willis> !ccsm | helpmeplease
[21:19] <darkrebas> (my best guess)
[21:19] <SimonM> with gparted
[21:19] <Ben64> SimonM: thats not going to make ubuntu work
[21:19] <SimonM> :c
[21:19] <SimonM> I know
[21:19] <Ben64> then... why are you here
[21:19] <SimonM> I'm just trying to get my pc working....
[21:19] <Dr_willis> helpmeplease,  try a sudo apt-get update, and sudo apt-get upgrade. then try installing the psckages
[21:19] <Ben64> SimonM: then install ubuntu?
[21:19] <SimonM> I'm on a usb ubuntu thing
[21:19] <SimonM> can't
[21:19] <SimonM> that's the problem....
[21:19] <Ben64> yes you can
[21:19] <SimonM> when I installed it
[21:19] <SimonM> and reinstalled
[21:19] <Ben64> there is 10GB space
[21:19] <FloodBot1> SimonM: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:20] <SimonM> the same problem occured
[21:20] <SimonM> But Ben64, if I want to move HP-TOOLS to a primary with gparted, how would I do that?
[21:20] <helpmeplease> sudo apt-get install simple-ccsm Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done E: Unable to locate package simple-ccsm
[21:20] <SimonM> That's the only thing I need to know...
[21:21] <Ben64> hp-tools has ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~NOTHING~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ to do with booting ubuntu, and if you make it primary, you cannot make any more partitions, and it won't fix anything anyway
[21:21] <SimonM> ok then
[21:21] <SimonM> then just don't help me...
[21:21] <Ben64> i'm trying, you're not listening
[21:21] <dripdrip> I just opened a laptop that I haven't used in 3 years, and tried to watch a show.  Sound is not working, but every test I know how to run shows that it is.  Please advise.
[21:21] <dripdrip> damnit
[21:21] <dripdrip> can someone help me run a terminal test to determine what the audio issue is
[21:21] <Ben64> dripdrip: what version of ubuntu
[21:22] <kanzie> Im trying to get php5-fpm working through socket on my 12.10 however the .sock-file is not in /var/run do I have to create this manually or what?
[21:23] <dripdrip> Ben64: 11.10
[21:23] <helpmeplease> ok I have done sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[21:23] <shahanbangladesh> I just instaled ubuntu 12.04.2 But my display  brightness is at lowest level.Icannt make it higher.Its on HP Mini 100
[21:24] <shahanbangladesh> any idea to make this problem solved?
[21:24] <SimonM> Ben64 could copying HP-TOOLS to an external hard drive and then copying into a primary work?
[21:24] <Ben64> SimonM: it won't fix anything
[21:24] <SimonM> it will fix my windows
[21:24] <Ben64> no it won't
[21:24] <SimonM> very helpful...
[21:25] <Ben64> if you look carefully, it is helpful
[21:25] <Ben64> trying to save you from wasting a bunch of time
[21:25] <SimonM> ok what do you advice?
[21:25] <Ben64> if you want to fix windows, go to ##windows
[21:25] <SimonM> they are rubbish....
[21:26] <SimonM> One thing to mention
[21:26] <SimonM> I don't have a windows cd
[21:26] <SimonM> to only thing I'm able to do is boot my pc with an ubuntu usb
[21:26] <SimonM> and use livemode
[21:27] <Dr_willis> there are legal ways to get a windows7 rescue/repair cds for free off the internet.  - saw some info/links on   lifehacker we site a month or 2 ago.
[21:27] <SimonM> Can't really wait for that....
[21:27] <Ben64> then install ubuntu
[21:27] <dripdrip> I ran packmd, and list-sinks and it shows my volume is mute... but on the sound icon in the top right corner of my screen, sound shows not muted.  Ideas?
[21:27] <SimonM> did twice
[21:27] <SimonM> reinstalled
[21:27] <SimonM> gave the same problem
[21:27] <Ben64> your drive has no ubuntus on it, so...
[21:27] <k1l> SimonM: so to tell the truth. you broke your windows while playing with the partitions and now want to solve that with the ubuntu live system
[21:28] <shahanbangladesh> any solution to my problem?
[21:28] <SimonM> sort of :)
[21:28] <SimonM> well
[21:28] <SimonM> not really playing with partitions
[21:28] <k1l> SimonM: so instead of trying to fool everyone in here you could tell the truth
[21:28] <SimonM> the ubuntu install did it
[21:28] <shahanbangladesh> I cannt increase the brightness of my display.its 12.04 on HP mini 100
[21:28] <SimonM> I did not really fool anyone?
[21:29] <Ben64> well you're coming to #ubuntu for windows support, so thats a bit wonky
[21:29] <SimonM> i'm sorry
[21:29] <k1l> SimonM: the ubuntu install didnt cause that.
[21:29] <SimonM> but ubuntu is just more helpful
[21:29] <SimonM> than windows
[21:29] <Ben64> there is 10GB of free space, and ubuntu will gladly install there and boot fine
[21:29] <SimonM> ...
[21:29] <Ben64> if you want to get a system up and running
[21:29] <k1l> SimonM: so again: you are lying. stop that in here. stop waisting the time of volunteers
[21:29] <Ben64> otherwise there isn't really anything you can do it looks like
[21:30] <SimonM> srry
[21:30] <SimonM> Still any suggestions what I could do?
[21:31] <wilee-nilee> SimonM, YOU can download a windows recovery for 20$
[21:31] <SimonM> ok
[21:32] <Dr_willis> ive seen rescue/repair (but not reinstal) cds for free
[21:33] <wilee-nilee> SimonM, http://neosmart.net/blog/2009/windows-7-system-repair-discs/
[21:33] <wilee-nilee> Free unless MS sees them, if not MS.
[21:33] <SimonM> ty
[21:33] <k1l> the windows support would suit better into the ##windows channel
[21:33] <SimonM> same network?
[21:33] <k1l> yes
[21:34] <SimonM> ok
[21:34] <wilee-nilee> SimonM, /j ##windows  you have to be registerd though
[21:35] <texla> 12.04...The setting button in update manager are greyed out...I want to change the time when it notifiy of new updates
[21:35] <Bl00Dclaw> Hello @ al
[21:37] <wilee-nilee> texla, Try software sources, this is the account you created on install right?
[21:38] <texla> wilee-nilee, Ok will try
[21:48] <SourceSlayer> How do I install an application on Ubuntu for a a single user only from source?
[21:49] <john__> hi al
[21:49] <SourceSlayer> Hi
[21:50] <john__> i Welcome a  abuse like ladyfinger contraing its trail in despicable horror
[21:50] <gnuskool> kick
[21:51] <john__> Hi I a actually a member.
[21:52] <matmbl> ??hello
[21:53] <Dr_willis> SourceSlayer,  dowload the source. let the user compile it. and run it from his home directory
[21:53] <Dr_willis> yes matmbl ?
[21:53] <matmbl> can anyway help with pam / mysql / smtp authentication I have a odd situation!
[21:54] <john__> tall call
[21:54] <Dr_willis> john__,  do you have an actual ubuntu support question?
[21:54] <SourceSlayer> Thanks, Dr_willis. I actually never thought of that. :/
[21:54] <john__> can we take them one at a time
[21:55] <john__> Dr_willis, shut up and listen
[21:55] <Loshki> SourceSlayer: or install it as usual, then find the executable and change its permissions so it's read/execute only by that user....
[21:55] <diverdude> if only i knew why ubuntu was so popular and people say linux is so insanely stable....In average ubuntu seems to crash 1-2 times per day, it over heats my processor and its insanely slow in the gui and movie playback is lagging...what is it again that is so nice about this system?
[21:56] <Ben64> john__: keep the attitude in check, nobody can help you if you don't ask a question
[21:56] <Dr_willis> diverdude,  i could say the same thing about windows.... please rant elsewhere.
[21:56] <Myrtti> diverdude: for many people it is insanely stable. Your question is rhetoric and not really a support question that we can help you with. If you want someone to try to help you with the actual issue, supply us with more information.
[21:56] <john__> Ben64, Unless I answer hem
[21:56] <xx> how do i update my flash
[21:56] <xx> or java
[21:56] <Dr_willis> !java | xx
[21:57] <Ben64> john__: you haven't answered anything, you so far have just spammed random stuff
[21:57] <xx> so i can play onlinegames?
[21:57] <john__> Ben64, More my call. Been using unix since 1987
[21:57] <k1l> john__: you were already kicked today. so stick to the guidelines!
[21:57] <diverdude> Dr_willis, really...ubuntu is way more laggy than windows unfortunately :(
[21:57] <userchepe> OLAAA
[21:57] <userchepe> ALGUIEN ME PUEDE AYUDAR
[21:57] <john__> Ben64, Lets change that
[21:57] <k1l> !guidelines > john__
[21:57] <SourceSlayer> Loshki: The main purpose of it is to allow the user to install without root perms, is there any way to do this and allow multiple users?
[21:57] <Gamblerz> rest
[21:57] <Loshki> !es | userchepe
[21:57] <Dr_willis> diverdude,  i see just the opposite in most cases. but often its due to the video card makers (ati/nvidia) not supporing the os as much as they do others..
[21:58] <john__> ubuntu.se
[21:58] <john__> for spanish
[21:58] <diverdude> Dr_willis, i wish it was not....i hate admitting windows just performs better :(
[21:58] <Dr_willis> SourceSlayer,  a single user dosent needs to 'install' an app system wide just for them to use. they can run from their home directory
[21:58] <Ben64> john__: .se is sweden. maybe just be quiet if you don't know what you're talking about?
[21:58] <Dr_willis> diverdude,  depends on the benchmarks and tasks. and its OT.  have a nice day
[21:59] <SourceSlayer> Alright, thanks guys.
[22:00] <peterrr> !es
[22:01] <Loshki> SourceSlayer: what apps do you want to allow users to install without root?
[22:02] <john__> for spanish luisbg
[22:02] <SourceSlayer> Loshki: Let's say google earth?
[22:02] <matmbl> can someone tell me where all the configuration files exist that could affect a pam/mysql/saslauthd/postfix configuration (for smtp authentication against mysql). I've got a broken config and can't find the issue!?!
[22:02] <matmbl> thx
[22:02] <Dr_willis> SourceSlayer,  that dosent need 'source' you can extract the tar.gz into the users home and run it from there i recall..
[22:02] <john__> matmbl: one at a time..
[22:03] <matmbl> soz, new here !
[22:03] <k1l> john__: stop that. be helpfull if you want to help in here
[22:04] <k1l> matmbl: no problem. just see if someone knows the answer
[22:04] <SourceSlayer> Dr_willis: Then Blender would bea better example I guess.
[22:04] <SolarisBoy> matmbl: in most of those paths prefix with /etc/ for example /etc/pam.d is the general location of config files for pam, there is /etc/my.conf - i believe /etc/mail/ will be post fix configurations - and the saslauthd stuff i can't confirm - but safe to take a look under /etc/ for a similar pattern
[22:05] <SolarisBoy> matmbl: you may want to look at the logs under /var/log to get a better idea of what facility is throwing the error -
[22:05] <matmbl> that's my problem, I've even built a new vpc of 12.04 LTS and that's working perfectly with (as far as I can tell) identical setup..
[22:05] <Myrtti> john__: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/SupportersGuide
[22:06] <SolarisBoy> you need to look at the logs to get a better idea of where the error is coming from.
[22:06] <Loshki> matmbl: can you diff -r the working /etc against the broken one to see where they differ?
[22:06] <matmbl> question, if I do a "testsaslauthd -u root -p passwd -s login" should that be the same as logging into the box (from an password check perspective)
[22:06] <Dr_willis> SourceSlayer,  you can dowload the source. and compile most things, and run them from the users home directory for a single user.
[22:06] <SolarisBoy> if it's pam auth errors - you would most likely find them in /var/log/auth.log
[22:07] <Dr_willis> SourceSlayer,  the admin may need to install all the needed 'dev' packages to make the compile possible however.
[22:07] <SolarisBoy> haven't used that binary before can't confirm - you can tail your logs and see if it did - or read the man page
[22:07] <matmbl> Loshki: did that but I can only assume another (unknown) config file is different... I've been trying to 'finish' the config for someone else and it's driving me nuts!
[22:07] <SolarisBoy> matmbl: did you check the logs for any of these applications yet?
[22:07] <SolarisBoy> matmbl: /var/log/auth.log?
[22:08] <Loshki> SourceSlayer: it's an odd way to work. Why not just install the app and let everyone use it?
[22:08] <Loshki> matmbl: then I agree with SolarisBoy. Time to compare the logs and see if you can home in on the section that's different...
[22:08] <SourceSlayer> Loshki: Because in some cases the user will not have privileges.
[22:09] <matmbl> auth.log: saslauthd[6857]: DEBUG: auth_pam: pam_authenticate failed: User not known to the underlying authentication module
[22:09] <matmbl> I know the password is the same (imap-courier auth works file to the same)
[22:09] <matmbl> I also know the db is being access (query logging in mysql)
[22:09] <SolarisBoy> matmbl: ok - is that a system user?
[22:09] <matmbl> imap auth works *fine*
[22:10] <Loshki> SourceSlayer: I'm confused. Are you talking about privileges to run the app, or to install it?
[22:10] <matmbl> SolarisBoy: no, I'm authenticating against mailbox table in mysql (virtual user)
[22:10] <SourceSlayer> Loshki: Install
[22:10] <SolarisBoy> matmbl: thats what i thought
[22:11] <SolarisBoy> matmbl: check that whatever pam module that should be handling that action is enabled and configured properly
[22:11] <SolarisBoy> matmbl:  /etc/pam.d/smtp ? present on your system?
[22:12] <matmbl> as far as I can tell it is /etc/pam.d/smtp is configured correctly,
[22:12] <Loshki> matmbl: do you know what username is being used?
[22:12] <SolarisBoy> matmbl: and be sure that you have all the proper pam additional software instaleld (if needed)
[22:12] <matmbl> auth required pam_mysql.so user=mail passwd=XXX host=127.0.0.1 db=maildb table=mailbox usercolumn=username passwdcolumn=password crypt=1 md5=1
[22:13] <matmbl> same as my other vpc
[22:13] <SolarisBoy> matmbl: how did you duplicate this configuration?
[22:14] <Loshki> SourceSlayer: but usually an admin with root privileges installs apps, then users run them. How come your model seems different?
[22:14] <matmbl> I didn't I reinstalled from base ubuntu on another vpc. then installed following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixCompleteVirtualMailSystemHowto
[22:15] <SolarisBoy> matmbl: so you have re-installed all those packages?
[22:15] <Loshki> matmbl: So it does a mysql lookup for the authentication? Do the *contents* of the mysql database differ between the working and non-working versions?
[22:15] <matmbl> the problem installation is something I'm trying to complete for someone else (he was having problems). I've got it almost complete except for this darn smtp authentication
[22:15] <theqkash> Hello, upgrading 11.10 to 12.04 and http://pastebin.com/xgmbwp3v - anybody can help? any websites won't
[22:15] <SolarisBoy> Loshki: may have hit it on the head also - if the tables are blank - could be related
[22:15] <SolarisBoy> Loshki: good one -
[22:15] <theqkash> Hello, upgrading 11.10 to 12.04 and http://pastebin.com/xgmbwp3v - anybody can help? any websites won't
[22:16] <matmbl> BRB
[22:16] <Loshki> SolarisBoy: thanks
[22:16] <SolarisBoy> matmbl: please also confirm you did this one: 'sudo apt-get install courier-pop-ssl courier-imap-ssl courier-ssl courier-pop courier-imap courier-base' - i see someone else getting those errors froma missing package and similar routing (reinstalling this setup on a VPC) so check that as well
[22:17] <SolarisBoy> - brb
[22:17] <theqkash> anyone ? please
[22:17] <SourceSlayer> Loshki: I am going to be running a remote server that users can log into, users may log in using their own personal machine or a 'guest' machine I set up. When using the guest machine they wont have admin rights so they must install the application locally to use it.
[22:17] <Jordan_U> theqkash: How did you try to upgrade?
[22:17] <theqkash> Jordan_U: do-release-upgrade from console
[22:17] <wilee-nilee> theqkash, Can you post all the text, and make sure you have all 3rd party repos off for a distro upgrade.
[22:17] <theqkash> however it is coming from 11.04
[22:18] <matmbl> SolarisBoy: yep, the strange thing imap authentication is working perfectly, it's SMTP which is failing (although both are authenticating against the same user in the mailbox table!!!
[22:18] <mywatsjal> I started startx server on my user account and get some screen now after reboot i annot login, i get some info and cannot login withinm y session
[22:18] <theqkash> wilee-nilee: it is when I done apt-get upgrade, because the release upgrade scren have disappeared
[22:18] <theqkash> there is no third-party repos
[22:18] <mywatsjal> im on other user session which works fine, i use cinnamon gui at my other user what to do?
[22:18] <Jordan_U> theqkash: Is this a normal installation or is it a hosted VPS or chroot of some sort?
[22:18] <emr> Hello, most of time application switch (alt+tab) crashing my gnome, is there any hint for that
[22:18] <theqkash> Jordan_U: it is hosted VPS
[22:19] <matmbl> SolarisBoy: those packages are install and upto date!
[22:19] <matmbl> btw
[22:19] <Loshki> SourceSlayer: I'm still missing something. Install google earth on the guest machine and let them run it...
[22:20] <mywatsjal> Im logged in via terminal now as user so how to stop startx please help
[22:20] <Jordan_U> theqkash: Then it's probably in a chroot or other virtual container, and upstart has problems with those (or at least did at one time). On top of that, you can't be sure that the kernel was actually upgraded with everything else. Does your VPS provide upgrading instructions?
[22:20] <SourceSlayer> Loshki: Earth was just an example, they can install different things..
[22:21] <theqkash> Jordan_U: there is no instruction or nothing
[22:22] <Jordan_U> theqkash: Call up the tech support and ask them.
[22:22] <Loshki> SourceSlayer: I understand, but the principle is the same. In general, you install whatever you think they may need on the guest machine. It's probably too much of a security risk to give them permission to install/uninstall on their own...
[22:22] <theqkash> any chance to fix it without contacting them?
[22:25] <ur0pl> hi
[22:25] <ur0pl> is it easy to put ubuntu on a chrome book?
[22:26] <Dr_willis> ur0pl,  ive seen some guides that basically it installs like any other pc.. depends on the chromebook i imagine
[22:27] <iamwhatsjalsds> help me with xorg
[22:27] <iamwhatsjalsds> I run startx and I see no screen now
[22:27] <iamwhatsjalsds> but only for that specific user where I startedx
[22:27] <iamwhatsjalsds> How can I reverse that action?
[22:27] <wilee-nilee> ur0pl, Judge for yourself, http://liliputing.com/2013/02/how-to-run-ubuntu-android-other-operating-systems-on-the-chromebook-pixel.html
[22:28] <Dr_willis> iamwhatsjalsds,  you made a .xsession or .xinitrc for that user?
[22:28] <iamwhatsjalsds> dont know
[22:28] <iamwhatsjalsds> I just typed sudo startx
[22:28] <Dr_willis> then look....
[22:28] <Dr_willis> sudo?
[22:28] <iamwhatsjalsds> and confirmed
[22:28] <Dr_willis> why did you use sudo?
[22:28] <mx8manger> hello buddies
[22:28] <iamwhatsjalsds> because operation was not permited for single startx
[22:28] <zeus> ubuntuers, some of my function+F key system shortcuts dont' work anymore (i.e. volume up/down, WiFi on/off)
[22:28] <k1l> iamwhatsjalsds: dont use startx. start the lightdm
[22:28] <zeus> What package or system check can I reinstall/force to fix my problems
[22:29] <iamwhatsjalsds> ok how to run it for that user
[22:29] <Dr_willis> iamwhatsjalsds,  you most likely made a .Xauthority file own by root in that users home.. and other config files as well.   look at all the files in the users home.
[22:29] <iamwhatsjalsds> I see process startx but whenever I kill startx it comes a new one automatically
[22:29] <mx8manger> omg 1709 users that is high
[22:29] <iamwhatsjalsds> Im in /home/mainuser
[22:29] <iamwhatsjalsds> where to exactly look
[22:29] <Dr_willis> mx8manger,  actually its a slow day
[22:30] <iamwhatsjalsds> k find it
[22:30] <iamwhatsjalsds> now what?
[22:30] <mx8manger> well x-chat connected here automaticaly
[22:30] <iamwhatsjalsds> cat .Xauthority
[22:30] <iamwhatsjalsds> cat: .Xauthority: Permission denied
[22:30] <Dr_willis> its owned by root i am guessing.. use sudo to remove it.
[22:30] <mx8manger> is there any way to remap keys in the kernel or something lol
[22:30] <mx8manger> i use xmodmap
[22:30] <iamwhatsjalsds> but I have .Xauthority on this usee
[22:30] <iamwhatsjalsds> user, and I see everything fine with my cinnamon gui
[22:31] <mx8manger> but it only remaps x server key inputs
[22:31] <Dr_willis> iamwhatsjalsds,  and who OWNS the file? if you did a sudo startx it made a .Xauthorigy owned by root not the user..
[22:31] <k1l> iamwhatsjalsds: cinnamon? is it a mint linux?
[22:31] <mx8manger> whenever i am using vbox  my remaped keys donst work
[22:31] <mx8manger> help plz
[22:31] <iamwhatsjalsds> k1l, no, ubuntu
[22:32] <iamwhatsjalsds> Dr_willis, root owns the file, but file is placed at /home/mainuser/.Xa and /home/currentuser/.Xa.
[22:32] <iamwhatsjalsds> so if I remove it from mainuser are you sure it will work?
[22:32] <mx8manger> come on some one say something
[22:32] <Dr_willis> iamwhatsjalsds,  and they should not be owned by root. but by the user
[22:32] <mx8manger> btw
[22:32] <iamwhatsjalsds> Because Im on currentuser and cinnamon works fine
[22:32] <iamwhatsjalsds> ah so I can chown it?
[22:32] <mx8manger> guys i corrupted my windows boot files
[22:32] <Ben64> try ##windows ?
[22:33] <wutang> Dudes and duettes
[22:33] <iamwhatsjalsds> Dr_willis, should I chown it with mainuser right>?
[22:33] <mx8manger> is there a way to force grub to boot from local drive iso's so i can fix my windows installtion
[22:33] <iamwhatsjalsds> what will happen if I remove it?
[22:33] <Dr_willis> iamwhatsjalsds,  or remove it and let the user relog in and remake the files
[22:33] <wutang> is there a good tutorial out the for using truecrypt and xubuntu, both encrypted medium marrying up harmoniouosly
[22:33] <Dr_willis> or rename it..
[22:33] <iamwhatsjalsds> ok
[22:33] <Dr_willis> bbl
[22:34] <iamwhatsjalsds> lol
[22:34] <iamwhatsjalsds> it worked
[22:35] <k1l> iamwhatsjalsds: for the future: dont use startx
[22:35] <iamwhatsjalsds> thanks
[22:35] <iamwhatsjalsds> I just wanted to try out xorg
[22:35] <Ben64> you already have xorg
[22:35] <iamwhatsjalsds> however startx
[22:35] <iamwhatsjalsds> X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting.
[22:35] <k1l> iamwhatsjalsds: use the lightdm to start the xserver
[22:35] <k1l> iamwhatsjalsds: what did i just say? dont use startx
[22:36] <k1l> *sigh*
[22:36] <digitalreality> info digitalreality
[22:36] <iamwhatsjalsds> what is lightdm
[22:36] <k1l> !lightdm | iamwhatsjalsds
[22:36] <k1l> iamwhatsjalsds: well, it starts the xserver for you
[22:36] <iamwhatsjalsds> k display manager
[22:36] <k1l> its the login screen
[22:36] <iamwhatsjalsds> ok thanks for help
[22:36] <iamwhoiam> !lightdm
[22:37] <iamwhatsjalsds> !lightdm
[22:37] <wilee-nilee> mx8manger, Fix your windows installation with what?
 Sorry, I don't know anything about lightdm
[22:37] <iamwhoiam> k1l: no lightdm
[22:37] <iamwhatsjalsds> thanks for help bye
[22:37] <k1l> !find lightdm
[22:38] <iamwhoiam> k1l: thanx
[22:39] <oday> hi.. i downloaded an .iso file of win 7.. how do i burn it so it would be bootable on a dvd and with what program?
[22:40] <wilee-nilee> oday, What desktop are you using?
[22:41] <k1l> oday: every burning program should do
[22:41] <oday> wilee-nilee, gnome in 12.10
[22:42] <wilee-nilee> oday, Brasero works fine for burning dvds.
[22:42] <oday> wilee-nilee, will it make it bootable?
[22:42] <iamwhoiam> people, i was running qbittorrent and for some reason i cannot close it, ps aux returns it, and killall qbittorrent doesnt do anything.. any suggestions?
[22:43] <wilee-nilee> oday, Burn it as an image yse.
[22:43] <wilee-nilee> yes*
[22:43] <wilee-nilee> oday, This a MS ISO?
[22:44] <oday> wilee-nilee, it's a file Win7Ult-SP1-x64-en-US-Feb2013.iso
[22:44] <oday> i pressed on it and choose write to disc
[22:44] <oday> it's burning now. i hope it will be bootable.
[22:45] <wilee-nilee> oday, Is it a full install dsic or just the sp1/
[22:45] <oday> 4.4gb, i think it's full :D
[22:46] <wilee-nilee> oday, Cool, I hope it is an official ISO is all, anything else is not worth the risk of imbeded badware.
[22:47] <oday> wilee-nilee, it is. my only worry is if it won't be bootable :D i hope brasero will do the job.
[22:47] <Ben64> sounds like piracy
[22:50] <OerHeks> me too, Ben64, those iso's are made to protect from updates.
[22:50] <genii-around> !info gimp quantal
[22:54] <wilee-nilee> oday, your desciption " Win7Ult-SP1-x64-en-US-Feb2013.iso" only brings up pirated downloads. YOu can get a free W8 90 days trial from MS.
[22:54] <grailian> Hola, alguno que entienda de btt?
[22:55] <kielanmatt> hello?
[22:56] <kielanmatt> anyone here?
[22:56] <wilee-nilee> nope
[22:57] <kielanmatt> oh hey, I was wondering if any ubuntu gamers would appreciate my game releasing linux binaries today
[22:57] <wilee-nilee> !ot | kielanmatt
[22:57] <Kion> 32
[22:57] <kielanmatt> ah support I see
[22:57] <kielanmatt> sorrt
[22:58] <oeuvre> hello world. my friend wants to buy a new laptop, but wants to make sure it is 100% compatible with ubuntu, drivers ,etc. more specifically no wifi issues.
[22:58] <oeuvre> he prefers an ultrabook and something under $1500
[22:59] <OerHeks> !hcl
[23:00] <oeuvre> thanks
[23:00] <guideX> how do you read ntfs filesystem from ubuntu 12.10 live cd?
[23:00] <OerHeks> guideX, install ntfs-3g and you can read/write
[23:01] <guideX> thanks
[23:03] <hedkandi> does anyone know about objdump?
[23:04] <hedkandi> how do you get a list of functions and addresses?
[23:05] <OerHeks> hedkandi, objectdump --help or http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/quantal/man1/objdump.1.html
[23:06] <Therion-Dead> hello list,
[23:06] <Therion-Dead> I need your advice to the next stage
[23:07] <Therion-Dead> an ISP network with 200 users
[23:07] <Therion-Dead> I have a pentium core i3, Dual Core + 4 GB ram + Sata + 500 GB HD
[23:07] <Therion-Dead> Squid 3.1.xx + dansguardian + sarg  + Ubuntu 32 Bits
[23:09] <Therion-Dead> I would like to know your opinions about the hardware, if very small,
[23:09] <Therion-Dead> fine or need something bigger
[23:09] <tannji> anyone had a problem with invisible text in google search text-box?  as if the text was white over the white background
[23:09] <Therion-Dead> what equipment do you recommend?
[23:09] <Therion-Dead> thanks
[23:10] <daniel-gnu> hello
[23:10] <daniel-gnu>  i am send admin server
[23:18] <XMLnewbi> just installed phpmyadmin    I went to my ip/phpmyadmin and getting a Not found error
[23:18] <XMLnewbi> apache is working...
[23:24] <lukejt> I used to use an Ubuntu ISO loader on my usb key and now I can't find it.. (you boot the loader via grub, then it lets you scan for and boot ubuntu ISOs) can anyone point me in the right direction?
[23:26] <wilee-nilee> lukejt, Why not just load the ISO to the usb?
[23:27] <wilee-nilee> Or do you mean a multi usb loader is what you used?
[23:27] <lukejt> wilee-nilee: I usually have several Ubuntu images, x86, amd64, alternates etc.
[23:28] <lukejt> the tool was official provided by canonical, was so easy because you could just copy a new iso to the usb then load it without messing with cfgs
[23:28] <wilee-nilee> lukejt, There are single ISO loader for a usb and multiloaders, for example I use one that has W8, and avout 8 other ISO on my usb stick
[23:29] <lukejt> yeah it was a multi loader
[23:29] <lukejt> it scanned the drives for bootable ISOs
[23:30] <sabari> Hi all. Am running ubuntu 12.10 and have an Asus Mother board with AMD Processor in it
[23:30] <wilee-nilee> lukejt, You want one that loads from ubuntu or windows?
[23:30] <sabari> Had a Nvidia card that had a hardware failure and have to connect it to the onboard display which i believe is ATI Radeon
[23:31] <sabari> Now after connecting, the unity bar, Alt+Tab etc are not workinh
[23:31] <sabari> am not able to launch any application or bring it back after minimizing it
[23:32] <lnxslck> how can i tell wich graphic card drivers ubuntu is using?
[23:32] <sabari> only way that i launch is using Gnome-do
[23:32] <Ca103> hey
[23:34] <Scunizi> Kudo's to the upgrade script from 11.10 to 12.04.  This is the first time the upgrade path has worked for me in 6 years. Even while running dual monitors! So nice not to have to re-install / and apps, configurations etc.
[23:35] <tannji> Text is disappearing in my google search box, seem to have narrowed it down to when I have Pitivi video editor running.  does this ring a bell with anyone?
[23:40] <MartynKeigher> hey all. i recently installed ruby on my ubuntu server and it runs on "thin". trying to make thin run on startup. any ideas how i can do this??
[23:41] <MartynKeigher> i DID create the following in an attempt to do this... http://www.treeder.com/2012/03/upstarting-thin-aka-using-upstart-to.html
[23:42] <dxtr_1> Hey
[23:42] <dxtr_1> i have a question
[23:42] <lnxslck> dxtr_1, shoot
[23:43] <MartynKeigher> but when i run service start thin, i get the following msg:  start:unknown job: thin
[23:43] <MartynKeigher> any ideas??
[23:43] <stojic> MartynKeigher: shouldn't it be service thin start ?
[23:44] <MartynKeigher> nope. i get the same msg
[23:44] <dxtr_1> yesterday i was trying to connect a blue-tooth module to UBUNTU , it didin't work i though the problem was the CP210x.C , so i missed around with it a little , now i can't connect my usb-modem
[23:44] <dxtr_1> any suggestions
[23:45] <dxtr_1> ??
[23:47] <foobArrr> printing problem: my printers work for a few pages, then stop printing. the print queue window shows "Printing ...", the kde printer settings panel shows "in use", but nothing happens anymore. after reboot they work again, but only for a few pages. same behavior with two different printers (Brother HL-2030 and Oki B4100), same behavior on a fresh user account. 12.10 64bit
[23:49] <dr_willis> hmmm.
[23:52] <dfx> hello
[23:55] <cuong_t> anyone using system 76 here?
[23:55] <Surakusa> Anyone know how I can replace spaces and any special characters in a string while using head -n 1 something.txt
[23:56] <Surakusa> Basically, I have a txt file that has special characters in the first line. I'm just trying to grab the first line (minus the special characters and spaces).
[23:58] <Surakusa> Let me explain it more specifically, I am trying to grab the first line of text in a text file using "head -n 1 filename.txt" I get the string but some of the text has special characters and spaces... I'm trying to replace the spaces with underscores, and remove any special characters.\
[23:59] <wilee-nilee> cuong_t, There is sytem 76 support at the ubuntu forums, here you just post your problem for help. ;)